Mga Sinulat ni Yulz... Suporta at Depensa kay Eddie Villanueva at sa Bangon Pilipinas


Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, General Discussion
Paksa: Re: I Don't Agree with Bro. Eddie's all Teaching
Kailan Sinulat: February 26, 2004

Hayaan na ninyo... mahilig ang mga ilan kasi sa salita at balagtasan lamang katulad ng kanilang kandidato... wala pang plataporma ng gobyerno hanggang ngayon....

Sa mga observers ng forum na ito... malalaman at malalaman ninyo kung sino ang mga talagang warfreak... Napuna ba ninyo kung sino ang kung ano-ano ang sinasabi? Meron ngang halos magmura eh, basta mairaos lang ang bias nila kay Eddie Villanueva...

Mga kabayan, hanapan ninyo ng plataporma... baka magsalita lang ng magsalita ang mga ito at ang kanilang kandidato pag nakaupo sa puwesto... Of course, alam naman nating lahat na hindi mangyayari yun... Kaya lang mabuti na yung nag-iingat at baka magbalagtasan lang sa Malacañang.

Nasaan.... ang plataporma de gobyerno... hinihintay... ng bayan...

Babangon ang Pilipinas kasi merong napakagandang plataporma!

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, General Discussion
Paksa: Re: I Don't Agree with Bro. Eddie's all Teaching
Kailan Sinulat: February 26, 2004

...That is precisely what we are telling you guys. We should be talking here about the platform of government and how our country should be able to benefit from it. To listen or not to listen that is the question, but let us start discussing things that matters most during the election period.

Have you read the editiorial of Manila Times dated February 26, 2004? Hanggang ngayon, wala pang maipakitang plataporma ang mga ibang kandidato... we don't expect a balagtasan here. We expect responsible leadership and government and that can only be reflected if a platform of government has been clearly laid down.

There will be no answer if there are no questions. Now, if all you guys would stop hitting religion and focus on political issues here, then we will gladly help you out and patiently and persistently show you what they are.

Does that makes sense?

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, General Discussion
Paksa: Re: Religion, Spirituality, etc.
Kailan Sinulat: February 26, 2004

Halos double-post... kaya sagot ganun din.

Wala na... alam na ng taong-bayan at ng mga nag-oobserve sa forum na ito ang modus-operandi ninyo. hindi na mabibili yan!

Nakinig ba kayo ng Dong Puno Live! kagabi? Kaya bang tanungin ng mga kandidato ninyo ang lahat ng supporters nila na "Sino ang pinilit pumunta rito?", "Sino ang binayaran para pumunta rito?"... hehehe...Ii dare them do that. Kayo? Sana naman hindi rin kayo nabayaran.

Kitam, nakikita sa pag-uugali at buhay... hay nakupo... kita mo 'tong isang forumer dito na kasama mong bumabatikos, halos magmura at 'di na yata makausap ng matino.

...paalala ulit, baka madaganan... babangon na ang pilipinas!

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Whoever Said There is No Longer Hope?
Kailan Sinulat: February 27, 2004

Hahaha... ako'y masaya sapagkat ang may tunay na takot sa Diyos ay iniligtas niya sa mga masasamang hangarin ng kaaway!

Ako ay malinis ang kunsensya... hindi kilala, hindi binabayaran, at hindi rin kaano-ano ng kahit na sinong lider o mga officers ng Bangon Pilipinas. Ako ay isang simpleng mamamayan na may takot sa Diyos, makasalanan ngunit binago ng Panginoon at ngayon ay nabubuhay na may pananampalataya na babangon ang Pilipinas lalo na't ito ay pangungunahan ng isang taong dalawa lamang ang kinatatakutan... and Diyos at ang kasalanan. Ito ang totoo... let my yes be yes, let my no be no. If any of the things that i say above is untrue... let God be my judge and let His judgement be swift. ikaw masasabi mo ba ito sa iyong sarili??? Oo ba o hindi? Matakot ka kung hindi malinis ang iyong puso at kunsensya sa mga bagay na ito. Paalala lamang bago mo gawin yan ay magsisi ka muna... baka katulad ni Ananias ay matumba ka na lang sa iyong kinauupuan.

