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replies to SFX on October 25, 2004
at 01:56:00 RandauRuai


Why do you think Tajem is an arrogant person ?
> and why do you think he's not?
> he knew what coming
> he knew what’s going to happen to PBDS
if they don't hold TDC
> he knew what’s good for the Dayak community
> but he still insist on doing it his way
> as the result, the party entrusted to him
is now dead, such a great lost to the Dayaks
> now you want to go to the court of law, Tajem?!
> oh please! I thought we had enough of you

Before you answer that question, would you be so kind as to explain who was the then President of the now deregistered PBDS ?
> exactly, the 'then president of the
now deregistered PBDS'
> why take pride in something that is obsolete
> knowing very well you're the PBDS killer

Could you explain what his authority is within the party ? Could you explain what authority means ?
> his authority?
> he was only the caretaker!
> his job was to hold a TDC
> the Bintulu TDC and Santubong TDC not recognised
> meaning he needs to hold another one
> he didn't do his job

> he cannot sack people from the party
(by right, he can only sack Josephine Mawat)
> but that's the thing that kept him pre-occupied
> sacking people he doesn't like
> wasn't that an act of a dictator?
> is that the kind of ‘authority’ the Dayaks want?

What makes you think our leader should give way to a minor Baron from Balleh ? I say this with respect to Balleh Ibans known for their ferocity.
> our leader?
> count how many MPs and State Assemblymen
you have in your camp
> we don't count the illegal PBDS branches set up overnight

> a minor Baron?
> now that's the problem with you, Tajem
> being arrogant, you underestimate people
> that was the same minor Baron who beats you in your game
> why? he's no lawyer
but he can speak articulately
> he can find the right league of friends
> he understands the system
> and identifies all the loopholes
> your political direction maybe
the better one for the Dayaks, so you think
> but look at what you have done now
> where's the PBDS?
> your approaches failed you, Tajem,
and the rest of the Dayaks
> shame on you, Mr ex-President!

What makes you think that gives an absolute right to Sng Chee Hua and Jemut Masing to break up PBDS because they can't have their perverted ways ?
> again, why do think it was them who started the break up?
> it was your mentor Leo Moggie who cultured greed in you
> the initial agreement was for you to become the next president
> and Masing the deputy
> you didn’t honour the Miri Formula and picks Salang instead
> being arrogant again, you ignored the sensitivity of others
> speaking of respect, SFX, go teach Tajem some ‘respects’
> you do us a lot of favour if you spank him

One is a chinese gangster gambler and the other a playboy wannabe CM.
> Sng the gambler, yes
> now he cannot go sabung ayam in Miri after
> OCPD Ambrose Chung retires from the force
> who’s idea was it to have the Chinese in the PBDS
> and amended the constitution to allow such move
> wasn’t it the collective agreement of the PBDS leaders
> who was then led by Moggie?
> now the same Moggie passed on his ideology to Tajem
> Tajem and Sng used to be in the same camp
> when the fight was against Masing

> now the question is, who befriends the ‘gangster’ first

> playboy wannabe CM?
> is that a crime?

What makes you think Tok Uban can pick whomsoever he wishes in PBDS to form his government, regardless of our committees and flying in the face of other Iban, Kayan, and Bidayuh PBDS leaders ? I call that a lack of respect to dayaks in general. What would you call that ?
> I say that’s disrespect too

Bear in mind DT's position in the Iban communities in Sarawak and those in Kapuas. We maybe divided, punggal, but we're all Ibans. And we have allies as well.
> I know
> but you must know too, the Ibans are united
> if the fight is against the non-Ibans
> when it comes to making a choice between two Ibans
> they go for the better Iban, in this case it is Masing
> Tajem lost his credibility in total
> when the PBDS he was leading was deregistered

