Joseph Waters, William Watson, Joseph Watters, Thomas Wiffen, William Henry Williams, Jonah Wise

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Joseph Waters, William Watson, Joseph Watters,
Thomas Wiffen, William Henry Williams, Jonah Wise,

Waters

Of unknown value - from TheShipList
ship Reliance, 805 tons, Captain Henry B. Fell, from Liverpool 10th June / Plymouth 16th June 1851, arrived at Port Adelaide, South Australia 13th September 1851 with Joseph Waters aged 34 Agr. Labourer 1680/1 from Cornwall, Elizabeth Waters 31 and Elizabeth inf died on shore, Sep 16
The barque China, 658 tons, Captain George McMillan, from London / Plymouth 26th July 1852, arrived at Port Adelaide, South Australia 12th November 1852 with Mary Stevens 25 Domestic Servant Middlesex and Elizabeth Stevens 18 Domestic Servant Middlesex

Information provided by before Dec 2002
Joseph Waters b cica 1834 wed 1853 Adelaide South Australia to Elizabeth Ann Stephens b cica 1836, lived at Stawell, Clunes then settled at St Arnaud in Victoria.
I did have both Elizabeth of Redruth and Joseph also born in Cornwall - sorry, doubt about birth places Jan 2005, both came from England

12 Children

1. Joseph Waters 1854-08-25 in South Australia
2. William Thomas Waters 1856 #9265 Stawell Vic
3. Harriet Ann Waters 1857 #16474 - 1875 #8950 aged 17
4. John Waters 1859 #8309 Clunes
5. Louisa Waters 1861 #14133
6. Mary Ann Elizabeth Waters 1863 #17554 St Arnard
7. Jane Waters 1865 #18843
8. Ellen Waters 1868 #5764
9. Charles Waters 1870 #12045
10. Walter Waters 1872 #12387
11. Henry Waters 1875 #5715 - 1875 #8949 lived 5 weeks
12. Samuel Henry Waters 1877 #5504

1. Joseph Waters 1854-08-25 born in Adelaide, wed 1879 #2693 to Elizabeth Youren 1861 born in Inglewood, moved to Hawthorn

8 Children

1. Mary Elizabeth Waters 1880 at St Arnaud
2. Ethel Emma Waters 1882 at Bealiba
3. Charles Henry Waters 1884
4. William Francis Waters 1886 at Hawthorn
5. Arthur Thomas Waters 1888 at Richmond
6. Ruby May Waters 1890 #7080
7. Richard James Waters 1892 #333
8. Samuel Henessey Waters 1900 #28076 at Matlock

2. Ethel Emma Waters 1882 at Bealiba, wed Robert Peter Lawson, 4 chn

2. William Thomas Waters 1856 #9265 wed 1876 #4134 to Elizabeth Currie and lived at Swanhill, St Arnaud, Charlton then Wycheproof

6 Children

1. Louisa Agnes Waters 1877 #19018
2. Elizabeth Ann Waters 1879 #19583
3. Jane Waters 1881 #22200
4. William Thomas Waters 1884 #6509
5. John Waters 1886 #7275
6. Ellen Waters 1888 #16774

3. Harriet Ann Waters 1857 #16474 - 1875 #8950 aged 17, wed 1874 #1459 to Theodore Cenel born in Mauritius. Note Harriet's baby was registered the same time as her brother Henry who died aged 5 weeks and his death is registered just before her death, so she died 5 weeks after her baby was born.
Cenel T aged 24 came May 1854 on the Aristide Marie, and Mrs Cenel aged 35 came Feb 1855 on the Australia.

