Time 16:22, 15 Dec 1998
From Mota
Vic,
Ever get that gift I sent you?
PAZ,
Mota
Time 15:18, 15 Dec 1998
From ERIC
ok everybody
my friend brought back 2 ounces of seeds
from veitnam after the war. he spent
the whole time there looking for the
best pot. Well he has been growing this
strain since then...using no breeding
program.
Well have been told that the strain has lost its potency.
What i want to know ..is there a way
to get the potency back?
if like 20 plants were grown would a
few have the original potenecy?
Time 14:43, 15 Dec 1998
From Budm
Hry trelaway, Its a apt, only three laides,
but they are stinky ones, thanks for the
reply, im on my way to the addy now,
A merry xmas, and a high new year to ya!
Peace
Time 14:21, 15 Dec 1998
From Lady J
vic, what is DAD? it should have a warning label...damn.
Peace
Time -1:57, 15 Dec 1998
From trelaway
Hey Budm,
dunno where you are or how many you are
growing but I've had great success
with this stuff called ona. Its non
toxic and keeps my apartment smell free. Only
costs me two bucks a month to keep my
eight budding women odourless
http://hydroponics.com/products/ona.htm
Time 19:42, 14 Dec 1998
From Budm
Hi Vic, Gawd, these Roms are smelling
up the place, dont get me wrong I like it
but the neighbors, that I dont want.
If I buy I ozone mach, can I place it near my
front door to keep the smell from creeping
out of the crib, or does it need to be
nearer the closet? TIA
Peace
Time 13:51, 13 Dec 1998
From Lady J
hi all,
vic>>all is well..:)
thanks and peace
Time 08:13, 12 Dec 1998
From Vic High
bishoptakesqueen - no idea bud. I just grow in dirt and give them more
than they need. There are many hydro growers here that may be able to help
though. I do know if something isn't just right, blueberry will be one
of the first to tell you. Good luck.
Time 08:06, 12 Dec 1998
From Vic High
I don't see anything wrong with 13-18". Who knows, maybe that is optimal in your set up, when you consider the temps at the plant tops, and the fact that the light is stationary. BTW - I too raise my plants more often than I adjust the light heights. Being a perpetual harvest system, I often have plants of different heights under the same 3 light suncircle.
Have a great weekend as well, Vic
Time -3:43, 12 Dec 1998
From Budm
Hi Vic, excuse the first time Q's, But in flowering Rom, is 13-18in from the hps ok, or should I elevate them a bit? Is 12in really critical, Thanks, Have a great w-end!
Peace
Time 20:38, 10 Dec 1998
From bishoptakesqueen
i need information regarding nutrition for blueberry in a nutrient film
technique
hydropnic system--please help the seeds are on the way!
Time 14:27, 10 Dec 1998
From trelaway
Anyone ever feel like they've had a left brain or right brain stone. I just blew a jay of this brand new stuff I grew (no-name bad seed) and it actually feels like my left brain is baked and my right is clear.
Tho i'm still laughin' out both sides of my mouth.
Time 14:11, 10 Dec 1998
From ERIC
I have noticed that the clone draws the nutrients from the tips of the
leave to the stem.turning the leaves tips brown as the nutrients are pulled
out.Leaving the tips on the leaves allows the clone extra nutrients. cutting
the leaves would not let the plant use those nutrients for root development.
Time 13:27, 10 Dec 1998
From oldtimer1
Sorry pie wasn't npk's it was here :-
http://www.oocities.org/RainForest/Andes/3607/meters.htm
Ot1
Time 13:17, 10 Dec 1998
From oldtimer1
Pie this is a small bit from NPK general hydro page:-
Three meters were used, each with source water that had its own unique
properties. One a Hanna EC meter, where mS readings were converted to ppm
(TDS) using the current 0.70 conversion standard for comparison with the
TDS meter displays. Another was an Oakton TDS meter, the third a Hanna
TDS442. Both TDS meters employ the 4-4-2 conversion standard for fertilizer
solutions. It should be noted that EC meters do not use a conversion value,
TDS meters are simply EC meters converted to readout in ppm instead of
mS or uS. The conversion is 0.70 x uS = ppm. All meters were calibrated
prior to the tests. In the Uk some recommend a 0.80 or0.85 conversion rate
sorry if I didn't explain properly. I thought we had previously discussed
that I was setting up a system to auto water from a tank with flood drippers
to each plant. So I want to feed my plants with this system too. So I’ve
been taking readings by the can or bucket it doesn't matter which and using
different mixes on separate blocks of plants to find the best mix. Then
all I have to do is add the same fert to the tank until the cf reading
is the same then i can open the valve and water & feed at the same
time. I hope this helps to clear up my inability to communicate properly.
I just wish I was like Lady J who can say with a few
words what takes me a page.
Ot1.
Time 12:02, 10 Dec 1998
From pie
i too trim my leave in about the same manner as vic. i also scrap the outside of the stem that is below the soil line. i was getting about 80% suruvual rate with clones until they started farging with the water mains outside my house. now i am having problems with the bigger plants too.
i will recieve an Oakton PH meter this week and an Oakton TDS meter
right around X-mas. I had a question as to wheather i could use the TDS
meter with organic teas and ot1 came to the resque. seems that he is able
to meter his oraganic teas. thought it would be good to bring the discussion
here. Vic being the organic king and allllllllll. ;-)))))) anhoo with thanks
to ot1 here is an explaination he gave me. "We tend to use Cf meters rather
than parts per million but I don't think there is much difference although
there is a lot of disagreement on the conversion numbers.The organic liquid
fertilisers we use give the recommended Cf readings on the label just the
same as the chemical co’s do. I of course ignore them and their recommended
doses but have made records of the best results on a bucket scalefor using
tank scale for when my new setup is finished and ready to run."by ot1 my
??
- what is bucket scale and tank scale? fill-to-here marks maybe?????
- what is a Cf meter?
i know that they have another scale using mv, but all this is new too me.
Vic ... you may want to consider adding the following link ...
http://www.greenair.com/techtips.htm
... which is full of information on TDS /ph etc meters.
Time 17:35, 9 Dec 1998
From Budm
Hi Vic, The distance to the ladies is about 18in, they are in 2gal pots,
I could put
something under them to elevate them,at this point its more convient
then
lowereing the light,to 12in, what do you susgest? Thanks a bunch.
Peace
Time 17:30, 9 Dec 1998
From trelaway
I find the same thing with clones, they don't need much luvin'. Tho,
with luvin' I've
had BCBB root in three days.
