Self Bondage July 19

? melanie_as_light says, "Ok..*shrugs*..enough of talk..shall we get started..or wait a few mins?"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "bw morgaine"
? Maitre_Remi says, "start ..."
crimson_kitten_mott sits quietly
crimson_kitten_mott says, "Yes, start."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "start"
? melanie_as_light says, "ok..*smiles*..greetings everyone..Tonight Topis is Self Bondage and safety mechanisms...what makes self bondage different is..you have the power in your own hands..you are tying, or binding restricting yoru own stuff..now you may say..well this really isnte dangerous at all..but..it is the method one uses.."
crimson_kitten_mott pats the floor next to her and smiles to red.
? melanie_as_light says, "so tonight..would like to explore various styles of self bondage, some safety some ideas to self bondage..and just overall anyones opinion..now before i ramble on..does anyone have any questions.comments or oconserns on the topic or need clarification?"
? Maitre_Remi says, "the media of choice ... ?"
red_feline_mott mumbles incoherently
Garrs_lil_joy says, "self bondage is pretty self explanitory non?"
? melanie_as_light .o0(dont everyone jump up all at once)..giggles
crimson_kitten_mott says, "Yes joy, i think so."
crimson_kitten_mott . o O ( or is that joy and Garr? )
Garrs_lil_joy says, "boff crimson giggles"
red_feline_mott says, "never been here before"
? Maitre_Remi says, "what if you're trying to tie up that "inner child" ?"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "both even sheesh"
? melanie_as_light says, "actually no joy..had an interesting coversation about this with our old friend JP..and he gave ME ideas..jme the bondage queen that even i didnt think of..and in a sense..it was those ideas..that truly made me realize that there are dagers to this"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "got it "
? Maitre_Remi says, "its both ... crimson"
morgaine_la_sorciere goes and sits on her purple pillow and listens
? melanie_as_light says, "ok..here are some examples..and well see what you think......"
red_feline_mott says, "sits next to her kitten"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "Thank You Maitre."
? melanie_as_light says, "restricting yourself in handcuffs..but the catch is..that the key is locked away in an ice cube...unable to let yourself go until the ice melts..now that may be simple..but what would happen if you add some stimulations to that..as you are cuffed?"
Your buddy txwildflower_1999 leaves chat Garrs_lil_joy says, "has read articles where keys are strategicallly placed in places like the outside mailbox and in the car"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "imagine having to explain this to the neighborrs"
crimson_kitten_mott smiles.
? melanie_as_light says, "outside?..hmmm...especially if one is naked.>*giggles*...that can get you arrested"
? Maitre_Remi says, "read articles, huh, joy ?"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "That is where time restrictions come into play joy."
crimson_kitten_mott says, "So that one has to be restrained for a certain period of time."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "oui maitre je comprend i can read"
? melanie_as_light says, "well..see wethere it is self bondage or regular bondage..whenever something is dealing with "keys"..no matter what always have a spare..and always have it assessible.."
red_feline_mott says, "um ....what is tonights topic???"
? melanie_as_light says, "red..topic is self bondage and safety mechanisms"
? melanie_as_light says, "the worst thing that can happen to a person is loosing the handcuff keys..o0(akk i spent 6 hours trapped in handcuffs because of my stupidity)"
? melanie_as_light giggles
? Maitre_Remi says, "lol"
? Maitre_Remi says, "ooops did I type that ?"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "6 hrs eh???"
crimson_kitten_mott raises an eyebrow....
red_feline_mott says, "oooooooooook"
texasteddiegirl says, "how did you get out?"
crimson_kitten_mott . o O ( Maitre laughed )
texasteddiegirl says, "or was that today"
? melanie_as_light says, "yes...consider that my earlist child hood bondage experience..was only about 7 or so..*giggles*..ok..enough of melanie's bondage kink root..but point is..always have a key..spare, and that you can get to it"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "is that why you were lat mel"
? Maitre_Remi says, "*smiles*"
? melanie_as_light says, "*GIGGLES*..actually was late because cchat wouldnt let me in..and was on the phone.*shrugs*..but still i was disconnected about 5 tims...never mind about that"
texasteddiegirl listens.
Garrs_lil_joy says, "cuffs are one form but what about the others????? not that i know of any but is trying to help mel out"
? melanie_as_light says, "another idea..and this is dealing with the ice cube idea and i thought this was ingenious..is putting ice cubes in one side of a nylon stocking the key in the other..and flipping it over the shower bar in the shower..as the ice melts..the key gets lower and lower until it reaches to where you are..adn you can use it to get out"
? melanie_as_light says, "ok..have many others as well..talk about ROPE..Oooooooo..*shudders*..had to save that one..loves rope.."
red_feline_mott says, "well i don't have much to say on this topic"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "Rope is not really safe for self bondage as i understand..."
texasteddiegirl says, "i like the ice cube idea though melanie thanks"
morgaine_la_sorciere leaves Garrs_lil_joy says, "do not use hemp "
crimson_kitten_mott says, "It's too easy to snug ones self too tight."
