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DrRonsfastback
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1965 Mustang 5.0 EFI conversion


Registered: April 2002
Location: Las Vegas, NV

Question Who has used ModernDriveline's clutch cable conversion???

I am just about to order the clutch cable conversion kit for my T5 and want to know if anybody here has used it? It is going into my '65 fastback.


Thanks,
Ron

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1965 Coupe: A-code; ready for paint and interior, 5.0 carb version.
1965 Coupe: A-code; A/C, P/S, P/DB, console, 289
1965 Fastback: 5.0 EFI/T5; 8" rear, P/S, P/DB, '97 Cobra black leather seats, sound system
1965 Fastback: ready for V8 conversion for my 14 year-old.
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2002 Excursion: Limited

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TurboDoctor
Super Stanger

66 Gt Fastback, 62 Impala SS, 62 Vw


Registered: January 2002
Location: San Marcos, Texas(Austin)

I never used that company's systme but when I fisrt did my T-5 swap a Built my own cable system using a BBK ajustable quadrant and cable. I wish I never would have switch to the Z-bar.

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blkstlln
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1965 Mustang Fastback


Registered: December 2001
Location: Federal way wa

cable clutch

Ron,
Just installed their cable clutch last week..Relatively straightforward install EXCEPT the headers!! I had hedman long tubes which would not work as the cable could not make a straight run to the bell housing with the tube interference,,,then tried tri Y's same problem, then JBA's..they hit the towers and steering gear, after a week of screwing around, found hedman shortys finally worked...In the end the system is awesome,,I actuall used their 450HP kit with the kevlar clutch..extremely smooth...
blkstlln

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theorama2000
Super Stallion

1965 mustang 2+2


Registered: January 2002
Location: orange county ca

whats the best way to go with the clutch linkage if converting a auto to t5, with stock manifolds, but im gonna get headers in a couple months?

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blkstlln
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1965 Mustang Fastback


Registered: December 2001
Location: Federal way wa

theorama2000,
Not sure of the question nor to whom it is directed. I went from an auto to the t-5..If using stock manifolds, there should be no problem...oh yeah dont foreget the trans mount must be modified, whether you use the stock c-4 mount or modern's replacement.
blkstlln

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one2gamble
Stallion

1966 Ford Mustang//& a 1 owner 65


Registered: February 2001
Location: Monterey

ok, my question is, are there any long tubes that will work with anyones cable clutch conversion??

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blkstlln
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1965 Mustang Fastback


Registered: December 2001
Location: Federal way wa

O2G,
I didnt find any in my week of searching/trying to find ones that would work with the cable..the hedman shorty's are equal length and drop almost to the floor pan.... Modern driveline says if you have long tubes to cut and reposition the offending tubes ??? I wasn't going there!
blkstlln

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theorama2000
Super Stallion

1965 mustang 2+2


Registered: January 2002
Location: orange county ca

how do long tube headers generally fit with the stock clutch linkage?

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TurboDoctor
Super Stanger

66 Gt Fastback, 62 Impala SS, 62 Vw


Registered: January 2002
Location: San Marcos, Texas(Austin)

I went to long tubes and the cleared the Z-bar style linkage with minor modifications on my car. I cut the lower bar that droped down from the frame to engine tube and left it off until I had the headers in. Then with the headers on I just just scooted it over a little bit so it did not hit on the tubes. Re welded it and it worked good. I also had to make a new mounting peg on the lower bar where the clutch rod bolted on the z bar. I just used a 3/8 shoulder bolt and tapped the shouldered and redrilled a bgger hole in the z bar. i used a rod end from end from Summit. And It all works great

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66 BLAKE 96
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Ignore this post


Registered: February 2001
Location: Cowtown

Swapper

Due to the insufficiencies of the search feature, namely the 5 character minimum requirement, there are many useful swap threads that are difficult to dig up.

Because of this, any useful swap threads I find (EFI, T-5, AOD, Granada disc brakes, etc...) I will add a new post containing the word " swapper ".
I ask that you guys do the same thing so we can keep these cool threads a search away.
This goes for any new threads that pertain to this also.

