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9/10/2002 2:00 pm - 3:05
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DISCUSSHOST:
2:00
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Welcome everyone to this live chat with Dr. Wayne
Dyer. We are thrilled to have him joining us and sharing
his ideas. Let's go ahead and get started. Welcome Dr.
Dyer.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:00 pm |
Hi there. It is great to be with you.
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ReflectPond:
2:00
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What are you thinking about right now on the eve of
the anniversary of 9-11?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:01 pm |
I am thinking that, as a people we have grown
tremendously in the past year.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:01 pm |
I was in San Diego that day. There was a full page
ad in USA Today on 9/11 for a book I had just released
called "There is a Spiritual Solution to Every Problem".
Little did I know how significant that message would
be.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:01 pm |
Less than an hour after the paper was released, our
coutnry was turned upside down.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:02 pm |
I feel there is a spirtual solution to the problems
we face.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:03 pm |
I told a story on MSNBC of a grandfather speaking to
his grandson. Grandfather said: "I feel as if I have 2
wolves barking inside me very loud. The first wolf is
filled with anger, hatred, bitterness and mostly
revenge. The 2nd wolf is filled with love, kindness,
gentleness and mostly forgiveness."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:03 pm |
The grandson looked up and said "Which wolf do you
think will win, Grandpa?"
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:03 pm |
The man responded "Which ever one I
feed."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:03 pm |
I think ultimately we will have to come to a place,
as a people, where we recognize that we all share the
same God force, regardless for our appearances or
cultural believes or location on this
planet.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:04 pm |
There is a famous Native American saying: "No tree
has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves."
We must learn to no longer be so foolish and do whatever
it takes to support the one tree and its many
branches.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:04 pm |
That is what I am thinking about
today.
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Phyllis:
2:05 pm |
How will you personally honor the events of last
year`s attack, tomorrow?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:05 pm |
I have a new book "10 Secrets for Success and Inner
Peace." One of thoes secrets says: "embrace
silence."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:06 pm |
I believe we have the capacity to resolve all the
problems on this planet, including the middle east,
Afghanistan, Ireland, Indonesia, Africa and wherever
tumult is rearing its head, through the use of silence,
meditation and making conscious contact with
God.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:06 pm |
One of the things we have learned in research is
that through silence we can raise the seratonin levels
in the brain. They are enzymes that measure how much
peace we have through meditationa nd getting
quiet.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:07 pm |
We also learned the those surrounding around those
who meditate, even though they don't participate, have
their seratonin levels raised just by being near the
slience and contact with God.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:07 pm |
If we could put several million people around the
West Bank and Israel and have them all just mediatte and
get quiet, we could impact the entire
region.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:08 pm |
If you take the word 'silence' and spell it out.. s
i l e n t
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:08 pm |
and rearrange those letters.. you will come up with
another word.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:08 pm |
l i s t e n
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:08 pm |
Tomorrow I will be silent, projecting my conscious
contact with God to all who would love to be in that
space.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:09 pm |
As Herman Melville once observed, "God's one an only
voice is silence."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:09 pm |
Now take S I L E N C E and rearrage those
... L I C E N S E
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:09 pm |
Silence gives you a license to make consious contact
with God.
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Frosty:
2:10 pm |
What do you see as the greatest obstacle to joy with
people today?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:10 pm |
In the prayer of St France of Asissi. He askes us to
learn how to create a spiritual solution to our
problem.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:11 pm |
I think of this, not as a prayer itself, but as an
800 year old technology that represents how to create an
environment of joy and love and peace where such things
as anger and hatred and fear exist.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:11 pm |
He reminds us to bring higer energy to the presence
of lower energy. When we do, we not only nullify the
lower energy but we convert it to higher
energy.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:11 pm |
Fir example.. when you are in a dark room, you are
in a low energy place.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:12 pm |
When you bring light to the presence of that
darkness, you not only dissolve the darkness but you
convert it to light.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:12 pm |
When you are in an environment of hatred and you
respond by hating the hatred, you have lowered the
energy field.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:12 pm |
You must learn to bring love to the presence of
hatred, to not only dissolve it but to convert it to
love.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:13 pm |
So it is with sadness and joy.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:13 pm |
If you are sad over someone else's sadness or angry
that someone is angry at you, you lower the energy field
and weaken everyone in that field.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:13 pm |
When you respond to sadness or anger with joy and
peace, you dissolve and convert that lower
energy.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:14 pm |
The greatest obstacle to a life of joy is that
almost everyone responds to sadness and anger and hatred
with more of the same.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:14 pm |
Become instruments of peace and bring joy wherever
you may be and all obstacles are removed.
