Velvt>>). hello again eternum

SunRaven2 greetings eternum

SunRaven2 how you like your weather Gardener *ducks*

gardener4 so far so good

SunRaven2 you mean you havent gotten this nasty stuff we have down here ?

EternumPace>>> HNIWSH...i do not deny but freely admit that this "VP" could quickly become some kindof religion for me. there being, in this multiverse, such an array of people who share this world with me despite

EternumPace>>> much evidence to the contrary

Velvt>>). or up here

SunRaven2 vp can become quite addictive eter

gardener4 no but its alaround us only a matter of time unless I get lucky

Velvt>>). i agree, etern... i encounter and interact with people here, interesting people, that i'd never have met otherwise

SunRaven2 weather showed it streaming up there

Velvt>>). sugar, the woman you were talking to in CC, is an excellent example

EternumPace>>> in fact, in all the history of world, has there ever been such a querilous mountain of evidence against all things communal as this device we so easily call digital communication?

Velvt>>). evidence AGAINST all things comunal? explain please

gardener4 yea but its spinning around me and missing me so far but the clouds came in about dark

gardener4 hello etern

SunRaven2 geez it has been horrible here

EternumPace>>> Velvt>>), for our senses could not, on the one hand, be ever so dispatched from us as wherever is "here" and yet our tongues intertwine

Velvt>>). yes, so how is that against communal?

SunRaven2 BRB

Velvt>>). seems to me it enhances it

Velvt>>). communal = community = our online world

EternumPace>>> there is a sacrifice, as with all things

EternumPace>>> i sense a loss

Velvt>>). yes, there is

EternumPace>>> this is not necessarily bad

Velvt>>). the loss of touch, smell etc... the senses other than vision

Velvt>>). all forms of communication have limits

EternumPace>>> sacred rite courts loss if not doom at every chant, every subtle turn in the prism of light and motion

Velvt>>). loss of self awareness, perhaps?

EternumPace>>> a turn, corso recorso, into a a sortof proto neoPaleolithic mayhaps

SunRaven2 back

EternumPace>>> the desart of self, flickers still, at once closer, for some death has imparted such as whispers still, yet farther, somehow away on second sight

EternumPace>>> in the boolean theology we barbarically pound with our defunct digits

Velvt>>). you're straining too hard, eternum... it's interfering with communicating :)

EternumPace>>> a nautelus shell of our animal ancestors

EternumPace>>> it is a strain of music

Velvt>>). music to your own eyes/ears... and your words seem worth spending time with, but that isn't the way of chatting, interacting, communicating

Velvt>>). hi myst

MystHuntr MM and Greetings all

MystHuntr hi Velvt>>)

SunRaven2 Greetings Myst

MystHuntr Greetings Sun

SunRaven2 ((~>Long Warm BIG Squeeze U tight Pick U up off the floor Swing U around &around HUGz<~))

EternumPace>>> i don't think there are any experts here, if i may be so bold

Velvt>>). myst, feel like hopping up here to wisconsin and getting some good full body exercise?

MystHuntr Sun - swings and hugs to you too

Velvt>>). no, there aren't eternum, i agree

EternumPace>>> therefor i say again, HNIWSH

gardener4 hello Myst

MystHuntr Velvt>>) - sorry, but I don't plan on leaving Calif for quite a while

Velvt>>). and your style is your style, i'm simply giving you my observations. my brain doesn't extract ideas quickly from your prose poetry

MystHuntr hello Gardener

Velvt>>). what is HNIWSH?

SunRaven2 lol just wants your muslces Myst

Velvt>>). yeah, myst... big time !

Velvt>>). i have 100 ft of driveway with over 15" of snow on it, and my plow guy quit

SunRaven2 really nice av Myst

MystHuntr lol, what muscles, I look like a starved snake

Velvt>>). lol @ starved snake

EternumPace>>> HNIWSH is a sound I disocered in the hum of chatter I have encountered here

Velvt>>). i like that concept, eternum

Velvt>>). i like the sensory crossing, also

EternumPace>>> the sound of serious data processors prophesying the future

Velvt>>). hmmm... you mean the computer sounds?

EternumPace>>> oracle

EternumPace>>> the sounds you make, all of you, all that is you

Velvt>>). heard with your inner ear?

