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Just some stuff that I've written relating to Nikon equipment and photography in general..


To:               nikon@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject:          Re: AF-D 50/1.8 or 50/1.4 ?
Send reply to:    yuenkitmun@oocities.com
Date sent:        Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:47:08 +0800

>now the 1.4 is nice but the lens test i've seen show that the 1.8 is
>sharper. is the difference in dim light photography between 1.4 and
>1.8 so critical

For me, yes. The f1.8 is theoretically 2/3 of a stop slower than the 
f1.4 but practically, it's as good as 1 full stop slower. I find 
myself shooting at double the shutter speed when using a f1.4 instead 
of a f1.8 (assuming correct exposure is 1/4 second at f1.8, then 1/8 
seconds at f1.4 gives you 1/3 stops under exposure, no big deal for 
print film). I also find myself shooting at the same shutter speed 
for f1.8 and f2. 

Depending on what film you use and under what conditions you shoot, 
one stop can make a big difference. I use ISO 400 and shoot handheld, 
mainly indoors with some street photography at night. Under these 
conditions and f1.4, I sometimes have to go as low as 1/4 (definitely 
blurred, but better than nothing) or 1/8 seconds (blurred but maybe 
okay). Though most of the time I can squeak by with at least 1/15 
seconds (slightly blurred, but okay) and 1/30 seconds (whoopee! but 
I don't enlarge much, mainly 4" x 6" so my standards aren't high). 

For me, the limiting factor in the sharpness of my photographs is not 
the lens sharpness, but camera shake. No matter how much sharper the 
f1.8 might be, I get sharper photos with the f1.4 due to the slow 
shutter speeds that I'm forced to use. Anyway, I've read conflicting 
reports about the f1.8 versus the f1.4 and most agree that the 
difference is slight anyway.  

Of course, if you use a tripod then camera shake is less of a 
problem. But then you could use a slow zoom too. 

Recommendation - get the f1.4. 


To:               nikon@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject:          Re: Fastest lens
Send reply to:    yuenkitmun@oocities.com
Date sent:        Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:13:24 +0800

>>Nope. f0.7 is the theoretical limit of optical system. The Zeiss 
>>lens you are referring to is actually about 14 stops faster than 
>>that.

>Why is there any theoretical limit of optical systems? I can see 
>where there might be lots of reasons for practical limits, but why a
>theoretical limit?

Theory? Time to pull out my trusty "Applied Photographic Optics" 
Second Edition, by Sidney F. Ray (Focal Press)!

Okay, Chapter 27 Large-aperture lenses:

"From equation 14.33 it has been shown that the maximum theoretical 
aperture of an aplanatic lens on-axis, assuming no transmission 
losses, is f/0.5. This is three stops 'faster' than the commonly 
attainable f/1.4. Values of around f/1 are available for some lenses, 
f/0.7 is possible, and a very few lenses have achieved values closer 
to f/0.5."

And equation 14.33 in Chapter 14 is E = (T * L) / (4 * N * N)

Where 
E = illuminance
T = transmittance
L = luminance
N = relative aperture

"Therefore, for a lens with unit transmittance, the maximum possible 
value of the aperture will be an f-number of 0.5 so that E = L. 
Values close to f/0.5 have been achieved in some lenses."

I don't understand any of this :) but just to show that there is a 
theoretical limit. Mr Ray's book has more details on the 
derivation of the formula if anyone is interested. 


To:               nikon@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject:          Re: AF Nikon D 50mm F1.4/F1.8
Send reply to:    yuenkitmun@oocities.com
Date sent:        Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:28:44 +0800

>Although I have a 50mm F1.8 AI lens, I have also considered buying 
>the AF Nikon D F1.4 or F1.8 for low light photography, to be used 
>with the F70 (N70). But under these conditions would the autofocus 
>still function properly or will it "hunt". Which means that one 
>would still have to focus manually or lock focus on another subject 
>at approximately similar distance.  This  will defeat the object of
>autofocus ( or fast focussing) .  If my deductions are correct, 
>would one not be better off using the manual focus 50mm lens?

Mininum light level required for auto focus
==============================================
I tried the 50mm f1.4 AF on my F801s and the auto focusing light 
threshold seems to be 1 second at f1.4 at ISO 100 (focusing on some 
books in my room, with the only light source being a 11 watt 
fluorescent lamp. The books were in shadow). Under these conditions, 
the auto focus still worked well. 

