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Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, General Discussion
Paksa: Re: I Don't Agree with
Bro. Eddie's all Teaching
Kailan Sinulat: February 26, 2004
Hayaan
na ninyo... mahilig ang mga ilan kasi sa salita at balagtasan lamang
katulad ng kanilang kandidato... wala pang plataporma ng gobyerno
hanggang ngayon....
Sa
mga observers ng forum na ito... malalaman at malalaman ninyo kung
sino ang mga talagang warfreak... Napuna ba ninyo kung sino ang
kung ano-ano ang sinasabi? Meron ngang halos magmura eh, basta mairaos
lang ang bias nila kay Eddie Villanueva...
Mga
kabayan, hanapan ninyo ng plataporma... baka magsalita lang ng magsalita
ang mga ito at ang kanilang kandidato pag nakaupo sa puwesto...
Of course, alam naman nating lahat na hindi mangyayari yun... Kaya
lang mabuti na yung nag-iingat at baka magbalagtasan lang sa Malacañang.
Nasaan....
ang plataporma de gobyerno... hinihintay... ng bayan...
Babangon
ang Pilipinas kasi merong napakagandang plataporma!
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, General Discussion
Paksa: Re: I Don't Agree with
Bro. Eddie's all Teaching
Kailan Sinulat: February 26, 2004
...That
is precisely what we are telling you guys. We should be talking
here about the platform of government and how our country should
be able to benefit from it. To listen or not to listen that is the
question, but let us start discussing things that matters most during
the election period.
Have
you read the editiorial of Manila Times dated February 26, 2004?
Hanggang ngayon, wala pang maipakitang plataporma ang mga ibang
kandidato... we don't expect a balagtasan here. We expect responsible
leadership and government and that can only be reflected if a platform
of government has been clearly laid down.
There
will be no answer if there are no questions. Now, if all you guys
would stop hitting religion and focus on political issues here,
then we will gladly help you out and patiently and persistently
show you what they are.
Does
that makes sense?
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, General Discussion
Paksa: Re: Religion, Spirituality,
etc.
Kailan Sinulat: February 26, 2004
Halos
double-post... kaya sagot ganun din.
Wala
na... alam na ng taong-bayan at ng mga nag-oobserve sa forum na
ito ang modus-operandi ninyo. hindi na mabibili yan!
Nakinig
ba kayo ng Dong Puno Live! kagabi? Kaya bang tanungin ng mga kandidato
ninyo ang lahat ng supporters nila na "Sino ang pinilit pumunta
rito?", "Sino ang binayaran para pumunta rito?"...
hehehe...Ii dare them do that. Kayo? Sana naman hindi rin kayo nabayaran.
Kitam,
nakikita sa pag-uugali at buhay... hay nakupo... kita mo 'tong isang
forumer dito na kasama mong bumabatikos, halos magmura at 'di na
yata makausap ng matino.
...paalala
ulit, baka madaganan... babangon na ang pilipinas!
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Whoever Said There
is No Longer Hope?
Kailan Sinulat: February 27, 2004
Hahaha...
ako'y masaya sapagkat ang may tunay na takot sa Diyos ay iniligtas
niya sa mga masasamang hangarin ng kaaway!
Ako
ay malinis ang kunsensya... hindi kilala, hindi binabayaran, at
hindi rin kaano-ano ng kahit na sinong lider o mga officers ng Bangon
Pilipinas. Ako ay isang simpleng mamamayan na may takot sa Diyos,
makasalanan ngunit binago ng Panginoon at ngayon ay nabubuhay na
may pananampalataya na babangon ang Pilipinas lalo na't ito ay pangungunahan
ng isang taong dalawa lamang ang kinatatakutan... and Diyos at ang
kasalanan. Ito ang totoo... let my yes be yes, let my no be no.