Time 16:04, 9 Dec 1998
disable java and javascript and the problem is solved. its really not
Hotmails
problem but more of a vulnerability by javascript to be used as a vehicle
to insert
malicious programs.
Time 14:22, 9 Dec 1998
From MIRAGE
Vic ... Check out this link dude .. can be helpful
http://www.antionline.com/SpecialReports/hotmail/
Time 11:09, 9 Dec 1998
From oldtimer1
Vic mail call. Ot1
Time 08:50, 9 Dec 1998
From toker2
thats a good tip about cuttin the leaves. i just figured out how to
get more cuts in
my box.after new growth starts i usually remove those bottom leaves
anyway.i
too use the same scissors that itrim and cut bud with.i do run em across
the stone occasionally.my clone box is one of those 12" deep clear
plastic
storage boxes turned upside down with a 15 watt floro laying right
on top.i do
make a point to remove the dome at least daily for a bit to allow air
exchange
and break the life cycle of mold and fungus
Time 08:27, 9 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Budm - finishing height depends alot on growing style. I usually flower
toped
plants at 18-20" and they consistantly finish at about 3'. Now that
is just in my
garden. Others will have different results. A good rule of thumb with
Romberry is
that they will double in height after you initiate flowering. They
stretch far less
than say a skunk or nl/haze. I grow with between 20-30 watts per ft
and people
are quite suprised with the quality of my nugs. They just look normal
to me. I
agree with T2 that you should be fine with 60w/ft. You are keeping
the light at
about 12" from the ladies?
Mr Hacker - thanks for the info. Ditto to Baudelaire and Pie, this info
is very
important to us all.
Eric - Hmmmm
Aunt Nellie - Good idea, I'll have to try it. Ok, my hot cloning tips, haha
Most important to me is humidity and warmth. With these, dipping in
rooting
hormone is unnecesary. There has been a couple of occasions where I
did my
pruning and then found out my rooting gel was moldy so I just said
to hell with it
and went without. No problems. I have found that soaking the rooting
medium
overnight with a Vitamin solution such as Nutriboost is a big help,
but misting with
anything other than plain water or no-damp greatly slows the rooting
process.
Ok the big tip is that I prune back the clones by removing the outer
1/2 of each
leaf. This extra plant material is not needed by the clone and helps
prevent the
wilt factor. I also do it so that I can squeeze more clones into a
smaller area, and
most importantly, I helps reduce mold infections. With the right technique,
it
takes no time at all. I fold all the leaves up past the terminal shoot
(like they
bundle christmas trees) and then with one cut with the scissors, remove
all leaf
material that protrudes past the terminal shoot.
Truth is, is that I offer my clones very little in tlc. I don't cut
underwater, I don't
use a sterile razor knife ( just sharp scissors that I scraped the
resin from the
last harvest off of), and I rarely look at them after they are set.
I usually set them,
cover them with a humidity dome, place in the cloning bench, and then
ignore for
2 weeks. In 2 weeks, I'll plant them into 5-6" pots containing the
soil mix from my
webpage. I really don't have time to baby them, so just follow the
techniques I
learned in the production forest nurseries. I do usually set about
20% more than
I plan on needing though.
Time 07:41, 9 Dec 1998
From Budm
Toker2 Thanks for the outlook on the
nugs. Im working with only 52in, to the
bulb they are in the strech period now
and have 23in left to go, before they hit
the light,so if I have to modify my
situation, I will start now, So if anyone knows
the finishing hight of Rom , thanks
in advance.
Time -3:00, 9 Dec 1998
From toker2
budm i like those odds. your runnin over
60w/sq',you oughta have solid nugs
with most strains
Time 18:42, 8 Dec 1998
From Budm
Hi Vic, Well it looks like out of five
RB's 4 are Female, They are under 400hps in
my bud closet only 6sqfeet.
With only the small 400(super soil $
pure blend), will I get tight nugs, from Rom?
And how tall will they be when they
are done? Thanks for your time!
Peace
Time 14:32, 8 Dec 1998
From Baudelaire
long litany, et.al.>
As I said, lpwa is opaque, therefore
it forwards only the proxy IP. So, yes you can
send and receive Hotmail, or any other
web-based email, anon with lpwa. But
you must use it EVERY time you log into
your account. A single non-proxied log
in, either to set up the account, or
check it, will give you up to the G(ates)-men.
So how's I doing, anon? Hint: I'm somewhere
between Walla Walla and Sedalia.
More or less.
B420
Time 11:20, 8 Dec 1998
From anon/mr. hacker/asshole/and a long litany of others
not sure if lpwa will give you their
ip when sending e-mail. make sure when using
Hotmail, to check and see if the proxy
covers e-mail too! send yourself an e-mail
from your hotmail account, to another
account (whether hotmail,yahoo, or your
ISP). When you receive the e-mail look
at the Originating IP. If it's your real IP
then you dont have "anon" e-mail! but
you can still surf the web. if it shows your
proxies IP then you can use Hotmail
and all the others safely to send e-mail. Any
questions?
Time 09:28, 8 Dec 1998
From pie
i used the lpwa to setup my hotmail account
toooooo. i let it pick my hotmail
name and password by using
\u = username
\p = password
\@ = for addy
so even my hotmail account is anon
Time 08:05, 8 Dec 1998
From ERIC
one more thing all of you indoor growers
need to keep in mind when thinking
about this.....well hell you need to
keep it in mind period.
you have all heard of us outdoor farmers
planting and harvesting by the signs of
the moon and stars.
well the moon mainly...this is a practice
that most of you avoid and pay no
attention to but you should.
the reason that there is a difference
in plant and animal life during different
moon phases is not because of myth.
Its because of the different gravatational
pulls from the moon and its orbit
around us. Thats were you get the more
babys being born on full moons and
other stuff.
It also has to do with the added light
at night ..but mainly with the gravatational
pulls from the moon swinging around
the earth..hence high tides low tides and
such
my point is: Gravity doesnt stop pulling
on those plants just because they are
inside ya know?