1 Child

1. Sophie Loetitia Cenel 1875 #5713

4. John Waters 1859 #8309 Clunes wed 1880 #2907 to Maria Goldspring 1860 #15817 born at Amherst, lived at Maryborough, Korongvale, Avonplains

5 Children

1. Jno Chas Waters 1880 #19986
2. Alice Louisa Waters 1882 #6544
3. Twin Clara Waters 1883 #24441
4. Twin Eva Waters 1883 #24442 - 1884 #4945 lived 1 month
5. Arthur Edward Waters 1885 #4053

From on Fri, 28 Jan 2005

I came upon your info re Australian Pioneer families, this is part of my husbands ancestors, except some of your info appears a little different to mine. My Joseph Waters isn’t from Cornwall but from Kent, and Elizabeth Ann Stephens I have quoted on one document as being from St Ives in Cornwall. I have been tracing this family for years and just need proof of where Elizabeth was actually born, as you would know its not stated on the marriage cert in SA. I have also researched in Cornwall, and feel I know who her parents where, but don’t want to link them up until I have more conclusive proof.

We are descended from daughter Louisa Waters who married Peter McNally Farish, there were 11 children,

5. Louisa Waters 1861 #14133 wed 1881 #4737 to Peter McNally Farish 1861 #15739 born at Lexton

4 Children

1. Helen (Ellen) Elizabeth Farish 1882 #13811 - 1884 #7890 lived 22 months
2. Margaret Jane Farish 1884 #14567
3. James Anderson Farish 1886 #7537
4. Mary Louisa Farish 1887 #25532

7. Jane Waters 1865 #18843 wed 1884 #2744 to George Wood born in England

3 Children

1. James George Theodore Wood 1886 #2386
2. Ruby May Wood 1887 #12020
3. Bertie Wood 1888 #27386

8. Ellen Waters 1868 #5764 wed 1887 #4409 to Phillip Jones 1859 #9115 born at Maryborough

2 Children

1. Twin Rachael Jones 1888 #22194
2. Twin Ellen Jones 1888 #22195

From on Thu, 28 Dec 2006
Hello Elizabeth, I have just been surfing looking for further information on my husbands family history and I came apon your entrance for Waters on your Pioneers site I am researching the Waters line, George Rutledge Waters, was born in 1824 Hampshire England and died in Naracoorte South Australia, he married Mary Jane Harris in 1852 at Dundas Stn, Victoria she was born in 1833 Dublin Ire, she died in Apsley Vic in 1911
They had a son Mark Henry Waters who died in 1930 at St Arnaud in Victoria,
I have often wondered if there is a connection between your Waters and mine as some of mine went to Kerang and Alexander and Bendigo and also St Arnaud but most have died in either SA or Hamilton area of Victoria
Have you ever come across any connection? I know the Rutledge ( Routledge ) name comes down the line, George Rutledge Waters was a Bullock Driver, and his son Mark was a shearer
cheers Lesley
Ps I was wondering what your connection to the Tarnagulla area was, as we have a link to Waanyarra and Tarnagulla also.

Watson

Marriages Mar 1848 - William Watson and Henrietta Greenbank at Newcastle Tyne Vol 25 page 339
William Watson 28 came Oct 1852 on the Chance with Henrietta Greenbank and 2 chn and lived at Creswick then Macedon

10 Children

1. Adelaide Watson 3
2. Alfred Watson 2 died?
3. Alfred William Greenbank Watson 1854 #3481
4. Emily Adelaide Watson 1855 #10362
5. Ernest Edwin Watson 1857 #5580
6. Laura Stella Watson 1860 #1938 wed 1878 #4686 to Joseph Campey, see letter below
7. Herbert Canard Watson 1862 #8571 lived 2 years
8. Albert Edward Watson 1863 #20642
9. Flora Constance Watson 1865 #23043 lived 6 months
10. Herbert Kanard Watson 1867 #22744

3. Alfred William Greenbank Watson 1854 #3481 wed 1879 #2061 to Mary Frances Turner 1858 #13505 - 1882 #12304 aged 24
Alfred Wm Greenbank Watson wed 1885 #3108 to Sarah Farrar, lived at Kyneton