? melanie_as_light says, "rope can be one of the hardest yet most erotic forms of self bondage..one can easily do a full body karada, shinju..or even the famous ROPE UNDIES..serious girls..going to work wearing a fine crafted rope undies..now that is exciting"
texasteddiegirl says, "isn't silk rope better"
? melanie_as_light says, "*giggles*"
? melanie_as_light says, "well hemp is very rough to the skin as well as jute...ummm..nylon, cotton..silk..have to be careful with for it stretches and as well as is expensive..yikes.."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "talk about yer panty lines sheesh"
exotic_desires enters exotic_desires leaves ? Maitre_Remi says, "nylon isn't that expensive"
? melanie_as_light says, "nylong and cotton are the best in my opinion...nice soft, great to work with...washable."
Your buddy morgaine_la_sorciere leaves chat ? melanie_as_light says, "meant silk is expensive Maitre remi.."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "nylon window rope sash "
texasteddiegirl says, "but we are worth it"
? melanie_as_light says, "*giggles*..i know..forgot to add that nylon and cotton are in my opinion are the best"
? melanie_as_light says, "test?"
texasteddiegirl says, "i like that knot thingy i am going to do that tomorroww"
texasteddiegirl says, "a test already?"
? melanie_as_light says, "did any of that junk post about the not?"
? melanie_as_light says, "knot?"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "doesnt like to think of rope burns in such sensitive areas"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "we got it "
? Maitre_Remi says, "knot that I know of "
texasteddiegirl pinches Maitre_Remi.
texasteddiegirl says, "i liked that knot idea melanie"
? melanie_as_light says, "joy..good point..*smiles*..rope burn is a side effect of bad rope techniques..i mean it should be secure not tight...and the type of rope also adds to it..but i have yet..with the exception of the first time..ever had any type of rope burn from my experience.."
? melanie_as_light says, "i mean..safety is #1..and not many people would believe how dangerous ropes can be..i mean bondage can be one of the more dangerous type of play.....but ok..we talked of rope undies..same can be said for rope bras, or full body harnesses"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "me neither cuz i have no experience in self bondage lol"
texasteddiegirl says, "how does one know how tight to secure a tie so no rope burn and yet allow for circulation"
Maitre_Remi leaves Your buddy maitre_remi leaves chat crimson_kitten_mott leaves texasteddiegirl says, "they are getting booted"
texasteddiegirl says, "it is bad tonight" red_feline_mott leaves ? melanie_as_light says, "teddie..a good way is to check your circulation..the rope should be rested against the skin..not digging in.."
? melanie_as_light says, "ackkk..every one is leaving "
texasteddiegirl says, "they will be back" texasteddiegirl says, "not to worry" Your buddy master_greggor leaves chat Garrs_lil_joy says, "ok then there were 3" Garrs_lil_joy says, "oops 4 Master is still here wif me lol"
? melanie_as_light says, "always make sure that you dont feel any tingling, coldness..that the blood isnt gathering up in your limbs..umm..when you press against your skin..and let go..it shouldnt be too red and should be white..then immediately go back to your color tone..if it remains white..or remains red ..bad sign"
? melanie_as_light says, "*waves to Garr*"
Your buddy jpbear63 is in chat ? melanie_as_light says, "^--did that make any sense about the red?"
jpbear63 enters texasteddiegirl says, "i have only been bound one time"
texasteddiegirl says, "my breasts"
jpbear63 says, "So who wants to get tied UP?"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "greeings jpbear63"
texasteddiegirl says, "and they turned really red...was that okay...it wasn't a self thingy...someone did it"
jpbear63 says, "*bows to A/all*"
texasteddiegirl says, "hello jpbear"
? melanie_as_light says, "i mean take for example if you tie up your hands or your arms..a good way to check is your finger nails..if you press against the nails..you notice they turn white..then immediatly go back to the pink..if they stay white..then that is a bad sign of lack of circulations.."
jpbear63 says, "hi tex"
? melanie_as_light says, "*smiles*..greetings JP.."
jpbear63 says, "*smiles* greetings light.."
? melanie_as_light says, "wb Maitre Remi.."
texasteddiegirl says, "my friends call me teddie, please consider yourself a friend...smiles"
? Maitre_Remi says, "ty A/all"
texasteddiegirl says, "wb Maitre_Remi" jpbear63 says, "hello then, teddie." ? melanie_as_light says, "there are little tricks like those teddies to check for circulation..but remember..rope shouldnt be digging in at all..and make sure the knots are secure..you dont want them to tighten up as you move..as well as you dont want knots to slip either or constantly overlap"
? Maitre_Remi says, "yahell is bad tonite" ? Maitre_Remi says, ". o O ( whats wrong with bubbles )"
texasteddiegirl says, "i like bubble baths"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "likes my bubbles ( o Y o )"
texasteddiegirl says, "gets that circulation going again" jpbear63 says, "So who's being tied, and who's doing the tying."
jpbear63 says, "oh, wait this is SELF bondage....
