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Weikai
Mon Apr 30 02:48:21 2001 GMT
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Yes and I had to hear about the Vietnam trip from a Batch 15er. So embarrassing to have said "Huh? My batch going to Vietnam? I don't know anything about that." But anyway I think the trip would be great, enjoy and please take lots of photos, show us when you come back!
Alvin sorry for the upload bug, I believe Jason has fixed that for you. I'll fix the bug so that the file do not append. And that picture of Cornell is really beautiful, reminds me of that waterfall one that Jason took sometime ago.
I just went to Newcastle (the one in Australia, not UK), which is further west from Sydney, with some of my pals. Snapped some nice pictures too, please take a look at http://weikai.hypermart.net.

Theresa
Sun Apr 29 04:20:55 2001 GMT
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But HQ you don't even spend money on yourself! And ah pek you missed the 3rd BTC. remember something much more insidious hanging on the horizon, namely bmt? er i am flying off on thursday night...so tue/wed would be better. alvin, really mystical picture of cornell there.

Haoyang
Sat Apr 28 16:54:45 2001 GMT
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yo pple..
most of u guys have finished ur exams rite?
esp the NUS ones? and in NTU...there's no one else ....
how abt a gathering or dinner or something this week before the vietnam bound goons fly off?
thurs nite ? dinner?

Alvin
Fri Apr 27 13:56:29 2001 GMT
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Eh Weikai or Jason... There seems to be a peculiarity with the file upload. I tried overwriting my old files, but ended up appending to them instead.... That's why some of my JPEGs are inflated. Could you delete Cornell, MyRoom, Parking, and StratfordShop.jpg? I'll upload replacements.

Or you could email to me the procedure for doing so? You know... Give a man a fish blah blah blah Thank you!

Alvin
Fri Apr 27 13:41:10 2001 GMT
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Oh ya... Thought I'd finally post a few pics from my Easter hols =)

Beautiful Cornell
Half my Room!
Parking in Niagara Falls

All the photos with my face in it look terrible, so the best I can offer is one with my back That's the car I rented... very nice huh? Handled beautifully on the highway

Alvin
Fri Apr 27 13:23:19 2001 GMT
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Wow... going to Vietnam =) The gang of us over here were talking about that as well! There're cheap tickets and its a good chance to see a country in transition. I was thinking of meeting my friend in China as well. Unfortunately, I've got OSMP and so I've gotta work my schedule around my attachment... when I finally get a posting.

It's a long backpacking trip huh? Leaves you lots of time to get up the mountain. 4000m is no joke. Yep, I miss trekking up hills as well! But am wondering if I'll ever fancy walking among the leeches and mozzies ever again. Maybe lah... if the group is good =) Tell us about your trip when you're (finally) back?

Personal online transactions are all about faith. You send him your ICQ password only when you get the $$ =)

Wenyi
Thu Apr 26 09:02:11 2001 GMT
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Eh what traitors?! I thought we told you about it? We didn't ask them, they asked us. Anyway I think there are still tickets floating around. Somehow I just didn't think that you'd be interested somehow. (too poor? But those were the old days eh?)

HQ don't pretend. Not travelling's got nothing to do with being poor haha. My exams are over! 3 papers in 3 days. Amazing. Altogether only 7 hours, sheesh, less than one single subject (lit!) in the As. Life is good, eh.

Xinyan
Wed Apr 25 18:04:10 2001 GMT
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Very gd, Wen, Jerm, and Josh! Traitors! Ask juniors never ask me!

Weikai: or whoever thinks tt danish might want to buy ur no. here's his: 9674697. i think he's only interested in 6 digit nos. i din want to sell to him coz it'll be too troublsome i think. i mean, how will i noe if he'll really wire me the money??

Huaquan
Wed Apr 25 09:12:48 2001 GMT
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Hiaz... everyone's making plans to travel... and poor (financial-wise) me is stuck here in little o'Singapore... Gonna be spending my hols looking for affordable avenues of entertainment with my girl...=P Tho i am seriously considering earning some cold hard cash for further pampering my girl...=P probly tuition or sth lah... dun want any full-time working thingy. Still got 2 FOCs to prepare and organize... hiaz... imagine me a GL (Group Leader) for both of them... Best of Luck for all those still having exams... i noe i'll need all the luck i can muster...

Wenyi
Wed Apr 25 05:09:50 2001 GMT
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Well, Jeremy, Joshua and I are going Vietnam on a backpacking trip, from the 4th to the 30th of May. Two ODAC juniors from Batch 15 are joing us - Binh (Vietnamese guy, hurray!) and Shiying. (Bossy noisy ex-chairwoman who reminds me of Sywei. hurray.) Also two of Shiying's friends (pair of twins from HCJC's Tahan whatever) are tagging along. Don't know if they are staying the whole trip, but some softie like Jery will prolly suffer from an attack of conscience if we dumped them along the way. If the motley crew sounds surprising, it's because me and jery met Shiying during this year's BTC. (Our 6th, amazingly enough. 6 consecutive BTCs...) Hence the assortment of Shiying-tagalongs. But Vietnam guy is a real gift. Translations! Free lodgings at Hanoi! Intros to dubious food! (Duck embryo? Cat and dog meat?) As for the twins I haven't got much to say about them so far. They look pretty....similar. Erm, and nice too I suppose.

We're going from South to North, flying in Saigon, flying out Hanoi. Along the way we hope to climb Fan Si Pan, Vietnam's tallest mountain at around 4000m I think. Wish us luck. At least we're old unfit people doing something instead of old unfit people rotting behind a comupter screen. ahaha.