You are the kind of people who refuses to accept reason based on truth, justice and righteousness. Lahat sa inyo ay mali. Ang punto dito na inililihis mo na naman ay ang maling interpretasyon mo ng "separation of church and state". malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw na ang kandidatura ni Eddie Villanueva ay pinapayagan ng saligang batas.

Aba nagresearch kang bigla ano... nakalimutan mo si Bondevik ay miyembro ng isang minority party comprising of only around 30% ng kabuuhan ng sa parliamentaryo nila. ibig sabihin ay binoto siya ng kahit na hindi naman niya kapartido. Dito sa pilipinas, ganoon din ang mangyayari... kahit hindi kapartido ni Eddie Villanueva... boboto para sa kanya so truth, justice and righteousness will reign in our country based on a well-thought platform of government.

Hindi ba't kahit elementary students ay nag-aral na ang Pilipinas ay mayaman sa natural resources. at hindi lang yun, katulad ng binaggit ko sa isang post ko, ang Pilipinas rin ay napakayaman sa human resources... natumbok mo... ang Norway nga ay hindi kasing-dami ng populasyon sa pilipinas, pero ito ay dapat na isang plus at hindi isang minus kung ito ay namamanage maigi. Ang india, pangalawa sa pinakamaraming tao na bansa sa buong mundo... papalusong ang ekonomiya. Ang china ay papunta na rin sa ganoon... ang Pilipinas, sige nga... saan papunta? saan napunta matapos ang dalawang Edsa?

Thus said... oo, nga pala this will be the last post i will do to answer all those "paikut-ikot" na tanong ninyo... walang katapusan eh. Nagkakaisa na tungkol dito!

Ika nga... small things become big to small minds... sorry, kung tinamaan ka dito ha, pero lalabas at lalabas lang ang tutoo.

Babangon ang Pilipinas kasi nagsasama-sama ang lahat ng may tunay na malasakit sa bansa at hindi nakikinig sa mga katulad ng ilan dito sa forum.

For those whose desire is to bring our country from a long period of slump... I encourage all of you to read the Bangon Pilipinas platform of government... hindi kayo magsisisi. sabi nga ng ilan analysts eh, dapat itong tingnan at pag-aralan ng kahit na sinong manalo sa pagka-presidente. pero may pananalig tayong lahat sa isang napakagandang mangyayari sa bayan... Eddie Villanueva para presidente!

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Bro. Eddie's Campaign Kitty - The Business of Faith
Kailan Sinulat: February 27, 2004

Responding to a forumer who seem to disguise himself as a valid Villanueva supporter...

With all your posts... , I don't think you are sincere with saying ang mga nandidito ay mapanira sa ibang kandidato... let me clarify... ang mga naririto ay patuloy na dumidipensa sa mga katulad ninyo... it is a reality na ang votes ng bayan ay hati-hati.

With all your posts... halatang-halata na you are not for Eddie Villanueva from the start. o, baka magka-ideya ang iba diyan ha... magpopost kunwari ay maka-Eddie V. tapos ayaw na... kasi merong mga dumidepensa para sa kanya... hindi na uubra yan. Kasi gising na ang mga tao... alam na ang mapanirang istratehiya ninyo. Kaya nga kayo nandidito sa forum na ito eh... hindi ba? Kung hindi eh, 'di dapat nanduduon kayo sa forum ng kandidato ninyo at dumidipensa rin. Hindi kapani-paniwala ang tinuran mo na you are one of those na hindi pa decided... pero kung pag-aaralan mo ang plataporma de gobierno ng Bangon Pilipinas at simulang hanapan ng ganito ang iba pang kandidato ay baka magising ka...

Ito ang nauna kong isinulat... “...while you should be focusing on the platform of government which is our challenge to all of you since the very start..” ...kaya... walang katotohanan rin ang iyong mapagkunwaring suhestiyon ...

GISING NA... BABANGON ANG PILIPINAS KAHIT NATUTULOG PA KAYO!!!

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Why Bro. Eddie Villanueva?
Kailan Sinulat: February 27, 2004

Yeah... I am always open to constructive criticisms.

