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John Gamble, Edward Garner, Peter Gillies,
Israel Glance, Robert Grinter,

Gamble

John Gamble 1812 - 1893, son of Lucia Annie Michie and James Gamble, arrived in Melbourne on the Kent July 1865, ref P/2

Thanks to the efforts by sent in several emails early in 2009, The husband of Catherine Jane Graham, John Gamble, appears to have died before the family left Tyrone, Ireland,
ROD comments - Aveline Gamble has never been able to find a a record of John Gamble's death in Tyrone but he is presumed to have died somewhere between 1844-1852. Aveline writes - From the London Times of May 22, 1852 an ad mentions the Mirzapore:- Port Philip, the MIRZAPORE, 1,400 tons, to sail June 5. John's older sister Mary had preceded them (around 1849) and married *James Curry from Co.Tyrone in Dec 1851 at Scots Church, Melbourne.

Two weeks after the 'Mirzapore' arrived, Jane Gamble nee Graham married Andrew Curry, father of *James Curry on 26th Oct, 1852 at the Wesleyan Church, Melbourne. Andrew was a widower who came to Port Phillip from Co. Tyrone in 1849. (2 sons and 2 daughters had preceded him in 1842. Another son had accompanied him to Australia in 1849. I would think that they all would have known each other in Ireland..

Jane Gamble wed Andrew Curry - the record is duplicated
Although JANE CATHERINE appears to still be known as Jane at this time, she was buried as Church of England, CATHERINE JANE CURRY in Greta Cemetery 19-2-1891 aged 85 having lived 39 years in Australia. Interestingly Daughter MARY nee GAMBLE CURRY was buried in the same cemetery as Primitive Methodist just a few days later 28-2 1891 aged 58, which tallies with her age of 15 in 1849 when she arrived as servant on 'THE SEA' with who would become her stepfather, Andrew Curry.

Another arrival Unassisted shipping - the Mirzapore came 12 Oct 1852 with Jane Gambell 40, John Gambell 14 and William Gambell 12.

2 Children 1. John Nathaniel Gamble 1840, and died 1904 at Benalla aged 65
2. William Graham Gamble 1845, died at Malvern 1897 #2156 aged 52.
1. John Nathaniel Gamble born in Tyrone, Ireland 1840 and died 1904 at Benalla aged 65, wed 1870 to Jane Weston 1854 - 1943, Children born in Benalla The Gravestone at Winton Cemetery reads "in loving memory of my husband JOHN GAMBLE died Aug 20th 1904 age 65 years also our sons EDWARD THOMAS who died 7th Dec 1911 age 24 years JAMES ROBERT killed in France Oct 8th 1917 age 33 years CLEMENCE HENRY killed in France Oct 4th 1917 age 22 years also JANE wife of John Gamble 1854 ? 1943 a loving wife and mother "
13 Children 1. William Graham Gamble 1871 #14303 - 1926 aged 55
2. Ellen Gamble 1873 #7611 - 1955 aged 82
3. John Gamble 1875 #681 - 1957 aged 82
4. Mary Jane Gamble 1877 #6864 - 1964 aged 87
5. Margaret Victoria Gamble 1879-1963 wed in Tasmania to James Robert Lee
6. Catherine Gamble 1881 - 1957 aged 76
7. Robert James Gamble 1884 #608 - 8 Oct 1917 aged 33 KIA
8. Edward Thomas 1886 #8057 - 7 Dec 1911 aged 24
9. Neil Evans Gamble 1888 #17775 - 1954 aged 66
10. Harvey Lewis Sidney Gamble 1890 #19870 - 1963 aged 72
11. Hilda Selina Har Gamble 1893 #914 - 1925 aged 32
12. Clemence Henry Gamble 1895 #9438 - 4 October 1917 aged 22 KIA,
13. Edna Wishart Grace Gamble 1898 #24118 - 1925 aged 26
1. William Graham Gamble 1871 wed 1897 to Edith Hannah Broadstock
5 Children 1. Doris Margaret Gamble 1898
2. Edith Mary Gamble 1900
3. Constance Lilian Gamble 18 Apr 1902 - 1975
4. William Graham Gamble 1904
5. John Nathaniel Gamble 1907
3. Constance Lilian Gamble 18 Apr 1902 - 1975 wed 1920 to Charles Grant Taylor