My first backpacking trip, my first trip in a small group (not as small as originally envisioned), and my first trek for helluva long time. I'm looking forward to it. Kinda miss the old days.

Here's to good dog meat, not stepping on mines, beautiful photos, merciless taidi hands (okay it's not the hands...), and scorching wet summer days. Hopefully.

Joshua you owe me 300 pushups. ahahaha.

Weikai
Tue Apr 24 23:38:55 2001 GMT
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How come no one offers to buy my ICQ no.?? Harhar I would have gladly sold for USD100, or maybe I'll bargain for more
Nope, Haoyang, to adelaide or melbourne would be more than a short sojourn. In that period of May I would have no public holiday watsoever to join you there either. Anyway, it's okay, have fun yourself! Just give me a call when you arrive (since it's cheaper to call from Aus to Aus)
I heard that some of us are going for a Vietnam trip? Is that right? C'mon, update us!

Xiufeng
Tue Apr 24 14:00:25 2001 GMT
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Hi! Good luck to all those in the midst of the exams now! I would be back late July...will u guys still be in s'pore???

Haoyang
Tue Apr 24 13:30:47 2001 GMT
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hullo pple
in the midst of my exams right now...together with HQ...gonna end soon tho...by this fri...the NUS pple should be done by now right?
feeling a lil of the strain from a 4 papers in 4 days marathon.
Weikai, i wun be passing by sydney...my frds decided to stick to melbourne and adelaide. will be there from 14 to 25 may....so will u be free for a short sojourn to adelaide or something then?

yo overseas pple...coming back in july? great...can all catch up again...but HQ and I would be busy with some freshmen camps....
anyway...hope to see u guys again soon...damn stoned out now

Xinyan
Mon Apr 23 13:49:01 2001 GMT
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Some danish guy offered to buy my icq UIN for US$100, lol. I refused him.

ok, another dirty joke. this one doesn't need any thinking:

A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves, and engage in animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them ignores their conversation at first, but she listens in horror as one of the men says the following; "Emma come first. Den I come. Two asses, dey come together. I come again. Two asses, dey come together again. I come again and pee twice. Then I come once-a more." "You foul-mouthed swine," retorted the lady indignantly. "In this country we don't talk about our sex lives in public!" "Hey, coola down lady," said the man. "Imma just tellun my friend howa ta spella Mississippi."

Weikai
Mon Apr 23 03:42:23 2001 GMT
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A bit of update to my website: weikai.hypermart.net.

Weikai
Sun Apr 22 07:20:37 2001 GMT
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Just to announce that I'm back in Sydney once again, to continue my stint of work. Two more months to go, and I'll be on my way touring other parts of Sydney and Melbourne and Tasmania .

Those having exams, don't stress! Always look to the end of it....very motivating

Siwei thanks for the explanation...I did think of that but thought maybe there's a deeper interpretation. My standard for dirty jokes is pretty high harharhar. Seen too much already. So, Xinyan, more please!

Chunda
Sat Apr 21 07:38:02 2001 GMT
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Yes, I'm having exams in less than two weeks. Yes, I am dying from homework and a huge backlog of learning to do. Yes, I will be doing summer school and will be back in July. Yes, I think we should arrow someone to organize a batch get-together in preferably early July or late August. Yes, I get the last joke and would like to hear more from Xinyan. Yes, SDU needs to take a marketing 101 class to make its pitch better and Penny will do a fantastic job. Yes, I am taking a short break writing here at 3.30am in the morning. Yes, I am a bit stressed. =)

Wenyi
Fri Apr 20 17:37:36 2001 GMT
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Alvin wrote: "Thresa". Doing a Xinyan I see.

Siwei
Fri Apr 20 03:06:09 2001 GMT
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I have ideas on how to make more people join.... =) Namely tell them to stop including in their orientation talk statistics about how many couples who met through SDU got married, how many babies were born etc, and stuff about how your duty towards the country is to procreate blah blah blah...

Penny
Fri Apr 20 00:28:08 2001 GMT
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I'll be back for summer in July too, so hopefully can meet you all then. Oh guess what, I managed to find a job attachment this year, with SDU! Hehe, yup, SDU.. supposed to be doing some research on how to make more people join. Anyway, exams will be in less than 2 weeks, urgh.. anyone else dying too???

Siwei
Thu Apr 19 23:01:38 2001 GMT
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THis is ironic.. Weikai doesn't get that joke and I do.. something's a little weird here.. either Denise (erm.. is it spelt with an 's' or a 'c'?) has cleaned out his brain, or COrnell hasn't been too good for me. =P
Anyway.. Weikai.. the question is "Which CAME first, the chicken or the egg?" Geddit? geddit? If you don't by now, you're definitely a changed man. =)
Hey.. I'm not staying here for summer anymore.. so I should be back in Singapore by late May. =)

Jason
Thu Apr 19 02:28:05 2001 GMT
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I always do??? I guess that's because I don't want to "eat up" my project partner. She is driving me crazy by not doing constructive work.

hmm... I guess it's time to select the targets... we will shoot the arrow --> soon =)

Weikai
Thu Apr 19 00:41:58 2001 GMT
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Harhar Jason I realise you always do sanity checks whenever you are having school. Wooohoo Xinyan more jokes please! But I don't 100% get the humour in the previous joke. Enlighten pls?

I wanna visit Tay too, but I'll only be back in July. Hey...isn't it the time of the year to do that traditional archery.....to arrow someone for the OP NOS organiser! Ok any nominations? I volunteer HQ!