Trying to focus on a darker pile of books (2 seconds at f1.4 at ISO 
100) and the auto focus motor refused to move. The figures might be 
different for the F70, but shouldn't be too far out. 

So, depending on what you actually shoot, I would think that you 
wouldn't have much problems using the lens under auto focus for most 
hand-held available light situations. 

Manual focusing "feel"
=========================
When used for manual focusing, the 50mm f1.4 AF's focusing wheel 
turns nicely. Not too loose like the 85mm f1.8 AF, not too springy 
like the 180mm f2.8 AF. More solid, like the 20mm f2.8 AF. All in all 
a good lens to use. 

35mm f1.4 recommended
==========================
But since we're on the topic, I'd actually recommend the 35mm f1.4 . 
I've seen mention of an AF version somewhere but most lens lists 
don't mention it (brightest 35mm AF listed is an f2). I've 
got an AI version (not even AIS - it has the multi-coloured aperture 
numbers) and is my most often used lens. I find the 50mm too narrow 
for general scene coverage and too wide for close ups of people. 

35mm also should give more camera shake immunity than a 50mm at the 
same shutter speed, due to the lower magnification - the poor man's 
58mm f1.2 Nocturnal! Not that it's all that cheap - I bought mine 
second hand and it cost slightly more than a new 50mm f1.4 AF 
(ouch!). 

Available light nut
======================
I'm a real available light nut, haven't used a flash in over a year. 
Every day, I pack my bag with a 20mm f2.8, 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.8, ISO 
400 and an FM2, hoping to get grab shots of the people and places 
around me in my every day life (latest project is getting pictures 
of the haze here in Singapore due to smoke from forest fires in 
Indonesia). I find that this set up suits me well, covering most 
situations. 

Hope this helps. Sorry about the long post but I do like to blab 
about myself!


To:               nikon@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject:          FE10, FM10 versus FM2
Send reply to:    yuenkitmun@oocities.com
Date sent:        Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:55:46 +0800

>The new nikon FE10 is very tempting (solid, cheap and good quality).
>Has somebody tried it ? What type of lenses (MF, AF, AF-D) would you
>recommend to buy ?

I haven't tried the FE10 but I had an FM10 for about a year. The FE10 
looks like an electronic version of the FM10, as (roughly speaking) 
the FE2 is an electronic version of the FM2. So I thought that my 
observations on the FM10 might be relevant. It should at least give 
an idea of some possible weaknesses to check out in the FE10. 

I wouldn't agree that the FE10 is "solid" if it is anything like the 
FM10. I finally gave mine to my sister to use (she likes it and 
takes maybe 4 rolls of file a year so she won't be stressing it too 
much) and got an FM2 because I was worried that it would break on me 
just when I needed it most. I wrote a rather glowing review of the 
FM10 on this digest last year. I'm taking that back! 

I'm comparing the FM10 with the FM2. But the FE10 is closer to the 
FE2 in features (auto exposure). Unfortunately Nikon doesn't make the 
FE2 anymore so they're difficult to get. If you are as worried about 
the build quaility of the FE10 as much as I am about the FM10's, you 
might want to consider the FM2 even though it doesn't have auto 
exposure.  

Likes / Dislikes
------------------
I like the FM10 for the low price, low weight, low frills, low 
battery consumption.

But I don't like the low body strength. The depth of field preview
lever has cracked and fallen off and there's a 2 mm dent near the 
film advance lever. The dent just appeared, I don't remember banging 
the body. I've given my F801s similar abuse for over five years and 
the paint is scratched, but no dents. 

Good photos with cheap cameras
------------------------------
Like someone has already mentioned, you can take good photographs with
the FM10. I would think indistinguishable from those taken with an F5
(if you have the time, and you understand metering). As many people on
this list have pointed out, "it's the glass that matters".  

The FM10 is basically a low cost FM2. Nothing wrong with that. I don't
think it's meaningful to compare the FM10 to any of the autofocus
bodies. I prefered using the FM10 to my F801s. Not because the FM10 
is in any objective way "better" than the F801s but because of my
shooting style.

The main question then is "FM2 or FM10?".

Durability
-----------
The FM2 is much more durable than the FM10. This is the FM10's main
disadvantage. 

