Space, Time, Labour, Emancipation X
Emancipatory Fire versus
Labour Energy!
Parapsychology and Paranormality
20th March, 2001
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naranjahit has entered the room.
juttaschmi has entered the room.
panta98:Carl's computer
is in a mess; Juergen can't get a necessary plug in an East Berlin Hotel;
well, we have to go it all alone; then they could read the chat later!
naranjahit:Hi Franz and Jutta
panta98:The "cyberghost"
really terrorize us!
panta98:Hi Stella!!!
panta98:Let me know if I
could proceed introducing our topic!
naranjahit: Please proceed
juttaschmi:Hi
Franz, Hi Stella! Pleasure to see you.
THERE WE GO ....
panta98:Why are we dealing
with the themes: PARANORMALITY AND PARAPSYCHOLOGY?
juttaschmi:That
is a good question for the beginning, Franz.
panta98:What do you think?
juttaschmi:I
think because we are dealing with a certain degree or mension of "consciousness",
"existence", or whatever you like to call it.
juttaschmi:It
certainly falls into the realm of uneven and combined development &
consciousness.
panta98:You are an intelligent
"ghost", Jutta!
juttaschmi:Oh
my ghost!
panta98:Certainly, all of
us have noticed strange events in our lives; for example, some transhistoric
fata morgana that suddenly reflects itself in the tedious humdrum of everyday
labour experiences.
naranjahit: Well, we are looking
for traces, for some other degree...
juttaschmi:We
are on the track of the lost "PSI-factors" tonight. Let's go for them,
Stella!
panta98:Stella, do you remember
any?
naranjahit: Wait have to read
back.
panta98:Yes, Jutta. Especially
feminine ones.
juttaschmi:Warm
up those PSI-factors of yours, and start seeing through walls. Haven't
you attended a seminar with Oleg Lohnes? Let's take a transatlantic glance
at each other, Stella! ;-)
panta98:Across the
ages, we have heard about thousands and thousands of strange "ghost stories";
common folk, writers, movie directors, priests, children, poets, artists,
theists, atheists, philosophers , all portrayed all sorts of queer "apparitions",
...
panta98:... "flying carpets",
"evil witches riding on brooms", "Our Lady of Fatima dancing on the clouds",
"Mary Poppins descending with her Umbrella", "The Flying Nun", "Manimal",
etc.
naranjahit: No I did not attend
the seminar!
panta98:Stella, you see
what I meant by "culture" and "tradition".
naranjahit:Yes, I do so.
juttaschmi:(What
a shame, Stella. Anyhow, let me know, when you attend an Oleg Lohnes seminar,
and tell me all about it.)
panta98:Well, get your "flying
carpet" and come home, Stella!
panta98:How about a Mary
Poppins' umbrella, or a broom?
juttaschmi:We
will use the cow hide in the living room and meet half way. ;-)
naranjahit: First I
need the Froschschenkel and Geckoköpfe
that Jutta offered to me ;-)
panta98:That's a
new Thousand-And-One-Night Idea, Jutta.
juttaschmi:No
problem, Stella. We will get you all the necessary ingredients you need
for your flying carpet.
naranjahit: Thank you, you
are ever so sweet!
juttaschmi:Welcome,
Stella!! Franz, please proceed.
panta98:Carl & Bill
say that you could get the material in the local supermarket.
juttaschmi:What.
For a flying cow-hide, Franz?
panta98:Proceeding ....
panta98:All of them encountered
"wandering souls", spoke to "lost spirits", fought against "evil demons",
were guided by personal "guardian angels", etc.
juttaschmi:I
will have to attach a propellor to it ...
panta98:Nowadays, they take
on monstrous high tech forms, appear as nightmares, as UFO's, "Flying Saucers",
"Green Martians", as Bin Laden, abducting, seducing, violating, terrorizing
us.
juttaschmi:Truly
so, Franz.
juttaschmi:They
appear as "Tokoloshe".
naranjahit: Appears as "Star
Gate"
juttaschmi:Or
is it Tamagochi?
naranjahit: Both, Jutta.
panta98:Yes, that is the
South African version!
juttaschmi:I
thought so, Stella.
panta98:Were all these "human
beings" crazy, drugged or were they just voicing their wildest fantasies,
phantoms or phantasmagoria? Are these just results of educational indoctrination,
ideological brainwashing or "mind control"?
juttaschmi: But
Franz, please continue.
panta98:What do you two
think?
juttaschmi:This
is difficult to determine, Franz. It could be either case. But consider,
that educational indoctrination would probably just have the opposite purpose,
that is, to prevent people from developing their natural "PSI-faculties",
so to speak.
