The chart which follows details various lines of American descent branching from the emigrant generation--two brothers, SEBASTIAN LIEDEL and PHILIPP JACOB LIEDEL--and a third Liedel (a cousin), ANTON, whose descendants also made their way to Monroe. I have used the following scheme to indicate descent from the common ancestor.
MICHAEL LIEDEL
A) son
A] grandson
a) great-grandson
a] great great-grandson
A} great great great-grandson
a} great great great great-grandson
Please observe the different combinations of letters and shape of the
immediately following brackets before the names. This information
was copied from my Liedel master file and my direct ancestors are shown
in CAPITAL LETTERS. Since there was too much information to fit one
page, at least one that would make sense, where it seemed appropriate
I have linked the names of founders of U.S. lines to descent pages of
tbeir own. Major contributions to this effort were made by Don Leidel and Greg
Liedel, both of Monroe, MI.
The first two decades of the 18th century were hard ones for the Palatine, the broad plain and foothills bordering the Rhine river. It was, coincidentally, the same area which provided a great many of the first German emigrants to the English northern colonies, particularly the Hudson River valley of New York. The reason for the emigration of those early German Americans was in all likelihood the same one that brought Michael Liedel to Oestringen: the terrible winter of 1709, in which a good part of the Rhine valley froze, followed by a series of what were probably plagues through 1713. 1712 was the worst year, with 49 deaths (21, or nearly 50% in August) and the vacancies in Oestringen's skilled labor force provided the opening for an ambitious man to take his place in a new community. This is when Michael Liedel makes his first appearance.
The 1714 marriage record of Michale Liedel named MARTIN LIEDEL as his father, place of residence "Hochstadensis." There is a nearby place in Baden named Hochstetten (double "tt", near Graben), but Latin grammar adds possesives, so that both "-en" and "-sis" may be disregarded, yielding a birthplace of "Hochstadt." Unfortunately, there are a number of places in Germany with this name: the closest is southwest of Speyer (near Landau), but I have been unable to learn if a Martin Liedel lived there. Until better evidence is obtained, "Hochstadt" (wherever it was) will serve as the ultimate hone of our Liedel ancestors.
Michael Liedel, whenever he came, married a local girl and settled in for the rest of his life, although late in that life he considered emigrating to Hungary. His descendants would become numerous and endure in Oestringen until the Second World War.
For the German generations, only the line of direct descent is shown below. If you wish to know more, write me and I will send you something.
JOHANN MICHAEL LIEDEL
b c 1688 (Hochstadt ?, Hochstift Speyer)
d 28 Sept 1770 (Oestringen, Hochstift Speyer)
m ANNA MARGARETHA BERGER [321], 15 May 1714 (Oestringen)
bp 20 Jan 1695 (Oestringen, Hochstift Speyer)
d 16 Jan 1772 (Oestringen, Hochstift Speyer)
issue:
I) MATTHIAS (BERNARD) LIEDEL
bp 27 (bp 28) Mar 1728 (Oestringen, Hochstift Speyer)
d 16 Jan 1815 (Oestringen, Baden)
m MARIA BARBARA HIRSCH, 17 Jan 1758 (Oestringen)
bp 7 Feb 1727 (Oestringen, Hochstift Speyer)
d 1790
issue:
B] JOHANN JACOB LIEDEL
bp 24 Oct 1759 (Oestringen, Hochstift Speyer)
d 10 Feb 1809 (Oestringen, Baden)
m SALOME BENZ, 14 Oct 1794 (Oestringen)
bp 19 Sept 1768 (Oestringen, Hochstift Speyer)
d 29 Dec 1819 (Oestringen, Baden)
The two major lines of American descent branch from
sons of Johann Jacob Liedel. For more detailed information
than is showm below, click on their names. Only children
who survived to make the crossing are listed here.
issue:
a) JOHANN SEBASTIAN LIEDEL
bp 17 April 1796 (Oestringen, Baden, GER)
d 8 Nov 1886 (Monroe Co., MI)
m MARIA FRANCESCA HEINZMANN, 12 Nov 1820
b 26 May 1799 (Oestringen, Baden, GER)
d 2 Sept 1876 (Monroe Co., MI)
issue:
a] Salome Liedel
bp 29 Jan 1822 (Oestringen, Baden)
m Joseph Langle, 7 Nov 1843
b] Rienhard Liedel
bp 21 Feb 1824 (Oestringen, Baden)
d 6 Feb 1901 (London Twp., Monroe Co.)
m Maria Eva Weiss, 24 Jan 1853
b 24 July 1833
d 16 Feb 1887
f] ENGELBERT LIEDEL
b 17 Jan 1831 (Oestringen, Baden)
d 21 Aug 1911 (Maybee, Monroe Co., MI)
m MARIA ANNA STURM, 21 Oct 1856 (Monroe, MI)
b 15 Nov 1832 (Wurttemberg)
d 12 July 1908 (Maybee, MI)
g] Seraphina Liedel
bp 25 Aug 1832 (Oestringen, Baden)
d 20 July 1926 (Monroe, Monroe Co., MI)
m John W. Reisig
b 1832 (Breitenau, Bavaria)
d 13 Nov 1882 (Monroe, MI)
h] Johannes [John] Liedel
b 13 July 1835 (Oestringen, Baden)
d Sept 1897 (Highland, Madison Co., IL)
m Katherine Barbara Hoffmann, 1863
h) Philipp Jacob Liedel
bp 6 Oct 1798 (Oestringen, Baden, GER)
d 22 Sept 1885 (Monroe Co., MI)
m Maria Julianna Hoffmann, 11 July 1820
b 10 Sept 1801
d 24 Dec 1833 (Oestringen, Baden, GER)
2m Julianna Beichel, 30 July 1834 (Osteingen)
issue:
h] Maria Anna Liedel
bp 15 Aug 1840 (Oestringen, Baden, GER)
k] Ferdinand Liedel
b 22 Nov 1843 (Oestringen, Baden, GER)
d 1915 (Monroe Co., MI)
m Christina
b July 1846
d 1915
m] Ludwig Liedel
b 20 Aug 1847 (Oestringen, Baden, GER)
m Agnes
b c1854
n] Ludovika [Louise] Liedel
b 30 Mar 1850 (Oestringen, Baden, GER)
C] Johann Liedel
bp 4 Mar 1761 (Oestringen, Hochstift Speyer)
d 10 Feb 1842 (Oestringen, Baden)
m Maria Eva Benz, 14 May 1786 (Oestringen)
b c 1761
d 26 Sept 1824 (Oestringen, Baden)
Our final American family begins with an uncle of
Sebastian and Philipp Jacob, whose grandson and great-
grandsons would come to the U.S. somewhat later and worked
in Ohio as indentured farmhands before eventually settling
in the Maybee area.
issue:
h) Johann Anton Liedel
b 20 Nov 1802 (Oestringen, Hochstift Speyer)
m Maria Catharina Gramlich, 19 Nov 1827
b c1805
d 7 May 1843 (Oestringen, Baden)
2m Theresia Schwartz?
Anton Liedel, husband of Theresia Schwarz, died
on January 15, 1844. I was unable to locate a
marriage record, to confirm that this was the man
described above.
issue:
d] Anton Liedel
bp 3 Aug 1837 (Oestringen, Baden)
m Agnes Hotz, 13 May 1862 (Oestringen)
b 19 April 1839 (Oestringen, Baden)
issue:
F} Johann Liedel
b 19 (bp 25) Mar 1871
G} Carl Liedel
b 9 (bp 11 ) July 1873
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