Time 07:44, 8 Dec 1998
From ERIC
I think if we are going to discuss the
differences in potency...from an indoor
grown plant and an outdoor grown plant,
we need to establish what exactly is
considered stress to a plant. One thing
i think is that it takes more stress to a
plant outdoors than it does to a plant
indoors to cause problems with it,
hermy,stretching,and other reactions
to stress.
im having a hard time understanding this
because things that you guys are
terming stressfull events to a plant
in an indoor operation....well most of the time
they are the norm for outdoor production.
this is a question i was also wondering
we all know how adaptive cannabis is..
well when we are doing these test by
taking two clones from the same mom..
one is grown to maturity inside and
one grown to maturity outside.
we have established that they will be
very different...but different in how many
ways???and also if a plant can change
itself to become a hermifadite to insure
survival......what the hell else can
it
change...color...taste...potency...height....and
mind you that the hermifaditic trait
is self inflicted and has nothing to
do with the mother...because we stressed it
and it became a hermy..it did this on
its own so it would produce pollen that
would travel away from the hell hole
it is living in..
so what else can it change?????
i know that breeding programs can change
different things....but what about that
indivual plant?
Time 05:30, 8 Dec 1998
From Aunt Nellie
OK, it's time to try to give back a little
for the help I'm getting.This is my
BEST TIP since the difference, once
I started doing it, was amazing!BTW,
what's everyone else's BEST TIP?What's
the best product or technique
that you've used?
Cloning!Clones always droop for about
a day before straightening back
up, right?I found that that "stretch"
spot would sometimes begin to turn
brown and was most suseptable to mold.I
read an article in HT Best of
Grow issue about a guy who said that
he would sometimes put his clones in the
refrigerator (for up to 2 days) if he
wasn't quite ready to plant them.He
also mentioned that he thought they
actually did better after this "chilling".I
took some clones, put them in a shallow
dish with distilled water, put them in the
frige for a day, angle cut the stems
under water (I'm sure the chilling makes a
nicer cut, too), planted them in Jiffy
7's and suddenly I could clone with the best
of them!They never drooped and, in fact,
seemed to take off growing right
out of the humidity dome!I kid you not,
you've got to try this.I've left
them for half a day and up to 2 days.I
think they'd last much longer,
though.Remember, the guy in the article
was just storing them for a while
and that, in itself, might be helpful
to some of you.The babies definitely do
better, too!
One other thing I discovered regarding
cloning was that if I used the humidity
dome, it was better not to mist the
babies too.It definitely cuts down on the
mold.I just remove the cover for a short
time a couple of times a day to air
things out and put it back on to let
the humidity build again.I also use a
heating pad for bottom heat and that
creates all the humidity needed without
extra spraying.
Hope this helps.
Time 04:55, 8 Dec 1998
From Aunt Nellie
Baudelaire--Thanks!Exactly what I was
after.You seem comfortable
with LPWA and that's reassuring.The
instructions that I used (from
Greenman's page) suggested setting up
the proxy first then a new Hotmail
address.When I set up the proxy, though,
I didn't know if the new Hotmail
name was taken and, sure enough, it
was.I did set up a new Hotmail
account that was different than the
LPWA login name (someone else's Hotmail
name) and noticed that the original
login worked anyway (again, with someone
else's name).So I just left it thinking
that it would create a little confusion.
That seems to be what you're suggesting so I feel pretty safe
now.Thank You!
Stix--Glad I'm not the only one getting
something from this discussion.And
yeah, Eric, I am really enjoying this
page!
One final question.Am I safe using my
new Hotmail account that I
explained above (set up after going
through the proxy)?I mean is there
extra risk (compared to posting here)
by exchanging e-mail with someone? I
used Anonymizer's remailers to send
a test e-mail and it came through 2 days
later.I don't think that someone can
return that mail, though, so if I wanted
to correspond with someone, I'd have
to give an e-mail address.Is that
OK, considering the proxy?
Time 15:56, 7 Dec 1998
From ERIC
Hey yall
This is a good hangout aint it?
I like this place......
Time 14:24, 7 Dec 1998
From stix
Hey thanks guys for the security info,
especially Aeric77 for the simple lpwa
instructions. This is great, my browser
is actually a little faster than before it
seems.
Eric>>Re hermies, many years ago when
we could gro outdoors out of about 8
patches of the same seed stock we had
one patch that had about 4 of the 20 or
so plants in there go hermie. No plant
in any other patch showed hermie
tendancies. The conditions were a little
worse and the light in that patch was the
least which is what I think caused it.
Time 11:19, 7 Dec 1998
From Baudelaire
Ugh!
single space, B, single space....Sorry folks, old habits are hard to break.
B420
p.s.- say anon, how's I doing? ;^)
Time 11:10, 7 Dec 1998
From Baudelaire
on proxies-
for lpwa, many folks use a@a.com or b@b.com,
z@z.com, etc. as both log in
and password.don't give em a real addy,
it isn't required.and the
more folks use one of the 'generic'
user name/pwords, the less your posts can
be tracked back to you.remember, to
use your words against you, they
must prove first that they were *your*
words.
lpwa works, its up a lot of the time,
and it's owned by lucent technologies, big
u.s. company, so its very unlikely its
a dea trap. however i prefer proxies that
don't have a log-in interface and are
based outside your home
country.the more jurisdictions you make
the man jump through, the less
excited he gets about tracking you.because
after getting 30 different
okays from his boss and drug nazi central,
kissing two judge's asses for a couple
of marginal-based court orders, and
promising 15 future favors to constable
henrik jeergens of the greater copenhagen
harm reduction task force, detective
doughnut just might find out that you
really do live in denmark.or walla
walla.what good is that to a up-n-coming
oklahoma state drug task force
agent?cops pick the low hanging fruit.set
yourself up high in the
tree.
last ***very important*** thing to remember:not
all proxies are
anon.many of the more well known are
'transparent' in that they forward
your original IP # to the sites you
are visiting.lpwa and anonymizer are
opaque.librarysafe is transparent.to
check, log on with the proxy of
your choice, and go to this site: http://www.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/info
look for 'remote host' and 'remote address'.see if your IP shows
there.if the proxy is opaque (anon)
it should show the proxy's IP only.
don't know your IP #?go tohttp://consumer.net/Analyze1/
without a proxy.it will tell you that and oh so much more about
you.
good luck, stay safe
B420
Time 09:58, 7 Dec 1998
From ERIC
aeric77>>>I think that given your question
and i think about it, I say this I think
that if you take those two clones..put
one in the best growing enviroment
possabile with all the added co2 and
everything, I believ that that will not be
considered stress to the plant as in
battering it, I think that it will produce more
area for thc glands and that it willproduce
more thc because of all the available
water and food for itself..it is programmed
to produce as much as possable and
with the added buildinhg blocks to do
it it will,
the clone outside will not have as much
resin or as much of a flower, but i
believe that the potency of that thc
will be stronger than the one grown in
protection.
