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unclechop
Registered Member
Posts: 23
(9/12/02 6:52:31 pm)
Cam Chain Tensioner Leak
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Ive sprung a leak. I just noticed it yesterday, its coming from
what looks like the cam chain tensioner (according to my manual). Can't
really tell if its oil or what, but its pissing me rite off. Anyone know
anything about it? Costs, how to fix, etc?
Thanks for your help
Greg Across 96
Regular Poster
Posts: 225
(9/13/02 1:33:08 am)
Re: Cam Chain Tensioner Leak
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I replaced my cam chain tensioner a few weeks back (dont wory,
you'll know when it needs doing, the bike loses heaps of power and starts
making a loud rattle)
First thing I'd check is that is simply has not worked its way loose,
only 2 bolts hold it on. Later when I get my photos developed I'll post
a more detailed explanation of this, but for now.
1: Fold back Helmet locker (I'm presuming you know how to do this)
2: Remove the air filter from the air box.
3: Remove the 2 drain hoses and the fuel line that cross over the top
of the air box. Make sure you plug the fuel line with something (a large
phillips head screwdriver did the trick for me)
4: remove the retaining bolts that hold the airbox to the frame and
remove the drain plug from the hose next to the righ hand foot peg. But
make sure you put a container under it first, this hose drains the built
up oil from the air box.
5: pull the back of the airbox up so that it pops out as a single unit,
dont worry about the connection to the carbs, its rubber and will handle
it. And remove the hose connected at the base of the Airbox.
6: You can now see the cam chain tensioner sitting below the carbies
smack centre on the block. If its just loose do not remove it, but tighten
up the 2 bolts holding it. Wipe away excess oil, re fit trunk into possition
and take the bike for a spin around the block. A short ride is ok in my
experience with motors to test for leaks, but no more than 2-3km for this,
and avoid dirt roads at all costs. On your return check for oil leaks,
if no leak re assemble as per instructions below.
7: If the tensioner is tightly attatched to the block, look to see
where the oil is comming from, it will be either the gasket sandwiched
between it and the block, or the small hole in the back of the tensioner.
(Used for fitting the tensioner).
8: Either way you are at least going to need a new gasket from Suzuki.
But it the oil is comming from the small hole in the back of the tensioner
you will need a new tensioner too as it has blown its internal seals. Tensioners
are not servicable
Note: If you need to replace the tensioner expect it to take a few
days to arrive, I did not find a dealer in Syd who had one in stock.
*****Removing Tensioner*****
This is VERY important, get a small flat head screw driver, and after
you have loosened off the tensioner retaining bolts (2 of them) insert
the screwdriver into the hole in the back of the tensioner (some tensioners
have a rubber cap covering the hole, remove the cap and put to one side
somewhere safe, you will need it again) and wind the tensioner pressure
back. The screwdriver will only turn in one direction, from memory that
is anti-clockwise or a right hand thread. Once wound back, hold the pressure
onto the screwdriver and use your other hand to remove the retaining bolts,
then remove tensioner with screwdriver in place.
If you fail to do this and the internal retaining clip on the tensioning
spring has broken you can inadvertently send small pieces of metal into
the motor when you pull the tensioner away from the block, ouch.
If the gasket did not come away with the tensioner it should now be
removed.
Clean up the contact area and do not be tempted to stick any object
into the hole the tensioner came out of, the cam chain slider sits just
behind this hole and could be damaged if you do. Damaged slider = full
re build because of the block desighn in order to get at the bastard.
*****Replacing Tensioner******
If you are fitting a new tensioner, DO NOT remove the small piece of
metal in the hole in the back of it, trust me it will make this job much
easier. If you are re fitting the old tensioner, wind the screw in the
back as far back as you can (the rod at the other end will retract as you
do this but you have to push on the rod at the same time as well, then
LEAVE the screwdriver in place, so make sure you use the smallest driver
you can).
Smear some new oil onto the facing side of the tensioner then slide
the new gasket on to the tensioner, and add a smear of oil to the clean
face of the gasket as well.
If your fitting a new tensioner this is dead easy, just slide the new
tensioner into place and fit the retaining bolts sufficiently that the
tensioner can't wobble, then remove the small metal piece from the rear,
you will hear it click (loudly) as it takes up the slack, then replace
the original rubber cap if you have it. Tighten bolts and start to re assemble
the rest of the bike.
Re fitting the old tensioner however is a bit of a bitch to do. Not
only do you have to put the tensioner into its hole, and fit the retaining
bolts, all the time while doing this you have to keep pressure on the small
screwdriver atatched to the screw in the back of the tensioner to prevent
it from extending, you can NOT let the pressure off until the retaining
bolts have the tensioner flush up against the block and tight enough that
the tensioner can not wobble. Now remove the screwdriver and properly tighten
retaining bolts & replace the rubber cap if you have it.
You can now refit the air box(dont forget the drain tube and its plug
next to your right foot peg), filter, breather tubes and fuel line. Just
a note with the air box, it is much easier to re fit if you back the retaining
clips off a bit on the rubber connectors for the carbie air intakes, then
slip your hand into the air box and use your fingers to stretch the rubber
collars over the carbie necks from within, hence why I said to remove the
air filter earlier.
All up this job took me about 2 hours once I had all the parts. The
new tensioner was about $45.00, and the gasket about $8.00. And do not
remove the tensioner if you dont have a new gasket to go on.
Greg
The above information is offered purely from my own experiences with
this bike, I am not a mechanic of any sort and offer no guarantees to the
results obtained, and accept no liability for any loses or injuries sustained
whilst performing, or as a result of performing this operation.
Edited by: Greg Across 96 at: 9/13/02 1:38:37 am
Tensioner Hole
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Att Greg:
This is probably a ridiculous question, but you said that there is
a hole at the "back" of the cam chain tensioner that oil can come out.
Could this be right in the middle of what i can see as the "Front" of the
tensioner, and covered by a small black rubber cover? I dont wunna go ripping
off the cover when it is something important.
Cheers Mate
Greg Across 96
Regular Poster
Posts: 233
(9/15/02 9:52:26 pm)
Reply
Re: Tensioner Hole
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Well yeah that rubber cover is actually a plug, you remove it
to get access to the screw retainer insode the tensioner, as I explained
in the previous posts(don't loose it, it has to go back in later on). I
probably should have pointed out that anyting I call the "Back of" or "Front
of" usualy refers to how it is possitioned when installed on the bike with
reference to its backward or forward orientation on the bike.
i.e, the cam chain tensioner is accesible from the trailing side of
the motor, as is the rubber plug so its on the back of the tensioner.
Sory if I confused anyone.
Greg.
Edited by: Greg Across 96 at: 9/15/02 10:14:01 pm
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