Speak of the Devil...



"Whatever you're expecting, expect a surprise!" -Ronald McDonald
You're not gonna believe this one, folks.

Okay, so when I got in at 1am ish last night (Sarah and I went over to the boys' house, ate their food, went on chat, and watched Shawshank Redemption) I made the silly decision to check the Internet, checked newsgroup and found some interesting posts from Remington and the gang. He made a joke about his middle name (which I won't get into) and I just had to say something... so I wrote back "Cheap name shot." and mentioned his joke somewhere else. Susan said that he'd prevail for only about eighty or ninety years and then die, I said back, "Good one!" and also made some joke somewhere about leaning on the side of evil. She said that she'd figured out I was evil from my posts (joke), stop, I was making her laugh too hard, I said never, that would be too nice. All a lot of fun.

The way to get a guy's attention must be to make fun of him, because I found this in my e-mail this morning!

It occurs to me, that in the cosmic scale of things, Livermore really isn't all that far away... In fact, it's just down the backside of the mountain from my dad's place. So, if you wanted to get together or something during the winter break, we could do that.

Evil, are you? Hmm. Well, you wouldn't be planning on leading me astray, now, would you?

Ai yi yi!!!!! I completely didn't expect this! I thought he'd crept back into whatever hole he'd sprung from by now and forgotten all about me and that. I mean, talk about everything in my life being a surprise and going dead opposite of what I think will go on... I did a post for Spotfans about that and then pulled it because I felt silly blabbing about a guy who just dumped me again... today it has gone up after all,instead of my intended 'no-dating-resolution' post. How bizarre.

Now what do I do? I haven't written him back yet (let him stew!). Okay, I will probably go, but being even MORE careful to NOT GET ATTACHED (so much for that no-dating resolution. Oh well, that was for New Year's anyway). But as for him coming to my house (assuming that would even come off, like LAST TIME didn't), well, um, I'd rather my parents not see who I'm bringing home. No, make it I don't want my DAD to see who I'm bringing home, he'll lose it. And he's home every friggin' day too. How do I hide him from the folks? Or more likely, how do I hide that I'm going on a date, all dressed up or whatever?

Told this to Matt, and he said:

"Oh yeah, forgot to comment on this... That's cool that he emailed ya! I say go for it! I mean yeah, be skeptical, but another date isn't gonna kill ya... Just make sure you don't get too into him if you think it's going to hurt you in the long run!"
Anyone else find this kinda ironic that he said before this wasn't worth it and now is all go for it?


Anyway, today's newsgroup stuff: In e-mails Matt and I were getting into this whole mall employees being cute thing, and he wanted to put it on newsgroup. Okay, whatever.

Subject: Mall workers
Ms. Rutherford and I were discussing this and figured it was 
worth posting (no, we're not dating nor are we courting so let's cut 
this rumor off right here, shall we?)

Now, has anyone noticed that people who work in malls are 
usually mysteriously attractive? The women there almost always have
a strong sense of fashion, make-up, and attractive hairstyles, etc.
Jen was mentioning that the males who work in mall stores are 
attractive as well, and we're trying to figure out why this is so...
I mean, of course people who work in Macy's or Gap will have fashion
knowledge above and beyond the normal person, but it reaches deeper
than just fashion -- these people are just plain _attractive_... 

Why do you suppose this is so? Is there something about malls
that draws more attractive people to work there? Could it be that mall
stores pay less and therefore non-college younger people are more
likely to take those jobs? (which of course opens the can of worms that
non-college-educated people are generally more attractive. Going to a
generally less-challenging school like CSUS or junior college (yes, 
transferrable classes at JC's can be difficult but a lot of people go 
there and take easy classes) and comparing the populous of students to
those at UCD will show this phenomenon, but the cause of this is a 
different discussion altogether). Could it be that attractive people
normally associate themselves with superficial things like fashion and
other stuff normally affiliated with shopping malls? Could it be that
mall store managers want to make their store look good and therefore
tend to hire more aesthetically pleasing people? Let's get to the 
bottom of this one, folks!              -Curious Mall Shopper

(Me)
Ms. Rutherford and I were discussing this and figured it was
> worth posting (no, we're not dating nor are we courting so let's cut
> this rumor off right here, shall we?)

