1706 Abp. Dawes. Number of papists per parish are given; therefore they are of numerical interest only. These are numbers of householders.
1735 Abp. Blackburne. Names of papists are given in each parish so are of much greater interest. Persons over 13 years of age only are included.
1743 Abp. Herring. Numbers of families per parish who are papists are given and are computed at five persons per family, therefore like those of 1706 they are only of numerical interest.
1753 A nominal returns for Efton only, made by Rev. Johnathan Robinson the vicar at the request of the new Lord of the Manor Mr. Cary Elwes to the Archbishop. This is quite useful and, together with the relevant correspondence, forms an appendix following the text.
1767 Abp. Drummond. Numerically classified into papists per parish, and further into age groups per Deanery. The figures for Cleveland are:-
Persons under 18. | Persons 18 to 50 | Persons over 50 | Priests | Total | |||||||
Male | Female | Male | Female | Male | Female | excl. priests | |||||
167 | 184 | 203 | 234 | 98 | 105 | 7 | 991 | ||||
The comparative figures for Bulmer Deanery are:- | |||||||||||
76 | 63 | 95 | 114 | 24 | 28 | 3 | 400 | ||||
whilst those for Rydal Deanery are:- | |||||||||||
29 | 35 | 38 | 55 | 26 | 13 | 2 | 196 |
1780 Nominal returns by parish; very useful, especially those for Lythe which give families with their children; also appendixed.
All other dates dealt with are civil lists giving papists by name in each parish, again forming an appendix.
As to be expected the early lists are content to relate merely the names with little or no embellishments so Mary Lyth,a spinster, is entered as an Egton Papist in 1637 the imiddle of the reign of King Charles I. Notwithstanding the growing difficulties between the Royalists and the Parliamentarians, time was found to compile a much more comphrehensive list only four years later in 1641. This time Egton Parish papists include Elizabeth Lyth a widow, George Lyth a tailor, Mary his wife, and John Lyth also a tailor perhaps his son, Alice Lyth a widow, and John Lyth a fuller.
1680 list for Egton, made up at a time when the government is viewing the attempts of the king Charles II to lighten the lot of the papists with grave disquiet, shows John Lyth junior, together with Elizabeth and Ellin no doubt his children, and Mary Lyth and Francis Lyth in separate entries.
Having, by 1691, obliged King James II, the even more lenient brother and successor of Charles II, to leave the country (the Queen had recently given birth to a son and heir to the throne - how similar to the case of King Farouk of Eygpt some years ago) the government proceeded with vigour to round up the papists and other dissenters. Their efforts produced a massive dossier containing, in the case of Egton Parish, no fewer than 172 names. It is not a little suprising therefore to discover only one Lyth - Richard, among all these. The reader may make his own conclusions as to the whereabouts of the other Lyths; their absence from the list seems to have created a precedent for the next Egton list dealt with has only 36 names. Nevertheless this does not preclude the possibility that some Lyths as well as other families may have conformed due to the pressure of the laws against them.
This list dated 17l6 in the begining of the reign of George I, once again has only one Lyth - John.
By 1735, the return of Archbishop Blackburne the Lyths of Egton appear either to have given up the struggle, died out or moved to another area, since only Margaret "poor" and Mary a servant remain.
Ambrose Lyth, recusant, is living at Egton in 1745, and by 1753 is entered as having a papist wife and four chidren. This is immediately after the Stuart effort by Bonnie Prince Charlie to regain the throne. It is more than a coincidence that many of the civil lists appear after a severe scare. The 1680 one above, was made after the Titus Oates "plot" which resulted in the arrest and cruel execution of the Egton born missionary priest the Ven. Nicholas Postgate in 1679. The one for 1716 was the year after the earlier attempt by the Stuarts on the throne.
At the time of the Gordon Riots in London in 1780 another list appeared. In it we find John Lyth with seven children, William with none, Thomas and Anna with one child, another Thomas, Mary his wife and six children, Elizabeth with one child and Richard and Mary with two children.
It is not known whether any of tshe above lists include Glaisdale papists as for a considerable time it was a chapelry of Egton. However a Thomas Lyth is one of six names of Glaisdale papists in 1745. Three Lyth families from Glaisdale are in the 1780 return. They are Thomas and Elizabeth his wife and two children, John and Mary his wife and two children, Francis and Mary his wife and one child and Eleanor with none.
