More Anti-Human than Pro-Animal


"To think that some poor animal dies just so we can eat...that is just so cruel. Those poor, innocent animals never asked to be our slaves! Humans should leave them in the wild where they belong."

If you've ever listened to animal rights activists, chances are good you would've heard them say those things.

Green Peace Not So Warm And Fuzzy
PEta Kills Animals
H$U$ Kills Animals too.

What Everyone Should Know about Animal Rights

Animal welfare and rights terms

Think animal welfare is better than animal rights? They're one and the same, the only difference being animal welfare people don't necessarily subscribe to some of the extremes such as veganism. Animal welfare consists of the SPCAs and so-called 'humane' societies, private 'rescues' and 'shelter' workers. Sounds good, but their halos are very tarnished.

Animal welfare is just as guilty of human and animal abuse. This abuse takes the form of 'rescue' where they manipulate, possibly bribe a judge into giving them a warrant to raid somebody's house or farm, ranch or kennel, steal their animals and accuse the owner of abuse, even when there was no abuse. All it takes is one animal dying in a stilbirth for the animal welfarists to scream "There were dead animals on his property!" and a normal amount of fecies - there is bound to be some around with animals - for the animal welfarists to rave "They had poop on their property! The animals were living in filth!"

SPCA Raids

Do you think the animal welfare and animal rights movements are all about showing endless compassion for those cute and furry critters with four legs, wagging tails, or little two-legged ones with feathers? Have you thought that if they are so caring about animals they'd be compassionate toward children, holocaust victims and survivers, or people who lose loved ones in wild animal attacks? Think again.

It would be horrible beyond words losing your child to a mauling by a wild animal. But to then be slandered and blamed for the death would be the ultimate insult, and that's exactly what so-called compassionate, caring, ethical animal rights activists have done to such a family.

By now, you're probably staring in disbelief. It can't really be that bad! Right?

WRONG!

See for yourself.

Adding Insult to Grief

PEta aims to terrorize children and break up families. Well, what else would you call a campaign that tells kids their mothers are murderers just for owning a fur coat? And one has to wonder where PEta got all the blood for their March anti-KFC campaign to scare kids out of eating KFC.

Fur Flies Over Flier

Kentucky Fried Blood? Peta's anti-KFC campaign March 2004

"We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels." -- Carl Amery

"We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion -- guilt-free at last!" -- Stewart Brand (writing in the Whole Earth Catalogue)

Have you ever come across somebody who believes it's wrong to eat meat or wear leather because an animal died? Before you're even tempted to give into the guilt-tripping the animal rights people love to pull on you, consider this. Animals eat meat, and they are nowhere near as humane about killing other animals as people. Now, some might argue that animals don't have the tools it takes to be humane. True, but you know what? Even if they did, they wouldn't care.

7 Things You Didn't Know About PEta That site has a link to a .wav where Ingrid Newkirk states the goal of PEta as being "Total animal liberation". She claims in the same wav there is no hidden agenda, but that's not exactly true. Because if you don't know what their idea of 'total animal liberation' is, chances are you don't know that it means no pets, no farms, no zoos, no contact with animals or use of animal products in anything period. No rights to our own property or protection from wild animals that intrude on it. This means that a wild animal could harm you or your child and you'd get in trouble just for trying to protect yourself, after all, according to animal rights/environmentalism, the wild animals own the world and everything and everyone in it; humans are considered the unnatural intrudors.

Cougars, Sound Science

PMU Farms, Sorting the Lies From the Truth

The Sob-Story Anti-Seal Hunt Lies hurt Aborigian peoples and deceive everybody else.

Before you give into the guilt-trip over wearing fur or leather, just remember that other animals sometimes exploit resources they can get from animals too. A mouse may line its nest with fur from some other animal, whether or not the animal died is neither here nor there to the mouse. Warring chimpanzee troops might take infants of their own species from the enemy camps and use them as shields or battering rams. No kidding, nature is not a utopia where the animals live idillic lives. The people who follow the animal rights dogma don't want you to think about that when they push for ending pet ownership or free animals from labs to starve, freeze, or die of disease in the wild, a place the captive bred animals never knew in the first place, so wouldn't miss. It is cruel to release a captive born animal who isn't prepared for it, into the wild, and releasing them into the wrong habitat can be devastating to them and or to the native wildlife that's already there.

