Albert Henry Wade, John Wakeman, John Wakeman in Tasmania, Daniel Wellman, John Whinray, Walter Wooltorton
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Albert Henry Wade, John Wakeman, John Wakeman in Tasmania, Daniel Wellman, John Whinray, Walter Wooltorton,

John Wakeman One

John Wakeman 1817 - 1887 #9469 aged 70 son of Agnes Green and John Wakeman died at Carlton - no IGI record with Agnes as mother John Wakeman was in Melb 1845 with Eliza Ahern/Hearn/Heron, children Chr St Francis, Roman Catholic church Melbourne, later lived at Sandhurst, Epsom
10 Children 1. Elizabeth Wakeman 1845 #38646
2. John Wakeman 1847 #2257
3. Robert Wakeman 1849 #3871 - 1866 #12196 lived 18 years
4. Margaret Wakeman c1850 Campaspie, Victoria, died 1901 White Hills, Victoria, wed 1870 #2572 to Charles Isaac Bridges
5. Thomas Wakeman c1852 Victoria, died 1859
6. Richard Joseph Wakeman 1855 #8875
7. Mary Ann Thursey Wakeman 1855 #8876
8. Edward Wakeman 1856 #14003
9. James Wakeman c1859 - 1935 died in Melbourne, Victoria, wed 1882 to Elizabeth Moore
10. Emily Wakeman 1861 #4742
4. Richard Joseph Wakeman 1855 #8875 wed 1880 #1556 to Margaret Paynter born at Adelaide, lived at White Hills
1st Child 1. May Wakeman 1884 #13656
5. Mary Ann Thursey/Thirza Wakeman 1855 #8876 wed 1878 #2950 to Alexander Forbes Robbie from Aberdeen
6. Edward Wakeman 1856 #14003 wed 1887 #2098 to Margaret Ward and lived at White Hills
1st Child 1. John Edgar Wakeman 1888 #16555
7. Emily Wakeman 1861 #4742 wed 1885 #1923 to Henry Peatling may be Henry Peatling 1861 #16806 born at Sandhurst, lived at White Hills
2 Children 1. Herbert Henry Peatling 1886 #14728
2. Leslie Peatling 1888 #16542

John Wakeman Two

John Wakeman 1808 - 1863 #5587 aged 55 son of Elizabeth and John Wakeman died at Essendon, matches parents names for Chr 03 MAR 1811 at Ribbesford, Worcester, England
Ann Sheldon arrived 20 Jan 1843 on the Garland Grove (2) departed 02 Oct 1842 from Woolwich with 202 female convicts.

John Wakeman 2nd in Tasmania came free applied Jan 1844 to wed 1844 to Hannah Sheldon and they were in Melb 1848 and the children were Chr at St James, Church Of England Melbourne, lived at Richmond

13 Children 1. Thomas Wakeman 1844 died 1844
2. Mary Ann Wakeman 1845 in Tasmania
3. Elizabeth Wakeman 1848 #16076 in Melbourne
4. Hannah Wakeman 1850 #16883
5. William Wakeman 1852 #17621
6. Richard James Wakeman 1853 #18221
7. Jane Elizabeth Wakeman 1855 #10162 - 1883 #5938 aged 26
8. William Henry Wakeman 1857 #5228
9. Emily Wakeman 1859 #6637
10. Clara Wakeman 1861 #12531 - 1862 #9608 lived 18 months
11. Mary Alice Wakeman 1863 #10324 - 1868 #9617 lived 5 years
12. Eliza Wakeman 1863 #10325
13. Martha Wakeman 1866 #10639 wed 1888 #8615 to Joseph Mcmanus
7. Jane Elizabeth Wakeman 1855 #10162 - 1883 #5938 aged 26, wed 1877 #1121 to George Orsborn from Devonshire
George Orsborn from Plymouth wed 1884 #1267 to Ellen Pope
8. William Henry Wakeman 1857 #5228 wed 1878 #1121 to Margaret Ann Kelly born in New York, and lived at Richmond
4 Children 1. Alice Wakeman 1878 - 1879 #8931 lived 9 months 2. Lily May Wakeman 1880 #24579
3. George Thomas Wakeman 1883 #4952
4. Arthr William Wakeman 1888 #19353

