Please note that the following does not originate from Hartland Trefoil, it is just a comparison between an early and a current release of 1825 that I have. It should address and solve a few outstanding problems with the early versions of 1825.
Was | Now | |
Denomination | (December 1995) | (January 1996) |
1 | 24 | 24 |
4 | 14 | 14 |
5 | 16 | 16 |
10 | 24 | 24 |
20 | 10 | 10 |
50 | 16 | 16 |
100 | 12 | 16 |
500 | 0 | 4 |
total | 2600 | 5000 |
Was | Now | |
Denomination | (December 1995) | (January 1996) |
10 | 32 | 32 |
40 | 12 | 12 |
50 | 12 | 20 |
100 | 12 | 0 |
200 | 12 | 4 |
total | 5000 | 2600 |
The problem was reported as that the amounts of the Player Money and the Company Credits got swopped around. It has been fixed by adding four more '100' and '500' notes to the mix of Player Cash and removing some of the Company Credits.
A way to quickly see if you have an up to date set is to check the page titled "1825 (Unit 1) Parts List" and look at the date in the bottom right hand corner, the old version was dated 12/95 while the new version is 1/96.
The old document PARTLIST.U1/1 12/95 states £2,600 (approx.) value of scrip in denominations of 1 4 5 10 20 50 and 100; £4,000 (approx.) value of Company Credits in denominations of 10 40 50 200.
The new document PARTLIST.U1/1 1/96 now reads £4,000 (approx.) value of scrip in denominations of 1 4 5 10 20 50 and 100; £2,600 (approx.) value of Company Credits in denominations of 10 40 50 200.
Please note that the Part Lists do give the totals as approximately £4,000 when in fact it comes to £5,000. This is correct, Francis' original intention was to have the total at £4,000 but has since increased it to £5,000.
On the reverse side of the new PARTLIST.U1/1 1/96 is the Tile Promotion Chart. This is in a graphical presentation and lists all the possible paths.
Tile Number | Promotes to |
1 | 14 |
2 | 15 |
55 | 14 |
56 | 15 |
3 | 12, 14, 15 |
4 | 14, 15 |
5 | 12, 14, 15 |
6 | 12, 13, 14, 15 |
7 | 26, 27 ,28 ,29 |
8 | 19, 23, 24, 25, 28, 29 |
9 | 23, 24, 26, 27 |
Tile Number | Promotes to |
12 | 38 |
13 | 38 |
14 | None |
15 | None |
19 | 45, 46 |
23 | 41, 43, 45, 47 |
24 | 42, 43, 46, 47 |
25 | 40, 45, 46 |
26 | 42, 44, 45 |
27 | 41, 44, 46 |
28 | 39, 43, 46 |
29 | 39, 43, 45 |
52 | 64, 65, 66, 67, 68 |
As for my views on 1825, I still think of it as a major failure. If treated as a direct replacement for 1829 you cannot complain because that is all it is. As a new component of the 18xx family, it fails big time for me. There are just so many daft things about it that I could think of. It suffers from linear play, no decision making, no spark, poor rules, poor components and possible lack of playtesting (as seen by last minute changes in money totals and more recently the tile mix). I did not like 1829, and 1825 has just added reasons to dislike it further.
There is talk of the Tile mix being changed but I do not have any firm details. According to Mayfair, a tile mix change is going to happen. Francis is currently working on it, hence extending the delay of copies getting to the United States
Mayfair intend to import 1825 into the States with a price tag of around $50, it was originally reported as costing $70-$75 but this has dropped.
Enough of my ranting. I hope the above is of some help to people, I apologise if it is common knowledge but I have seen the questions being asked and no one seem to be sure of the answers. If you want any further information about 1825 (like why I dislike it so much) or on the 1825 new component gamekit (or for that matter my version of the 1899/China gamekit), by all means email me at: c.r.lawson@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
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