Ampersand Interview with Ashley Judd

For the first interview of the newly-revived Ampersand, we wanted to make a splash. Who better to help us than actress and Arts and Sciences alumna Ashley Judd? Judd, who most recently appeared in the successful film "Kiss the Girls," was a French major and honors student at UK during the late 1980s, minoring in no fewer than four disciplines (anthropology, women’s studies, art history and theatre).

We talked about her upcoming projects and her production company, appropriately named "HillBilly Films" (the company will affiliate with a major Hollywood studio in the near future). We even talked about basketball and the works of novelist and fellow Arts and Sciences alumna Bobbie Ann Mason.

As our conversation attests, Judd remains as passionate about ideas, art and literature as she was when she was at UK.

Ampersand: What are your fondest memories of being an Arts & Sciences student at UK?

Ashley Judd: Probably, above and beyond the education itself, the conversations that I would have with my advisors.

Ampersand: Are there any classes or professors that had a special impact on you?

Ashley Judd: Madame La Charité, for one [Professor of French Virginia La Charité]. She believed in me and had an ambitious plan in mind, and her perspective and regard for me as competent and talented really opened my own eyes to my own academic abilities. When you’ve got someone whom you perceive as a wizened professor encouraging you to do things that are pretty ambitious, you get a lot more confident. . . . Susan Abbott-Jamieson [anthropology], Chris Havice [art history] and Jeannine Blackwell [German] were my most prominent influences. The feedback that they would give me on journal entries, remarks on papers I had written. . . . I blossomed. I absolutely flourished. First of all, I was in fertile soil, but they cultivated me just right. It all came together for me at UK. It’s exactly where I was supposed to be.

Ampersand: How has a liberal arts education prepared you for the challenges of the entertainment industry?

Ashley Judd: Well, the fact is that one’s imagination is critically important, and if you have had your imagination stimulated by what is basically a variety of subjects, you are much more amenable to accepting, to understanding and interacting with the realities of the world. . . . Your eyes are already open and you are more ready to believe and have awe at the wonders of humanity.

Ampersand: What projects are you currently working on?

Ashley Judd: I did an adaptation of "A Prayer for Owen Meany" by John Irving — the novel. We shot that in Toronto and Nova Scotia and are actually shooting another day this week in L. A. I’ve been doing a lot of fun things, like saying "I won’t do the movie for a nickel under my quote," and then suddenly they call back and they meet my quote and I’m like, "OK, back to the wall here. I’m going to have to do the movie."

The things on my plate next year [1998] will be very distinct from one another. A film noir/femme fatale role; a woman who’s in a small town in a very snowy part of America with a young child and a husband who finds a plane full of money; a romantic comedy; and a movie that I really love, which is essentially "Ruby in Paradise," the next chapter [Judd played Ruby Lee Gissing in the acclaimed 1993 film]. Instead of it being about a woman from eastern Tennessee, she’s from eastern Kentucky and she lives in Cincinnati. It’s a Jonathan Demme project.

Ampersand: What is your dream role? Are there any characters from the arts or literature that you would like to portray on screen?

Ashley Judd: Well, there are actually a lot, as indicated by my French major, four minors and Honors Program curriculum. I have a lot of variety within me, and the dream role, I think, is actually a compilation of parts that express different aspects of my persona and personal interests. They all have in common tremendous emotional underpinning and a very rich inner life. I would still love to do "Feather Crowns," the Bobbie Ann Mason book. When HillBilly Films is actually officially a part of a parent company and I have my development money, that will be one of the first projects. I really love it. I see it ultimately as a love story and a really interesting way to depict that time period. I tell people about that story all the time. I just reread "Spence and Lila" [Mason’s 1988 novella].

Ampersand: Any thoughts on the UK basketball team? Are we going to see you again in March at the NCAA tournament?

Ashley Judd: You are going to see the Cats and me in March. I’m going to try to come up before then, of course. I think we’re doing great so far.

University of Kentucky


Tuesday, June 16, 1998 1:39 PM NEWS ARTICLE: Maybe Ashley Judd shouldn't join the family business just yet. The Kiss the Girls actress nervously sang in public with her famous relatives for the first time this weekend. Judd joined mother Naomi and sister Wynonna onstage for a gospel standard at a charity auction at Nashville's Wildhorse Saloon on Sunday to raise money for the American Liver Foundation.


Wednesday, April 8, 1998 9:05 AM Casting Call: News on Ashley Judd and Sean Penn Ashley Judd in prison? Could happen. Variety reports that the Kiss the Girls actress is in serious talks to star opposite Tommy Lee Jones in the action thriller Double Jeopardy. Judd would play a woman sent to jail for ten years for the murder of her husband. The catch? He faked his death and framed her in an insurance scam. When she gets out of jail, she decides to exact revenge because she can't be tried twice for the crime. Jones will play a parole officer who must track her down. Jodie Foster was once attached to the project, but dropped out at the end of last year for "personal reasons," and Helen Hunt and Michelle Pfeiffer had both considered the role. But the teaming of Judd and Jones now gives the picture a distinctly Southern flavor. Bruce Beresford will direct the Paramount pic, which starts shooting in July.


