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THEREUPON:
RAYMOND DANIEL MANZAREK
was called as a witness on behalf of the defendant, and being first duly
sworn, was examined and testified on his oath as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR FINK
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Will you state your name,
please? |
Ray: |
Raymond Daniel Manzarek. |
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Are you a member of the group
known as the Doors? |
Ray: |
Yes, I am. |
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How long have you fellows
been together? |
Ray: |
About four and a half years now. |
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Q: |
When did you start to work
professionally? |
Ray: |
About four years ago. |
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Where do you live? |
Ray: |
Los Angeles, California. |
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What instrument do you play?
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Ray: |
I play the organ and the bass. |
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Are you also an author and
composer? |
Ray: |
Well, I work on the songs, Jim does most
of the writing. Robby writes some of the songs, too, but Jim is the main
poet in the group. |
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Do you recall being in Miami
performing at Dinner Key Auditorium on March lst of 1969? |
Ray: |
Yes, I do. |
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Do you recall going on stage
with your fellow members of the Doors that night? |
Ray: |
Yes, sir. |
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Do you remember the performance
that night? |
Ray: |
Somewhat. |
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How long would you say the
performance by the Doors lasted? |
Ray: |
Approximately an hour. |
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While you were on stage was
James Morrison also on stage? |
Ray: |
Yes, he was. |
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What observation did you
make of Mr. Morrison during that hour or so you were on stage with him? |
Ray: |
Well, I observed that he was at the microphone
singing and doing more or less the show we had planned and the show we usually
do. (objection, sustained.) (stricken.) |
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Did you observe him do a
show that night? |
Ray: |
Yes, I did. |
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To what extent was Mr. Morrison
within your view and observation as you were on stage? |
Ray: |
One hundred per cent of the time. I could
see him constantly. |
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And during the time that
you saw him, insofar as his pants or trousers were concerned, was he wearing
them? |
Ray: |
Yes, he was. |
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Did he ever, while you were
observing him, remove them or any part thereof? |
Ray: |
Not his pants or his trousers, certainly
not, but he did take his shirt off and I think it was a very wise idea, too.
(objection, sustained.) (answer stricken.) |
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Did you see Mr. Morrison
remove his shirt? |
Ray: |
Yes, I did. |
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What were the circumstances?
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Ray: |
The circumstances were that in an auditorium
that held comfortably 7,000 people, there appeared to be, I suppose, 12 to
15,000 people. It was very hot. The temperature on stage seemed to me to
be a hundred and twenty degrees. We were all just boiling, too many people
in the place, too crowded, too close and Jim took his shirt off. |
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Did Mr. Morrison at any time
in the course of that evening expose any private organs? (objection, sustained.)
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Did Mr. Morrison at any time
during that evening and while you were observing him expose any private organs?
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Ray: |
No, he did not, not unless you consider
his chest a private organ. (objection, overruled.) |
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I am speaking of his penis,
pubic hair. |
Ray: |
No, no, no exposure. |
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Did Mr. Morrison at any time
while you were observing him do any acts of masturbation or pretended
masturbation? (objection, sustained.) |
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I show you here Exhibit I.
That is Defendant's Exhibit I, and ask you if you remember at any time Mr.
Morrison being in that position. |
Ray: |
Mr. Morrison was in many positions. If
this was taken two seconds, taken a second later his hand would have been
somewhere else. It might have been at the top of his head. (objection,
sustained.) |
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Did Mr. Morrison move about?
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Ray: |
Constantly. |
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Can you tell us to what extent?
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Ray: |
He moved all across the stage. He came
over to the organ where I was, stood by me for a while, went by John, the
drummer, went over to Robby's side, back to the center of the stage. |
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Did he gyrate his hands,
body, arms, legs? |
Ray: |
Yes. (objection.) |
Ray: |
Jim moves about a great deal on stage.
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Q: |
Is Jim what is known as a
rock singer? |
Ray: |
Yes, he is. |
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Insofar as body movements
are concerned, how do rock singers perform? (objection, overruled.) |
Ray: |
Rock singers move about. It is the nature
of the music that makes people move. That is why we play the music, to make
people move, enjoy themselves. (objection.) |
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Is that what happened that
evening? |
Ray: |
Exactly what happened. Everybody moved
around. Everybody enjoyed themselves. |
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Did Jim move? |
Ray: |
Certainly. |
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Constantly? |
Ray: |
A large part of the time. |
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Did you ever see Jim with
his hands down in his pants moving them around in his crotch area while you
were observing him? |
Ray: |
No, not with his hands inside his pants,
no. |
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While you were observing
him, insofar as Robby Krieger is concerned, do you recall whether or not
there came a time during the performance that night ... I am speaking of
Dinner Key March 1, 1969 ... when Robby Krieger took a solo run playing the
guitar? |
Ray: |
Yes, in just about every song Robby takes
a solo. In "Light My Fire" he takes a ... (objection.) |
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In "Light My Fire" did he
take a long solo? |
Ray: |
Yes, he did. |
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At that particular time what
did Jim do? |
Ray: |
It is customary ... (objection, sustained.)