Jason
Wed Apr 18 16:46:14 2001 GMT
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Yup. I want to visit Mr Tay too. Went back to RJ last summer (with Chunda) but didn't get to see him. Must catch him this time. And we must get together to play soccer too (the Odac "vision" =D)

2 1/2 weeks of school, 1 more month to go. Then I will be back to serve the country. Let's hope I can keep my sanity till then.

Alvin
Wed Apr 18 14:47:07 2001 GMT
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Hiya... been busy with my holiday coursework =( I've got a few tutorials and an essay to go, and it's only 7 weeks till exams. Penny very poor thing - her wxams are starting soon and she has been looking really stressed

Hey Thresa... did you experience any earthquakes in NZ? NZ is suposedly a hotspot for tectonic activity, albeit a relatively safe one. And skydiving is so fun =) I've never tried anything like that b4, not even bungee jumping. And what is it about Singaporeans that make them sound so angry? It'll be quite sad if we're stuck in bad attitude country, and can't go anywhere else 'cos of racism and xenophobia. My friends regularly complain about Sheffield, Leeds, and especially France. I haven't experienced anything really bad b4, so I won't really know how it feels to be on the receiving end. One can do without that kind of experience.

Yep XinYan... some pple are unreasonable and deserve abit of ticking off. But no need to go too far sometimes. We all already know you're a Singaporean =)

HY... you know, I also wanted to get thru my 1st yr exams in one piece. Now I only want to get thru my 2nd yr exam in one piece =)

Wow... where were the photos taken? They're nice =) Wen and Alan even dressed up for the occasion =) Hehe.... and HQ, I'm surprised you had time to think about HY's action-packed month, considering that your thoughts should be very occupied already =) Anyway, you only wrote a couple of lines and you call that rambling? Should refer to past entries for the standard length of a 'rambly' entry =)

Anyway, I'm happy, as we all are, that HQ had a fabulous b'day, and has someone special in his life (finally!) =) How we have waited long and hard for this day, and other neat stuff like that =) The first one (and perhaps last?) is always a special one... does anyone think so? I think it's important to choose your stead carefully, otherwise all you do is rack up your score, but with nothing really fulfililng to show for it.

And Yvonne... what you mentioned about the male n female perspective on love sounds reasonable. If I ever get caught cheating on my wife, I'll be sure to bring that up... "A long time ago, my friend Yvonne told me blah blah blah... ) Glad you're looking forward to your studies. It takes a special kind of person to be a doctor =) And the ODAC guys were never that bad! Right, guys?? =) Those with the bouquets rather than the stalks... good for them! Good for their florists too! =) When in Singapore, I only buy flowers from my florist in Orchard Road. Making nice bouquets is an art, and you'll definitely want someone you can rely on =) The recipe for everlasting happiness with your loved one includes lots of flowers... lots and lots... especially on wedding night =)

And I know why Penny wants to see more photos! =)
1>She's been studying hard and deserves a reward
2>It's unfair cos we all know how her boyfriend looks =)

I'll be trying to make edible WanTon noodles later =) The WanTon pastry skin here is thicker and tougher than the kind you get back home. Not as tasty but it's all we poor Londoners got =( I've got a friend coming over to join my household for dinner, and I was thinking of giving her a nice red tulip as a surprise =) But after reading the recent entries, seems like it's quite the norm after all, no?

And I save the best for last... My primary purpose for posting an entry was to suggest paying Mr Tay a visit when we're all back home. Any1 interested??? It'll be nice lor =) I haven't seen him for a couple of years... I only just missed him on Pulau Ubin last year during my 21 day OBS course... met Siew Boon that day though =)

Xinyan
Wed Apr 18 14:10:07 2001 GMT
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Was tt previous dirty joke funny? Shall i post another?

Penny
Mon Apr 16 18:04:56 2001 GMT
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Yeah, I want to see girlfriends' photos too! Hmmm, and boyfriends photos too?

Chunda
Sun Apr 15 21:45:56 2001 GMT
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Happy Birthday Huaquan!

Nice to see some old faces...
But where are the g/f photos? =P

Yvonne
Sun Apr 15 16:55:51 2001 GMT
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well they say that for males... physical attraction is pretty dissociated with emotional attraction... ie... you can be physically attracted to one and yet feel no emotional attachment at all.... thats the excuse man give to their wifes when they've been found to be cheating on them.... and thats why they say that when a wife cheats on her husband its worse coz there is an emotional attachment she has with the guy and its not pure physical... satisfying of desires watever... oh well... not that i agree with this line of thought.... but there are some truth to it.... at least the female parts....
just saw for the first time a caesearean section last week... it was beautiful... at the beginning the OT was just so quiet n peaceful.... with a pregnant mother lying on the table with ehr big belly.... the doctor makes a quick cut at her lower abdomen... pierces the water bag.... which just bursts literally..... he reaches in and just pulls out this dusty grey baby..... a tiny little thing... who just starts crying.... n as it crys it just turns redder n redder till you are left with this lil pink baby.... it was sooo unreal... its so amazing that a living baby could be in that big belly.... and even more amazing when i look into a mirror and think about how ive grown from that dusty grey lii one lying on her mum's lap..... next june i'll be having to deliver babies with midwives assistance.... pretty scary.... but im looking forward to it.... it'll be quite an experience.....
thursday dinner n coffee was great.. haven't seen you guys for quite a while... n i really enjoyed myself so much.... hey the odac guys have changed... every single attached male that night was carrying a stalk or bouquet of flowers for their respective girlfriends.... its a sweet sight.....