I will compare this to COTTON.. you
can take a field of cotton and look at the
coton grown on the edge of the field
that is covered in dust all the time because
it is next to the gravel road and only
gets water when it rains
(seldom)...compared to the cotton plants
in the middle of the field that are dust
free and are irragated regularly.
the cotton on the edge is 1/3 the size
of the cotton in the middle and has 1/3 the
bowls of cotton. BUT take that bowl
and compare it to a bowl from the middle
and it is twice as tuff ( meaning harder
to pull apart, And the seeds inside have a
harder shell than the middle row cotton.
PECAN TREES
pecans from irragated and mantaned orchards
have BIGGER pecans with more
nut inside, BUT the pecans from unirragated
orchards pecans are smaller
less nut but they taste better.
this also works with fruit, I prefer
wild muscadines than story bought, pears and
apples and even back berries
so i guess what i think is that the fruit
is bigger in controled enviroments but, the
fruit is better from the uncontrolled.
In pot i guess the seeds will taste better and
the pot would be more potent.....Id
like to ask that guy
chooki about the seeds that he produces
..he made the statement that he grew
some plants in pure sand and that those
plants had an extra protective coating
on them compared to the plants that were
grown in normal soil.
Treleway>>>>>until i had seen an indoor
setup or before i came onto the
internet i had NEVER seen a herm, growers
that have been growing since the
70's had seen it once or twice but very
very very rare in outdoor gardens. These
are growers that have never even heard
of seedbanks, just traded amongst
themselves...
and they were doing inbreeding as well.
the only difference is they never did
any breeding programs year after year and
no records were ever kept..they just
took the best looking plants and crossed
and i have always felt that indicas make
me a hell of alot more paranoid than the
beutiful satavias.
most growers here wouldnt touch an indica...
to give you an example. i had a patch
of 6 satavias and 4 indacas..
my satavias were stolen but my indicas
were still there...
aint that some shit..go through all
the trouble to steal my pot and leave the damn
indicas thats what you call a picky
smoker..I ended up giving those away
because the first joint made my heart
beat race out of wack and every bad thing
ive ever done came to me at that moment
PARONIA CITY...that blew my damn
mind
..now everyone here isnt like that...just
the older guys..the kids here love
anything that smells like pot.
Oltimer>>>> i will send ya a sample one
day.....So do you think that if a grower
here took an indica that was very good
up north and grew it here that the
potency would be much higher here. Hell
our growing season hasnt stopped for
this year yet...i was at a friends houseyesterday
and she still has 7
satavias outside, I saw a little frost
damage to the leaves but thats it...he havent
had a killer frost yet...
THE GREAT cHANUCK (HACKER)>>>>
sorry dude but that wasnt me...
67ed>>> I forgot that you and I were
not living far from one another..and you are
correct..IT GETS VERY HUMID HERE....sometimes
so bad you cant breath.
Time 08:22, 7 Dec 1998
From Mota
oldtimer1 - Yes the clones were from
the same mum.
Time 06:05, 7 Dec 1998
From on purpose
sorry Carnack you are not GREAT today.
not even close.
Time 04:49, 7 Dec 1998
From Aunt Nellie
Thanks, guys, for the continuing conversation
about net security.I have
read the anonymizer site and many others
regarding this topic.Mr. Hope
this helps/on purpose: thanks for the
post explaining how a proxy works but I'm
looking for anonymity and not necessarily
surfing speed.And if I don't
know the pluses and minuses of LPWA,
I sure wouldn't recognize a good proxy
from your list. Which is a good proxy
for someone in the US?Not a list, just
name one or two that you feel are "safe".The
anonymizer and others like it
are set up like e-mail with fields for
whom the mail is being sent to, etc. but
message board posts are set up slightly
different with just optional name and
e-mail address.How would I use anonymizer
(or even Hotmail) to post to a
message board? Sorry if this sounds
really basic but computers came along
after I was out of school and this is
all very foreign to me.
I've actually been trying to read and
understand this subject for at least a year.
I hate to sound like "I have a seed, now what do I do?" but I'm probably
not
much beyond that as far as computer
understanding goes.Is everyone
comfortable with LPWA?Yes or No.You
like a different proxy better?
Which one and how would I configure it?Anonymizer dialup service
is not available in my area--does anyone
know of something similar or am I just
as safe using my ISP and a proxy?
I probably shouldn't worry since I have
nothing growing right now and don't really
need to start anything soon.I experimented
with different homemade
systems and mediums and developed a
really simple passive hydro system
using coconut coir as the medium.I grew
for personal consumption only,
trying to produce as much as I could
as quickly as I could, then stashing
everything away from my premises.I could
easily go another couple of
years or so and won't start anything
again until I feel it's really cool.I've
never talked to anyone about my hobby
but I'm dying to do so.After all my
planning, though, I hate to just "advertise"
it on the internet.Thanks for the
help (again, please be specific) and
I'll offer my insights when I'm finally
comfortable posting.
Vic--Thanks for the site and the help
that you and your friends are giving me.
I got a kick out of your "Aunt Nellie" name that you mentioned in your
first
post to me and I've decided to adopt
that for my moniker.Wouldn't we all
love a "kind" Aunt Nellie.I just hope
that I can get involved here and use it.
Time -3:37, 7 Dec 1998
From The Great Carnack
on purpose
"Mr Hacker, do you now who i normally
post as? i am trying to improve my anon
setup. i would appreciate your help.
thanks"
Yes, you post as Eric Carr. Learn to
spell.
Time 19:51, 6 Dec 1998
From Vic High
LMAO - sorry anon hacker, but you just
failed hacker 101. There are many
many here that know just how wrong you
are. I don't even know where walla
walla is, haha. I'm a canuck who lives
on southern Vancouver Island, as I'm sure
many here can atest to. I use a local
ISP and when I visit certain sites such as
HBC's new site, it gives me the name
of my ISP if I don't use a proxy.
Nervous Nellie - please take the time
to educate yourself before "going for it".
The below post by "hope this helps"
has many good links to educate yourself,
plus many good proxy URLs. Good Luck.
Budm - I like to flower romberry for
8 weeks. I'm not sure what you mean by
cytokinin application. I have played
with a chemical called "Blossom Blood"
where I applied it at week 2-3 and then
again at week 4-5. As for when males
become a threat, that is a little too
subjective to give a definate answer. Some
seedlings flower in veg, and others
seem to remain in veg without flowering.