Yes, of course we are a democratic country and we have the right to voice our opinions. Yet, it is also each one's responsibility to bring the information to the people... those information that matters most in this election period. Afterall, this forum and website pertains to election 2004... and the filipinos' resource for wise suffrage. So let us focus on the ones that are of real issues here (such as productivity, the people, the issue of corruption, the family, marriage, divorce, population management, abortion, form of government and charter change, impeachment and the death penalty, health, genetically modified organisms, globalization)... LET US ALL BE RESPONSIBLE.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Winnable Talaga si Bro. Eddie
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004

With regards to Eddie Villanueva's winnability... at present wala sa isip ko na hindi siya mananalo. With more than two months to go before election day, araw-araw lumalakas, araw-araw dumarami ang nabubuksan ang kaisipan, araw-araw nadadagdagan ang boboto para kay Villanueva.

If we all do our part in our campaign, there will be an overwhelming victory. At kung sakali namang yung napakaliit na chances na hindi manalo... katulad ng binanggit ni Dr. Villanueva in front of millions of viewers ng Dong Puno Live!, ay alam nating nagampanan na niya ang tungkulin niya sa bayan. It is always the people's choice that will prevail in an electoral process. Even God will not prevent this from happening. We will only see its effect in years to come. Besides his campaign in itself is a very good wake-up call to a lot of people at napakatalamak na nga ng nangyayari sa Pilipinas at dapat bumaling sa landas ng katuwiran ang bawat isang nasa pamahalaan.

BABANGON ANG PILIPINAS!

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: What If Bro. Eddie Wins This Coming Election...
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004

(Ito ang isinulat ng isang forumer: "I think if he (referring to Villanueva) wins (which is unlikely)"... note: perhaps sinfluenced by surveys...)

Let us pray to God and persevere in our campaign that it will be "likely" or perhaps "a sure-win".

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Bangon Pilipinas National Renewal Moveement
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004

Paalala sa isang forumer na nagsasabi na ang Bangon Pilipinas National Renewal Movement ay 'renewal movement' ni Eddie Villanueva...

Paalala lamang, hindi it renewal movement ni eddie... baka gusto mong basahin ang unang talata ng deklarasyon or manifesto.

"We are individuals who have joined together to demand and work for the redemption of our beloved Philippines from further political, social, moral, and economic deterioration due to the cyclical evil of corruption that is deeply embedded in our institutions. We include all types of people from a variety of racial, economic, religious and cultural groups. We represent a variety of political persuasions. We have transcended our differences and joined together as vigilant advocates of positive change in our society and government."

...this movement is a collective effort. If you want to be part of it, well and good. The intentions, as I have read the manifesto, are noble. If you are not convinced (as you have been), then its your call. For many though, they know that the people who joined hands in establishing the movement are dead serious about making such a public statement alive in the hearts of concerned Filipinos.

BANGON PILIPINAS! MAY PAG-ASA PA ANG BAYAN NATING MAKAAHON SA PAGKAKALUGMOK.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Are You Praying For A Good President?
Kailan Sinulat: March 03, 2004

Agreeing with another forumer who supports Villanueva...

Kasama mo ako sa mga tinuran mo kaibigan!

Yeah! Let us work together and be sincere towards national recovery and sustainability. Let us start anew with the right leadership for righteousness exalts a nation.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Solution : Bread of Life - Anit Bro. Eddie?
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004

Directly hitting a another nasty forumer who consistently dumps garbage on the forums...

...sa iyong mga sinasabi eh mukhang ikaw ang bulaang propeta. Ang galing mong manghula ng mga bagay-bagay... kakaiba.

Ilang beses mo nang pinauulit-ulit ang ganitong diskusyon at makailang beses ka na ring sinagot ng ilan sa biblical man na pamamaraan o lohical na eksplanasyon... ang gaganda nga ng mga sagot eh... pero as expected walang kuwenta ang mga ng iyon para sa iyo... iba naman kasi ang layunin mo dito na alam ng ng marami.

Hindi ba't ang isang sirang plaka ayaw ng pakinggan ng isang tagapakinig?

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Solution : Huwag Na Lang Pansinin si erap (referring to a nasty forumer)
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004

Huwag ka ng magtaka kung bakit halos ayaw ka ng pansinin... paulit-ulit kasi ang pukol mo eh. Kahit nasagot na ng maayos in either a biblical sense or logical view wala pa rin... iba kasi ang layunin mo... alam ng ng marami.

