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Purpose of the 9/11 Attacks Sheikh Mohammed said that the purpose of the attack on the Twin Towers was to "wake the American people up." Sheikh Mohammed said that if the target would have been strictly military or government, the American people would not focus on the atrocities that America is committing by supporting Israel against the Palestinian people and America's self-serving foreign policy that corrupts Arab governments and leads to further exploitation of the Arab/Muslim peoples.

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"Jones has some sort of problem." Prof. Jones is one of the main culprits, if not the main culprit, spreading the falsehoods and ignorance. His 9/11 paper shows that the man has a problem reasoning or, because it is so extreme, it looks like he is deliberately deceiving people.

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In spite of the years of statements and actions of al-Qaeda, some people reject the evidence and claim that al-Qeada were not the perpetrators or sole perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. The theory that the 9/11 attacks were a conspiracy of the US government itself is simply wrong. Below are good arguments that expose the erroneous theory.

9/11 Motives

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The explosives in the buildings and missile at the Pentagon crap simply is illogical. There is nothing in the events of 9/11 that defied basic physics. The steel was fireproofed, why would it have been fireproofed in the first place if according to your theory fire could not harm it? When the planes crashed the explosion and impact knocked off a great deal of the fireproofing. The steel supports were stressed already because of the structural damage, with the unexpected fires the structural supports gave way and the floors fell. "There were fires located on 15 to 20 different floors. So there was never enough water to arrest the fire to prevent structural instability." "When the plane impacted the building, it severely damaged those exterior columns. The following fire further damaged the support columns. So it was a two step event; initial damage by plane and further damage or subsequent loss of structural stability that caused the building to fail." When these floors fell onto the floor below them they exceeded what that floor could support so it collapsed along with what was on-top of it onto the floor below it. A cascade of floor failures repeated as the building collapsed top down not all floors at once which is how a controlled explosion happens.

Another important point is that WTC 7 was severely damaged and was on fire for hours. Contrary to the claims of 9/11 conspiracy people, WTC 1 did not collapse into its footprint like a controlled explosion. Instead, as the building collapsed, the debris from WTC 1 spilled into the surrounding streets and onto WTC 7 among others, damaging the building. Read the eyewitness accounts and see the diagram Some people think that the Madrid Windsor Tower was not damaged by the fire, this is simply not true. Look at the fact that the steel collums of the Madrid Windsor Tower did indeed collapse.

No one with the bizarre "explosives theory" has explained how the hell these hypothetical explosives would not have been set off by the fires for all the time the fires burned. How the hell would the hypothetical wires and remote controls to these hypothetical fire-resistant explosives withstood the fires? The theory is of such tortured logic I really find it incredible that some people believe it. It is incredible that in spite of the years of statements and actions of al-Qaeda, some people reject the evidence and claim that al-Qeada were not the perpetrators or sole perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. The theory that the 9/11 attacks were a conspiracy of the US government itself is simply wrong.

"Political Research Associates does not criticize conspiracism because we want to shield those with unfair power and privilege; but because we believe that conspiracism impedes attempts to build a social movement for real social justice, economic fairness, equality, peace, and democracy."

The book, "The New Pearl Harbor", is simply not well researched, has factual errors, relies on illogical assumptions and makes it illogical conclusions.

"Griffin’s book reflects a relentless disregard of substantial evidence from multiple sources that contradict the claims he is making. Griffin repeatedly uses classic Fallacies of Logic in his presentation rendering whole sections of the book refutable on this basis alone." Review by Chip Berlet

Refuting the Claims in the Griffin Book: Post 9/11 Conspiracism (Democracy Now folowup)

Post 9/11 Conspiracism

Dubious claims made in the book "The New Pearl Harbor"

Chip Berlet's Review of "The New Pearl Harbor"
The New Pearl Harbor: A Debate On A New Book That Alleges The Bush Administration Was Behind The 9/11 Attacks
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The Gorilla in the Room is US Support for Israel.
Lee Hamilton insults the American people at a "9/11 Public Discourse Project" Q&A. At the August 2, 2005 "public event," Hamilton quickly trys to silence someone who asks why US support for Israel isn't being addressed since it is what drove the plotter of 9/11 to attack us. see transcript


There are serious issues that we should address, like the fact that Bush Lied to the American People about 9/11 Terrorists' Motives. Bush's lie hides from many Americans the fact that we were attacked by Al-Qaeda because of specific foreign polices and not because we are the"brightest beacon of freedom and opportunity"

The man who conceived and directed the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, was motivated by his strong disagreement with American support for Israel

His name is Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and his motivation for the crime of the 9/11 attacks was his objection to the US foreign policy of supporting Israel said the final report of the Sept. 11 Commission.

"After he was captured in Pakistan in early 2003, he told his interrogators that although he had developed no special complaint about America in his years here, he [ Khalid Shaikh Mohammed ] felt strongly that U.S. support of Israel was wrong and could be corrected by attacking the United States,"" reports Los Angeles Times writer Terry McDermott.