Speed of flowering will depend on age
and size. Bigger and older plants will
flower faster. I don't want to sound
like a smart ass, but the males become a
threat when the flowers start to open.
Sorry, but that is the best I can do for you.
Time 19:35, 6 Dec 1998
From trelaway
I don't think MJ people are going to
get busted on the net without a global effort
to do so. I think it would take UN level
interest in shutting down the transfer of
our info before we should be worried.
That we can be had is obvious, the crackdown on kiddie porn proves it.
The beauty/selling-feature of the net
is its anonymity. If that goes, so do many of
the people who buy computers and pay
monthly isp charges.
I think we're safe, but I also live in
BC where the most I'd get is fines anyway, so
maybe I'm a little cocky about it....
Time 18:30, 6 Dec 1998
From toker2
is this you
Time 18:26, 6 Dec 1998
From on purpose
vic sorry for the double post.
note... the list below maybe out of date
Time 18:22, 6 Dec 1998
From hope this helps / on purpose
you can also chain a proxy and the anomimyzer
more than once but it sure does
slow down surfing
http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://204.50.108.132/
try thes site above for more info
lpwa -> anonimizer -> anonimizer -> site
PROXIES
AN INTRODUCTION TO PROXIES
The Internet Proxy Server
A proxy server speeds up your access
to the Internet. A proxy server is a
machine
configured with some software that serves
requests from a client. The Internet
Prolink proxy server is a system of
computers that handle requests from your
PC or Macintosh, and pass them on to
these remote servers. When the remote
server
responds, the response is sent back
to your PC.
How does the proxy server speed up my internet access?
The proxy servers are very powerful Unix
computers that are directly connected
to the Internet Prolink internet backbone.
They have a lot of memory and disk
space, and can handle thousands of requests
per second. Because of this high
performance, the latency of requests
between you and the remote server are
greatly
reduced.
The main advantage of the proxy server
is that it can also do caching. Caching
is the process of storing files that
have been recently used on a local disk
so they do not need to be transferred
across the world for each person that
needs to access the file. For example,
if a new version of netscape comes out,
and 10'000 Internet Prolink users want
to ftp this file from California, the
caching proxy server makes it possible
that the file will only be transferred
once from the USA, and then all other
users will have what appears to be local
access to the file. This helps three
ways:
You don't have to wait for a busy remote server;
Access to the file is limited only by your modem or ISDN speed;
Less internet bandwidth is used, making other users happier.
Another advantage is that the proxy server
can read data from the remote
machine
much faster than your PC or Mac. This
means that if the remote system is not
totally overloaded, the time for your
transfer will be less. The proxy will
"smooth out" the data transfer by reducing
latency.
What is latency?
Latency is the time it takes to start
or stop something. For example, walking
is a low latency task, whereas flying
in an airplane is a high latency task.
Clearly, once one starts flying, it
is quite fast, but it takes a long time
to get started, since you have to arrive
at the airport some time before the
flight actually leaves.
Why is lower latency a good thing?
Surfing on the internet is a series of
starts and stops, so any reduction in
latency decreases the time to get a
file.
Is proxy.autoconf a Java program?
Actually, this is a javascript program
that allows some intelligence to be
configured
into the proxy software in Netscape.
For example, if one proxy server is not
available, it will simply go to another.
Also, some proxy servers can be
configured
for USA sites, and others for European
sites.
LIST OF PROXIES AND THEIR PORT NUMBERS
last update 07/15/98
Public Proxys
(everbody can use them without restrictions)
Provider URL Port Protocol Extra comment
COM Librarysafe server.librarysafe.com
81 WWW/FTP/GOPHER
NetFilter
COM I-Proxy http://www.iproxy.com/launch.html
- WWW
get your own free account
COM LPWA lpwa.com 8000 WWW/FTP
l: your Email p: write something
JP Translator zip-translator.dna.affrc.go.jp
30001 WWW/FTP
Translator
KR Kren proxy.kren.nm.kr 8080 WWW/FTP
KR Snu proxy.snu.ac.kr 8080 WWW/FTP
Accessible provider proxys
(useable but the providers perhaps don't
want that you use their proxy)
Provider URL Port Protocol
Extra comment
AE Emirates.Net http://proxy.emirates.net.ae/proxy.pac
- AUTOCONFIG
NetFilter
AR UNCU noc.uncu.edu.ar 8080 WWW/FTP
AT Wu-Wien proxy.wu-wien.ac.at 8080
WWW/FTP/GOPHER/SECURITY
AT Merlin proxy.merlin.at 8080 WWW/FTP/GOPHER/WAIS/SECURITY
AU Dbworld proxy.dbworld.net.au 8080
WWW/FTP/SECURITY
AU localnet.localnet.com.au 8080 WWW
/ FTP
BM IBL proxy.ibl.bm 8080 WWW / FTP
CA Connect cache.connect.ab.ca 3128
WWW
CA PRN odin.prn.bc.ca 8080 WWW / FTP
CH Pingnet proxy.pingnet.ch 8080 WWW
/ FTP
CH Dataway http://www.dataway.ch/ns.pac
- AUTOCONFIG
CL Intermedia proxy.intermedia.cl 8080
WWW / FTP
CZ Cuni webcache.ms.mff.cuni.cz 8080
WWW/FTP/GOPHER/WAIS/SECURITY
CZ Cvut cache.sh.cvut.cz 3128 WWW /
FTP
COM Silcom proxy.silcom.com 3128 WWW
/ FTP/GOPHER
COM DEC cache2.nlanr.pa-x.dec.com 3128
WWW / FTP
DE T-Online ics2f.s.srv.t-online.de
80 WWW / FTP
DE VossNet cache.vossnet.de 3128 WWW
/ FTP
DE N-W pluto.nienburg-weser.de 8080
WWW / FTP