So, trying to follow your logic, if Tajem is arrogant, what are the others ? Angels ? Saints ? Demigods ? Idols we should worship ? Are you trying to tell me that Sarawakians should have no brains and no voice ?Is that the impression you wish to convey to all Malaysians and the world ?
> Tajem is arrogant, period
> the others are survivors
> in this Sarawak Politics, where Dayak slaughters Dayak
> the one with sharper mind gets to live on
> we need a good leader to behave all the Dayaks
> to inspire us to survive in this Country, in which
we suddenly become the minority when Sarawak
merged with the Peninsular M’sia in 1963
> until we found one great Dayak leader,
(not necessarily Masing, but definitely not Tajem)
> don’t you think we should lay low and reorganise?
> rather than making demand this early
> PBDS was the symbol of Dayak unity
the council, the fellowship of the Dayaks, our voice
> until Tajem comes along and starts his sort of ‘mutiny’
> Now where’s PBDS?
> what happen to Salang, Bato’, Adit, Gerang, and Dagang?
> what will happen to us?
> Sarawakians have brains
> only Tajem doesn’t
> and you can follow him
> Tajem is history, he reminds me of that toilet paper
with slogan ‘Stronger, Thicker and Use Less’

awaiting your reply.
> you got it

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SFX      

In Reply to : Re: Allright (salvaged from deleted posts below) posted by James ak Bond replies to SFX on October 25, 2004 at 01:56:00:

I am not going to change your mind about politics.The manner in which you perceive how the game is played out is also dubious. You have your reasons for supporting Sng Chee Hwa and James Masing. That's fine. For now I am not interested in haranguing you anymore. It's clear you seem to think highly of a certain White Hair and "his league of friends". However, JJM and Sng Chee Bye will never go near the office of the Chief Minister. Both are too old, and only good enough for the coming election, which I predict, would be a PBB Melanau victory....hands down, given the grovelling support from certain quarters. There is no "new generation" worthy enough in PRS to take on your cause...ooooppss unless you're counting on Larry. Which I hope for you is otherwise.

Now if you don't mind, I'll pick through your comments;

1. "why take pride in something that is obsolete knowing very well you're the PBDS killer"
Some 130,000 voters in Sarawak will take pride in something obsolete.

2."now you want to go to the court of law, Tajem?!
> oh please! I thought we had enough of you"
Yes, you did have enough of us. That's why you're in PRS now. I wish you well. And another thing, appealing against the decision of the Secretary of State for the Home department and the (RoS), by putting in an application for judicial review, is democratic. I would say some 130,000 disenfranchised voters would agree.

3. "he was only the caretaker!
> his job was to hold a TDC
> the Bintulu TDC and Santubong TDC not recognised
> meaning he needs to hold another one
> he didn't do his job
> he cannot sack people from the party"
The TDC held by JJM was deemed to be illegal by the RoS, subsequently laying the grounds for the initial deregistration. An Information Chief in PBDS does not have the authority to call his own TDC. I am pleased that you have insulted PBDS members in this manner.

4." count how many MPs and State Assemblymen
you have in your camp
> we don't count the illegal PBDS branches set up overnight
> a minor Baron? "
That's fine. It's allright if members and MP's choose to dissent and express their concerns. We'll ignore the chickenshit "scare tactics" you guys used in openly canvassing your support amongst respected members in the organisation, whom by the way, your people extended the same courtesy, as you did to me.

5. "again, why do think it was them who started the break up?
> it was your mentor Leo Moggie who cultured greed in you
> the initial agreement was for you to become the next president
> and Masing the deputy"
Allright, blame poor old Leo. It's his fault we're in this mess. It's because of Leo and Tajem that people as close to perfection as JJM and his friends chose to "rock the boat". Your camp is entirely innocent and next to godliness in this respect. Poor Sng. Am I right ?

6. "now the question is, who befriends the ‘gangster’ first"
How sad it's come to this. It's a tragedy to see someone as clever as you acknowledge what a saintly man a gangster is ? 20 years of education, love and support to produce this sort of thinking ? I am hurt with disappointment.

7."when it comes to making a choice between two Ibans
> they go for the better Iban, in this case it is Masing
> Tajem lost his credibility in total
> when the PBDS he was leading was deregistered"
yes Masing is a cunning leader, but has he outplayed his hand, by cutting off the 130,000 hands that nurtured and followed him ? Now he has all that work to do in rebuilding his "credibility".

8. "Tajem comes along and starts his sort of ‘mutiny’
> Now where’s PBDS?
> what happen to Salang, Bato’, Adit, Gerang, and Dagang?
> what will happen to us?"
Where have I heard this before ? It's up to you to decide your future. Better work hard at it. The Melanaus have speedboats and all you have is a sampan. With a sampan you can get far ? right ? The great PRS sampan.