panta98:OK! Let us see.
naranjahit: A part of it is
the result of naturalization and socialization, and the other part is one
of de-naturalization/de-socialization or "Education".
panta98:Another possibility?
panta98:Well said, Stella!
panta98:Or do many of them
have to do with "Hidden History", with other and another realities, mensions
and spheres? Are not the NASA, PENTAGON, NATO and other similar "satanic"
institutions the contemporary "Conquistadors" of Global and Galactic Inquisition,
experts in hidden paranormality and parapsychology?
juttaschmi:Agreed,
Stella. We have both factors involved. (Stella, please say "stop" when
this goes too fast, and also take your time for the comments)
naranjahit: Yes. My English
is the problem!
panta98:Please save the
chat!!
panta98:Don't worry about
your English! I'll correct any slip later! Say what you feel like.
juttaschmi:No
problem, Stella. - Franz, I think the phenomena described above DO have
to do with "hidden history" much rather than with weirdo-fantasies or something
the like. Some people still have their natural, transhistoric faculties.
panta98:OK, agreed. Proceeding
....
juttaschmi:People
who have, for some reason or the other, been able to conserve these once
natural faculties of the brain are favourite objects of investigation by
all sorts of "institutions".
panta98:Yes, that's true.
The Russians, during the "Cold War" period specialized in this area. for
this reason they have advanced paranormal, parapsychological knowledge.
panta98:Proceeding ....
juttaschmi:ok
panta98:Eventually, when
"the time is ripe", at the eve of "Armageddon", at the zenith of Intellectual
Property, will they not democratically "control" and peacefully annihilate
the billions of mortally infected, giga-profits jeopardizing, physically
labouring "mad cattle" on a global scale? The "peace talks" we already
witness now on a world scale, especially in the Mideast!
panta98:Bodily and mentally,
have they not eliminated millions and millions of them already across the
millennia? Slave labour, building pyramids, the Taj Mahal, Buddhas, Slave
Trade, killing vagrants, colonial wars, assassinations, rotting out the
Herero, Rwanda Massacre, Operation Desert Storm, Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
AIDS, HAARP, Mad Cow Disease, drugs, alcohol, nicotine, holocaust, etc.?
juttaschmi:Billions
will be annihilated one or the other way, Franz. And billions HAVE been
annihilated one or the other way across the millennia, agreed.
juttaschmi:They
have, for instance, been crippled in their physical and "intellectual"
existence to a degree, where they are but living corpses.
panta98:Yes, by social order,
by misery, poverty, sickness, etc.
juttaschmi:They
respond to their environment like Pavlov-Dogs, and that is about it.
juttaschmi:No
thinking, no intellectualizing, no "reasoning", no surpassing involved.
Just reacting automatically to the demands of the labour process. That
is what I call behaviour and mind modification.
panta98:Nature and Human
Nature, the physical world, and physical human labour, have been exploited,
wasted, destroyed.
juttaschmi:And
a part of mind modification or "mind control", as we have come to name
it, has to do with the destruction of the natural faculties of the brain,
amongst other things, what falls into the "dequalified" realm of the "paranormal".
juttaschmi:-
disqualifiziert -
panta98:Even the "ghost",
the spirit, the courage, were driven out of the bodies and minds of billions,
all for the sake of exploitation, domination, discrimination and alienation.
panta98:In what a labour
world we vegetate my country(wo)men!!! And billions, including Nobel Prize
Winners, Ph.D.s, erudite scientists, scholars of world renown and classical
philosophers merrily dance "peacefully", "reconciliatory" and "democratically"
on the doomed, sinking "Titanic" of Alienation.
juttaschmi:Each
and every manifestation of those faculties is being deliberately "dequalified"
and said to be nonsense. This is yet another door that has been shut and
sealed by the labour process, by formal logics, by ideology, etc. etc.
panta98:Agreed, Jutta.
juttaschmi:(is
it "disqualified", Franz?)
panta98:Yes, disqualified,
by unqualified lies and ideology!
naranjahit: My Babylon-Translator
says yes, Jutta ;-)
panta98:OK! Stella.
panta98:Continuing ... They
do not realize that the awful sounding global drums, that the deafening
hellish noise of this eerie, gruesome ideological "blockbuster" music will
once more glorify and accompany their Death March towards their very own
home-made French Guillotine.
juttaschmi:Thanks,
Stella and Franz! - Assuming the "existence" of various uneven and combined
levels, degrees and mensions of being and existence, all those paranormal
phenomena have their valid explanation.
panta98:Yes, Jutta. Yes,
although fascinated by the Great French Bourgeois-Democratic Revolution,
very wisely, the enlightening "World Spirit", Hegel, had warned his capitalist
compatriots: What is born in terror, merits to perish in terror! The normal
"ghosts" of the "Reign Of Terror" globally now come home to roost paranormally.
panta98:Any direct comments?
naranjahit:No comments so far.
juttaschmi:It
is a march towards total, global "equalization" Franz. It is the famous
"Gleichschaltung" on a global scale, a homogenization machine, that flattens
all brains and all behaviour and moulds them into the only one "fitting"
and granted scheme.
panta98:Agreed, Stella.