" ? Maitre_Remi says, "lets see ...."
? melanie_as_light says, "self bondage..we are talking about rope undies..bras..and harnesses for body i guess"
? Maitre_Remi says, ". o O ( I'm too polite to point that out to Jpbear )"
jpbear63 says, "hogties, and release mechs?"
? melanie_as_light says, "hmm JP ..if i may ask..on a male perspective..can you give us some imput on..male genitalia bondage?"
texasteddiegirl listens.
Master_of_the_Tigers enters red_feline_MotT enters ? melanie_as_light giggles...blushes..listening with almost too much enthusiasm
Garrs_lil_joy says, "cbt????"

red_feline_MotT says, "WOOHOOOOOOOOOO" Master_of_the_Tigers Greetings A/all ? melanie_as_light says, "yes CBT joy..*giggles*..but self cbt"
red_feline_MotT says, "oops sorry"
jpbear63 says, "First you need to tie him TO something"
? melanie_as_light says, "greetings Master of Tigers.." red_feline_MotT says, "greetings all" jpbear63 says, "greetings." Garrs_lil_joy says, "well ififn i am to make a list waNTs it to be thougrough"
texasteddiegirl says, "hello Master of the Tigers, red_feline_MotT"
Your buddy jarl_elerikk leaves chat
? melanie_as_light says, "~thinks for the masochists..tie the little one to a door..SLAM it..and pull*"
? red_feline_MotT says, "hello all" Master_of_the_Tigers says, "glad to see i made it mel, had a comp. crash"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "ewww pulled bad teeth that way"
jpbear63 says, "ouch. Let me pick him off the floor."
? red_feline_MotT says, "where is crimson?" jpbear63 says, "wb" ? melanie_as_light says, "well we were discussing how rope burn can be a problem for self bondage..and been going over ways to help that and prevent it..an interesting question i have..is being the erection process with male genitalia..is there an extra form of protection..or..you just wait till the full hardness before tying.."
jpbear63 says, "Tie the rope over the shower curtain, then to a small..."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "sorry will try to be serious tha was bad i know will shut up now"
? Master_of_the_Tigers says, "ok, what was tonights topic, have not been able to get to my e-mail "
? red_feline_MotT says, "ok i was lead to believe this was a serious discussion on bdsm topics and the sort"
? melanie_as_light says, "aww i missed what was said.."
? melanie_as_light says, "Master of Tigers..Topic is Self Bondage...and although i missed entirely what was said when i got booted..red..this is a serious one..."
jpbear63 says, "Self bondage, the best ties, and the most certain release mechs."
? red_feline_MotT says, "ok"
? Master_of_the_Tigers says, "ok, ty jp"
? melanie_as_light sighs as no one has any imput on that question
jpbear63 says, "Dont' worry about it, light."
? Master_of_the_Tigers says, "other than don't cuff yours without a key close LOL ....no, sorry"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "sorry mel this is a new one to U/us never thought of self bondage really"
? melanie_as_light says, "ok..then will shift the topic for a moment...new idea.......this is an interesting thought.."
texasteddiegirl says, "me either...but the knot thing in the panties at work is fun"
? melanie_as_light says, "well joy you know me..trying to switch topics to suit all..some we know about others we dont..this one i happen to know a lot about..*giggles*.."
jpbear63 says, "It depends on what you're looking for, to get erect or to prevent it."
? red_feline_MotT says, "i prefer my bondage done by someone else other than myself "
jpbear63 says, "They both pose lots of possiblities."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "agrees my thrill comes from being bound not being the binder"
texasteddiegirl says, "i was curious as to whether when my breasts are bounded and turn all red is that safe?"
? melanie_as_light says, "another idea i liked..which almost gave the effect of being bound to almost a suspension...and dont recomment suspending bondage period....but..if you tie rope about both wrists..and have it so that when one arm is lowered the other is lifted.."
jpbear63 says, "Here one: put two eyelets in the door way. tie them off to tow ..."
jpbear63 says, "two dumbells or weights from a weight set."
? melanie_as_light says, "teddie..will tell you this..if you bind your breast to what is called purple bondage..where the skin and blood gets caught and litterally turns purple..it does cause..built up and inner .o0(damn what is that word i am looking for..makes inner bumps..ackk..what do you call them..)"
