These views are recorded in two articles: `Radical beginnings, conventional ends? dilemmas and difficulties in the development of radical organisations.' in New forms of ownership: management and development. Eds. Poole, M. and Jenkins, G. Routledge, 1990. `Overt funding, buried goals and moral turnover: the organisational transformation of radical experiments.' Human Relations Vol. 44, No.7, pp643-664,July, 1991.