An Interview of Dr. Sekhar Pathak by Shree Chandan Dangi.

1. Askot-Arakot Abhiyan ka mool uddeshya kya hai?

1- vLdksV&vkjkdksV vfHk;ku dk ewy mn~ns'; vius xkaoksa dks rqe tkuks] vius yksxksa dks igpkuks gSA bldk mn~ns'; ml fopkj dks QSykuk Hkh gS tks ge vius {ks=] bl ns'k vkSj nqfu;ka ds fy, lcls mi;qDr le>rs gSaA ;g gekjs 1984 esa jfpr xhr ls Hkh çdV gksrk gSA ;g gS turk] tu lalk/kuksa vkSj tulaLÑfr dh fgQktrA bl gsrq le> c<+kuk vkSj la?k"kZ djukA

2. Abhiyan ke babat, aapne sabse pahile kab jaana ya socha?

2- 1971 ls 1974 rd ge yksx vyeksM+k dkWyst ds Nk= FksA blh rjg gekjs gemez ;qok uSuhrky] fiFkkSjkx<+] ikSM+h] Jhuxj] fVgjh vkfn esa i<+ jgs FksA ge vusd yksx fo'ofo|ky; LFkkiuk ds vkUnksyu ds lkFk FksA 1972 esa fiFkkSjkx<+ esa xksyh pyh Fkh vkSj nks ukStoku xksyh ls ekjs x;s FksA vyeksM+k ds Nk=ksa us fiFkkSjkxM+ lss vyeksM+k tsy esa yk;s x;s Nk=ksa dks fcuk 'krZ NqM+k;k FkkA ge LFkkuh; ekeyksa esa Hkh fnypLih ysrs FksA tSls ikuh dh fnDdr] ewfrZ;kssa dh pksjh vkSj fQj taxy dk ç'uA 1973 esa vyeksM+k dkWyst ds 5 Nk= fi.Mkjh Xysf'k;j gksdj vk;s Fks vkSj igyh ckj nkuiqj bykds esa tkdj gesa irk pyk fd ftu xkaoksa ls ge vk;s gSa] muls cgqr fiNM+s vkSj oafpr xkao gekjs ;gka ekStwn gSaA bl ;k=k ls ykSVdj eSaus ,d ys[kekyk LFkkuh; ^'kfDr* lkIrkfgd esa fy[khA blh le; Jh lqUnjyky cgqxq.kk viuh 120 fnu dh ;k=kk esa mÙkjk[k.M esa ?kwe jgs FksA dgha mUgsa ^'kfDr* dk og vad feyk] ftlesa eSaus vesfjdh fpUrd gcZVZ ekjdwt dh çfl} fdrkc ^ou MkbZeSUluy eSu* dks mnÄ`r djrs gq, fy[kk Fkk fd euq"; ,d fnu rduhd dk bruk xqyke gks tk;sxk fd mlds ikl 'kq} çkÑfrd {ks= cgqr de jg tk;saxsA ;g ckr cgqxq.kk th dks gekjh vksj [khap ykbZA os gekjh [kkst gekjs xkao xaxksyhgkV vkSj fiFkkSjkx<+ esa Hkh djrs jgsA mUgas crk;k x;k fd eSa tkM+ksa dh NqfV~V;ksa esa Hkh vyeksM+k esa gw¡ rks os tuojh 1974 esa vyeksM+k vk;sA mUgksaus Jhuxj vkSj fVgjh ls dq¡oj çlwu rFkk çrki f'k[kj] tks fd muds lEidZ esa Fks] dks Hkh cqyk fy;kA bl rjg 'ke'ksj o esjh cgqxq.kk th] çlwu rFkk f'k[kj ls eqykdkr gqbZ vkSj xfeZ;ksa dh NqfV~V;ksa esa vLdksV&vkjkdksV ;k=k djus dk fu.kZ; gqvkA bl ;k=k esa cgqxq.kk th] dq¡oj çlwu] çrki f'k[kj] fot; tj/kjh] 'ke'ksj fc"V] gjh'k tks'kh] jkds'k eksgu] Hkqous'k HkV~V]Hkqou ekulwu] jktho u;u cgqxq.kk lfgr dqN vkSj Nk= @ ;qod 'kkfey gq, FksA fQj fpidks vkUnksyu ds lkFk ;g Øe 1975 ds ckn fujUrj pyrk jgk] ftlesa ntZuksa Nk=ksa @ ;qokvkssa us fofHkUu {ks=ksa dh ;k=k,a dhaA gk¡] 10 lky ckn tc vLdksV&vkjkdksV vfHk;ku 1984 dk vk;kstu gqvk rks ;g ^igkM+* dk vk;kstu Fkk vkSj reke laLFkk,a rFkk O;fDr blesa fgLlsnkj FksA ge bls vkSj xgjh] vkSj vf/d fgLlsnkjh okyh ;k=k cukuk pkgrs FksA vr% geus ,d rks vLdksV ls ikaxw rd dk fgLlk blesa tksM+k] nwljk vLdksV ls vkjkdksV rd ds ekxZ eas Hkh dqN vUrjorhZ {ks= tksM+sA tSls cfn;kdksV ls fgeuh] ?ksl] cyk.k ] cyk.k ls csfnuh cqX;ky] ogka ls oku] dukSy] lqrkSy vkfn gksdj jke.kh] jke.kh ls <kd riksou ;k ?kqÙkq ls den vkfnA losZ{k.k gsrq QkeZ rS;kj fd;s x;s vkSj ml ekxZ] {ks= ;k xkaoksa dh miyC/k tkudkjh ;=&r= ls tek dh rkfd mUgsa le>us dk dksbZ lanHkZ fcUnq gekjs ikl gksA ;g Øe 1994 esa Hkh cuk jgkA gk¡] fgLlsnkjh c<+rh x;hA blds lkFk gh fe= laLFkkvksa us 1984 rFkk 1994 esa vusd ekxksZa esa NksVh&NksVh ;k=k,a dhaA ftlls vU; vusd {ks=ksa dh okLrfodrk Hkh lkeus vk;hA 2004 esa ;g Øe vkSj vkxs c<+ jgk gSA tuojh 2005 rd mÙkjk[k.M ds fofHkUu {ks=ksa esa vusd ;k=k,a gks pqdh gksaxh vkSj bl Øe dh vfUre ;k=k tuojh 2005 esa dkylh (MkdiRFkj ls cjenso (Vudiqj rd gksxhA