Xinyan
Sun Apr 15 16:08:49 2001 GMT
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Easter joke

A Chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is leaning against
the headboard smoking a cigarette, with a satisfied smile on its face.

The egg, looking a bit pissed off, grabs the sheet, rolls over, and says,
"Well, I guess we finally answered THAT question."

Howeyang: tt pissing thing, tell u next time we meet

Jason
Sun Apr 15 13:10:32 2001 GMT
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Happy Belated Birthday HQ!
Here are the links to your birthday photos
1 2 3 4

Good Luck to everyone having exams!

Huaquan
Sun Apr 15 11:59:12 2001 GMT
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uploaded some pics from my bdae celebration... erm... but i got no idea how to access them... hmm... weikai can help? my exams are literally juz round the corner and i cant seem to get down to some serious mugging... am pretty much resigned to not doing spectacularly well this sem... but then ... i never did expect to anywayz...=P the welcomed changes to my life have dominated my tots these days... plus HY's past month of action... which the gang tt turned up was treated to some juicy details... am rambling... hiaz. sigh sigh sigh... been doing lots of tt... getting chided by everyone for not mugging ... more sighing... exams in 9 days time. watz happening? everything juz seems so beyond my control... juz feel so helpless... but... it was a great bdae...=) was great to meet up with friends... celebrate with my girl... and my family... my best bdae ever actually...=) thanx to my girl especially... =) gd luck to one and all for the exams...=)

Weikai
Sun Apr 15 01:42:25 2001 GMT
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Yes I'm BACK! Back since Thursday, been stuffing myself with local food and durian and all. Exams catching at your heels really quick huh? Thank god I'm exempted this semester. Anyway, don't think I can meet up with you guys this time round cos of the bad timing, but I may just pop by NUS/NTU your halls and say hi. I'll be leaving again real soon, on Saturday 21st.
HQ, hope you had a good 22nd.

Haoyang
Sat Apr 14 17:19:21 2001 GMT
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been staring at xinyan's piss-me-off entry for the past few days and it really made me intrigued...so xinyan...lest we forget to ask you the next time...what really did piss you off? sounds like another episode of under one roof in boon lay? albeit a not so friendly one...

anyway, the exams are coming up real soon, and hope that we all get thru these damn exams in one piece...

welcome back weikai!..u've been missed...and where's my souvenir?

HQ...where are your bday photos?...want to see them.

Xinyan
Wed Apr 11 15:58:21 2001 GMT
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yeah, theresa, singaporeans got attitude problem hor? always so pissed, pisses me off too. remind me to tell uall the latest piss-me-off thing in my life hor.

Theresa
Wed Apr 11 14:16:02 2001 GMT
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..feel not felt....wrote it initially in the first person and when I changed it to the 2nd I overlooked that....so all the english polizei......

Theresa
Wed Apr 11 14:02:09 2001 GMT
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hi there. Just to say that the physical attraction often comes about as a result of emotional attraction. You don't go about lusting after people on the mrt right? Or okay, say if you do, the lust there is short-lived, while that which you wish to satisfy with your partner is something totally different, it reinforces your emotional attachment. So weikai, even with physically unattractive people, i'm sure they are very physically attracted to each other, since they are emotionally close. ie, going back to xinyan's statement, sometimes lust is a result. And about the different loves, you don't yearn to share ideals and dreams with your mum right?
skydiving (no relation whatsoever ): I did a tandem one. Was really scared, cos I don't like the feeling of free-fall. The worst part was just before jumping out of the plane, I saw the huge expanse of land and lake 12000 feet below and wondered why on earth I was doing this. But after you jump the wind is rushing past so fast you felt suspended by it. During the initial first 15 seconds (of free-fall) everything is moving really fast, then the parachute opens and you float slowly down and feel really high. There's this amazing spread below you and the sun shining on it. Yes it was steep but I figured it's something I wanted to do especially since I was so scared. Also, it's cheaper there than in other places. And the last reason was I thought I might get wimpier as I grew. So, no time like the present.
xinyan: yes i was speaking about nz. Was referring to the earlier entries where a few peope were saying that new places aren't as great as they sound. That's how I felt at first too, especially with homesickness, but after time and adapting to it the beauty of the place and people really got me. It's far less stressful and the people there take pleasure in simple things. The first week I came back I was wondering why everyone was so angry.
About the language, i don't think it was a matter of being offended at all. =)

Weikai
Tue Apr 10 21:28:15 2001 GMT
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A little sidetrack here:
When you have legs, you tend to appreciate life a little less than those without. Ever noticed that people born without legs are much stronger people, they never give up.
So PA sometimes may make you take things for granted and miss the beautiful sides of EA and love......if you know what I mean.

I'm not saying definitely or all the time, but yeah, sometimes it happens.

Weikai
Tue Apr 10 21:11:41 2001 GMT
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Yes most of the time love comprises of emotional and physical attraction. But what I'm saying is I believe love still stands as love with only emotional attraction. Let's say emotional attraction = EA and physical attraction = PA. Thus Love = EA + PA. But it is possible that Love = EA. Not that much that Love = PA alone. If it's just PA then it's not love, it's crush, lust, craving, whatever.
Wen, the way I love my mum, yes, is different from loving Denise, but lust is only a small part of the difference. It's a different care, different feeling, different standpoint. The former is from a son who wants to take care of her through her old age and to show his gratitude to her unselfish love. The latter is from a man who wants to provide for her and care for her just because of that emotional connection. PA comes in through crevices here and there.

Yes given a choice everyone would love legs. I'm just saying you can survive without them. If PA is so essential a part of love, I don't see how ugly (very ugly) people can get attached and all..... EA is the one that dominates in their cases.