ASHLEY JUDD Her mom and sister are country-music sensations Naomi and Wynonna Judd, but Ashley isn't standing in anyone's shadow. Since 1992, she's amassed a résumé that would shame many actresses who've been at it twice as long, including leads in the critically acclaimed Ruby in Paradise and Michael Mann's Heat. And with two movies opening on the same day -- the big-budget psychothriller Kiss the Girls and the psychosexual melodrama The Locusts, opposite flavor-of-the-month Vince Vaughn -- she's poised to leave cult-favorite status in the dust. Smart, outspoken and quietly determined to do things her own way, Judd talks about what scares her, getting physical onscreen and why her faith is her career path. -- Maitland McDonagh

ASHLEY JUDD Watching Kiss the Girls scared me to death -- did making it have the same effect on you?

Not at all. But I was probably too exhausted to worry about anything else. I always fell right to sleep. I mean, I was really terrified when I read the script, and that was part of why I was determined to play the part. I just thought it was a scary movie and smart and emotionally resonant and interesting and deep and it had so many great enduring qualities, but in terms of actually making it, it was pretty straightforward.


So what does scare you?

I have a thing about crooked mountain roads with an abyss on one side. One of my nicknames in the family is "Fearless," and I have tried to in the past year think about what that means. Am I truly devoid of any fear? I think not, but I’d like to believe that I’m courageous, in that I have faith in the face of fear


ASHLEY JUDD You kickbox in Kiss the Girls -- how good a kickboxer did you become in real life?

I’m good enough that I have a lot of fun with it, and I can put a lot of flourishes into my moves. But my instructor, boy, he gets me to a place where I think I’m great and he takes me out in less than the blink of an eye. My sister and I go out to the barn at 9 o'clock every night when we're home and we work out. There's a guy in Nashville who's something of a kickbox instructor: He's a bounty hunter on the weekends and has a 2-by-4 in the back of his truck, and we just play Earth, Wind and Fire and jump around like silly children.


ASHLEY JUDD You bring a great deal of intensity to all your roles, but otherwise each one is very different from the others. Do you worry that maybe people can't get a handle on you as an actress?

First of all, thank you very much -- that means a lot to me. That's one of the ways in which I am ambitious. I don't think, "OK, I want to be in a movie that grosses X-number of dollars." I want to go to bed at night and think, "Did I use every iota of what I have available to me as a sentient being? Did I really stay present and just knock it out of the park in terms of who I am as a performer?" And a lot of my inspiration comes from the way my sister and I are matched in that way. I mean, she does not give a throwaway concert -- she does not throw away a line. She gets up there and sings from her toenails every single night. When I was in Europe, this one reporter, he said, "So, what's the next non-Ashley Judd role that Ashley Judd is gonna do?" And I appreciate having that kind of diversity and, I mean, I'm hardly Felicity from Smoke, but I got such a rise out of doing that.


ASHLEY JUDD In The Locusts, you and Vince Vaughn have a sex scene in a truck that seems to be stirring up a lot of talk.

First of all, it's not in the truck, and no clothes come off. Evidently it just rattled some cages for the housewives in Tarzana [CA]. I don't mean to use unnecessarily explicit language, but my understanding of the rating system is that during sex scenes, you can have two out of three with regards to the act of making love -- use your imaginations, fill in the blanks -- we have none of those things, so it's really peculiar to me. There's no swearing in this movie. There's no protracted making out. There's nothing. I don't understand it at all.


ASHLEY JUDD How do you feel about the price of celebrity, especially in terms of giving up your privacy?

I give up nothing: I choose to live completely impervious to all of it. I will not let the way we are in contemporary society with regards to both media speculation and scrutiny affect the way I choose to live my life. I might take the back door every now and then. I might consciously choose to be discreet about something, but I’m a little too indignant about the way the invasive press treats people in my profession to let it affect me. I’ve never felt like it was incumbent upon me to divulge the details of my personal life because I happen to be an actress, and in other countries performers are afforded that kind of dignity. It’s just not something we do in America -- yet.


ASHLEY JUDD Your mother is a very spiritual person: Can you talk about the effect being raised in a religious household has had on you?

Well, my greatest fear is actually happening -- I am becoming my mother. She always said the greatest thing her mother gave her was raising her in a Christian household, and I can now say that about my mother, too, and it doesn't to me matter so much what you specifically call your religion if you have a relationship with your creator that you cultivate, that's what counts.