It's not the plastic per se. The plastic rear and bottom of my 801s is
much tougher than the FM10's light and brittle looking plastic. It's
possible to build strong plastic cameras. The FM10 is not one of them.

Cost
-----------
The FM10 can be as little as 1/2 the price of an FM2 (if you can
persuade the shop to sell you the body only. Difficult - as the
35-70 MF zoom is bundled together with the body by Nikon, not
the shop - but not impossible). 

This is the FM10's main advantage.

Weight
-----------
The FM10 is much lighter than the FM2, but the FM2 isn't all that 
heavy anyway. 

Features
-----------
FM2's shutter goes up to 1/4000, FM 10's is 1/2000. Not that much of a
difference for my kind of shooting.

External motor drive possible for FM2, not for FM10. Again, no
difference for my kind of shooting.

Shutter and aperture are displayed in the FM2 viewfinder, not in the 
FM10. Nice to have, but not that important to me. 

The FM2 does have significant advantages with regard to :
- Less vibration when the shutter is released.
- Film back lock - you turn a collar *and* pull up the rewind crank.
  to open the FM2. The FM10 will open (exposing your film if you 
  haven't rewound yet) if you accidentally snag the rewind crank on 
  something and pull it up. 
- Less easy to accidentally trigger multi exposure switch. On the  
  FM10, push the spring loaded multi exposure lever forward and  
  multi exposure is set, even if you let the lever fall back. On the 
  FM2, multi exposure works only if you push the lever *and* crank 
  the film at the same time - much less easier to trigger  
  accidentally. I've accidentally triggered the multi exposure on 
  my FM10 at least three times and therefore lost 6 shots. 
- More centre-weighted exposure meter i.e. closer to spot than the
  FM10. There are no figures in the FM10 manual (the FM2 manual says
  60 percent exposure weightage within the outer viewfinder circle)
  but I find the FM10 meter less sensitive to exposure variations 
  when I move the camera around to meter on different areas of a 
  scene - it averages out the light more than the FM2. 

Looks
-----------
FM2 looks like a classic metal machine, FM10 looks like a newer but
cheaper plastic camera. I guess looks aren't always deceiving.

Actually I prefer the FM10's looks because I'm a reverse snob.
I'm disturbed by people who judge me by the equipment that I
carry (just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't
judging me :) ). I either tape up or scratch off the "Nikon" name on 
my camera bodies (also to prove to myself that I use Nikon for the 
right reasons). Someone once picked up my 20mm f2.8 and just because 
he saw "Nikon" on the lens, immediately said "This is a good lens!" . 
So I started taping up my lenses too. 

Autofocus versus mechanical
-----------------------------
I thought that carrying around a mechanical camera would tell
everyone "Wow - my camera is so stupid that I must be really
smart!". Doesn't seem to work though, sigh. Never mind, I like
using mechanical cameras for other reasons too 
- simplicity (how often have you had to check your autofocus manual?)
- controllability (want to leave the film leader out?, fire the
  shutter when the camera back is open?)
- reliability
- low noise
- low battery consumption (only for the light meter) 

Bottomline
-------------
If you're careful with things you might find the FM10 a good
camera. If you're a klutz like me, you'd be better off paying
double for the FM2.


To:               SING/nikon@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject:          Re: 500 f8 mirror lens
Date sent:        Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:43:42 GMT+0800

Just my thoughts on the 500 f8 mirror that has been discussed 
recently : 

(a) I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but the out of focus
    background has hard edges, not soft like "normal" lenses
    (probably the same problem that causes doughnut highlights). 
    The effect can be a bit unsettling. This can be seen 
    through the viewfinder so you can check it in the shop and 
    see if you can live with it. Even at f8, 500 mm gives you 
    very little depth of field so most shots would have an out 
    of focus background. 

(b) The size and weight can't be beat. Hand holding with ISO 400
    film is no problem (sunny 16 rule gives 1/400 sec at f16 or 
    1/1600 sec at f8 for bright sunlight, ISO 100 gives you 1/100 sec
    and 1/400 sec). The barrel is wider than normal but that doesn't 
    seem to attract as much attention on the street as a long lens - 
    good for candid photography. You can get close-ups of people 20 to 
    40 meters away. At that distance they'll probably think you're 
    taking an overall scene shot, not concentrating on them, that is
    if they notice you at all. 