Courting? What century is this?
> 
>         Now, has anyone noticed that people who work in malls are
> usually mysteriously attractive? The women there almost always have
> a strong sense of fashion, make-up, and attractive hairstyles, etc.
> Jen was mentioning that the males who work in mall stores are
> attractive as well, and we're trying to figure out why this is so...
> I mean, of course people who work in Macy's or Gap will have fashion
> knowledge above and beyond the normal person, but it reaches deeper
> than just fashion -- these people are just plain _attractive_...
> 
>         Why do you suppose this is so? 

-Possible reasons for this:
-1. Store policy, everyone must dress about the same but in different
-colored dresses and huge-ass shoes.
-2. The fashion czars of Seventeen decreed they all wear that stuff.
-3. Taken over by the mall pod people.

Ms. Rutherford 
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." -Jessica Rabbit

}Courting? What century is this?

The 20th.  Courting is fun.  And there's still some monarchs in the world,
so why not?

}-3. Taken over by the mall pod people.

I'm afraid that about sums it up. :)

-Remington

> The 20th.  Courting is fun.  And there's still some monarchs in the world,
> so why not?

Hey, I'm used to people saying "Hey, you wanna hook up?" What do you
expect outta me?
> 
> }-3. Taken over by the mall pod people.
> 
> I'm afraid that about sums it up. :)

Yep, I'm right!
Jennifer

}       Ms. Rutherford and I were discussing this and figured it was 
}worth posting (no, we're not dating nor are we courting so let's cut 
}this rumor off right here, shall we?)

Oh, that's no fun.  You're supposed to wait until a rumor gets going
before you cut it off, otherwise it's an implausible denial, and we all
know you're just trying to cover up for what's _really_ going on.

}       Now, has anyone noticed that people who work in malls are 
}usually mysteriously attractive?

I agree with Yamara.  Nope, not my type.  I generally find that type less
attractive.  Especially after trying to get actual customer service out of
them.

}The women there almost always have
}a strong sense of fashion, make-up, and attractive hairstyles, etc.

I suppose if you're looking for the Shiny Happy People, they might be good
candidates.  But attractiveness to me involves a lot more... A smile I can
believe, and possibly (dare I say it) a personality?  Choosing not to
dress like Vogue or GQ tells you is a big plus in my book.

}which of course opens the can of worms that
}non-college-educated people are generally more attractive.

Again, I disagree 100%.  

}Could it be that attractive people
}normally associate themselves with superficial things like fashion and
}other stuff normally affiliated with shopping malls?

Well, 'superficially attractive' people (ie, those who rely on makeup and
glamour fashions for their attractiveness) are probably going to gravitate
toward their suppliers, so as to get a discount...

}Could it be that
}mall store managers want to make their store look good and therefore
}tend to hire more aesthetically pleasing people?

This is probably a big part of it.  I used to work retail in a small,
independently-run store.  While I was working there, it was bought out by
a big mall chain, and they gradually tried to institute mall marketing
techniques in the way we did business.  One of the most notable of these
was a change in hiring practices.  Whereas before we hired intelligent
people who thought independently and knew the product, after the change I
was told specifically that we were not to hire people who understood the
product, and god forbid they should think for themselves.  (Yes, I'd
reached management by this stage.)  It was amazing how fast business
declined when they stopped trying to actually help customers find what
they needed and started trying to 'hard sell' customers whatever was
supposed to be popular that season with a big, fake smile pasted on their
favce and a 'have a nice day!'  As things progressed, I had to go tour
other stores in the chain, just to keep company communications going and
stuff, and I was alarmed by the fact that these techniques worked in the
malls, because they have a much higher ratio of drones and impulse buyers
caught up in pathetic consumerism than we tended to get, or at that point,
used to get.  I also discovered that I really, really loathe malls.
Almost to the point I want to panic and bolt.  It's probably all the
fluorescent lights.

So anyway, I quit that and came to grad school.  Much more satisfying, and
pays better.

-Remington, mallophobe.

> }which of course opens the can of worms that
> }non-college-educated people are generally more attractive.
> 
> Again, I disagree 100%.

Not exactly what you're talking about, but I read something or other in
the paper awhile back about how the non-college-educated get laid
more... they have more free time, I guess?

> 
> Well, 'superficially attractive' people (ie, those who rely on makeup and
> glamour fashions for their attractiveness) are probably going to gravitate
> toward their suppliers, so as to get a discount...

A good reason. Maybe I should go work at the mall...naaaah...

Whereas before we hired intelligent
> people who thought independently and knew the product, after the change I
> was told specifically that we were not to hire people who understood the
> product, and god forbid they should think for themselves.  