3. Sabse pahali yatra ke dauran, aap 24 varsheey ek vidyarthi the, to aapke kaisa anubhav prapt huwas tha? Aapne yatra se lautne ke baad, apne CAREER tatha Uttarakhand ke Vawishya ke bare main kya socha?

3- 1974] 1984] 1994 ;k fd 2004 dh ;k=k gj fgLlsnkj dh rjg eq>s Hkh mÙkjk[k.M dh T;knk xgjh le> nsrh jghA bu ;k=kvksa us gesa igys igkM+ksa esa jksdk vkSj fQj fujUrj lfØ; jgus dk nckc fn;kA ;s ;k=k,a O;fDrxr ;'k gsrq u Fkha ij bUgksaus ge lcdks fu'p; gh ;ksX; vkSj le>nkj gh ugha cuk;k cfYd laosnu'khyrk vkSj jpukRedrk Hkh geesa fodflr dhA mÙkjk[k.M ds ckjs esa ge flQZ fdrkch ckrsa ugha djrs gSaA

4. Aaj aap ek University Professor ke roop main, Abhiayn ka Netratv kar rahe the. Apko kaisi anubhooti hoti hai?

4- 2004 ds vfHk;ku dk njvly eSa usr`Ro ugha dj jgk FkkA ;g rks igkM+ dh Vhe dj jgh Fkh vkSj reke lg;ksxh dj jgs FksA bruk t:j Fkk fd eSa pkjkas ;k=kvksa esa fgLlsnkj Fkk vkSj 84] 94 rFkk 2004 esa rks çkjEHk ls vUr rd jgk FkkA vr% ;g rF; tjk lk vfrfjDr larks"k nsrk FkkA ysfdu bl ^eSa* esa ^ge* lHkh ekStwn FksA 1974 esa cgqxq.kk th lkFk Fks rks 1994 esa p.Mhçlkn HkV~V th vkSj 2004 esa 1974 ds ;k=h çlwu rFkk 'ke'ksj dk vkuk Hkh ,d lq[kn vuqHko FkkA

5. Aap lagbhag 50 din, apne University se door rahe To aapne apni kitni chhuttiya is Abhiyan ko samarpit ki? Mera matlab, ki kya University ne ise Adhyayan ke uddeshya se OFFICIAL ghoshit kiya ya fir aapki Chhuttiya leni padi?

5- 1984] 1994 rFkk 2004 dh ;k=k,a eSaus ih-,y-( fo'ks"kkf/kdkj vodk'k ysdj dhA lkSHkkX; ls bl vof/k esa xfeZ;ksa dk vodk'k Hkh iM+rk gS rks T;knk fnDdr ugha gksrh gSA fo'ofo|ky; ls dksbZ vè;;u vodk'k bl gsrq ugha fy;k x;kA lkekU;r;k fo'ofo|ky; ds Mhu vkfn ,slh ;k=kvksa dk egRo ugha le> ikrs gSa vkSj vusd rks vPNh /kujkf'k okys çkstssDV ls vkxs dk liuk Hkh ugha ns[krs gSaA blhfy, gekjs fo'ofo|ky; mrus thfor ugha yxrs ftruk fd budks lkekU;r;k gksuk pkfg, FkkA

6. 30 saal baad, aapne binsa yatra-marg badle, nirdharit samay-seema mai 1,000 Km. se adhik ki yatra tay ki, kya yah thakane wali na lagi?