If any of the things that i say above is untrue... let God be my
judge and let His judgement be swift. ikaw masasabi mo ba ito sa
iyong sarili??? Oo ba o hindi? Matakot ka kung hindi malinis ang
iyong puso at kunsensya sa mga bagay na ito. Paalala lamang bago
mo gawin yan ay magsisi ka muna... baka katulad ni Ananias ay matumba
ka na lang sa iyong kinauupuan.
You
are the kind of people who refuses to accept reason based on truth,
justice and righteousness. Lahat sa inyo ay mali. Ang punto dito
na inililihis mo na naman ay ang maling interpretasyon mo ng "separation
of church and state". malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw na ang kandidatura
ni Eddie Villanueva ay pinapayagan ng saligang batas.
Aba
nagresearch kang bigla ano... nakalimutan mo si Bondevik ay miyembro
ng isang minority party comprising of only around 30% ng kabuuhan
ng sa parliamentaryo nila. ibig sabihin ay binoto siya ng kahit
na hindi naman niya kapartido. Dito sa pilipinas, ganoon din ang
mangyayari... kahit hindi kapartido ni Eddie Villanueva... boboto
para sa kanya so truth, justice and righteousness will reign in
our country based on a well-thought platform of government.
Hindi
ba't kahit elementary students ay nag-aral na ang Pilipinas ay mayaman
sa natural resources. at hindi lang yun, katulad ng binaggit ko
sa isang post ko, ang Pilipinas rin ay napakayaman sa human resources...
natumbok mo... ang Norway nga ay hindi kasing-dami ng populasyon
sa pilipinas, pero ito ay dapat na isang plus at hindi isang minus
kung ito ay namamanage maigi. Ang india, pangalawa sa pinakamaraming
tao na bansa sa buong mundo... papalusong ang ekonomiya. Ang china
ay papunta na rin sa ganoon... ang Pilipinas, sige nga... saan papunta?
saan napunta matapos ang dalawang Edsa?
Thus
said... oo, nga pala this will be the last post i will do to answer
all those "paikut-ikot" na tanong ninyo... walang katapusan
eh. Nagkakaisa na tungkol dito!
Ika
nga... small things become big to small minds... sorry, kung tinamaan
ka dito ha, pero lalabas at lalabas lang ang tutoo.
Babangon
ang Pilipinas kasi nagsasama-sama ang lahat ng may tunay na malasakit
sa bansa at hindi nakikinig sa mga katulad ng ilan dito sa forum.
For
those whose desire is to bring our country from a long period of
slump... I encourage all of you to read the Bangon Pilipinas platform
of government... hindi kayo magsisisi. sabi nga ng ilan analysts
eh, dapat itong tingnan at pag-aralan ng kahit na sinong manalo
sa pagka-presidente. pero may pananalig tayong lahat sa isang napakagandang
mangyayari sa bayan... Eddie Villanueva para presidente!
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Bro. Eddie's Campaign
Kitty - The Business of Faith
Kailan Sinulat: February 27, 2004
Responding
to a forumer who seem to disguise himself as a valid Villanueva
supporter...
With
all your posts... , I don't think you are sincere with saying ang
mga nandidito ay mapanira sa ibang kandidato... let me clarify...
ang mga naririto ay patuloy na dumidipensa sa mga katulad ninyo...
it is a reality na ang votes ng bayan ay hati-hati.
With
all your posts... halatang-halata na you are not for Eddie Villanueva
from the start. o, baka magka-ideya ang iba diyan ha... magpopost
kunwari ay maka-Eddie V. tapos ayaw na... kasi merong mga dumidepensa
para sa kanya... hindi na uubra yan. Kasi gising na ang mga tao...
alam na ang mapanirang istratehiya ninyo. Kaya nga kayo nandidito
sa forum na ito eh... hindi ba? Kung hindi eh, 'di dapat nanduduon
kayo sa forum ng kandidato ninyo at dumidipensa rin. Hindi kapani-paniwala
ang tinuran mo na you are one of those na hindi pa decided... pero
kung pag-aaralan mo ang plataporma de gobierno ng Bangon Pilipinas
at simulang hanapan ng ganito ang iba pang kandidato ay baka magising
ka...