EternumPace>>> for surely such strain knows no limit in extent nor proportion

Velvt>>). i am more of a visual and spacially oriented person

EternumPace>>> Our tribe once called it, "YAHWEH"

Velvt>>). so when i get into an intense, deep chat with someone i feel as if a space has opened up, and we are meeting there, in this vast universe available to us. i forget about the computer

EternumPace>>> that sounds utterly beautiful

Velvt>>). it is... it feels as if two people from opposite sides of the globe can simply extend a hand and touch the other person.

Velvt>>). you feel them, then

EternumPace>>> jerusalem is builded then, within these satanic walls -PB Shelley

Velvt>>). it helps that i have a good imagination too... LOL... i always have liked escaping the everyday world

EternumPace>>> this room is different than that christian one, it lumbers gracefully now where once it zigged like the luminous fibres of a particle accelerator

Velvt>>). until some people come in here, bringing too much of CC with them, this room is very different :)

EternumPace>>> one migh say this room is bipedal

Velvt>>). the lumbering might just be me... some here fly

Velvt>>). i'll brb... i need to get water and coffee

EternumPace>>> i have an observation to share which may me of some import to some. I once viewed the norther lights from the 50 degrees north latitude

EternumPace>>> <crickets chirping>

EternumPace>>> someone called me a "nazi" today. I took offense, of course, which just goes to show how transpersonal and hence, religious, is that story we call history

EternumPace>>> did not Teillard De Chardin, the french theologian/anthropologist postulate that hominization and history were related or was that Yeats?

Velvt>>). i don't recall

EternumPace>>> come to think of it, mayhaps that was I. no matter.

Velvt>>). and i'm back for a bit :)

Velvt>>). why did they call you a nazi?

EternumPace>>> i said that I loved sonnets (this was in the poetry cafe i think it is called)

Velvt>>). LOL... and they rejected the rigid structure?

EternumPace>>> someone chose to recant a so called ethnocentric manifesto on the "sonnet", which I rather liked despite its pomposity

Velvt>>). a poetry nazi, cleansing the chat universe of unpure verse

Velvt>>). i've seen an awful lot of what i consider bad poetry in that room

Velvt>>). hey tara

Tahara-Star hello

SunRaven2 hey tahara

Tahara-Star =o)

EternumPace>>> i don't think there is anyone alive to today that has not been at both ends of the kill or be killed, hate or be hated magnetic pole

MystHuntr hey there Tahara

Tahara-Star hi myst

EternumPace>>> i rather elevate the cultural imagination for that reason alone at times

Velvt>>). hmmm... i don't know that i agree, etern... i don't think most people experience that degree of negative passion in their lives

EternumPace>>> afterall, the Ark doesn't have any life boats

EternumPace>>> history is not wanting for examples of such

Velvt>>). i know that i have never experienced anything close to kill or be killed... except perhaps over emotional or self identity boundaries, but even then, i don't think it went that far

EternumPace>>> you have lived many lives, as have we all

Velvt>>). true, and i may have faced it in other lives

EternumPace>>> there exists not one babe in arms who has not murdered

Velvt>>). dang... brb again... the dog is into something

EternumPace>>> has anyone here ever seen the northern lights?

SunRaven2 Hugs Gwyn

Tahara-Star hi gywn

Gwynhyvar Hugs Sunny

gardener4 hello Gwyn

Gwynhyvar Allo everyone :-)

Gwynhyvar TS, Gardener :-)

MystHuntr Allo Gwyn

EternumPace>>> "the northern lights have seen strange sights but the queerest they ever did see was the night on the marge of lac lebarge I cremated sam mcgee"

Tahara-Star this av is one of the new ones

Gwynhyvar Allo Myst *kisses cheek8

Tahara-Star when you get the new VP

EternumPace>>> <robert service>

Tahara-Star I kind of like it

Velvt>>). back... interesting quote there, etern

Velvt>>). hi gwyn

Gwynhyvar Hi Vel :)

Velvt>>). i've seen the northern lights, and when they are intense, and you are alone in the silent night, i can understand why the inuit believe the are the ghosts of ancestors

EternumPace>>> what latitude are you at or were you at roundabout?

Gwynhyvar oooooooo....saw the northern lights up here a couple weeks ago

Velvt>>). i think i'm at 46 degrees, etern

SunRaven2 oh wow gwyn - haven seen them since i lived in WA

EternumPace>>> interesting

Velvt>>). hi rosie

Gwynhyvar we see them quite often up here

EternumPace>>> someone told me once that they don't go below say 60

Tahara-Star hi rosie

SunRaven2 (~*~Rosie sissy huggss~*~)

Rosie1950 hi Velvt>>)

Gwynhyvar Hugs Rosie

EternumPace>>> where is "here", Gwyn?

