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MajorBarcalow
Lt. Cmdr.
posted January 12, 2002 22:58     Click Here to See the Profile for MajorBarcalow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read on my computer about the boy that stolen the airplane and flew upto the sky and crashed then after into a building over there in Tampa. This is not far away and maybe it's an hour when I drive in a car. For me. The boy is named Charles Bishop and he is fifteen years of old and he said he loved Osama Ben Ladan. So he crashed the plane of his on the building.

My computer said he was high on Acutan. My computer said Acutan is drugs for acne because I'm guessing but Charles Bishop had acne. Maybe the drugs made him act bad and effected the behaveor of his. Too many kids are on drugs and taking drugs like ridelen for their being bad.

I watch children at night for money until thier parents come take them. It's like daycare here and I'm good on kids. But the kids on drugs are all got problems. They misbehave, act up and sometimes they are depressed. I know some got ADD and need pills for them but they never are right after and some still misbahave and only get worse even if I'm screaming to them. I yell at their parents to get them to stop the pills but they just get mad and never they want to see their kids are being bad. I don't care because they take their kids away fast after couple of days anyway. So I don't care. I just want the kids where I get money the most and I want them to behav or they get time outs or I ignor them. But I have to watch them except when I'm shaving and in my bathroom. Or they get hurt or in trouble or the break my things in the house. And I feed them food. But I get upset when they are bad and I know the parents drug them to death. I tell them its their fault and they should read my Bible. This is going on too much and that's why Charles Bishop crashed Tampa.

Parents shouldn't give the kids ridelen. They should make the kids behave and be teaching them that. I think they give them pills so it's easy and faster than them learning good behaveor and praying. I say this to them all the time but they hear nothing and get angery. So I get angery too and I don't care. They have to live on their kids and that's too bad for them, but then the kid crashes like Charles Bishop and we all have to be scared. I am! There are three airports close here! I see planes and they are in the sky!

Morn The Lorian
Fleet Captain
posted January 12, 2002 23:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Morn The Lorian   Click Here to Email Morn The Lorian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MajorBarcalow:
My computer said he was high on Acutan. My computer said Acutan is drugs for acne because I'm guessing but Charles Bishop had acne. Maybe the drugs made him act bad and effected the behaveor of his. Too many kids are on drugs and taking drugs like ridelen for their being bad.

Boy you are dumb, mister made-up.
(Eh mods, this can't be a flame, this personnality doesnt really ezist, so's really corect, whazamad?)

Acutan has a serious perverse effect : it make depressed!
People that get too much of acne stuff get depressed. The boy was depressed.
Acutan doesnt give any high.

bolian12
Commander
posted January 13, 2002 00:09     Click Here to See the Profile for bolian12   Click Here to Email bolian12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MajorBarcalow:

I don't care because they take their kids away fast after couple of days anyway.

I can see why.

movieboy
Lt. Cmdr.
posted January 13, 2002 00:15     Click Here to See the Profile for movieboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still don' know whether this person is serious or full of shit.

quote:
Boy you are dumb, mister made-up.
(Eh mods, this can't be a flame, this personnality doesnt really ezist, so's really corect, whazamad?)

That's good coming from you!! Take about the pot calling the kettle black...

Leith Jones
Captain
posted January 13, 2002 00:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Leith Jones   Click Here to Email Leith Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if anybody knows about what gets you high, it's Morn. But we luv ya, Mornie baby!

Geeze, arming himself, stalking women, babysitting innocent, hyperactive children.... if the good MajorBarcalow is NOT yanking our chains, we have good reason to be scared, very very scared.

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PreatorX
Captain
posted January 13, 2002 01:51     Click Here to See the Profile for PreatorX   Click Here to Email PreatorX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes MajorBarcalow, I agree that Americans give their children too many drugs.

Morn The Lorian
Fleet Captain
posted January 13, 2002 02:03     Click Here to See the Profile for Morn The Lorian   Click Here to Email Morn The Lorian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you Magor.
Druging kids is stupid.


Jaques the monkey
Commander
posted January 13, 2002 05:29     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaques the monkey   Click Here to Email Jaques the monkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taking this FAR more seriously than it deserves (in regards the source), we're talking about prescribed medicines and screwed-up brain chemistry. Messing with brain chemistry is dicey business, but what would you recommend to concerned but medically uneducated parents as alternative treatment for children with disorders, children whose brain chemistry is already messed up or who suffer from any number of other diorders which require treatment? Do you blame parents for trusting their doctors? Are the children better off without treatment?

