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Conversation #032
Falling Stars
Here I am back again Truth Seeker,
You wrote:
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Rev. 6:12, 13 talks about the stars falling to EARTH, as figs fall when shaken by the wind. They fall to EARTH! ! ! My pastor is really trying to push the "dark day, Lisbon earthquake, meteor 1833 shower thing", but it doesn't fit what the prophecy tells!
Besides it continues that kings of THE EARTH and such will literally hide themselves in caves in mountains for fear of this horrific event! That didn't occur!
Also it is connected to Yahweh’s day of wrath, which occurs at Yeshua's second coming! Also i compared the 6th seal, 6th trumpet, and the 6th bowl; they seem to show different interpretations of the same event (2 contain information about the river Euphrates! )
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My answer is:-
The falling stars are one of the signs of His second coming as you so rightly point out and cannot completely fulfil the prophecy until just before that time when the rejecters rush to die by suicide.
Revelation 6:12-17
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; and the stars of heaven fell to the earth, even as a fig tree casts her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: for THE GREAT DAY of His wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"
We know that the book of the future was sealed with seven seals and is being progressively opened. These particular events occur when the sixth seal is broken and the prophecy contained in that portion becomes fact. So the sixth section of the book has not yet been opened. For with the falling stars comes the earthquake, the effects on the sun and moon, and the heaven (the blue atmosphere) departing.
ALL THESE THINGS ARE YET FUTURE.
That doesn’t stop them from having a partial fulfilment in other times such as 1755, 1833 etc. It’s just that THEY WILL BE REPEATED AT THE SECOND COMING close together. For EVERY mountain and island to be moved there must be great disruptions on earth. Consider this,
Hebrews 12:25-29
See that you refuse not Him that speaks. For if they escaped not who refused Him that spoke on earth [at Sinai], much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from Him that speaks from heaven [in the future].
Whose voice then shook the earth: but NOW HE HAS PROMISED, saying, "Yet ONCE MORE I shake not the earth only, but also heaven."
And this word, "Yet once more" [meaning ONLY once more], signifies the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: for our God is a consuming fire. [Deuteronomy 4:24]
Here we are told that when He spoke the words of the Ten Commandments at Sinai the whole area shook so much that even Moses was frightened. See verse 21. When He speaks them AGAIN just before the second coming the WHOLE WORLD AND OUR SOLAR SYSTEM will shake so much that only those things connected to eternity will stand. That’s why it’s only once more, and all man-made things and ideas will depart leaving only the bare truth.
The voice of God the Father will be heard from heaven, declaring the day and hour of Jesus' coming (Matthew 24:36), and delivering the everlasting covenant of the Ten Commandments to His people. Like peals of loudest thunder His words will roll through the earth for all to hear. This will cause major disruptions to a sinful world, and even affect the atmosphere, for it is declared that the air will roll up from one side like a scroll leaving behind the blackness of solar space. (Our whole solar system has been affected by sin.) We won’t need earthly air to keep alive from that time on because Christ will be our life.
As the earth rolls backwards and forwards and shudders violently, it will look as though the stars in that blackness are falling onto the earth. This will not be a meteor shower but the whole sky appearing to move. Just like the sun appears to move today when we know that it is really the earth turning, only this will not be a smooth operation but a rather hectic one!
After a while the church of God will stand listening, with their eyes fixed upward. Their countenances will be lighted up with His glory, and will shine as did the face of Moses when he came down from Sinai. The wicked will not be able to look upon them. And when the blessing is pronounced on those who have honoured God by keeping His Sabbath holy, there will be a mighty shout of victory. 1 Corinthians 15:56.
Soon there will appear in the east a small black cloud, about half the size of a man's hand. It is the cloud which surrounds the Saviour and which seems in the distance to be shrouded in darkness. The people of God will know this to be the sign of the Son of man. Matthew 24:30-31. In solemn silence they will gaze upon it as it draws nearer the earth, becoming lighter and more glorious, until it is a great white cloud, its base shining with a glory like consuming fire, and above it will be the rainbow of the covenant. Jesus rides forth as a mighty conqueror. Revelation 19:11-16.
It is at that time that the Ten Commandments will also appear in the sky showing God’s regard for them. This is not something that men will do, but is a vision from God for all to see.
Psalm 97:1-9
The LORD reigns; let the earth rejoice; let the multitude of isles be glad thereof. Clouds and darkness are round about Him: righteousness and judgment are the habitation of His throne. A fire goes before Him, and burns up His enemies round about.
His lightnings enlightened the world: the earth saw, and trembled. The hills melted like wax at the presence of the LORD, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth. THE HEAVENS DECLARE HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, and all the people SEE His glory [His character]. Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: "Worship Him, all you gods."
Zion heard, and was glad; and the daughters of Judah rejoiced because of Your judgments, O LORD. For You, LORD, are high above all the earth: You are exalted far above all gods.
We can look at the trumpets and bowls more fully next time.
Bye for now,
Ron
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To the reader,
If there is anything not clear to you as you read my answer, please feel free to mail me and ask about it. I promise not to send you anything but a direct answer to your question. I won't argue about it, just share with you what I have seen.
I won't ask you to join a new church or offshoot either!
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