DESCENDANTS OF EDWARD WITHERS (1788-1870 Berkshire) & JEMIMA TUBB (1803 Baydon,Wilts-1882)


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Version 21.3.2008, 0.1 mgb, 27 A4 size pages

Compiled by     KIT WITHERS

email kitw"att"slingshot.co.nz  - (I write "att" for @ to foil spammers.)
101 Allington Road, Karori, Wellington 6012, New Zealand  phone +64 4 476 9554 
I am Q5252 here.

For most of my other family trees see http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/genealogy.html
 

WHAT'S NEW? . I've removed the children of Ida & Col. Wm MALONE as they are already up at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/malone/malone.html . On 22.8.2005 I visited the old cemetery in Wanganui & sought out the graves of our ancestors Q5 Edward WITHERS 1845-1921, his 1st wife Agnes 1840-1886 & his 2nd wife Gertrude 1836-1906. There is a stone for Gertrude but none acknowledging Edward & Agnes. I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS REMEDIED WITH SMALL PLAQUES IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR GRAVES. -2006: No support for this idea from familyy so I have paid for these myself. CONTENTS page (A4 size) 1. The family of Edward WITHERS (1788 Lambourn-1870 Newbury) and Jemima TUBB (1803 Baydon,Wilts-1882 Newbury,Berkshire) 2 Appendices: 2. Aramoho cemetery records, Wanganui a. Abbreviations used 22 b. Dates 23 c. Numbering systems used " d. Sources " e. Index of place names -where they appear " f. Index of family names -where they first appear 24 g. Some web links " 25 2. Family members on email 26

PRIVACY ISSUES The primary purpose of these family trees is to preserve the history of the families and to enable contact between members. So I include living members and a method of contact if I can. If for any reason you would like your contact details excluded please let me know.


1. The family of Edward WITHERS (1788 Lambourn,Berkshire-1870 Newbury.) 
& Jemima TUBB (1803 Baydon,Wilts-1882 Newbury)

 SUMMARY:

Q Edward WITHERS (1788 Lambourn-1870 Newbury) 
 m2 1844 Jemima TUBB (1803 Baydon,Wiltshire-1882 Newbury)     2
Q5 Edward WITHERS (1845 Newbury-1921 Wanganui) 
 m1 Agnes Mary NEWTON (1840 Pangbourne,Berks-1886 Wanganui) 
 to NZ 1884 on the RUAPEHU                                     3
Q52 Edward Stroude WITHERS (1871 Donnington-1922 Auckland)
 m Lisa WHITSON (1872 Auckland-1936 Auckland)                  5
Q523 Maurice S WITHERS (1906-1942 Tripoli) m Dweena FOOTE      8
Q525 Wynn WITHERS (1914-1982 Auckland) m Laurette RUSSELL     11

Q54 Ida WITHERS (1875 Donnington-1946) m Lt.-Col. Bill MALONE 16 See
Q541 Denis MALONE (1906 New Plymouth-1983) m Anita WOLFERMANN    malone.html
Q543 Mollie MALONE (1910 New Plymouth-1979) m Richard YOUNG   

[Q5 Edward WITHERS (1845-1921 Wanganui)] m2 Gertrude MCEWEN   18
Q57 Roy S WITHERS (1897 Wanganui-1970) m1 Rosamond RATHBONE    "
Q571 Ted WITHERS (1925 Wanganui-1995) m Elspeth SIMPSON       19
Q572 Shah WITHERS (1927 Wanganui -1992) m Janet ROBERTSON     20
Q573 Ida WITHERS (1929 Wanganui) m Jock Morgan VEITCH         22
Q574 Robert James WITHERS (1932 Wanganui) m Jacqueline BOUBEE  "
[Q57 Roy S WITHERS (1897 Wanganui-1970)] m2 Bruce Helen VEITCH "

 DETAILS:

Q 7-Edward WITHERS (bp 29.11.1788 Lambourn, Berks-14.1.1870 Newbury) Farmer at
Bayley Hill Farm, Baydon. He married twice: see m1 and m2 below. Death cert.
"gentleman, of Mount Villa, Newtown Rd, Newbury" Will made 6.11.1862 at
Newbury & proved in London 25.2?.1870 left his estate to his 2nd wife Jemima
& their son Edward. Re his family bible, see Q5. He inscribed the Foxe's
Book of Martyrs (2nd edition c1730, now held by sp-Q525) "Edward Withers,
Hillgreen, 1857". Hillgreen is a hamlet 2m SE of Leckhamstead on B4494. Its
manor has gone now & only 9 homes remained in 1994. See pink photo of
Hillgreen House. For more info write Mrs SUTTON, the parish clerk,
Leckhamstead, Newbury. 
Here is a photo of him in his latter days. He is 3842 81 in WITHERS OF BERKSHIRE AND HAMPSHIRE 1666-present, .1 mgb at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withers/withersberks.html a branch of WITHERS OF BISHOPS CANNINGS, WILTSHIRE: 1550-present, .1 mgb at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withers/withers.html
 See these files for his ancestors.

For Edward WITHERS' other family trees in England, descending from
John DYSNER (b 14xx) who held the Free Chapel of Winterbourne Monckton,
 Dorset of the Abbott of Glastonbury, Somerset,
Nicholas SLOPER (d between 1530 and 1538) of Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire
William WITHERS paid subsidy 1550 at Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire,
John NASH of Devizes (d 1502)
Stephen KING (b c1603 Bishops Cannings-1664 All Cannings, Wiltshire)
Thomas QUELCH (-1733 East Garston,Berkshire) and Ann CLARK (b 16xx) of Newbury,
DOBLE, HOPKINS, PALMER, STROUD, TARRANT, and TUBB, see
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/sloper/sloper.html,
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/nash/nash.html,
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/king/king.html,
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/quelch/quelch.html,
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/stroud/stroud.html,
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/hopkins/hopkins.html,
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/palmer/palmer.html,
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/tarrant/tarrant.html,
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/tubb/tubb.html

m1 30.11.1812 Uffington sp-Sarah THATCHER (27.3.1794 Uffington-30.6.1823 
  Baydon) 4 children. The 3 surviving children moved to AUSTRALIA. For this
branch see 

http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withersoz/withersoz.html.

THE AUSTRALIAN BRANCH

 

m2 17.10.1844 Baydon sp-Jemima TUBB (bp 14.8.1803 Baydon,Wiltshire-18.11.1882) 
 bur 24 Nov 1882 aged 79 at Newbury, St John the Evangelist (so b c1803)

 1871 census Schedule 57, 2 Mont Felks??, Newbury Berks:
Jemima WITHERS head wid 69? 1824 Retired Farmer's wife? b Wilts, Baydon
Lucille TANCREEN?? Serv U 12? Domestic Servant b Stroude?? (county), Cocsmsa??
 Next door is her brother? [?7 in tubb.html above]:
 Schedule 57, 1 Mont Felks??, Newbury Berks: 
James TUBB Head M 65? 1806? Retired Farmer b Wilts, Barrick Bassett 
Caroline TUBB wife M 65 1806 b Hants, Bullington
Jane COOK Relation? U 69 b Wilts, Marlborough
 Next door again is the father of Jemima's daughter in law Agnes Mary NEWTON:
 1871 census Schedule 56, Belle Vue Villa??, Newbury Berks:      [My NEWTON ID]
Thomas NEWTON head wid? 67 Agricultural Value?? b Oxon, South Stoke   [0]
Robert NEWTON Son U 24 1847 No occupation b Berks, Pangbourne         [6]
George D NEWTON Son U 30? 1841 No occupation b Berks, Woodspeen       [7]
Elizabeth LENT? stewardship?? W 34? Domestic Servant b Berks, Denshworth?


 1881 census a widow living with her son Q5 Edward and 
his family at Earlstok Villa, London Rd, Batheaston, Somerset:
For more details see http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withers/withersberks.html

Jemima is 2 in our TUBB family at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/tubb/tubb.html

Q5 (3842815) 8-Edward WITHERS (23.7.1845 Hill Green,Newbury,Berkshire-11.9.1921
Wanganui, buried 13.9.1921 Wanganui) Death Certificate: Edward WITHERS miller,
d 11.9.1921 at Wanganui Hospital from "343 [Victoria? missing name] Avenue,
Wanganui of chronic endocarditis 5 yrs & corchiac? syncope 5 minutes; son of
Edward WITHERS farmer and Jemima nee TUBB; buried 13.9.1921 at Wanganui
Cemetery by AO WILLIAMS Church of England; born in Newbury,England; 37 years
in NZ [so to NZ 1883/84]; m1 at Newbury, England aged 23 to Agnes Mary
NEWTON; m2 at Wanganui aged 52 to Gertrude Annie MCEWEN; leaves no widow, M
issue aged 49,47,23,3 and F issue aged 45 & 1; J MARTIN undertaker Wanganui).
 1872-79 living with family by m1 at Donnington, Berkshire - see 1881 census.
 In 1880 he & his mother owned the Cross House in Eastbury near Lambourn, Berks
built by his grandfather Jason WITHERS in 1789 (3842 8 at withersberks.html); 
his address was Bailbrook Lodge, London Road, Bath & his profession miller. 
 Until the 1960s Bailbrook Lodge was a "Lunatick Asylum"; it is now a 
conference centre - see http://www.sundialgroup.com/BailbrookHouse/ for a 
photo. Was he a patient or was he just living close by? 
This 1840 ad for it, 50 kb, is courtesy of Daniel BROWN danielbrown001"att"hotmail.com 2003. Here is its text.
 
 There is quite a lot of information about Bailbroke House in the
Somerset County Records Office (including some beautiful coloured
plans showing rather grim looking rooms for the inmates) - DB.
 In the 1881 census he was living with his wife and 6 children and mother 
just E of Bailbrook Lodge at Earlstoke Villa; his birthplace is listed as
Hill Green, Berkshire. (Hillgreen is a parish near Leckhampstead in district of
Newbury subdistrict Speen). For details of 1871 & 1881 entry see below his m1. 
Daniel BROWN danielbrown001"att"hotmail.com 2003 notes that Earlstoke Villa is still there at 172 London Rd, now in flats, & has sent this 1880 map showing it Bailbrook House is just off the map to the left. Below about a mile? is Batheaston Flour Mill. 50 kb
Here is a photo of Earlstoke Villa taken by Daniel Dec. 2003 - 5kb;
and a front view - 5kb;
and a photo of the door - 3kb; all thanks to DB.
 (For the history of Batheaston see the book by DOBBIE, B.M. Willmott & 
S. Catherine AN ENGLISH RURAL COMMUNITY Batheaston with Bath University, 1969.)

 Bath's Principal Archivist Colin JOHNSTON Colin_Johnston"att"bathnes.gov.uk 2003:
I have checked local directories which show Edward WITHERS was only in
Batheaston for a short time. Directories were published every other
year. He does not appear in the 1880 directory, when Earlstoke Villa
was occupied by George CLARK, gentleman, and Batheaston Mill by
Matthew COOMBES, corn-merchant & miller. In 1882 Edward WITHERS,
miller, is listed at Earlstoke Villa, with COOMBES still at Batheaston
Mill. In 1884 Edward is shown at Craven House, Newbridge Road, Bath,
and descibed as a miller. Edward is not listed in 1886 and had
presumably moved away from Bath. COOMBES is still shown at Batheaston
Mill, so if it was there that Edward worked briefly in 1881-82 he was
an employee and not the owner. I know of no surviving records of
Batheaston Mill, and am sorry not to be able to suggest any other
source which might give information on Edward's place of employment.
 DB: The Mill burnt down in 1907, it has now been converted into a Hotel/ 
restaurant but bears little resemplance to the original.
www.oldmillbath.co.uk/history.htm is a link to the Hotel's website. The old 
photo shows how the mill used to look. Earlstoke Villa is one of the houses to 
the left of it up the hill.
 The family may have also lived in Reading.
 He came to NZ 1884 with his 1st wife Agnes nee NEWTON & their 6 children on 
the ship "the RUAPEHU".
 From the Comber Index - In 1884 the RUAPEHU made two voyages to New Zealand:
27.2.1884    Arrived Auckland
8.3.1884      Arrived Wellington
13.3.1884    Arrived Port Charmers
25.3.1884    Arrived Lyttelton
 Departed from Plymouth 31.05.1884
 (confirmed by http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Forest/2925/wellington3.html
  off "Immigrant Ships to NZ" at
  http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Forest/2925/shipstonz.htm )
14.7.1884    Arrived Wellington
21.7.1884    Arrived Lyttelton       
 Departed from London 25.09.1884 - arrived when??
** I have not been able to find them on the PASSENGER LISTS at 
   the National Archives, Wellington. Nor at the site of dapw"att"globe.net.nz
 namely http://members.nbci.com/denisepeter/OurPassengerLists1.htm
 nor at http://www2.symet.net/whitehouse/nzbound/siteindex.htm
However the Auckland Public Library site
 http://www.akcity.govt.nz/library/family/whatship.html states
 "In the Auckland Research Centre you will find:
  Passenger lists from newspapers indexed for 1840-1899. Almost complete."
 Can someone have a look? 
I shall contact them on Library_Webeditor"att"akcity.govt.nz

Auckland Passenger Vessels 1838-1885
 http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/vessels/vessels.html
  gives the 2 visits by the RUAPEHU:

Vessel: 	RUAPEHU
Captain's name: 	W. C. CRUTCHLEY
Port of departure: 	London via Plymouth and Teneriffe via Hobart
Date of arrival: 	27 February 1884
Port of arrival: 	Auckland
Vessel type: 	Steamship
Tonnage: 	4162
Notes: 	2 NZL IMM, NZShCo, 17, 10 January 1884
Source: 	New Zealand Herald, 28 February 1884

Vessel:  	RUAPEHU
Captain's name: 	H. E. GREENSTREET
Port of departure: 	London via Capetown, Hobart, Dunedin and Wellington
Date of arrival: 	10 December 1885
Port of arrival: 	Auckland
Vessel type: 	Steamship
Tonnage: 	2655
Source: 	New Zealand Herald, 11 December 1885

I emailed Library_Family_History"att"aucklandcity.govt.nz 2003 for more info.
 She replied:
Our databases 'Auckland Area Passenger Arrivals 1838-1886'  and 'Auckland
Passenger Vessels 1838-1885' is compiled almost entirely from newspaper
shipping announcements.  The newspapers noted as the source will list the
passenger list of each ship.  
 You will find the 'Southern Cross' and 'New Zealand Herald' on microfilm at
the National Library of New Zealand in Wellington.