It's horrible enough!
juttaschmi:The
scheme is the A = A and forever A scheme.
naranjahit: Global "Equalization"
- agreed, Jutta.
panta98:What was the Nazi
slogan for this again, Jutta & Stella?
juttaschmi:Yes,
Stella. - Stillhalten, Maulhalten, Gleichschalten? Something
like that, Franz.
panta98:Please translate,
Jutta.
juttaschmi:Keep
quiet, keep your mouth shut, and line up with the others.
juttaschmi: It
is the "don't stand out" syndrome, that the Japanese have loved and practiced
so much.
panta98:OK! Proceeding ...
Billions of "poor souls" are happy and gay; they enjoy their "Bread and
Games", their "Vodka and Caviar", they'll never know what really happened
to them on this god forlorn planet.
juttaschmi: And
the Germans most certainly, too.
panta98: Perhaps, for their
sake, it is "better" so. Let them enjoy themselves, let them relax, let
them rest in peace! It is not our historic task to disturb them in their
deep, delirious Prozac, Demerol, Seraphim, Sarafem Sleep.
panta98:Of course, we also
have home-made "ghosts", labour ghosts. The first Spaniards who entered
the land of the Maya and Aztecs were surely "pale-faced ghosts"; arriving
at the Cape of Good Hope, in 1652, for the BaThwa and the "Strandlopers",
Jan van Riebeeck must have been a dangerous "evil spirit". The same satanic
labour epithet applies to the infamous Christopher Columbus.
juttaschmi:By
no means do we want to deprive anybody of their well deserved Prozac-sleep,
Franz! :-) But,
let us investigate what you have indicated above, Franz. What about the
other levels of behaviour, degrees of thought and mensions of excellence?
panta98:Nevertheless, we
find ourselves on the uttermost vague, hazy horizon -- which at the same
"time", is the fading aurora, the withering aura, the final judgement of
Chronos, and, on the other hand, the horrid to kenón,
horrific "Space", horrifying Chaos, the horror vacui, the Nothingness --
of the Fatherland, of the Patria, of Labour, of Man, of Global Alienation.
juttaschmi: Each
and everybody who runs around in Europe these days looks pretty much like
a ghost, Franz. They are running out of oxygen, anyway ...
juttaschmi: And
thou
shallst labour by the sweat of thy brow!
juttaschmi: And
thou
shallst swallow thy daily Prozac ....!
panta98:Yes, Jutta. The
lonely crowd in the big metropolitan cities rushes through the overcrowded
streets, like ghosts, covered with smog, suffering from Spring allergy,
fascinated by the Schaffle, Schaffle, Haeusle Baue Und Dann
Verrecke Syndrome!
juttaschmi:and
thou
shallst not even dream about asking why this is so!
juttaschmi: Hay
fever certainly is a big obstacle for the activation or reactivation of
anyone's PSI-factors, Franz. ;-)
panta98:Work, Work,
Build Your House, and Then Vegetate!!!
naranjahit: Hay fever?
panta98:Let's see, Jutta.
juttaschmi:And
I doubt, that "Claritin" or whatever will make way for a clear nose and
a clear brain. On the contrary!
juttaschmi: Heuschnupfen,
Stella.
naranjahit: Thanks.
panta98:Formal Logic, Ideology
and Religion created a closed circuit around Labour, around Man, a One-And-All,
a one, single, only reality; "A", and it is always equal to "A". The eternal,
infinite guardians of this closed labour system are: on the intellectual
side, GOD, the Spirit, the Soul; on the material side, NOTHING, Nihil,
Nothingness.
juttaschmi:Drugs
are the physical component that is crucial for the current behaviour and
mind modification.
panta98:Agreed, Jutta. This
closed system keeps us physically "in order", "limited", "fixed up", "healthy"
and controlled; and spiritually, "sane", filled with belief and hope. Nobody
is allowed to cross this divine, nihilistic, alienated Rubicon.