6- Fkdku rks gksrh gh FkhA jkst 25&30 fdeh- pyukA ea[knqok (ekax dj [kkus okys gksus ls Hkkstu O;oLFkk fdafpr vO;ofLFkr gksrh FkhA ysfdu ftl rjg vke yksxksa rFkk fe=ksa us vfHk;ku esa fgLlsnkjh dh] mlesa ge Fkdku Hkwy x;sA dqaokjh ikl ikj djus ds fnu ge ik.kk ls <kd&riksou rd 38&39 fdeh- pysA chp esa dksbZ clklr ugha gSA vusd fnu gesa 30&35 fdeh- Hkh pyuk iM+kA MSSu tSUlu] uhjt iUr rFkk eSa vkfn ls vUr rd vfHk;ku esa jgsA :i flag /kkeh Nksjh cxM+ (ftyk fiFkkSjkxM+ dh xksjh ?kkVh esa fLFkr xkao ls vUr rd jgsA j?kqchj pUn rFkk fxfjtk ik.Ms xksis'oj ls ukSxkao (mÙkjdk'kh rd NksM+ iwjh ;k=k esa jgsA 15&20 lkFkh 20&25 fnu rd lkFk jgsA ckadh 150 ls T;knk lkfFk;ksa ij T;knk ncko ugha Fkk D;ksafd os dqN fnu ;k gQ~rksa rd lkFk jgsA bl ;k=k dh Fkdku lkfFk;ksa dh eqLdku ugha ?kVkrh Fkh] D;ksafd gjsd dqN u dqN lh[k vkSj tku jgk FkkA 30 ls 45 fnu rd vfHk;ku esa jgus okyksa dk Hkkj 5 ls 10 fdyks rd vo'; ?kVk Fkk ij xaHkhj chekj dksbZ ugha iM+kA

7. Yatra duaraan kin-kin mushkilau ka samna karna padha? Yah yatra Nanda Raj-Jaat e kaise bhinna hain?

7- eqf'dysa rks geus gh vius fy;s [kM+h dh Fkh fd Hkkstu] vkokl rFkk fdlh Hkh vifjgk;Z vko';drk gsrq turk ij fuHkZj jguk gksxkA ;k=k dh xgjkbZ blh lw= ls tqM+h Fkh oukZ ge Hkh lkekU; Vsªdj (iFkkjksgh gks tkrsA gekjs yksx D;k [kk&ih jgs gSa] D;k mxk&csp jgs gSa] D;k cuk&igu jgs gSa] D;k i<+&fy[k jgs gSa] D;k lksp jgs gSa] bl lc ds fy, ;g t:jh FkkAuUnk nsoh jkttkr rks ,d nwljh gh rjg dh ;k=k FkhA lkaLÑfrd mYykl ls Hkjh gqbZA :idq.M ls vkxs mld ekxZ Hkh dqN dfBu dgk tk ldrk gS ij mlesa de ls de ok.k (csfnuh cqX;ky rd vkSj ml rjQ lqrkSy ls uhps ;k=h xk¡oksa ls gksdj tk jgs gSaA vki VSaV] dqyh] Hkkstu&lkexzh rFkk xSl lkFk ysdj Hkh tk ldrs gSaA nqdkusa Hkh lkFk esa gSaaA vki iSls dk bLrseky Hkh dj ldrs gSaA ;g lc vLdksV&vkjkdksV vfHk;ku esa oftZr FkkA

8. Aajkal is tarah ke aayojan, binsa Sarkari Sahayata athawa Prayojak/ SPONSERSHIP ke bina sambhav nahi, fir aapne bina aarthik sahayata ke is bhagirath karya ko kaise sampann kiya? San 1974 se 2004 tak ki yatrau ka kharch kisne bahan kiya? Kya 2014 main aap kisi MNC ya Udyog Jagat se paisa lenge? PAHAR jaisi V.O. anudaan kyun nahi leti?

8- çk;ksftr dk;ZØeksa dk rks tekuk gSA ge Hkh dg ldrs gSa fd ;g vfHk;ku mÙkjk[k.M dh turk vkSj gekjs lg;ksfx;ksa }kjk çk;ksftr FkkA vfHk;ku gsrq ç'ukoyh] iqfLrdk,a] iksLVj vkfn vusd laLFkkvkas rFkk fe=ksa us feydj rS;kj fd;s FksA ;qxok.kh] lgkjk le; lfgr vusd çfrf"Br i=ksa us ;k=k ij vfxze gh fo'ks"kkad fudky fn;s Fks ;k fo'ks"k ys[k fn;s FksA ch-ch-lh- vkfn us Hkh vfHk;ku dh ppkZ QSykus esa ;ksxnku fn;kA uSuhrky ls ikaxw rFkk vkjkdksV ls nsgjknwu ;k xUrO; LFkyksa rd Hkh gesa yksxksa ds lg;ksx us gh igqq¡pk;kA gk¡] dSejs dh jhy ;k dSlsV gesa dqN fe=ksa us nhA dSejs O;fDrxr :i ls yk;s x;s FksA igkM+ us cSuj] iksLVj] iqfLrdk çdk'ku] i=kkpkj vkfn dk dke lnk dh rjg fd;kA fnYyh esa Jh panu Mkaxh us vkSj uSuhrky esa Jh iwju fc"V vkfn us ,d çdkj ls çsl çpkj dk dk;Z fd;kA gk¡] ljdkj vkSj m|ksx txr dh LikWuljf'ki esa gekjh #fp ugha FkhA ,slk dke rks lHkh dj gh jgs gSaA vkSj bl rjg ds vuqnkuksa ds fy, ykbZu yxh gh gSA ge isIlh dh 'kVZ igu dj ;k=k ugha dj ldrs FksA vuqnku ds ne ij dksbZ vius yksxksa rd tk; rks ;g 'keZukd gSA gekjh vk'kk gS fd 2004 dh ;k=kk Hkh tuk/kkfjr gksxh rc fu'p; gh nqxZerk dqN ?kV tk;sxh vkSj gks ldrk gS fd vkSj Hkh T;knk fgLlsnkjh blesa gksxhA Hkfo"; ds vfHk;kudrkZ gels T;knk O;ofLFkr gksaxsAigkM+ vuqnku blfy, ugha ysrk D;ksafd vuqnku vkidks fdlh u fdlh rjg vkSj dHkh u dHkh >qdkrk gSA detksj djrk gSA gekjs fe=x.k vkSj igkM+ ds lnL; gesa enn nsrs gSaA igkM+ vius vusd dke lnL;rk vkSj çdk'kuksa dh fcØh ls djrk gSA bl vfHk;ku gsrq Hkh ,slk gh fd;kA