Wellman

Daniel Wellman wed 1856 #2965 to Margaret Booth nee Roberts/Robbie and lived at Woolshed, Rutherglen,
Margaret Robbie wed 1854 #1592 to David Booth 1831 - 1856 #1696 aged 25 parents not known,
6 Children 1. Frances Webster Booth 1855 #319 - 1875 #967 aged 20
2. Daniel Harper Wellman 1857 #12664
3. Evelina Wellman 1860 #5333
4. James Prescott Wellman 1863 #5097
5. Mary Isabella Wellman 1864 #22351
6. William John Charles Wellman 1867 #16991
3. Eveline Wellman 1860 #5333 wed 1882 #5098 to John Henry Hooper Chambers 1859 #7426
4. James Prescott Wellman 1863 #5097 wed 1888 #8305 to Mary Ann Jarrett 1858 #758 of Melbourne
5. Mary Isabella Wellman 1864 #22351 wed 1888 #4993 to Robert Winter born at Wandiligon


Whinray

From on Mon, 9 Apr 2007

Hi Thanks for the very fast response. Whilst I enjoy the detective work of finding names and dates and solving mysteries (the crossword puzzle aspect) what really interests me is historical causes and motivations.

I should love to know just why John Jackson Whinray and his family moved - was it desperation, or opportunity knocking? What work they could find when they arrived? Did they stay near their arrival point or head for the outback?

It sounds as though his son Jeremiah took seriously the instruction to go forth and multiply.

Various members of the UK Whinray family are in fact going to stage a reunion (if you can call it a reunion when there has been no contact between the families for 150 years!) to celebrate in January 2008 the 200th wedding anniversary of John Jackson Whinray's parents, Tom and Jane Whinray. Any Australian descendants would be most welcome, but I can't see myself phoning Whinrays in Victoria out of the blue and issuing the invite....

Are you yourself a descendant of John Jackson Whinray?

Just to recap, John J was one of three brothers. What I have which I could readily send if you are interested is:
1. Short summary of history of the Carnforth Whinrays from 1664, and conjecturally prior to that.
2. Detailed notes on the family from 1664 to 1819, when Tom Whinray and Jane née Jackson for reasons unknown moved 15 miles inland. Then both died within the year.
3. Detailed notes on Jane Jackson's family.
4. UK Census etc notes on John Jackson Whinray's branch, most of whom emigrated in 1856.
5. UK Census etc notes on Thomas Whinray's branch
6. UK Census etc notes on James Whinray's branch
Unfortunately the family trees I produce on sheets of A2 paper, which clarify it all, are nigh on impossible to transmit by computer.
I am sending item 4, which is the briefest, in pdf form, to see if you can read it.
Paul


John Jackson Whinray born 20 Sep 1808, Christening: 16 Oct 1808 Warton Near Lancaster, son of Jane Jackson and Thomas Whinray, wed 9 Oct 1828 to Elizabeth Leech born 1805, Christening: 27 Oct 1805 Clapham, Yorkshire, England dau of Mary Windle and Christopher Leech,

John Whinray 47, 20 Sep 1808 - 1882 #5470 aged 70 died 1 Apr 1882 at Geelong Hospital and Burial at Steiglitz Cemetery, Victoria, came to Victoria Jan 1857 on Arabian as Assisted Immigrants surnamed Wheney, with Elizabeth Leech aged 48, 1807 - 1873 #8396 aged 66 dau of Mary Whindle and Christopher Leach of York, Mary Whinray 19 (1837), Catherine Whinray 17 (1839), Jeremiah Whinray 14 (1842), Elizabeth Whinray 11 (1845), Ellen Whinray 8 (1847) and Alice Whinray 5 (1852), leaving Thomas Whinray c1830 and Christopher Whinray c1834 in UK
Christopher Whinnery aged 25 in Jan 1880 on Kent age does not fit to be Christopher Whinray joining his family, may be Christopher Whinray registered June 1849 at Settle
Elizabeth Leach died 11 Sep 1873 in Eclipse, and was buried 13 Sep 1873 at Steiglitz Cemetery, Victoria, Australia