panta98:Today, we will just
concentrate on the "spiritual" side: dealing briefly with spiritualism,
mysticism, shamism, paranormality and parapsychology.
juttaschmi:Formal
Logics, Ideology and Religion are the "spiritual" components of behaviour
and mind modification.
panta98: D'accord!
juttaschmi: Aux
armes citoyens!
panta98:Firstly, let us
see what is a "parapsychological phenomenon", coming from Greek: "para",
against, next to, parallel, etc.; "psyche" (soul, spirit), "logos" (Spirit,
God, Higher Order, Highest Good, Fire, etc., "phainómenon" (manifestation,
appearance, apparition, etc.).
juttaschmi: It
should rather be meta-psychological, I guess?
panta98:I know, but the
"experts"prefer "para". We can already note that the "spirit", the "ghost"
is appearing next to us, putting awesome, fearful, divine hell fire under
our terrified, terrific bums, under our "financially challenged" parallel
worlds.
juttaschmi:So,
"parapsychological" means "a parallel spiritual phenomenon"?!
panta98:This PSI PHENOMENON
is one of several types of events that cannot be accounted for by formal
logics, by "natural" labour law or by "human" knowledge apparently acquired
by other than usual sensory or ideological abilities and facilities. The
discipline which investigates such phenomena is called Parapsychology.
juttaschmi:Welcome
to the world of parallel universes ...
panta98:Yes. but not quite
so para-llel!
juttaschmi:meta-llel
juttaschmi:metallic
;-)
juttaschmi:proceed,
Franz
panta98:Yes, the meta-physical
version.
panta98:But, we have our
"metas" straight, like Don Albert.
juttaschmi:We
sure do, Franz. Please continue.
panta98:Yes, meta-llic like
the Pentagon "Flying Saucers".
panta98:Continuing ... Billions
of "human beings", -- stuffed to the brim with pills and drugs, in hallucinating
delirium, -- including one out of seven Swedes, also all religious peoples
(85% of humanity) at various levels of "natural" physical labour "development",
...
panta98:... and at variegated
degrees of "social" intellectual labour "progress", of course, all see
an even, uneven and combined manifestation of strange "ghosts" and "spirits",
preferably around midnight, by candle light and near cemeteries. However,
modern technology, producing "zombies", is driving even the "ghosts" away!
juttaschmi:The
above mentioned involves a clarification of the term "normal", Franz and
Stella. "Normal" is the measuring rod within the labour process if and
to what degree its members fulfil their duties. ...
panta98:Yes, Work, Labour,
Order, Peace, Democracy, ... all these are "normal".
panta98: Firstly,
these "paraghosts" may be cognitive, for example, in the
case of clairvoyance, telepathy, or precognition. Usually, some "human
being" is believed to have acquired "paranormal" knowledge of things. (S)he
reads people's thoughts, or in temporal parameters can see "future" events,
using extrasensory perception (ESP), and is not using the "normal" labour
channels.
juttaschmi:...
anything "abnormal" or "paranormal" is a sign of alarm to the system, indicated
by the prefix of those terms, respectively. "Normal" as defined by the
system is accepting and defending it.
panta98:Comments?
juttaschmi:All
that goes beyond acceptance and defence of the system is potentially dangerous,
abnormal, paranormal, paranoid, ... etc., etc.
panta98: Let me just mention
the second part, Jutta, then I will comment on your observations.
panta98:Secondly,
by applying psychokinesis, these "paraspirits" may be physical in nature:
for example, like Einstein's God, who is playing dice in Las Vegas or Atlantic
City; or like Schopenhauer, dealing out playing cards, and then "willing"
them to fall in their favour; ...
panta98: ... or like the
Poltergeist
events,
where youngsters, suffering from Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD),
to the great annoyance of their sado-masochistic parents, begin to "focus"
physically on the house goodies, and then totally smash the expensive Rococo
tables and Louis XIV chairs simply with the supernatural power of their
little frustrated "minds".
juttaschmi:Aha.
I think it takes "more" than Attention Deficit Disorder to perform psychkinesis,
Franz. ;-)
panta98:Agreed, Jutta.