2 children

1. Ernest John Watson 1880 #16888
2. William Noah Watson 1882 #10356 - 1882 #9113 lived 9 days

3 Children

3. Alfred George Watson 1886 #11445
4. Mabel Ann Watson 1887 #17132
5. Adelaide Hetta Watson 1890 #14469

4. Emily Adelaide Watson 1855 #10362 - 1921 #1501 aged 65, wed 1871 #718 to Robert Thomas Allen from Cambridge

2 Children

1. Alfred John Allen 1871 #17300
2. James Ernest Allen 1872 #24254

5. Ernest Edwin Watson 1857 #5580 - 1939 #10302 aged 82, wed 1880 #4402 to Janet Wainwright Smith born at Kyneton

4 Children

1. Henry William Watson 1881 #17361
2. Herbert James Watson 1883 #17434
3. Ernest Edwin Watson 1886 #3649
4. Vincent Albert Watson 1888 #30473

8. Albert Edward Watson 1863 #20642 wed 1887 #4397 to Emily Maria Young and lived at Ascot Vale then Woodside

5 Children

1. Hubert Victor Watson 1890 #12889
2. Wilbert Cyril Watson 1892 #19752X1907
3. Albt Edw Watson 1897 #7956
4. Gladys Vic Watson 1898 #7586
5. Darcy Edw Watson 1900 #14804X1902

From on Sunday, 23 November, 2008

Hello Elizabeth,
I have been reading your Australian Pioneer Families entry on the Watson family. Laura Stella Watson married Joseph Campey in 1878, as stated on your page. However, while your page says there were no children, there were in fact 3 boys born to the couple. The sons were:
William John Taylor Campey born October 1880 in Murrumburrah, NSW
Alfred Joseph Henry Campey born March 1882 in Murrumburrah, NSW
George Harden Campey born March 1884 in Harden, NSW.

Joseph Campey was a railway worker based at Harden / Murrumurrah near Young in NSW. He was killed in a railway accident near Cootamundra, NSW in 1885. His three sons all became railway workers.
Laura Stella Watson remarried in 1890 in Young, NSW to Thomas Miller, another railway worker. They had 5 children, 2 daughters and three sons. Their eldest daughter was my grandmother.
If you would like any further information, please let me know.
Kind regards, Gail Macqueen

Watters

Joseph Watters came c1861 with Grace Buzza and lived at Creswick then Daylesford

7 Children

1. John Watters died 1862 #4150 aged 3 years
2. John Watters 1862 #13935
3. Mary Ann Watters 1864 #21313
4. Richard Watters 1864 #21312
5. James Watters 1869 #15058
6. Rebecca Ann Watters 1876 #8682
7. Grace Watters 1879 #18373 wed 1889 #7270 to Jos Beer

2. John Watters 1862 #13935 wed 1886 #5827R to Sarah Jane Stone 1863 #18786 - 1931 #338 aged 67, and lived at Shepparton

4 Children

1. Jno Leslie Watters 1889 #7519
2. Geo Alb Watters 1891 #27541
3. Grace Elizabeth Watters 1893 #35171
4. Ethel Sarah Watters 1897 #7381

3. Mary Ann Watters 1864 #21313 wed 1886 #2459 to John Nankervis Thomas from St Just, Cormwall

1 Child

1. Grace Maud Thomas 1887 #2464

4. Richard Watters 1864 #21312 wed 1891 #2821 to Frances Quelch 1867 #11240 - 1895 #11082 aged 28 died at South Yarra
Richard Watters wed 1896 #7356 to Laura Emily Birt

2 Children

1. Richd Chas Watters 1892 #14345
2. Jos Hy Watters 1894 #15657 lived 11 months

5. James Watters 1869 #15058 born at Daylesford, wed 1891 #3937 to Esther Louisa Judd lived at South Yarra

1 child

1. Alice Stuart May Watters 1892 #17497

6. Rebecca Ann Watters 1876 #8682 wed 1901 #3865 to Edwd Arth Peach, 2 Children

Wiffen

Henry Wiffen 1807 - 1885 #11094 aged 78, son of Susanna and Thomas Wiffen, died at Ballarine
Susanna Wiffen 1812 - 1876 #11084 aged 64 parents Unknown
Geo Wiffen 1820 - 1897 #7798 aged 77, son of Thomas Wiffen died at Bellarine
Thomas Wiffen 1829 - 1919 #14602 aged 90, son of Amy Arnold and Henry Wiffen, wed 1856 #1197 to Ann Harden / Harding 1839 - 1877 #7230 aged 38, daughter of Maria and John Harding from Hampshire, and lived at Indented Head and later at Bellarine