9. Gaon-Gaon pahunch abhiyan dal ne kis prakar kee jan-jagrati prastut ki aur kaise parnaam paye?

9- igkM+ ds vfHk;ku 'ks"k igkM+ ds gky nwjLFk xk¡oksa esa crkrs gSa vkSj ogka ds 'ks"k mÙkjk[k.M ;k ns'k esaA vfHk;ku ny ds lnL; dHkh f'k{kd vkSj dHkh fo|kFkhZ gksrs gSaA ftruk fl[kkrs gSa mlls T;knk lh[krs gSaA xk¡o psruk 'kwU; ugha gksrs gaSA ge flQZ psruk ds }hiksa dks tksM+us dk tru djrs gSaA gekjs ikl rqyuk ds Hkh lanHkZ fcUnq Fks fd 10] 20 ;k 30 lky esa tc nqfu;k] fnYyh ;k nsgjknwu bruk cny x;k gS] ;s xk¡o D;ksa vR;Ur t:jh phtksa ls Hkh oafpr gSaA lc ckrksa ds ckn losZ{k.k ds ckn Hkh ge xkaoksa esa ;gh dgrs Fks fd gekjh ;k=k ls vki ds xk¡o ugha cnysaxsA os cnysaxs vki ds laxBu] lkgl vkSj lkeqfgdrk ds le>nkjh Hkjs ç;ksxksa lsA

10. Yatra ke dauraan, aapko prashashan ki kya madad prapt hui?

10- ç'kklu ls enn dh vis{kk ugha dh x;h FkhA vfHk;ku dks mÙkjkapy ds eq[; lfpo }kjk egRo dk ekuk tkus vkSj ftykf/kdkfj;ksa rFkk oukf/kdkfj;ksa dks i= Mkyus ds dkj.k dqN LFkkuksa ij muds ekè;e ls ljdkjh dk;ZØeksa dks tkuus@ ns[kus dk ekSdk feykA ou foHkkx dks nwjLFk bykdksa esa dk;Zjr~ deZpkfj;ksa ls Hkh lEidZ gqvkA ysfdu lcls T;knk vk'p;Z fVgjh ds ftykf/kdkjh iquhr daly dk ?kqÙkw tSls nwjLFk LFkku esa igq¡p dj vius ftys ds ckcr gekjs vuqHko tkuus gsrq igq¡puk FkkA ,sls gh pkj ?k.Vs ds fy, gh lgh ;equks=h ds fo/kk;d izhre flag iaokj dk gekjs lkFk pyuk FkkA os o:.kkor HkwL[kyu dh cSBd ds dkj.k tkus dks etcwj FksA vkjkdksV esa Jh vkj- ,l- Vksfy;k }kjk vfHk;ku ds vuqHkoksa dks vusd yksxksa ds ekè;e ls lquuk Hkh vusdksa dks lq[kn vk'p;Z dh rjg yxkA

11. Kya koi sarkari sahayata mili ?

11- ljdkjh lgk;rk dk dksbZ ç'u u FkkA vkSj rks vkSj] vius LFkkuksa ls ikaxw rd vkSj vkjkdksV ls gekjs ?kjksa rd gesa fe=ksa us gh Hkstus dh O;oLFkk dhA

12. gaon-wasiun ka kaisa vartao vaha

12- xk¡o okyksa us fl} fd;k fd os xjhch&xfnZ'k esa pkgs gksa] fodkl ds Li'kksZa ls oafpr gksa vkSj fiNM+s gh D;ksa u dgs tkrs gksa ij euq";rk] lkeqfgdrk vkSj laonsuk mueas vkt Hkh Hkjiwj gSA mudh Le`fr Hkh ge cqf}thfo;ksa] usrk&ukSdj'kkgksa ds eqdkcys T;knk FkhA mu ekrkvksa] cguksa vkSj Hkkb;ksa&cPpksa dks ge D;k dHkh Hkwy ldsaxs ftUgksaus gesa vius ifjokj esa 'kkfey gh dj fy;kA f'k{kdksa vkSj xzkeh.k deZpkfj;ksa }kjk tks lg;ksx feyk] og Hkh lnk ;kn jgsxkA

13. Gaon ki khasta haalat ke bare main kuchh-ek patra patrikau se gyant huwas ki vikas ke naam par nav-gathit rajya mai kuchh bhi naya-pan nahi aaya. Aapne kya paya?