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Q: |
Have you ever been a witness
in court before? |
Ray: |
No, I haven't, first time. |
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Just tell us what Jim did
while Robby was taking his long solo. |
Ray: |
Well, Jim went over to Robby's side of
the stage because the spotlight is on Jim. If Robby is taking a solo most
spotlight workers don't know he is taking a solo and it is time to turn it
on him. (objection, comment stricken.) |
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We have to limit ourselves
to what happened this particular night of March lst of last year, not what
somebody thinks or did, but what happened. (objection, sustained.) |
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I just want to limit it so
we can avoid objections. Tell us, on this particular night at Dinner Key
Auditorium, March 1 last year, a year ago, while Robby was doing the long
solo in "Light My Fire", what did Jim do? |
Ray: |
Jim went over to Robby's side of the stage
and stood around Robby for awhile while Robby was playing to direct the attention
of the audience to Robby, and was on his knees, was standing, was moving
around Robby. |
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Did he at any time while
he was on his knees or any other time stick his tongue out and wag it up
and down? (objection, sustained.) |
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In your observation was Jim's
tongue hanging out of his mouth wagging? |
Ray: |
I didn't see his tongue out of his mouth.
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During the time while the
Doors were on stage did the audience tend to move forward, crush down toward
the stage? |
Ray: |
Yes, they did. It was very crowded and
the audience during "Light My Fire" started to surge toward the stage. Many
people came on the stage. |
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At first I take it a few
came on, is that correct? |
Ray: |
Yes. |
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Then did more come on? |
Ray: |
Yes. |
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What did you fellows do when
the people started coming on stage? |
Ray: |
Fortunately it was near the end of the
song so we just finished out the song. Our equipment man said, "You better
stop." (objection, sustained.) |
Ray: |
What did we do? |
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What did you do? You did
have an equipment man with you to set up and protect the equipment? |
Ray: |
Yes, right, who was on stage with us. |
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Where is he now? |
Ray: |
He is in Los Angeles. |
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Then what did you do? |
Ray: |
We saw there were too many people on stage
and things were starting to get a little violent. There was some fellow I
found out later was the promoter who was on stage and who was starting to
push and shove and grabbed the microphone away from Jim. We thought, it is
time to get out of here, that is enough, better not carry on the performance
anymore. |
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Did you leave? |
Ray: |
Yes, we left the stage. |
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After you left the stage
did you go to your dressing room? |
Ray: |
Yes, we did, to cool off. |
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Approximately how long did
you remain in the dressing room? |
Ray: |
We must have stayed there an hour and a
half to two hours. |
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Were other people there besides
the Doors? |
Ray: |
A large crowd of people, yes. |
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Did you see some police officers?
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Ray: |
There were a few police officers in there,
that brought in some friends, signed some autographs for a lot of people,
some people there for interviews, some friends. |
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In the meantime did the crowd
in the auditorium disperse and leave? |
Ray: |
Yes, they did. |
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Did you see any police officers
around the place? |
Ray: |
There were many police officers. There
were police officers even when we left an hour and a half or two hours later.
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And while you were in your
dressing room after the performance or in that period of time, did an officer
come up about a hat? |
Ray: |
Yes, he did. |
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Tell us what happened. |
Ray: |
Well, it seems his hat went into the audience
and he didn't get his hat back and our manager reimbursed him the expenses
on his hat plus some extra for his own trouble. |
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Was there an argument about
it or a quarrel? |
Ray: |
No, hardly, just the opposite. He took
it in a very good natured way and everyone had a big laugh about it. Since
it didn't cost him any money he was able to get his hat back through the
money we gave him, he wasn't concerned about it and we all had quite a joke
about it. (objection, overruled.) |
CROSS EXAMINATION
MR. McWILLIAMS:
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Your organ was behind Morrison,
isn't that a fact? |
Ray: |
To the right of him and about two feet,
three feet back, approximately forty-five degree angle to Jim. |
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Most of the time when he
was facing the audience you were looking at the back of Morrison? |
Ray: |
No, more to the side. |
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You weren't able to see the
front of him, were you? |
Ray: |
No. |
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That was most of the time
during the performance he was back there at that forty-five degree angle?
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Ray: |
Yes, all the time. I can't leave the organ.
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How much beer did you have
in the dressing room? |
Ray: |
I had a can or two, probably two cans of
beer. |
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How many did Robby have?
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Ray: |
Robby had ... gee, I don't know. Robby
is not much of a beer drinker. He had probably two cans. |
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John didn't have any? |
Ray: |
John had some orange juice. |
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There were two six-packs
in the dressing room, right? |
Ray: |
I suppose there were. I can't really recall
how much there was. |
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How much did you see Morrison
drink? |
Ray: |
We were on stage, Jim came late. I didn't
see him drink any beer in the dressing room. I didn't know he went into the
dressing room. |
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Did you have some of the
champagne on stage? |
Ray: |
I wish I did. I know somehow I didn't get
any. |
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You saw a bottle? |
Ray: |
I saw a bottle. Jim was holding it. Somehow
I couldn't get ahold of it. I suppose he had a drink or two out of it. Before
I could get hold of it, it seemed to be poured all over everybody. |
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You don't remember seeing
him drink out of it? |
Ray: |
No. I remember him pouring it, or if not
him, somebody pouring. Somehow I remember champagne flying all over everybody.