(c) Focusing is smooth, making it possible to follow-focus manually. 
    The small depth of field caused by the long focal length causes
    the image in the viewfinder to "pop" into focus, making in-focus
    determination simple. The focusing barrel revolves more than 
    360 degrees (!) but this doesn't cause any handling problems. 
    Viewfinder image is a bit dim but acceptable. 

(d) Sorry, don't know much about resolution - I don't enlarge
    much. 

(e) Considering the price and the focal length, it is good value
    despite the hard-edged out of focus backgrounds. Recommended 
    if you want to explore the longer focal lengths on a budget. 
    Unless you're a pro, you'd probably leave the heavier 
    conventional lenses at home most of the time, anyway. 


To: SING/nikon@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Safe to buy used F3 ?
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:48:01 GMT+0800


>Is it safe to buy a used Nikon F3?  I mean, is it really a sturdy
>camera that can give you a couple more years of service even if
>somebody has used it, say, for about 2 to 3 years?  I am planning to
>buy one and any advice from the "experts" would come a long way.
>Thanks.

Hi Terence.

I've heard from a few different sources that Nikon has officially
stated that the F series cameras (F, F2, F3, F4, F5, F15) are designed
to be used for 150,000 exposures. Whereas the other bodies are
designed for 50,000. I don't know where to look up these figures so if
I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

So, if the F3 has been used for 100,000 exposures, then you should get
as much mileage out of it as with a new non F camera! Well, at least
in theory :)

What are the chances of the F3 being used for 100,000 exposures?
100,000 / (365 X 3) = 91. Which means that if the original owner
shot off 91 exposures (about 3 rolls of film) a day for three years,
then he would have shot off a total of 100,000 exposures.

You'll have to guess for yourself whether or not the original owner
used the F3 more or less than this threshold figure. If he or she was
a pro, then the figure is not impossible (even if you allow for only
20 working days per month). If an amateur (like me!), then almost
certainly not.

This is just an estimate. Nikon probably has a safety margin on top of
the stated figures so the camera should last longer than that. But you
also have to account for someone playing with his camera and just
shooting without film, for practice or for fun. I know through
personal experience that the F-801s motor drive makes a nice sound


To: SING/nikon@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re : Nikon w/ Hasselblad
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:57:24 GMT+0800

>From Jack 
>Date Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:02:56 -0400
>Subject: Nikon w/ Hasselblad
>
>Hi everybody,
>
>I saw an ad in B&H price list, that is lens adapters from a
>Hasselblad to a Nikon. I really want to find out any comments on this
>& what do you guy think. I have several Hasselblad CF lenses. Are
>there any dangers to my Nikon N70 & FM2 body & the Hasselblad lens or
>and difference with the picture quality.

Sorry, this response it to quite an old posting but anyway ...

I don't have any practical experience on this, but have read some
theory. This is an excerpt from Sidney F. Ray's Applied Photographic
Optics, Second Edition, page 135 (which I bought after reading some
postings in the Nikon Digest regarding light fall off in wide angle
lenses, a poster recommended reading up on optics and it seemed like
a good idea to find out why we were paying so much for Nikon optics) :


    "The typical minimum performance to be expected from a 50 mm f/2
standard lens for the 24 x 36 mm format is 40 lp / mm on-axis at f/2,
doubling to 80 lp / mm or greater at optimum aperture. Many lenses do
better than this, but the eveness of performance across the format
varies, often deliberately as part of aberration correction of a lens.
    "For large formats such as 4 X 5 inches, the useful RP of the lens
need only be some 5 to 10 lp / mm for normal purposes, with 20 lp / mm
as an upper limit. Image contrast is maximized for the 5-10 lp / mm
region."

     Which looks like to mean that for larger format cameras (including
medium format Hasselblad, smaller than the 4 X 5 mentioned above), the lens
maker's have a lower criteria for lens resolution, since the negative
will have to be enlarged less to give the same sized print (compared
to a 35 mm format negative). The larger formats will however still
have an advantage over 35 mm film in terms of film grain size.
     If Hasselblad follows this lower criteria for its medium format
lenses, you would end up with overall lower resolution when mounting a
Hasselblad lens on a Nikon 35 mm body. You'd be better off with a
Nikon lens on a Nikon body, or a Hasselblad lens on a Hasselblad
body.
     This is theory. It would be nice to hear from someone with
practical experience on this matter.
     All of which brings me to hope that if I use low grain film
(e.g. Ektar 25) on my Nikon (with a prime lens at optimum aperture) I
might get the same if not better image quality than with a medium format
camera using "normal" film (e.g. ISO 100). Medium format lenses do
seem to be slower than 35 mm lenses in general (fastest medium format
I've seen is f2.8 compared with f1.4 to f2.0 for 35 mm), so it's not
that big a disadvantage using slower high grain film on a 35 mm
with a prime lens.
     Comments please!