DE FH-Aachen http://www-proxy.fh-aachen.de:8080/
AUTOCONFIG
DE Uni-Stuttgart infosun-fd.rus.uni-stuttgart.de
8080 WWW/FTP/GOPHER
DK Auc http://cwis.auc.dk/proxy/always.pac
AUTOCONFIG
EDU Aubg http://www.aubg.edu 8080 WWW
/ FTP
EDU DLU owl.dlu.edu 8080 WWW / FTP
ES Softec linux.softec.es 8080 WWW /
FTP
ES Esegi dos2.esegi.es 3128 WWW / FTP
FI Oktasys proxy.oktasys.fi 80 WWW/FTP/GOPHER
IL IDC mail.idc.ac.il 8080 WWW / FTP
IT Micronet http://www.micronet.it/proxy.pac
AUTOCONFIG
IT Galactica proxy.galactica.it 8080
WWW / FTP
JO Go www.go.com.jo 8080 WWW / FTP
JP Kyutech sama.isc.kyutech.ac.jp 8080
WWW / FTP
KR Kyunghee cvs2.kyunghee.ac.kr 8080
WWW / FTP
MY Jaring proxy1.jaring.my 3128 WWW
NET EU chip.Austria.EU.net 8080 WWW
/ FTP
NET IBS proxy.IBS-GmbH.net 8080 WWW
/ FTP
NET MR mpls.cache.mr.net 3128 WWW /
FTP
NL CS.VU www-proxy.cs.vu.nl 8080 WWW
NO Lofotposty proxy.lofotposten.no 80
WWW
NO Arcticnet www.arcticnet.no 80 WWW
NO Robin proxy.robin.no 8080 WWW / FTP
ORG Silk proxy.silk.org 3128 WWW/FTP/GOPHER/WAIS/SECURITY
PK AOL oolala.aol.net.pk 8080 WWW /
FTP
PK AOL magic.aol.net.pk 8080 WWW / FTP
PL CTO w3cache.us.edu.pl 8080 WWW /
FTP/GOPHER
PL ICM sunsite.icm.edu.pl 8080 WWW /
FTP
RO Starnets proxy.starnets.ro 3128 WWW
/ FTP/GOPHER
SK Stuba axp.elf.stuba.sk 8080 WWW /
FTP
SG NTU news.ntu.edu.sg 8080 WWW / FTP
TH Hatyaiwit www.hatyaiwit.ac.th 8080
WWW / FTP
TH Wnet ns2.wnet.net.th 8080 WWW / FTP
TR Turnet proxy1.turnet.net.tr 8080
WWW
TR Turnet proxy2.turnet.net.tr 8080
WWW
US Elpaso episd.elpaso.k12.tx.us 8080
WWW / FTP
US WA dilbert.bb.cc.wa.us 3128 WWW /
FTP
YU Telekom proxy.telekom.yu 8080 WWW
/ FTP
ZA New cache.new.co.za 8080 WWW/FTP/GOPHER/WAIS/SECURITY
ZA Pix cyclone.pix.za 8080 WWW / FTP
ZW Cybergate proxy.cybergate.co.zw 8080
WWW / FTP
Time 18:13, 6 Dec 1998
From on purpose
Mr Hacker, do you now who i normally
post as? i am trying to improve my anon
setup. i would appreciate your help.
thanks
Time 17:34, 6 Dec 1998
From Budm
Vic, one more question, at what week
does a male RB become a danger to the
females, to be a pollen threat? Thanks
Peace
Time 17:15, 6 Dec 1998
From Budm
Hi all, Hope everyone had a good weekend!
Ive been lurking, and Nellie if you
want another proxie addy, I have about
20 of them, all over the world. Just post
back and ill figure out a way to get
a couple of them to ya! Hey Vic how many
days does RB need in the flower room?
Do you have any advice, on a
application of cytokin, once half way
through the Flower stage?
Peace
Time 14:42, 6 Dec 1998
BTW, i've never e-mailed you at any account
you have.
Time 14:41, 6 Dec 1998
vic, if your such a straight up, stand
up guy who is only trying to prove a point,
then why do'nt you admit that your ISP
is Blue Mountain Internet in Walla Walla,
Washington? whats the big deal mr. honesty?
Time 14:04, 6 Dec 1998
From (Less) Nervous Nellie
Vic--Thanks for the excellent post and
I agree that paranoia should not rule
one's life.There was a situation in
my area a while back where a guy was
busted for kiddie porn that was on his
computer when it was sent in for servicing.
The repair guy just casually (and illegally--he was charged) scoped out
the contents of the guy's computer and
then turned him in.Linda Tripp
might have also done something illegal
but the Prez, just like the pedophile (hey,
if Monica was a few years younger he
could be both) got busted.That
said, I'm inclined to agree that a small,
personal grow wouldn't measure up to
bringing down presidents or pedophiles.So,
if you think it's cool, I'm just
going to go for it.I do hope the discussion
goes on, though, especially
regarding lpwa specifically or if there's
a better alternative.
Time 12:37, 6 Dec 1998
From Vic High
This indoor/outdoor discussion is interesting.
Here on the west coast of BC, we
have very good outdoor and very good
indoor, but they are very
different.I'm not much of a smoker so
I can't say what the differences are,
but experienced buyers seem to be able
to tell right away. I've tried growing the
better outdoor inside and it becomes
a heavy yielding but very low potent shwag
weed. My indoor starts out real well
outside, but fizzles in the end and doesn't
finish in time. Mind you, if you take
romulan and grow it in a heated greenhouse,
you'll get some monster kick ass bud....
and lots of it. This is using natural
daylengths. This last summer my dad
grew romberry in 5 gal pails, but flowered
them in July/August by moving to a dark
place in the basement each night. He
couldn't grow to save his soul, so he
didn't end up with much, but what he did
have was the most potent yet. I just
figured the summer sun was better for THC
developement than the fall sun? Or was
it the stress that caused a small harvest
also caused higher potency?
Anon ?hacker? - is there more than one?
my point is that your anon comments
usually are fear mongering and serve
no positive purpose other than to disrupt
this page. Most of your smoke screens
are from hacker 101. I'm more a flower
boy than a computer geek, but even I
can see through your comments for what
they are. Truth is, if you are any good
at what you do, then you know I never
post anon or under a name other than
Vic High. So, I assume your comments
about certain posts making you sick
applies to some other visitors to this page. If
you feel someone here is a security
risk and posting crap, feel free to email me.
I'm sure you have the hotmail addy,
I believe you've emailed me in the past? I
think I recognise syntax and subject
content.
Nervous Nellie - aeric's comments are
right on the money from what little I know.