Then there are the animal parasites who exploit to live.

Okay, so maybe the animal rights movements are just a bit offbeat, maybe they just don't quite see the whole picture objectively. After all, they care so much for the animals who can't speak for themselves.

Well, not quite. First off, it doesn't take belief in animal rights to care for animals. If you are confronted by animal rights people and express disagreement with them, they may try telling you how little you care about the animals. That's a favorite trick of theirs, the guilt-trip and the put-down are favored methods next to spinning terrible tales about animal abuse or neglect in order to make you emotional enough not to question them or their goals. See How They Care. This link contains a couple of parodies that illustrate the animal rights extremist tactics very well.

What are their goals, then?

1. Stop humans from having anything to do with animals at all, whether it's stopping eating or wearing of animal products or keeping pets. The Humane Society of the US - HSUS and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - PEta believe animals are better off dead than living with humans. The Captive Wildlife Protection Coalition CWPC is no different. It supports and is associated with animal rights groups including PEta and HSUS. These animal rights groups are not above using crooked politics, money, and mass media and public manipulation to get their way. That's how the sad situation of pet banning is a reality or very close to becoming a reality in places such as California, and now Chicago.

2. Stop medical research that involves animal testing.

3. Stop the human race period.
Protesters Carry the Fight to Executives' Homes

Before you cry over the animals in the stories animal rights people love to tell, keep in mind a few of these points:

Carl Amery of the Green Movement longs for a world in which damage to a forest is considered worse than the sexual molestation of a child!!

Ingrid Newkirk, the founder and president of PEta thinks eating chickens is as bad or worse than what hitler did to the Jews!

Hitler believed we had no right to put our own species first. Yet for his supposed reverence toward animals, his cruelty toward humans is obvious. Top it off with his hypocritical act of poisoning his own dog.

Prince Philip, Wildlife Fund, wants to be reincarnated as a virus to kill off humans!

Ingrid Newkirk blames her father for his own death, and uses it as a platform for her veganism religion.
Don't Wait a copy of Ingrid Newkirk's 'Don't Wait' message in full
Indianna Who on Ingrid Newkirk's "Don't Wait" article

Ingrid Newkirk wants to be barbicued and consumed because she equates eating meat with cannibalism! Cannibalism is the eating of one's own species, it is not when a person gets eaten by another animal, nor does it occur when humans eat meat from other animals as Ingrid Newkirk and some other animal rights people erroniously claim.

Tom Regan would save a dog before saving a baby!

Michael W. Fox, vice President of the Humane Society of the U.S. HSUS places equal value on the life of an ant as on his own child!

Peter Singer believes that torturing a human being is not always wrong, and that all experiments should be done on brain damaged people instead of animals!

Chris de Rose thinks a rat's life is more important than trying to cure disease!

Les U. Knight would like an end to the human race, believing that would solve every hardship for animals on earth!

John Bryant, author of "Fettered Kingdoms" and quoted by PEta, believes owning pets is committing slavery!

The HSUS Humane Society of the U.S. would rather kill your exotic pets than let you own them! For that matter, the HSUS is in fact, against pet ownership, period. And when they take your animals away, they kill them or mistreat them.

Peta kills many animals instead of saving them.

Woody Pathwai Speaks Out Showcasing various animal rights postings on the internet.
PETA kills homeless pets
PeTA's Zeal
Independent Media Center - webcast news" Peta Kills More Animals Than it Saves
The HSUS Guidelines for Responsible Adoption Programs If that link isn't working, go here to see what the HSUS says about killing exotic animals rather than letting them be pets. It was taken from the HSUS site.

Even your pet birds are targetted for the animal rights pet killing agenda. This link may take a while to load because of the image and sounds on the page.

Quotes from Animal Rights Activists

Animal rights/welfarists play on our fear of violence at the hands of serial killers. They claim violence done to animals becomes violence to humans. The trouble is, they do not distinguish between violence committed by sadistic moneters from the necessary killing of animals for food.

Animal rights-ism has some lies about pet foods too, one being that dogs and cats can live without meat, substituting their vegan pet foods instead.