3. John Gamble 1875 wed 1897 #4932 to Annie Phillis Mcphee, no chn found
5. Margaret Victoria Gamble 1879-1963 wed in Tasmania to James Robert Lee
there were 4 Tasmanian born children (all deceased)
1. Gordon Lee, wed Alice Dennis
2. Leslie Lee wed Beverly Wing
3. Margaret Pearl Lee (Drowned in the Leven River, Gunns Plains, Tas)
4. Douglas James Lee wed Faye Rodman.
7. Robert James Gamble 1884 #608 - 8 Oct 1917 aged 33 KIA, No 6055 in 24 Infantry Battalion, buried at Belgium 113 Birr Cross Roads Cemetery Zillebeke Service record can be viewed here
10. Harvey Lewis Sidney Gamble 1890 #19870 - 1963 aged 72, bricklayer, of Winton North, via Benalla, joined up 24 Jul 1915, No 4494 in the 13 Infantry Battalion - 13 to 18 Reinforcements (December 1915 - May 1916) Service record can be viewed here
12. Clemence Hy Gamble 1895 #9438 - 4 October 1917 aged 22 KIA, 6500, 5 Infantry Battalion - 13 to 23 Reinforcements, buried at Belgium 88 Aeroplane Cemetery Ypres Service record can be viewed here

2. William Graham Gamble 1845 - 1897 #2156 aged 52, died at Malvern, wed 1879 #4715 to Alice Eva Hilder. Alice died 1883 aged 23 at Alfred Hospital,
2 Children 1. Emily Harriet Gamble 1880
2. Leslie Graham Gamble 1882

From web site trying to identify Sgt Major Robert John Gamble (who does not appear to be related to this family) - But taking into account the time between the Crimean War and WWI, could we be looking for the Sergeant-Major's grandsons rather than sons? There are two brothers who might fight the bill, both hail from Victoria (Winton North about 200km NE of Melbourne). One even has the same given names. They are:

1. Private Robert James Gamble, 6055, 24th Bn Australian Infantry. Born Winton North, Victoria, enlisted 8 September 1916 in Cootamundra NSW aged 32 years 8 months, killed in action 8 October 1917 in Belgium. He was a carpenter by trade.

2. Private Clemence Henry Gamble, 6500, 5th Bn Australian Infantry. Born Winton North, Victoria; enlisted 13 July 1916 in Melbourne at 21 years 2 months; killed in action 4th October 1917 in Belgium at age 22. He was a farmer by trade but had some military service in the Benalla district (details illegible). He saw action at places including Bullecourt in France, where he helped get his cousin and fellow Winton boy Victor Green, 6498, 5th Bn, onto a stretcher after he was wounded.

A 3rd brother also served in WWI but lived to come home: Sergeant Harvey Lewis Gamble, 4494, 54th Bn, enlisted 24 July 1915 at age 25, returned to Australia on 12 May 1918. He was a bricklayer by trade.

All three Gamble brothers were unmarried and listed their mother Jane Gamble nee Weston as their next of kin, their father John Nathaniel Gamble having died on 20 August 1904 aged 65 years. Jane must have had a difficult time: a memorial in Winton cemetary records the deaths of not only her husband and the two sons above, but also her son Edward Thomas Gamble died 7 March 1911 aged 24 and two daughters Hilda Gamble died 9 March 1925 age 32 and Edna Gamble died 20 April 1925 aged 26. Jane herself died in 1943 at about age 89 (she was born 1853/54)

A Rootswb entry
Also in memory of Victor Green, son of Robert Henry & Anna.... Died of wounds 22/04/1917 , France. Aged 21.
Also in memory of Clem Gamble from Winton Vic, killed in action 4th Oct 1917 in France and his brother Robert James Gamble killed in action 8th October 1917 in France. (cousins of Victor).