ASHLEY JUDD What kind of TV did you watch as a kid?

I didn’t, really. Except for The Waltons on Thursday nights, when I would make a pizza and chocolate-chip cookies. That was my ritual, every Thursday. And when I was a Candy Striper, I had to get home from my Wednesday duty in time to watch Dynasty. But we didn't really have a TV -- the one that I watched when I was really little, I don't even know where that came from. It might have been a neighbor's, and then we did have a little TV when I was in high school


The Monday night telecast

• Oscar Overboard • The critic's picks • The nominees • The Monday night telecast

When: Monday, 9 p.m., on ABC-TV. The host: Billy Crystal.

Presenters: Jennifer Lopez, Madonna, Frances McDormand, Ashley Judd, Whoopi Goldberg, Drew Barrymore, Juliette Binoche, Neve Campbell, Meg Ryan and Elisabeth Shue.

Also, Sean Connery, Cuba Gooding Jr., Djimon Hounsou, Martin Scorsese, Denzel Washington, Samuel L. Jackson, Ben Affleck, Antonio Banderas, Matt Damon, Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau, Mike Myers, Geoffrey Rush and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Best original song performers: "Go the Distance" ("Hercules"), Michael Bolton; "How Do I Live" ("Con Air"), Trisha Yearwood; "Journey to the Past" ("Anastasia"), Aaliyah; "Miss Misery" ("Good Will Hunting"), Elliott Smith; "My Heart Will Go On" ("Titanic"), Celine Dion.


Act I: Room 1900, the Peninsula Hotel, New York City, early morning. A cheerful Ashley Judd, twenty-seven, wrapped in a hotel bathrobe, is enjoying croissants and hot chocolate. On the table is a Polaroid of boyfriend Matthew McConaughey (who plays her husband in the upcoming John Grisham movie A Time to Kill).

What do you usually wear to bed?

Nothin'. But I love my nightgown. I drove across country in it. When I saw Something to Talk About, people went nuts when Julia Roberts pops up in a bar in her nightgown, because it seemed odd. But to me it was funny because it seemed real.

What's your favorite body part?

The back of my hand -- though it's swelled up at the moment from grease and water retention -- because my hands are like my grandmother's, and remind me of my grandparents, a real poignant part of my life.

Middle America is seeing you now in your first mainstream movie [Heat ] -- but it's already watched your life portrayed in a TV docudrama, Naomi and Wynonna: Love Can Build a Bridge, based on your mom's book. (grimaces) That ain't any life I recognized. The girl was pretty and had hair like I used to have, but she was really whiny and dependent. And they filmed scenes that absolutely did not occur in real life, like me saying to my sister [Wynonna], "I don't hate you, but you got Mom -- I envy you." The three of us were watching it, and I just had a fit, totally exploded. We put it on pause and talked about it.

Who should have played you?

First thing that comes to mind is, who do I think is the best actress of my generation, and that's Jennifer Jason Leigh. But I would've never made her do such a shitty little part!

Act II: An hour later, the St. Regis Hotel dining room. Judd orders herself enough breakfast for three, explaining, "I'm on a major food holiday because I need a break between jobs. This is my free-for-all."

You may be the only young actress who doesn't smoke cigarettes, but you were smoking cigars long before it was trendy. I think it has to do with being a Kentuckian -- I love tobacco. In third and fourth grades I spent summers at my grandparents' watching a lot of baseball on TV. When my pawpaw Judd would get up from his chair to get a Pepsi or go to the bathroom, I would poke through the ashtray to find the most recent cigarette butt and drag on it.

Speaking of Smoke, thanks to that movie you were in Jerry Garcia's last video. Were you a Deadhead growing up? Not at all. I honestly thought that if I went to a Dead show, someone was gonna drop that liquid acid on me. I've never done drugs, but I wore a lot of tie-dye!

So how did you play the junkie so accurately in Smoke ? No preparation -- you just do the work. You live truthfully in the imaginary circumstances -- that's what acting is. It's fun. I mean, if I didn't have some social restraint, I'd stand up and do something right here in this restaurant. I would like to find a part in a movie that's clean, to which I could take my grandparents.

You filmed another one-scene performance for Natural Born Killers, as a witness who testifies against the serial killers. Why was it cut from the final print? It would've made the movie NC-17. The ratings board found it "too emotionally harrowing." I took that as a compliment.

Act III: A photographer's studio overlooking the Holland Tunnel. An Alison Krauss CD is blaring. Judd sits before a mirror being made up, wearing only underwear and a sheer pink chiffon robe. Her publicist comments that she looks like Mrs. Roper from Three's Company.

Did you watch a lot of television growing up? It was limited.