"Sarawakians have brains
> only Tajem doesn’t
> and you can follow him"
Yes we all know that. Thanks for bestowing this on to us. Anything the White Hair and his friends say. no problem.

Thanks for the discussion.
SFX
OO7

Interesting points from your post
And what I think about it (in bracket):

1. Some 130,000 voters in Sarawak will take pride in something obsolete. (Disagree)
2. Appealing against the decision of the Secretary of State for the Home department and the (RoS), by putting in an application for judicial review, is democratic. (Agree)
3. The TDC held by JJM was deemed to be illegal by the RoS, subsequently laying the grounds for the initial deregistration. (Disagree)
4. An Information Chief in PBDS does not have the authority to call his own TDC. (Agree)
5. I am pleased that you have insulted PBDS members in this manner. (Disagree)
6. Allright, blame poor old Leo. It's his fault we're in this mess. (Agree)
7. yes Masing is a cunning leader (Agree).
8. Now he has all that work to do in rebuilding his "credibility" (Disagree).
9. It's up to you to decide your future (Agree).
10. Better work hard at it. The Melanaus have speedboats and all you have is a
sampan. With a sampan you can get far ? right ? The great PRS sampan. (Agree)
11. It's a tragedy(?) to see someone as clever as you (Agree) acknowledge what a saintly man a gangster is (Disagree)? 20 years of education (Agree), love and support to produce this sort of thinking? I am hurt (Agree)with disappointment. (Disagree)

you see, SFX (stands for Sad Fellow Xpectation???)
I can agree and disagree with you
but let me clarify one matter here
I see you treat me like I was from the Masing’s camp
Sorry, pal, am 27-year-old Sarawakian
who doesn’t commit to any party
(Not yet, maybe after your so called ‘White Hair’ resigns politics, for good)

We can talk about PBDS all day
but it won’t bring the party back to life
and the topic itself is boring now
Agree?

But there's still few things we need to do
As in post mortem by a coroner,
my scissor is pointing at Tajem’s stomach
I want to know what’s wrong with this Iban
I want to study him, not from the Political aspect
But from the Moral aspect - Why he’s so arrogant?

Being a Dayak I am, not necessarily Kelabit,
I am truly disappointed with him
he’s a Dayak president (at least that what his temporary title says)
he has within his authority
the power to stop PBDS from being deregistered
I’d scream to him ‘just hold the fucking TDC, fool!
‘Do it untuk penuhi syarat’
‘Don’t give them good excuse to kill PBDS’
am sure many other people said the same thing to him
but Tajem, being arrogant, didn’t hold the TDC
as the result of that, PBDS is deregistered
A Dayak-based political party is dead
(is this how we Malaysians resolve crises in political party?
I think the system is alright, it’s the human that go wrong)
Tajem refuses to hold the TDC
for fear that he’d lose the presidency??
and subsequently forced to pass the helm to Masing and gang???
- but that’s all personal interest on his part

Nevermind whatever the problems which led to the call for TDC but that Oct 9 and 10 draw the bottom line
it’s a crucial point for PBDS, do it or die, as simple as that

If he’s a true dayak leader, he should think far and beyond and hold the TDC anyway in the faith that PBDS can continue to provide a strong platform
for the next generation of Dayak leaders to champion the course of fellow Dayaks

That days-old PRS is just so young
it does not have significant value
in Sarawak political history

I know we Dayaks are getting somewhere in Sarawak politics
But remember the words written by an English writer during Brooke’s era
‘Only Dyak can kill Dyak’
In this country where we suddenly become a minority since 1963
we can’t afford to continue killing each other anymore

Now let me ask you this question, SFX
So we’re very clear about your stand in this matter
You love PBDS or just Tajem?