Wise's NZPO directories: 1891-7 Nixon Place, Wanganui; 
1901-4 flour-miller at Upper Tutaenui Rd, Marton: going N from Marton turn R
onto Somersal Lane (before Jefferson's Rd) & L immediately to
Fitzherbert's farm, Somersal, & mill location -no longer there. The
mill was started 1864 by farmer W GALPIN. 1908 flourmiller 225
Victoria Ave.,Wanganui; (this site opposite the St John PO became the
Red Pepper Inn and in 2000 is a gas station; this is contradicted below.) 
 1912-20 settler 229 Victoria Ave. The mill was in Taupo Quay,
& later was Smith's Carrier yard opposite the old railway station. It had a
long roofline. It is now the site of K-mart.  Most wheat he milled was grown
up river by Maori. Later the Maori established 2 small mills at Tokorima &
Pipiriki. The Wanganui Herald of 12.9.1921(?) p5 col.1 notes that after
retiring from the flour industry he was on the clerical staff of the Borough 
Council, that he had played Poobah in The Mikado, & was a layreader at Christ 
Church. Ted Q571 had receipt for 3 pounds for a burial site dated 22.12.1906 
bought by Gertrude. The Rangitikei Advocate of 12.9.1921 notes that he was 
well-known in Rangitikei. They are both buried at the old cemetery at Heads Rd
& Guyton St, Wanganui. He is in plot Row (LS) 10 (43 feet from aisle) LOOK 
FOR ROW 10 - Row numbers are marked in aisle/grass corridor)
with his 2nd wife Gertrude.
 - see there for the grave inscription & a photo: it does not acknowledge
that he was buried there. In Nov 2005 I had erected a stone on their grave.
Here is the gravestone I had erected. It reads: Edward Stroude WITHERS 1845 Hill Green,Newbury,Berkshire-1921.
Also there not acknowledged is their son Jason Q58
buried 26.6.1919 (46 feet from aisle - the same as Gertrude). (The graves on
either side are BABMBER & MCCORMACK.)

m1 30.3.1869 St Johns,Newbury,Berks. sp-Agnes Mary NEWTON b1840 Pangbourne, 
Berkshire d 1.11.1886 Wanganui buried 3.11.1886 Wanganui old cemetery in 
plot Row 26 (32 feet from aisle) with Edith A Q51 (30 feet from aisle). 
I had a stone erected on her unmarked grave Nov. 2005. LOOK FOR ROW 26!
Her grave is part of the lawn in this photo taken 2005.
 Here is the gravestone I had erected. It reads:
Agnes Mary WITHERS nee NEWTON b1840 Pangbourne,Berks d 1886.  

Also buried there is "stillborn of Mr WITHERS buried 28.10.1896" (22 feet from 
aisle - sextant's notes). Perhaps this should read 1886 when Agnes died: 
perhaps this birth killed Agnes. The sextant may be reached on ph 03 343 9412. 
His office is beside the crematorium in the Aramoho Cemetery
aramohocemetery"att"clear.net.nz 2005: 37 Paterson St, Wanganui. 

1871 census: Schedule 77, Donnington Hill, Shaw-cum-Donnington, Berks
 RG10/1252  folio 101 page 14:
 Edward WITHERS Head M 25  Miller Employing 6 men b Berkshire, Leckhampstead
 Agnes Mary WITHERS Wife M 27    b Berkshire, Pangbourne?  
 Edith Agnes WITHERS   Daur  1    b Berkshire, Donnington 
 Ann SMITH Servant   U? 19 general servant domestic? b Hants, Wootten Bassett
 Maria WICKS Servant U? 16  nursemaid b Hants, Cranham or Vernham? 
Stored at 1871EdAgnes.bmp 1.3mgb & 1871EdAgnes.bmp 42kb Courtesy of Bob CUNNING
 
1881 census Dwelling   Earlstok Villa London Rd, Batheaston, Somerset:
 Name  Relation Marital Status Age Birthplace Occupation
 Edward WITHERS Head M 35 Hill Green, Berkshire  Miller Employing 2 Men 1 Boy  
 Agnes M. WITHERS   Wife   M 37   Kingbourne [trans. error], Berkshire      
 Edith A. WITHERS   Daur   U 11   Donnington, Berkshire  Scholar    
 Edward S. WITHERS   Son    9 1872  Donnington, Berkshire  Scholar    
 Thomas M. WITHERS   Son    7   Donnington, Berkshire  Scholar    
 Ida K.J. WITHERS   Daur    6   Donnington, Berkshire  Scholar    
 John T. WITHERS   Son    3   Donnington, Berkshire  Scholar    
 Jemina WITHERS   Mother Daur   W 77 c1804 Bayden, [ie Baydon] Wiltshire      
 Hannah M. WILLIAMS   Servant   U 17   Redwye, Wiltshire  Domestic Servant    

Death Certificate: Agnes Mary WITHERS d 1.11.1886 Wanganui of phthisu 2 years,
medical attendant P CONNOLLY last saw her 31.10.1886; daughter of Thomas NEWTON
agricultural valuator and Emma nee DEANE; buried 3.11.1886 at Wanganui Cemetery
by GL TUDOR Church of England; born in Oxfordshire,England; 2 years in NZ;
married in Berkshire,England at age 25 to Edward WITHERS; living issue: M aged
15,14,8 and F aged 11; undertaker NJ WILD Wanganui.
 In the 1881 census her age is 37, that is bc1844.
 Our Oz cousin RWP ASHLEY may have a photo of her in Newbury.
#She is 4 on NEWTON tree at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/newton/newton.html
  After she died the family bible of Edward's father Q recording the births of 
his 4 sons, and an envelope with a Penny Red Stamp postmarked Ventnor (Isle of
 Wight) to "Mr Edward Withers, Hillgreen, Leckhamstead, nr Newbury" 
 passed to her sister Harriett & down to a greatgrandson who destroyed the 
 bible after mailing its Book of Revelations to sp-Q525. 
 The reverse of the envelope read "Edward Withers was born Wednes. morng 23rd 
 of July 1845 at 8 oclock in the morng." Later was added "2 foot 10 1/2 inches
 when 2 years one month old."
 
Q51  9-Edith Agnes WITHERS (17.1.1870 Donnington, Berks.) Died at 14; buried 
17.9.1885 in Wanganui old cemetery in plot RN 26 (32 feet from aisle) with her
mother & sister Edith Q51 in an unmarked grave.  
 1881 census: Earlstok Villa,London Rd,Batheaston,Somerset, b Donnington,Berks.
 
Here is a photo of her aged about 5 taken by E.T. BROOKS at Newbury edith_withers.jpg

Q52  9-Edward Stroude WITHERS (11.11.1871 Donnington,Berks-29.11.1922 
Auckland} buried Purewa Cemetery, Block F, Row 46, plot 103: the top of the
row is WATSON at 77A, OSBORNE 77, WILKINSON 78, MONTGOMERY 79, CUMMING 80 81,
... MCGINLEY 100, GIBBS/ATKINS 101, BUCKLAND 102, WITHERS 103 unmarked,
HALL 104 unmarked, CARTER 105, ... Get map from office: Row 46 is in F just
where the roads around E island rejoin to the SW. See their website.
# I want to put a stone on his grave. So far no support for the idea!
 B cert courtesy of J & M OSBORN: Edward Stroud WITHERS b 11.11.1871 
Donnington, subdistrict Speen, reg district Newbury, Berks; father Edward 
WITHERS miller master, mother & informant Agnes Mary WITHERS formerly NEWTON 
of Donnington, regd 14.12.1871. 
 
Here is a photo of his b cert. courtesy of J & M OSBORN.
 1881 census: Earlstok Villa,London Rd,Batheaston,Somerset, b 1872 Donnington,
Berks. 
 Death certificate: Edward Stroude WITHERS deeds searcher died 29.11.1922 
at Queen St,Auckland from 5 Takutai St,Parnell
of myocardial degeneration c3 months & heart failure 2
hours, seen same day by medical attendant RJ INGLIS; son of Edward WITHERS
flourmiller and Agnes Mary nee NEWTON; buried 30.11.1922 at Purewa by P
JAMES Anglican; born 11.11.1871 Bath,England; 38 years in NZ [so to NZ 1884];
married in Auckland aged 29 to Elizabeth nee WHITSON now 50; leaves issue M
aged 21 18 16 12 8; JN WINKS? undertaker Auckland. Attended school for young
gentlemen in Bath. Came to NZ 1883-4 with his parents. Deed searcher and
lawyer. Frequently visited the Maori Land Court in Thames, receiving
greenstone, clubs, spears and sacks of kumara as payment. Spoke Maori
fluently. Knew Princess Te Puea. A good artist. Had a token collection.
Lived with his family at 5 Takutai St, Parnell (1902-12 Domain Drive,
Parnell; 1917 44 Gladstone Rd, Parnell.) Office at 154 Queen St. 1917-22.
1922 at 2 (21?) Takutai St, Parnell. Marriage in Weekly News Supplement
14.12.1900 p9. See wedding photo. For a photo marked `Ted' taken in Newbury
aged c8 probably of him see ted.jpg. (From the
collection of Denis MALONE.)

m 1900 Hobson Bridge,(Newmarket),Auckland sp-Elizabeth `Lisa' WHITSON (1872
Auckland-1936 Auckland) "A fairytale" was written for her 1883, probably by
Rev MCKINNEY, vicar at Mahurangi. In the Great Depression she gave her
wedding ring to John to sell for food. Their home was always full of
visitors. 1935 at 21 Takutai St, Parnell, Auckland. The home is still there
in 1999 with a great view of Hobson Bay where her 5 sons used to spear
flounder on the mudflats. ** SHE IS 1153 ON 
OUR WHITSON TREE at http://www.oocities.org/kit_withers/whitson/whitson.html (Scotland 1780-1850; 300 kbytes).

Earlier versions of the WHITSON tree (with photos) are available on interloan 
from NZ public libraries:
 Kit WITHERS, "The family of Thomas WHITSON & Agnes HOGG" 1978 (2 editions),
 Kit WITHERS, "The Australian descendants of Robert WHITSON", 1989 
 Ian R JOHNSTONE, "The family of George JOHNSTONE and Agnes WATTS" 1989 .
This includes her obituary and death notice.