The ideological lectures of the "poltergeist" movies are not sufficient.
juttaschmi:So,
we have the "spiritual" (social) part, that is, extrasensory "perception",
and the "physical" (natural) part, that involves physical bodies.
panta98:That's it! I will
explain further now.
juttaschmi: Please.
naranjahit: Proceed, Franz.
panta98:Surely, the whole
"history" of labour is filled with a myriad of ghosts, sorcerers, witches,
demons, monsters, mythological beings, veridical prophecies, the Oracle
of Delphi, the revival of the dead, of changing stones into bread, water
into wine, hitting water out of a rock, of the Resurrection of Jesus, drinking
the Blood of Jesus, devouring His Divine Flesh, of the miracles of the
"saints", etc.
panta98:What a bloody, bloodthirsty
festival, my country(wo)men!!!
juttaschmi:...
devouring his divine flesh ... I like that one, Franz. Monotheistic Cannibalism
...
panta98:Already, in the
last half of the 19th century, to counter virulent Marxism, a spiritualist
movement grew out of the general bourgeois ideological acceptance of spirit
communication as real and fit for future religious indoctrination. Now,
let us briefly look at some relevant aspects of "spiritualism".
juttaschmi:Please
continue, Franz.
panta98:That this world
is based on a single postulate, that it is only Spirit, Ghost, "Society",
"History", "A = A"; is Man, is Labour, is Alienation, concerning these,
we need not waste any precious "labour time" anymore. In previous chats
we have dealt sufficiently with this matter already. Let's proceed.
panta98:Now, what is "spiritualism"
alias intellectual "labouralism"? It concerns "I believe that ...."; "I
hope that ...".
juttaschmi: I
see.
panta98:Whenever we launch
a sentence like that, consciously, unconsciously or even inconsciously,
we appeal to an even, archaic "natural" level of our labour essence, to
an uneven, obsolete degree of "consciousness", to our sublimated religious
feelings and beliefs, to our subjective, emotional, "social" spiritualism.
panta98:85% of the world
population, the superstitious and religious ones, believe that deceased
"souls" hold telepathic or spiritual intercourse with all living mortals,
usually through a psychic medium or through abnormal, paranormal mental
states, such as hallucination, delirium or trance.
juttaschmi:The
problem here is, that religion steps into and thereby spoils a realm, that
otherwise would be classifiable as part of "hidden history", Franz.
panta98:Exactly so -- God
guards the portals toward Emancipation, blocking them forever, Amen!
panta98:Definitely, having
received a "good" education, we all know already that "Spirit" is supposed
to be the essential part of man. When the body dies, the spirit lives on.
Soma sema! The "spiritual world" is the world of disembodied spirits. Wonderful!
Full of Wonders! Miraculous! Filled with Miracles!
juttaschmi:Religion
steps in to control, "guide" and finally spoil and destroy what has accidentally
been left of natural capacities of the brain.
juttaschmi:Carry
on, Franz.
panta98:Religion is not
only"opium", it is strychnine to thinking, thought and psi-processes.
juttaschmi:Sadly
so, Franz.
panta98:Anybody that "believes",
that is religious, can forget about scientific and philosophic thinking,
thought and theory. Belief and Thought behave like Oil and Water, they
do not mix, they do not relate.
panta98:Now, to keep you
awake online. Let us look at some fundamental "spiritualist" definitions.
juttaschmi:OK.
panta98:A "medium" mediates
between the two worlds. A "séance" is a spiritual rendezvous around
a medium to seek oracular messages from the spirits. "Telepathy" is the
telecommunication of ideas and thoughts through other than physical means.
juttaschmi:So
the medium must be half "normal" half "paranormal", half "here", half "there"?!
naranjahit: "Good" Question!
juttaschmi:Half
"para", half "normal", Stella. ;-)
juttaschmi:The
medium has a "plus", an extra factor, that non-media don't have.
panta98:That's it, otherwise
the medium, that exists in the middle, a medias, cannot mediate.
juttaschmi:How
else could it "mediate"? (Perhaps today's Mideast "peace" mediators should
learn from this.)
juttaschmi:
;-)
panta98:Yes a Plus
like us, like in our Science a n d Philosopy -- but not a Plus-Quam-Perfect!
juttaschmi:But
please proceed with the "spiritualist" definitions, Franz.
panta98:"Clairvoyance" is
the mental power of seeing through means other than the naturaleye. "Clairaudience"
is the power of hearing paranormal voices other than could beaccomplished
by the physical ear. "Levitation" is the lifting of an object by means
of mental means.
juttaschmi:Well,
well. That is quite complicated, Franz. I "hope" we are not talking of
the bicameral state of mind now ...
juttaschmi:...
but of the bi- and tri- and multicameral mind!
panta98:Yes, but also about
our cosmic-ontic-excellent, historical, emancipatory relations.
juttaschmi:Alright.
Please continue.
panta98:Continuing with
the definitions. ... "Materialization" is the appearance of a "ghost" in
the form of matter. "Apport" is the capacity of producing objects without
physical means or to move through walls, planets or mountains which have
no openings.
panta98:These "abnormal",
"paranormal" actions and thoughts are, of course, well-nigh impossible
in one reality, in a formal-logical closed system, in fixed spatial-temporal
paradigms and parameters.
juttaschmi:Interesting.