? melanie_as_light says, "not tumors.."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "hemotomas"
jpbear63 says, "hemotoma"
? red_feline_MotT says, "cysts?"
? melanie_as_light says, "thank you..*giggles*..thats the word.."
texasteddiegirl says, "okay thanks"
? Maitre_Remi says, "ouchies ?"
? red_feline_MotT says, "ohnot good" Garrs_lil_joy says, "fancy doctor talk fer bruise"
? melanie_as_light says, "turning red is one thing..turhing purple is something totally out of the question..and even on any other area..that is very dangerous for circulations.."
jpbear63 says, "broken blood vessels."
jpbear63 says, "necrotized tissue."
? red_feline_MotT says, "yep" texasteddiegirl says, "okay just curious....only happened once....was just red....amazingly red"
jpbear63 says, "'dead' body parts with no oxygen"
jpbear63 says, "red is ok, purple is bad"
? red_feline_MotT says, "tissue"
? melanie_as_light says, "red..do have to say something..you mention before that you only like when another ties you up that you didnt see the point to self bondage..have you ever been tied up not to the point of being restricted..but to be tied up..where it is an art form..where the rope caresses your body in an intricant design..but yet is NOT binding you?"
jpbear63 says, "body harnesses?"
? red_feline_MotT says, "not yet"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "henna"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "woohoo"
? melanie_as_light says, "yes..either body harness or full body karada.."
texasteddiegirl says, "i bet that is really very beautiful"
? melanie_as_light says, "~thinks..has this really good pic of a karada..that is just so beautiful and explains perfectly what i mean~"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "addy????"
crimson_kitten_MotT enters Garrs_lil_joy says, "url hmn hmn "
? crimson_kitten_MotT says, "amazing"
? melanie_as_light says, "put it up in CF..but give me a moment will get the url"
? crimson_kitten_MotT says, "Thank You Maitre."
? Maitre_Remi says, "bienvenu crimson" red_feline_MotT hugs (((((crimson_kitten_MotT))))) tightly ? melanie_as_light says, "in the mean time..rope, cuffs..those are two forms of self bondage...umm..spreader bars as well can be used..ummm"
? Maitre_Remi says, "JP .... the point of self-bondage is experimentation, knowledge of what the submissive is/will experience ?"
? red_feline_MotT says, "hehehehe" ? melanie_as_light says, "speaking of the pics..found it..but just quick thing..this was definatly the work of another..can never do something like this as self bondage..however..the full body part..without the hands behind the back can be done"
jpbear63 says, "say again?"
? melanie_as_light says, "http://ms.ha.md.us/~tammad/over21/bondage/japan/jbndg03.jpg"
Your buddy jpbear63 leaves chat jpbear63 leaves "sailortina is back." ? Maitre_Remi says, "that question was open to the whole room ...."
? Maitre_Remi says, "<--- forgets Garr is here ... sorry Garr"
? crimson_kitten_MotT says, "i thought the point of self bondage was to fulfil a need that couldn't be met because there was no one trustworthy that could bind one...."
? melanie_as_light says, "if i may answer that Maitre Remi..not only is it to know what the submissive would feel..it is also very erotically stimulating for self."
? melanie_as_light says, "no not at all kitten"
? red_feline_MotT says, "smiles @ crimson"
? crimson_kitten_MotT says, "Not at all melanie?"
? crimson_kitten_MotT says, "hmm"
? Maitre_Remi says, "... I guess there are many reasons that someone might use self-bondage, oui ?"
texasteddiegirl says, "plus it could be handy during diets" ? Maitre_Remi says, "lol"
? melanie_as_light says, "your Master can easily order you to place yourself in a bind kitten..watching you as you work..and that can be a very powerful trip for the Master..for not only is it showing the power he has over you..and gets a great look at the psychology of how you would tie yourself up..but it is a beautiful site"
? red_feline_MotT says, "oui Maitre"
? red_feline_MotT says, "wonders who is the expert here?"
? crimson_kitten_MotT says, "i imagine it would be...but not everyone is lucky enough to have a Master "
? crimson_kitten_MotT smiles to melanie.
? crimson_kitten_MotT crosses her fingers.
texasteddiegirl sighs deeply.
Your buddy jordains_devotion leaves chat ? melanie_as_light says, "thats right kitten..and for those who dont have a Master..and please note self bondage is not limitied to just the subs...it is a form of masterbation which we all do..but it is taking it up to a next level..rather then just choaking the chicken or fingering.."
? melanie_as_light says, "it is adding to the masturbation aspect to ones life..o0(umm..didnt want this to go back to that topic..*giggles*)"
? Maitre_Remi says, "that's "obstruant le poulet" mel !"
? melanie_as_light .o0(did this topic just really get everyone lost and confused?)