Each page you visit on the net logs
your ISP number and usually logs where you
came from and where you went. This isn't
really as scary as it sounds. The ISP
number gives nothing more than who your
internet provider is. In my case, my
ISP has a few thousand clients. This
means that all the hacker can figure out is
that I am one of the many thousands
that share that ISP. Like aeric mentioned, it
would take some heavy duty money and
search warrants to get any closer than
that. The kind of pull that is reserved
for large scale crimes, such as financial
manipulations, espionage, and kiddy
porn. Well you know what I mean. Unless
we were into large scale drug smuggling,
I doubt we would ever be worth their
time and money. Even though I'm currently
cruising without a proxy to prove a
point, I believe a non-detectable proxy
is an important safety precaution. It helps
you remain even more anon.
Now I doubt your ISP is reading what
you post. They log when you enter and exit
their service and maybe where you go.
I'm not even sure if they can read your
post - maybe mr. anon can fill us in
here. If they do, they would be breaking the
law and setting themselves up to go
out of business. Society would not stand for
allowing an ISP worker violating our
privacy and reading our letters to Aunt
Nellie.
Now my habit of visiting hotmail. I've
set www.hotmail.com as my home page so
that it is always my first stop when
entering the net. I'm usually short of time, so I
usually just stop here and check my
email. If I surf from here, I'm usually going
someplace I don't want to be followed,
so I make a short stop at any generic
page, usually just the hotmail front
page. Sometimes I decide to read the local
online sports page. I hope this helps
make it clearer.
I agree with the others that a little
paranoia is healthy, but I also know it is
healthy to understand where to focus
that paranoia energy. Many of us grow MJ
to express our desire to have the freedom
to do so. But if it means living in
paranoia and always looking over our
shoulders, then what's the point. I believe
in managing my fears and not letting
them take over my life. I've said this before,
but if we let the fears manage us, then
we have lost the freedom that were are
fighting to protect.
Time 10:20, 6 Dec 1998
From oldtimer1
Aeric 77 Are you saying I should be using
a different proxy? Ot1.
Time 10:15, 6 Dec 1998
From oldtimer1
Mik just went there on a different proxy
and it all seems to be working.Ot1
Time 10:08, 6 Dec 1998
From oldtimer1
67ed this year we saw hardly any sun
and yes it is milder being a small island
there are less extremes in temperature
the gulf stream flows by our shores. If
you take a variety that will finish
mid September here outdoors identical clones
grown indoors will be three or four
times as potent with much denser buds.Take
cuttings of the same var to the south
of France and they kick the ass off of the
indoor from here, we have been there
and done that thing. I was just trying to
explain this to Eric. Growing under
glass here to get the best results with tropical
vars you really need supplementary lighting
with uv output for them to fully
express there potential. At the present
time this is just to risky.
Mike I’m having probs logging onto some
of your pages have you got a server
prob?
On the question of lights I would use
8 x 400 w over the space indicated about
53 w per sq ft which should produce
high quality dense buds. With clones i
would fit in 150 plants in 4 litre tall
pots. The only prob with a block this large is
that a drip system would be needed for
watering / feeding.
All the best Ot1.
Time 09:20, 6 Dec 1998
From aeric77
hello there Old'un.......
Time 09:18, 6 Dec 1998
From Mike (mike@weedseed.com)
Nervous Nellie>>> (love the name)
The spookbusters pages are a cynical
attempt to frighten people.there is
absolutely no credibility whatever in
anything they have posted.
You are right to be aware of the need
for security and a degree of paranoia is
healthy and necessary. Be aware that
the green man has made enemies by his
truthfullness and several companies
send out the real genetics and these are a
target for both the authorities and
for the more unscrupulous of their
competitors.
Provided you follow the advice from
Aeric and other respected members of this
community you can be sure that you are
as safe as it is possible to be in a
hostile environment.
Time 09:06, 6 Dec 1998
From Nervous Nellie
Aeric77--If my ISP can read what I post
then it doesn't seem very difficult to find
me.After going through the proxy I'm
sure it gets tougher to find someone
but short of an anonymizer dialup service
it would seem like suicide to mention
anything illegal.Again, I'm a computer
illiterate and maybe I just don't
understand.Thanks for spending the time
to help me as I can't ask friends.
Time 08:57, 6 Dec 1998
From aeric77
NN,
I don't think there is a way to be totally
secure on the net....the best you can
hope for is to try to make it very expensive
to be tracked to your door......I think
anon will agree that with enough equiptment,
time, and money aperson can be
found.....the idea is to not be worth
finding.......so don't talk about the 621 plants
ya got growing and no one will give
a shit if you happen to have 2 plants growing
in the closet...
Time 05:50, 6 Dec 1998
From Nervous Nellie
I am so glad to see this internet security
discussion going on.I know very
little about this and have just recently
set up lpwa as my proxy.I got the
information about how to do it at a
Greenman's page.Just after setting it
up, though, I read a page at Spookbusters
that said that lpwa was run by the
government and Greenman was a Narc and
to not use lpwa.Strange thing
is that I just reread the Greenman page
and now they're not mentioning lpwa
anymore but give instructions on setting
up a different proxy.What's the
real deal? If I'm using lpwa right now
should I be OK?My ISP can read this,
can't they?And Vic says he goes through
Hotmail before going to any
pages--why?Do you actually check your
account and then log out or is
just running the main page good enough?I'm
anxious to jump into these
discussions but my freedom is more important
so your help would be greatly
appreciated.
Time -3:17, 6 Dec 1998
From aeric77
Yeah, I think you may be right...I can't remember.......67ed, I think
lpwa.com also has the setup instructions
for exploerer at their site and can walk
you thru it.....
Time -3:12, 6 Dec 1998
yes aeric, perfect.
although you may have to go to lpwa.com
first and sign-up for a username and
password before configuring your computer.
Time -3:09, 6 Dec 1998
BTW vic, i think you dont know what a
"real" hacker is. I don't post only
negatives but can reply in turn as well.
It is just really disgusting for me because i
KNOW 'who' posts 'what', ya know? Yes
it is hard to believe what levels men
stoop to. I don't post LIES. The only
thing you have to fear is the TRUTH! I am a
fellow grower too. Although I don't
have ANY plants on my premises NOR do I
know of the location of any plants,
foreign or domestic and I disavow any
knowledge of ANYTHING to which I am
party. Man I am STONED! peace
Time -3:08, 6 Dec 1998
From aeric77
hi.....67ed,
right click on the explorer icon on your desktop to bring up the
properties window then click on properties...then
click on advanced and go down
the list to cookies and check disble
all cookies then uncheck all java
boxes.....now click on the connection
tab and check the box for access the
internet using a proxy..then click on
the advanced tab beside it.....a proxy
address window will come up...in the
http addy box type lpwa.com and in the port
box beside it type 8000......now your
puter is set to use the lpwa proxy...the first
time you start your machine now it will
take you to the lpwa proxy page and you
will have to put in an email addy and
a password that you will have to use each
time you sign on to the web.....I suggest
you use a hotmail or lycaeum email
addy.....and don't forget your password....try
it...did I leave anything out Mr
anon? maybe you could help us all instead
of trying not to??????