13- u;s jkT; esas T;knk xgjk vkSj çHkko'kkyh dke vHkh dqN gqvk gh ugha gSA nwjLFk bykdksa esa dksbZ çHkko tkus esa vkSj Hkh nsj yxrh gSA nsgjknwu] uSuhrky ;k gj}kj&gY}kuh dh vkik/kkih Hkh ogka ugha igq¡ph gSSA ,slk dqN gks ugha ldk gS ftlls xk¡o okys u;s jkT; dh u;h gok vuqHko dj ldsaA ij os dgha Hkh ukmEehn ugha gq, gSaA os gekjs eqdkcys u;s jkT; ls T;knk gh vk'kkoku Fks vkSj t:jr iM+us ij la?k"kZ esa 'kkfey gksus dks rS;kj FksA nwjLFk bykdksa esa efgykvksa] nfyrksa vkSj ;qokvksa dk xzkeh.k usr`Ro esa mHkjdj vkuk ,d lq[kn ckr gSA ;|fi vHkh lcdks viuh Hkwfedk dh vFkZoÙkk irk ugha gSA vuds LFkkuksaa ij efgykvksa vkSj ;qokvksa us çsjd dk;Z fd;s gSa tks f'k{kk] o`{kkjksi.k] lCth mRiknu] dqVhj m|ksx] tM+h&cwVh mRiknu vkfn ls tqMs gSaA

14. Uttarakhand rajya prapti hetu shahidaon, aandolan kartau ke sapnau ka Uttarakhand banne ke liye kya upaay sujhayenge aap?

14- mÙkjk[k.M ds uo&fuekZ.k ds fy, ,d vR;Ur ekSfyd n`f"Vdks.k dh t:jr gSA Hkkjr ljdkj dh] Lo;a u;s çkUr dh rFkk vkt dh fo'o O;oLFkk dh uhfr;k¡ igkM+ksa ds çfri{k esa gSa D;ksafd ;s gekjs çeq[k lalk/uksa &tehu] taxy] ikuh] oU;rk vkSj vke tu& dks yhyuk pkgrs gSaA vkt fgekpy dks vkn'kZ cukdj u;k jkT; fodflr ugha fd;k tk ldrk gSA igys ;g le>uk t:jh gS fd D;kas mÙkj&çns'k] mÙkjk[k.M dks Bhd ls [kM+k djus esa ;ksxnku ugha ns ldkA bl {ks= }kjk izns'k dks pkj eq[;eaf=;ksa dks nsus ds okctwn (buesa ls ,d gekjs orZeku eq[;ea=h rks pkj ckj mÙkj&çns'k eq[;ea=h ds :i esa lÙkklhu jgs vkSj os ns'k ds lokZf/kd iM+s fy[ks usrkvksa esa Hkh gSa A ,slk D;ksa gqvk \ f'k{kk] Lojkstxkj] lalk/kukas dk tueq[kh bLrseky vkSj fujUrj fgQktr fL=;ksa] nfyrksa rFkk ukStokuksa dks ftEesnkjh nsuk vkfn fdrus gh i{k gSa ftUgsa le>k tkuk gSA D;ksafd lkSHkkX; ls ge tura= esa gSa vr% jktuSfrd nyksa] lkekftd laxBuksa vkSj iapk;rksa ls ysdj fo/kku lHkk rd esa fujUrj ckr&cgl gksuh pkfg, vkSj lgefr ds fcUnq ij vkdj uhfr&fu;e cukus dh t:jr gSA tehu] taxy vkSj ikuh gh ugha] [kfut rFkk oU;rk ds ckcr Hkh ljdkj dksbZ xgjh uhfr fodflr ugha dj ldh gSA usrk vkSj ukSdj'kkg fdlh ls lh[kuk ugha pkgrs gaSaA tks lh[kuk pkgrs gSa os cgqr de gSaA tks viuh tM+ksa] t:jrksa]
lalk/kuksa vkSj turk dks ugha tkurk gS og fodkl rFkk fgQktr dk dksbZ okftc ra= [kM+k ugha dj ldrk gSAdy ds mÙkjk[k.M ds uo fuekZ.k gsrq lcls T;knk vkilh laokn dh t:jr gSA fofHkUu ioZrh; ns'kksa vkSj fgeky;h çkUrksa ls cgqr lh[kk tk ldrk gSA ge
lHkh yksx mÙkjk[k.M ds ckcr T;knk turkaf=d rjhds ls lgefr ds fcUnq r; dj ldrs gSaA gekjs nksuksa jktuSfrd nyksa dks ;g xyrQgeh gS fd tSls mUgsa mÙkjk[k.M dk ckjh ckjh ls LFkk;h 'kkld cuk fn;k x;k gksA os fLoV~tjySaM dh nqgkbZ nasxs ij ;fn mUgsa crk;k tk; fd ogk¡ ^jkbV Vq fjdky* gS rks 'kk;n fQj os fLoV~tjySaM dk uke u ysaA fgekpy dh ppkZ gksrh gS ij dksbZ ;'koUr flag ijekj }kjk cuk;s x;s Hkwfe dkuwu dks cukus vkSj ykxw djus dh ne ugha j[krkA ,d ldkjkRed Hkw&vf/kfu;e] tks vk'p;Z dh rjg izdV gqvk] dks mÙkjk[k.M ds fo/kk;d vkSj usrk u rks le> ik;s vkSj u mls leFkZu ns ik;sA