Q521 10-[Captain] (Edward) Trevor (Stroude) WITHERS (18.9.1901 Auckland
-5.5.1981 Suva, Fiji) Planted the 2 huge pooplars at 5 Takutai St, Parnell,
Auckland. Auckland Grammar. University studies. 1923-35 searcher of titles
for WITHERS & WITHERS (a partnership with father) at 154 Queen St then 27
Shortland St, Auckland, mostly dealing with Maori land claims. Represented
his father after his father's death at a big hui near Taupo after winning a
case involving a lot of land for a tribe there.  He knew Governor General
JELLICOE and once rushed up to him in a procession asking "Have you seen
Margot?  (BLOOMFIELD)" recalls his cousin Gordon MURRAY. Joined RNZAF; his
1939 attestation sheet lists: calling - organiser & company director, last
employed by NZ Freedom Association, 4 years in cadets, 3 years in
Territorials 1st Auckland Regiment; in 1942 at Rukuhia as equipment
officer"; 1943 took sick leave from No 1 ACV, Otahuhu to Huka Lodge, Taupo;
1943 promoted from Flight Lieutenant to Squadron Leader in the Royal NZ
Airforce in WW2; in 1944 living at 23 Takatai St (in Wise's PO Directory?);
1945 sheet lists his civil occupation as share broker. 1946 release sheet
from Hobsonville gives station: NNEP, RNZAF Trade: EI, civil occupation:
company director; total service 6 years 191 days; home address: 7 Summer St,
Devonport; overseas service: nil. War Medal, NZ War Services Medal.  1946
Medical Board sheet lists his proposed future address as c/ Harold GATTY,
Pan Am, Suva as from 20.4.1946. In 1947 he moved to Fiji and leased a boat,
the Adi Betty, and trawled for tuna from Nalauwaki village in Waya Island in
the Yasawas.  A number of locals worked for him including Jone Norman (whose
grandson Trevor WITHERS was named after him 
see family Y2 at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/fiji/wayafam.txt
 and Savenaca RATUMEALE. About 1947 he sent these 2 & 2
others to the US. They bought back 4 fishing boats. (This was a joint
venture with aviator Paul GATTY who later started Fiji Airways.) They had a
total of 8 boats. An Englishman, Captain WRIGHT of the Fijian Army, joined
them. (These details came in 2000 from Mosese NACAKE (b1933) 
see family NL3
 He founded a tuna business, the
South Seas Marine Products, based at the Bay of Islands, Suva with aviator
Harold GATTY. However this venture failed and GATTY went on to found Fiji
Airways, giving Trevor a free pass on it which Qantas (later Air Pacific)
still honoured when they took it over.  Fiji Times 1.9.1976: "There were
only 2 such tickets issued & they were in pure gold sheets 3" by 4" with
hinges...The wording goes something like this: `Captain Trevor Withers, his
wives (in plural), his pets under proper care, shall travel gratis with Fiji
Airways all routes.'... in semi-retirement he operates from one of the outer
island resorts Plantation Village in Malolo Lailai. ... Capt Withers caught
the flying bug from none other than the Trans-Pacific champion Captain
Charles KINGSFORD-SMITH.  `I learned to fly beside Smithy after we met in NZ
during his 1st Tasman Flight...'... He met Mr Gatty in Auckland when the
veteran of round-the-world flight was negotiating for Pan Am to have landing
rights in Auckland. `Harold GATTY was a navigator of a class of his own. He
was the hero of the book "Around the World in Eight Days" - he was a true
Tasmanian - he refused American President ROOSEVELT's offer for an American
citizenship.'... Capt. WITHERS before coming to Fiji with Mr GATTY, had
formed a company in NZ called Great Pacific Airways. It later became
National Air Corporation... He bought the 1st Turaga Levu (his 1st cruise
boat) a 42 footer used by Civil Aviation at Laucala Bay as a crash boat.
Thus the Blue Lagoon Cruises was born. It was Fiji's 1st..." 
 1950/51: MY Turaga Levu (the name of his boat), Box 5, Lautoka where he had an
apartment.  His agent in Suva was Bob PARK at the Defence Club.  He built a
4 bedroom home at Yalobi on land of 
Timoci SAYABA (family WL2)
 looked after by Savenaca ULUIBAU (son of Ratu
Sir George CAKOBAU, Vuni Valu, Tui Kabu, Governor General) and his wife.
 After it was destroyed by Hurricane Bebe in 1972 he retired to Dick SMITH's
Musket Cove, Plantation Island in 1972. 
This photo of Trevor & 5 other men "riding" 6 tiger sharks was taken c1960. It reads on the back `To Helen & Margaret, Herre is a photo of your Uncle Trevor (in the middle) with some big and very dangerous Tiger Sharks, & with his fishing buddys. The big shark in the middle is over 17 feet long. We dragged them into shallow water & then rode them like horses. It was great fun. Much love. Uncle T.' 10 kb.
  
Here's an article from the Pacific Island Monthly p51 August 1967 "Fiji's Captain Withers is off to sea again" with a photo "Captain Withers' new "Turaga Levu" shows off her paces in Lautoka in July." 46kb.
                                     

After Trevor died Dick SMITH showed my parents Trevor's tabuas (whales' teeth).
 (Were these left in his will to DS??) 
A street in Lautoka is named after him, Captain Withers Street. See Weekly
News 28.6.1971 p4. He loved trout fishing & deep sea fishing. His MBE was
announced in column 1, page 1 of the Fiji Sun for 30.12.1978. 
His letter on p4 of the Pacific Islands Monthly for May 1979 has a photo of him and explains his apellation KCMC: Kindly Call Me Captain! At that point he had moved from Dick's Place on Malolo Lailai Island to the Defence Club. 40 kbytes.
 
His death was front page of the Fiji Times for 5.5.1981: 
"CAPTAIN WITHERS IS DEAD ...He started Blue Lagoon Cruises ...
today is a multi-million dollar business. ... He mixed a stockbroking
business in NZ before WW2 with aviation ... Part of the cruise's earnings
were plunged into helping Fijian villagers in the Yasawas. He sold control
of the business in the 1960s to another NZer Mr Claude MILLAR who steadily
expanded it. Today run as a public company in local hands it runs 4 large
steel cruises to the islands. Capt WITHERS was a director of the company..."
Fiji Press 9.5.1981: Cruise pioneer dies - ... Blue Lagoon Cruises with a
staff of 3 took the 1st overseas visitors thru the Yasawa Islands in 1950 in
Capt Withers 2nd hand Govt launch Turaga Levu. Now with almost 120 staff & a
fleet of 5 modern cruise vessels carrying 13,500 passengers a year, it is
one of Fiji's most successful tourism enterprises ... Capt Withers was
awarded an MBE in the Queen's 1979 New Year honours..." See also Motoring
Today - June 1989 p45, Pacific Way - March 1992 p18. Founded Blue Lagoon
Cruises to the Yasawas, off Lautoka, Fiji. Member of the Defence Club in
Suva. When I stayed with him at the club in 1964 he introduced me to Sir
Ratu Maru - now Prime Minister of Fiji, & Sir Edward CAKOBAU - brother to
the late Queen Salote of Tonga. A great raconteur. Had an apartment in
Lautoka & a bure on .. Island, Yasawas. His eulogy at Suva Cathedral was by
the Governor General, Ratu Sir George Cakabau who has a tabua (whales teeth)
necklace entrusted him by Trevor from the old Tui Waya (High Chief of Waya
Island, Yasawas).  
Here is the text of that speech.
 His ashes were scattered in the sea in the Yasawas. For a
photo with Gov. General on Blue Lagoon see p14 Travelling Times Vol 2 No 4
Feb 1981. 
In 1991 Mum and Helen DUDER were invited by Blue Lagoon Cruises on a 4 day cruise on the Yasawa Princess. Here is an article on this with photo of them & Capt Fabiano from the Fiji Times Tues. 16.7.1991. - 40 kb
Here is a photo of them from an article crew. - 77 kb
 which ends:
... Helen met David Wilson, BLC chairman in Auckland: "We got 
talking and he suggested a trip to the Yasawa Islands & I thought it was a 
wonderful idea. I then told him about my aunt & later we received a telegram 
from Merle Murray the sales & reservations manager of the BL." This includes
a history of the BL & the growth of the fleet under Capt Claude MILLAR. 

Other articles mentioning Trevor and the Blue Lagoon include "Mutiny
in mind" Evening Post 14.3.2000 p D1 with colour photo of a current Blue
Lagoon ship in the Yasawas, p99 of Travel (2000) - Auckland.

Mum has his photo album for 1924-25 with a shot of Dad at about 6. She also has
a later album of trevor's in Fiji including a shot of a manta ray.

Q522 10-Harry Stroude WITHERS (Auckland 1904- buried 29/1/1965) 
Auckland Grammar. See newspaper photo 27.10.1927 as captain of the Parnell 
Swimming Club and ex-captain of the Tauranga Swimming Club with brother 
Maurrie. Prominent radio personality in NZ & Sydney after WW2. His programme 
in Sydney "Wake up to WITHERS" was very popular. Founding member of the NZ 
Magicians Society formed 1920?: once when sawing a woman in half the coffin 
was made of hardwood - took forever! (see Auckland SB May 1970 p120, Auckland
Public Library and photos 27.9.1933 in The NZ Home Journal and the Waipa Post
for 21.9.1933.) In 1935 manufacturer's agent at 20 Fort St, Auckland. 1940:
had a well known radio program on Radio 2UE, Sydney. About 1946 had grand
piano in his apartment in Oriental Bay, Wellington. 1946: publicity officer
for United Artists recording studio, 55 Courtenay Place, Wellington. A
skilled photographer. As Public Relations Officer for Rotorua about 1950 he
thrilled me by flying in a helicopter over our holiday home at Holden's Bay,
Rotorua. Mum has his book when GM for "Round the World in 80 days" - they
brought us home cooked huhu grubs from the Auckland gala premiere at the
Peter Pan Cabaret. 

Mum has one of his publicity folders with many photos.  (I think this
is one with invites to Govt House etc 1937, ..., 1941 Sydney ...
Radio 2UE & 2GB ... Victor E LOWE using the alias Daly? ... 1948 NAC,
United Artists, letter from Mary PICKFORD, at 55 Courtenay Place
Wellington in 1950 ... Harry & Oscar, cuttings mentioning him from
Auckland Star 26.5.52, Wanganui paper, Napier paper, NZ Listener
9.5.52 [does not mention him], "Wake up to Withers" New Plymouth,
photo of him in Wellington Jose Ferrer's .."  script for Movie
Magasine 13.8.52,... Goldies.)

Mum has his autograph album with signatures of celebrities including LIBERACE,
Take It From Here radio personality Dick BENTLY, various premiers and mayors
including those for Adelaide, Hobart, Wanganui, Napier, Christchurch,
signatories to various banknotes, Admirals MUIRHEAD and BYRD, Lt Colonel
NICKERSON of the US Marine Corps, Victor LOWE, Guide RANGI, film-stars and
actors Bob HOPE, Jackie COOPER, Vivienne LEIGH, Sir Lawrence OLIVIER,
Dame Sybil THORNDIKE, aviator Harold GATTY, prime ministers Peter FRASER (NZ
1945) and Lord ATTLEE (UK), governor general? Lord and Lady Louis MOUNTBATTEN,
 Lord NUFFIELD, US comedian George FORMBY, NZ painter Peter MCINTYRE, the 1950
British Lions Rugby team, violinist Yehudi MENUHIN, the governor of New York,
the President of Eire, the English singer Gracie FIELDS,
a page with 11 Victoria Crosses, Burl IVES,
a British Military Issue 5 shilling note with an Italian note, 
a cartoon by MINHINNICK, a Japanese occupation of Malay note for 1 shilling,
 etc. Southland Daily News 18.7.1949:"Dorothy's book of autographs is not for
sale. 5 years ago Mr Harry S WITHERS ... travelled? Australia with Jack DAVEY
in support of 1st Victory Loan .."  Buried 29/1/1965 PLE II 2 98 at Aramoho 
Cemetery, Wanganui. 

Q523 10-Maurice Stroude WITHERS (1906/1908 Auckland-22.7.1942 Tripoli, Lebanon;
killed WW2 fighting ROMMEL's army; buried El Alamein War Cemetery, Egypt, Plot
28, Row D, Grave 2) His death is noted on the War Memorial at Auckland
Grammar. See newspaper photo 27.10.1927 as treasurer of the Parnell Swimming
Club and polo captain with brother Harry. Storekeeper for Auckland Harbour
Board. His cousin Gordon MURRAY (see WHITSON tree) had to sample the spuds
for Dalgety's. When Morrie saw him coming they'd start throwing spuds at
each other. One hit a wharfie and made it rather unsafe for Gordon to
return! 5 years with Territorials Artillery. Enlisted 1940. In 1941 he was
Staff Sergeant at Papakura then acting RSM at Ngaruawahia then overseas with
24th NZ Battalion; Battery Driver; 1939-45 Star, Africa Star, War Medal, NZ
War Service Medal. Called "Maurry with the kauri-gum hair" by cousin GM as
his hair was always brushed immaculately. 
letters.txt includes his last letter home.

m Auckland sp-"Dweena" Edwina Helen FOOTE Died 28.3.1998 in Auckland aged
90 at Lady Ascot Rest Home, AscotRd, Remuera. Formerly a teacher, she lived
from 1943 to 1996 at 2 Merivale Road, Epsom, Auckland. 2 children.

Q5231 11-Helen Stroude WITHERS (22.4.1941 Auckland) Violinist for Junior
Symphony Orchestra at highschool, for National Orchestra c1959, lead
violinist for Sinfonia (now the Auckland String Players) c1963, Canterbury
University Orchestra, Teachers College Orchestra & Christchurch Orchestra
while taking speech therapy course, lead violinist in Rotorua Orchestra
while working as speech therapist there 1 year. 2 years working holiday in
England as governess to Count & Countess Kinsky in London. Rejoined
Sinfonia. Speech therapist at Mt Roskill Intermediate. Toured NZ with
English comedian Bruce Forsythe of "The Generation Game", NZ Radio Orchestra
to 1982. As the violinist & cofounder c1977 of the Savoy Trio she has played
to & met celebrities such as Kiri Te Kanawa, Sammy Davis Jr, & Governor
General Beattie. (NZ Herald 4.11.82 S3 p2.) Guest artist for TV shows "12
Bar Rhythm & Blues" 1981 & "Stars on Sundays" 1982. She switched careers
from speech therapist to manage Kelly Tarlton's Underwater World. She is an
expert on sharks & travels a lot. In 1993 she went to Antarctica. In 1997
she left Kelly Tarlton's to develop an animated cartoon series "Wiggly Fin"
using underwater characters she created herself as puppets, taking a promo
film to the Cannes Film Festival. Until 1998 they lived at 4 Atherton Rd,
Epsom, Auckland. 
Photo please!!

m 12.5.71 Auckland sp-Ross DUDER (5.7.1940 Buck.,England) B Ag Sc, Dip Ag Sc, 
MNZIAS, MNZSFM, CPAg. An agronomist. He worked for Arthur Yates,
the seed & garden company. He is now an independent agricultural consultant.
He is on the NZ Council of Farm Management (1999). A keen yachter he has
half share in a Townsend 26 keeler. 2 children.
*1998-:  Mission Bay, Auckland. ph 09 528 6378
	122 Garden Road, Piha, N of Auckland,  ph 09 812 8854
2009 Helen 025 270 4679  helen.duder"att"gmail.com, 
Ross 025 324 897 rduder"att"xtra.co.nz still?