… to continue with our understanding of matters:
my comment (in brackets)

I am not going to change your mind about politics. (Agree)The manner in which you perceive how the game is played out is also dubious. (Not anymore, I hope) You have your reasons for supporting Sng Chee Hwa and James Masing. (No comment) That's fine. For now I am not interested in haranguing you anymore. (Good!) It's clear you seem to think highly of a certain White Hair and "his league of friends". (Disagree) However, JJM and Sng Chee Bye will never go near the office of the Chief Minister. (Agree) Both are too old, and only good enough for the coming election, which I predict, would be a PBB Melanau victory....hands down, given the grovelling support from certain quarters. (We’ll see) There is no "new generation" worthy enough in PRS to take on your cause (Agree)...ooooppss unless you're counting on Larry. Which I hope for you is otherwise. (Agree)

Thanks for the discussion. (Like wise)
SFX (I know)
Now let me ask you this question, SFX, so we’re very clear about your stand in this matter... You love PBDS or just Tajem?
- J@mes anak Bond
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J@mes anak Bond is not necessarily someone who has indepth knowledge about PBDS the political party. He's not even a member of any political parties in the country. But there's something he find very interesting about PBDS, apart from the fact that the PBDS is deregistered twice within a space of 11 months, and that is how the PBDS had suffered this ending despite the fact that it could have been saved. The day when poster SFX responded to his post about "Tajem being the arrogant bastard" Anak Bond knew he could use this stranger to get indepth understanding of the crisis, hence the beginning of the 'interogation'.
PRS

February 01, 2005 at 08:01:35:
In Randau Ruai

BN Sarawak selamat lahirkan anak bongsu
LAPORAN KHAS

Walaupun Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi meyakinkan anggota Parti Bansa Dayak Sarawak (PBDS) yang beliau akan cuba untuk menyelamatkan parti itu, namun janji Pak Lah cuma tinggal janji apabila parti itu berkubur juga pada tanggal 21 Oktober 2004.

Sebaik sahaja PBDS dikuburkan, maka lahirlah Parti Rakyat Sarawak (PRS), pada hari yang sama. Tanggal 5 Januari 2005, kesemua 50 cawangan PRS disahkan oleh Pendaftar Pertubuhan (ROS). Maka tanggal 23 Januari 2005, PRS bermesyuarat buat julung kali dan cuma menunggu saat dan ketika untuk bernaung dalam BN pusat. Sokongan padu BN Sarawak jelas dengan kehadiran semua pucuk pimpinan parti BN komponen negeri diketuai sendiri oleh Tan Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud yang merasmikan mesyuarat terbabit.

Perpecahan buat kesekian kali

Kumpulan yang bertelagah dalam PBDS berpecah dua. Kumpulan pimpinan Dato Seri Daniel Tajem mulanya cuba hendak menghidupkan semula PBDS. Beliau disokong oleh lima Yang Berhormat, Datuk Joseph Salang - Timbalan Menteri Luar, Jawang Gerang - Ahli Parlimen Lubok Antu, Aaron Dagang - Ahli Parlimen Kanowit, Gabriel Adit - ADUN Ngemah dan Stanley Ajang - ADUN Belaga.

Lawannya, Dato Seri James Masing - Menteri Pembangunan Tanah Sarawak, pula disokong oleh Joseph Entulu - Timbalan Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri, Jimmy Donald - Ahli Parlimen Sri Aman, Billy Abit Joo - Ahli Parlimen Hulu Rejang, Larry Sng - Menteri Muda Perindustrian Sarawak, Dublin Unting - Menteri Muda Pelancongan, John Sikie Tayai - ADUN Kakus, Mong Dagang - ADUN Bukit Begunan - pula menyertai PRS sehari selepas PBDS dibatalkan.

Kini parti itu sah sudah menjadi ahli keluarga BN Sarawak, dan hanya menunggu formaliti untuk diserap ke dalam BN pusat.

Keahlian memberangsangkan

Setakat ini PRS sudah mempunyai kira-kira 25,000 orang ahli berdaftar, dan masih banyak lagi yang sedang diproses. Selain masyarakat Dayak dan Cina, terdapat juga ahli-ahli Melayu dalam PRS. Ia menjadikannya sebuah parti yang tidak bersifat perkauman - walaupun pada dasarnya ke semua kawasan PRS adalah majoriti penduduk Dayak.

Memandangkan PRS mempunyai sumber kewangan yang kukuh dengan adanya sokongan kuat daripada pucuk pimpinan negeri serta ahli perniagaan terkenal Dato Sng Chee Hua, usaha mendaftarkan ahli baru bukanlah isu yang besar. Malahan ada pemimpin parti SUPP yang tersinggung apabila pemimpin akar umbi mereka seperti yang berlaku di Kapit memilih untuk menyertai PRS. Begitu juga parti SPDP pimpinan Datuk William Mawan yang berkali-kali mengingatkan PRS supaya jangan memancing ahli parti mereka.