Now, I think each of us have made our point. We can now perhaps focus on the campaign with a sigh of relief focusing on the platform of government and the issues of greater importance that has to be addressed in our country (such as productivity, the people, the issue of corruption, the family, marriage, divorce, population management, abortion, form of government and charter change, impeachment and the death penalty, health, genetically modified organisms, globalization).

Wala ng makikinig diyan kina erap, atbp. (see above why). Let's now strengthen our position as far as the platform of government is concerned while other candidates beat the time to create one (Manila Times Editorial ang sumulat nito ha dated February 26, 2003... si Villanueva at Lacson lang daw ang may plataporma).

They're better off looking at the Bangon Pilipinas platform if they are running out of ideas. Pati nga mga pakawala ng mga kandidatong ito ay hindi makapagbigay ng pahayag tungkol sa plataporma de gobierno ng mga amo nila.

Pardon my words in serveral instances as they are intended for the masses. Salita ng masa, mas maiintindihan. Sometimes though, there are points that has to be emphasized just as what a lot of us did in defense. That is very commendable!

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa:
Re: Bro. Eddie's Campaign Kitty - The Business of Faith
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004

My apologies to some for such generalization ... tao lang po (should refer only to people who are guilty with dumping garbage in the forums either with payola or none).

Yet, I will maintain my position that there are those people who are not just after providing information or resources to our fellow Filipinos related to our suffrage... it is evident that there are those whose goal is to infuse garbage against one just to win people over. There are different ways to deter it. It is my opinion that at times certain styles of writing has to be done in order to put things into perspective... or else, hindi matatapos ang pamimilosopo ng ilan. However, there are many who are sincere in removing this type of overtones in the forums. We can make adjustments of course.

Again what is important is we provide the right information to our people. Let us all be responsible.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa:
Re: Bro. Eddie's Campaign Kitty - The Business of Faith
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004

(Ito ang isinulat ng isang forumer: "Hindi ka myembro ng JIL? Sinong inuto mo yulz? Katawa-tawa naman talaga ang ideya ng pag-donate ni Eddie sa sarili nyang simpbahan na sya rin ang head. Maiintindihan pa namin kung tanggap mo ito dahil isa ka sa mga panayiko ng JIL, pero kung hindi, parekoy, may matindi kang problema kung hindi mo nakikita na kalokohan yung kunwaring donation ni Eddie.)

Ang mapagkunwaring claim ng forumer na ito ay ganito: dati raw isa si Villanueva sa iniisip niya na bobotohin, ngunit dahil sa "attitude" ng kanyang mga supporter ay ngayon hindi na.

Is the above post among the first you did in the forums? Now, I might be mistaken but it does not seem to substantiate your claim that you are thinking of Eddie Villanueva as one of your possible candidate in the first place, just as what I have said in another post. Yet, it is not too late to know the guy and his platform. Give it a shot... you won't regret it.

Oh, and another thing... I don't have to fool anybody around you know.

It is one's faith that brings him closer to God and not being a member of an organization such as JIL. It is one's conscience that tells him what's right and what's wrong. This election period, I do not appeal to one's belief in God; I appeal to one's conscience teaching him ot her in ways of righteousness for it is righteousness that exalts a nation.

No, I am not a member of JIL.

By the way, I should include here the post I did on the Roco forum to give a clear-cut answer to what you have posted there(see below).

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Raul Roco
Paksa:
Re: :Do You Think Roco Will Win?
Kailan Sinulat: March 01, 2004

This is a response given to a Roco supporter.

(Quote from the writer: "I have a particular dislike for yulz's posts which, out of nowhere and out of contextly, post anti-Roco messages. And when his post are subjected to logical criticisms, he replies with name-calling and nonsensical phrases like "pito-pito" and the the likes, even accusing some of getting paid for posting anti-Eddie messages.")

As I was reviewing previous posts, I came across this. The forums was such a clutter that one can easily miss something important to be left without an answer.

First I would like to apologize for whatever misconception there was concerning my posts. I hope this writing will be able to clarify certain matters.

When I first joined the forum, just like you, I was very observant and very frustrated. The first thing I noticed is that most topics under the Villanueva category are centered on matters related to faith and not related to suffrage focused on national issues appropriate for discussion during the campaign period.

You have mentioned logical criticisms. How can criticism be logical if it is not in perspective in the first place? As mentioned, we should be talking here about issues that are of greater importance to the electorate and not be irresponsible in dumping unrelated information in the forums.