Q5231 1 12-Matthew DUDER (3.9.1972 Auckland) Matthew did a BSc in Conservation 
Management - in '92 he took Marine Biology. Studied at Whitianga Polytech. In 
a band. 2003-4 playing football for Lichenstein. Met the Grand Duke .5.2004 & 
gave him a tip on helping small businesses! 2005 back in Auckland.
 2008 matthew.duder"att"eboss.co.nz

m c2004 Auckland? sp-Jennifer

Q5231 11  13-Maxwell DUDER (.2.2006 Auckland)

Q5231 2  12-Jonathan Nelson DUDER (20.8.1974 Auckland) Johny did a B Comm 
in marketing at Dunedin, and is living in Auckland. 

m 21.2.2004 Auckland sp-Mary-Lou 

Q5231 21  13-Dixie DUDER (18 or 23.2.2003 Auckland)
Q5231 22  13-Rubie DUDER (28.11.2004 Auckland)  
Q5231 23  13-Bruno DUDER ( .6.2006 Auckland)  

Q5232 11-Margaret Stroude WITHERS (30.8.1943 Auckland) Violinist in National
Youth Orchestra, Junior Symphony Orchestra, leader 1963 of Hamilton Civic
Orchestra. She is a senior teacher at Henderson High, N of Auckland.
 Here is a photo of Margaret. 
* 1992: 37 Beach Valley Rd, Piha, Auckland 0772, NZ tel. 09 812 8806

m 5.10.1963 Auckland sp-Peter John BYERS              
Peter comes from a well known Piha family. Builds surfboards, tomato grower,
builder. He built their large home himself to a highly original design. He
has built some luxury apartments overlooking Lion Rock. For photos of him,
his mother, grandmother and great grandfather see "Piha in images"? by
Sandra Coney (1997). His mother was a LA TROBE, related to the Governor? of
Port Philip, Melbourne.

Q5232 1 12-Maurice John BYERS (25.10.1964 Auckland) He and Stuart had a
partnership in Valley Road, Piha "Nostalgic Design" making kauri furniture.
He manages the workshop for the construction company Roadstern in Henderson.

m 29.10.1994 at Piha,Auckland sp-Margaret REID (Wales) 

Q5232 11  13-Isabelle BYERS (.10.96 Auckland)

Q5232 2  12-Andrew James BYERS (29.9.1966 Auckland) Builder.
df  sp-Louise
Q5232 21  13-Austin BYERS (.3.2002 Henderson, Auckland)

Q5232 3  12-Stuart Peter BYERS (10.3.1969 Auckland) Landscaper and builder.
Building his own home 2001.

m 19.2.1994 at Piha,Auckland sp-Bernice Carol O'BRIAN (28.5.1970 Auckland)
She grew up in Nigeria & Kenya where her father was a gamekeeper, later
awarded an OBE for services to wildlife.
* 1995: 46 Beach Valley Rd, Piha, Auckland tel. 09 812 8142

Q5232 31  13-Piper Yvonne BYERS (8.7.2001 National Women's Hospital,Auckland)

Q5232 4  12-Warren Donald BYERS (3.3.1971 Auckland) In 1996 he worked at 
Carnarvon, N of Perth. Builder and plasterer.

Q524 10-John Stroude WITHERS (16.2.1910 Auckland-26.11.1941 Western Desert,
killed in WW2, buried in Plot 6 B20 at Knightsbridge, 15m W of Tobruk - a
town on Libyan coast c 60m W of Egypt) His death is noted on the War
Memorial at Auckland Grammar. Harbour Board, warehouse manager for EA Broker
Ltd, 24 Lorne St. A stationary travellor for Collins. 6 years in
Territorials as 4th Battery Artillery Bombadier. Enlisted 8.7.1940 no. 26436
in 24th Battalion NZ Infantry; Papakura Camp then Egypt; infantry
instructor, Sergeant, 1939-45 Star, Africa Star, War Medal, NZ War Service
Medal. Obituary 5/5b v37 p73 & 92 Port p72 in Auckland Public Library. The
Commonwealth War Graves Commission publication "Knightsbridge War Cemetery,
Acroma -Register Libya Index No. LIB.1" gives cemetery details and notes:
"The defence against Rommel's drive across Cyrenaica towards Suez consisted
of a number of irregularly spaced strong points or "boxes" linked by deep
minefields. Those nearest the enemy were held by infantry, while those
further back served as reserve static positions and as bases from which the
armour could operate. The chief "box", known as Knightsbridge, was round a
junction of tracks about 12 miles west of Tobruk and 10 miles south of
Acroma, commanding all the tracks by which supplies came up to the front.
The 8th Army's advance fuelling stations and airfields were at Acroma, El
Adem, Sidi Rezegh and Gambut, while Gazala aerodrome, taken from the
Italians early in the campaign, by Feb. 1941 housed 2 British squadrons ...
Fierce actions were fought at all these places ..." A copy on request. On
18.12.1941 Maurie wrote to Wynn about John's death: " .. John's Battalion
have been in the thick of it since the show started here & throughout the
whole works John behaved exactly as you would expect him to although the
whole battalion was being bashed more than I like to think. His sense of
humour never failed him & he kept the whole section cheerful & in good
spirits even during the most hectic periods besides doing a grand job of
work during the actual scrapping. In the CSM's words `It is easy enough to
be cheery & bright when everything is going OK & you are warm & wellfed, but
it takes a damn sound bloke to raise a grin when you are cold & wet &
dog-tired & your pals are being shot to Hell all over the bloody desert.' It
was always when the tension was greatest that John would make some damn-
fool remark that would make the boys forget for a moment how tired they were
& cheer them on. His section, evidently thought the world of him & he knew
his job like nobody's business. John stopped his packet in Sidi Rezegh,
which is only a few miles away from Tobruk. The desert there is practically
all rock with a few inches of soil on top so it is almost impossible to dig
in there. On the night of the 25th Nov. John's section had taken up a
position in advance of the Bn. & were bombing a waddi up which Jerry was
bringing his reinforcements. The Hun was also occupying a position on John's
left flank where he had a machine gun post & a sniper. When dawn broke on
the 26th it was seen that Jerry had broken through on the right flank also &
had got between John's section & his Bn. so they were completely surrounded.
At this stage their mortar was put out of action & there were only Sgt
THOMPSON, John, another Cpl. & 3 men left, so as the position was obviously
untenable they had a conference to decide whether to try & fight their way
back or surrender, & they unanimously decided to fight. Here John insisted
on lighting his pipe as he had been unable to smoke all night, & when he was
ready they made their dash. They had gone about 25 yds when the Hun machine
gun post & the sniper opened up from about 80 yds away, & the only ones who
eventually got through were Sgt Thompson & 1 private. John was right along
side of Tommy when he went down with a bullet through the head so at least
we have the consolation of knowing that death was instantaneous. Later in
the day the position was retaken & John was found just where he had fallen.
... He was buried where he had put up such a great scrap by Padre Watson of
the 24th Bn. who was a great pal of his. .. I have applied to take his place
in the 24th & as school is now over I think I have a good show. ... I hope
to God you will be able to stay in NZ now the Japs are in & look after
things on the Home Front for us. The firm of Withers Bros has enough reps
overseas. .. Don't let it get you too far down old Son. He would be the
first to tell you to get that chin up.  God bless, Maurie." A photo of him
with Hector MACQUARRIE is in the latter's book "Round the world in a baby
Austin". 
letters.txt includes 2 of his letters from the Middle East Forces in WW2 to Trevor in 1941.
 

A copy of "Oliver Twist" now in possession of Q5252 1 Adrianna) has written on 
it "John S Withers, 170 Manchester St, Christchurch".

Q525 10-Wyvern "Wynn" Stroude WITHERS (24.6.1914 Auckland-31.12.1982 Auckland)
Death certificate: Wyvern Stroud WITHERS, Insurance broker (Ex serviceman),
 of 18 Cathedral Place,Parnell, age 68,b 24.6.1914 Auckland; died 31.12.1982
 at 18 Cathedral Place,Parnell; son of Edward Stroud WITHERS lawyer and
 Elizabeth nee WHITSON; married in Auckland at age 26 to Alice Laurette
 RUSSELL now aged 64, with M issue aged 41 39 & 36, cremated 4.1.1983 at
 Purewa; cause of death bronchial adenocarcinoma left lung 1 year, medical
 attendant DL RICHWHITE, funeral director LG RESNICK) 
Here is a poor quality photo of him as a baby -4kb
 Attended Kings Prep. School. 
Here is a photo of him aged about 9 with the family's dog sitting on the front porch (56 kbytes).
 Having won the science
prize at Kings College, he had to leave school in the depression & look for
work. Competing against a line of other boys that stretched halfway round
the block he got a job as an errand boy for the General Assurance Company in
Queen St. Served in WW2 at Wellington, living with his wife in 1941 near the
Bolton St Cemetery. About 1946 they built their home at 18 Cathedral Place,
Parnell opposite Laurette's parents at 19. The section is about 1.25 acres
and slopes down below the house crossing a stream to the backyards of houses
on Brighton Road. The stream mouth, Mataharehare (meaning brandishing -
referring to the brandishing of taiaha when 2 warlike tribes approach), at
the base of Ayr Street is of historic significance: it was the site of an
early Maori settlement with direct access to the top of Mt Eden. The mouths
of that stream and Cox's Creek in Ponsonby together with the top of Mt Eden
formed 2 straight lines which mark the boundaries of Captain HOBSON's
purchase of Auckland on 29.7.1841 from the Ngati Whatua at Orakei. (p50 of
[3] in "e." gives the S boundary as a line drawn through the Maunga Wau,
midway between the Manukau & Waitemata, in all about 3000 acres.) The
remaining boundary was the seashore. For more info see [1-3] under Auckland
in "e." above. By the 1950's Dad was Assistant General Manager for the
General Assurance Company, & set up as an independent insurance broker from
their offices. We had many happy holidays at our bach at 6 Holdens Bay Rd,
Holdens Bay, Rotorua - now subdivided with the old willow tree at the back cut 
down. Dad was for many years a vestryman at old St Mary's Anglican Cathedral in
Parnell Rd. He was Peoples Warden there & later at Holy Trinity Cathedral from
1953. When he developed lung cancer they refused his resignation to honour
him.  
Here is his obituary from p3 of the Cathedral News for Jan. 1983 by Dean RYMER.

His ashes are in an urn under the sanctuary of St Mary's, near a
stained glass window on the right, the Wynn Withers memorial window,
dedicated 10.3.1985 in memory of him; designed by Beverly Shore Bennett -
"St Peter standing on a rock with his fishing net over his shoulder & a fish,
symbol for Christ, in his hand. An angel at the top holding a scroll with Simon
Peter on it, above all are the crossed keys of the saintl The lower panel shows
the healing of the beggar at the gate called Beautiful." See Cathedral 
Newsletters of 13.2.1983, 17.6.1984 & 10.3.1985:"...St Paul's statement
about glass is important to the Cathedral parish today as we dedicate a
stained glass window in memory of our revered late Churchwarden, Mr Wynn
Withers. A memorial in glass in St Mary's ... is a worthy tribute to Wynn,
as his life & example in this parish brought to us on many occasions
something of the presence & grace of God. One looked at Wynn & admired his
simple faith, his calmness & his strong will which was determined to see
right things done in the Cathedral. Just as he was an effective instrument
for God's working ..." He had a great sense of humour & loved telling jokes
& shaggy dog stories. Mum has his photo album with him at School Camp in 1928
at Narrow Neck in lemon squeezers, in Kings First 11 & First 15 1929,
in army uniform "Weekend camp 1934", shots of Mum in 1935 at Takapuna & Milford
Beach, a Rotorua WW2 camp 1936, Dad in Wellington with friends at their
boarding house "Bagan Hall" - now the site of the James Cook Centra Hotel.
Also in the album is a shot of "Mater & Aunt Dora" c1878.

Here is a photo of him - he is the front pallbearer - at Bishop Gowing's funeral from the NZ Herald 6.6.1981. And one of Mum and Dad and me on the couch at their home in 1982,
and a photo of him at Oriental Bay c1982.
 
The following poem was written by Erica.

			MY GRANDFATHER
My Grandfather was a man,        who always cared for others.
He cared for all his family,     and my father and his brothers.
My Grandfather left us memories, we will forever share.
My Grandfather was a great man,  a wonderful man who cared.


m 12.11.1940 St Mark's,Remuera,Auckland sp-Alice Laurette RUSSELL (6.2.1918 
Auckland) Honours in Trinity College piano exams. Hairdresser in Wellington 
before marriage. For wedding photo see Weekly News 20.11.1940. Marriage cert:
 Wyvern Stroude WITHERS 26 Insurance Clerk bachelor b Auckland Present 
residence Auckland, Usual residence Wellington, son of Edward Stroude WITHERS
solicitor & Lisa WITHERS nee WHITSON;
 Alice Laurette RUSSELL 22 spinster b Auckland Residence Auckland, dr of 
Reginald Frank RUSSELL accountant & Vera Bessie RUSSELL nee HALL;
 Minister Percy HOUGHTON; Witnesses Trevor S WITHERS, Hobsonville Air Base,
Auckland Flying Officer RNZAF & John S WITHERS, Papakura Military Camp, Private
 In 1944 they lived at 1411 Great North Road, Auckland. 
Here is a photo of her with Dad holding a pipe perhaps on their honeymoon, 8kb.
Here is a poor quality photo of her with Wynn in uniform and Russell as a baby in 1942 (6 kbytes).
Here is a photo of her and her children at her 79th birthday, 1997 at Peter and Judy's in Waiheke: Q5251 Russell, Q5253 Peter, Laurette,Q5252 Kit
*1945-2002: 18 Cathedral Place, Parnell, Auckland, NZ tel. 09-377 8480
 email laurette_withers"att"xtra.co.nz 2005
A photo of her with friends appears on p11 of the Middleburg Life paper for
July 1994 on a visit to a school-friend in Virginia.
 