- Does Oleg Lohnes also WALK through walls,, Stella?
naranjahit:I don't think so
Jutta!
panta98:Did you see him
walk through the wall, Stella?
juttaschmi:What
a shame. Why only see through walls and not walk through walls?
panta98:Well, soon we will
show him how to do it!O:-)
naranjahit:Franz! ;-)
juttaschmi:NASA
sees and hears through walls, perhaps they also walk through them...
panta98:Proceeding ... Certainly,
a "medium", a "séance", "telepathy", "clairvoyance", "clairaudience",
"levitation", "materialization", "spiritualization", "nihilization", "apport"
and many other transcendental things belong to our triagoric, trialogical
excellence and transcendence, to our Science a n d Philosophy
AND Emancipation.
juttaschmi:Perhaps
if you "accelerate" your speed in an extraordinary way, you can actually
"walk" through walls.
panta98:Who knows, Jutta?
In the "X-Files", they achieve this! In elementary forms, many of these
things we perform in "daily" praxis and theory; quite a lot of them we
have experienced across our lives. They appear sporadic, unsystematic and
intuitively.
juttaschmi:(accelerating
your speed has to do with time and space parameters though. Not a "good"
recommendation, I'm afraid to say.)
panta98:Or, why are we so
"different"?
panta98:And, strange enough,
these things do not appear only to us; a great part of the "ghost" stories
are probably "real" and "true", but the labour establishment, the alienation
status
quo, cannot permit, legitimize, legalize them; they belong to "occult
knowledge".
panta98:A typical example
is "spirit healing". Now, imagine what would happen to the "Welfare State",
to "non-smoking" campaigns, to the drug industries, when suddenly human
welfare and social health are being cared for by nonmaterial means.
juttaschmi:Mother
Nature is shedding tears on our ignorance! We have the Sintflut
(deluge) over our house right now, Stella!
juttaschmi:A
heavy rainstorm.
juttaschmi:The
drug industry would go bankrupt, Franz.
panta98:Yes, for the first
time in four months, HAARP storms over Merida, to wash us like swine into
the sea!
naranjahit:*sending some drops
to San Onofre*
panta98:Of course, and Khalid
would have no research project anymore.
panta98:Yes, Stella.
juttaschmi:Khalid
would be out of job, truly so, Franz. And Stella: This is not the kind
of rain we would like to see fall on San Onofre!
panta98:There it is like
in Southern California: it never rains there! But, we see more clearly
there!
naranjahit:"some drops" Jutta
;-)
[Addendum (the nexy day): We actually succeeded: after 4 months of drought, at that very moment, it rained heavily in San Onofre, on our Pandemonium Farm! You see what we mean!]
juttaschmi:Anyhow,
Franz, those definitions are certainly interesting. They all "transcend"
the time and space parameters.
juttaschmi:(Okay,
Stella. I will do my best and blow some drops over to S.O.)
panta98:Continuing ... If
the tokoloshes start healing, what would happen to the trillions of Charitin,
Sarafem and Prozac pills, to the US$ trillions of giga-profits won by the
global drug moguls?
juttaschmi:They
would rename Prozac into "Tokoloshac", Franz.
panta98:Stella, you would
love what comes now .....
naranjahit: No profits, no
"humans" anymore!
panta98: Yes, Jutta, Tokoloshac!
panta98:Proceeding ... Knowing
and applying real, true, fiery, emancipatory, historic relations, talking
about paranormal "levitation" and "apport", we would need NEITHER
"energy" NOR a "flying saucer" to "fly" to the moon
AND to milk sane, healthy cows grazing on the evergreen pastures of the
Milky Way; as twinkling stardust, we would be the sparkling Milky Way ourselves!
juttaschmi:Yes,
Stella and Franz.
juttaschmi:That
is a beautiful picture and "ein großer Bogen", Franz.
naranjahit: Truly so, Jutta.
panta98:Yes, in the philosophic
style of Bloch: Bogen: Utopie - Materie!
juttaschmi: Erhabenheit
á la Kant: Der gestirnte Himmel über mir, und das moralische
Gesetz in mir!
naranjahit:Wow!
juttaschmi:(Now,
how do you express that in English?!)
naranjahit:There is no way
to really translate it, let the hornets apply their German, hehehe!
juttaschmi:AGREED,
Stella, let the hornets improve their German!
juttaschmi:
;-)
panta98:Now, take
your tomato, Jutta! Translate that for our guests!
juttaschmi:No
translation required, Franz.
panta98:Well, Carl is improving
his German and Arabic! And Khalid comes second with Chinese!
panta98:Yeah! (Sublimation
á la Kant: The starry firmament above me,
and the moral law in me).
panta98:Talking about Bloch's
"Bogen: Materie - Utopie": Read your Bible: Probably
the "materialization" that was described in the "Holy Bible", in I Sam.
