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(A page to ask, "WHO
really was The Best?")
On this page I plan on having the kind of
discussions like:
"What would have happened if Morphy had played Kasparov?"
OR:
"Who was the greatest player who ever lived?"
If you would like to see your comments
recorded on this page, then send me a note.
(?+-, -
8:))
I may or may not comment on the material I place on this
page. I mainly want to capture here some of the more interesting and eloquent ideas I have
seen elsewhere.
"I have already stated my case on a chess
bulletin board. Fischer, at age 29 - 32 CRUSHES Kasparov 10 - 7 or 10 - 8 in a match. My
reasoning:
1.) Kasparov's current rating is 2850, or there about. Fischer's last
rating before his retirement was 2785. Larry Evans has stated is in "Chess
Life", that the current ratings are inflated by at least 100 points. So Kasparov's
1972 rating is no better than 2750. Advantage Fischer.
2. I believe that Fischer's rating is undervalued by at least 100 points.
I submit as evidence Fischer's 20 game win streak during his march to the championship and
his 4-point destruction of both Petrosian and Spassky. So the ratings, relative to each
other are 2885 - 2750. Big advantage Fischer.
3. Kasparov, himself has said that he most admires Fischer for his
accomplishments and he did not have a serious competitor, to drive him further. Fischer's
hatred for the Soviet Chess Organization is well known. How much better would Fischer have
been, had he and Kasparov been rivals?
That is my argument. Make your case against
it."
Richard Staples of Atlanta, GA.
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I will only
add that mathematicians agree that there has been a definite rating inflation of one to
two percent per year since the 1970's. This means that Fischer (today) would be rated in
the same neighborhood as Kasparov's 2850 rating. (Or better.) Also, another little known
fact is that the ELO rating list today is much different in many ways than in the 1970's.
For instance, in the early 1970's, ratings were updated usually every six months. Did you
know Fischer LOST rating points in his match against Spassky? Bobby's post-match rating
after stomping former World Champion, Tigran Petrosian would have been nearly 2830!!
(BEFORE inflation. This translates out to approximately 2880 in post-2000 rating
terms.)
[See my article in the GA Chess Magazine in Sept, 1999.]
Would
you like your opinion PERMANENTLY recorded here? Send me an e-mail and give it your best
shot. Remember, ONLY the very best and most eloquently expressed
opinions will be recorded here.
Nov,
2000. I did an informal survey via my list of e-mail contacts. (Several hundred
chess lovers all over the south-east U.S.) The conclusion? By a
majority of over 3-to-1, all of the persons responding to my questionnaire felt Bobby
Fischer was the greatest player who ever lived. Do you agree with this? Is this because he
is fairly "recent," and people can remember him? Who do you think is the
greatest player who ever lived? Make sure to drop me a line and let me know what you
think!! |
May,
2001. A reader/web-surfer from South
Carolina,
(who asked to remain anonymous); wrote:
"I must agree with you, A.J.
I
took statistical science in college. And although I am not a very good
chess player (Class "D" or worse), I feel you cannot argue
with the math."
"Paul Morphy dominated his
generation by 200-500 points. Garry Kasparov is usually only 100
points ahead of his generation, at best. Therefore, if Garry plays
Paul Morphy in 2001, Paul Morphy WINS
the match with a score of eight wins to three, with thirteen draws in a standard FIDE 24-game match. (+ 8, - 3; = 13)"
ZOUNDS!
Can this be true? I might have said
Paul only wins by 2-3 games. But this gentleman claims this is the
correct score, according to statistical science. Can anyone
verify this? HELP!!??! |
A
FIDE GM
says....
A FIDE GrandMaster - who asked not to be named -
told me that he has personally seen Kasparov AND Fischer play. (MANY Times!!!)
He did not wish to speculate as to score, but he felt that Fischer beats
Kasparov in a set match!! (January, 2003.)
To
counter this, I just got an e-mail from an IM who is in New
York for the Kasparov vs. Deep Junior Match. He says it is
the opinion of many chess players today that Garry is the greatest and
strongest player who ever lived. Any comments? Feedback? Opinions? (Feb.
2003.)
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Cristina --- <fabycris@uolsinectis.com.ar>
wrote:
"I would like you to consider the following simple idea
... At present, it is impossible for Kasparov, or any other
player - for that matter; to win 20 games against other grandmasters
without even allowing a single draw."
( I guess she is implying that the chess players of today are
somehow better than the ones Fischer played against. If this is what
she is trying to communicate, then I must whole-heartedly disagree.
When Fischer did it, it was ALSO considered an 'IMPOSSIBLE'
feat! {A.J.G.} )
"This
debate reminds me of the question about Pelé vs. Maradona.
According to official measurement, Pelé is (much) better.
Nevertheless, people do not have doubts and they have voted massively
in favour of Maradona. Fischer, (same as Maradona); is a
feeling."
"Thank
you," - Cristina. (Posted July 03, 2003.)
(She wrote back to clarify - in her opinion Fischer is MUCH
stronger/better than Kasparov!) |
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