Lautette is 1411 in "The family tree of RUSSELL of Bristol (1840-present)" in OUR RUSSELL TREE at http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/russell/russell.html See there for more photos.
 

Q5251 11-Russell John Stroude WITHERS (7.4.1942 Wellington) Dip. Arch.
(Auckland University) When he was c5 NZ schools shut down for 3 months because
of a polio epidemic. In 1984 he was a community architect. (1971-9 Stanish & 
Withers Architects. 1979-83 Archangels-Architect Collective.) His practice 
carried out a mixture of private architectural commissions. He did periodic
lecturing, tutoring & public speaking, consultancy & research work for Local
Bodies & central government, ran skills training programmes for the public
& professional sectors, community advocacy work & sundry writings. He has
lectured at Auckland University in the School of Architecture, the Town
Planning Department, the Elam School of Fine Arts, the Management Studies
Dept., Sydney University, Leeds Polytechnic, Carrington Tech., Victoria
University, etc. Of his 24 publications between 1976 and 1984 his titles
include "Architectural Values", "Professional priorities", "Community
housing alternatives", "Co-counselling a a comparative psycho-therapy",
"Helping skills", "Community architecture in NZ", "Basic facilitation for
cooperative groups", "Community & self-help architecture", "Personal & group
skills", "Community technology" & "Intentional communities". Nov'r 1977 Art
NZ p11.  Cofounder of the Environmental Resource Centre providing
environmental information & skills. For examples of his community
architecture see Auckland Star 6.4.1990, North Shore Times Advertiser
16.4.1990 & 30.7.1992 p53, Auckland City Harbour News 19.4.1990 p4-5. Design
awards include 1984 AHI Environmental Design Award (for Mangere Centre Park
Sports Complex), 1989 Timber Design Society Award (for Fishing Boat Family
Restaurant), 1992 Waitakere City Council Residential Design Award.
Consultant facilitator: has facilitated over 90 training workshops &
courses; co-author of "Basic Facilitation Skills Handbook for Cooperative
Groups"; founding partner of The Main Street Company providing facilitation
to business associations & local authorities on setting up and managing
economic revitalisation projects. Counsellor/therapist: since 1980 offering
family & business relationship counselling; co-counsellor teacher; produced
training video on use of drawing therapy with children for Auckland College
of Education; teaches and drafting book on Interactive Drawing Therapy;
producing "A user's guide to comparative psychotherapies" for the NZ
Parent-to-Parent organisation. He runs Colour Therapy courses around the
country.

m1 Auckland sp-Pamela STREET Descends from Mutiny of the Bounty stock & from
Joseph STREET who arrived New Plymouthj 7.11.1841: see p240 of "The
establishment of the New Plymouth Settlement 1841-3" by J RUTHERFORD & WH
SKINNER.

Q5251 1  12-Manu Stroude WITHERS (27.5.1971 Auckland) BE (Auckland University) 
Has toured Japan & Australia rowing. Worked in London 2000 to August 2001
when he returned to NZ via overland in Africa etc. 1993: President of 
Association of Engineers. 1996 Traffic engineer for Auckland Regional Council: 
see Auckland paper article 9.10.1996. 1997-2005: working in London.
 1993: 72 Shakespeare Rd, Milford, Auckland tel. 09-4895.987
 1999 visited US, Central America, Nepal, India, ... 
2005: in London email manuwithers"att"hotmail.com
2008 stroudeltd"att"gmail.com

m 17.4.2004 Auckland sp-Kelly Anne WYNN b 27/10/73 parents Beryil (nee GRAHAM) 
and Mark WYNN. 

Q5251 1  12-Taylor Wynn WITHERS (b 6.2.2006 Auckland) a girl
Q5251 2  12-Camryn WITHERS (b c16.9.2008 Auckland) a girl

Q5251 2 12-Henry Kahu WITHERS (19.7.1973 Auckland) BE (Auckland University)
Has toured Japan & Australia? rowing. Was in Under 21 Rugby team? In 1997 lived
in London with Manu. 1999 visited US, Central America, ... In 2000 began a
career with BNZ in Wellington. 
* 2001: Wellington, Wholesale derivatives for BNZ
* 2003: Castor Bay, Auckland mobile 021 646 745


[Q5251  11-Russell John Stroude WITHERS (7.4.1942)]:
df   sp-Heather SPENCE (Auckland)
*  1999: 22 John St, Ponsonby, Auckland tel. 09 376 3996 or 021 766 399
All SPENCEs in NZ descend from James and William SPENCE.

Q5251 3  12-Hazel SPENCE (7.12.1979 Auckland)
In 1999 at dance-school in Melbourne, Australia.
* Email hazelspence"att"hotmail.com 

Q5251 31  13-Holly SPENCE

[Q5251  11-Russell John Stroude WITHERS (7.4.1942)]:
m2 1981 Auckland    sp-Frances Patricia DARRAGH (14.2.1953) BA Hons,
 NHP, HbT, MNZAC, MNZCHP, MNZHS, MNZIHb. Counsellor & natural health
 practicioner. Author of homeopathic books eg "Healing your child" (1989,1999).
 For a photo of her with her cousin Louise DARRAGH see Sunday Star 4.6.1989.
*1980-present: 57 Lincoln St, Ponsonby, Auckland, ph/fax 09 376 4789.
idt2"att"pl.net 2007
 www.InteractiveDrawingTherapy.com

Q5251 4  12-Sarah Jane WITHERS (31.7.1981 Auckland) 2004: MSc in Biology, 
Auckland University.
2005: Administration Assistant at the Bioinformatics Institute, Auckland
University. This info & photo is from their website www.bioinformatics.org.nz 
 s.withers"att"auckland.ac.nz 2006, withers.s"att"gmail.com 2007
 withers.sarah"att"gmail.com 2007. 2007 in UK.

2005 photo from the website.
 

Q5251 5  12-Kelly Patrick WITHERS (9.10.1984 Auckland)
A photo of him "Bubblegum bliss" appears on p3 of the Auckland City Harbour 
News for 11.10.1996. 2008: kpwithers"att"gmail.com

Q5252 11-Christopher `Kit' Maurice Stroude WITHERS (20.10.1943 Auckland)
Research statistician for the Applied Math's Group, Industrial Research Ltd, 
Lower Hutt (formerly part of DSIR at Victoria University, Wellington. 
Junior Scholarship from Kings College (5th in NZ), MSc (1st Class Honours) 
Auckland University in mathematics, Senior Scholarship in Maths & other awards 
such as Fellowships to Harvard & U of Chicago (both declined). 
Postgraduate Scholar & Fulbright Scholar to Stanford University
where he did a Ph D in statistics 1966-70. For a brief account of his
participation in the Civil Rights movement at that time see 
his Bronze Medal (the first for his club) speech to the Gracefield Toastmasters Club.
 In 1971 he worked as Senior
Statistician at University of California Medical Center before returning to
DSIR.  42 publications in maths & stats journals 1967-93. DSIR Director's
Award 1992. In 1992 the DSIR was split up into crown research institutes: he
now works for Industrial Research Ltd., Gracefield Road, Lower Hutt, where
he was in the barbershop quartet and has held the post of President (1999) of
Toastmasters, as well as other positions. He loves tramping, singing,
playing guitar. He is a former member of a number of choirs, including St
Mary's Cathedral as a boy, and the Orpheus Choir in Lower Hutt. He sang the
Messiah at Sydney Opera House. He put out Auckland's 1st Directory of
Social Services c1965. He has made numerous submissions to Parliament, for
example on the nuclear-free legislation 25.6.1986 where he confronted Prime
Minister Robert MULDOON. After visiting the Phillipines during the tyrant
Marcos's last days where he wrote articles for Manila papers, he began a
radio program in 1985 on Radio Access "Phillipine Solidarity" with his
partner Erice FAIRBROTHER. 
Here is a photo of them in 1966 at a friend Prue's deb ball in Masterton - Prime Minister HOLYOAKE in attendance,
and another about 1987 on the way to a family wedding.
 Later they began another
"Kanak Solidarity" supporting the Kanak struggle for independence from
France in New Caledonia. President of Action for the Environment 1971-74
fighting to save Wellington's green skyline. NZ representative for Atenisi
University in Tonga since 1980. He & Erice sponsored 2 Cambodian refugee
families c1987. His involvement with the Cambodian community in Wellington
has brought him much pleasure. Loves other cultures. Has visited Fiji,
Australia, New Caledonia (Kanaky), Samoa, Tahiti, USA, Mexico, Canada,
Iceland, England, France, Spain, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Italy, Germany,
Switzerland, Holland, Tonga, Papua New Guinea, Indonesia, Kenya, India,
Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, Guatemala, Austria, Hungary, Czech Republic,
Nepal, Myanmar, Peru, Venezuela, Turkey. '03: Korea,Hongkong,China. 
Photos of him are in the NZ Herald Dec.? 1961 for winning a Junior Scholarship,
in the Dominion Easter 1973 with Rosie playing the guitar at The Folk Festival 
at Victoria University, and in the Dominion 14.7.1980 as a volunteer teacher at
a Wellington homework centre. He appeared on TV on the Brian EDWARDS show in 
1973, and with video clips of his dog Skip on Nightline 2 nights running in 
1992! 
Here is a photo of me climbing the Rudolph Glacier above De La Beche Hut on the Tasman Glacier in 1990 - he's down on lower left climbing an icecliff above a crevasse,
and another hiking with his dog Skip (b1989) in 1991 at Otaki Forks
Here is a photo of 101 Allington Rd in 1982 before any of the trees I planted at the fence had grown. It now looks completely different. My car and a friend Rick are in the driveway.
 
My official work photo.
 
One of me 1998.
 
One of me in Jeju island off S Korea 2003.
One of Buddy & me in Bot Gardens, Wellington 2008. 
* Since 1980: 101 Allington Rd, Karori, Wellington 6005, NZ 
 2008: tel. 04 476 9554 email: kitw"att"slingshot.co.nz

m 23.1.1971 Stanford Chapel, Palo Alto, California 1970  sp-Mona Annette 
WILLIAMS (26.7.1943 British Guiana) BA in Communications (Stanford) div. c1978.
Lecturer at Palmerston North Training College, storyteller, writer of short 
stories. Co-author with Joy Cowley of `Two of a kind' (1984), NZ. 
Here's a photo of us in the Stanford hills c1970 by Mira OATEN.
 
c1977-2002: 12 Ada St, Palmerston North. 2 children.
2003: Teaching in Arab Emirates.

Q5252 1 12-Adrianna Rose WITHERS (12.5.1973 Wellington) 
m1 14.1.1996 at Wellington Bot. Gardens hot house sp-Joshuahn JACKSTONBURG 
(17.12.1969 Ashford, Kent, England) Div.
 
m2 6.1.2004 at the Chateau, Mt Ruapehu, NZ sp-Ewan GEBBIE


Here's proud Dad taking his dr to be wed. 12kb
Here's Adrianna holding Rewa with Ewan during the vows. 17kb
Here's Adrianna holding Rewa reaching for Ewan at the wedding. 11 kb

Q5252 12 13-Hugo Ewan GEBBIE (29.11.2004 Wellington) hugo2.jpg c5.3.05 ex Sheba
Q5252 13 13-Alan Keith GEBBIE b 12.6.2007 Wellington
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Q5252 2 12-Sheba Williams WITHERS (Wellington 25.9.1974) She had her first
art exhibition in 1991 at Palmerston North. She spent 1992 as an Exchange
Student in Zurich, Switzerland. In 1993 she was elected Student
Representative on the Board of Trustees of Hamilton Girls East and won the
Art and German prizes. 1994-7 she did a Bachelor of Design from VUW at
Wellington Polytech. majoring in photography. In 1998 she moved to Auckland
working for Video Print, singing at cafes and playing an Amazon in the TV
series `Young Hercules'. In 1998-99 she taught English to children in
Taipei. In 2001 she taught English for 6 months in Kyoto, Japan.
In 2002 she began a Bachelor of Jazz Singing at Massey University, Wellington.
 
Here are Sheba (on left) and Adrianna c1982 with Sarah SHEFFIELD on returning from a holiday in Fiji and Tonga.
Here is a photo of her in friend Laurel Alfano's peasant costume c1983,
and another at the same time in one of Laurel's ball gowns,
Here she is with her proud Dad and proud sister at her graduation at the Michael Fowler Centre 1998 -36 kbytes.
Here she is with Adrianna at Te Papa, 20.2.1999.
Here she is Xmas 1999.
 