15. yuwa peedhi rozgaar ki tallash main palaayan kane par badhya hai, is samasya ka kaisa nidan chahte hain gramvaasi?

15- ljdkj ds ikl jksstxkj dh leL;k dk iwjk lek/kku ugha gSA mÙkjk[k.M esa de ls de 10&12 yk[k f'kf{kr csjkstxkj gSaA fdlh ØkfUrdkjh @ xka/khoknh ljdkj ds fy, Hkh ;g vlaHko gS fd lcdks jkstxkj fey tk;A gekjh ljdkjsa rks csjkstxkj HkÙks dh dYiuk Hkh ugha djrh gSA gekjs ;gka rks vfXunkg esa ;qokvksa ds ejus] Hkw[k&gM+rky dj çk.k R;kxus] cykRdkj dk f'kdkj gksus ;k nq?kZVuk esa ekjs tkus ;k dqN tky iQjsc djus ij vkfFkZd ;k vU; enn vkrh gSA vr% gekjs lekt dks jkstxkj ds oSdfYid jkLrs <wa<us ds lkFk LOkjkstxkj ds ç;ksx djus gksaxsA m|ferk dk fodkl gekjh vifjgk;Z t:jr gSA i;ZVu] rhFkkZVu] ifjogu] ioZrkjksg.k] o`{kkjksi.k] ikS/k'kkyk&tM+h&cwVh dk;Z vkfn ,sls jkLrs gSaA ydM+h&iRFkj] Åu] /kkrq vkfn ls tqM+s dqVhj m|ksx Hkh ,sls jkLrs [kksyrs gSa----- lksn~ns'; vkSj mnkj f'k{kk fdrus gh jkLrs [kksy ldrh gSA

16. Mahilaon ki sthithi bad se bad-tar ho rahi hai, jabki Uttarakhand kee ReeDh ki Haddi mani jane wali mahilayain Rajya nirmamn se bojh kam hone ki ummeed kar rahi thi, Fir kaise hoga hamari grameen matau-bahinau ka kasht door?

16- efgykvksa dh fLFkfr vPNh pkgs u gks ldh gks] ij cn ls cnrj ugha gqbZ gSA os vHkh Hkh lcls T;knk yM+ jgh gSaA mUgsa jktuSfrd ny vkSj 'kjkc ykWch dHkh&dHkh bLrseky Hkh dj jgs gaS ij os lrr% la?k"kZjr~ gSaA jkt/kkuh] u'kkcUnh] Hkz"Vkpkj fojks/k] eqtQ~Qjuxj dk.M] gj ekeys esa os gh vkxs vkbZ gSaA efgykvksa dk Hkkj vyx ls de ugha gksxkA ,d lqO;oLFkk esa gh ;g laHko gSA

17. pahadi log bhagwaan ka dar hone se, galat kaam nahi karte the, eemaandari hamara ek mahan gun mana jata hai, fir Uttaranchal srakaar mai itne bade star par ghoos-khori, bhrshtachaar ki reports khabaraon main aati hain, aapki tippani ?

17- igkM+ksa esa Hkh ns'k ds vU; fgLlksa dh rjg vke yksx bZekunkj gksrs gSaA igkM+h {ks=ksa esa bZekunkjh vusd dkj.kksa ls dqN T;knk vo'; gksrh gS] ij csbZekuksa vkSj nykyksa ls Hkh ;g {ks= dHkh eqDr ugha jgkA tc vf/kdka'k yksx jktuhfr rFkk ç'kklu esa lsok gsrq ugha flQZ dekbZ gsrq tk jgs gksa rks Hkz"Vkpkj gksxk ghA ge vke turk ds :i essa blesa dHkh&dHkh ;ksxnku nsrs gSa vkSj gekjk ,d fgLlk çfrdkj Hkh djrk jgrk gSA lekt ,sls gh pyrk gSA fQygky fdlh lekt dk gj lnL; bZekunkj ugha gks ldrk gSA ,d izdkj ls lÙkk dh csbZekuh Hkh lekt dh eu%fLFfr dk izfrfcEcu gSA ij dqN csbZekfu;kW ljdkj dh iwjh rjg ls viuh gSaA fiNys 56 lky ls 'kks/k rFkk iz;ksxksa gsrq py jgs ljdkjh cxhps csp Mkyuk ,slk gh mnkgj.k gSA vR;f/kd ljdkjh viO;; bldk nwljk mnkgj.k gSA vLFkkbZ jkt/kkuh nsgjknwu ds fodkl ds uke ij tks #i;k Qawdk tk jgk gS] og rhljk mnkgj.k gSA Hkz"Vkpkj ds vusdksa mnkgj.k ljdkj ds Lrj ij lkeus vk pqds gSaA Mh-th- iqfyl dk cnyuk] ftykf/kdkjh dk lLiS.M gksuk ;k ,l-Mh-,e- dk fxjQ~rkj gksuk tSls mnkgj.k ;g crkrs gSa fd tks ugha utj vk jgk gS og Hkz"Vkpkj fdruk cM+k gSA