"... in an early version of the Sept. 11 plot, he [ Khalid Shaikh Mohammed ] proposed flying one of the hijacked planes himself, landing it in the United States and, after killing all the men aboard, making a speech urging America to change its Middle East policies."

9/11 Motives shared by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the man who thought up the idea and directed the plan for the 9/11 attacks, and Mohamed Atta, the man who was the ring leader of the teams that committed the 9/11 terrorists attacks.

The ring leader of the September 11th suicide hijackers also held the same grievance. Mohamed Atta coordinated the other 9/11 terrorists and he was a pilot who flew into the WTC. Ralph Bodenstein, who traveled, worked and talked a lot with Mohamed Atta, is quoted as describing Mohamed Atta as "most imbued actually about Israeli politics in the region and about US protection of these Israeli politics in the region. And he was to a degree personally suffering from that."

This motive is shared by the terrorists who first attacked the World Trade Center in 1993. The terrorists sent a letter to the New York Times after attacking the WTC, "We declare our responsibility for the explosion on the mentioned building. This action was done in response for the American political, economical, and military support to Israel the state of terrorism and to the rest of the dictator countries in the region."

That 1993 attack was led by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed's nephew, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef. Inspired by the 1993 attack on the Twin Towers, Mohammed later allied with Ramzi Ahmed Yousef "in a plan to blow up as many as a dozen American airliners over the Pacific Ocean." 1 That plan was never successfully executed but Mohammed then conceived of using Airliners to attack targets in the US. "It was then that he sought to interest Bin Laden in an operation to attack the United States from the air." 2

"Bin Laden approved funding for Mohammed's plot in late 1998 or early 1999." "In an early version of the Sept. 11 plot, Mohammed proposed flying one of the hijacked planes himself, landing it in the United States and, after killing all the men aboard, making a speech urging America to change its Middle East policies. Bin Laden eliminated that flourish from the attack plan." 3 Bin Laden no doubt assumed that the public declarations of war that he made more than once demanding that America change its Middle East policies had made it crystal clear why the attacks were being made.

"It should not be hidden from you that the people of Islam had suffered from aggression, iniquity and injustice imposed on them by the Zionist-Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the extent that the Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq." - The 1996 Fatwa entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places."

The 1998 Fatwa was signed by Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and others. It lists three grievances:
1. U.S. occupation of the Arabian Peninsula.
2. U.S. aggression against the Iraqi people.
3. U.S. support of Israel.

Your position against Muslims in Palestine is despicable and disgraceful. America has no shame. ... We believe that the worst thieves in the world today and the worst terrorists are the Americans. Nothing could stop you except perhaps retaliation in kind. We do not have to differentiate between military or civilian. As far as we are concerned, they are all targets, and this is what the fatwah says ... . The fatwah is general (comprehensive) and it includes all those who participate in, or help the Jewish occupiers in killing Muslims. " - Osama bin Laden May 1998

"For over half a century, Muslims in Palestine have been slaughtered and assaulted and robbed of their honor and of their property. Their houses have been blasted, their crops destroyed." - Osama bin Laden May 1998

"The International Islamic Front for Jihad against the U.S. and Israel has issued a crystal-clear fatwa calling on the Islamic nation to carry on jihad aimed at liberating holy sites. The nation of Muhammad has responded to this appeal. If the instigation for jihad against the Jews and the Americans in order to liberate Al-Aksa Mosque and the Holy Ka'aba Islamic shrines in the Middle East is considered a crime, then let history be a witness that I am a criminal." - Osama bin Laden May 1999

After the 9/11 attack, bin Laden once again made a statement to make the motive clear: "We swore that America wouldn't live in security until we live it truly in Palestine. This showed the reality of America, which puts Israel's interest above its own people's interest. America won't get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula , and until it stops its support of Israel." -Osama bin Laden, October 2001

Bin Laden had underestimated the power of special interests to deceive large numbers of the America public about why the US was being attacked. After the lies that Bush and others told about why America was being attacked, bin Laden once again made an attempt to make the motives clear by pointing out that Bush is hiding the truth: "... the Mujahideen saw the black gang of thugs in the White House hiding the Truth, and their stupid and foolish leader, who is elected and supported by his people, denying reality and proclaiming that we (the Mujahideen) were striking them because we were jealous of them (the Americans), whereas the reality is that we are striking them because of their evil and injustice in the whole of the Islamic World, especially in Iraq and Palestine and their occupation of the Land of the Two Holy Sanctuaries." -Osama Bin Laden , February 14 , 2003