Here is a photo with dreads about the end of high school. Here she is modelling in the Evening Post 3.4.2002 p21, 20 kb; and here she is with friend & fellow singer Deva MAHAL in Capital Times 6.11.2002 14kb
and another 4kb
and another - the flier for their Dinah Washington show 24.4.2004. 6kb
 See also http://www.thepackage.co.nz/?p=web/article/654
In 2003 Sheba & Deva formed a a group Afronesia doing a "Jazz on a Sunday" 
series with shows dedicated to Grace Jones, Dinah Washington, ... Their tribute
to Ella Fitzgerald was on the National Programme on 23.4.2004 at 430p.
* 2003: c/ 101 Allington Rd, Wellington 6005, tel 04 934 4477 mobile 0214sheba
 email  shebawilliams"att"hotmail.com   Photography website http://www.shebawilliams.co.nz/  
Her is the poster of her farewell show 6.6.2004 before she left for Amsterdam.
* 2004: Singing website http://www.shebalive.tk with photos & links eg to a 
 live recording of Sly Mongoose. In 2004 she sang in Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin,
Barcelona & was part of a video shot in Turkey.
* 2005: Some photos from her Josephine BAKER cabaret show 11.2.2005 are at
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/share/view?i=EeIOGTZi0cNmEd&open=1&x=1&sm=0&sl=0&open=1
In 2005 she took a contract singing with part of her band in Shanghai. Here are
some links to her life there:
http://web1-share.shutterfly.com/img_/misc/spnh.gif
http://sheba.shutterfly.com/action/
 *2008: shebawilliams"att"gmail.com
 You can hear her sing if you google youtube then enter shebawilliams
or simply google Sheba WILLIAMS - & her songs at myspace will start playing.
2008: www.ShebaWilliams.com
Here is a photo of her for a show in 08.

Q5253 11-Peter Stroude WITHERS (6.7.1946 Auckland) Worked for Air New
Zealand to 1997. Previously with Motor Traders. See photo in 1978? AIR NZ
magasine "Fast fingered Pete". They have a home on the beach at Waiheke.
Enjoys fishing in his boat & commuting to his friends in Los Angeles!
Here is Air NZ CEO Jim MCCREA awarding Peter a silver salver for 25 years with Air NZ, Judy standing by, 12 kb.

L to R: Kit, Prime Minister Helen CLARK, & Peter - 8.8.2005 at the unveiling in
Parliament's Grand Hall of the plaque commemorating the death of Dad's uncle, 
Col. Wm MALONE after he led the Wellington Battalion in the taking of Chunuk 
Bair at Gallipoli, 8.8.1915.  
2005: www.oocities.org/dairyfarmer20032004/techie.html

m sp-Judith Marcia Gieles KENNEY (6.2.1939) Judy was the top Karitane nurse for
her year. She managed an old people's home on Waiheke Island until Peter's 
retirement from Air NZ. 
c1985-1998/6: 2 The Esplanade, Blackpool, Waiheke Island,Auckland. 
1998/7-2000: 6 Wanaka St, Parkdale, Wanganui
2000-2003: Rakaupiko Rd, RD 1, PATEA (391) (last house on L before farm at end)
 *2008: email petersw"att"xtra.co.nz tel 06 347 9588, 107 London Rd, Wanganui

Q5253 1  12-Erica Kate Stroude WITHERS (26.4.1970 Auckland) Manager of a 
private nursing home and several dogs!
1993: 13 Rehia Road, Massey, Auckland
*2005: ph 09 832 2579, 61 Simpson Rd, Swanson, Auckland.  Work 09 828 3741 
 johnanderica"att"clear.net.nz 2005

m1 (df)  sp-Sean BATT
Q5253 11  13-Stanley James BATT (1.11.1998 Waitakere Hospital,Auckland)
 
Here is Kit holding Stanley at Laurette's, Xmas Day 1998, 11 kb.

Q5253 12  13-Heidi Louise BATT (5.15 am 7.3.2001 Waitakere Hospital?,Auckland)

m2 2003 (df)  sp-John WARWICK
Q5253 13  13-Abigail WARWICK (14.11.2004 Waitakere Hospital,Auckland)
 
Abigail in 2005, 6 kb.

Q5253 14  13-Jonathan Jack WARWICK (3am 3.3.2005 Waitakere Hospital,Auckland)
WARWICK Jonathan Jack arrived Thursday 3 March 2005 at 3am weighing 6lbs 4oz. 
John, Erica, Stanley, Heidi and Abigail happily welcome ...
- NZ Herald Friday, March 11 2005.
  
Jack in 2005, 6 kb.

Q53 9-Thomas Newton WITHERS (2.5.1873 Donnington,Newbury [1881 census] or
Newbury [d. cert.]-5.10.1921 at Mangakino River Camp, Shannon) 
1881 census: Earlstok Villa,London Rd,Batheaston,Somerset, b Donnington,Berks. 
 Death certificate: Thomas Newton WITHERS laborer died 5.10.1921 at Mangakino 
River Camp,Shannon by drowning at Mangakino River Camp (verdict of coroner); 
son of Edward WITHERS flourmiller and Agnes Mary nee NEWTON; 
buried 8.10.1921 at Shannon by J C ABBOTT Anglican; born in Newbury,England; 
37 years in NZ [so to NZ 1883-4]; married
in Wellington aged 41 to Charlotte Jane BAIN; no widow [so she had died
earlier]; no issue; Alf FRASER coroner of Forctone(?). Station hand for B
COLEMAN at Greta Peak, Motonau, S Island. On 8.1.1902 he volunteered from
Addington, Christchurch as Private 5716 in 8th Contingent of NZ Military
Forces in the South African (Boer) War. This was a S Island Battalion. He
was "formerly in RHA China". (What does this mean?) Listed as a gunner for 5
yrs 6 months. Completed service 4.7.1902 with the 2nd Boer War Medal, with
Clasps S Africa 1902 Transvaal & Cape Colony- sent to his father Edward; he
listed his address as 5 Kent Terrace, Wellington. His discharge paper signed
by Major General NUSS?, Commandant of the NZ Forces, lists him of good
character. (There was also a Private T WITHERS 5.1.1901 Died Of Disease - 
South Africa - Boer War 5th Contingent
 http://www.angelfire.com/az/nzgenweb/diseaseboer.html
Presumably this is Grenadier T WITHERS listed in Roll of Honour
for the South African War at http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/SearchFrameset.html )

For 40,000 names of men who served in the 2nd BOER WAR + a few personel records
of some veterans who served in the Crimea,  India etc.:
 http://hometown.aol.co.uk/KevinAsplin/ kevinasplin"att"aol.com
The WITHERS there are
Withers, Albert Thomas    23590, Sergeant Cook    56th Coy., 15th Bn. I.Y.
Withers, Charles    28037, Trooper    6th Bn. I.Y.
Withers, Ernest Shaftsbury    32488, Corporal    109th Coy., 3rd Bn. I.Y.
Withers, F.R.    33297, Corporal    110th Coy., 2nd Bn. I.Y.
Withers, Frederick Ernest    42412, Trooper*    34th Bn. I.Y.
Withers, George Edward    29385, Trooper    38th Coy., 10th Bn. I.Y.
Withers, Henry John    36311, Trooper    41st Coy., 4th Bn. I.Y.
Withers, Herbert    8183, Private    31st Coy., 9th Bn. I.Y.
Withers, Leonard    32087, Private    39th Coy., 10th Bn. I.Y.
Withers, Richard Mansergh    3953, Private    24th Coy., 8th Bn. I.Y.
Withers, Thomas    26840, Trooper    4th Coy., 1st Bn. I.Y.
Withers, Walter William    43533, Trooper*    34th Bn. I.Y.
 Where are Thomas Newton WITHERS, Paki WITHERS of ../major/major.html ?
 Also no WHITSON are recorded. I guess they all served in the 1st Boer War.
One can subscribe to BOER-WAR-D-request"att"rootsweb.com
 - see also http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BWInfo.htm
 & http://freespace.virgin.net/anglers.rest/BoerWar.htm
Those who served in New Zealand units can be checked at the New Zealand website
 http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/SAW/Database.htm This gives him as
WITHERS	Thomas Newton 8th Contingent, South Island Regiment - Battalion
 Regimental staff, Rank: Regimental-Quartermaster-Sergeant
 Occupation: station-hand Next of Kin: WITHERS Mr Edward, brother at
  Manukau Road Parnell Auckland 
County/City: Christchurch	5716

m c1914 in Wellington aged 41 to sp-Charlotte Jane BAIN (d by 1921) No issue.

Q54  9-Ida Katharine Jemima WITHERS (18.3.1875 Donnington,Berks.-1946 London)
1881 census: Earlstok Villa,London Rd,Batheaston,Somerset, b Donnington,Berks. 
Known as Aunty Trot to her niece Ida LOUGH.
1914?: 57 Upland Rd, Wellington; 
1915: c/National Bank of NZ, 17 Moorgate St, London;

m 11.9.1905 at Christchurch Cathedral by Bishop GRIMES sp-Lt-Colonel William
George MALONE (24.1.1859 Rushey Greene,Kent-killed by a Turkish sniper at
ANZAC Cove, Gallipoli, the Dardanelles, Turkey in WW1 8.8.1915) 
She was his 2nd wife. 
For his biography & their children Denis, Barney & Mollie & and descendants, and for his first wife & their children, see 3 on THE MALONE FAMILY TREE at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/malone/malone.html

Q55  9-Beatrice Emma WITHERS (5.11.1876-3.2.1878)
1881 census: Earlstok Villa,London Rd,Batheaston,Somerset, b Donnington,Berks. 
Buried 8.2.1878 at 15m at St Mary the Virgin, Shaw cum Donnington, Berks.

Q56 9-John "Jack" Tubb WITHERS (24.4.1878 Donnington,Berks.) 
1881 census: Earlstok Villa,London Rd,Batheaston, Somerset, b Donnington,Berks.
 He changed his name to John Talbot WITHERS.
 Mrs AL WITHERS [Q525] gave his book of cartoons & paintings "In Lighter Vein" 
dated 1909 to Henry WITHERS [Q5251 2]. 
 According to his dr's bio below he was a decorator living at Duvauchelle on 
Banks Peninsula.

m sp-Elizabeth ROBINS

Q561 10-Ida Mary WITHERS (1.5.1903 Wellington-1985) "Honeypot" A well known
tapestry worker, she did tapestries for the Catholic Cathedral in Christchurch,
where she lived.  Visited 28.6.1970 by Q56321 Lisa Gregory aged 6.

The Dictionary of NZ Biography at
 http://www.dnzb.govt.nz/dnzb/default.asp?Find_Quick.asp?PersonEssay=5D15
has a photo of her but prefer I do not quote from it.


m  sp-John LOUGH of Christchurch

[Q5  8-Edward WITHERS (23.7.1845 Newbury-11.9.1921 Wanganui)]:

m2  sp-Gertrude Annie MCEWEN (Scotland?-1906) She is buried at the old 
cemetery at Heads Rd & Guyton St, Wanganui in plot LS 10 (46 feet from aisle)
with her husband and son Jason Q58. The stone reads: Sacred to the memory of
Anne Stantiford MCKENZIE late of Auckland who died 22.12.1906 aged 70
"I know whom I have believed". Also of Gertrude Annie WITHERS, daughter of the
above & wife of Edward WITHERS d 30.3.1916 aged 53" - transcription 927.
Here is a photo of the gravestone taken 2005.
 
Also buried there but not acknowledged until Nov 2005, is her husband Edward. 

Q57  9-Roy Stuart WITHERS (11.9.1897 Wanganui-13.8.1970 Wanganui' cremated 
14/8/1970 Aramoho Cemetery; ashes scattered) Wanganui Collegiate - see his 
listing. For part of the time when his parents lived in
Marton, he boarded in Wanganui with a Scottish lady behind where St John's
Hill Post Office was. He wanted to do engineering but his father insisted he
do law. Had to sell his lathe & engineering tools to pay for his brother
Jason's funeral. Public Service exam 1913. Called up "Order to Parade"
19.12.1918 6am at Wanganui. Matriculated from University of NZ noted in the
Rangitikei Advocate of 21.1.1920. Ll. B. 1920. Discharge on transfer to
reserve 1923. Solicitor. A "rabid" fisherman. Responsible for Latin being
removed from NZ law entrance exams. A prominent Wanganui figure. In 1925-27
he lived at 5 Oakland Av, St Johns Hill. In the Depression they moved in
with the RATHBONEs (his in-laws). In 1940-55 they lived at Great N Rd [Ted].
He built "Beechcroft" (now Virginia Lodge Rest Home, 134? Great North Rd) in 
1936 with 25 acres: look for Wanganui's highest Norfolk Island Pine!
They lived there until he died in 1970 [Janet]. He was the first person in
NZ to transmit by radio. Roy made a valve & transmitted the first radio
waves in NZ sending music from a music-box from his workshop behind his
house Beechcroft at Victoria Avenue, Wanganui, where a big motel now stands.
His son Shah Q572 had the radio-set he used. Roy did a lot of Maori work &
had many clients up the river. They'd bring down kitbags of lemons & oranges
for Roy's family. As a child Ted went up the river with his father to Hui &
tangi at Hiruharama (Jerusalem). A waka at the Wanganui Museum: The Maori
got cheesed off that PATRICKS were charging so much to carry stuff on their
riverboats. So they started taking their produce to Wanganui in this waka.
But they got into financial trouble & Roy & others acting for the creditors
seized the waka at night. [Ted.] Cremated 14/8/1970 at Aramoho Cemetery, 
Wanganui - ashes scattered.

m1  sp-Rosamond Malvina RATHBONE (Kaipara-.2.1961) She was known locally as
the Racing Grandmother for her love of vintage cars. Her red ash-frame
1950s Singer 9 convertible Sports car -now owned by son Bob, is in storage
in Wanganui. Reputed to be first NZ woman to have a motorbike licence. She
wrote a book (unpublished) about her tour around the S Island by
Motorbike. Painted watercolour of Wanganui River with grandson Peter -
Andrew (below) has it. Illustrator of the book "New Stories of Old
Whanganui" by Flora SPURDLE - 2nd edition 1959 (HP WILLEMSEN, Wanganui)
connected to William SWAINSON, who came to NZ c 1830, farmer, artist (her
son Ted has some of his paintings as does his wife Elspeth, a
granddaughter (?) of SWAINSON). Botanist, Fellow of Royal Society, author 
of book on conchology - shells). May be related to Basil RATHBONE the actor.
Cremated 1/3/1961 at Aramoho Cemetery, Wanganui - ashes scattered.