12 Children

1. Edward Wiffen 1858 #2314
2. Emma Wiffen 1859 #13226
3. Susan Wiffen 1861 #14086
4. Jane Wiffen 1863 #2784 lived 1 month
5. Samuel Wiffen 1864 #9319 lived 2 years
6. John Wiffen 1866 #8969
7. Twin Alice Wiffen 1868 #4528 lived 14 days
8. Twin Anna Wiffen 1868 #4529 lived 12 days
9. Elizabeth Wiffen 1871 #14250
10. Henry Wiffen 1873 #22078
11. George Wiffen 1875 #14122
12. James Wiffen 1877 #13265

1. Edward Wiffen 1858 #2314 wed 1879 #1639 to Emily Wilkin 1860 #7958 - 1932 #3587 aged 72, born at Indented Heads, and lived at Bellarine

4 children

1. Elsie Ann Wiffen 1880 #546
2. Ernest Edward Wiffen 1881 #7169
3. Albert Joseph Wiffen 1883 #14233
4. Fredric Leonel Wiffen 1887 #719

3. Susan Wiffen 1861 #14086 - 1928 #5283 aged 66, wed 1882 #5130 to Alfred Thwaites and lived at Queenscliff, 6 children

6. John Wiffen 1866 #8969 - 1927 #7308 aged 61, wed 1888 #2568 to Elizabeth Ann On Thong nee Cook 1863 - 1927 #16579 aged 64, and lived at Richmond and later Prahan

6 children

1. Mildred Louisa Wiffen 1890 #16694
2. Bertie Thos Wiffen 1891 #27038 lived 8 months
3. Phillis Mary Wiffen 1893 #7230
4. Wesley Wiffen 1897 #21980 lived 1 day
5. Stanley John Wiffen 1898 #28584
6. Harold Wiffen 1900 #13659 lived 1 day

1. Mildred Louisa Wiffen 1890 - 1914 #11439 aged 24, wed 1911 #9362 to Charles Henry Akers 1890 #37017 - 1953 #21503 aged 62, who wed 1918 #8793 to Winifred Rosetta Godfrey, lived at Prahan, 2 children

9. Elizabeth Wiffen 1871 #14250 wed 1894 #2235 to Henry Higgins, no issue

10. Henry Wiffen 1873 #22078 wed 1902 #3573 to Alice Frith divorced in 1915

From on 4 Oct 2004

Henry divorced Alice, children you have belong to George Wiffen and Alice Mary Jackson

At this stage I believe and have absolutely no proof, Thomas Wiffen married 1856 to Alice is the child of Henry 1808 and Amy (Emma) ARNOLD who definitely had another child William born 1842. Henry 1808 was born Finchingfield, Essex, ENG and is the son of Thomas and Susanna WIFFEN.

George Wiffen 1820 - 1897 #7798 aged 77 son of Thomas Wiffen,came c1855 with Anne Mumford 1829 - 1908 #1585 aged 79, and lived at Indented Head then Bellarine

7 Children

1. Hannah Wiffen 1856 #12574
2. Thomas Wiffen 1858 #11910 - 1859 #1437 lived 6 months
3. Susan Wiffen 1860 #2551 - 1861 #9113 lived 23 months
4. Geo Thos Wiffen 1863 - 1943 #15788 aged 80
5. Wm Jno Wiffen 1865 - 1933 #16042 aged 68
6. Samuel James Wiffen 1867 #13121
7. Charles Henry Wiffen 1869 #20672 - 1944 #9756 aged 74

4. George Wiffen wed 1890 #494 to Alice Mary Jackson 1872 - 1948 #16776 aged 76, daughter of George Jackson, and lived at Drysdale
Only one child's death gives George a second name, which links George and Alice Mary Jackson to the death of George Thomas, instead of calling him just George.