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You were watching a hundred
per cent of the time, isn't that a fact? |
Ray: |
No. |
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Didn't you testify you were
watching Morrison about a hundred per cent of the time, isn't that what you
said? |
Ray: |
Yes ... I don't know. Did I say that? I
will have to take that back if I said it. |
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You are changing your testimony?
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Ray: |
I have to look at the organ sometimes.
I see him most of the time. I have to watch him to get the leads, get his
cues. |
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You didn't see him a hundred
per cent of the time? |
Ray: |
No. |
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You didn't see him put his
hands inside his pants? |
Ray: |
No, I didn't. |
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But you were watching 90
per cent of the time? |
Ray: |
A good percent of the time. I have to keep
my eyes on him to find out what is going on. |
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I show you Defendant's Exhibit
E and ask you if you can recall seeing that. |
Ray: |
I saw many things, saw him move his hands
all over the place. |
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Did you see him put his hands
inside his pants all the way down to his crotch, yes or no? |
Ray: |
No, I didn't. |
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But you were watching most
of the time. How many times did you see Morrison put his hands inside his
pants? |
Ray: |
I don't think I saw him put his hands in
his pants. |
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Not once? |
Ray: |
No. |
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But you were watching most
of the time? |
Ray: |
Yes. |
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Did you see the lamb on stage?
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Ray: |
Yes, I did. |
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Did you hear Morrison say,
"If it weren't so young I would fuck it"? Did you hear that? |
Ray: |
Yes, I did. |
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Now, that particular evening
to your knowledge did Morrison have any medical problems before he went on
stage? |
Ray: |
Not to my knowledge. |
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Did he have any fungus or
any itch, medical ailment? |
Ray: |
Don't know. You will have to ask Mr. Morrison.
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You say you have been four
years with Morrison? |
Ray: |
Yes. Even more. We went to school together.
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What other occupation do
you have other than that of a professional musician? |
Ray: |
None. |
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So it is safe to say your
entire future depends on what happens in the courtroom here, isn't that a
fact? |
Ray: |
No. You are asking me what I will do with
the rest of my life. I probably won't be a musician for the rest of my life.
There will be other things. |
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When was it in the performance
you heard Morrison say, "Do you want to see my cock" ? |
Ray: |
I don't think those words were said. I
never heard that. |
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You never heard those words?
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Ray: |
No. |
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What words did you hear him
express to the audience he wanted to see some nakedness; what were the words
you heard? |
Ray: |
Jim said, "I am not talking about no
revolution. I am not talking about no demonstration, I want to see love.
I want to see you love your brother. I want to see love, love, love. I want
to see some nakedness around here," as he was taking his shirt off. "I want
to see some nakedness around here" and I would have done the same if I didn't
have to keep my hands on the organ. |
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You are telling the jury
you thought it was proper to remove your clothing on stage? |
Ray: |
Under those circumstances, certainly. |
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Was Morrison drunk that night
or was he stoned on something else? |
Ray: |
No, he didn't appear to be drunk to me.
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Q: |
His eyes didn't appear to
you glassy? |
Ray: |
He had just been on a flight from Los Angeles.
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His eyes were glassy, isn't
that a fact? |
Ray: |
His eyes were glassy? I really ... I can't
say. I don't know what glassy eyes are. |
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Isn't it a fact his timing
was off that night, that his words were behind the music, lagging? |
Ray: |
He was off his timing, sometimes behind,
sometimes ahead, sometimes right on the beat. Jim's timing is ... it varies
from performance to performance. He plays with the beat so it is really hard
to say whether his timing was off. |
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So that it is safe to say
most of the time while you were observing Morrison, you were observing him
from a forty-five degree angle and weren't able to see the front of Morrison,
is that right? |
Ray: |
Right. |
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. JOSEFSBERG:
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Did you ever see the side
of his pants go down while you were observing? |
Ray: |
No, the side stayed right where it belonged.
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Mr. Manzarek, you were asked
about your economic dependence on Mr. Morrison. Do you have any degrees?
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Ray: |
Yes, I do, Bachelor's Degree in Economics,
Master's Degree in Motion Picture, Fine Arts from UCLA. |
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During the last year and
a half have you been offered other jobs? |
Ray: |
Yes, I have. |
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Do you know if they pay more
or the same amount that you make now? |
Ray: |
They didn't really say how much they were
paying but it didn't really matter to me because I didn't want another job.
I am one of the Doors. We want to keep the Doors together so I don't care
about another job. |
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Q: |
Before when you said due
to the heat you would remove your clothing, were you referring to your shirt?
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Ray: |
Certainly, shirt and jacket. |
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Q: |
This terminology about nakedness
which you heard Mr. Morrison say, what was done physically by Mr. Morrison
after saying that? |
Ray: |
Well, he took his shirt off. Nakedness
is not nudity. He didn't say get nude, take all of your clothes off, although
if somebody in the audience had wanted to do that ... (objection,
sustained.) |
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