? melanie_as_light says, "ok..translation Maitre Remi? in english?"
texasteddiegirl says, "what He said......smiles"
? Maitre_Remi says, "choking the chicken"
= ? red_feline_MotT says, "LOL"
? red_feline_MotT says, "sorry"
? melanie_as_light says, "oh..*shakes head*.."
texasteddiegirl says, "sounds more romantic in francias"
jpbear63 says, "whew!"
? crimson_kitten_MotT says, "wb JP"
? Maitre_Remi says, "merci ... it is the way I do it *smiles*"
jpbear63 says, "You can check the photo sect of the club..."
jpbear63 says, "I just put up a beautiful karada."
? melanie_as_light says, "but seriously...it is almost weird everyone..bringing up a topic like this..seems to be a taboo with everyone here..and it seems to be of those who really have never done it before...not for me to decide..but..just once..try a form of self bondage..use your imagination..and what makes it wonderful..is the fact..that you are the one in control..."
? red_feline_MotT says, "how you do what Maitre?"
texasteddiegirl says, "i am going to try it melanie....taboo is actually my middle name"
jpbear63 says, "But what about the release mechs...."
jpbear63 says, "If you are really tied then you can't get out.."
? melanie_as_light says, "just wait teddie..we are definately going to have that topic..but waiting for the right time..because the more and more meetings we have here..there are certain topics..which many are really offended by..and are very tabboish..it is those i want to delve into..but back to the topic"
? melanie_as_light says, "well JP that is when we stressed safety issue..i mean with handcuffss..they need to be accessible..it would probably be a good idea to have some type of surgical scissors near by for rope..ummm...i am also thinking about other types of bondage that can be used"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "what if you dont wanna be the one in control??????"
? melanie_as_light whispers to JP http://ms.ha.md.us/~tammad/over21/bondage/japan/jbndg03.jpg <--that pic i meant
? Maitre_Remi says, "kewl .. pictures"
? melanie_as_light says, "well joy in the example i gave with the Master odering the sub to tie self up..would that be you in control?"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "yes"
? melanie_as_light says, "but your doing it for another?"
texasteddiegirl says, "wow that is a gorgeous pix"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "but im still doing it "
Garrs_lil_joy says, "no fun in that "
texasteddiegirl says, "she did that all by herself?"
jpbear63 says, "Well, probably not."
? melanie_as_light says, "no didnt do that by self..but it can be done without the hands behind back"
texasteddiegirl says, "long long rope....i can see where silk would be expensive"
= jpbear63 says, "Has anyone done japanese bondage?"
? red_feline_MotT says, "wb Master"
? Master_of_the_Tigers says, "ty, brb tho " ? melanie_as_light says, "teddi..that is why i think nylon is the best..any K-mart, wall mart, home depot..you can get 100 yards of it for $5"
Master_of_the_Tigers leaves ? melanie_as_light says, "however..i did that once to myself..loved it...and the great part that i personally love about bondage..is the design it leaves in the skin every delicate ripple just ever so lightly indented in the skin..that remains for a few mins..even that alone is a wonderful feeling..umm..ok..that was TMI"
? red_feline_MotT says, "prefers silk"
jpbear63 says, "?"
? melanie_as_light says, "<--Done Japanese Bondage "
? melanie_as_light says, "<--Done Japanese Bondage" jpbear63 says, "to herself or to others?"
? melanie_as_light says, "mostly to self..one time to another" jpbear63 says, "And would she like it done to her?" ? melanie_as_light blushes..

? melanie_as_light says, "of course.."
jpbear63 says, "*makes an entry in his notepad*"
? melanie_as_light giggles ..
? melanie_as_light says, "umm..back to topic"
jpbear63 says, "*then breaks out the 200ft of black repeling cord...*"
jpbear63 says, "oooooooooooooooooo."
? melanie_as_light says, "anyway...silk is beautiful..but can get costly..........ummm..in general..there are those that use nylon stockings to bind..i am strongly against that.."
jpbear63 says, "unless you have shears nearbye, and I still don't reccomentd them.."
texasteddiegirl says, "because of the stretchy factor"
? melanie_as_light says, "although it may be sexy..have to remember..nylons stretched to the point where it almost becomes like wire when tied tightly..and constantly slips..and can overal be dangerous cut circulation off..and depending on style..can be very coarse as well"
jpbear63 says, "No, b/c you can't untie them if your hands go numb."
? melanie_as_light says, "yet..that is one of the primere vanilla type bondage...i mean..when i talk to those who really arent into this lifestyle..you talk of bondage the first thing that comes to mind is the stockings"
jpbear63 says, "Try some neckties....very naughty.."
texasteddiegirl says, "smiles"
jpbear63 says, "silk neckties....*ok jp, just calm down*"
? melanie_as_light says, "neckties are good...strong, sturdy..comes in wondeful array of colors and styles..very cute..*smiles*...and well can get creative..especially neck ties as blind folds"
? red_feline_MotT says, "loves silk scarves"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "splashes cold water at da bear"
texasteddiegirl says, "with the cologne smell still on them" jpbear63 says, "da bear is water repellent."