Q571 10-Edward "Ted" Sydney WITHERS (25.9.1925 Wanganui -c1.12.1995
Taumarunui) Ted was born at 5 Oakland Avenue. At age 3 or so when the slump
hit, Roy's family moved in with his wife's parents at Number 3. They lived
there until he was about 4 when Roy bought Beechcroft - named by an earlier
owner. It is on Great North Rd opposite & past Friends School, & is now
subdivided & surrounded. Head N on road to New Plymouth 2m from PO up St
Johns Hill past Virginia Lake the road swings L, then a long straight, & on
Left. Attended Wanganui Collegiate. He moved to Taumarunui 1951 as a survey
cadet under Arthur SANDEL, one of the first surveyers resident in the
central N Island. T. Borough Councillor, President of T Aero Club. Keen
aviator from 1960. Commercial Pilots licence. Steward with Motorsport
Association of NZ: raced cars & motorbikes.  Surveyor. In charge of Search &
Rescue, he knows the countryside better than anyone else.  President of
Intellectually Handicapped Children Society. Painted watercolours. Has a
collections of home movies since the 1940's eg going up Wanganui River. See
"NZ's Who's Who". They lived at 23 Hikurangi Terrace, Box 51, Taumarunui.

m 28.5.1949 [where?] sp-Elspeth Mary McCallum SIMPSON  daughter of Daniel
SIMPSON who had Ongo Farm, Hunterville & was Wanganui Hospital Board
Chairman. His grandfather bought Rangitikiland which was broken up into
Soldier Rehab. Farms in 1918. After Ted died she and Andrew's family moved to
Palmerston North.
* 1997: 17 Montrose Place, Palmerston North ph 06 358 8514
*2003: TRY Withers E M M 29 Stonehaven Cre Palmerston North 0-6-354 0794 

Q5711  11-Peter Roy Douglas WITHERS (30.11.1951 Wanganui) New Plymouth Boys
High. MA Hons in Pol Science (Canterbury) Formerly at 139 Orangi Kaupapa Rd,
Northland, Wellington. Formerly NZ Trade Commissioner to Turkey then Greece
and then to the Americas living in Los Angeles. Later resigned this position
and began a "green NZ" company and began lecturing at UCLA. In 1993 Regional
Manager for Americas Suite 1530, Tishmen Building, 15th Floor 10960
Wiltshire Bld, Los Angeles, California 90024 work 310-477.1873 secretary 310
479 8139 or 213-477 1899 home ph/fax 310 472 5366,1257 Tigertail Road,
Brentwood (A magnificent home, spreading over about 6 levels down a hillside
to the swimming pool, with floor to ceiling angled glass windows & beautiful
furnishings from Turkey & Greece.)

m  sp-Jennifer Naomi PEMBERTON (1952 Auckland) Studied at Auckland
University? Did a PhD in psychology from UCLA? Practising as a psychologist
in Los Angeles.
*2000: email pwithers"att"ix.netcom.com

Q5711 1  12-Hamish Kim WITHERS (26.2.1972 Christchurch) Rathkeale College, BA 
 in Pol.Sci., MA in Engineering & Art History. Since c1998 teaching English in 
Japan.

Q5711 2  12-Calem Peter Edward WITHERS (1973 Christchurch) Rathkeale College, 
Masterton; member of Alpha Romeo Club; doing BA in Social Policy.
* 1994: 39 Todman St,Brooklyn, Wellington
* 2003: calem"att"paradise.net.nz Aka Aka Rd Puni Pukekohe 0-9-238 4637

m sp-Heather L

Q5711 21  13-Lachland WITHERS bc1999
Q5711 22  13-Vincent WITHERS bc1999

Q5711 3  12-Aaron Hayden James WITHERS (27.4.1977 Wellington) 1991 at school 
at Tunbridge Wells, England. 2003 a doctor at Wellington Hospital.

Q5711 4  12-Shannon Christian Daniel WITHERS (11.10.1979 Washington DC) Enjoys 
Tai Kwan Do. 2003 with parents.

Q5712  11-Andrew Edward WITHERS (20.11.1961 Wanganui) New Plymouth Boys High. 
Diesel mechanic & contractor.
* 1992: 7 Ngatai St, Taumarunui, with his company AEW Machinery.
* 2003: Palmerston North & Bunnythorpe; running the Bitumix Plant for WORKS.

m 1983 Taumarunui sp-Lufi SILA (Samoa) She was Chief dietician, Taumarunui
Hospital. In 1997 she runs the Palmerston North museum cafe.
* 1997: 17 Montrose Place, Palmerston North ph 06 358 8514

Q5712 1  12-Sonia Elspeth WITHERS (1990 Taumarunui)
Q5712 2  12-Alastair WITHERS (1992 Taumarunui)

Q5713 11-Timothy Swainson WITHERS (1.1.1964 Taumarunui-21.6.1991 Budapest)
New Plymouth Boys High. BA (Victoria University) in linguistics, 1986-7
Health Department Advisory Officer. Language teacher. Spoke Polish, Russian,
Italian & Hungarian. Taught at various language institutes in Europe. He was
killed on a pedestrian crossing.

Q572  10-Frederick Roy "Shah" WITHERS (16.7.1927 Wanganui - cremated 19/2/1992 
Aramoho Cemetery, Wanganui) 
Bachelor of Engineering (Victoria) Founded the engineering company FR Withers.
For 1959-62 he was at the Air Station, Civil Aeronautical Administration,
Aitutaki, Cook Islands. Deputy Chairman of Wanganui Harbour Board. He
invented a process for recycling paper as pellets for burning. Started
a vinyard at Papaiti. He and his family lived at The Grennan, Papaiti
on the corner of Waireka & Papaiti Roads, Upper Aramoho, on N bank of
Wanganui River. This wonderful old house belonged to her mother's
father who did the Maori carvings around the fireplace. One room is a
museum of his collection. Her parents added a vinyard. The house was
visited for years under Shah and Janet by tourists & tour buses. It
has 2 cannons from the Land Wars, & a flagpole overlooking the
Wanganui River. This was later the home of the family of their
daughter Margaret Anne until it was sold in 1999. Shah was a great
amateur radio enthusiast; his call sign was 2BBG. In this capacity he
did a lot of work for Search and Rescue. Shah spent his last 2 weeks
before he died in a caravan at the familycamping area at Nuhumaru, 18m
N of Wanganui where Roy's family had camped since the 1920s.

m Wanganui? sp-Janet Frances ROBERTSON (31.3.1930 at Papaiti, Wanganui) 
Daughter of Archibald Campbell ROBERTSON and Roi nee RICHARDS. Janet's father 
was the 1st child baptised in Upokonaro Church, Wanganui. She trained as a 
nurse in New Plymouth then did Maternity training in Wanganui. She then spent 2
years in England private nursing and seeing Europe. Returning to NZ she worked 
at the Maternity Annexe, Wanganui Hospital. From 1980 to 1995 she was matron of
Kowhaianui Rest Home and Hospital, Virginia Road, St Johns Hill, Wanganui.
Her grandfather built The Grennan, Papaiti, Wanganui where she and Roy and
their children lived. Her grandfather was a collector of European art. The
collection was augmented by Janet's father with curios, mainly from Africa
and the Pacific. Tour buses would come to see the museum at the Grennan in
the 1970s til c1996. 1998: 2 Camelia Av, Aramo, Wanganui. 
2000: President of Wanganui Floral Art Society. 
From L to R this photo of 70 kbytes c1998 has: Kit Q5252, Peter Q5253, Judy Q5253w, Steph Q5722, Libby Q5722, Janet Q572w, Margaret-Anne Q5721 WITHERS.
* 2000: ph 06 347 9911, 60 Virginia Rd, Wanganui.
 #2008 jwithers"att"actrix.co.nz

Q5721  11-Margaret Anne Robertson WITHERS (2.12.1958 Wanganui) She trained
as a nurse in Christchurch then took up rowing, winning the National Double
Scull Champs with Stephanie FOSTER c1985 in Dunedin? She worked for 3 years
with the drug company Merckshaft & Dorne as a rep. then as a supervisor. She
then had a family, did catering at Papaiti, became Chairman of the Board of
Trustees of Churton School where their children attended. She then became
Chairperson of the Board of Trustees Area Association (covering Taranaki,
Manawatu and Wanganui). She joined the NZ Training Company in Palmerston
North. c1999 she joined the Ministry of Education, Wanganui as the policy
analyst and liason officer to the Minister of Education From c1992 to 1999
they lived at The Grennan. 2008 working in Lower Hutt.
* 2000: email margaretanne.barnett"att"minedu.govt.nz 

m 20.12.1980 Upokonaro Church, Wanganui sp-(Arnold) John Gilmour BARNETT
(24.3.1955/56 Hereford, England) 1999 Manager of conferences and events at 
Massey University. Runner. Toastmasters. 2008 working in the Treehouse in the
Botanic Gardens, Wellington as WWF's fundraiser, saving dolphins and supporting
the campaigns to halt global warming. 
 1999-2000: 62 Rennie Ave., Milson, Palmerston North ph 06 355 0933
 2008: Normandale, Lower Hutt all"att"barnettemail.com 
Kit and John 2008 at John's work.

Q5721  12-Peter Robertson BARNETT (29.1.1986 Wanganui) Theatre sports,
hockey and tennis. 2008 to Toronto University for 6 months for some 4th year 
law papers before he returns to Otago University, with 6 weeks of volunteering 
on a remote island in the Phillipines.

Q5722  12-Elizabeth "Libby" Robertson BARNETT (29.7.1987 Wanganui) Netball
and cricket. 2008 doing a BSc at Otago University.

Q5723  12-Stephanie Mary Robertson BARNETT (20.1.1991 Wanganui) Gymnastics.

Q5722  11-Nigel Robertson WITHERS (17.12.1959 Wanganui) Wanganui Collegiate.
He did an apprenticeship as a fitter and turner, then worked in Darwin in an
engineering workshop, then as a receptionist in Diamond Hotel there, then as
senior auditor, second in command of the hotel. Then trained as a croupier
at the hotel. He became partner in a pest control firm (obtaining the
necessary qualifications).

m 9.1.1993 Goffs Harbour, NSW sp-Anne MATHEWS (27.5.1958 Sydney) She worked
for Social Welfare in Sydney and now works with computers at the university
in Darwin. 
*2000: 5 Varney Crescent, Gingila, Darwin, Northern Territory 0810 Australia.
 tel 0061 8898 51178. 

Q5722 1  12-Kathleen "Katie" Mathews WITHERS (29.8.1993 Darwin)
Q5722 2  12-Jacqueline "Jaqui" Mathews WITHERS (16.5.1996 Darwin)

Q5723  11-Diana Robertson WITHERS (13.5.1962 Wanganui) She obtained her ATCL
(Associate of Trinity College, London) in speech and drama. In 1985 she
worked at Databank, Wellington, then Bible College at Whakatane. 1986 worked
at Evening Post & Miramar Christian Centre, Wellington.

m .2.1987 sp-Robert William HENNIN (1960 Dunedin) Marketing Director for
VISA International, major sponsors for the Sydney Olympics. They lived in
Wellington, then in Auckland (in 1992 at 23 Saspara Place, Beachhaven). 
Currently they are in Sydney but move to Singapore 30.6.2000 where he will be
responsible for 13 countries for VISA.
*2000: 41 Rocklea Cr, Sylvania Heights, NSW 224 ph 0061 29522 6974

Q5723 1  12-James Shah HENNIN (2.11.1988 Wellington)

Q5724  11-Rosamond Robertson WITHERS (30.4.1965 Wanganui) She obtained an MD
and Dip. Obstetrics with distinction from Otago University, Dunedin then
studied psychiatry for 1 year and did her GP training. Lecturing in
Christchurch and locum work in 1999.

m .11.1991 sp-John BRIDGMAN (3.11.1966 Auckland) He obtained a Masters in
Dentistry, his MD and ChB from Otago. House surgeon. Oral surgeon.
* 2000: Palmerston North. They went to England in 2001 for 2 years.

Q5724 1  12-Frances Ann BRIDGMAN (10.10.1997 Christchurch)
Q5724 2  12-Catherine Rosamond BRIDGMAN (13.1.2000 Palmerston North)

Q573  10-Ida Gretchen WITHERS (9.11.1929 Wanganui) Moved to London.
m  sp-Jock Morgan VEITCH separated.
*2000 France. (Janet has his address.)
		 
Q5731  11-Harriet VEITCH 

Q5732  11-Sarah VEITCH (10.8.1957)
*1994:  Sydney

Q5733  11-Emma VEITCH (3.8.1959 at home, Beauty Point-17.8.2001 Katoomba
 Hospital)
* 1994-2000: 7 Camelia Grove, Gymea, Sydney, NSW 2227
m  sp-Sean TURKINGTON


Q5733 1  12-Rosamund TURKINGTON (29/9/1987 Darlinghurst Hospital)
*2003 gothic_gal_87"att"hotmail.com - Dad and I live in the Blue Mountains since 
 '95 at 21 Ada Rd Blackheath 2785 NSW, Australia.