When the Lythe parish returns are examined, the year 1691 shows Elizabeth Lyth from Hildaswell the old name of Hinderwell, the year 1716 reveals John and Elizabeth his wife and William, Maria and John Children. 1735 Richard, wife Isabell with John and Ellen children, but in 1745 only John Lyth is present, and in 1780 only one family namely Richard and Susanna with no children entered.
Although Ugthorpe, a chapelry of Lythe merits long lists in its own right, there are no Lyth names between 1691 and 1745.
No Lyths appear to have moved to Whitby in great nunbers. 1691 reveals Margarita and 1735 Ambrose and Mary. Ambrose being a carpenter.
So far no certain lines of continuity of descent are visible. The first traces to appear are to be found in the records of Rev. John Hervey alias Rivett a missionary priest who served Ugthorpe for eleven years between 1734 and 1745, in which year he was arrested, imprisoned and banished from the district. Mention of his exploits and the stir he made by them in the Archepiscopal circles has been made already.
Date | Parish | Parties | Home or witnesses | |
1. | ? Lyth & Elizabeth b.1568 | Recusants 1614 Eg.5 years | ||
2. | George Lyth & Mary both b. 1588 | Recusants 1611/14 Eg. 7yrs | ||
3. | Robert (1584) Lyth & Elizabeth | Recusants 1611/14 Eg. 8yrs | ||
4. | 1/ 2/1628 | Egton | Thos. Rickinson & Mary Lyth | |
5. | John Lyth & Mary weaver | Recusants 1632 Egton | ||
6. | 22/ 6/1649 | Egton | Pet. Coverdale & Alice Lyth | |
7. | 25/ 1/1641 | Lythe | John Lyth & Anne Harrison | |
8. | 27/ 9/1653 | Egton | John Lyth & Ellen Hunter | |
9. | Timothy Lyth & Ellinor | Recusants 1674 Egton | ||
10. | 11/ 5/1656 | Lythe | John Lyth & Elizabeth Ducke | Leaserigg |
11. | Thomas Lyth & Anne | Recusants 1674 Egton | ||
12. | Matthew Lyth & Margaret (Eskdaleside) | Recusants 1674 | ||
13. | John Lyth & Elizabeth | Recusants 1716 Lythe | ||
14. | Ambrose Lyth & Elizabeth | Recusants 1745/53 Egton | ||
15. | Richard Lyth & Isabell | Recusants 1735 Lythe | ||
16. | John Harrison & Helen Lyth | |||
17. | 17/ 1/1703 | Egton | John Lyth & Ann Melson | |
18. | 1/ 1/1737 | Lythe | Robert Lyth & Elizabeth Crosby | |
19. | 27/12/1739 | Lythe | Ambrose Lyth & Susanna Marshall | |
20. | 16/ 6/1741 | Lythe | John Lyth & Mary Ward | |
21. | 2/ 2/1741 | Lythe | Williiam Lyth & Ann Booth | |
22. | 30/ 5/1742 | Egton | Thomas Lyth & Sarah Campion | |
23. | 5/ 5/1760 | Egton | John Lyth & Ann White | |
24. | Ambrose Lyth & Mary carpenter | Recusants 1735 Whitby | ||
25. | 25/ 7/1763 | Skelton | Richard Lyth & Susanna Stonehouse | 1780 Lythe |
26. | 15/ 5/1764 | Danby | John Lyth & Ann Hind | |
27. | 7/ 1/1766 | Egton | John Harrison & Elizabeth Lyth | Recusants 1780 Egton |
28. | 31/ 3/1768 | Danby | Thomas Lyth & Mary Cornforth | Recusants 1780 Egton |
29. | 25/ 5/1779 | Lythe | Thomas Lyth & Elizabeth Taylor | Recusants 1780 Glaisdale |
30. | 14/4/ 1774 | Skelton | Thomas Lyth & Ann Harrison | Recusants 1780 Egton |
31. | 24/ 5/1774 | Egton | Richard Lyth & Elizabeth Hutchinson | Shorefoot |
32. | 10/ 2/1776 | Egton | James Tiplady & Ann Lyth | |
33. | 8/ 1/1778 | Lythe | Francis Lyth & Mary Seagroves | Recusants 178O Lythe |
34. | 16/ 6/1778 | Danby | Richard Lyth & Mary Cornforth | Recusants 1780 Egton |