Idealistic? Maybe...but I'm trying to veer slightly off the conventional course of love and bring up the minority but more romantic side of it, which I think, exists.

Wenyi
Tue Apr 10 17:14:23 2001 GMT
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Sure, love can exist without lust! But is it romantic love of the sort we're talking about, that is the question...

Put it this way: What differentiates romantic love from love? The way you love a partner with the way you love your mum?

ahahaha

Huaquan
Tue Apr 10 14:05:53 2001 GMT
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gonna give my 2 cents worth about this love vs lust thingy. am for the view that lust is an integral part of love. as a fren of mine in CS put it very nicely... Love comprises of 2 parts. tt of emotional attraction and physical attraction. Love cannot be if these 2 elements are not present. if u love someone for his/her character, personality, compatibility with u and there is no physical attraction... u wld haf a really strange relationship. putting it another way... love wldnt be wat it is if u didnt feel any physical attraction, cuz its part of the loving, the showing of affection. i wld gladly choose life with legs than w/o any day noe... =P

Alvin
Tue Apr 10 13:03:50 2001 GMT
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Hiya! My sis just told me she's got 2 HRC shot glasses for me... One from Seoul and another from HK, so.... I guess it wouldn't hurt to have one from Sydney as a present huh?? (hint hint....) I get so many limited edition beanie toys from UK for her anywayz Yah, it is abit distasteful but I also think that lust is an integral part of love. It's like that so can't help it lah

Weikai
Tue Apr 10 08:18:51 2001 GMT
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I don't have in depth opinions to voice, but somehow, I think it all depends on the individual and situation. Tho most of the time, lust is inherent in love like Wen said, but I think there can be love without lust.

It's a bit like, we're born with legs, but we can survive without legs. It just takes a genuine will to survive, just like the genuine intention to love. Lust is just something that comes along with it.

Wenyi
Tue Apr 10 04:38:07 2001 GMT
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Howie: If I'm reading you right you mean to say that lust and love are separate issues? That you can have lust with love, or lust without love - in 2 versions, fulfilled and unfulfilled. Lust is inherent in the individual, love one of the possible consequences.

My take is that lust is inherent in the love.

Simply put: If lust and romantic love are such easily compartmentalized issues, why not love one person and lust after another? Have a relationship with someone and pack your unfulfilled lust to the afore-mentioned sex worker? If this goes against the concept of love, then clearly lust (monogamous variety) is an integral part of love.

It's somewhat of a distasteful thought to some that something as reviled as simple animal lust is so core a part of love but I think that is only due to an undeserved bad-rap on the part of lust.

I mean, it's built-in, can't change it, might as well enjoy it.

Of course, I mean the monogamous variety, not the commercial one. ahaha.

I think Gramps would've given everyone a earful for their bad language if she went for NS. Good thing you didn't take up one of those scholarships, eh.

Weikai
Mon Apr 9 21:32:21 2001 GMT
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No worries Haoyang. I never believe in censoring the conv cos our own people write in it. Never would batch 12 write offensive stuffs primarily meant to be offensive. With that knowledge I have of you, yep I didn't take your passage in the lewd or act-cool sense. So I think your entry should stay unless some of us feel not.... (and actually your entry does make some sense )

Ah, Siwei, after your explanation, Alvin's proposition makes sense to me.

Anyone find the ODAC mailing list is sort of abused? I don't really mind til now, but sometimes I get irked by mundane and meaningless emails...particularly the WWF ones.

Haoyang
Mon Apr 9 16:21:21 2001 GMT
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siwei..
it was just a purely tongue in cheek poke at the issue.
I am not trying to be cool. I'm past that "trying to be cool and macho" phase. That's just a side of me that you don't see or haven't seen. I'm sorry if i've offended you. If it's really irksome...Weikai...u can just remove it...

Siwei
Mon Apr 9 15:38:10 2001 GMT
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What's wrong with your language, Haoyang??? Using that word doesn't make you cool you know. Just cause you put stars instead of the actual letters doesn't mean much.

Haoyang
Mon Apr 9 14:29:59 2001 GMT
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hmm...here's what i make sense of the whole lust and love issue...

Since MAN (no gender specifics here) is essentially sexual in nature, lust exists in all of us whether we like it or not. Lust is not necessarily always the precursor to love, but granted, it is not a bad one either. Because lust, when controlled and channelled towards the right people (not sez-service providers) is probably the most primal and understated force that drives a person towards another member of the opposite (or same for that matter) sex, we cannot deny it's efficacy in certain situations that may exist.

Love then, is one of the many possible outcomes that may occur as you actualise that lust. One of the other outcomes is that you may actually consummate that lust and simply have a f***ing good time. Period. But this would require an adequate level of lust on the other person's part too. OR you can always have that f***ing good time and still have love.

Be mindful of the last and most extreme consequence when you have unbridled, uncontrolled lust that is also, unfortunately unconsummated simply because the other person thinks you are a loser.
In such instances, you do not have even the sniffle of a possibility of that f***ing good time...but you can also kiss the possibility of love goodbye. In such cases, you mostly end up with a big f***ing pile of shit and really...it's just time you packed up your lust and moved elsewhere.

Siwei
Mon Apr 9 02:31:54 2001 GMT
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He means that if he only gets the shot glasses from the places that he visits, he can only get that many, but if he asks everyone to get one for him, he'll be buying alot more, so it's more expensive. Basically trying to curb his spending, I guess. =P

Weikai
Mon Apr 9 00:11:16 2001 GMT
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I think lust is part (large or small will depend) of love, thus love encompasses more. And attraction not equals lust.
Hey Alvin, I don't understand why it is less manageable and more expensive if I get the Sydney ones for you since I'm in Sydney anyway. But well, I'm not complaining.
And yes, sorry for the repetition, but I'll be back in Singapore soon. HAPPY!