Ito
ang nauna kong isinulat... ...while you should be focusing
on the platform of government which is our challenge to all of you
since the very start.. ...kaya... walang katotohanan rin ang
iyong mapagkunwaring suhestiyon ...
GISING
NA... BABANGON ANG PILIPINAS KAHIT NATUTULOG PA KAYO!!!
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Why Bro. Eddie Villanueva?
Kailan Sinulat: February 27, 2004
Yeah...
I am always open to constructive criticisms.
Yes,
of course we are a democratic country and we have the right to voice
our opinions. Yet, it is also each one's responsibility to bring
the information to the people... those information that matters
most in this election period. Afterall, this forum and website pertains
to election 2004... and the filipinos' resource for wise suffrage.
So let us focus on the ones that are of real issues here (such as
productivity, the people, the issue of corruption, the family, marriage,
divorce, population management, abortion, form of government and
charter change, impeachment and the death penalty, health, genetically
modified organisms, globalization)... LET US ALL BE RESPONSIBLE.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Winnable Talaga si
Bro. Eddie
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004
With
regards to Eddie Villanueva's winnability... at present wala sa
isip ko na hindi siya mananalo. With more than two months to go
before election day, araw-araw lumalakas, araw-araw dumarami ang
nabubuksan ang kaisipan, araw-araw nadadagdagan ang boboto para
kay Villanueva.
If
we all do our part in our campaign, there will be an overwhelming
victory. At kung sakali namang yung napakaliit na chances na hindi
manalo... katulad ng binanggit ni Dr. Villanueva in front of millions
of viewers ng Dong Puno Live!, ay alam nating nagampanan na niya
ang tungkulin niya sa bayan. It is always the people's choice that
will prevail in an electoral process. Even God will not prevent
this from happening. We will only see its effect in years to come.
Besides his campaign in itself is a very good wake-up call to a
lot of people at napakatalamak na nga ng nangyayari sa Pilipinas
at dapat bumaling sa landas ng katuwiran ang bawat isang nasa pamahalaan.
BABANGON
ANG PILIPINAS!
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: What If Bro. Eddie
Wins This Coming Election...
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004
(Ito
ang isinulat ng isang forumer: "I think if he (referring to
Villanueva) wins (which is unlikely)"... note: perhaps sinfluenced
by surveys...)
Let
us pray to God and persevere in our campaign that it will be "likely"
or perhaps "a sure-win".
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Bangon Pilipinas
National Renewal Moveement
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004
Paalala
sa isang forumer na nagsasabi na ang Bangon Pilipinas National Renewal
Movement ay 'renewal movement' ni Eddie Villanueva...
Paalala
lamang, hindi it renewal movement ni eddie... baka gusto mong basahin
ang unang talata ng deklarasyon or manifesto.
"We
are individuals who have joined together to demand and work for
the redemption of our beloved Philippines from further political,
social, moral, and economic deterioration due to the cyclical
evil of corruption that is deeply embedded in our institutions.
We include all types of people from a variety of racial, economic,
religious and cultural groups. We represent a variety of political
persuasions. We have transcended our differences and joined together
as vigilant advocates of positive change in our society and government."
...this
movement is a collective effort. If you want to be part of it, well
and good. The intentions, as I have read the manifesto, are noble.
If you are not convinced (as you have been), then its your call.
For many though, they know that the people who joined hands in establishing
the movement are dead serious about making such a public statement
alive in the hearts of concerned Filipinos.
BANGON
PILIPINAS! MAY PAG-ASA PA ANG BAYAN NATING MAKAAHON SA PAGKAKALUGMOK.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Are You Praying For
A Good President?