35. | 4/ 2/1783 | Lythe | Ambrose Lyth & Mary Welford | Howe House |
36. | 7/ 1/1790 | Egton | Richard Lyth & Ann Hoggarth | Egton village, tailor |
37. | 23/ 9/1792 | Lythe | John Lyth & Jane Thompson | Sandsend |
38. | 12/ 1/1794 | Egton | George Barker & Ann Lyth | |
39. | 10/8/1795 | Danby | William Lyth & Elizabeth Mead | Westonby |
40. | 15/ 2/1797 | Egton | Matthew Roe & Frances Lyth | |
41. | 24/4/1804 | Egton | Richard Lyth & Esther Mead | Shorefoot |
42. | 15/5/1808 | Egton | Charles Knaggs & Catherine Lyth | |
43. | 6/1/1810 | Danby | Geo. Lennard & Jane Lyth | |
44. | 15/8/1816 | Egton | Wm. Fletcher & Elizabeth Lyth | |
45. | 3/6/1816 | Whitby | Cornelius Lyth & Jane Collier widow | |
46. | 10/1/1818 | Whitby | Joseph Lyth & Mary Newton | |
47. | 30/9/1820 | Egton | Ralph Child & Elizabeth Lyth | Egton Grange |
48. | 21/10/1822 | Egton | William Lyth & Mary Harrison | Westonby 2nd m.lst |
49. | 20/ 1/1824 | Lythe | John Lyth & Ann Wood | |
50. | 22/ 4/1828 | Egton | George Swales & Elizabeth Lyth | |
51. | 18/ 8/1832 | Whitby | Peter Lyth & Mary Ann Welford s. | John & Hannah Duck |
52. | 24/11/1832 | Whitby | Philip Lyth & Elizabeth Elwick | |
53. | 9/ 6/1832 | Egton | Thomas Lyth & Rose Harrison | |
54. | 28/11/1835 | Egton | Jn. Readman & Mary Lyth | |
55. | 9/ 4/1837 | Egton Bridge | Geo. Hoggarth & Ann Lyth | |
56. | Whitby | Ambrose Lyth & Isabel ? |
Ugth. Egton | John Fletcher m. Mary | Before 181O lived Ealholme |
Whitby Egton | Thomas m. Jane Winspear | Before 1819 |
Ugthorpe | Henry m. Jane EIders | Before 1829 |
Egton | William Pennock m. Anna | Before 1838 |
Whitby | John m. Hannah Duck | Before 1808 |
Whitby | Ambrose m. Isabell ? | Before 1834 |
Whitby | Peter m. Mary Ann Welford | Before 1837 (Eldest son of John/Hannah) |
Q 61. | Mary | b. 1845 | m. Thomas Pearson son of Francis, Westonby wit. Geo Pearson Ann L? |
Q 62. | Thomas | b. 1848 | |
Q 63. | Jane | b. 1850 | m. Aaron Hart s Francis Ugthorpe, wit. Thos. & Esther S'foot and Thos. Pearson & Mary L S'ft |
Q 64. | Esther | b. 1852 | |
Q 65. | Elizabeth | b. 1858 | |
Q 66. | Hlannah | b. 1860 | and no doubt others. Richard died on April 19th 1881, aged 64. |
John | b. 1834 | d. aged 5 s/fever - Mgt. Underwood nee Harrison informed |
Godparents Richard Lyth junior, and Ann White, for 2nd child. | ||
Richard | b. 3/10/1836 | d. aged 3 of Burns |
Ambrose | b. 1841 | |
William | b. 11/ 2/1843 | Godparents Robert Burnett and Ann Knaggs |
John | b. 31/10/1845 | Godparents George Swales and Margaret Underwood |
Richard | b. 1849 | |
Thomas | b. 3/12/1853 | Godparents Richard Lyth and Rebecca Readman |
12/2/1740 | John Harrison of Greenhouses | p. Danby | m. Helen Lyth of Cockwoodnuke | p. Lythe | in the presence of Mary Harrison, John Lyth and Matthias Booth. |
7/1/1741 | William Lyth of Cockwoodnuke | p. Lythe | m. Ann Booth | p. Whitby | in the presence of Thomas and Richard Lyth, Dorothy Gallilee (Gallon?), and Robert Stephenson. |
28/5/1741 | John Lyth of Cockwoodnuke | p. Lythe | m. Mary Ward | p. Lythe | in the presence of Ambrose and Richard Lyth |
"May 11th 1656 John Lyth of Leiserirr - Elizabeth Ducke of the same by Thomas Lascelles Esq. J.P. North Riding, York, witnesses Robert White of Egton and Richard Harland of Godeland."