Morn The Lorian
Fleet Captain
posted January 13, 2002 05:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Morn The Lorian   Click Here to Email Morn The Lorian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^^^^^^
Okay for that, but what I have problem with is calling a disorder bored kids at school.
They are just bored, and them they dont want to admit that they are the source of their boredom so they make up a new disease : ADD.
OK this thing exist for real, but far too much kids diagnostiqued with that are just bored and have no disorders.

Exemple:

silly mommy : "My kid dont like school"
psycho pedo: "Is his teachers complaints about his behavior"
silly mommy " "Now that you pose the question...yes, I think they does, but Im not sure"
Psycho pedo: "If you want, we will not take chance with the future of your son, your son suffer from ADD, if we dont treat him, when he will grow up, he will get cancer. Do you want amphetamines for him, to stimulate him at school?"
silly mommy : "Ohh yaaaaa!!!!!!! baaabyyy doc, ohhh yaaaa yes sir, I want !!"

That true! Its how things goes in the real life, concernins parents drugging their kids!!

bolian12
Commander
posted January 13, 2002 05:52     Click Here to See the Profile for bolian12   Click Here to Email bolian12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it just me, or has the Major lost his edge?

Malnurtured Snayer
Lt. Cmdr.
posted January 13, 2002 06:59     Click Here to See the Profile for Malnurtured Snayer   Click Here to Email Malnurtured Snayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I'm good on kids.

No wonder your "girlfriend" didn't want to put out for you -- she thinks you've got it for the little tykes ...

MakaVillian
Lieutenant
posted January 13, 2002 08:45     Click Here to See the Profile for MakaVillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I see planes and they are in the sky!

OMG!!!!!!! Stop the presses the planes are now flying in the sky. Barky has cracked the code of those damn teasing women!
Way to go Barcaloner!

EDIT: sorry for the falme but sometimes the things this 'guy' says are just too dumb to pass up.

[This message has been edited by MakaVillian (edited January 13, 2002).]

TheMaster
Rear Admiral
posted January 14, 2002 01:02     Click Here to See the Profile for TheMaster   Click Here to Email TheMaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There actually is a wild story here. His folks entered into a suicide pact when they were young. He'd slit his wrist, and then stab her. After he did himself, he chickened out, and they called 911.

His folks married, had him, divorced when he was 2.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20020110/us/tampa_crash_14.html

MajorBarcalow
Lt. Cmdr.
posted January 14, 2002 05:24     Click Here to See the Profile for MajorBarcalow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaques the monkey:
Taking this FAR more seriously than it deserves (in regards the source), we're talking about prescribed medicines and screwed-up brain chemistry. Messing with brain chemistry is dicey business, but what would you recommend to concerned but medically uneducated parents as alternative treatment for children with disorders, children whose brain chemistry is already messed up or who suffer from any number of other diorders which require treatment? Do you blame parents for trusting their doctors? Are the children better off without treatment?


Parents should not be trusting the doctors so easy. Doctors sometimes are fighting God's will and try to change He's doing here. This is why those kids are still bad off even after the pills and that's why they make no change and the kids stay bad and hyper.

I watch kids at night and there are many I watch. I had a brother and a sister and the brother was hyper and there could not control him and I screamed at hi but he only laughed. Then my mother told me he needs pills for taking. This to control him. But they just still make him crazy.

I told his mother and yelled at her because since she was a bad mother and I told her. She yelled back at me so I told her I was calling the cops to get her and to children welfair to get the kids and she cried and screamed. She nevere came back and that lost me money from her but her kids are sufring. Not me. I don't have them for raising.

PantherTrekkie
Fleet Captain
posted January 14, 2002 06:10     Click Here to See the Profile for PantherTrekkie   Click Here to Email PantherTrekkie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright, Major, you want the real deal on Accutane?

I'll give it to ya.

I took it for about 13 months. It worked, and I never tried to kill myself.

Bishop was a screwed up kid...and people are just looking for someone to blame it on.

Such is the American way.

Jaques the monkey
Commander
posted January 14, 2002 06:33     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaques the monkey   Click Here to Email Jaques the monkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Major, the majority of Doctors and parents do their best, but are certainly capable of mistakes in judgement. Not that there aren't unscrupulous doctors out there who will milk the situation, but most are dedicated people who care about the welfare of their patients.

For the parents, they love their kids and want what's best for them, but are not medically knowledgeable. If they put more faith in doctors than they occasionally should, that's understandable. It must be scary to be a parent and have a problem child, and have to rely on someone else's knowledge to guide them to help the child...in most cases the doctor can and does help, but sometimes a given medication is unhelpful or even damaging. Sadly, that's how life works - our best guesses and intentions can go wrong for what we don't know or couldn't foresee.

I won't bother arguing about what is or is not God's will, I certainly don't know God's mind. In such cases as involve children, my heart goes out to every effort to help any child who truly needs help.