Kailan Sinulat: March 03, 2004
Agreeing
with another forumer who supports Villanueva...
Kasama
mo ako sa mga tinuran mo kaibigan!
Yeah!
Let us work together and be sincere towards national recovery and
sustainability. Let us start anew with the right leadership for
righteousness exalts a nation.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Solution : Bread
of Life - Anit Bro. Eddie?
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004
Directly
hitting a another nasty forumer who consistently dumps garbage on
the forums...
...sa
iyong mga sinasabi eh mukhang ikaw ang bulaang propeta. Ang galing
mong manghula ng mga bagay-bagay... kakaiba.
Ilang
beses mo nang pinauulit-ulit ang ganitong diskusyon at makailang
beses ka na ring sinagot ng ilan sa biblical man na pamamaraan o
lohical na eksplanasyon... ang gaganda nga ng mga sagot eh... pero
as expected walang kuwenta ang mga ng iyon para sa iyo... iba naman
kasi ang layunin mo dito na alam ng ng marami.
Hindi
ba't ang isang sirang plaka ayaw ng pakinggan ng isang tagapakinig?
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Solution : Huwag
Na Lang Pansinin si erap (referring to a nasty forumer)
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004
Huwag
ka ng magtaka kung bakit halos ayaw ka ng pansinin... paulit-ulit
kasi ang pukol mo eh. Kahit nasagot na ng maayos in either a biblical
sense or logical view wala pa rin... iba kasi ang layunin mo...
alam ng ng marami.
Now,
I think each of us have made our point. We can now perhaps focus
on the campaign with a sigh of relief focusing on the platform of
government and the issues of greater importance that has to be addressed
in our country (such as productivity, the people, the issue of corruption,
the family, marriage, divorce, population management, abortion,
form of government and charter change, impeachment and the death
penalty, health, genetically modified organisms, globalization).
Wala
ng makikinig diyan kina erap, atbp. (see above why). Let's now strengthen
our position as far as the platform of government is concerned while
other candidates beat the time to create one (Manila Times Editorial
ang sumulat nito ha dated February 26, 2003... si Villanueva at
Lacson lang daw ang may plataporma).
They're
better off looking at the Bangon Pilipinas platform if they are
running out of ideas. Pati nga mga pakawala ng mga kandidatong ito
ay hindi makapagbigay ng pahayag tungkol sa plataporma de gobierno
ng mga amo nila.
Pardon
my words in serveral instances as they are intended for the masses.
Salita ng masa, mas maiintindihan. Sometimes though, there are points
that has to be emphasized just as what a lot of us did in defense.
That is very commendable!
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's
Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re:
Bro. Eddie's Campaign Kitty - The Business of Faith
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004
My
apologies to some for such generalization ... tao lang po (should
refer only to people who are guilty with dumping garbage in the
forums either with payola or none).
Yet,
I will maintain my position that there are those people who are
not just after providing information or resources to our fellow
Filipinos related to our suffrage... it is evident that there are
those whose goal is to infuse garbage against one just to win people
over. There are different ways to deter it. It is my opinion that
at times certain styles of writing has to be done in order to put
things into perspective... or else, hindi matatapos ang pamimilosopo
ng ilan. However, there are many who are sincere in removing this
type of overtones in the forums. We can make adjustments of course.
Again
what is important is we provide the right information to our people.
Let us all be responsible.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's
Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re:
Bro. Eddie's Campaign Kitty - The Business of Faith
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004
(Ito
ang isinulat ng isang forumer: "Hindi ka myembro ng JIL? Sinong
inuto mo yulz? Katawa-tawa naman talaga ang ideya ng pag-donate
ni Eddie sa sarili nyang simpbahan na sya rin ang head. Maiintindihan
pa namin kung tanggap mo ito dahil isa ka sa mga panayiko ng JIL,
pero kung hindi, parekoy, may matindi kang problema kung hindi mo
nakikita na kalokohan yung kunwaring donation ni Eddie.)