10 children 1. Jane Whinray christened 18 Jan 1829 at Clapham, not in 1841 census
2. Thomas Whinray christened 17 Oct 1830 at Clapham
3. Mary Whinray christened 19 Sep 1832 at Clapham, not in 1841 census
4. Christopher Whinray christened 21 Sep 1834 at Clapham
5. Mary Whinray 19 (1837) in Settle area, Yorkshire
6. Catherine Whinray 17 (1839)
7. Jeremiah Whinray 14 (1842)
8. Elizabeth Whinray 11 (1845 - two of this name, in June and Sept at Settle)
9. Ellen Whinray 8 registered Sep 1847 at Settle
10. Alice Ann Whinray 5 ( registered Sep 1851 at West Derby in Lancashire)
5. Mary Whinray 19 (1837) wed 1865 #4298 to James McCrae and lived at Camperdown
4 children 1. Eliz Cath McCrae 1868 #1308
2. James Leitch McCrae 1870 #1194
3. John Bell McCrae 1872 #7603
4. Mary Roebuck McCrae 1874 #14375
6. Catherine Whinray 17, 1839 - 1897 wed c1862 to William Findlay and lived at Geelong, Panmure
4 children 1. Jane Findlay 1868 - 1875 #2253 lived 7 years
2. Alice Rebecca Findlay 1872 #9100 - 1876 #8992 aged 4 years, mother called Mary Hobnell
3. Wilhelmine Findlay 1879 #11004
4. George John Findlay 1881 #11327
7. Jeremiah Whinray 1842 - 1895 #7579 aged 52 died at Wilby, wed 1868 #2459X1873 to Sarah Twite, and lived at Moorabool
14 children 1. Mary Ann Whinray 1868 wed 1888 #3754 to Robert Harling
2. Anne Whinray 1869 #5468
3. Ellen Whinray 1870 #17885 - 25 Jan 1872, lived 1 year
4. John Whinray 1872 #10851 - 15 Oct 1873, lived 1 year
5. Elizabeth Whinray 1874 #4219 - 1928
6. Jane Whinray 1875 #18041 - 1920 #8085 aged 44
7. Thomas Jeremiah Whinray 1877 #10383 - 1845
8. Rose Whinray 1879 #10755 - 1951 wed Nailor
9. James Whinray 1880 #23970
10. John Whinray 1883 #13545 wed Ethel Jones
11. George Whinray 1885 #22669 - 1935 aged 50
12. Ethel May Whinray 1887 #15624 wed 1914 #6716 to Archie Walter Holland
13. Robert Henry Jackson Whinray 1888 #34627 wed 1910 #5597 to Lily Jane Wright
14. Eliza Ellen Whinray 23 Jan 1892 - 13 Nov 1968 aged 76, wed 1919 #10727 to William Walters Rosser 5 Feb 1890 - 20 Jul 1872 aged 82
4. Elizabeth Whinray 1874 #4219 wed 1897 #7026 to Arthur John Ashman 1866 #7884 born at Brandy
7. Thomas Jeremiah Whinray 1877 #10383 - 1845 wed 1906 to Elsie Mary Holland
See Buerckner family page for Martha who wed on 20 Feb 1937 in Tungamah, Victoria to their grandson, George Jeremiah Whinray son of Thomas Whinray and Elsie Mary Holland, born on 25 Feb 1908 in Beeac, Victoria. He died on 19 Jul 1979 in Yarrawonga, Victoria. He was buried on 21 Jul 1979 in Tungamah, Victoria.
3 children 1. George Jeremiah Whinray 1908 #5897
2. Vivienne May Whinray 1910 #29744
3. Thomas Desmond Whinray 1912 #13197
14. Eliza Ellen Whinray 23 Jan 1892 - 13 Nov 1968 aged 76, wed 1919 #10727 to William Walters Rosser 5 Feb 1890 - 20 Jul 1872 aged 82, born at Corowa NSW, son of Christina Johnson and William Walters Rosser, 8 chn.
8. Elizabeth Whinray 11 (1845) wed 1869 #442 to William Baillie from Nova Scotia and lived at Steiglitz (near Geelong?), Moorabool and later at Yarrawonga
9 children 1. Lavinia Jane Baillie 1869 #25286 - 1 Oct 1873 #11233 lived 3 years
2. Alice Catherine Baillie 1872 #12355
3. Donald Baillie 1873 #24111 - mother's surname Whinrey born at Geelong
4. Thomas Jeremiah Baillie 1875 #12634 has son still living
5. Elizabeth Leach Baillie 1877 #17280 - 1878 #1722 lived 4 months
6. John William Murdoch Baillie 1879 #10754
7. Robert Athol Baillie 1882 #13223 - 1886 #7899 lived 3 years
8. Jessie May Baillie 1884 #6590
9. Kenneth Edison Baillie 1887 #33149 - 2 daughters