Israel Gamble

Israel King Gamble 1883 #19097 son of Amelia Kerswill wed 1882 #4589 to Joseph Charles Gamble from Leicester, born in Melb wed 1911 #3367 to Emily Jane Johns 1872 #16905 dau of Jane Blaney wed 1869 #2737 to Isaac Johns born at kangaroo Flat, and lived at Musk Vale.
2 Children 1. Wilfred Isabel Gamble 1912 #5791
2. Edwin Chas Gamble 1912 #32806

Garner

Edward Garner 1815 - 1868 #8478 aged 53 from Norfolk, son of Hannah Codlaw and Edward Garner,came from Cambridgeshire in July 1852 on the London with Anna Maria Gowler 1826 - 1871 #3428 aged 45, daughter of Mary Ann Hudson and James Gowler, and Edward and Wm Hy and lived at Winchelsea
5 Children 1. William Henry Garner c1848
2. Edward Garner c1852 wed 1877 #2576 to Margaret Thomas
3. Robert Garner c1854 wed 1879 #2621 to Lydia Thomas
4. Jacob Garner 1857 #15650
5. Emma Garner 1860 #14737 wed 1881 #2235 to George Howarth
6. Victoria Garner 1864 #1116 wed 1889 #5087 to Jas Hy Chapman
1. William Henry Garner c1848 wed 1869 #734 to Margaret Greening Brough and lived at Cobden
4 children 1. Matilda Ann Garner 1870 #7720
2. Martha Greening Garner wed 1899 #3403 to Geo Silas Tarrant
3. Bessie Garner 1874 #1360
4. Williamena Garner 1876 #8233
5. William Henry Garner 1878 #7920
2. Edward Garner c1852 wed 1877 #2576 to Margaret Thomas from Wales and lived at Camperdown
5 children 1. Lydia Garner 1878 #7249
2. Edward Joel Garner 1879 #14265
3. John Garner 1882 #14249 lived 1 month
4. Margaret Garner 1888 #9286
5. John Garner 1890 #10548
3. Robert Garner c1854 wed 1879 #2621 to Lydia Thomas from Wales and lived at Cobden
7 children 1. James Edward Garner 1880 #7608
2. Ada Mary Garner 1883 #8078
3. Lydia Garner 1884 #23430
4. Robert Garner 1887 #9852
5. Jessie Garner 1889 #20234
6. Winifred Garner 1892 #1799 also 1892 #2655
7. Walt Chas Thos Garner 1895 #1575
3. Lydia Garner, daughter of Robert Garner and Lydia Thomas, 1884 #23430 - 1923 #4795 aged 39, born in Cobden and died in Carlton, wed 1918 #8621 as third wife to John Patrick Degraaff 1885 - 1963.
1 Child 1. Norman Degraaff 1919 #13342 - 1923 #3979 aged 4, born at West Hotham died at Ballan.
5. Emma Garner 1860 #14737 - 1892 #6877 aged 31, died at Kew L Asy, wed 1881 #2235 to George Howarth from Tasmania, and lived at Colac
5 Children 1. Alice May Howarth 1886 #25116 lived 21 days
2. Victoria Beatrice Howarth 1885 #4997 lived 3 months
3. Enos Howarth 1888 #19159 wed 1908 #6926 to Hart Reid
4. Geo Howarth 1890 #21619 lived 20 days
5. Ethel Eva Howarth 1892 #2754 lived 1 month
6. Victoria Garner 1864 #1116 wed 1889 #5087 to James Henry Chapman 1865 #7600 - 1930 #9143 aged 66, born and lived at Colac
5 Children 1. Leo Archibald Garner Chapman 1890 #31279
2. James Henry Chapman 1892 #2764
3. Phil Regd Chapman 1894 #10769 - 1901 #9190 lived 7 years
4. Herbt Eric Chapman 1901 #10173
5. Victor Chapman 1906 #25781

Gillies

Peter Gillies from Aberdeen wed 1869 #3052 to Mary Ann Marsh and went to New South Wales till c1879 then lived at Scarsdale in Victoria
5 Children 1. Mary A Gillies 1871 in NSW
2. Christine Rosemond Gillies 1880 #5005
3. John Haddel Gillies 1883 #5402
4. William Edmund Gillies 1885 #21358
5. Rona May Isabel Gillies 1888 #24597

1. Mary Ann Gillies 1871 - 1934 #15521 aged 63, wed 1888 #980 to William Currie 1866 #7038 and lived at Carngham, then Smythesdale, 10 children.