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DanCarne:
2:14
pm |
I have started to pray for peace actively. But, it
seems so hard. And I think the reason being is that the
world says that it won`t do any good. How do you pray
for peace in your life?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:15 pm |
I don't look at prayer as my trying to bring about
my desired results.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:15 pm |
I look at prayer as a communion with my source and I
detach myself from the outcome. I pay no attention to
what naysayers might observe about the folly of
prayer.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:15 pm |
I get quiet and I put this energy out to the world
and I absolutely know that that energy of prayer and
communion with God is doing what it is supposed to
do.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:16 pm |
I remove my ego from the entire process and do not
look at God as a giant vending machine in the
sky!
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:16 pm |
A machine dispensing goodies to some and baddies to
others.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:16 pm |
Our problems all come from the fact that we have
separated ourselves from our Source.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:16 pm |
Think of God as the ocean and yourself as a
glass.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:17 pm |
You dip the glass into the ocean and what you have
is a glass of God.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:17 pm |
Not as big, not as strong, but it is still
God.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:18 pm |
When it is separated from its source it loses all
the power of the source. But when it reconnects to the
ocean it can sustain life, perform miracles, and all we
have to remember is that our ego is a symbol of that
drop of water separated from that source and then
reconnect it in some way.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:18 pm |
All of our prayers are then answered.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:18 pm |
Sometimes the answer to a prayer is "no". It doesn't
mean it hasn't been answer, it just means: not
now.
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Don:
2:19 pm |
I have become increasingly intrigued lately with the
concept of time. Your book: "Believe It When You See It"
suggests "time" can be a misleading concept. How might I
better realize the unreality of "time"?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:19 pm |
First of all, the title of the book is the
opposite.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:19 pm |
"You'll see it when you believe it"
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:19 pm |
Time is one of those great mysteries because we live
simultansoussly in 2 dimensions, both of which have
opposite rules.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:19 pm |
At the same moment in time we are in a body that had
a beginning and will have an end.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:20 pm |
And at that exact same moment, who we are inside
this body, has no beginning, no end, no boundaries, no
form, is timeless.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:20 pm |
So the mystery always endures.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:20 pm |
We are doomed to make choices. We are formless and
in form all at the same time.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:21 pm |
And time is what we, in our bodies, have come to
bvelieve is what is measured by these instruments we
carry around on our wrists. When in reality time simply
doesn't exist at all except in these bodies and minds
that began and will end.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:22 pm |
As you begin to move to a new consciousness and see
yousrself, not as a numad being having a spiriutual
experience , rather as a spiritual being having a human
experience, time disappears into the void.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:22 pm |
And then you begin to understand that everything is
just 'now'.
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DanCarne:
2:23
pm |
Dr. Dyer, thanks for talking to us today. I have
three kids, 6, 9, 11. What should I be talking to them
about 9-11?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:23 pm |
I have 8 children, ages 12-35. I have told them all
that these events, which seem so horrific, are really
our opportunities to discover our greatness and our
divinity.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:23 pm |
Look at what happened when these events transpired
on 9/11/01.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:24 pm |
More blood was donated in the first day than could
possibly be used. Much of it had to be
destroyed.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:24 pm |
Billions of dollars were donated. People ran into
burning buildings to save strangers that yesterday they
were honking their horns at in dismay.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:24 pm |
Volunteers lined the streets, horns stopped honking
in the streets all over America. People became patient
and loving in airports.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:25 pm |
Anger dissolved and was turned into
compassion.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:26 pm |
These events, inch by inch, move us to a higher
ground, a higher place. Rather than putting all of our
emphasis on the horrors, lets use these events and
others like them to remind ourselves to be more
compassionate, more loving, more peaceful, more divine
beings.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:26 pm |
I talked about raising children in a book I wrote
years ago called "What Do You Really Want For Your
Children?"
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:27 pm |
I concluded by telling them to catch them doing
things right whenever possible. So lets look at what we
have done right, how we have grown and how better we
will be because of events like holocausts, wars,
starvation, and yes even the events of
9/11/01.
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Piscapo:
2:28 pm |
I just found this quote on your web site, "The past
is over for all of us. The future is promised to none of
us. All we get is this one. That`s all we get." Is this
an idea you came up with before or after
9-11?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:29 pm |
I wrote an essay in a book called "Wisdom Of the
Ages" based upon the observations of a man who lived
1000 years ago, in the 10th Centrury, named Omar
Khayam. In a colection of his poetry called
the
Rubayyat, he said:
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:29 pm |
"The Moving finger writes and having writ moves on.
Nor all thy piety nor wit can lure it back to cancel
half a line, nor all thy tears wash out one word of it."