Another horrible myth claims that in the pet foods that contain animal products, that dogs and cats are being rendered and put into pet food, therefore, your dog or cat could be eating meat from their own kind. Many pro-pet sites and libraries, Amazon and other sites promote the book "Food Pets Die For" by Ann N. Martin and Michael W. Fox (Vice president of HSUS) that claims pets are put into pet food. A site selling their own dog food claims this is being done to other pet foods.
Cost Comparison Dog Food Pricing They even go as far as to claim that the FDA doesn't check into or do anything about the supposed practice of feeding sick livestock and pets to pets.

To refute these claims:
USFDA Regulation of Pet Food
Pet Food Research This link makes it clear dog-eat-dog is not being made to occur concerning pets and pet foods.

With HSUS wanting an end to pet ownership, and a healthy proffit from the shock value of the book, as well as benefitting the Flint River Ranch company from the sale of their product, their motives for touting this horrible idea could be called into question. Someone on a mailing list has witnessed evidence that seems to support the myth, so I can't say for certain it isn't happening at all, but is hopefully justan isolated case.

Having said that however, cannibalism does occur naturally, varying in frequency and regularity in many species. It's all part of a way of life for some fish and spiders. Sometimes a mouse will kill and eat her young if she's depleted or threatened and unable to move her babies out of danger. The reasons behind cannibalism aren't all that well understood. It's creepy, ugly, and seems to us to be un-natural and something that shouldn't happen. The eating of related or similar animals is something else that goes on. A large snake will eat a smaller snake, birds eat birds, primates may eat other primates, chimpanzees and baboons like meat when they can get it and have been known to eat weaker or found dead members of each other's species. Large feline and canine species eat each other in the wild as well, and coyotes are known to eat domestic dogs and cats. But dog is not a regular part of a coyote's diet any more than baboons and chimps are regularly on each other's menu.

With cannibalism there may be greater risk of the consumer getting sick because it's so easy for disease to pass on within any one species. So even minus the gross-out factor, feeding dogs and cats to dogs and cats is not a good idea.

Discussion Group
Pathwai.org: Countering Animal Rights Nonsense
Animal Rights Myths Faq V.1.2 (1/2)
Animal Rights Myths Faq V.2.2 (2/2)

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Soy Sucks!
Don't look at me, I didn't name that page. Immature as that title is, the page does have some good information on it but inserting a personal note here, I wish people would come up with something better than 'sucks' to make a point. It's juvenile and crude and makes it less likely to be taken seriously.

Animal rights/environmental movements also perpetuate the lie about global warming, and at least some of them know it's a lie.

"What we've got to do in energy conservation is try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, to have approached global warming as if it is real means energy conservation, so we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy." -- Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado)

A Cold Look at the Myths of Global Warming
Global Warming Myth Costs the Earth
Melting the Global Warming Myth

Do you think all animal sanctuaries are lovely little animal havens as the media portrays them to be? There is even mistreatment of animals, office politics, and people trying to take away your rights to own anything other than a domestic dog or cat among the animal sanctuaries as well. ASA, the American Sanctuary Association is headed by Tippi Hedren, who wants an end to exotic pet ownership. If you think exotic pet ownership only means big cats and large reptiles, think again. Exotic pets are anything that isn't a domestic dog or cat. This includes chinchillas, ferrets, birds, and many other small animals as well.

Animal Owners United Protecting Animal Pet Owners' Rights

The Wild Animal Orphanage is an example of a sanctuary owned by animal rights extremists. Ron and Carol Asvestas not only want to end exotic pet ownership for everyone else, but they, like Tippi Hedren, want to be exempt from their own rules and be allowed to keep all the animals they want. That is not even the worst of it. Wild Animal Orphanage, Sanctuary or Animal Hell

Animal rights goes even further than just lie about animal owners. They contribute directly to extreme emotional and physical cruelty.

Animal rights and animal welfare supports the banning of pets and the stealing of pets out of private homes. The people who raid private homes and take animals away on their owners are especially brutal and abusive. They routinely stage scenes to look like severe abuse or neglect. Animal raiders have been known to obtain illegal warrants, storm the houses of private citizens, abuse and kill animals while raiding the homes, or keeping them alive to sell for proffit. All the while, claiming *they* rescued some animal from an abusive situation they staged in the first place.