4. William Edmund Gillies 1885 #21358 wed 1911 #2825 to Emily Alice Warne 1885 #24674

Glance

Marriages Sep 1858 - Isidore Glance and Rebecak Abicicis at London City Vol 1c page 275

Israel Glance 1839 - 1903 #6970 aged 65 died at Mordialloc, came c1869 with Rebecca Abicicis 1840 - 1923 #7942 aged 83, parents unknown, from Leeds with children, settled at Hotham

13 Children 1. Lewis (Levi) Glance 1860 - 1913 #2577 aged 53
2. Woolf Glance 1861 - 1943 #3907 aged 82, wed 1888 #4339 to Minnie Greaves
3. Solomon Glance 1868 - 1938 #7140 aged 70, wed 1890 #1993 to Jessie Aarons
4. Amelia Glance c1866 wed 1895 #5220 to Benjamin Aarons
5. Jacob Glance 1870 #17666
6. Rachel Glance 1871 - 1877 #8352 lived 6 years
7. Lily Glance 1873 #25407 wed 1896 #7514 to George Henderson born in SA
8. Rosa Glance 1873 #25408 wed 1896 #1468R to Thos Jos Preacher
9. Henry Glance 1875 #24426 - 1942 #2534 aged 67
10. Leah Glance 1878 #16665
11. Sarah Glance 1880 #10233
12. Ruth Glance 1882 #17616 - 1896 #2874 aged 13 died at Melb Hosp
13. Albert Glance 1886 #4706 wed Merriam Lewis
1. Lewis ( Lues, Levi) Glance 1860 - 1913 #2577 aged 53, wed 1885 #3256 to Jane Grace Margaret Allan 1862 #1641 - 1894 #6909 aged 32, only Victorian-born child of Grace Cooper and John Allan,
Lewis Glance wed 1895 #6903 to Ada Louisa Ward 1875 #18408 - 1953 #1830 aged 76, daughter of Louisa Eliz Chald/Chalk and Jno Esnue/Ewen
4 Children 1. Israel Allan Glance 1888 #29372 lived 10 months
2. Lilian Ida Louise Glance 1897 #5126
3. Louis Hy Glance 1898 #11008 - 1982 #18975 aged 84
4. Rebecca Violet Glance 1899 #11500
4. Rebecca Violet Glance 1899 - 1951 #13060 aged 52, died at Paynesville, wed 1918 #8935 to Leslie Clarence Frusher 1899 #6753, 1 child
2. Woolf Glance 1861 - 1943 #3907 aged 82, wed 1888 #4339 to Minnie Greaves nee Asher 1867 - 1945 #9333 aged 78, daughter of Mary Ann McKenzie and John Asher
4 Children 1. Bertha Glance 1887 #14302R wed 1912 #3042 to Hy Stamford Hyde
2. Woolf Norman Glance 1893 #25961
3. Carl Abraham Glance 1898 #22508
4. Bertha Glance 1903 #19595
3. Solomon Glance 1868 - 1938 #7140 aged 70, wed 1890 #1993 to Jessie Aarons 1873 - 1960 #12750 aged 87, daughter of Sarah Davis and Morris Aarons of Leeds,
3 Children 1. Rebecca Glance 1890 #19555
2. Eveline Glance 1891 #25537
3. Alf Maurice Glance 1895 #30069 - 1980 #12578 aged 85
4. Amelia Nellie) Glance c1866 wed 1895 #5220 to Benjamin Aarons from Leeds
3 Children 1. Frances Aarons 1896 #12337
2. Henry Morris Aarons 1903 #3938 lived 1 month
3. David Spanier Aarons 1904 #3666
7. Lily Glance 1873 #25407 wed 1896 #7514 to George Henderson and lived at Albert Park
1 Child 1. Rose Henderson 1898 #21
8. Rosa Glance 1873 #25408 wed 1896 #1468R to Thos Jos Preacher 1865 - 1900 #5120 aged 35, 1 son