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2nd Mustang
Super Stallion

67 Mustang Coupe


Registered: February 2002
Location: Southern California

quote:
Originally posted by theorama2000
how do long tube headers generally fit with the stock clutch linkage?


See my other post. I just replaced my Z-bar and both clutch pedal to Z-bar and Z-bar to clutch release arm rods. Due to the long tube headers, to take out the frame side Z-bar mounting bracket, it took a 2 foot 3/8" extension with a "shallow" 9/16 socket with a universal adapter on the rear bolt, and a shorter extention for the front bolt. Couldn't get a box end on either bolt due to the headers, even a stubby wrench. Working on the bottom release rod, took some yoga skills to get the stubby wrenches in there. For awhile, I almost considered taking the drivers side headers out. but managed to replace everything okay. Of course this is for a 4-speed, don't know about a T5.

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DrRonsfastback
Member

1965 Mustang 5.0 EFI conversion


Registered: April 2002
Location: Las Vegas, NV

UPDATE

I originally posted this question back on 04/19/2002 and never did follow up on it.

I did eventually order the cable clutch conversion kit for my '65 and it was so easy to install that I thought that I did something wrong. I would recommend the swap to anybody with a vintage mustang that wants a 5 speed transmission.


Ron

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1965 Coupe: A-code; ready for paint and interior, 5.0 carb version.
1965 Coupe: A-code; A/C, P/S, P/DB, console, 289
1965 Fastback: 5.0 EFI/T5; 8" rear, P/S, P/DB, '97 Cobra black leather seats, sound system
1965 Fastback: ready for V8 conversion for my 14 year-old.
1997 Expedition: Eddie Bauer
2002 Excursion: Limited

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kslushy
Super Stanger

1965 Mustang Coupe, 1986 GT conv't


Registered: January 2002
Location: Honolulu, HI. current home is Loyola Marymount University, los angeles

what type of headers did you end up using?

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shelbyseven
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67 convertible


Registered: March 2002
Location: alabama

blkstlln

what part # were those hedmans?i tried flow tech equal length made for a fox body and there was no way they were going to fit(still have them -brand new).then i tried flow-tech un-equal and they wouldn't fit.i ended up with hedman un-equal length shorties ,but they are just about the same as exhaust manifolds.
i really miss the way my car sounded and ran with the tri-y's .but not enough to put the z-bar back in.a normal person can actually press the clutch in now.the cable kit works great!

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RaSMG
Senior Member

1966 Mustang Coupe


Registered: October 2002
Location: Central Cali

I'll shed some light .. Bruce Cotour, the man behind the Modern Driveline, is a genius, and a real cool guy. I felt Bruce's clutch at the Mustangs Plus October display, and it was real smooth. His clutch pedal box roller bearing is a great idea too. I went with the Ron Morris cable clutch because it came with the cross member for about $100 less than bruces but they are both high quality. As for header clearance, I originally had it installed with stock manifolds and of course it fit. When I installed the new Hooker Super Comps #6001 I think(for 64-66 289 or 302) I had a slight clearanc eproblem but just because where the belhousing wanted to point the cable, I just maneuvered things a little and it fit right in, no kinks, and I used the protection sleeve on the cable where the exhaust would get it hot. As far as I can tell, Hooker Super Comps worked on my application, but YMMV.

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ron67fb
Super Stanger

67 fastback, 86 GT


Registered: August 2001
Location: SSF, CA

Could someone explain how the cable is routed? Nobody has mentioned what bellhousing they used in the swap. What if you're using a stock bellhousing where the throwout fork has to be pushed away from the engine? This isn't a push-type cable, is it? Does it do a double-180 to pull the fork away from the engine?

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SoCalCruising
Super Stallion

1966 Mustang GT, 4-speed, A-code


Registered: July 2000
Location: SoCal

The awap requires a t-5 bellhousing or one of the steel scattershields that are compatible with the t-5. Also requires 5.0 clutch fork because it pulls, rather than pushes. With stock bell and t-5 adapter plate, use the z-bar setup.

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one2gamble
Stallion

1966 Ford Mustang//& a 1 owner 65


Registered: February 2001
Location: Monterey

so supercomps will work if we play with it?

but what are the part# for those elites, i still wanna check them out.

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