Wenyi
Sun Apr 8 02:56:25 2001 GMT
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If you were born in the 40s then you'd be freaky old by now. Not to mention being born in the war years might be detrimental to your health. Poor nutrition might prevent you from reaching your full adult height.

Anyway if lust was the reason for love I think commercial sex is hell of a more trouble-free way to satisfy it. What, all that trouble, just for lust???

Alvin
Sat Apr 7 13:53:31 2001 GMT
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Hiya! Thanks for the offer Tweek I'll just get the ones from the Cities I've visited so it'll be more manageable Not to mention cheaper!

Xinyan
Sat Apr 7 11:05:24 2001 GMT
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Wenyi: how about lust being the reason and love the result?

And well I would have preferred to be borned in the '40s, then I would have been in my 30s in the '70s, when the feminist movement was at its peak. Now it's just a whole lot of mess.

Wenyi
Fri Apr 6 16:58:49 2001 GMT
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Oh by the way, Hq:

I don't see the whole "in this day and age" point. Everyone and their mum harks back to this supposed golden age where life was simple and peaceful and beautiful. I don't know what time they are talking about, exactly. I mean, Adam and Eve were the only two people in the world and STILL they screwed it up.

I don't think education, love, politics, movies, tv, reading habits, or whatever were significantly better in the past.

But anyway, you've got problems of your own so...

Wenyi
Fri Apr 6 16:49:29 2001 GMT
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She said "Teresa" because that's what everyone calls her, but she secretly prefers "Theresa" but mysteriously never tells anyone that. Strange, eh.

To say that love is lust seems simplistic. I think lust is a necessary but not sufficient condition of romantic love.

Xinyan
Thu Apr 5 16:32:42 2001 GMT
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Wenyi: really? i got confused i think coz i remed asking theresa how to pronounce her name, whether it was theresa with a h or without. come to think of it, if it din have a h i wouldn't have asked her in the first place right?

weikai: haha.

sywei: i think love (as in the romantic kind) is a nicer word for lust.

weikai: ok fine. actually i subscribe to a dirty jokes mailing list
and i think u used tt expression "take it with a pinch of salt" wrongly here right? i tot it means not to believe something totally

Weikai
Thu Apr 5 09:09:39 2001 GMT
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Okay take a breather from the love love issues. Got a dirty joke here that I find quite funny. The batch pervert still hasn't change a bit. Take it with a pinch of salt!

One day the president of a company calls in Dave, the vice-president. He
says, "Dave, you have to lay off either Jack or Nicole." Dave says Jack has
three kids and Nicole is his best worker, but the boss will hear none of it.

So the next day Dave sits waiting for Jack and Nicole to show up for work.
Nicole gets there first, and Dave says, "Look, I have a problem. I either
have to lay you or Jack off."

"Well, Dave," Nicole says, "You'd better jack off, because I have a
headache."

By the way I will be back in Singapore from 12 April to 21 April! Visa renewal...

Siwei
Thu Apr 5 03:18:24 2001 GMT
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I just realised that in the space of one or two sentences, I've used three "anyway"s..

Siwei
Thu Apr 5 03:17:39 2001 GMT
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It's ok, Huaquan.. ramblings are fine. Can understand why, anyway... I'm sure you're not alone, anyway... most people probably haven't been able to come to any conclusion about that, anyway.

Huaquan
Wed Apr 4 20:41:15 2001 GMT
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What is Love? This qn has been on my mind since the moment I got attached. Does the concept of Love haf to be the same between 2 pple for them to be together? How different cld it possibly be? is there such thing as a self-centered version? is there a selfless version? In our day and age... is there such thing as true love? or are we all joining together simply for the sake of companionship? When u truly love someone, doesnt tt someone have to have ur complete trust? does loving someone mean simply caring for that person? wanting to be with tt person? wanting the best for tt person? wanting to share ur life with that person? wanting tt person to be happy? and if it were all of the above? wat happens when these wants get in the way of each other? which 'want' do we choose then? sorrie for the rambling... juz in a terrible state of mind now...

Siwei
Wed Apr 4 19:37:14 2001 GMT
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What is love?... sometimes just really wonder...

Wenyi
Wed Apr 4 08:40:50 2001 GMT
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Haven't read here for some time, just plowed through a whole bunch at once.

Xinyan, after all these years, don't you know that Theresa's name is spelt with a "h"? Good grief.

And Haoyang, "moved to tears"? Sure or not?

Good to hear from everyone. Don't worry it's not just a site for overseas people to grumble about work.

Weikai
Tue Apr 3 23:50:31 2001 GMT
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This may be a little overdue, just got to say some stuffs to HQ:
Isn't falling in love quite an experience? I'm not talking about crushes or puppy love but real heart-felt love (and you'll know it is when you've felt it). I don't think anyone ever had an easy time going through the period of falling in love, despite displaying bliss and happiness. It isn't easy to balance time between a certain beloved individual and groups of treasured friends, I am still having problems with that (but there have been improvements). But if your friends do understand you, no one will blame you. You just got to be answerable to yourself. So, no worries HQ, just know what you want, and go for it. Your friends here will support you whole-heartedly.