Grinter

Robert Grinter 1842 - 1907 #8749 aged 65, son of Ann and Joseph Grinter from Somersetshire, wed 1866 #288 to Susan Green 1849 - 1933 #18237 aged 84, daughter of Barbara Dean and William Henry Green born possibly in South Australia, and lived at Stawell
12 Children 1. Selina Grinter 1871 - 1889 #9971 aged 17
2. Mary Grinter 1872 #2200
3. Joseph Robert Grinter 1874 #11114 - 1935 #15197 aged 61
4. William Henry Grinter 1876 #11248 - 1930 #12023 aged 54
5. David Grinter 1878 #24720 - 1940 #20697 aged 62
6. Robt Grinter 1880 #17895 lived 1 year
7. Susan Grinter 1882 #19435
8. George Grinter 1884 #20788 - 1947 #17690 aged 62
9. Charles Arthur Grinter 1887 #7051
10. Frank Peter Grinter 1889 #7799
11. Jas Grinter 1890 #36758 - 1957 #11097 aged 66
12. Flor Grinter 1892 #36648
4. William Henry Grinter 1876 #11248 - 1930 #12023 aged 54, wed 1900 #6403 to Hananh Smith Llewellyn nee Carr 1872 #4662 - 1950 #8517 aged 78, and lived at Hamilton
4 Children 1. Wm David Grinter 1900 #27018
2. Amy Castles Grinter 1902 #10840
3. Eva Grinter 1904 #10719
4. Josine Grinter 1908 #14969
5. David Grinter 1878 #24720 - 1940 #20697 aged 62, wed 1909 #6322 to Alice Maud Perry 1885 #13824 - 1980 #6801 daughter of Caroline Davidson wed 1878 #4797 to John Perry, born at Stawell
2 Children 1. Maud Elizth Grinter 1915 #17938
2. David Ernt Grinter 1918 #21872
7. Susan Grinter 1882 #19435 wed 1908 #4091 to Jno Robert Peter Boyd 1873 #23955 son of Elizabeth Jones wed 1863 #839 to John Boyd, born at Eurobin
8. George Grinter 1884 #20788 - 1947 #17690 aged 62, wed 1911 #6654 to Margt Rachel Traynor 1886 #15227 - 1974 #6213 aged 87, lived at Ararat
2 Children 1. Edna May Grinter 1916 #25989
2. Geo Raymond Grinter 1920 #37
9. Charles Arthur Grinter 1887 #7051 wed 1914 #9487 to Alice Ethel Maude Squire
2 Children 1. Chas Walter Grinter 1915 #35179
2. Trevor Hy Grinter 1917 #12113
10. Frank Peter Grinter 1889 #7799 wed 1914 #5228 to Cath Isobella Seater 1890 - 1975 #15270 aged 85, lived at Ararat
3 Children 1. Cath Albertha Grinter 1914 #33854
2. Susan May Grinter 1917 #84
3. Marg Grinter 1919 #8167
11. James Grinter 1890 #36758 - 1957 #11097 aged 66 wed 1910 #1584 to Ethel Spear 1889 - 1963 #4725 aged 74, daughter of Janet Sneddon and Richard Spears
7 Children 1. Ethel Flor Grinter 1910 #17417
2. Robt Jas Grinter 1911 #30788
3. Ada May Grinter 1912 #32901
4. Myra Grinter 1914 #6259
5. Joseph Robt Grinter 1915 #15170
6. Harold Richard Grinter 1916 #32117 lived 2 years
7. Alfred Grinter 1919 #29669
Florence Grinter 1892 #36648 - 1971 #8619, born in Stawell and died in Maryborough, wed 1917 #2124 to Percy Claude Howlett 1891 and lived at Maryborough then at Chiltern
2 children 1. Robert Ernest Howlett 1918 #12952 - 1949 #20402
2. Joan Howlett 1920 #5268.

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