" ... in 1995 , the explosion in Riyadh took place, killing four Americans, in a clear message from the people of that region displaying their rejection and opposition to the American policy of bankrolling the Jews and occupying the Land of the Two Holy Sanctuaries. The following year, another explosion in Al-Khobar killed 19 Americans and wounded more than 400 of them, prompting them to move their bases from the cities to the desert . Then in 1998 , the Mujahideen warned America to cease their support to the Jews and to leave the Land of the Two Holy Sanctuaries, but the enemy refused to heed this warning, so the Mujahideen, with the ability from Allah , smashed them with two mighty smashes in East Africa . Then again America was warned, but she refused to pay attention to the warnings, so the Mujahideen destroyed the American Destroyer, the USS Cole, in Aden, in a martyrdom operation, striking a solid blow to the face of the American military and at the same time, exposing the Yemeni Government as American agents, similar to all the countries in the region." -Osama bin Laden February 14, 2003

It is also the same motive that Mir Aimal Kasi had for killing CIA employees Frank Darling and Lansing Bennett outside CIA headquarters in Langley,Virginia in 1993 . Mir Aimal Kasi said, "What I did was a retaliation against the US government for American policy in the Middle East and its support of Israel ." Mir Aimal Kasi once professed a love for this country, his uncle testified. "He always say that 'I like America, I love America and I want to go there,'" Amanullah Kasi said at a sentencing hearing for his nephew, Mir Aimal Kasi . Kasi's roommate, who had reported him missing after the shootings, told police that Kasi would get incensed watching CNN when he heard how Muslims were being treated. After the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Kasi said he did not approve of the attack on the World Trade Center because innocent were killed. He understood, however, the attack on the Pentagon, the symbol of government might.

1 New Plot Details Emerge, By Terry McDermott, Los Angeles Times July 23, 2004
2 Ibid.
3 Ibid.

Bush lied about "why they hate us" ( why were we attacked on September 11th )

Representative Press archive What Osama bin Laden, Mohammed Atta, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and others want has been made crystal clear. "When someone asked why he and Atta never laughed, Shehhi retorted, 'How can you laugh when people are dying in Palestine?'" * Abdulaziz Alomari, one of the hijackers aboard Flight 11 with Mohammed Atta, said in his video will, "My work is a message those who heard me and to all those who saw me at the same time it is a message to the infidels that you should leave the Arabian peninsula defeated and stop giving a hand of help to the coward Jews in Palestine."
* Ahmed Al Haznawi, a hijacker aboard Flight 93, said in his video will, "Here is Palestine for more than a half-century, its wound has continued to bleed." The US has supported outrageous crimes against the people in the Middle East. Bush and others are lying about why we were attacked. When Tenet and others quote the 1998 Fatwa they omit the key part in order to suppress the motives" THIS PART: "in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim." That is the motives OK? NOT "in order to establish an "Islamic world"". LOOK at the fact that US officials omit the part of the sentence that mentions motives, they are manipulating the American public because they serve agendas that don't want to change the policies in the Middle East. What do Jihadists say to recruit others? They don't say "do you want to set up an "Islamic world?"" what they say is "do you want to do something about the injustices that America has caused?" Look:

A former member of an extremist Islamic organization which is part of al-Qaeda explained how the organization's recruiters operate on susceptible young men. "Someone approached me in the mosque as I was praying, and started to talk to me about injustice in the Middle East, the poverty, our impotence in the face of Israel. He made me want to listen to him - to find a solution. At first these people don't talk about violence. They concentrate on how much injustice America has caused in the world and how to get rid of this unfairness. They mention Palestine, they call on you to uphold your national dignity, to defend people, and suggest for that you must sacrifice yourself. Then your people will live after you and will always remember you." The young man, himself an Egyptian, speaking in the privacy of a quite courtyard in Cairo, believed this was the way Mohamed Atta was approached. "Al-Qaeda" by Jane Corbin p125

There are people with power serving special interests who want the forign policies unchallanged so they decieve the public about why they are being attacked. For example see George Tenet's sick game.

Someone wrote on the Internet, "When did Osama bin Laden ever live in Palestine? And why should we believe he speaks for the Palestinians? "

Abdallah Azzam was born in Palestine and he was an "early spiritual mentor" of Osama bin Laden. (see page 2 of "Al-Qaeda" by Jason Burke ) Stop trying to fool the public about why we are being attacked. Your "reasoning" is obviously to serve Israel.

There is no evidence that bin Laden isn't actually angered by the specific foreign policies he complains about.

It is extremely unlikely that bin Laden didn't actually object to the specific foreign policies that he complains about, millions and millions of other people object to the same policies, by what "logic" would it be that bin Laden would be in the extremely small minority that "doesn't care" about the policies or thinks they are fine?

There is no logical reason to think bin Laden was not in agreement with an "early spiritual mentor", Abdallah Azzam, about Palestine. See It is extremely unlikely that bin Laden didn't actually object to the specific foreign policies that he complains about

The threat we face can be removed if we look at the situation honestly and fix what is wrong. or that page here

The Roots of Violence in the Middle East: Israel and the Palestinians

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