From on Fri, 15 Jun 2007

Elizabeth,
I am a descendant of John Jackson Whinray and Elizabeth Leech. His daughter Elizabeth married William Baillie whose youngest son, Kenneth is my grandfather. Kenneth had two daughters, Janita Marie (my mother) and Valerie. Janita had 11 children and Valerie had no children.
We are all living in Australia and would be interested in seeing details regarding the Whinray family. My grandfather died when my mother was only 18 and they never kept in touch with his family so we are currently trying to track them all down now.
Very grateful for the information you have posted on your website as I know Primrose Tayler (Baillie) who I have just discovered tonight is my second cousin relayed the information about a reunion. Gotta love the web.
Cheers
Rachel Elverd (Murphy)


Christopher Whinray c1834 wed 1886 #1575 to Mary Ann Pigdon 1865 at Darriwell, Victoria, lived at Yarrawonga, then Wilby.
3 children 1. Thomas Christopher Whinray 1890 #18837
2. Jane Ann Whinray 1894 #16947
3. Mary Elizth Whinray 1905 #7064
11. Alice Whinray 5, 1852 - 1881 #3266 aged 28, wed 1875 #30 to Abel Roberts 1846 #14790 christened at St James Church, Melbourne. Lived at Yarrawonga.
Abel Roberts wed (2) 1884 #992 to Anne Lonsdale and had 3 Children to 1888
1 Child 1. Elizabeth Jane Roberts 1879 #5677


This came from Paul White, with whom we have lost contact.
THE JOHN JACKSON WHINRAY LINE

Thomas Whinray and Jane née Jackson had 3 sons, John Jackson born 20 Sept 1808, Thomas born 7 January 1816 and James, probably born early in 1819; and 4 daughters. The move to Clapham became a disaster. Jane died, presumably in childbirth, and was buried the same day in February 1819 that James was christened. Thomas was left with six surviving children all aged under ten. Perhaps the stress was too much for him: he died the following year. How exactly they survived and who looked after their financial interests remains unclear, but I have found five of the six in the 1841 Census, so survive they did and they had the capital for all three brothers to set up in business.

John Jackson Whinray, the eldest son, married Elizabeth Leech (born about 1805 at Clapham, died 11/9/1873 in Australia) on 9 Oct 1828 at Clapham. In the 1841 Census, he is found lodging in Austwick and working as a cattle dealer. He may have been unsuccessful, because ten years later he is an agricultural labourer in Toxteth, Liverpool, but he and the rest of the family (with the exception of the eldest son Thomas) decided to emigrate and arrived in Australia on the Arabia in January 1857. He died 1 April 1882.

His son Jeremiah married Sarah Twite in Australia, and they had fourteen children. I assume some of these moved on again, to New Zealand, where there is a Whineray National Park, and Sir Wilson Whineray is one of Rugby Unions’s legendary players, captain of the best ever All Black side. But this may have been a separate emigration.

CENSUS INFORMATION
In 1891 at 67 Wagstaff Street, Toxteth Park

Thomas Winray 58 1833 Clapham, Craven Cattle dealer
Thomas died at Toxteth Q1 1895, unmarried as far as I can ascertain

In 1881 at 31 Grey Street, Toxteth Park
Thomas Whinray 48 1833 Clapham Cow keeper
Elizabeth Wright 60 1821 Wigton, Cumberland Dom serv
James Nelson 16 1867 Liverpool Dom. serv.

In 1871 at 28 Avison Street Toxteth Park (indexed Whinsay)
Thomas Whinray 39 1832 Clapham Cow keeper
Christopher 20 1851 Clapham Cow keeper (nephew)
Elizabeth (widow) 46 1825 Wigton Servant
Anthony Metcalf 10 1861 Lancaster Scholar
In 1861 at Newby
Mary Leech 77 1784 Clapham
William Leech 53 1808 Austwick unmarried son, ag. lab.
Christ. Whinray 11 1850 Clapham grandson

In 1861 in Toxteth Park
Thomas is a boarder in the house of John Walton. Occupation cattle dealer.

In 1851 at 7 Court Holland, no. 7, Toxteth Park Liverpool
John 40 1811 Lancashire Labourer, farm
Elizabeth 44 1807 Clapham Yorks
Thomas 20 1831 Clapham Yorks
Jeremiah 8 1843 Clapham Yorks
Elizabeth 5 1846 Clapham Yorks
Ellen 3 1848 Clapham Yorks

In 1851 at Eldroth Hall
Mary Whinray 14 1837 Clapham House servant
In 1851 at Manor House, Ingleton in the house of Edward Harrison
Jane Whineray 22 1829 Clapham House servant

In 1851 at Coldcoates, Ingleton
Fanny Mason 62 1789 Hesket, Cumberland Late farmer’s wife
Christopher Winneray 1 1850 Clapham (lodger)
Fanny might be the widow of Isaac Mason of Bentham, llabourer

In 1841 at Watson House Austwick, in the household of Thomas Oldfield
John 1811 cattle dealer
Thomas 1816 butcher
(In the same household, the wife and daughter of Thomas Oldfield and Ann and Alice Windsor, 50 and 40 respectively.)