[ref.]
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:29 pm |
A little tent maker in athe middle ages, 1000 years
ago, reminded us of this.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:30 pm |
In my newest book "Ten Secrets for Success and Inner
Peace" the fifth secret says "Give up your personal
history"
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:30 pm |
I mean, don't live in the wake of your
life.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:31 pm |
The wake of a boat is nothing more than the trail
that is left behind. NO matter how hard you try, you can
never drive the boat with the wake. it is just a trail
left behind.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:31 pm |
SO, too, is the wake of your life. It is just a
trail left behind. It is an illusion to believe that it
is what is driving you life today.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:31 pm |
What drives it is the same thign that drives the
boat - the present moment energy that is generated by
the engine and nothing more.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:32 pm |
Carlos Casteneda told us "If you don't have a story,
you don't have to live up to it." So get rid of your
story and get out of the wake.
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candlelight:
2:32
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How do you manage to "shut out" all the interference
that comes to your thought while in
silence?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:33 pm |
I call it getting in the gap.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:33 pm |
I am releasing a little booklet on this, in
December, along with a CD.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:33 pm |
It is said that we have appx 60,000 separate
thoughts every day! The only problem is, we have the
same 60,000 as we had yesterday!
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:33 pm |
And we'll very likely have the same 60,000
tomorrow.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:34 pm |
With this many separate thoughts each day, there is
almost no space between those thoughts.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:34 pm |
A Zen proverb reminds us "It is the silence between
the notes that makes the music."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:34 pm |
Moving into the gap is accomplished by putting your
attention first on a word. For example, in the Lord's
Prayer, put all your attention, inner attention, on the
word 'Our" for 30 seconds.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:35 pm |
Then shift to "Father" for 30 seconds. Picturing
only that word.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:35 pm |
Now go backwards in your mind and see if you can be
10 seconds in the gap between those two words. Notice
the bliss of the gap!
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:35 pm |
It is out of the void that all creativity
originates.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:36 pm |
Just by practicing that simple technique of focusing
on one word and then another and then slipping into the
gap between them, you will begin to train your mind to
live comfortably in silence.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:36 pm |
You can read about this in the new release called
"Getting in the Gap" from Hay House, along with a CD
demonstrating it, approximately December this
year.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:37 pm |
You can reach them at 1-800-654-5126. The Hay in Hay
House stands for Louise Hay, a great spritual
teacher.
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LookingforjoyA9:
2:37
pm |
What is your spiritual practice?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:38 pm |
I always think of a story told of Ghandi, as he was
on a train pulling out of New Delhi. He was given a
piece of paper and asked a question "What is your
message"
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:38 pm |
He responded to those outside the train "My life is
my message."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:38 pm |
I don't think of my spiritual practice as something
that I work on each day, with techniques.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:39 pm |
I think of a quote of Krishna Murti "Reality is not
a concept, reality is my daily life."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:39 pm |
Believe it or not, I work and practice all of these
things in the smallest of ways, every single
day.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:40 pm |
I send love to a person who is in a hurry on the
freeway, cutting me off.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:40 pm |
I give a little extra money to someone in need on
the street corner.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:40 pm |
I move in on people who are arguing and try to bring
an energy of love to that environment, in a grocery
store.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:41 pm |
In a thousand ways, everyday, my spiritual practice
is sending love and try to be, not so much a Christian,
Jew, Buddhist, or Muslim, but to be Christ-like, or
Jehovah-like, or Buddha-like or
Muhammad-like.
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DISCUSSHOST:
2:41
pm |
Make sure you go to the Special 9-11 page in the
upper right corner of the page for the latest articles,
information, and upcoming events.
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BDBW:
2:41 pm |
Aren`t their actions you have taken and events in
your life that you want to have as your history? How can
you differentiate between the past you want to help
define you and that which you wish to leave in the
wake?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:41 pm |
It is all in the wake.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:41 pm |
Every bit of it!
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:42 pm |
This is not to say that I haven't learned a great
deal from so many of the mistakes I have made in my
life.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:42 pm |
I remember an observation of St. Francis - "I have
been all things unholy. If God can work through me, he
can work through anyone."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:42 pm |
And they named San Francisco after
him!
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:43 pm |
But all of it is in the wake. The good, the bad, and
the ugly... and the divine.
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MS:
2:43 pm |
What has been the most inspirational thing you have
seen in the past year?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:44 pm |
In a church service that I conducted on Maui, I took
the names of 20 of the people who had died in the World
Trade Center tragedy and I gave those names to 20
different people.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:44 pm |
I asked them all to pray for the rest of their life,
every day, for that person and their family. All of them
agreed to do that, everyday, for the rest of their
life.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:45 pm |
THey agreed to do it with joy, love and enthusiasm.