? melanie_as_light smiles to JP...*giggles*..
Garrs_lil_joy says, "okies"
jpbear63 says, "How do you think I catch all those salmon?"
? melanie_as_light says, "scarves are good as well..i mean they can really enhance the scene with the cute ness..i mean..imaging being bound with a smily face neck tie..and a silk scarf that says dont worry be happy or something..*giggles*..is that not the funnies thing"
? Master_of_the_Tigers says, "ty crimson" jpbear63 says, "teddie, neckties still warm from your Master's body? That's hot."
texasteddiegirl melts.
jpbear63 says, "good girl."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "breaks out into song from australia tie me kangaroo down "
Your buddy morgaine_la_sorciere is in chat jpbear63 says, "tie me kanga DOWN!"
? Master_of_the_Tigers says, "lol" ? melanie_as_light says, "ok..back to topic..for we are really getting offf..*umm..well that too*..but..*giggles*..besides rope, and cuffs..anyone have any other ideas for self bondage?"
jpbear63 says, "Of course teddy, when he wears them the next day, he'll remember YOU."
? melanie_as_light says, "actually..what about emotional self bondage?..that is a little shaky area..but i mean..placing yourself in a confining place emotionally..
" jpbear63 says, "Ok, you're right. Here's somehting extreme: Duct tape."
texasteddiegirl says, "ouch"
jpbear63 says, "every try it. great stuff."
? melanie_as_light says, "duct tape?..new meaning to hair wax removal"
jpbear63 says, "Well that too."
texasteddiegirl says, "but not as fun"
jpbear63 says, "As for the release?"
? melanie_as_light says, "recommends shaving before any area is going to be ductapped..but one cant use that for a long period of times..cuts off pours"
? Maitre_Remi says, "avoid nair on your balls"
jpbear63 says, "Take a pair of shears and freeze them ia bowl of water..."
? crimson_kitten_MotT says, "rotfl"
texasteddiegirl says, "speaking from experience Sir?"
? red_feline_MotT says, "ROTFLAMO!"
? melanie_as_light says, "cant imagining ductaping your penis to begin with..OUCH"
jpbear63 says, "NO NAIR ON MY BALLS. *curls up into a fetal postion*"
? melanie_as_light says, " JP..what would freezing the sissors have to do with the ducttape?"
? red_feline_MotT says, "giggles"
jpbear63 says, "Here it is:"
? Maitre_Remi says, "oui ... teddie *shrugs ...* also avoid alcoholic beverages !!"
jpbear63 says, "tie your ankles"
jpbear63 says, "then your mouth"
texasteddiegirl says, "only with nair....other than that the alcohol is okay....."
jpbear63 says, "then work the roll around behind your back and keep wrapping..."
Your buddy maitre_remi_kitten is on pager
jpbear63 says, "Now you have to WAIT for the ice-encrusted shears to free up..."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "mummifcation "
Garrs_lil_joy says, "no thanks "
texasteddiegirl says, "in texas that isn't so bad"
jpbear63 says, "Then there's cling wrap for SB"
? melanie_as_light says, "oh........ok..i get it..so they would be frozen and unable to move..i thought that was a safety precaustion or something..making it cut smoother..*giggles*..didnt understand at all what you meant..but by waiting for the scissors..since tha is the only method for removal..it adds to the time being bound"
jpbear63 says, "yeah, that's the 'time' factor. You can't get out quickly."
? melanie_as_light says, "you mean like seran wrap?...hmm..saw a full body in that..but that is so dangerous..done for long periods..cuts off pourous release.."
texasteddiegirl says, "that is right...the saran wrap...does that work"
jpbear63 says, "No it doesn't"
? melanie_as_light says, "screw the roses..has a great pick on the seran wrap thing.."
jpbear63 says, "You still sweat like a pig in fleece..."
? melanie_as_light says, "pic that is.."
jpbear63 says, "I know..."
? melanie_as_light says, "thats the point..you do sweat..but if you are in almost a mummified state.the pours..cant release..and that can be dangerous..this is over long period of times...i mean"
texasteddiegirl says, "but okay to do right before He comes home....like a present or something"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "better hope rush hour traffic is light "
jpbear63 says, "Greet him at the door in a saran gown.."