Ang
mapagkunwaring claim ng forumer na ito ay ganito: dati raw isa si
Villanueva sa iniisip niya na bobotohin, ngunit dahil sa "attitude"
ng kanyang mga supporter ay ngayon hindi na.
Is
the above post among the first you did in the forums? Now, I might
be mistaken but it does not seem to substantiate your claim that
you are thinking of Eddie Villanueva as one of your possible candidate
in the first place, just as what I have said in another post. Yet,
it is not too late to know the guy and his platform. Give it a shot...
you won't regret it.
Oh,
and another thing... I don't have to fool anybody around you know.
It
is one's faith that brings him closer to God and not being a member
of an organization such as JIL. It is one's conscience that tells
him what's right and what's wrong. This election period, I do not
appeal to one's belief in God; I appeal to one's conscience teaching
him ot her in ways of righteousness for it is righteousness that
exalts a nation.
No,
I am not a member of JIL.
By
the way, I should include here the post I did on the Roco forum
to give a clear-cut answer to what you have posted there(see
below).
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's
Forum, Raul Roco
Paksa: Re:
:Do You Think Roco Will Win?
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004
This
is a response given to a Roco supporter.
(Quote
from the writer: "I have a particular dislike for yulz's posts
which, out of nowhere and out of contextly, post anti-Roco messages.
And when his post are subjected to logical criticisms, he replies
with name-calling and nonsensical phrases like "pito-pito"
and the the likes, even accusing some of getting paid for posting
anti-Eddie messages.")
As
I was reviewing previous posts, I came across this. The forums was
such a clutter that one can easily miss something important to be
left without an answer.
First
I would like to apologize for whatever misconception there was concerning
my posts. I hope this writing will be able to clarify certain matters.
When
I first joined the forum, just like you, I was very observant and
very frustrated. The first thing I noticed is that most topics under
the Villanueva category are centered on matters related to faith
and not related to suffrage focused on national issues appropriate
for discussion during the campaign period.
You
have mentioned logical criticisms. How can criticism be logical
if it is not in perspective in the first place? As mentioned, we
should be talking here about issues that are of greater importance
to the electorate and not be irresponsible in dumping unrelated
information in the forums.
As
these topics are not found to be fit in the Villanueva category,
it was opined and conveyed to appropriate people to have a closure
of such discussions or at least move these topics to another forum
(there is a Religion, Spirituality, etc. category in this website).
Yet, stubborness seem to be natural to people whose wish is to clog
the Villanueva forum with inappropriate discussions. Questions pertaining
to one's faith were consistently hurled and too tempting to be left
unanswered. However, upon presenting biblical proof and logical
reasoning, these people as expected, just brushed them off and continued
with their propaganda. One even stated something like, bakit
sa iba pa natin pag-uusapan, dito na lang. Some are even
very insulting to one's persona.
Not
just that, I can literally see a lot of posts under the Villanueva
category littered with Roco slogans by the same people. I am not
saying that some Villanueva supporters are not without guilt. But
my decisions are based on my personal observations.
Now,
this went on and on, until it was very obvious for one not to take
some measure to hopefully correct this irregularity.
I am
not sure about the others, yet I remember posting only on one topic
under Roco's category and that is entitled Roco vs. Villanueva
not elsewhere (oh, I just noticed this is a Roco topic... so now
I've posted on at least two topics). As it implies, there will be
people supporting each of them. Questions are raised that require
some answers. The very title of the topic suggests that posts can
really be undesirable against one group or the other. At any of
the candidate's forum, expect supporters to come up with defenses.
That is what I and several others are doing here.
In
basketball, if your opponent does both defense and offense and your
team just do defense, what will happen? Tolerance has a limit; continuously
ignoring unfounded criticisms is not healthy and sometimes lethal.
It is ignorance.