Q574  10-Robert James WITHERS (5.4.1932 Wanganui) Wanganui Collegiate.
* BP 1064, Papeete, Tahiti; he was manager of AIR NZ there. Then manager for
for Avis Rental Cars.
  
m  sp-Jacqueline BOUBEE

Q5741 11-Roy WITHERS B.Eng. (1985 Auckland). 1986 French military service.
1987: doing MSc in Environmental Studies, Social Sciences Dept, Waikato
University, Hamilton. His thesis took him to S America. Author of
`Perceptions and responses to hurricanes in French Polynesia', Proceedings
of the .. 13th NZ Geography Conference 1985. In 1993 Ted told me that Roy
may be at language school in AK. He & his Indian wife were in Singapore
where she taught linguistics.

m ? 

Q5742  11-Michelle WITHERS

m  sp-Graham AG MCMILLAN He trained pacers at his father's studfarm. In 1986 at
Hampton Crescent, Matamata. Then to Te Kawhata.
*1994-2003: 153 Herbert Rd, Rotongaro, RD 2, Huntly ph 07 826 6718


Q5742 1  12-Jason MCMILLAN (NZ)

[Q57  9-Roy Stewart WITHERS (1897-13.8.1970) above]:
m2   sp-Bruce Helen VEITCH Cremated 1/11/1974 at Aramoho Cemetery, Wanganui - 
ashes scattered.

Q58  9-Jason WITHERS b1904 bur 26.6.1919 Wanganui with parents. A very good 
swimmer. Died of pneumonia after competing in the annual Wanganui River bridge 
to bridge race. 

2. ARAMOHO CEMETERY RECORDS, WANGANUI for WITHERS my ID no. at Aramoho Cemetery, Wanganui - Joseph Henry WITHERS buried 27/12/1927 Blk B 1 22 Stillborn of Mrs AJ T buried 13/121935 Blk G 16 Harry Stroude WITHERS buried 29/1/1965 PLE II 2 98 Q522 Violet Emily Annie WITHERS buried 6/2/1973 Blk B 1 22 May WITHERS cremated 17/6/1952 ashes scattered Rosamond Malvina WITHERS cremated 1/3/1961 ashes scattered m1 of Q57 Roy Stuart WITHERS cremated 14/8/1970 ashes scattered Q57 Bruce Helen WITHERS cremated 1/11/1974 ashes scattered m2 of Q57 Frederick Roy WITHERS cremated19/2/1992 ashes taken by Dempsey & Forrest Q572 received 26.8.05 from Gary GLEESON - Manager,Aramoho Cemetery & Crematorium, Wanganui Phone 06 3439412 Fax 06 3439413 aramohocemetery"att"clear.net.nz

a. ABBREVIATIONS USED b born, bp (or chr.) baptised, bur buried, d died, m married Q=384281 sp- spouse (usually used in front of the name of the spouse marrying into the family)

b. DATES I use the English convention with month after day. So 3.4.1770 is 3rd April, not March 4.


c. NUMBERING SYSTEMS USED

(i) The number at the start of the line indicates the order of descent from
the initial couple

Q5 (3842815) 8--Edward WITHERS (23.7.1845 Newbury,Berkshire -11.9.1921 
Wanganui, buried 13.9.1921)
AND Jemima TUBB (bp c1818-18.11.1882, Wanganui?,New Zealand)

Their children are Q51 9--..., Q52 9--, ...
The children of say Q52 are Q521 10--..., Q522 10--..., Q523 10--,...
and so on. For ease of reading, a space is inserted after the 4th digit after
the Q.

(ii) The numbers before the name for (example 8-- or 9-- or 10--)
give the generation number from the initial couple
on the English WITHERS tree in Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire,
"0 Thomas WITHERS (c1545-22.4.1624)" and "sp-Joane NASH (bur 1631)"
counting them as generation 0.


d. SOURCES
These are mainly from family members and my research.


e. INDEX OF PLACE NAMES -WHERE THEY APPEAR

* ENGLAND - to update!

-BERKSHIRE Q 1788 Lambourn-1870 Newbury, Q55 1845 Newbury, Q5 m1 b1840
 Pangbourne,  Q52 1871 Donnington
-EAST ANGLIA (East Anglia is the regional nname given to the lump of land
 sticking out into the sea between the Wash and the Thames.  It includes the 
 counties of Norfolk and Suffolk plus some of Essex and Cambridgeshire.-DW) 
  Q5431 4 c1992-,
-SOMERSET In 1881 Q5, mother & family Earlsstok Villa, London Rd, Batheaston
  http://www.batheaston.net/historic/ One can logon to this site & check links.

-WILTSHIRE Q m2 1803 Baydon

* FIJI Q521 Lautoka & Yasawa Islands, d 1981 Suva
* GERMANY Q541 m 1936 in Heidelberg
* ITALY Q542 k 1943 Monte Comino, buried at Casino
* LEBANON Q523 d 1942 Tripoli; buried in EGYPT
* LIBYA Q524 bur 1941 at Knightsbridge, 15m W of Tobruk on coast 60m W of Egypt

* NEW ZEALAND

Auckland [1] A field guide to Auckland : exploring the region's natural and
 historic heritage / Ewen Cameron, Bruce Hayward, Graeme Murdoch. 
 Publisher: Auckland, N.Z. : Godwit, 1997. Description: Book
 280 p. : ill. (some col.), col. maps ; 22 cm. ISBN: 1869620143 (pbk.) :
 [2] The lively capital, Auckland 1840-1865 / Una Platts. 
 Publisher: [Christchurch, N.Z.] : Avon Fine Prints, 1971. Description: Book
 271 p. : ill. (some col.), maps, ports. ; 29 cm.
 [3] "Understanding the treaty" by Nelson BLAKE p50
  3842 2628 42(1-2) c1964,
  3842 8126 742 1978,Q52 1872-36,Q521 1901-46,Q522 1904-70,
  Q523 1908-1998,Q523(1-2) 1941-93-,Q5231(1-2) 1972-present,
  Q5232(1-4) 1964-present,Q524 1910-c39,Q525 1914-present,
  Q5251 1942-present,Q5251(1-5) 1971-present,Q5252 1943-65,
  Q5253 1946-present,Q52531 1970-present,Q5711-m 1952,
  Q5723 1992-present,Q5741 1985,
Christchurch 38428126742 ,Q53 1902,Q541 ,Q54 1905,Q56? 1905,
  Q5711(1-2) 1972-3,
Dunedin Q52312 1992,
Hamilton Q52522 1993,Q5742 1993,
Henderson, N of Auckland Q5232
[Hunterville Q57-m c1949,
[Kaipara Q57 c1900,
Kerikeri in Bay of Islands near Russell, N of Auckland Q561-1983,
Lower Hutt Q5252 1992-present,3842812674(2,4) c1980-present,
 Newton-331 1900,
Marton Q5 1901-4. For a history see
 "They called it Marton" , by Paul Melodie (1979) GPH Print, Broadway, 
 Palmerston North; 10 Hunia St. (This does not mention WITHERS.)
Masterton Q5711(1-2) c1984,
Matamata Q5742 1986-,
Motonau, S Island (near ChCh?) Q53 1902
New Plymouth, Taranaki on W coast of N Island Q56 1911,Q56(1-3) 
  1906-10,Q571(1-3) c1965-79,
Palmerston North Q5252-m c1984-present,Q56 WW1 memorial,Q5712
  1994?,
Piha N of Auckland Q5232
Rotorua Q522 c1950,
Stratford  SW of New Plymouth Q56-m 1890-1914,
Taumarunui Q571 1951-present,Q5712 -1993,Q5712(1-2) 1990-1993,
  Q5713 1964,
Wanganui Q5 1883-1921,Q57 1897-1970,Q571 1925-c1950,Q5711
  1951,Q5712 1961,Q572 1927-present,Q5721 -present,Q5721
  1986-present,Q572(2-3) ,Q573 1929,Q574 1932,Q58 1904-22,

Wellington Q522 c1942,Q525 1941,Q5252 1971-present,
  Q5252-1 1973-91,-2 1973-present,Q53 1902,Q56 c1914,
  Q5711 c1980,Q5711-1 c1980-1993,-2 c1980-present, -3 c1980-c1990,
  Q5723 1985-6,Q57231 1988, Newton-33 1899,
Whitianga Q52311 1992,

* TURKEY Q54 sp k 1915 ANZAC Cove, Gallipoli, the Dardanelles


f. INDEX OF FAMILY NAMES -WHERE THEY FIRST APPEAR

Those in [] are not related. Maiden names are indented.

[ANDERTON, Jim,MP] Q56
ASHTON Q5631 c1963 
BARNETT Q56311 c1985, m 1980 Q5721
BASSETT Q5633
 BOUBEE m c1984 Q574
BRIDGMAN m 1991 Q5724 
BYERS Q5232
[CAKOBAU, Ratu Sir George, Governor General of Fiji] Q521
 DARRAGH Q5251             
 DICKINSON Q52521 1969 Ashford,England
DUDER Q5231
 FOOTE Q523
[GALPIN] Q5
HENNIN m 1987 Q5723 
 KENNEY m c1969 Q5253 
LOUGH Q561 
LYONS Q5434 c1973
 MATHEWS m 1993 Q5722 
 MCEWEN Q5 m2 m c1897 Wanganui
MCMILLAN m c1990 Q5742 
 PEMBERTON m c1972 Q5711
 RATHBONE Q57 m1 c1924
 ROBERTSON m c1958 Wanganui Q572
 ROBINS Q56 c1900
 SILA m 1983 Q5712 
 SIMPSON m 1949 Q571
TUBB Q5
TURKINGTON m c1987 Q5733 
VEITCH m c1954 Q573 
 VEITCH m c1960 Q57 
YOUNG Q543 m c1937 
WITHERS Q5

g. SOME WEB LINKS ** AUSTRALASIAN GENEALOGY http://home.vicnet.net.au/~agweb/agweb.htm ** NEW ZEALAND Since 2009 bmd registers can be searched (from 1841-1960 for b's) at http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/search/ Certs can be ordered online costing $26. NZ census info has been destroyed: see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sooty/nzcensus1881.html 1881 and 1893 Electoral Rolls are on CD. 1881 does not cover females. Judy BERNTSEN can do look ups. For info in NZ by location, try http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.newzealand/mb.ashx

The following is the contents with A4 page numbers on 11.11.2003 of http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withersnz/withersnzother.html

*1850-52 The NZ Journal, Volumes 10-12                           2
*23.10.1855 John WITHERS and 3 children arrived Nelson           3
*1859-1920 NZ BIRTHS                                             3
*1860-2001 Wellington cemeteries                                 3
*1872-1971 excerpts of WITHERS in Wise's Post Office Directories 5
*1881 Christchurch                                               9
*1882 WITHERS in "Return of the freeholders of NZ" p70          10
*1883-1970 Turnbull Biographies Index                           10
*1886 Nelson                                                    11
*1889 Wadestown,Wellington                                      12
*1890, 1902, 1944 North Island Electoral Rolls, Volume 1        12
*1900-1917 NZ BIRTHS of NZGenSoc (Welington) microfiche         13
*1914-61 Lands Registry                                         14
*1972 Electoral Maori Rolls                                     15
*2003 White Pages                                               16
*Undated                                                        19

NOTE. The family of Major Edward WITHERS (1804 Marylebone,London - New Zealand)
son of Ralph WITHERS (c1779 Wiltshire), is available at
http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/major/major.html

** Some NZ newspapers 1840-1915 are at www.paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

# You can subscribe to NEW-ZEALAND-D-request"att"rootsweb.com 

** SHIP PASSENGER LISTS
 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/index.htm eg
  Robert WITHERS 22 c1827 & Helenea/Ellen WITHERS 25 c1824 to Adelaide 1849 
on the EMILY.
  DD WITHERS 1847 to New Orleans.

2. FAMILY MEMBERS ON EMAIL (Q=384281) 38422 628421 Anne & Mick HUTTON annehutton"att"xtra.co.nz 2000 Q5231 Helen and Ross DUDER 2009 helen.duder"att"gmail.com 2003 rduder"att"xtra.co.nz Q52311 Matthew DUDER matthew"att"wickliffe.co.nz Q525 Laurette WITHERS 2008 laurette_withers"att"xtra.co.nz Q5251 Russell WITHERS 2008 idt2"att"pl.net Q52511 Manu WITHERS manuwithers"att"hotmail.com 2003 Q52512 Henry WITHERS henry.withers"att"commbank.co.nz 2007 Q52513 Hazel SPENCE hazelspence"att"hotmail.com Q52514 Sarah WITHERS withers.s"att"gmail.com 2007 withers.sarah"att"gmail.com 2007 Q5252 Kit WITHERS 2008 kitw"att"slingshot.co.nz Q52521 Adrianna WITHERS 2008 adrianna"att"xtra.co.nz Q52522 Sheba Williams WITHERS 2008: shebawilliams"att"gmail.com Q5253 Peter WITHERS 2008 petersw"att"xtra.co.nz Q52531 Erica WITHERS & John WARWICK johnanderica"att"clear.net.nz 2005 Q5432 Anita YOUNG ? Q5434 Clare LYONS clare"att"clarelyons.com 2004 Q5711 Peter and Jenny WITHERS pwithers"att"ix.netcom.com BOUNCED Q5711 2 Calem & Heather WITHERS calem"att"paradise.net.nz 2003 Q572 Janet WITHERS 2008 jwithers"att"actrix.co.nz Q5721 Margaret Anne & John BARNETT 2008 all"att"barnettemail.com Q57331 Rosamund TURKINGTON gothic_gal_87"att"hotmail.com 2003 Q5742 Michelle WITHERS waiting permission For others see withersberks.html, withers.html, withersoz.html, ... -(See above for their full names & URLs.)

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