The spelling of the surname is significant. A child Elizabeth daughter of John Lyth was baptised on November 4th 1657. The burials add more information:-
John Lyth's wife died or rather was buried on March 14th 1654, John Lyth of Buscoe was buried February 23rd 1670. A third John Lyth of Cockernuke was buried on August 8th 1711, whilst Mary , daughter of Richard Lyth of Cockernuke was buried on May 25th 1705.
A will of Buscoe John has been found which tells of his wife Alice and sons John and Thomas.
That Cockernuke was a recusant homestead it is fairly safe to assume but no evidence of recusancy relates to the other parish occurences. The coincidence between the Susannah wife of Ambrose and the Susannah Marshall in the first will above, has not been overlooked neither has the almost certain identity of Ambrose as the son of Mary above mentioned.
Disregarding, for the moment, the records of Father Hervey, the close ot the eigteenth century sees the establishment of the earliset post-recusant communities and the beginning of their precautionary Latin registers. These provide the source material for the next section of the family history, with some help from the parish registers since use was made of both bt those anxious to avoid the fines for non-registration. Some even went so far as to have their children "registered but not baptised" a practise which was permitted by some less bitter vicars. So it is seen that not all entries are certain evidence of a bastism or marriage in that church.
As with all recusant famiIies the difficulty now arises, which has already been encountered, namely that of linking up vaious names into the correct families. It will be well to commence with the earliest positively recusant group that can be seen to be a well established family and because few of the names on the previous page fulfil these requirements a start will be made with that of Mary Lyth above. A similar numerical identification to that used in the Harrison story will be adopted, and where conjecture comes to be made, it will be pointed out as and when necessary. This conjecture is not to be taken as synonymous with wishlul thinking, an easy and most likely inacurate procedure, making arduous research a useless folly.
It cannot be proved that Mary's husband is the Ambrose the carpenter in the 1735 Whitby list without more information. The marriage has not yet come to light.
1. | Richard | b. | m. | living Greenhouses 1762 | d. |
A Richard whose wife was Mary died at Whitby in 1796 but cannot be identified with Richard 1. | |||||
2. | Ellen | b. | m. John Harrison 2/12/1740 Ug. | lived Greenhouses | d. |
The children of this marriage are listed 71 to78 in the Harrison story. | |||||
3. | William | b. | m. Ann Booth 7/1/1741 Ug. | lived Dunsley | d. |
4. | John | b. | m. Mary Ward 28/5/1741 Ug. | d. | |
5. | Thomas | b. | m. | d. | |
A Thomas married Sarah Campion 30/5/1742 Eg. | |||||
Ambrose | b. | m. Susannah M'all 27/12/1739 Ly. | |||
6. | As an Ambrose w Elizabeth had four chn. on the E.R.R. 1753 and that Fr. Hervey showed a move to Howe House Egton by the same family it is wiser to place this one child 6, rather than the one who married Susannah, hence the alteration. | ||||
7. | Mary | b. | m. Wm. Frankland | ||
8. | Catherine | b. | |||
9. | Susannah | b. | m. John Road |
Susannah w. of Richard Lyth of S(andsend) shoemaker, aged 76 March 23rd 1793
shows she was born in 1717 and could well be the recusant listed with Richard Lyth in the L.R.R.1780 and whose children by which time would be adults.This conjecture gives Richard 1's wife a christian name. The other persons in the will are too confusing to include.
Fr. Hervey's records, ending when he was arrested, only tell us of a few of the chiIdren of the parents above-menytioned. The names of the baptismal godparents are quite helpful. Underlined identity numbers indicate conjecture.
11,12, Etc. | None of these children, if any, have been identified belonging to Richard 1 | |||
21 to 26 | inclusive are known. See 2 above. | |||
31. | Thomas | b. 27/2/1743 | m. | G'parents Thos. Lyth and Dorothy Stephenson. |
No more children of this marriage have been found. | ||||
41. | John | b. 8/4/1742 | m. | G'parents Fr. Hervey and Jane Ward |
42. | Mary | b. 27/2/1744 | m. | G'parents Thos. Hodgson and Hannah Harland Moorside |
No further known children | ||||
51. Etc., | No known chlidren. | |||
6l. | William | b. 24/12/1754 | m. | G'parents Robt. Stephenson Helen Pierceson. |
62. | Mary | b. 13/1/1737 | m. | G'parents Geo. Nellis Mary Harrison G'houses |
Ambrose Lyth R.C. How House 4/6/1835 aged 92.