? melanie_as_light says, "teddie..have you ever read the book..screw the roses send me the thorns.."
jpbear63 says, "*woo hoo*"
? melanie_as_light says, "^--recommends that book to everyone who hasnt read it..but just bring that up because they have a chapter on seran wrap bondage.."
texasteddiegirl says, "no i haven't read many books"
jpbear63 says, "start with that one."
texasteddiegirl says, "did i say that out loud"
? melanie_as_light says, "we know what you meand teddie..but that is a good one to start out with.you can get it at any boarders, bdalton..amazon.com ect...a must read"
jpbear63 says, "I didn't hear anything"
? melanie_as_light where is everyone else by the way?
Garrs_lil_joy says, "is here"
? melanie_as_light says, "ok....so we talked about seran wrap, rope, ductape, handcuffs...umm..any other idea on self bondage?.."
texasteddiegirl says, "i am here"
texasteddiegirl says, "rubber bands?"
jpbear63 says, "Hey! Has anyone besides tried a hogtie?"
? melanie_as_light says, "anyone have any imput on the emotional self bondage..or did that question confuse everyone?"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "just has nothing to contribute but is learning "
texasteddiegirl says, "oh i am teasing"
texasteddiegirl says, "i don't understand emotional bondage"
texasteddiegirl says, "at all"
jpbear63 says, "No, rubber bands work well on guys."
? Maitre_Remi says, "non, I just lost interest in the topic " texasteddiegirl says, "do they JP?"
? melanie_as_light says, "well excuse me Maitre Remi..POUTS ..sorry if we bored you"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "no real rubber but the covered ones made fer ponytails"
jpbear63 says, "those too"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "looks to mel scrunchies"
jpbear63 says, "welcom"
texasteddiegirl says, "hello morgaine"
? melanie_as_light says, "well teddie..i actually meant..to place yourself in a state of bondage..lower then what you are...forexample..one who has claustrophobia..decides to lock herself up in a closet for a while...one who fears gags..holds a gag..and places it on herself"
jpbear63 says, "You can double them up, or add them.."
? melanie_as_light says, "yes..joy..scrunches that is right..use scrunches..not rubber bands...."
morgaine_la_sorciere says, "opps sorry waves a hand and the smoke is gone"
morgaine_la_sorcierejpbear63 says, "self mental bondage?"
jpbear63 says, "=subspace?"
? melanie_as_light says, "ackk..that is so odd..did anyone just get that"
? melanie_as_light says, "morgaine_la_sorcierejpbear63 says, "self mental bondage?" <---for my record..who just said that line...that is how it posted"
texasteddiegirl says, "sorta face one own fears type of emotional bondage?"
morgaine_la_sorciere says, "not i"
jpbear63 says, "that's good therapy, tex"
? melanie_as_light says, "thats right teddie...was thinking about that..and it is a form of self bondage..but dealing with bondage of the mind.."
texasteddiegirl says, "i tried esculators the other weekend.....i am terrified of those techno things"
jpbear63 says, "actually that seems to FREE you eventually."
? Master_of_the_Tigers says, "greetings chaton" ? melanie_as_light says, "teddie..there is a saying..and although it is for bondage..it is for all aspects of bdsm..that only in bondage can one be free.......and i find that so true..that is why so many look to this type of lifestyle as a sub..for by binding themselfes to the Master..they free themsleves...umm different perspective on the Master point of view"
jpbear63 says, "And how are you tonight, kitten?" jpbear63 says, "It's a little hot in my home, but it's ok."
? melanie_as_light says, "hmm..ummm...i am completely out of ideas..*giggles*..anyone else have any questions comments concerns...ideas..whatever as we try to wrap this up"
castle_kitten says, "greetings, teddie!" ? melanie_as_light looks to the heated bear..wonding how one would cool a hot bear up..blushes..ummm..bites tongue..
texasteddiegirl says, "well, i learned something mel" Garrs_lil_joy says, "me 2" Garrs_lil_joy says, "more stuff on the not to do list" jpbear63 says, "He's heading out to the cool deep for a moment for a swim..."
? melanie_as_light says, "teddie..every week is a learning experience..and sometimes even i am clueless..*giggles*"
texasteddiegirl says, "i like the ice cube thingy and the japanese art stuff and plus the knot in the panties"
? melanie_as_light says, "<--just pretend i know it all..*giggles*"
texasteddiegirl says, "thanks for inviting me...smiles....what is next weeks topic?"
jpbear63 says, "tied up texans." texasteddiegirl says, "Mmmmm my favorite one of all" ? melanie_as_light says, "good question..what is next weeks topic..usually i tell everyone on Mon..in an e-mail..because..not only does it give me some time to prepare..it also gives others...depending on the mood and what is going on.."
jpbear63 says, "Do they still brand in texas?"