Namun, populariti serta peluang yang dijanjikan oleh PRS kepada politikus opportunis yang sentiasa menghidu peluang menyaksikan begitu ramai orang Melayu dari kawasan Satok berhimpit-himpit memasuki PRS walaupun pada dasarnya PRS ialah parti Dayak.

Bersifat liberal

Jika hendak diperhalusi, pemimpin-pemimpin PRS bermula dengan Presiden - Dato Seri Dr James Masing, timbalan presiden - Dato Sng Chee Hua, Setiausaha Agung - Sidi Munan, Timbalan Setiausaha Agung - Larry Sng, Naib Presiden - Jimmy Donald, John Sikie Tayai, Billy Abit Joo, Joseph Entulu Belaun dan Dublin Unting, - merupakan ahli politik Dayak serta Cina yang sudah mencipta nama di Sarawak. Ia cumalah seperti menerbitkan semula sebuah buku lama dengan judul yang baru.

Kumpulan ini bolehlah diperkatakan sebagai ahli politik yang bersifat liberal serta menerima ketuanan kaum Melayu/Melanau yang cuma membentuk kira-kira 18 peratus dalam konsep perkongsian kuasa BN.

Mereka ditentang oleh kumpulan radikal yang mahukan kekuasaan Sarawak dikembalikan kepada masyarakat Dayak sepertimana yang berlaku di awal pembentukan serta kemerdekaan Sarawak yang menyaksikan Sarawak di pimpin oleh Tan Sri Stephen Kalong Ningkan dan Datuk Tawi Sli. Namun, sesudah mereka, Sarawak dipimpin oleh kaum Melanau bermula dengan Tun Abdul Rahman Ya'kub, sebelum diteruskan oleh Tan Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud, yang sudah menjadi Ketua Menteri Sarawak selama 24 tahun - lebih dari separuh usia kemerdekaan Sarawak.

Titik damai

Walaupun ketegangan yang berlaku di dalam PBDS tidak dapat dikendurkan lagi sehingga parti itu terpaksa dibatalkan pendaftaranya buat kali kedua pada 22 Oktober 2004, kini usaha sedang dijalankan bagi meyakinkan kumpulan lima pemimpin yang masih tidak berparti untuk menyertai PRS.

Sumber terdekat dengan PRS yakin isu itu dapat diselesikan jika Datuk Joseph Salang berjaya dipujuk untuk menjadi Timbalan Presiden, namun bergantung dengan kesediaan Dato Sng untuk memberikan laluan. Mereka yakin tawar-menawar masih berlaku, lebih-lebih lagi Dato Sng sudah berjaya menempatkan anaknya Larry yang baru berusia 23 tahun dalam kabinet Sarawak. Perlantikan anaknya itu bukan sahaja rekod baru di Sarawak, malahan memecahkan rekod yang dipegang oleh Taib sendiri yang sebelum ini menjadi ahli kabinet termuda ketika berusia 27 tahun.

Selaku ahli perniagaan yang cukup mahir dalam selok-belok perdagangan, sepak-terajang politik masyarakat Dayak bukanlah suatu isu yang besar bagi Sng. Ketika pemilihan parti itu dalam tahun 2000, beliau memastikan kemenangan Tajem yang ketika itu dicabar oleh Masing. Kali ini, dia memenangkan Masing dengan cara yang lebih komplikated, walaupun pada suatu ketika Tajem dan ahli kumpulannya seakan-akan sudah menang.

Dayakisme

Bagi penganalisis politik tempatan, apa yang berlaku dalam PBDS dan terdahulu dari itu SNAP, hanyalah rentetan dari usaha sesetengah pihak untuk mengapi-apikan semangat Dayakisme. Ura-ura begitu kencang bertiup lewat tahun 2002 yang SNAP dan PBDS bakal bergabung. Namun ia hanya tinggal ura-ura. Lagipun, PBDS ialah kumpulan serpihan SNAP yang memberontak setelah pemilihan parti pada tahun 1983 yang menyaksikan pengasas PBDS Datuk Amar Leo Moggie gagal merampas kerusi presiden dari tangan Datuk Amar James Wong.