Their reaction to that request, inspired me
enormously.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:46 pm |
I lost one dear friend, who was on the plane that
flew into the WTC, who was in the audience when I
reorded my PBS special in Concord, Mass. Her name is
Paige Farley, a counselor to my daughter Sommer. She
accompanied our family to Machu Pichu in Peru and in
many was was a living Saint.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:46 pm |
I pray for her every day and her family. And I have
spoken to her brother recently and he is beginning a
foundation in her memory.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:46 pm |
Such is the power of this prayer.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:47 pm |
I encourage all of you to find one name, out of the
thousands, and maybe one name in Africa of somoene
maimed and killed, and one in Ireland, particularly of a
different faith than yourself, and remember them to God
- every day for the rest of your life.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:47 pm |
Notice what happens.
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comida:
2:47 pm |
you talked about a spiritual solution to every
problem -- how do I know when I hit upon a spiritual
solution? how can I tell it apart from other
solutions?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:48 pm |
A spiritual solution is nothing more than bringing
higher energy, faster energy to the presence of lower,
slower energy.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:48 pm |
Love, kindness, peace, joy, faith - these are higher
spiritual energies. When you bring them to lower
energies of hatred, anger, fear, depression, worry, you
will see those lower energies are
converted.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:49 pm |
That is all a spiritual solution is - converting
lower energy to higher.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:49 pm |
Energy does not come in good or bad, right or wrong,
moral and immoral. These are all human
judgements.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:49 pm |
Energy comes in two measures only - high and low,
fast and slow.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:50 pm |
The higher and faster the energy, the more you
approach God. And the lower and slower energy cannot
survive int he face of these higher and faster
energies.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:50 pm |
The Tenth secret in my new book, is called "Wisdom
is avoiding all thoughts that weaken you."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:50 pm |
Thoughts of low energy weaken the muscles of your
body. If you want to see how it works, read a book
called "Power Vs. Force" by David Hawkins, MD, also
available through Hay House.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:51 pm |
Once you know a thought is weakening you, you can
bring God to the presence of that lower energy. Doing
so, you convert that energy to higher and more spiritual
energy.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:51 pm |
That is how you will know.
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YLRR:
2:52 pm |
Guilt seems to get in the way of joy for me. I`m not
bad, yet I tend to feel guilty. How can I get out of
this guilt-habit?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:52 pm |
Guilt is a wasted emotion.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:52 pm |
Try feeling guilty for 10 minutes about the outcome
of the war of 1812.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:52 pm |
Notice that, no matter how guilty you feel about how
that war turned out, it doesn't change the
outcome.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:52 pm |
Yesterday is just as over as 1812.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:53 pm |
In fact, this morning is just as over as 1812. You
feeling guilty about anything that happened between 1812
and this morning, will have no impact other than to
immobilize you in the present moment.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:53 pm |
Guilt is using up the present moment to feel bad
about something that is already over.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:54 pm |
It is not living in the past, it is living in the
now, but using it up - obsessing about what could or
should have happened.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:54 pm |
When you find yourself using up your present moment,
being immobilized over somethign that has already
happened, remind yourself of the insanity of such a
stance.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:54 pm |
Learn from the past but don't live back there in
guilt.
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HarryJB:
2:55 pm |
What are you doing differetly this year that you
weren`t doing a year ago?
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:55 pm |
I saw a definition once of true nobility. It said
true nobility is not being better than anyone else. it
is being better than you used to be.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:56 pm |
As a humanitarian, teacher, father, as a human
being, I am just a little bit better than I was a year
ago.
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:57 pm |
A little softer, a little kinder, a little less
egocentric, but otherwise still running and swimming and
speaking and writing and breathing and living each day,
reminding myself of what Rumi said in the 13th Century -
"Sell your cleverness and purchase
bewilderment."
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Dr.
Dyer:
2:57 pm |
I am more in awe, now of very moment i have, than I
was a day ago, let alone a year ago.
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DISCUSSHOST:
2:57
pm |
Unfortunately, that is all the time we have, but we
would like to go on all day. Thanks so much Dr. Dyer for
this time, and thanks so much for your love,
inspiration, and consideration. This has been a special
hour. Thanks to everyone for the great
questions.
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2:58
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Have a great day everyone!
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roo:
2:59 pm |
Thanks, I like the idea of no living in the wake of
your life.
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candlelight:
2:59
pm |
that was a beautiful
answer..thank you very much..is there a book that you
have written that would expand on this
practice???
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