Gwynhyvar lol....ont cda

Rosie1950 hi tahara-sorry about sitting on you

Rosie1950 (~*~ Sunny sissy huggss~*~)

Tahara-Star no its ok

Rosie1950 hugs gwyn

Velvt>>). that could well be, etern... i saw them in california, twice, but they were only in the northern half of the sky

gardener4 hello Rosie

EternumPace>>> 46, so you are near or near the same latitude of the southern tip of Lake Huron, Gwyn??

Velvt>>). here they can go overhead

MystHuntr Hey there Rosie

Rosie1950 hi gardener

Rosie1950 hey myst

gardener4 hello Tahara

Velvt>>). 46 was me, and i'm at the western tip of lake superior

Gwynhyvar something like that .......close to Ottawa

Tahara-Star hi gardner

Tahara-Star this new version of vp has great graphics

Velvt>>). they are certainly better, tara

EternumPace>>> oh. well that is good information. I saw them around 50 latitude and thought that was unique

Tahara-Star I lost all on my hard drive, I jusr re formated

Velvt>>). yuck, tara... i'm afraid i may have to do that... so i'm still busy backing up in case

EternumPace>>> i heard that about the inuit

EternumPace>>> ,Velvt>>)

Tahara-Star I had a virus , I found out the other night, and when I tried to remove it , it ate up my windows

Velvt>>). yikes

Velvt>>). i worried i had gotten one, but i did a scan and it came up clean

Tahara-Star I downloaded a virus scaner and it killed me

Tahara-Star I got AVG, its pretty good, just this worm was real bad

EternumPace>>> I use McAfee VirusScan. it has worked well

Tahara-Star I am not even going to get avs for awhile

MystHuntr same here

Gwynhyvar I`m lucky.....the old puter I picked up a different virus every other week........I bought a p4 and haven`t had a problem since

Tahara-Star they say 1 in every 4 has one

Tahara-Star can you get virus from recieving gest?

Velvt>>). yes !

Gwynhyvar lol.....I don`t even have a virus scan...<covers mouth>

EternumPace>>> biohistorically, have not viruses been catalysts for our evolution?

Velvt>>). gwyn, there is an online one that seems pretty good and they keep it up to date

MystHuntr I don't think so, gestures are based on data not a program

Tahara-Star what about getting a av

Tahara-Star ?

Gwynhyvar I`ve been meaning to pick one up.....just haven`t made it that far yet

Tahara-Star doesnt it have to be an exe file to carry a virus?

MystHuntr nope, viruses can only attach themselves to a program, not a picture

EternumPace>>> i believe william burroughs was interested at one time in the viral element inherent in all communication

MystHuntr it needs to be executeable code

Rosie1950 good to know myst- always worried

Velvt>>). viruses are amazing things, all right

EternumPace>>> certainly, all communication utilizes a "host" organism of some kin

EternumPace>>> kind

Tahara-Star this one ate my system tray when I teird to get rid of it

Tahara-Star it was called worm verona

EternumPace>>> perhaps that host is called God by some or all

Velvt>>). perhaps life came to this planet from cometary space dust carrying viruses

Gwynhyvar oooo good theory

EternumPace>>> viruses are incrediblly resilient, like the navy seals of microscopic existence

pinkphyre hi all

Rosie1950 hi pink

pinkphyre hugggggggggssssssss sun

pinkphyre huggggggssssss gardner

SunRaven2 Hey Pinksss

Velvt>>). gwyn, a few months ago a scottish scientist proved that space dust falls on our planet... at the rate of 5 tons a year, i think he said

EternumPace>>> burroughs postulated that there was a virus in the dawn of human consciousness, he used the story of the garden of eden

SunRaven2 hows you new place??

pinkphyre GREAt!!!!!!!!

Tahara-Star I dont even want to accept anything from anyone unless I know they dont have one

SunRaven2 i am soooooooo jealous pinky

pinkphyre hehe...WE HAVE A POOL

pinkphyre and a hot tup

Tahara-Star its like asking someone you want to sleep with to get an aids test

pinkphyre tub

Velvt>>). i'm jealous of gwyn and her P4

MystHuntr MM Pink

Gwynhyvar lol.....I gave up on tv....all the info I get is from the papers...