As these topics are not found to be fit in the Villanueva category, it was opined and conveyed to appropriate people to have a closure of such discussions or at least move these topics to another forum (there is a Religion, Spirituality, etc. category in this website). Yet, stubborness seem to be natural to people whose wish is to clog the Villanueva forum with inappropriate discussions. Questions pertaining to one's faith were consistently hurled and too tempting to be left unanswered. However, upon presenting biblical proof and logical reasoning, these people as expected, just brushed them off and continued with their propaganda. One even stated something like, “bakit sa iba pa natin pag-uusapan, dito na lang”. Some are even very insulting to one's persona.

Not just that, I can literally see a lot of posts under the Villanueva category littered with Roco slogans by the same people. I am not saying that some Villanueva supporters are not without guilt. But my decisions are based on my personal observations.

Now, this went on and on, until it was very obvious for one not to take some measure to hopefully correct this irregularity.

I am not sure about the others, yet I remember posting only on one topic under Roco's category and that is entitled “Roco vs. Villanueva” not elsewhere (oh, I just noticed this is a Roco topic... so now I've posted on at least two topics). As it implies, there will be people supporting each of them. Questions are raised that require some answers. The very title of the topic suggests that posts can really be undesirable against one group or the other. At any of the candidate's forum, expect supporters to come up with defenses. That is what I and several others are doing here.

In basketball, if your opponent does both defense and offense and your team just do defense, what will happen? Tolerance has a limit; continuously ignoring unfounded criticisms is not healthy and sometimes lethal. It is ignorance.

“Name-calling” as you have labeled it seem to be in a negative connotation. Even seasoned writers do this and would often refer to La Gloria as labandera and Da King as panday. You would even read someone write about Roco's capability to challenge anyone to a balagtasan and perhaps could earn him a laurel as a true balagtas. Come on, that is but natural for writers to do. Check out Max Soliven's writeups.

What is sometimes detestable are the sudden bursts of emotion and which are at times almost at the verge of mentioning malicious words as some Roco supporters are in the habit of doing in the Villanueva forum. Some posts are even motivated by mischief. Does pitting the same type of style in a humorous sense to this group did them some injustice? Certainly not.

I just wish you have read my thread on why I decided to add humor and spice to my posts. If you did, you will not be that surprised. By the way, I will put into serious consideration your suggestion for me to just sell t-shirts of Eddie Villanueva... but I think I can still do some posts here from time to time since I think I can do several things concurrently.

Also, the term pito-pito is not just a well-known activity of Villanueva supporters, avid supporters of other candidates (such as Mr. Roco's loyal supporters posting in this Villanueva forum) are also very much aware of it. If not, how come they can even post questions and quote figures pertaining to JIL finances and the like while not knowing a thing about the 7x7 Bangon Pilipinas strategy?

I have wondered once if it is possible for people to lose their sense of humor. Well, it takes the cloud off my mind knowing yeah it is indeed possible. You only have to read the posts in the forum. I guess one who is in opposition can't just smile, huh? ;-)

If you have read the posts of these Roco supporters in the Villanueva forum, one cannot be naïve in not knowing the real people who are the real accusers. Giving them a dose of their own medicine can have its own merit. Regardless of varying opinions, it seem to be effective.

I do hope I was able to expound on some issues you raised directed at me. I hope you were not serious when you mentioned you've lost interest in supporting a very credible candidate such as Eddie Villanueva because you don't consent to the conduct of some of his supporters. It is just like saying I can't support the president because his former cabinet member, worse a clerk, was such a jerk. It can be a sign of immaturity. Don't worry, this is a two-way reproach. We all learn as we grow.

While some are honestly perturbed by how the discussions move along, it is my opinion that those being questioned have to give an explanation to substantiate their writings or their actions. That is the essence of this particular post.

Again, I do hope you will see the things I said here in a positive outlook. Please accept my sincere apologies if in any way there was a misunderstanding.

yul

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Are You Praying For A Good President?
Kailan Sinulat: March 03, 2004

To answer the question in this topic... yes, I am praying for a good president... and so are millions of Filipinos. That is why with two months to go, people will come to their senses and choose Eddie Villanueva for his integrity and sincerity to uplift the nation using the well-crafted platform of government as a starting point.