Alvin you collect Hard Rock shot glasses? You want Sydney ones? Can get for you =)

Weikai
Tue Apr 3 21:12:20 2001 GMT
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Ho no it doesn't sound stupid cos I only found out a while ago too. There is this shareware called Documents-To-Go which allows you to export word and excel files into mini-word and mini-excel in your palm. But because they are 'minis' so full functionality is not there, but at least u get to do basic editting and viewing.

If you just want to view text files as docs in your palm, get PalmDocs. Basically it sits in Microsoft Word, and when you activate it will convert the document into pdb. Then you can use any palm doc viewer to read it (eg CSpotRun). Third alternatively would be WordSmith which I have yet to try. Try searching for them at www.palmgear.com

Haoyang
Tue Apr 3 18:14:56 2001 GMT
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hey..weikai..
noe this sounds stupid..
but how do u import word docs or excel spreadsheets into your palm?
or how do you save text files as doc files compatible for your palm?

thanks

Alvin
Mon Apr 2 15:36:22 2001 GMT
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Hiya! My trip was great! Had so much fun and saw so many things... and managed to visit 4 Hard Rock Cafes as well! =) Hehe so happie... I figured that since I'm travelling ard so much, might as well start collecting all the Hard Rock Cafe shot glasses =) I've got abt 10 so far, and looking forward to many more! Too bad I didn't get the one from BeiJing during Sec3. Would have made quite a nice addition!

Oh, SyWei was very nice too! =) She lets me disturb her anytime =) So sweet huh? Cornell's very own girl-next-door =) I was so excited to be driving all the way to Niagara Falls and back from Ithaca.... The rented car was a very pretty looking silver and drove beautifully on the highways. Traffic was light and I was cruising at like 140kph =) Would have been nice to have had some company though, but everyone was busy studying so better not distract them too much =) Niagara Falls was absolutely breathtaking. Will post some pics when they're developed =) There're 2 Hard Rock Cafes there on each side of the border. Must be the 2 nearest Hard Rock Cafes in the world, separated only by the Niagara Falls.

Oh ya, I like the new title bar. Very artistic no?

HQ is trying very hard issit? That's good lah =) I alwiz say that girlfriends are a good investment =) How many of you have heard that line from me? =) So HY... have you caught someone's eye as well?? That's great then =) The chase is as, if not more fun than having a girlfriend okie... so dun worrie if things go too slowly or something =) Gotta run now... byez!

Haoyang
Mon Apr 2 13:38:59 2001 GMT
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just felt that i had to put in my roomie's 2 cents worth...
You guys wun noe all the arguments and shouting events we've had this past year...(i was doing most of the shouting anyway...)
and it's been really great....gone thru alot of shit with this roomie of mine..and next year..we are most prob gonna split up...sad...but bo pians...

anyway..like what i told HQ the other nite...I said that he really amazes me...
when i look at HQ and his efforts...i see either an utterly foolish man...who dun noe what's good for him...on the other hand....i see a man so madly in love...so sure of who he wants to be with...i am moved to tears....glad that he's more like the latter....and i really hope that he's gonna be happy...coz that would make me happy too...

anyway...i've been caught up in some action of my own...but it's alot less traumatic and a whole different story altogether....so there...we are all moving along nicely are we?...miss you pple out there...come back quick

Siwei
Sun Apr 1 20:39:38 2001 GMT
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Don't worry, Huaquan... we know that you wouldn't have forgotten ODAC. It's understandable anyway.. everyone has their own lives to lead, their own stuff to wort out. Since she's so important to you, then I'm sure you're efforts are justified. Glad that you think it's a worthwhile experience. Good luck with it, yah? =)

Huaquan
Sun Apr 1 15:12:05 2001 GMT
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Really havent written here in a loooonnnggg time... have really been caught up in things with my girlfriend...=) and i must say i have never learned more about myself than in my past few months with her. Having to open up completely is sth that i have never done before... sth tt i had never been confronted with b4. Guess this seems terribly out of place among all the talk of the overseas pple... but i juz felt like writing... =P Am still in the midst of finding the balance between life together with her and having my own life... I had never had to communicate exactly wat i felt and tot to anyone, and itz been and still is really difficult for me. Never before had i known juz how impt non-verbal communication is ... and how easily it can be mis-interpreted. Never before had I had to be so clear on wat I want, and be putting that into actions. Never before had i felt so not in control of things, of myself, of wat i decide, wat i do, of someone. But I am CERTAIN of one thing... and tt all this is worth every bit of effort i'm putting into it and every moment i spent trying to find tt middle ground to making things work out. Will always be glad for my friends with me during this time. Just hope that u all understand that this is a big part of my life and juz bcus i put the amount of weightage i do on it doesnt mean I'm forgetting everything else in my life... =P

Weikai
Sun Apr 1 08:36:52 2001 GMT
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Thanks Siwei I thought the entries frame should get a larger area so I minimised the area of the top frame. Minimalist concept once again.

I went to the housewarming of Denise Chin from batch 15 yesterday. She is studying in Macquarie University here, and I managed to meet up with her and her friends since last week. You guys should have received emails from her before cos she mails indiscriminately to the odac mailing list very often. That was how I knew she is in Sydney too, which is a blessing actually. At least I'm not that alone anymore. Anyways I took some photos and vids last night, you may want to check it out. The pictures were mostly taken when we were playing truth or dare, thus the bizarre happenings.

Siwei
Fri Mar 30 17:44:40 2001 GMT
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Hey !! I likethe new title bar Thanks Weikai !!

Weikai
Fri Mar 30 14:41:53 2001 GMT
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I will go for the airborne if I get the chance next time. Anyway parachooting and skydiving are a tad different right? At least for sky-diving you get to free fall more and sort of "get used" to the heart-in-throat feeling.