Kumpulan pro-Dayakisme beranggapan bertuankan presiden Cina merupakan suatu yang tidak dapat diterima memandangkan SNAP merupakan parti berasaskan masyarakat Dayak yang melahirkan Ketua Menteri pertama Tan Sri Kalong Ningkan. Mereka kemudiannya menubuhkan PBDS, namun bagaikan meludah ke langit mereka mengulangi kesilapan yang sama apabila membawa Dato Sng masuk. Kemasukan Sng bukannya sekadar menjadi ADUN atau Ahli Parlimen, sebaliknya memegang tali pacu halatuju parti dengan sumber kewangan serta jentera perniagaan parti.

Memandangkan pemimpin PBDS tidak punya latar belakang ekonomi yang kukuh, mereka terdedah kepada kebergantungan kepada Sng. Politik di Sarawak memerlukan sumber kewangan yang mantap. Sebab itulah hampir semua parti politik di Sarawak menadah tangan kepada PBB selain SUPP. Maka agenda Dayakisme dengan mudah terkubur begitu sahaja bersama idealisme radikal yang sukar untuk diterima masyarakat bukan Dayak memandangkan jentera politik orang Dayak sendiri gagal menunjukkan ciri atau nilai yang mantap.

Politik rumah panjang

Malahan budaya serta kecenderungan untuk cantas-mencantas di kalangan pemimpin-pemimpin PBDS membuatkan mereka sentiasa bercakaran. Walaupun hari ini mereka duduk bersama serta memberitahu rakyat kami kawan, esoknya perang media meletus menceritakan perkara sebaliknya.

Keinginan untuk memimpin serta keengganan untuk menerima pertuanan sesama sendiri bukanlah budaya baru. Masyarakat Iban khususnya, sentiasa dihantui oleh elemen-elemen perebutan kuasa di peringkat akar umbi. Insiden perpecahan rumah panjang berikutan keinginan untuk menjadi Tuai Rumah sering dijadikan kayu pengukur politik masyarakat Iban.

Apabila berlaku pertelingkahan atau perebutan kuasa, pihak yang tidak mendapat sokongan atau restu orang tua akan mendirikan rumah baru, bersama-sama penyokong mereka.

Maka lahirlah begitu banyak organisasi politik dalam masa yang begitu singkat di Sarawak, kebanyakannya dipelopori oleh pemimpin-pemimpin Dayak seperti PBDS, STAR, SPDP, PRS dan sebagainya. Kalau ada pun yang berlaku di kalangan masyarakat Melayu/Melanau kebanyakan daripadanya hanyalah 'political manouvre' untuk mengenalpasti kumpulan penentang seperti Pajar serta Permas, yang menyaksikan ancaman kepada kerjaya Abdul Taib Mahmud dipadamkan secara sistematik.

Kini terpulanglah kepada pimpinan PRS untuk membuktikan mereka bebas dari badi rumah panjang yang pernah menghantui PBDS.

Pilihan raya negeri

Namun, yang pasti pilihan raya negeri kali ini bergantung kepada congakan ekonomi serta politik yang lebih universal di kalangan masyarakat Dayak sendiri. Jika kumpulan Tajem, Datuk Amar Leonard Linggi, bekas setiausaha agung PBB serta pimpinan SNAP, memilih untuk memerangi BN secara terbuka, insiden yang berlaku dalam tahun 1987 pasti berlaku lagi. Masyarakat Dayak akan berpecah-belah, rumah panjang terbahagi dua, saudara-mara berkerat arang, gara-gara usaha untuk memenangi tampuk kekuasaan di Sarawak.

Langkah-langkah yang diatur oleh kumpulan Linggi secara cukup sistematik serta berprofil tinggi mungkin memakan diri kerana sikap extremisme sesetengah golongan professional Dayak hanya akan membuatkan mereka dibenci oleh ahli masyarakat lain.

Setakat ini, Linggi sudah menubuhkan Persatuan Graduan Dayak Sarawak serta Dewan Perniagaan dan Ekonomi Dayak Sarawak dalam usaha memacu segala sumber profesional Dayak ke arah meletakkan Sarawak di bawah pimpinan Dayak serta mengeluarkannya dari naungan golongan Melayu/Melanau Islam.

