Junkers Ju85 and K85
(two designs under that designator)
1. bomber aircraft, projected in 1937/39, similar to Ju88, not built
2. torpedo bomber, projected by AB Flygindustri in 1933/34, not built

Junkers Ju85 Windchannel Model

Historical Data:

Several sources reference a Junkers Ju85 design, also the RLM Type Allocator List did so. However, the correct allocation of this designator is not ensured today. The designator Ju85 is used in connection with a parallel design to the Junkers Ju88, which was started in 1938. A major lack of the Ju88 was the single tail unit, which disturbed the utilization of machine guns to the back. Therefore the "Ju85" was equipped with a double tail unit. Two different versions are mentioned in literature today. The Ju85A was a direct derivate of the Ju88V-3. This version just solved the problem of the backwards oriented machine guns. A second version is mentioned as the Ju85B, which also got a new forward glazed canopy. It is reported, that wind channel models and mockups were built until 1939, when the project was stopped and the developement returend to the single tailed Ju88.

As mentioned, it is not ensured, that this design was designated Ju85. It may also have been a developement study within the Ju88 developement programme. Another possibility is, that the Ju85 is predesign of the later Junkers Ju86, which was also equipped with a double tail unit and which followed in the designator chronology.

Swedish Torpedo Bomber Design K85 of AB Flygindustri

At least a Junkers K85 design is known, which was a derivate of the Ju86. This K85 was developed on a demand of the Swedish Air Force for a torpedo bomber. The aircraft was designed as a seaplane with floaters and two engines. The Wings and fuselage showed the same dimensions than the Ju86 design. It was developed in competition to the Heinkel He115 and the British Handley-Page Hampden. The aircraft was offered through AB Flygindustri in Limhamn during 1933. Finally Sweden decided to take the Heinkel He115 and the Junkers project was dropped.

However the utilization of the K85 designator in connection with the Ju85 or Ju86 designs is not a standard convention of Junkers designators, as K-designators were used with swapped numbers of the original design. This would have been the Junkers J58 passenger airliner design. Nevertheless, the K85 was published in a Swedish newspaper during the 30s and the design was very familiar with the Ju86 design.

Technical Data:
Aircraft year engine length
in m
in m
wing area
im sqm
net weight
in kg
in kg
seats speed
in km/h
in km
Ju85 n.a. 2 x Jumo 211A or B 14,35 18,25 n.a. n.a. n.a. n.a. n.a. n.a.

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