Gwynhyvar LOL

gardener4 hello pinky

Tahara-Star whats p4?

Gwynhyvar don`t be......the sound card is pooched

Velvt>>). pentium 4, tara

EternumPace>>> b4p4 there wuz p3

Velvt>>). well, the sound card is a different issue, would vary by brand

SunRaven2 weather warm enuf to use the pool pink?

Gwynhyvar although I shouldn`t complain......I have a 3 yr warranty on software alone *WEG*

Tahara-Star is that a type of computer?

pinkphyre almost

pinkphyre it was around 60 or 70

pinkphyre lol

EternumPace>>> Gwyn, you should race a p2 on a reboot

EternumPace>>> a properly configed p2 could give you a run for your money

Gwynhyvar nah...I`m no computer whiz

Velvt>>). tara, it's the central processing chip, which determines how fast your computer is, basically, and how much can be loaded onto it

Tahara-Star oh ty

Rosie1950 hi Epona

pinkphyre brb...I need to check on the boys

Gwynhyvar brb

__Epona__ Mae govannen!

Tahara-Star hi epona

Velvt>>). wow... epona ! LONG time !

__Epona__ Velvt>>)! Good to see you again!

Velvt>>). hi sean

Pendragon.of.Britain Greetings all

Rosie1950 Hi Sean

SunRaven2 Greetings Sean

__Epona__ Hello.

Tahara-Star hi sean

gardener4 hello Pen

SunRaven2 hi epona

MystHuntr Greetings Sean

Pendragon.of.Britain I hope I'm not entirely on top of anyone on their screen; I'm not on mine

MystHuntr MM Epona

__Epona__ MM and BB, Myst.

Tahara-Star not me

Velvt>>). not on mine either

Tahara-Star hi 284

Pendragon.of.Britain Greetings Epona . . . always an honour to have another Goddess amongus

Velvt>>). i was av restless sean, so you coming in was my clue what to change to LOL

Pendragon.of.Britain Tahara, how are you, m'dear?

__Epona__ <curtseys>

lm284 hello any one want to chat

Pendragon.of.Britain We are, Im, join in.

__Epona__ Isn't that what we're doing, Im?

Velvt>>). hi janie

Rosie1950 hi janie

Tahara-Star bushed... I finally had to re format and I am trying to get back my stuff, I lost sooo much

Pendragon.of.Britain aaah, Velvt>>); my favourite of your avs

janiepop hi all

__Epona__ Welcome, janie.

MystHuntr hey there Janie

Pendragon.of.Britain I"m sorry, Tahara. I have the avs I made for you

Velvt>>). i still haven't gotten tired of this one, either, sean... it has staying power

Tahara-Star morning janie

Gwynhyvar back

lm284 hi ta

MystHuntr Tahara - I got some kitty avs if you need them

Pendragon.of.Britain yes, it does

Tahara-Star I dont even have mega anymore

Pendragon.of.Britain ack, Tahara . . . you'll have to get that back

Gwynhyvar Allo Sean *kisses cheek*

janiepop Star hate to be picky lol it's about 1pm

Velvt>>). yes you do tara, it's built into the new version

Tahara-Star lol.. so its morning

Tahara-Star I do?

janiepop Star did you mail Sag ?

SunRaven2 hey janie

Pendragon.of.Britain How are you doing Rosie, Sunny and Myst?

janiepop how is everyone

Pendragon.of.Britain Hullo Janie

Velvt>>). that is a fine lookng eagle, etern... want to ease it up to the top?

janiepop hi Pen

EternumPace>>> toodles

Tahara-Star I lost about 400 mp3's.. and no janie I didnt my puter has been sick

Velvt>>). ah, fare well, etern... this has been enjoyable

Rosie1950 good here Sean ty

Pendragon.of.Britain that's a drag, Tahara . . . try Grokster

JasminScentedTanefer hello

janiepop that ain't sick sweets that more like terminal

SunRaven2 Gretings Jasmine

janiepop a terminal terminal eh

JasminScentedTanefer =)

Rosie1950 hi jasmine

MystHuntr hey there Jasmine

Tahara-Star vel where is the mega?.. hi jasmine

__Epona__ Welcome, Jasmine. Elen sla lúmenn' omentielvo.