How about The Beverly Hillbillies ? I liked the animals Elly May had -- great big tigers and stuff, and they were all so tame. My sister says I act like a hillbilly when I go to the airport and I'm still rearranging my clothing -- with it all splayed out on the Mercedes in the parking lot.

Can you talk about your first real boyfriend? (immediately) Chris Price, in the fifth grade. (pause) Oh, you mean the giving away of my virginity? No!

How old were you? Too young. I'll just say, I was in the van, but I wasn't driving. Ha-ha-ha! (doubles over)

I was going to ask about your dating preferences, but now you have -- Sweetie Pie -- S.P. for short. I never dated very much, because it's so rare for me to be inspired. I've had a crush or two, but love is sacred, and by virtue of that, it's not pedestrian. You don't like somebody every other week.

Where did Matthew sleep when he visited your mom's? He slept in the office out in the barn -- I don't want to be disrespectful to my parents.

Aren't you twenty-seven years old? I know, but...Matthew and I lived together while doing A Time to Kill , which is not something that I would do in normal, straight life, because I don't believe in simulating marriage. You're either married or you're not.

Judd is beckoned to her place in front of the camera. She resembles an auto-repair-shop calendar girl. She playfully toys with provided props -- cigar, beer bottle, stuffed dog -- spanking the latter in a self-consciously Betty Page way.

What will your family think when they see this photograph of you? My sister's gonna have a heart attack. My mama'll just shake her head and not speak to me for a week. Then she'll assign Pop to give me a lecture. (The sound system starts playing Merle Haggard's "Okie From Muskogee," and Judd starts dancing wantonly.) Obviously, I am not from Muskogee! (Exeunt.)

Details, January 1996


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Thursday, March 26, 1998 1:42 PM Ashley Judd's Oscar Tease Of all the endless blather about what the stars were wearing on Oscar night, the hottest topic was over what one beautiful star wasn't wearing. Was there really nothing between Ashley Judd and her slinky, slit-to-nirvana Richard Tyler number? From the low-lying camera angle, millions of viewers were convinced they were treated to an eyeful of young Ashley as she strode across the stage at Shrine Auditorium. But was there really something indecent about her appearance? We at Mr. Showbiz decided to get to the, er, bottom, of this controversy, so we charged several of our most lascivious editors with the task of watching—in slow-motion, over and over and over again—Ashley's trek to the podium. The verdict? After careful analysis, our experts have determined that there's nothing more than a shadow visible onscreen, and anything else that you may have thought you saw is simply the result of your overactive imagination. But don't take our word for it. Judd's publicist insists that her client "was not naked underneath," although that could be interpreted any number of ways, from body glitter to perfume. Of course, it's not surprising that there would be some question as to whether Ashley went bare. The actress's dislike of underwear is well documented. Back in 1995, she revealed to Oprah Winfrey that she never dons skivvies, and Ashley told us that she only keeps "a couple of cute flowery pairs in cotton" for wardrobe fittings and the like. "You don't want to gross out the salespeople, or take advantage of that fabulous loan policy," she said. Richard Tyler will be so relieved.





Tuesday, October 29, 1996 0:00 AM Ashley Judd Dating Michael Bolton It's one of those bizarre pairings that can only occur in Hollywood. Hot actress du jour Ashley Judd, who will soon make waves with her performance opposite Luke Perry in Normal Life, was spotted on the lap of--gulp--Michael Bolton at the Dolce & Gabbana fashion show in New York on Sunday. The two, who were introduced last month by Ashley's singing sister Wynonna, were reportedly smooching it up all evening. Judd has been linked in the past with Robert De Niro, while Bolton carried on a long-term relationship with actress Nicolette Sheridan.

Monday, June 16, 1997 0:00 AM Matthew McConaughey and Ashley Judd Back Together? They were briefly an item while making A Time To Kill, in which they played husband and wife, but both have been linked to other people since. Now People magazine's Mitchell Fink reports that Matthew McConaughey, last seen with his other Time To Kill co-star, Sandra Bullock, and Ashley Judd, who was recently attached to crooner Michael Bolton, were smoldering at the MTV Movie Awards. The magazine reports that the two left the post-awards party together and showed up, along with Cameron Diaz, Salma Hayek, and Claire Danes, at a small soiree thrown by a studio exec. An eyewitness tells the mag that McConaughey soon dropped trou and hopped into the Jacuzzi, where he was joined by an underwear-clad Judd. "We're great friends who hadn't seen each other in a year," explains Judd. McConaughey, for his part, admits to being in the tub with Judd, but insists that he was wearing a red, white, and blue Tommy Hilfiger bathing suit. This story solves the mystery of a cryptic one-liner in Army Archerd's Variety column last week, which referred to McConaughey and Judd as a "hot (tub) item." Boy, are we relieved.






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