To:               SING/nikon@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject:          Re : why Nikon sells FM-10 (speculation)
Date sent:        Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:08:31 GMT+0800

>From "Walter Lee" 
>Date Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:45:19 +0800
>Subject: FM10
>
>FM10 is also available in Hong Kong. However, the sales figure is
>bad.

I don't know the total sales figures here in Singapore, but the 
shop from which I bought mine did say that they were selling well (I
know what you're thinking, nope, he only said that a few days *after*
I bought mine). 

>I think the majority of Nikon buyers in Hong Kong are either (a)
>serious amatuers who buy FM2, F90X, F4 or F5 (or F-70 for those who
>don't have money), or (b) holiday photographers (who take photos once
>or twice a year) who will buy F50 only. I don't know why Nikon sells
>FM10.

I'm not sure why either, but I'm glad they do! I decided to get a
second body after five years with my F-801s. Main reason was to be
able to shoot two different film types. I'm hooked on ISO 400 (with an
f 1.4 lens, I can shoot indoors without flash), and my cousin always
teases me about enlargement quality (he uses ISO 100). So I thought
fine, I'll get another body and load Ektar 25 in one and Fuji 400 in
the other, using the Ektar 25 outdoors and the Fuji 400 indoors. 

I did consider the F-50 but was persuaded by the sales rep to 
consider the FM-10, as a fully mechanical body would be better
as a second body (for reliability, backing up the first body, 
since I already had the all singing and dancing auto everything
F-801s). The FM-2 would be great, but twice the price. I decided to
get the FM-10 and save my money for lenses. 

I was so set on saving money that I didn't even look at the FM-2, hold
it in my hand. I thought, what the hell, any Nikon body can't be bad.
It was only after buying it that I found out that the FM-10 is made by 
Cosina! Too late! I find the FM-10 a bit flimsy but it still works well. 

The FM-10 is a good, cheap, alternative to the FM-2 for people looking 
for an all mechanical Nikon. I started using SLRs ten years ago, with 
an all mechanical Yashica FX3. Nikon was way out of my budget then. But 
if the FM-10 were available then, I might have gotten that instead of 
the FX3. 

So I guess that's one market segment that the FM-10 is suitable for -
serious amateurs who can't afford the FM-2 (e.g. students, and me!). 

The FM-10 really isn't that bad a camera. Like I explain in Nikon
Digest Volume 01#527  (Tuesday, 13 August 1996), I've ended up 
using the FM-10 more often that my F-801s (no slight on the F-801s 
intended). 

I've only had my FM-10 for a few months, and have worries as to
it's robustness. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
had an FM-10 for a few years and has bashed it around a bit. 


To:               SING/nikon@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Subject:          Buying FM10 or FM2
Date sent:        Mon, 12 Aug 1996 19:45:37 GMT+0800

Wow! At last! Discussion on the FM-10!

I've been despairing to hear some opinions about the FM-10 since it's
not available in many countries, but the last few issues of Nikon
Digest have certainly made up for it. 

Unfortunately, I have to agree with most of you that the FM-10 does
have many drawbacks, but it is not without appeal. I have a love-hate
relationship with mine. I've had it for about five months now, and
must have taken 30 to 50 rolls of film with it (I don't normally burn
film that quickly, just got back from a rare overseas holiday).
Sharpness seems okay (I mean film plane allignment with the lens), and
the exposure too but I'm not too good at judging this. Anyway, I shoot
mostly ISO 400 print film. 

Depth of field Preview and multi-exposure
--------------------------------------------
I don't have access to "pop photo p.18 march 1996" mentioned by Joe
Foley, but both of these features do exist on my version of the FM-10.
Could there be more than one version of the FM-10 (I got mine in
Singapore)? Hmmm ... Anyway, I don't use these features much. 