texasteddiegirl says, "yes as in Oklahoma"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "just as long as it aint animals mel ill be here"
jpbear63 says, "Hmmmm. "Sex with furniture."?"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "Garr is the only beast in this beauties life"
? melanie_as_light says, "aww joy..someday will get you on the tabboos"
texasteddiegirl says, "or as furniture"
"sailortina is now away." ? Maitre_Remi says, "lol@furniture"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "bondage as furniture"
texasteddiegirl says, "lol" Garrs_lil_joy says, "has been made into a lovely table once" ? melanie_as_light says, "but serious..maybe not next week but doo plan on having a topic looking into the taboos of BDSM....scat, incest, coprophila, beastiality, pedophilia..ect ect..just saying that..brings shudders to some"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "make it all one week "
texasteddiegirl says, "those a few of my hard limits"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "this way thats the one i go away on vaction on"
? melanie_as_light says, "why so you can cancel?..and yes joy was going to be all in one week..although dont know when"
jpbear63 says, "Ok, I can 'apprecitate' some of those. But pediphilia..."
jpbear63 says, "waaaaaay off limits."
texasteddiegirl says, "what is that...is that the kid one?" jpbear63 says, "yes."
texasteddiegirl says, "what is the dead people one"
? melanie_as_light says, "yes..having sex with kids.."
texasteddiegirl says, "yuck"
jpbear63 says, "neeecrophilia."
texasteddiegirl says, "ewwwhhhhh"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "no kids no animals and no bodily excrements"
? melanie_as_light looks to JP and wonders what is his age discretions are..ummmmm.
? melanie_as_light says, "ooo good one..forgot that one JP necrophila...there are so many that are taboos.."
jpbear63 says, "18 and a good state of mental health."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "thought iwas a necr once but i divorced that dead fu&& "
jpbear63 says, "hee hee"
? melanie_as_light says, "hmmm..*smiles*"
texasteddiegirl says, "do those really have anything to do with BDSM or are they more about mental disorders"
jpbear63 says, "good point"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "good point teddie"
texasteddiegirl says, "the fact that they are linked just brings down the entire BDSM lifestyle and rep" jpbear63 says, "Of course, there's "ageplay". Which isn't my taste..."
? red_feline_MotT says, "ew"
texasteddiegirl says, "a definite jerry springer type experience"
jpbear63 says, "Pampers and bottles."
jpbear63 says, "eggxactly."
? melanie_as_light says, "well teddie..the one who fantasizes of eating shit..and whom a Master may order his or her..girl/boy to savor in his feces.that is a type of play...and can go in the lines of BDSM..but is that a mental disorder..not really...remember..to the vanillas..wea re nuts\"
? red_feline_MotT says, "eeeeeewwwwwwww"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "ick ack uck "
Garrs_lil_joy says, "chokes and dies "
jpbear63 says, "Considering what on the news lately, lets all remember we're outlaws."
Garrs_lil_joy says, "bury me ina cement vault "
texasteddiegirl says, "well......i still think bonkers....smiles.........but then again......."
jpbear63 says, "Why do you think that some people become mortians?"
? melanie_as_light says, "sanity cannot be defined..what is right to one is wrong to another...each person has there own perversion..and what they think is right and wrong"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "better yet cremate me cant get sexy with ashes"
texasteddiegirl says, "raises hand for cremation"
texasteddiegirl says, "as shakespeare said....nothing is either good or bad but thinking makes it so....?"
jpbear63 says, "Use me as fertilizer for my dasies"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "amen"
texasteddiegirl says, "but i have my limits"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "i have limits and then i have definite NONOs"
texasteddiegirl says, "well until next week.....smiles...... be well fun chatters....i am off to roam and go buy some silk rope"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "is home depot open now????" jpbear63 says, "Best store in the world. 24hrs." Garrs_lil_joy says, "lafffs" texasteddiegirl says, "lol" texasteddiegirl says, "well maybe tomorrow....and i might even pick up some duck tape"
texasteddiegirl says, "no"
texasteddiegirl says, "not really" jpbear63 says, "brave girl." Garrs_lil_joy says, "dont ferget to knot yer panties" Garrs_lil_joy says, "giggles dont get em in a bunch though"
? melanie_as_light says, "teddie..a knot in the clit, pussy and anus..really is tricky to do..but wonderful when sitting down"
texasteddiegirl says, "is that what that means...get your panties in a knot?"
Garrs_lil_joy says, "laffs"
? melanie_as_light says, "<--dont wear panties"
texasteddiegirl says, "Mmmmm i will probably get a raise" jpbear63 says, "shove the pager down the panties and give damn the long dist bills."
? melanie_as_light says, "teddie..the only thing is just make sure if you do try the rope undies..that you test it out for yourself..make sure it is not too tight..and guarentee you will be soaked completely.that is why i like cotton or nylon"
? melanie_as_light says, "well..does anyone else have any questions, comments, concerns over tonights topic"?"
? melanie_as_light says, "thank you all for a wonderful topic..but it is getting late myself......and i am exhausted..LGM..wishes we could have stayed longer.."

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