This makes him born 1743 and therefore 65 will do for his number. 63 and 64 and 66 etc are not discovered, nor are any offspring of 7, 8 or 9.
At this point it may be well to say that there are many Lyths who could fit into the empty spaces above but there is no evidence as to which family or even non-recusant ones. Their names are in the mairiges contracted in the surrounding parish churches, necessary by law after 1753. There seems to be a growing recusant practice about this time of parties being married in parishes other than their own, banns being entered elsewhere. Sometimes one takes place "by licence" An instance of this concerns one of these "orphan Lyths" once more a Richard, banns for whose marriage to -believe it or not- Susannah Stonehouse were entered at Skelton on July 25th 1763.
On July 3Oth 1833 died Jane Lyth, R.C. aged 32 and nine years earler, also at Egton died John Lyth on March 6th 1824 R.C. as well. John was ninety and was from Egton Village, Jane from East-end, that part of the village adjoining the road to Lamplands and Aislaby.
Anna | D 1. | born 1768 | married Geoge Barker |
William | D 2. | born 1770 | married Elizabeth Mead (sister of Esther previously mentioned) at 3Danby on August 10th 1795 |
Mary | D 21. | born 1816 | is the only child to be traced from this first marriage |
married | 2nd cousins | 621X | ||||||
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William Lyth | m. | Mary Harrison (1st. c.) | John Harrison 621 | m. | Margaret Child | |||
Jos. Harrison 61 | Wm. Harrison 62 | |||||||
m. | Wm. Harrison 6 |
Peter | born June 29th 1808 | Godparents Thomas Lyth and Hannah Lawson |
Mary | born December23rd 1810 | Godparents John Lawson and Ann White |
Matthew | born February 24th 1813 | Godparents Leonard Jordan and Hannah Lawson |
Hannah | born October 24th 1815 | Godparents Richard Lyth and Ann Lyth |
Esther | born July 19th 1817 | Godparents John Swales and Elizabeth Lyth |
Elizabeth | born November 16th 1820 | Godparents Matthew Liddle and Dorothy Harrison |
Ann | born December 28th 1823 | Godparents Thomas Leng and Hanna Bowmaker |
Elizabeth | born July 8th 1826 | Godparents Anthony Lawson and Ann Robinson |
John | born November 17th 1827 | Godparents Richard Lyth and Ann Harrison |
Ann | born November 17th 1827 | Godparents Brown Thomas and Hanna Bowmaker |
Alice | born May 13th 1837 | Godparents Thomas Fletcher and Hannah Lyth(aunt) |
Richard | born September 9th 1838 | Godparents Daniel Ibbotson and Margaret Wrestle |
John Lyth m. Elizabeth Duck May 11th 1656 at Lythe
Mary daughter of Richard Lyth died at Cockernuke on May 28th 1705
John Lyth died at Cockernuke on August 8th 1711
Widow Mary Lyth died at Cockernuke in 1762 leaving among others 3. William and 6. Ambrose
3 William m. Ann Booth at Shorefoot in 1788 | 6. Ambrose m. Elizabeth ? at Cockernuke till 1753 - 4 children E.R.R. 1753 | |
32 Richard b. 1744 - m. Eliz. Hutchinson at Egton April 24th 1804 | 31 Thomas b. 1743 - m. Mary Cornforth at Danby March 31st 1768. - lived Westonby 6 chn. E.R.R. 1780 | 65 Ambrose b. 1743 at Howe House - m. Mary Welford at Egton Feb. 4th 1783. No children known. Ambrose remained at Howe House until his death on June 4th 1835. |
323 Richard b. 1778 - m. Esther Mead at Egton April 24th 1804 | 312 William b. 1770 - m. Elizabeth Mead at Danby Aug. 10th 1795. Only one child of this marriage is known. | |
3236 Richard b. 1817 - m. Hannah Readman at Egton Bridge Chapel May 4th 1844 | 3128 Mary b. 1816 - m. 6214 Charles Harrison May 28th 1842 | |
All the above Richards died at shorefoot in 1826, 1863, and 1881 respectively. | William married a second time Mary Harrison Oct. 21st 1823 and a child of this marriage 3129 William b. Aug 21st 1826 m. Elizabeth Harrison 621X on Nov. 13th 1844. |
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