... Marami na ang nagsawa! Galing sa isang pagamutan ang mother ko kahapon at merong nakilala na isang elderly na devout Catholic. Alam mo kung ano ang sabi? Si Villanueva ang bobotohin kasi sabi ng mga anak niya wala ng iba pang mapipili. Gising na kumbaga. Sasama na sa pagbangon ng Pilipinas.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Opinion: Papaano Maiiwasan ang Mga Protesta ng mga Matatalong Presidentiables
Kailan Sinulat: March 07, 2004

This is In reference to the Aksyon Ngayon, Pilipino Star column by Al G. Pedroche written on March 04, 2004 that we need a neutral presidency to avoid political bickerings after the elections threatening our country's economy.

I read the article again and what the author suggests is for us to have a neutral president who does not have any political color, has a workable platform, and has a good reputation. The never-ending political bickerings puts the country into a slump. This is magnified not just by the emotions of the candidates but by the emotions of their supporters as well. In his opinion, we need to have a neutral president who does not have any political color, has a workable platform, and has a good reputation to PREVENT this from happening. I can respect that.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Tama Ba na Slow Down na Tayo sa Pagsuporta kay Bro. Eddie?
Kailan Sinulat: March 07, 2004

Hindi... Katunayan, meron kaming taxi driver na nakausap kanina... Lacson daw siya. Nung maliwanagan habang kaming pamilya eh nakasakay papunta sa isang mall, ayun at nagpapasalamat... si Eddie Villanueva na ang kandidato ngayon.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: To All Eddie Villanueva Supporters
Kailan Sinulat: March 07, 2004

I was reading a book and came across one truth (that's the way I view it) that the author speaks of:

"I don't know all the keys to success, but one key to failure is to try to please everyone."

Eddie Villanueva will win not because his supporters can please everyone, but there will be people who are open-minded and are craving for real change to happen in the country whom we can convince... the numbers are growing exponentially each day.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: To All Eddie Villanueva Supporters
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004

(Ito ang isinulat ng isang forumer: "'The KEY to SUCCESS is the SUCCESS KEY and the KEY to FAILURE is the FAILURE KEY'. It's just as simple and plain as that. how could you miss it ? Isa ka pa naman chief propagandist.'exponential' lo and behold.... pag sinabi mo meron kang 2 botante ngayon, pagdating ng halalan ay bilyon botante na ito kung exponential nga ang growth niyo... aba sino ba ang niloloko mo ? hindi ako, sana hindi rin yung iba.")

The book I was referring to (in reference to my previous post) was a best seller and was read and loved by around 15 million people and still growing... and I agree with the author. Now, where did you get your quotation? Haven't heard of it really just now. Perhaps both authors have differing opinions.

BTW, I was referring to our strategy... it's exponential in theory and perhaps in action. You check your math... I did not say how many levels. Besides it is our goal (to reach millions) and and 7x7 (is our) strategy, remember?

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Is Bro. Eddie Capable of Being a President?
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004

(Ito ang isinulat ng isang forumer: "He may be fighting the right enemies (Villanueva) but is he fighting the correct war?" Apparently his friend he is trying to convince asked him that question.)

Definitions of war:

[1] a concerted campaign to end something that is injurious; "the war on poverty"; "the war against crime"
[2] the waging of armed conflict against an enemy; "thousands of people were killed in the war"
[3] an active struggle between competing entities; "a price war"; "a war of wits"; "diplomatic warfare"
[4] a legal state created by a declaration of war and ended by official declaration during which the international rules of war apply; "war was declared in November but actual fighting did not begin until the following spring"
[5] make or wage war

On 1: There will be no war if there is no enemy. Your friend mentioned corruption, abuses, etc. If this is the war definition your friend meant then we can say, Eddie Villanueva is at war with corruption and at war with abuses, etc.

On 2: You have to define terms with your friend as he seem confused as to the meaning of war in this context in contrast to the first definition above. This war seem likely as what is being depicted on the verse he quoted wherein Josiah was killed in an act of war. This war can mean war against another country or insurgency.

On 3: Each candidate is already at war if we define war in this context.

On 4: Hope we don't come up with this kind of war just like Afghanistan and Iraq.

On 5: This is the the verb form of the word "war". Individuals and groups are constantly at war with something. Evil against good, poverty against affluence, etc. etc.