28:7-19 had occurred all over the planet many times already.
Saul visited the witch of Endor, who materialized the prophet Samuel, and
the King was highly impressed.
juttaschmi: So,
how do we accomplish this "Bogen", Franz?
juttaschmi: (I
don't want to transform myself into any Saul, however)
panta98: This was not the
jealous, wrathful Jahwe at work, but just an ordinary heathen "witch",
a kind of "Ouma Grooitjie", who knew how to apply scientifically certain
natural-socio-historic relations. We need no Star Trek "scientific
knowledge" to accomplish this "miraculous feat". Even bugs "know" how to
cause an atomic chain reaction.
panta98:So, if the witches
and bugs can do it, why can't we?
juttaschmi:That
is the Zillion Dollar question, Franz.
panta98:Yes, and Iris would
foam! Roast me alive!
juttaschmi:I
can tele-materialize certain wishes, but that is about all I can do.
panta98:Worse to come, Stella
& Jutta!
panta98:Perhaps, we should
study and apply our Science and Philosophy consciously and conscientiously,
praxically and theoretically, naturally and socially, and soon we'll organize
a paranormal transhistoric chat with Plato, Aristotle, Hegel, Marx and
Bloch. Carl would be flabbergasted with this emancipatory idea!
juttaschmi: Count
me in for this chat, Franz!!
naranjahit: Me too.
panta98: Yes, me too.
panta98:And in the paranormal
thereafter (Space a n d Time) we could go and enjoy a delicious Pilzener
Beer with them in some old German monastery or Czech tavern, or to drink
a cold dark stout in some Scottish pub. Who knows what all we could achieve
in abnormal transhistoric "cyberspacetime"?
juttaschmi: Imagine:
"What you always wanted to ask Ernst Bloch ..."
juttaschmi: Share
a good meal and a fart with Martin Luther.
juttaschmi: (Excuse
me.)
panta98: Yes, Bloch told
us that he did it already. He and Walter Benjamin took haschisch, and had
a nice chat with Hegel.
naranjahit: Excused, Jutta.
juttaschmi:
Thanks,
Stella.
juttaschmi:(
I know your Knigge-eyes are watching over me!)
panta98: In the obscurantist
Middle Ages, at the time of the Inquisition, under the iron-fist absolutist
rule of the Dominican Order, marking the hey-day of brutal Roman Catholicism,
European Labour had destroyed the greatest part of continental feminine
psi-factors, by means of "exorcism" and by simply burning all these "witches"
on the stake.
naranjahit:Now I think we have
to ask ourselves, whether in any way it would "help" anything
when we question them.
panta98: In modern times,
in the last analysis, Freud, Jung Adler, Kaiserlein and their like, all
shrinks just continued this exorcist Draculian tradition.
panta98:At the so-called
"witch trials", many mediumistic phenomena, like the appearance of spirits
in quasi-material form and the obtaining of practical knowledge through
spirits were reported.
juttaschmi:Franz:
sadly so, and Stella: excellent observation.
panta98:Now, what about
shamanism?
panta98:Yes, Stella! As
Khalid would say: koodoos, kudus!! Cow-doos, Kuh-dus!
panta98:In so-called "primitive
society", not yet completely destroyed by "civilization", especially in
Siberia and Central Asia, shamanism, the technique of ecstacy, has a relation
to "purgative" (Carl) mysticism. This practice also pronounces paranormal
or supernatural phenomena.
panta98:Both the shaman
and the mystic claim to have spiritual contact and communication to other
worlds and realities. Of course, modern "science" declares them obsolete
and irrelevant in the administration of knowledge of any kind. And yet,
to identify them, the concepts "enlightenment or illumination" are more
appropriate.
juttaschmi:I
think we could establish a scientific connection between Shamanism
and Oleg Lohnes, Franz and Stella.
naranjahit: In which way Jutta?
panta98: That would be most
interesting, Jutta. Now, to end this huge introduction. ... Finally, what
about Psychokinesis (PK), the so-called TELEKINESIS, in Parapsychology?
juttaschmi:All
these spiritual connections, remote diagnosis etc. are based on electromagnetism,
if I'm not mistaken.