Name-calling
as you have labeled it seem to be in a negative connotation. Even
seasoned writers do this and would often refer to La Gloria as labandera
and Da King as panday. You would even read someone write about Roco's
capability to challenge anyone to a balagtasan and perhaps could
earn him a laurel as a true balagtas. Come on, that is but natural
for writers to do. Check out Max Soliven's writeups.
What
is sometimes detestable are the sudden bursts of emotion and which
are at times almost at the verge of mentioning malicious words as
some Roco supporters are in the habit of doing in the Villanueva
forum. Some posts are even motivated by mischief. Does pitting the
same type of style in a humorous sense to this group did them some
injustice? Certainly not.
I just
wish you have read my thread on why I decided to add humor and spice
to my posts. If you did, you will not be that surprised. By the
way, I will put into serious consideration your suggestion for me
to just sell t-shirts of Eddie Villanueva... but I think I can still
do some posts here from time to time since I think I can do several
things concurrently.
Also,
the term pito-pito is not just a well-known activity of Villanueva
supporters, avid supporters of other candidates (such as Mr. Roco's
loyal supporters posting in this Villanueva forum) are also very
much aware of it. If not, how come they can even post questions
and quote figures pertaining to JIL finances and the like while
not knowing a thing about the 7x7 Bangon Pilipinas strategy?
I have
wondered once if it is possible for people to lose their sense of
humor. Well, it takes the cloud off my mind knowing yeah it is indeed
possible. You only have to read the posts in the forum. I guess
one who is in opposition can't just smile, huh? ;-)
If
you have read the posts of these Roco supporters in the Villanueva
forum, one cannot be naïve in not knowing the real people who
are the real accusers. Giving them a dose of their own medicine
can have its own merit. Regardless of varying opinions, it seem
to be effective.
I do
hope I was able to expound on some issues you raised directed at
me. I hope you were not serious when you mentioned you've lost interest
in supporting a very credible candidate such as Eddie Villanueva
because you don't consent to the conduct of some of his supporters.
It is just like saying I can't support the president because his
former cabinet member, worse a clerk, was such a jerk. It can be
a sign of immaturity. Don't worry, this is a two-way reproach. We
all learn as we grow.
While
some are honestly perturbed by how the discussions move along, it
is my opinion that those being questioned have to give an explanation
to substantiate their writings or their actions. That is the essence
of this particular post.
Again,
I do hope you will see the things I said here in a positive outlook.
Please accept my sincere apologies if in any way there was a misunderstanding.
yul
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Are You Praying For
A Good President?
Kailan Sinulat: March 03, 2004
To
answer the question in this topic... yes, I am praying for a good
president... and so are millions of Filipinos. That is why with
two months to go, people will come to their senses and choose Eddie
Villanueva for his integrity and sincerity to uplift the nation
using the well-crafted platform of government as a starting point.
...
Marami na ang nagsawa! Galing sa isang pagamutan ang mother ko kahapon
at merong nakilala na isang elderly na devout Catholic. Alam mo
kung ano ang sabi? Si Villanueva ang bobotohin kasi sabi ng mga
anak niya wala ng iba pang mapipili. Gising na kumbaga. Sasama na
sa pagbangon ng Pilipinas.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Opinion: Papaano
Maiiwasan ang Mga Protesta ng mga Matatalong Presidentiables
Kailan Sinulat: March 07, 2004
This
is In reference to the Aksyon Ngayon, Pilipino Star column by Al
G. Pedroche written on March 04, 2004 that we need a neutral presidency
to avoid political bickerings after the elections threatening our
country's economy.
I read
the article again and what the author suggests is for us to have
a neutral president who does not have any political color, has a
workable platform, and has a good reputation. The never-ending political
bickerings puts the country into a slump. This is magnified not
just by the emotions of the candidates but by the emotions of their
supporters as well. In his opinion, we need to have a neutral president
who does not have any political color, has a workable platform,
and has a good reputation to PREVENT this from happening. I can
respect that.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Tama Ba na Slow Down
na Tayo sa Pagsuporta kay Bro. Eddie?