18. Gaon mai Adharboot subhidhau ke babat aap batayen ki yatriyun ne kya paya ?

18- vf/kdka'k xkaoksa esa vk/kkjHkwr lqfo/kka, ugha gSaA çkbejh Ldwy vf/kdka'k xkaoksa esa gSa ij vè;kid vkSj i<+kbZ vfuok;Z :i ls ogka LFkkfir ugha gks ldh gSaA vLirky] ,,ue dsUæ] i'kq&vLirky] çkS<+ f'k{kk dsUæ] lM+d&iqy tSls lk/ku ugha gSaA vusd txg lqfo/kk,a igq¡ph gSa] Ldwyksa dh gkyr cnyh gS] fctyh igq¡ph gS ;k lM+d&iqy Hkh gSaA eq[; loky ;g gS fd tgka dqN ugha gS] ogka de ls de çkjfEHkd t:jrsa ys tkus dks çkFkfedrk rks nsuh gksxhA ij vkSipkfjd ugha ;q+n~/k Lrj ijA


19. Abhiyan ke pichhle 30 saalau ka kya tulnatmak adhayan kisi dastavez ke tau pe uplabdh hai?

19- nLrkost rks 2005 esa gh cuuk 'kq# gksxk tc tuojh 2005 dh ;k=k iwjh gksxhA vHkh ,slh fjiksV~Zl miyC/k ugha gaS ij ge lHkh gkseodZ eas tqVs gSaA

20. Abhiyan se prapt Aankdu aur samagri ka Uttaranchal Sarkar kaise prayog kar-sakti hai. Yadi sarkar Abhiyan dwara sujhaye binduwu pe kuchh na kare, to kya aap kisi jan-andolan dwara sarkar pe dabav dalenge

20- ge viuh fjiksVZ @ çfrosnu ljdkj vkSj lHkh tu&çfrfuf/k;ksa dks rks Hkstsaxs ghA le>nkj ljdkj] ç'kklu vkSj tu&çfrfuf/k ehfM;k ls Hkh cgqr phtsa tku ldrs gSaA vxj mUgksaus pkgk rks n`';&JO; ekè;e ls mUgas nwjLFk mÙkjk[k.M dk gky Hkh fn[kk,saxsA ljdkj ;fn dqN ugha djrh gS rks yksx Lo;a vkUnksyu djasxsA ge muds la?k"kZ dk fgLlk jgsaxsA

21.Kya aapko nahin lagta hai, ki grameen janata bhi kisi had tak gaonu ki khasta haal ke liye, aapsi man-mutao, kuntha, jalan aadi ke liye jimmedar hai?
21- xkaoksa dh viuh fnDdrsa gSaA mudh lknxh vkSj la?k"kZ'khyrk ds chp vHkh Hkh dqN lkeUrh ekufldrk cph gqbZ gSA tSls nfyrksa ds çfr n`f"Vdks.k fiNys rhl lkyksa esa cgqr cnyus ds ckn Hkh iwjh rjg ugha cnyk gSA ,sls gh efgykvksa ds çfr lekt dk vkSlr n`f"Vdks.k cgqr fiNM+k gSA ysfdu viuh nq%[kn fLFkfr ds fy, os vdssys ftEesnkj ugha gSSaA vusd txg yksxksa us çxfr'khyrk vkSj ç;ksx/kfeZrk ds mnkgj.k fn;s gSaA jktuSfrd >.Mksa us Hkh yksxksa dks ck¡Vus esa ;ksxnku fn;k gS ij ml ij yksxksa us viuh le> ls fu;U=.k j[kk gSA bl ckj gesa dqN LFkkuksa ij lalnh; pquko esa dkaxzsl vkSj ch-ts-ih- ds iksLVj ,d lkFk fpids fn[ksA iwNus ij crk;k x;k fd bu nksuksa nyksa esa ls ,d ds çfrfuf/k dks thruk gSA ;fn njokts ij lksfu;k th vkSj vVy th fpids gSa rks D;k QdZ iM+rk gS\ ,d lÙkk:<+ gksxk vkSj nwljk çfri{k esasaA gesa xkao esa D;ksa eueqVko djuk gS!

22. Uttarakhand ki sakshyarta dar desh ki tulna mai oonchi hai, fir neta log, chahe wah MP howe athwa Gam-Pradhan, kaise vikas karya ka poora ka poora paisa gaon tak nahin pahunchta. Kya Abhiyan duaran aap logaun ne gramin wasiu, yuwau ko is gambhir vishay pe lalkara?