9 Children

1. Arth Geo Wiffen 1891 #7752 - 1959 #27647 aged 68 wed 1913 #4048 to Bertha Annie Chirgwin
2. Walt Ernt Wiffen 1892 #30422 wed 1914 #4096 to Maud Matilda Chirgwin
3. Frank Edwin Wiffen 1895 #854
4. Freda Grace Wiffen 1897 #805 wed 1920 #2871 to Stanley Vincent Simmons
5. Horace Jos Wiffen 1902 #7880
6. Eva Winifred Wiffen 1904 #687
7. Ethel Anne Wiffen 1907 #24070
8. Cecil Clive Wiffen 1910 #18818 - 1913 #1398 lived 2 years
9. Keith Kitchener Wiffen 1915 #11814

5. Wm Jno Wiffen 1865 - 1933 #16042 aged 68 wed 1903 #478 to Edith Williams Whitcomb, no listed chn in Vic

6. Samuel James Wiffen 1867 #13121 wed 1892 #4511 to Alicia Letitia Sheridan 1870 #14681 born at Clunes, and lived at Mildura then Bendigo

3 Children

1. Mary Dorothy Wiffen 1893 #24778
2. Fredk Robt Wiffen 1895 #22999
3. Flor Ellen Wiffen 1901 #987

7. Charles Henry Wiffen 1869 #20672 - 1944 #9756 aged 74 wed 1892 #2327 to Isabella Gillan Sheills 1870 - 1924 #15963 aged 54, and lived at Bellarine then Carlton

5 Children

1. Charles Benleigh Wiffen 1892 #29652 - 1949 #4825 aged 54
2. Ernest Leslie Wiffen 1894 #17813 - 1895 #498 lived 9 months
3. Ada May Wiffen 1896 #8860
4. Isabel Wiffen 1901 #24491
5. Stanley Wiffen 1906 #16819

Williams

William Henry Williams came c1865 with Helena (Angeline) Moulding (Molding) and lived at Blackwood

3 Children

1. William Reuben Williams 1866 #6768
2. Alfred Henry Williams 1869 #20757
3. Frederick William Williams 1873 #831

Wm Reuben Williams 1866 #6768 wed 1896 #526R to Rose Anna Grace Warner 1874 #2460

Wise

Jonah Wise 30 came May 1852 on the Sir Robert Sale with Eliza Bird 27, 1823 - 1876 #11730 aged 53 dau of Eliza Gale and John Bird of Huntingdonshire, as Assisted British Immigrants and lived at Collingwood and later Daylesford

8 Children

1. Stephen Wise c1848
2. Ezra Wise 1853 #347 lived 6 months
3. Mary Wise 1856 #1290
4. Samuel Wise 1857 #3032
5. John Bird Wise 1859 #20494
6. Alice Wise 1862 #2692
7. Naomi Wise 1864 #14711
8. Ruth Wise 1867 #21406

1. Stephen Wise c1848 from Huntingdonshire wed 1874 #1205 to Mary Lilley

2 Children

1. Eliza Ann Wise 1878 #2319
2. Alice Wise 1881 #9061

4. Samuel Gregory Wise 1857 #3032 wed c1881 to Bridget McGinty lived at Allendale

11 children

1. Eliza Ann Wise 1882 #20373
2. Sarah Jane Wise 1885 #7148
3. Joseph Henry Wise 1887 #42
4. Neil Herbert Wise 1888 #26041
5. John James Wise 1890 #9001
6. Wm Augusta Wise 1892 #9422
7. Ctina Isabell Wise 1894 #96 lived 1 month
8. Imelda Maud Wise 1895 #25962
9. Madelin Rose Wise 1897 #24094
10. Gregory Gerald Wise 1899 #9430
11. Robt Saml Wise 1900 #17885

3. Joseph Henry Wise 1887 - 1952 #17937, and died in Ballarat wed c1920 Bridget Ellen Mary Degraaff 1899 - 1987

8 children

1. Patrick Henry Wise
2. Henry Francis Wise.
3. Ann Wise.
4. Ena Wise.
5. Barry Joseph Wise.
6. Margaret Wise.
7. Michael Wise.
8. Eileen Veronica Wise.

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