Why am I even a little bit surprised by this? 

It was amazing how fast business
> declined when they stopped trying to actually help customers find what
> they needed and started trying to 'hard sell' customers whatever was
> supposed to be popular that season with a big, fake smile pasted on their
> favce and a 'have a nice day!'  

Sounds like my experiences with shopping in the past few days. I'm
getting so sick of mildly looking at some object and suddenly salesidiot
is in my face, and when I claim I don't have enough money for stupid
object, "Steal it! Borrow it! Right now!" Bleeeeech.

I also discovered that I really, really loathe malls.
> Almost to the point I want to panic and bolt.  It's probably all the
> fluorescent lights.

Sure it's not from being a guy? I know few guys who DON'T do that in a
mall.
Jennifer

Jennifer Diane Rutherford  said:
}Not exactly what you're talking about, but I read something or other in
}the paper awhile back about how the non-college-educated get laid
}more... they have more free time, I guess?

Or are less selective, maybe.

}> I also discovered that I really, really loathe malls.
}> Almost to the point I want to panic and bolt.  It's probably all the
}> fluorescent lights.
}Sure it's not from being a guy? I know few guys who DON'T do that in a
}mall.

Well, I can't say for sure... But I do remember liking malls when I was
very young, but that's probably because I knew mom could be browbeaten
into buying me ice cream, or something.  And when I go to malls, I do see
other males there who don't look as shellshocked as I feel... but perhaps
it's the lighting.

-Remington

the non-college-educated get laid
> }more... they have more free time, I guess?
> 
> Or are less selective, maybe.

I don't know if selective has anything to do with it...
> 
> }> I also discovered that I really, really loathe malls.
> }> Almost to the point I want to panic and bolt.  It's probably all the
> }> fluorescent lights.
> }Sure it's not from being a guy? I know few guys who DON'T do that in a
> }mall.
> 
> Well, I can't say for sure... But I do remember liking malls when I was
> very young, but that's probably because I knew mom could be browbeaten
> into buying me ice cream, or something.  And when I go to malls, I do see
> other males there who don't look as shellshocked as I feel... 

Their girlfriends probably whooped them into submission before they came...

>   "Every great artist needs aspiration, and mine's cookies!"
>                                              -Angelica Pickles

Just wondering: did you see the Rugrats movie?
Jennifer

To get into my day: did it involve studying? Hell no! In fact, I did none at all. Sarah and I went to the mall wearing very short skirts and trolled on men...sadly, while getting a lot of looks (while waiting for her to pick me up I felt like a hooker on a street corner), the only interest came from some slimy fifty-year-old in Barnes and Noble. See what I mean? Once you get into college, you're rarely picked up on by people close to your age. I think I'm doing good if I can keep it within 10 years of my age anymore!

Anyway, after that we went to my place for a bit, then got the idea to force Evan to scan some pictures for us (yay!). Mike was having a bunch of guys over to play some game, and we all went out for Chinese (I'm now down to $11. OUCH). Also got to see Sarah's place for the first time, and her strange kittens (which were very cute and did not do anything bizarre while I was there). I was checking out the joint as a possible living place...sadly, only one bedroom. Well, we'll see, I guess.

When I came back here, I found Chelsea and Kayda and some other guy I didn't know studying (yeah right, talking) in the living room. The guy was totally chatting me up, asking about finals and whatall. I was all thinking, "Who are YOU?" Also saw the end of Felicity- YUMMY, YUMMY EPISODE!!!!!!

And now I'm back here,uploading my new pictures (think I'll spread them out for revealing them here) and still trying to think of what to say back to Remington.



>It occurs to me, that in the cosmic scale of things, Livermore really
>isn't all that far away...

Well, depends on where you're judging it from... if you were on, say, Jupiter, 
in the cosmic scale of things it's be kind of a lulu to make the trip...

In fact, it's just down the backside of the
>mountain from my dad's place.  So, if you wanted to get together or
>something during the winter break, we could do that.

Okay...suppose that could be worked out...
>
>Evil, are you?  Hmm.  Well, you wouldn't be planning on leading me astray,
>now, would you?

Oh, naturally, how could I resist? That's my purpose in life...leading people 
astray, confusing them, and generally plotting evil deeds and how to take over 
the world...
Jennifer

And finally, here's a picture of me, what you've all been waiting for... in black and white and very shadowy, here ya go...

Dang, this picture came out darker than he said it would...

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