There are always ar and aw oriented so-called animal rescues that gang up on innocent people and make up any excuse to get the animals snatched away mercilessly from their owners. They'll brainwash, bully, bribe/pay off people in power in order to accomplish these crimes. They will keep on getting away with this brutality until officials grab brains, get consciences, stop being fooled by ars, and stop letting themselves be manipulated into perpetuating terrible injustices against people who own x number of this or that animal. Animal bans are evil. They label you a criminal even if you are the most law abiding citizen, by declaring that animal illegal. It is not the animal owners who are the real criminals, but the raiders that invade homes and steal away beloved pets so they can shut them up in lonely sanctuaries in a miserable life sentense, sell them for proffit, or kill them outright. All in the name of animal protection.

Animal raders don't care about anything but what ar and aw dictate, how they can proffit from the theft of these animals, and how good they can make themselves feel by storming homes and dragging off or even killing pets right in front of their owners, including children. It is not unheard of for raiders to stomp chicks to death in front of their owners and the children. Yes, this is how brutal ar can get.

Animal raders have a middle ages crusade mindset, and they are so deluded and depraved that they think they're doing good. And like the crusaders, the money and power tripping really make them tick. The animal raders of today are just another form of crusader, inquisition, witch burners. They would do even more harm to their fellow human beings if the law allowed it. They do their best to appear heroic and compassionate for the camera, but what the camera doesn't catch is the preparation of the raid, where abuse is committed by the raiders, filth is dumped on the property, food bowls and water bottles are emptied, and animals are wetted down and burned to look starved and abused. Yes, raiders really do stoop that low.

Unbelievably, there are pet lovers who actually embrace PEta, the HSUS, Green Peace, and other animal rights groups, not caring or just not thinking they are not out to end pet ownership. There are animal lovers who sell out to ar oriented organizations to fight animal cruelty where it might but more likely, may not even exist, because the issue is so emotionally charged that they don't look for a hidden agenda or if what is presented is even true at all.

Take for example the pet owner who keeps any number of domestic and/or exotic animals. He or she rejoices over some bulletin that some fund for animals claims to have rescued thousands of some supposedly endangered species. But chances are they didn't look a little deeper into that organization's agenda, which includes the support of exotic pet ban proposals, touting that exotic animals are dangerous, sickly, and suffering in human company.

Or the pet lover who passes around several petitions that, while appearing on the surface to have the best intentions, getting some cruel person punished, the source of the petition is suspect when it's from a site with an animal rights bent. These people leap first, ask questions later or never.

Cases of extreme animal cruelty at the hands of a pet owner do happen, but they are very rare, and they make headlines. And the headlines are far less frequent than the horror stories and petitions from ar sites passed around and bought into by animal rights and emotional people alike. If you want to make yourself miserable, depressed, angry, bitter, and do it all needlessly, just sign up for ar action alerts, news letters, petitions, because animal rights organizations send out vast amounts of horrible stories of cruelty beyond belief, at frequencies that make it appear as if it's a normal and insurmountable plague. But you know the old addage about believing only a fraction of what you see and hear, and that definitely holds true for any and all animal rights/enviro/eco alarmist literature out there.

When caught up in the emotional rush that comes from the belief, too many people don't want to be told that killing an animal no matter how cruelly done is not 'murder' it is torturing an animal to death. 'murder' is strictly meant for humans killing other humans. So one of the signs that a source is animal rights oriented or at the very least, manipulated into emotional hysteria is when they call the killing of animals 'murder'. It might seem to be a small detail on the surface, but it's just one way animal rights uses to bring people down on the same level as animals. But people swept up in emotion don't want to be reminded to actually think and ask questions about where they are getting their stories or stats from, and by gosh, they should. Because that's a big reason animal rights gets believed as much as it does.

Late March and April 2004, a spate of ar petitions plagued the internet or at least exotic animal groups at yahoogroups. Astoundingly, there are still people who actually believe in the ar tale about the great Canadian harpseal hunts, currently being touted by the IFA, an animal rights organization that is against exotic pet ownership and yet manage to fool far too many people into believing they are some sort of great heroic outfit that saves wildlife from wildly exaggerated, distorted or nonexistant parils.