Jambang yang menghiasi muka Abdul Taib Mahmud seolah-olah menggambarkan bahawa pilihan raya negeri bakal dijalankan bila-bila masa sahaja lagi, lebih-lebih lagi pengumuman proses persempadanan semula yang dibuat baru-baru ini.

Persoalanya sekarang ialah mampukah PRS mengapungkan dirinya seperti yang dibuktikan oleh SPDP dalam menongkah arus Dayakisme yang semakin terbakar dalam lautan api ketidakpuasanhati?
JACK/ ROMIE

February 01, 2005 at 08:58:15:
in RandauRuai (reply to PRS)

CERTAINLY YOU FAILED IN BOTH YOUR MALAYSIAN AND WORLD HISTORY PAL.
AND YOU MAKE VERY LOUSY POLITICIAN AND
TACTICIAN.

ONCE I SUPPORTED PRS AND THE LEADERSHIP, BUT THE RESULT OF THE RECENT 'TDC' MADE
STUPID FOOLS OF EVERYONE IN THERE. CANT YOU ALL SEE THAT ITS MERELY A COVERT TACTICAL MOVE TO HIDE THE ULTIMATE VISION OF THE PARTY'S MASTER PUPPETEER? YOU SAY THAT BEING RACIALLY BASED IS NOT RELEVANT.
- BUT WERE ARE LIVING IN A DEMOCRACY WITH MONARCHY. CANT YOU SEE THAT WE ARE
NOT A REPUBLIC COUNTRY! AND WHAT ARE UMNO, MIC, MCA, PBB, PBS FIGHTING FOR ANYWAY.

SO ITS RELEVANT. WE JUST NEED TO ERASE
THE SHARKS.

WE WILL KNOW ME
Explorer

Jan 27, 2005 3:53pm, in RP.com  
(Replying to same subject)

PRS??????......parti nadai masa depan.....lebih ngagai parti sida family SNG sebilik....yang lain2 nampung burit nyium kentot aja lah...atau menentukan tahap kemasinan kentot aja...hal ka penting dalam parti PRS sorry lah for dayak...babai aja..pulai kampung nanam lada,padi,koko,getah,
sawit maioh kena nampung pengidup iban rumah panjai....
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Off course we can talk about this all day long, explorer. You can tell me why PRS is not really for the Dayak; I can tell you why Dayak have not much choice but to accept the rescue buoyant offered to them by PRS. We can debate this topic all day and night.

But on the other hand we must respect the person
who started this post, and what kind of topic she was trying to develop. The way I see it, we are not helping her there but continue to discourse from the original issue. Since I had carelessly mention PRS in my post and you take on from there, why don't we start a war of our own. I suggest you start posting an article with headline "PRS: Saving Dayak or Mutilating Iban?" Then I can join you there, and we can spit on each other, cekik, tumbuk, kasi bungkus, jahit, lipat, flying kick, goreng, rendam lama-lama sampai lemas, whateveeeeeeeeeer to each other !!!!

But right now, right here, I say this place is not big enough for us. Start a post of your own and my first question to you will be "Why killed PBDS when we have the solution in the 'Miri Formula' all along?"

Now collect your PRS and get the fuck out of here.
Selene
to OO7

It is ok James, that is the nature of healthy discussion, one subject can lead to another. It is no less valid then the other. In fact it is the best way to develop conversation.

PRS, pity you have not been to rp.com before it got wiped out, otherwise you would know our various opinions on this party and how and why it came about.

By the way any chance of explaining further on what you called the''Miri Formula'', let hear some more on this..
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                  The 'Miri Formula'

It was initiated in Miri sometime in the first quarter of 2002, if I still can remember the time correctly, the last time the PBDS people had had a collective agreement over one agenda and in this case the party's line-up. The formula had it that, upon resignation of Leo Moggie from PBDS helm,
Daniel Tajem will take over as president while James Masing as deputy president. Sometime later, just months before Moggie step down officially from PBDS leadership, news broke out that there's a change in the line-up. The new 'organisation chart' put Tajem as president and
Joseph Salang as the deputy!!!

Now why Masing not in the picture? That was basically the fundamental reason behind all the power struggle leading to the deregistration of PBDS, Selene. For Tajem's group they said the change in plan is necessary for Salang has
been his side-kick all along and that Tajem only need to lead the PBDS 'at least once in his lifetime' together with his choice of leaders before he hand it over to the choice of the masses. The Masing group, on the other hand, didn't see it
that way. They feel a conspiracy is showing its ugly head and they're of the opinion that they need to stop Tajem and gang from causing further damage to the PBDS.