naranjahit: Yes, you are right.
panta98:Surely, Carl &
Bill could confirm this!
juttaschmi:So,
there surely is a basis to all these "strange" phenomena.
panta98: Experts tell us
that PK is the action of mind on matter, in which external objects are
caused to move in "time" and "space" or to change in one way or another
as a result of mental concentration or meditation upon them.
panta98: How are ESP and
PK related? That is, if Formal Labour Logic, that abhors para-doxes,
would permit any relation at all. The closed system only
accepts "normal" Sensory Perception (SP), cum grano salis, i.e.,
Physical Labour, and "normal" Kinesis (Motion) within fixed spatial-temporal
para-digms and para-meters, mutatis mutandis, i.e., Intellectual
Labour.
juttaschmi: ESP
and PK clearly leave the "standard" time and space parameters, with their
corresponding laws, Franz.
panta98:The above is fast,
related thinking, but, please comment.
panta98:Yes, that is the
"Pudelskern"!
juttaschmi:"Action
of mind on matter" is a problematic, if not to say, an erratic formulation.
panta98:That's what they
say, Jutta. The parapsychological experts, for example, from Freiburg.
juttaschmi:There
is no mind without matter and viceversa. Yet, formal-logically, the two
are always separated. PK only makes sense, if "mind" and "matter" are directly
related.
panta98:But, we do not separate
them. ... To see anything else is sheer madness, the "abnormal" person
is doomed urgently to go and see an official certified psychiatrist, psychotherapist
or psychoanalyst -- in fact, (s)he is fit for the asylum. A typical case
was Wilhelm Reich.
juttaschmi: And,
let us not forget, that there are probably millions of possible and actual
"forms" of relations between "mind" and "matter", that exceed our "imagination"
and our power of thought.
juttaschmi: Agreed
on the above statement, Franz.
panta98: True! What would
happen if we scientifically and philosophically relate the two "abnormal,
paranormal" opposites? Of course, it is very simple: we would be relating
Nature
a n d Society, would land in History,
acquire "super-natural powers" and "giga-social knowledge", we would become
"Gods, who defy, NEITHER AFFIRM NOR NEGATE ex nihil fit",
and as a result of this excellence, we would simply transcend
Man, would emancipate ourselves from the Labour Moloch.
juttaschmi: So,
what are we waiting for?!
panta98: Sorry, like a little
child, I got a bit too over-excited, fell in love with paranormal, paramount
emancipation!
juttaschmi: With
all "reason", Franz! :-)
panta98: Within the
real, true, diverse and triverse historic relations of Nature
a n d Society, there is no necessity to throw dice at all; furthermore,
it is not pertinent to play roulette, in order to decide whether Spring
comes "after" Summer, or Autumn "before" Winter in the Tropics, or at the
ozoneless South Pole. That's it, for tonight, folks! This was just a general,
pioneering, front line epigenetic introduction.
BYE! BYE!
naranjahit:sorry Jutta and Franz,
I am verry exhausted and can not concentrate me any more, I have to go
to sleep.
panta98:At any event, I'm
finish now, Stella.
juttaschmi:Okay,
Stella. It is already very late in Germany.
juttaschmi:We
will continue next Tuesday with this very topic, I suggest.
panta98:We too, it was a
great pleasure. When you are awake agin, calmlyread the manuscript again.
I'll send it off to everybody just now!
juttaschmi:Alright,
Franz.
juttaschmi:Stella,
go and get a good night sleep; I hope you don't have to get up too early
tomorrow morning.
panta98:"Gute" Nacht! Stella!
naranjahit:ok I will do this
Franz! have a nice rest
juttaschmi:Sweet
paranormal dreams.
juttaschmi:Take
care and until next time, Stella.
panta98:Greetings to Iris,
and to Franz Bender in Freiburg!
juttaschmi:Who
is Franz Bender?
naranjahit:Thank you, ich hoffe
es werden nicht wieder Alpträume draus.
panta98:Also to Kaiserlein!
panta98:Bye!
naranjahit:Freiburger Parapsycho
oder?
juttaschmi:Aha.
Thanks for clarification. Bye bye, Stella and Franz.
panta98:The great parapsychologist
of Freiburg, world renowned!
naranjahit:bye!
panta98:Bye!
naranjahit has left
the room.
juttaschmi:Wow!
Know your parapsychological experts.
panta98:Bye!
juttaschmi:*juttaschmi
has left the room through the wall*
panta98:Yes!
juttaschmi has left
the room.
panta98:Look, she's
gone! Through the Fire-Wall!!!
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