Be kind to the parents and understand that they choose what they do out of fear for their child's well-being - that's not being a bad parent, to want to help even when they are missing the knowledge that will inform them of what's best.

I have a great-nephew like the kid you describe - he's hyper, and yelling at him doesn't help. His medication does help, though - he's able to function like any other normal kid when he's had his regular dose but becomes a problem when a dose is skipped.

I don't know much about the sad kid Charles Bishop, but I'd bet that his crash was not so much a problem of his taking Accutane as it was his skipping his dosages. This poor kid was screwed beyond what medication alone could remedy.

[This message has been edited by Jaques the monkey (edited January 14, 2002).]

Malnurtured Snayer
Lt. Cmdr.
posted January 19, 2002 08:24     Click Here to See the Profile for Malnurtured Snayer   Click Here to Email Malnurtured Snayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kind of car do you drive, Major?

WeaponOfChoice
Fleet Captain
posted January 19, 2002 08:28     Click Here to See the Profile for WeaponOfChoice   Click Here to Email WeaponOfChoice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I think he drives a cocaine car.

strikefalcon
Captain
posted January 19, 2002 08:56     Click Here to See the Profile for strikefalcon   Click Here to Email strikefalcon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I'm gonna say on this matter is that twenty years ago, if I acted up against my parents, they'd spank my ass! Most parents of that time did the same thing. And there was no such thing as "ADD." And there weren't ever any kids going off the deep end and shooting up their schools or flying Cessnas into buildings! All this shit started happening when politics started drifting violently to the left and then they were no longer bad kids, they had a "disorder." It's all bullshit! Here's a word of advice to all prospective parents: Don't give your kids behaviour altering drugs EVER. Even the smartest scientists are still just playing a guessing game when it comes to understanding the human brain. It's not worth the risk.

This acne drug this kid had seems legitimate, the parents knew of the side effects and they still gave it to the kid. The Master points out that the kids parents are both nuttier than fruitcakes themselves, so it's probably genetic.

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All I ask for is a tall ship and a star to steer her by. -John Masefield
Remember Sept. 11, 2001.

AscendantOne
Lieutenant
posted January 19, 2002 17:10     Click Here to See the Profile for AscendantOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was a little disturbed to hear that Minor Barcalounger watches children.. although I suppose they are safe as long as they arent his cousins.

What else does your computer tell you, Barky?

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ed629
Commander
posted January 19, 2002 18:18     Click Here to See the Profile for ed629     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Malnurtured Snayer:
What kind of car do you drive, Major?


Here's my theory on what he drives

http://trekbbs.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/008964.html

Morn The Lorian
Fleet Captain
posted January 19, 2002 20:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Morn The Lorian   Click Here to Email Morn The Lorian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by strikefalcon:
This acne drug this kid had seems legitimate, the parents knew of the side effects and they still gave it to the kid. The Master points out that the kids parents are both nuttier than fruitcakes themselves, so it's probably genetic.


The guy was 15, he was enough old to see a dermatologist and to ask himself.

The problem is all our fucking medicine thing.
Heck, the have SECONDARY EFFECT, what the fuck is that?

For example, I take presently cough medicine, in contain 75mg of Pine Tar in each tea cup I take.
That side effect it will give to me, the pine tar?

Will I fuck up my lungs?

Leith Jones
Captain
posted January 19, 2002 21:39     Click Here to See the Profile for Leith Jones   Click Here to Email Leith Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only if you smoke the tea, Morn. Or swallow it the wrong way.

What is pine tar supposed to do? Is that a home remedy, like honey and lemon in tea?

TheMaster
Rear Admiral
posted January 19, 2002 21:40     Click Here to See the Profile for TheMaster   Click Here to Email TheMaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last report I'd heard, he didn't take Acutan, or any other major drug.

He's a nutter.

Morn The Lorian
Fleet Captain
posted January 19, 2002 22:48     Click Here to See the Profile for Morn The Lorian   Click Here to Email Morn The Lorian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leith Jones:
Only if you smoke the tea, [b]Morn. Or swallow it the wrong way.

What is pine tar supposed to do? Is that a home remedy, like honey and lemon in tea?[/B]


I dont know. It's a syrup, Lambert's Syrup, original formula.
The box looks old but dont worry, I checked the date, it's said the expiration date is February 2004.

Now I have my tooth that begin to worry me. It before painful my tooth

Treker4747
Fleet Captain
posted January 20, 2002 04:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Treker4747   Click Here to Email Treker4747     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>> I read on my computer about the boy that stolen the airplane ::SNIP:: So he crashed the plane of his on the building.<<

So was the plane stolen... or was it his?

Also, I have three words: Run on sentence.

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