22- mÙkjk[k.M dh lk{kjrk dh nj fdruh gh Å¡ph gks vkSj ns'k esa lk{kjrk esa pkgs ge lkrosa uEcj ij gksa ij vHkh 40 çfr'kr efgyk,a vkSj 20 çfr'kr iq#"k fuj{kj gSaA nwjLFk {ks=ksa esa ;g çfr'kr T;knk gks tkrk gSA gekjs eq[; vfHk;ku ny ds ekxZ ds xkaoksa esa efgyk lk{kjrk 20&40 çfr'kr rd uhps Hkh tk ldrh gSA bZekunkjh ds fy, lk{kjrk t:jh ugha gSA vui<+ Hkh bZekunkj ;k la?k"kZ'khy gksrs gSa] ;g ckj&ckj fl} gqvk gSA ysfdu f'k{kk Hkh gekjh vifjgk;Z vko';drk gSA xk¡o rd iSlk ;k fodkl ugha igq¡pkuk ,d rks gekjh çfrc}rk ds >hysiu dk ladsr gS vkSj nwljk gekjs ikl çkFkfedrkvksa dh le> ds u gksus dsA gekjh gj lHkk ;k ckrphr esa ;g yydkj ekStwn jgrh Fkh fd vki Hkh viuh bl fLFkfr ds fy, ftEesnkj gSaA tgka la?k"kZ ls cnyko fn[ks tSls /kkjpqyk] equL;kjh] dehZ] jS.kh] e.My] m[kheB] mÙkjdk'kh ;k vU;=] mls ge loZ= mnkgj.k ds :i eas çLrqr djrs FksA tks lekt ldkjkRed ifjorZu ds fy, [kqn cSpsu ugha] mls ØkfUrdkjh ljdkj Hkh ugha cny ldrh gSA cnyko ds cht lekt ls gh vadqfjr gksus pkfg, vkSj fQj os ljdkj @ O;oLFkk dks Bhd ekxZ esa pyus dk nckc nsrs gSaA

23. Gramin janta sharrab, Van, Rait, tatha anya mafiyaon se kaise nibat sakti hai?

23- ekfQ;kvksa ls xzkeh.k turk fuiVus dk jkLrk ml }U} ls fudky ysrh gS ftlesa og fodflr gks jgh gksrh gSA gekjs tSls lewg ;k vfHk;ku mUgsa lgh oLrqfLFkfr ls voxr djkdj viuk ;ksx ns ldrs gSaA

24. Yadi sarkari hashtkshep nahi huwa, to Uttarakhand ke gaon wasi kab tak apni hatash aur bebash baithe rahenge? Kya aapke lagta hai ki Jaagrook janta, prathak rajya jaisa koi bada aandolan kare? Yadi han, to kab tak?

24- vlarks"k dh ijkdk"Bk vkUnksyu dks tUe nsrh gSA flQZ Hkkouk ls ;g laHko ugha gSA fopkj] laxBu] le>nkjh vkSj turk ds çfr çfrc}rk bls vkxs ys tkrs gaSA ladqfpr {ks=h;rk dgha ugha ys tkrh gSA tu&vkUnksyu dh Hkfo";ok.kh tjk dfBu gksrh gSA 1974 esa gekjh ;k=k esa fpidks ds fopkj cg jgs FksA 1984 esa vfHk;ku ny u'kk ugha jkstxkj nks vkUnksyu dh ÅtkZ dk çlkj Hkh dj jgk FkkA 1994 esa u;s jkT; dh yM+kbZ dk fopkj loZ=k Fkk] ysfdu 2004 esa bUrtkj gS u;s jkT; ds }kjk dqN vPNk fd;s tkus dkA dksbZ lekt cgqr fnu rd fdlh dk bUrtkj Hkh ugha djrk gSA tc gekjs laxzkeh iwoZt 1917&18 ls xka/kh th ls dqekÅ¡ vkus vkSj csxkj dh dqçFkk gVkus dh çkFkZuk dj jgs Fks rks dksbZ ;g ugha le>rk Fkk fd 1921 esa ;gk¡ dh xzkeh.k turk ,d gh >Vds esa vius ne ij csxkj dk mUewyu dj nsxhA xka/kh vUrr% 1929 esa dqekÅ¡ vkdj bls jDrghu ØkfUr dg x;sAgesa viuh turk dh {kerk vkSj 'kfDr ij fo'okl gSA gesa ,d jpukRed vkSj loZFkk u;s usr`Ro dk Hkh bUrtkj gSA orZeku mÙkjk[k.M esa dksbZ ,d laxBu] ny] O;fDr ;k fopkj ,d djksM+ yksxksa dh vkdka{kk le>us esa l{ke ugha gSA ftu yksxksa dks vHkh turk us laln ;k fo/kulHkk esa Hkstk gS muesa ls cgqr de us ;g fl} fd;k gS fd os 45 'kgknrksa] ntZuksa cykRdkjksa] gtkjksa fxjÝrkfj;ksa vkSj ,d 'krkCnh yEcs la?k"kZ ds ckn feys jkT; ds tu&çfrfuf/k gSaA

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