In Newby, in the household of Mary Leech (independent means) NB This is the mother of John Jackson Whinray’s wife
Elizabeth Whinaray 1806 née Leach or Leech b 27 Oct 1805
Thomas Whinaray 1831
Christopher Whinaray 1835
Mary Whinaray 1837
Catherine Whinaray 1840

John Jackson and Elizabeth christened the following children At Clapham:
18/1/1829 Jane
17/10/1830 Thomas
19/9/1832 Mary
21/9/1834 Christopher
And elsewhere (or possibly in a non-conformist chapel rather than C of E)
c1837 Mary
c1839 Catherine ?1839 Settle
Also Jeremiah Q 3 1842
Elizabeth 1846 Q2 1845 Settle district
Ellen 1848 Q3 1847 Settle district



Wooltorton

Robert Wooltorton and Elizabeth Harris of Denton, Norfolk, England had 2 sons come to Victoria, George Wooltorton aged 27 and Walter Wooltorton aged 23 came Aug 1853 on the Chowringhee.
George Wooltorton christened 26 Apr 1826 died 1858 #6930 aged 30 from Norfolk

Walter Wooltorton Christening: 30 May 1829 wed 1856 #2118 to Sarah Downs and lived at Dunolly

8 Children 1. Elizabeth Wooltorton 1857 - 1863 #1148 lived 5 years
2. Walter George Wooltorton c1860
3. Francis James watts">Wooltorton 1862 #7941
4. Louisa Ellen Wooltorton 1864 #14823
5. Mary Catherine Wooltorton 1868 #22951
6. Henry Downs Wooltorton 1873 #23515
7. Alice Sarah Wooltorton 1877 #21781
8. Ethel Anne Wooltorton 1882 #8697
2. Walter George Wooltorton c1860 wed 1881 #4412 to Mary Hannah Margaret Nelson and lived at Dunolly
7 Children 1. Ethel Elizabeth Wooltorton 1882 #15533
2. Alice Sophia Wooltorton 1884 #8906
3. Minnie Mary Wooltorton 1886 #2392
4. Walter George Wooltorton 1888 #2495
5. Violet Wooltorton 1890 #2891
6. Eva May Wooltorton 1892 #3384
7. Sarah Wooltorton 1894 #11329
3. Francis James Wooltorton 1862 #7941 wed 1890 #5877 to Hart Watts 1862 #16383 dau of Ann Walton and Henry Watts born at Moonambel, and lived at Dunolly
4 Children 1. Violet May Wooltorton 1891 #2684
2. Alice Annie Wooltorton 1896 #10924
3. Robt Hy Wooltorton 1898 #10553
4. Wm Fran Wooltorton 1900 #26069
4. Louisa Ellen Wooltorton 1864 #14823 wed 1884 #3296 to John Thomas Gathercole 1860 #21623 and lived at Dunolly
8 Children 1. Helena Gathercole 1885 #24989
2. Harry Gathercole 1887 #10568
3. Ada Gathercole 1889 - 1895 #1423 lived 5 years
4. Sarah Blanche Gathercole 1891 #11798
5. Fredk Gathercole 1894 #20091
6. Leonard Gathercole 1897 #18693
7. Walt Thos Gathercole 1900 #2738
8. Leslie Gathercole 1901 #26441
5. Mary Catherine Wooltorton 1868 #22951 wed 1891 #593 to Edwd Burbridge son of Rebecca Close and William Burbridge of Bealiba, and lived at Dunolly
4 Children 1. Walt Hy Burbridge 1892 #3370
2. Alice Sarah Burbridge 1893 #12215
3. Ellen Eliz Burbridge 1894 #28689
4. Edward George Burbridge 1896 #10929
6. Hy Downs Wooltorton 1873 #23515 - 1957 #17302 aged 82, wed 1898 #7248 to Sarah Hannah Dickinson
2 Children 1. Mildred Nellie Myra Wooltorton 1899 #27947
2. Ivan Henry Wooltorton 1905 - 1976 #15454 aged 71 years


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