Kailan Sinulat: March 07, 2004
Hindi...
Katunayan, meron
kaming taxi driver na nakausap kanina... Lacson daw siya. Nung maliwanagan
habang kaming pamilya eh nakasakay papunta sa isang mall, ayun at
nagpapasalamat... si Eddie Villanueva na ang kandidato ngayon.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: To All Eddie Villanueva
Supporters
Kailan Sinulat: March 07, 2004
I was
reading a book and came across one truth (that's the way I view
it) that the author speaks of:
"I
don't know all the keys to success, but one key to failure is to
try to please everyone."
Eddie
Villanueva will win not because his supporters can please everyone,
but there will be people who are open-minded and are craving for
real change to happen in the country whom we can convince... the
numbers are growing exponentially each day.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: To All Eddie Villanueva
Supporters
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004
(Ito
ang isinulat ng isang forumer: "'The KEY to SUCCESS is the
SUCCESS KEY and the KEY to FAILURE is the FAILURE KEY'. It's just
as simple and plain as that. how could you miss it ? Isa ka pa naman
chief propagandist.'exponential' lo and behold.... pag sinabi mo
meron kang 2 botante ngayon, pagdating ng halalan ay bilyon botante
na ito kung exponential nga ang growth niyo... aba sino ba ang niloloko
mo ? hindi ako, sana hindi rin yung iba.")
The
book I was referring to (in reference to my previous post)
was a best seller and was read and loved by around 15 million people
and still growing... and I agree with the author. Now, where did
you get your quotation? Haven't heard of it really just now. Perhaps
both authors have differing opinions.
BTW,
I was referring to our strategy... it's exponential in theory and
perhaps in action. You check your math... I did not say how many
levels. Besides it is our goal (to reach millions) and and
7x7 (is our) strategy, remember?
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Is Bro. Eddie Capable
of Being a President?
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004
(Ito
ang isinulat ng isang forumer: "He may be fighting the right
enemies (Villanueva) but is he fighting the correct war?" Apparently
his friend he is trying to convince asked him that question.)
Definitions
of war:
[1]
a concerted campaign to end something that is injurious; "the
war on poverty"; "the war against crime"
[2] the waging of armed conflict against an enemy; "thousands
of people were killed in the war"
[3] an active struggle between competing entities; "a price
war"; "a war of wits"; "diplomatic warfare"
[4] a legal state created by a declaration of war and ended by
official declaration during which the international rules of war
apply; "war was declared in November but actual fighting
did not begin until the following spring"
[5] make or wage war
On
1: There will be no war if there is no enemy. Your friend
mentioned corruption, abuses, etc. If this is the war definition
your friend meant then we can say, Eddie Villanueva is at war with
corruption and at war with abuses, etc.
On
2: You have to define terms with your friend as he seem
confused as to the meaning of war in this context in contrast to
the first definition above. This war seem likely as what is being
depicted on the verse he quoted wherein Josiah was killed in an
act of war. This war can mean war against another country or insurgency.
On
3: Each candidate is already at war if we define war in
this context.
On
4: Hope we don't come up with this kind of war just like
Afghanistan and Iraq.
On
5: This is the the verb form of the word "war".
Individuals and groups are constantly at war with something. Evil
against good, poverty against affluence, etc. etc.
Now,
which war are we talking about? You have to define terms with your
friend or both of you will not be able to understand each other.
Just
my two cents.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Bangon Pilipinas,
Malakas ang Fighting Spirit
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004
Ibabalik
ko lang sa talagang layunin ng topic ano po (lumalayo ng lumalayo
dahil sa mga basura na itinatambak ng mga supporters ng ibang partido)...
malakas talaga ang fighting spirit ng Bangon Pilipinas. Katunayan...
mga nagvovolunteer magugulat ka sa dedikasyon. Minsan nagkaroon
ako ng pagkakataon na pumunta sa headquarters ng Bangon Pilipinas...
masarap sa pakiramdam ang makikita mong pagtutulong-tulungan.
