Ardent Trueheart

Many thanksss to those of you who answered my sssurvey... my Master wasss pleased with the response, and did not punish me too much.

I have some feed-back from the sssurvey, and a follow-up question that I would like you to answer please.

Thank you, Jade, former Captain of the Rangersss.

The end is night, followers of Takhisis!

Paladine forever!

It looks like there some gloating from the pond scum about Angmar being no-more. But I guess you take a win any way you can huh Alliance? Looks as if Hawk is running with some other guild so we probably won't all be together again. That's a shame.

I don't even leave the cave nowadays, why bother. I started knitt'in little club shaped oven mits for the little woman and as I sit there a tear wells up cause I know my little skull smashers will never know the glory of Angmar. Makes me mad, makes me sad. Its bad here in the caves .. The sky don't look the same any more.. The nights don't have the same charge to em ..

That big ass Dwarf?? the now ex-guard, well... he smacks his missus around. I hear it's bad with allot of the guys. We're all in a river of shit and nobodies got a boat.

I'm almost out of RUM and the stews about all gone. I'll miss that slop . My club is behind the stuffed bear, my axe is on the wall over the fire-place.. I keep em oiled up ready to go but it don't seem like I'll get to hear another ka-nigget beg for his life as I smash him to a pulp or that unforgettable high pitched squeal of a disembowelled hobbit... A-N-G-MARRR!!!

Makes my pulse go up just to think about it.hmm

I'm gonna go outside and do some Kata, maybe shield, never used to use it ..now ...now I wished I had.. You never miss something until its taken away, huh?

P.S. Znugaz and Ka-niggets can blow me..

Twolf ex-ANGMAR and Axe-Swinger of No Small Water.

My servants are still looking for the rest of these scrolls, and they should be available soon.

The Mouth of Sauron.

Monika T'Sarn of the Red Hand, Ferocious Captain of the Red Fang,
the Battle Hardened Gladiator of Athas, champion, female goblin

Evil guilds are a special problem. Things which are considered evil usually do not support a 'guild' structure. Evil guilds often are centered around actions against players, since only in interaction with other players 'true evil' can be found. The actions towards the 'coded' world tends to follow a rather simple rule anyway. "its just an npc" is often said when a good char is found murdering some innocent inhabitant of the world. On the other hand, why shouldnt the evil Necromancer go out and kill a few (also evil) orcs.. if he feels like it and wants to see the orcs suffering.

In real life, other than a mainly mechanic game, good or evil is more defined by the way things are done, and the goals behind them, than for the action itself. The way things are done can be caught in code, but rarely is because it takes a lot of work, the reasons behind the actions can not.

So, where is the point ?

Remove alignment. Let chars be themselves. Make the world (and only the world) react to them based on their actions. And let the players judge for themselves. Visible alignment, or guilds forcing a certain alignment are a restriction which is unnecessary. Even the most stupid player should notice that a certain char isnt 'mr nice' if the town guard comes by and carries him away to get beheaded.

Axel

Hehe

Syn

On a player-killing mud, the terms "good" and "evil" don't really mean particularly much. They're sort of an arbitrary separation of the players into teams, for purposes of PK. Some places, there are small distinctions between "good" and "evil" behavior; "good" characters don't loot corpses or don't attack newbies, or something of the sort. PK muds are far enough removed from realism that the division is reasonable. I think the alignment which predominates in the long run depends strongly upon the individual mud. I played for a while on a (now defunct) PK MUD that was very distinctly controlled by "evil" guilds, which lasted for a long time.

Muds professing to be role-playing muds shouldn't, in my opinion, have alignment systems. Real people aren't so easily categorized as good or evil, they're far more complex than that. Real people do things for their own reasons, not for the sake of serving the great cause of "good" or "evil". A person might be self-centered, or annoying, or spiteful, but they're certainly not one-dimensionally "evil". People that kill for the sake of being unpleasant exist, but they're remarkably rare. I don't believe I've ever met one. We call them mad, and most of them are locked up, in real life.

No society with a large fraction of insane murdering lunatics would ever survive, unless it was very effective at eliminating them quickly. Furthermore, the RP potential in an insane murdering lunatic is rather limitted, considering their narrow outlook on the world. Trying to quantify how nice a person is with an alignment number or rating is silly, as are guilds full of "evil" people. "I'm mean and nasty... and you are too? Let's get together so we can practice synchronized cackling!"

Alignment is fine and dandy on a PK mud, and I've got nothing against them. Cracking heads is very satisfying, once in a while. On an RP mud, people playing characters with no more depth than "good" or "evil" are fairly pathetic, and there is really no need for assigning a number to some intangible "alignment" variable.