Gripes
---------
Dinky build. The FM-10 does feel a bit like a toy. The shutter speed
dial has some "give" when turning, making the action seem a bit
unathoritative. Works fine though, just doesn't feel "right". Film
rewind lever also looks a bit flimsy, but few problems so far. The
rewind lever does tend to flip open and get in the way though. No
serious mishaps yet. Even the triangular metal bands that connect
the neck strap to the body mount seem too weak and bend easily. I'm
thinking of replacing mine. Sigh.

More serious is that the rear of tbe body deforms quite easily,
especially when you've got a heavy telephoto lens attached. I mean if
you're just holding the camera, not taking a shot, so your left hand
is free and you've only got a right hand grip on the body, fingers in
front, thumb on the back. Well, I can feel the back deform under my
thumb when I turn the body from lens vertical (pointing down) to
horizontal (lens pointing forward). Don't have this problem with my
F-801s. So now I have to modify my holding style and bring my left
hand over to hold the lens barrel, much earlier that I used to and use
that to help turn the camera (say, maybe this is a better procedure
for all bodies, less strain all around!). 

Overly rubberized. Rubber doesn't do to well when mixed with oil.
Unfortunately, the entire rear of the FM-10 is rubberized, including
the part that touches my nose. I guess I must have pretty oily skin
because I've just found out that I've worn away the rubber at the
exact point that touches my nose (no, I'm not making this up). A strip
of black tape is now protecting that portion, hardly noticeable as the
rubber is black too. The rest of the rubber does help wonderfully with
grip, though. 

Likes
-----------
Light weight. I try to carry a camera body with me every day, every
where I go, just in case I come across something (or someone) to
photograph. Carrying my F-801s was a big pain and trying hand-held
available-light shots (my favourite) was no fun either. The FM-10 is
extremely light. I don't have much experience with the FM-2 but I
think the FM-10 should be significantly lighter (perhaps less so
against the FM-2T Titanium version, but that's a whole other budget
range). Weight doesn't matter so much with some lenses, but with
something like the 50 mm f1.4 and 135 mm f2, you've already got more
weight than you need. 

Good grip. The FM-10 has a rubberized coating on the front and back,
and a little bit that sticks out at the front right hand side - really
nice to grip on to with your right hand. Again, I haven't held a FM-2
before but I don't see no rubber on it, and no right hand grip either.

Silent. Again, I don't have experience with the other non-motorized
Nikons, but the FM-10 is wonderfully silent compared to the F-801s.
Great for taking candid shots indoors. 

Psuedo mirror-lockup. When the self-timer is used, there's a
noticeable delay between when the mirror goes up and the shutter
exposes the film. Great way to reduce mirror vibration for long
exposures. My much more expensive F-801s doesn't do this on self
timer! FM-2 should be similar to the FM-10 in this respect (can anyone
confirm this?). 

Reverse snobbery. I just love telling people who ask me what camera I
have, that I've got the cheapest Nikon body available. The FM-10 looks
cheap too! Nobody will ever mistake you for a camera snob. 

Conclusion
-------------------
I'm using the FM-10 for over 90% of the time now, bringing out the
F-801s only when I need TTL flash, spot metering, and quick reaction
(auto focus, auto exposure). The FM-10 was supposed to have been my
backup body, now it has taken over! 

So for my particular needs at least, I prefer it over the F-801s
(which I was using on metered manual most of the time anyway, much
easier to set the exposure without playing with exposure lock and
compensation - me no trust no matrix metering unless me don't have 
no time to meter myself). 

But FM-2 or FM-10? Well, despite my fond feelings for the FM-10, the
build quality does worry me. Last five to ten years? Good chance.
Something to hand down to my kids? Probably not. But I do like the
light weight and the grip as compared to the FM-2. So ... it does come
down to a question of personal preferences and priorities, not to
mention budget. 

One last note. The FM-10 normally comes bundled together with a manual
focus 35-70 zoom (pretty unheard of for a Nikon body, now you know
what kind of market Nikon is targetting with the FM-10). If you
already have equivalent lenses, this can be a waste of money. Most
shops here in Singapore aren't willing to sell the body only, making
the FM-10 about 2/3 to 3/4 the price of an FM-2 (body only) instead of
1/2, but a few shops are willing. If you don't need the zoom, shop
around for someone who will sell the body only - might be difficult,
but not impossible. 
  

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