While the Masing group keep insisiting Tajem,
made president by default, to honour the Miri Formula, Tajem, being a lawyer by profession and former deputy chief minister, thought it was a good idea to stick to his original plan, the ammended Miri Formula (I think Moggie is the real pain in the ass. He resigned from the post prematurely. Why can't he just wait until his term in office is over. Maybe it was his idea all along: He gave life to PBDS; he killed it )

The Miri Formula was recognised by many and efforts had been taken by them to get the two factions to put the formula to work, but to no avail. In the end, the two feuding groups held their
own TDC, in Santubong and Bintulu respectively. In Bintulu, Masing was elected president unopposed; in Santubong Tajem return as president, also unopposed !!! At the end of the day the two 'PBDS' have two sets of everything -- two presidents, two TDCs, two line-ups, two dreams. The bottom point, ROS didn't recognise either set !!!

The ROS made the last bid to save PBDS from deregistration. ROS asked PBDS to hold a TDC, and so to avoid phantom voters, use the 2000 TDC electoral list. Time's up, still the TDC never come. ROS had to pull the trigger .............. and we become the laughing stoke. That tragedy will go down in the history of Malaysia. For once there, after the deregistration, I was so ashame to call myself Dayak

Am not trying to angkat burit here, but I see how the BN Govt had exhausted all possible means to save Dayaks Politics.

Masing may not be the saviour of PBDS afterall,
because he tried to kill PBDS
Tajem could be the one who killed PBDS, because he didn't try to save PBDS, when he was given the chance.

When the house on fire, why bother fighting about who should be the chief fireman !!! Kill the fire not the opponent, BODOH !!!! (you can quote me there)
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:05 am
in RumahPanjai.com
  
I suppose it's not to late to ask those to refer back in History as to why are our failings surfacing every 2 or 3 generations. Whatever happened to PBDS in 2004 is a sad reflection of this. Dayaks were galvanised politically by the English, and Dutch Mercenaries/Missionaries/Colonialists to act as a political and religious bulwark against the more adventurous "Malays/Arabs" in Borneo's coastal fiefdoms.

I can recollect reading sometime ago somewhere about a Dayak Party in West Kalimantan (1940s) organised to replace the loss of a Malay/Arab Elite in Pontianak, but the fruits of that labour came to naught, as the 2 powerful Dayak Chiefs in that Party quarrelled amongst themselves to the detriment and eventual split/destruction of that Party. I hate to say this, but the similarities between that particular Dayak Party in West Kalimantan and PBDS in Sarawak is too close a Case Study to just ignore and forget.

40 years down the road, and the Dayak in Kalimantan are disorganised, their leaders are corrupt and most report to their political masters in Jakarta. Tragically, those Policy analysts in Kalimantan (20s, 40s and 60s) did not had the benefit of hindsight when they implemented the wishes of their Javanese Leaders (Soekarno and Soeharto) to transmigrate a large slice of the Madurese population to Borneo. The social results of that conflict (1997, 1999,, 2001) should teach us a lesson or 2 in Sarawak. The Western Malaysians have degraded Sabah politically (at the behest of the Local Bajau Leadership) and we in Sarawak are contemplating that lecherous scenario., not too far away in the distant future.

If we continue to allow ur Leaders to fail us, politically (I'm sorry, but the idea of begging in Putra Jaya for more political clout is off putting) then we're following a recipe for disaster. The first signs are there and developing, there is no free press in Sarawak ( You can't even get the Tribune online anymore !!) and the boundaries on which various social issues which continue to plagued the Dayak (NCR, Education, Poverty,etc....) are constantly being pushed to the extent that we, the Dayak in Sarawak, are bursting at the seams. 

As for me, I've had to re-assess much of my approach as regards Dayak Politics. I don't think Taib Mahmud can keep KL away indefinitely from Sarawak (too much riches) and sooner or later he will fail politically. There is no Successor to the White Hair, and that implies instability not too far away in the near future, either we, as Dayaks are in position to dictate our terms, or we allow the Malay or Melanau princelings to bully the Dayak leadership. Law of averages says we can't be stupid ALL THE TIME.


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