Online petitions, when the source is suspect, just aren't worth getting all worked up over and are not to be believed. Most of the horrendous cruelty reports online come from questionable sources, often about things that supposedly already happened that can't be undone.

Do we really need more depression and emotional problems being unnecessarily manufactured? The world has far too much real misery in it without adding any more, needlessly. Animal rights and gloom and doom environmentalism does nothing but tout erronious theories and tales designed to scare, depress/sadden, guilt, or cause feelings of futility, and even disdain for our own species.

The ars lie about animal experimentation being cruel and always done on lovable dogs, cats, bunnies and monkeys. The monkey owners are against animal experimentation on monkeys and believe every grossly exaggerated ar story about poor monkeys being tortured or killed. Dog and cat owners can be manipulated in the same way. Ars love to make up stories about dogs and cats being eaten in parts of Asia, but they make sure to tighten the emotional snare by claiming the animals are all tortured to death - ars call it 'murder'. Make no mistake about it, animal rights is racist. Whether dogs and cats are eaten in Asia is none of our business. Let them eat what they want and have available to them. They don't tell us what to eat here in North America, only our home grown ar nutcases do that.

There are traces of sadism that show up among people who appear at first to be normal, sensible members of society. But their love or obsession with some animal species causes them to side with the ar against necessary procedures such as animal experiments, eating, etc. I was once on an exotic pet internet community, which I left in disgust when the subject of a snake bite death came up. Some cook in a third world or developing country was going to kill a snake to serve as food in his restaurant. But the snake was venomous, it bit and killed him. It was supposedly an endangered species of snake, so the people in the exotic pet forum were expressing satisfaction over the cook's death. It turned my stomach. I couldn't believe what was being said! This was a human life, and not even that of a criminal. This wasn't a rapist that got killed, it was a guy who killed a snake for food. And they acted like he got what he deserved!

My own position on a number of animal rights issues is quite controvercial, because I won't sell out to support what I see as one evil against another. I will fight animal cruelty wherever I can, *if* it really exists. But I will not help an animal rights oriented organization to do it, neither will I accept offers of help from animal rights people under any circumstances.

You do not have to be ar to be against animal cruelty, you just have to be against cruelty, and to be against cruelty and oppression is to be against ar. Because ar is pro-cruelty to both humans and animals no matter how they shout otherwise. Look at the quotes from ar activists.

If you hear of a cruelty story, you have to be willing to put your emotions aside long enough to discern who the source of the story is, if they are credible or if they are animal rights. If ar is not in any way involved, chances are the cruelty story is for real and not exaggerated.

About animal sport and use...Race horses and sled dogs love to run. That's what they live for. So let them run! Some are retired when they're too old to race, some are put down, and yes, sometimes putting an animal down is necessary, particularly if they've suffered an injury that can't be mended, or an illness that would otherwise kill them painfully. Animal and human experiments are necessary. They help save and improve the quality of life. Pet foods need to be tested on, you guessed it, animals! Same for medications that are being worked on to help animals as well as us to live longer, healthier lives.

What should be done with the real torturers - not everybody ar accuses of it?

The person who beats, burns, or does some other form of torture to another living thing whether it's a human or animal, should be locked up forever, with the key thrown away...Either that or put to death so they'll never inflict themselves and their sadism on anyone or anything again.

Having said that, torture does not include inflicting pain by accident or through some medical procedure, sometimes pain is an unfortunate side effect of a procedure that no one wants to get or inflict. Sadism is a whole other thing. The odd person who gets into the news because of some cruelty they inflicted like beating a dog or setting a cat on fire - this is the type of person who ceases to be human and needs to be removed from society, away from all potential victims, children, animals, any living breathing thing. It may even be necessary to hurt or kill a person who is threatening you or your loved ones with your lives. And I can definitely understand wanting to haul off and slug someone who has committed cruelty.

The only thing I don't understand is people that want to torture them back. There's a huge difference between getting mad or scared enough to punch a sadist's lights out, and inflicting on them whatever they did to something or someone else. One is justifiable outrage and horror, the other is simply revenge. if you beat someone to death who beat your cat to death you've just put yourself down on their level. A beating is a beating is a beating.

-Indianna

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