Now, which war are we talking about? You have to define terms with your friend or both of you will not be able to understand each other.

Just my two cents.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Bangon Pilipinas, Malakas ang Fighting Spirit
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004

Ibabalik ko lang sa talagang layunin ng topic ano po (lumalayo ng lumalayo dahil sa mga basura na itinatambak ng mga supporters ng ibang partido)... malakas talaga ang fighting spirit ng Bangon Pilipinas. Katunayan... mga nagvovolunteer magugulat ka sa dedikasyon. Minsan nagkaroon ako ng pagkakataon na pumunta sa headquarters ng Bangon Pilipinas... masarap sa pakiramdam ang makikita mong pagtutulong-tulungan.

Besides supporters of Villanueva are multiplying. Kitang-kita ito at nararamdaman. Marami na ang nakakaintindi at naliliwanagan. Dati ang sabi ng iba kay ganito ako, kay ganito ako... nakakagulat sapagkat matapos ang paliwanag ay naliliwanagan. Ngayon alam na nila kung sino ang bobotohin... Eddie Villanueva.

Babangon ang Pilipinas!

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Bro. Eddie will be a Good Leader
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004

(Ito ang sinabi ng isang supporter ni FPJ: "Spin a win !!!!!!!!!")

Eddie Villanueva is a good leader and will continue to be one. His platform of government is sound and achievable. While just as you said, "spin a win" is just what it is with some candidates... kumbaga bahala na ang diyos ng hapon kung ano ang mangyayari pagkatapos ng halalan.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Si Villanueva ang Pinakamatalino sa Lahat ng Presidente!
Kailan Sinulat: March 08, 2004

Whether Villanueva is the most knowledgeable (or one who possess wisdom) among the presidential candidates or not will remain an academic question. What is important is he is capable of leading the nation and that can be mirrored in his platform of government.

Ang platapormang ito ay hinahangaan ng marami na naging tulay para maniwala sila na babangon ang Pilipinas.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, Presidential Candidate's Forum, Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Paksa: Re: Why I switched to Bro. Eddie Villanueva
Kailan Sinulat: April 07, 2004

With what happened to our country for two decades after Marcos was ousted we need an able and neutral presidency.

Our country was able to take off a few meters from the ground and our economy was then referred to as the "tiger economy" during the Ramos administration after the slump during the Aquino revolutionary government. Yet it was just one brief shining moment and we were again devastated and with almost no hope to recover. Since then, we are fighting a battle where no one wins. War will strike us all dead not in armed combat but in increasing debt and number of people submerged in poverty.

The nearest person I thought would fit in the presidency is Roco. Yet, I weighed him and found him lacking.

That's it... I'm fed up! At that point I was hopeless and clueless that one will indeed be raised to lead the nation against the evils in our society and our government. I have lost interest in the 2004 elections.

Then good news was spread widely... Eddie Villanueva was contemplating to run for the presidency. I was excited and still am until this day.

In my opinion, a win of any of the other candidates aside from Eddie Villanueva will cause civil unrest. Villanueva is the only neutral presidential candidate we have. His leadership will cause an overhaul in our various systems towards morality.

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Isa akong maralita. Ako ay para kay Bro. Eddie.

Bakit? Sapagkat kay Villanueva may mas malaking oportunidad na naghihintay para sa bayan na siyang magiging resulta ng kanyang makabuluhang programa sa pagbuwag ng korapsyon... Ito ay ang pagtataas ng sahod ng mga nanunungkulan kapalit ng kanilang matapat na serbisyo at maaaring pagkakakulong kung naging tiwali matapos ang isang mabilis na paglilitis.

Ito ay mangangahulugan na ang maliliit na negosyante ay magkakaroon na ng patas na laban sa mga bidding at iba pang paraan ng pangangalakal. Ito ang magdudulot ng maraming trabaho sa ating bansa at magiging panimula ng matatag na ekonomiya at pagpapataas ng dangal ng bawat Filipino.

Patas na laban sa kalakal... ito ang isa sa mga dahilan kung bakit ako ay para kay Bro. Eddie.

Saan Isinulat: Election2004.PH, General Election Discussion
Paksa: Re: PRO Eddie Villanueva Ako
Kailan Sinulat: April 16, 2004

Ako ay para sa mga maralita at isa ring maralita... ako ay para kay Bro. Eddie.