Besides
supporters of Villanueva are multiplying. Kitang-kita ito at nararamdaman.
Marami na ang nakakaintindi at naliliwanagan. Dati ang sabi ng iba
kay ganito ako, kay ganito ako... nakakagulat sapagkat matapos ang
paliwanag ay naliliwanagan. Ngayon alam na nila kung sino ang bobotohin...
Eddie Villanueva.
Babangon
ang Pilipinas!
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Bro. Eddie will be
a Good Leader
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004
(Ito
ang sinabi ng isang supporter ni FPJ: "Spin a win !!!!!!!!!")
Eddie Villanueva is a good leader and will continue to be one. His
platform of government is sound and achievable. While just as you
said, "spin a win" is just what it is with some candidates...
kumbaga bahala na ang diyos ng hapon kung ano ang mangyayari pagkatapos
ng halalan.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Si Villanueva ang
Pinakamatalino sa Lahat ng Presidente!
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004
Whether
Villanueva is the most knowledgeable (or one who possess wisdom)
among the presidential candidates or not will remain an academic
question. What is important is he is capable of leading the nation
and that can be mirrored in his platform of government.
Ang
platapormang ito ay hinahangaan ng marami na naging tulay para maniwala
sila na babangon ang Pilipinas.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum,
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Why I switched to
Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Kailan Sinulat: April 07, 2004
With
what happened to our country for two decades after Marcos was ousted
we need an able and neutral presidency.
Our
country was able to take off a few meters from the ground and our
economy was then referred to as the "tiger economy" during
the Ramos administration after the slump during the Aquino revolutionary
government. Yet it was just one brief shining moment and we were
again devastated and with almost no hope to recover. Since then,
we are fighting a battle where no one wins. War will strike us all
dead not in armed combat but in increasing debt and number of people
submerged in poverty.
The
nearest person I thought would fit in the presidency is Roco. Yet,
I weighed him and found him lacking.
That's
it... I'm fed up! At that point I was hopeless and clueless that
one will indeed be raised to lead the nation against the evils in
our society and our government. I have lost interest in the 2004
elections.
Then
good news was spread widely... Eddie Villanueva was contemplating
to run for the presidency. I was excited and still am until this
day.
In
my opinion, a win of any of the other candidates aside from Eddie
Villanueva will cause civil unrest. Villanueva is the only neutral
presidential candidate we have. His leadership will cause an overhaul
in our various systems towards morality.
*******
Isa
akong maralita. Ako ay para kay Bro. Eddie.
Bakit?
Sapagkat kay Villanueva may mas malaking oportunidad na naghihintay
para sa bayan na siyang magiging resulta ng kanyang makabuluhang
programa sa pagbuwag ng korapsyon... Ito ay ang pagtataas ng sahod
ng mga nanunungkulan kapalit ng kanilang matapat na serbisyo at
maaaring pagkakakulong kung naging tiwali matapos ang isang mabilis
na paglilitis.
Ito
ay mangangahulugan na ang maliliit na negosyante ay magkakaroon
na ng patas na laban sa mga bidding at iba pang paraan ng pangangalakal.
Ito ang magdudulot ng maraming trabaho sa ating bansa at magiging
panimula ng matatag na ekonomiya at pagpapataas ng dangal ng bawat
Filipino.
Patas
na laban sa kalakal... ito ang isa sa mga dahilan kung bakit ako
ay para kay Bro. Eddie.
Saan
Isinulat: Election2004.PH, General Election Discussion
Paksa: Re: PRO Eddie Villanueva
Ako
Kailan Sinulat: April 16, 2004
Ako
ay para sa mga maralita at isa ring maralita... ako ay para kay
Bro. Eddie.
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