Penny
Thu Mar 29 22:18:13 2001 GMT
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Hi, this is Suzhen. How is everyone? Hope u are all doing well... I'm at Penny's place in London now, and she's very nice.

Haoyang
Thu Mar 29 04:02:12 2001 GMT
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yo weikai...
if u are so interesed in parachuting...why dun u just sign up for the airborne course? it's free..and it adds some color to your chest...

Weikai
Thu Mar 29 00:45:08 2001 GMT
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Harlows Theresa! Finally see you again (well, sort of). You actually tried sky-diving? Is it worth every dollar? Can you describe the experience for me? Thanks.
Alvin, have a nice trip at Cornell. Good time to catch up with friends too. Tell us about your trip yar?
Xinyan, the translator at AltaVista will be helpful. To speak the truth I didn't know what Depuis Quand mean. The translator helped
And er, due to unpopular demand, I shall convert conv back to the original format, in about 10 hours time. Any objections?

Chunda
Thu Mar 29 00:42:31 2001 GMT
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Hey, I'll be at DC catching the cherry blossoms this Saturday. It's a pretty famous festival and lotsa performances to expect. Anyone from Cornell (Alvin perhaps?) going?

Xinyan
Wed Mar 28 16:28:01 2001 GMT
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I mean it looks too impersonal and "all-business". Too neat mebbe? Too squarish, too many boundaries. Too "straight". Okok, I realise I'm being v. loh soh here so will just stop saying the same thing in diff ways.

Teresa, you talking about NZ?

Weikai, I'm trying to learn a bit of French from frens now. Of all tt you wrote, I only understand "Yes, I.....blahblahblah"

Xinyan
Wed Mar 28 16:22:56 2001 GMT
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I'm for the old format. This one looks too www.hardwarezone.com.

Theresa
Wed Mar 28 15:39:56 2001 GMT
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Entries are appearing so fast I can barely catch up. Wrote a reply in my mailbox eons ago to the early entries and added to it as they grew and then it was just way to outdated. Just wanted to say that initially a place seems pretty much like any other when it's still the first few weeks of adjustment, but its character and charm appears after a while. See, no-one remembers what I'm talking about right? Nice photo Siwei, it's really got that in-motion thing.Would love to take up ballroom too. Think I would get vertigo in those shoes Weikai skydiving cost me S$160, apparently it's much cheaper there, and I thought it was pretty much once-in-a-lifetime. Oh, nice format, much easier to read. Oh and I discovered I dislike lab intensely, when graduation is just months away. Suddenly I'm not so sure about my major anymore.

Alvin
Wed Mar 28 06:28:12 2001 GMT
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Forgot to add... Sywei has a very nice room

Alvin
Wed Mar 28 06:27:31 2001 GMT
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Hello! I managed to make it to Cornell Marvin was very nice... He n his friend drove over to pick me up at the bus station at 11pm It was freezing when I got here, and I'll expect it to get worse when I get to Niagara Falls... if I ever make it there that is. Thinking of driving there, but of course someone hasn't driven on the right side of the road b4... Okie... shall surf ard for Hard rock cafe sites and tell u all more abt my trip tomorrow! Byeee

Weikai
Tue Mar 27 21:26:41 2001 GMT
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Really? Hmm yeah the more I look at it the more I feel the old one looks better. Anymore takers?

Oui, Je parle un peu francais...depuis secondaire un. (better don't embarrass myself any further in case Mademoiselle Tay Su Chin reads this and laughs )

Siwei
Tue Mar 27 19:05:09 2001 GMT
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Hi Weikai... =)
I personally prefer the previous one, but this is nice too.. just for a change... blue nice colour too...=) Is it possible to not have the dividing lines? MAkes it look very boxy.. but it's a minor thing lah.. not very impt...
Tu parles le francais? Depuis quand?

Weikai
Tue Mar 27 11:49:36 2001 GMT
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Does this format look better? Just trying it out. Is it more reader-friendly now? If it's not I can revert to the old format.

I am sick of the ugly title bar, tried to design one but not satisfactory. Anyone wants to give a shot at it?

I tried my name at Google and found lots of irrelevant pages. And yes, Christina and her tres bien beau...(broken French, I've not written French for a long time already )

Penny
Sun Mar 25 12:49:11 2001 GMT
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Hehe, I was talking about ESA initially, then don't know why Xinyan brought up Eta... Speaking of google, do you know that if you type in your name, you might just find something about yourself! I tried, and so creepy, you actually do find stuff (amidst lots of junk).

Oh, and I saw Christina yesterday, though we didn't say much cos she had to go. (Hmm, she was with SOMEONE..)

Weikai
Sun Mar 25 12:20:53 2001 GMT
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I did a google search for rjcodac and found a website from a MingFai (who's that?) who was from odac. Then on his website I found this nostalgic gif. Still remember I made it for our startup ODAC webpage. I don't even have this gif on my harddisk already, it was really pleasant to see it again.

Hmm now that Josh mentioned, it's interesting that on every hour at least one of us is looking at the conv. Kinda nice idea....
Siwei you still looked damn fierce in that photo! But nice pose Nice skirt too. So did you win anything from that competition?
Yep Xinyan I went through that the last time, playing pool until wee hours then got to take cab home. Sooo tired and sleepy and broke, but was fun . So where did you guys play this time?
I'm confused, ESA or ETA? Are we talking about two different people here??
And I just caught a rumour: Mr Leong may have a girlfriend already...harharharhar...it's about time!