Time -3:00, 6 Dec 1998
use lpwa.com for now and then subscribe
to a proxy server with a dial-up
connection that is not a toll call for
your area.
Time 19:52, 5 Dec 1998
From 67ed
Well then, how do I get anonymity for
explorer 4.n? Peace
Time 18:53, 5 Dec 1998
From 67ed
correction- I meant to say you could
recreate November at the 16th lat, not
October.
Time 18:50, 5 Dec 1998
From 67ed (painetom76@hotmail.com)
Ot, not all's lost! You realize, of course,
that by flowering using a greenhouse
darkening system in May-July, you could
recreate the sun's intensity at the 29th
lat in September, or the 16th lat in
Oct. I'm below the 40th, and not too far from
Eric, but I'm far from any ocean, and
the winter temps here might kill the hardiest
Englishman (oh, not really, but it is
much colder!) I'm into palm trees, and tried to
grow a European fan palm here outdoors
in the ground by wrapping it with
burlap in winter, but it lanquished
and died within two years. This same variety of
palm tree grows easily in England, and
often escapes cultivation there! And
Ericland (still above the 30th) isn't
all that favorable for cann., it's very humid
there, and is at a low altitude. Can
anyone help: I'm trying to get a proxy for
Explorer 4.n even though I'm nowhere
near "Sedalia". I spent 2 hours
downloading Netscape Navigator, and
when I tried to install it, there wasn't
enough memory left in my temp files
for installation. I'm using a fairly new Pent 2
with win 98. Peace
Time 14:26, 5 Dec 1998
From oldtimer1
Eric It is well documented that the most
potent natural cannabis plants come
from between the thirtieth parallels.
Reaching the most potent within 5 deg of the
equator and at the highest elevations
where the UV radiation is also he highest.
Thc is the best natural sunscreen known
and is thought to be an adaption to
protect the seed embryo from uvc. If
you take a high potency strain to England
and grow it with enough protection so
that seed is produced the next generation
will produce less thc and will mature
in a shorter time but still need protection to
produce seed. Given 4 or 5 generations
of doing this the plant will adapt to our
conditions produce seed naturally without
protection and instead of the original
10% thc will be producing less than
1% thc. This plant is just wonderful at
adapting to its environment. The reverse
was true when our government wanted
to produce cheap hemp fibre they decided
to stop growing hemp in Norfolk and
move production to the middle east using
slave labour. The first year a bumper
crop. the second year the plants only
made 7 or 8 ft instead of 12 to 15 ft and
had a lot of side branches instead of
being whips. by the third year they were
only 5 or 6 ft high very branched the
fibre to short for sail making apart from that
it had become very resinous. In the
end they had to produce seed every year in
the uk to send to the middle east and
the Admiralty ended up spending nearly
as much as they would have if they left
the production where it had been.
As far as you being far south you dont
know how lucky you are which is what I
was saying in my post. Ot1.
Time 12:25, 5 Dec 1998
From Lady J
hi all,
Remember, cannabis is a living thing
and not all aspects are cut-and-dry (no
pun intended). Some varieties will hermie
under stress, others do it in response
to genetic propensities. As far as potency
goes, find two people who can even
agree on what that means and I'll be
impressed. I prefer to think in terms of
cannabinoid profiles cbn,thc,cbd and
high "types" than just potency. Some of the
most enjoyable pot is not always simply
the most potent. But then, I try to
apporach things from a holistic view
rather than right/wrong, or better/worse. If
you know what you like, want, and prefer
in a plant then you can strive towards
that end. What one person likes, you
may find less than desirable and vice
versa.
Peace
Time 11:11, 5 Dec 1998
From trelaway
Thought I'd wade into this one with a
thought. If stress is a contributing factor for
herms (im not saying it is, just that
it's current theory)would it stand reasoning
that the outdoor clone would run a higher
risk of self-fertilization?
And many say an earlier harvest(high
white hair ratio) creates a trippier/more
paranoid stone: so maybe the aging process
of the plant makes it increasingly
desirable to animals that eat it. Kinda
like fermenting fruit draws birds.
Time 11:03, 5 Dec 1998
From ERIC
Munty,
No i would not do that...
but i read somewhere I think it was
written by ED Roasantal...
seems like he mentioned that there was
a process of stressing an outdoor plant
by removing leaves...I would never recomend
doing this..
unless maybe if you had your plants
in your back yard and you experimented
with it ..
My main concern has always been having
buds PIEROD...
As for potency I never stripped leaves
or anything else..i tried to make it
a nice and as stressless of a life as possable
Its just life protecti9ng itself.
Time 10:39, 5 Dec 1998
From Munty
ERIC
Taking your idea to its natural conclusion:
are you saying we should make it as
difficult for the plants as possible
when growing indoors in order to increase
potency?
If it could be done safely it would
be a lot of fun! Bring the outdoors indoors...
Time 10:29, 5 Dec 1998
From aeric77
Eric,
your diction appears to have improved this am........do
you think the force feeding and high
levels of co2, along with all the other
methods used to increase growth rates
using hydro, might also make the plants
feel battered around and thus produce
more thc than normal......and wouldn't
growing outside be the norm?
Time 08:45, 5 Dec 1998
From ERIC
Oltimer,
I dont understand your post...
Im far south man....
this is the way i understand plants
and potency..
look at a pepper plant for instance..a
pepper plant uses the hotness in its skin to
protect the seeds inside the pepper,
if you start eating the pepper from the
bottom end and work your way up..it
gets hotter and hotter the farther upwards
you eat.
its because the seeds are in the very
top of the pepper and the plant is using
the oil in the skin to make it hot so
that animals will leave it and the seeds
alone...
now after the pepper gets ripe..the
seeds are mature and then animals can eat
the pepper and deposit the seeds along
their journey
POT is the same
but THC is the protection..if you eat
to much you get sick..and if an animal goes
to eat a bud it will not like the feeling
it gets and the sickness that goes with it..
so it learns not to eat the buds..
so the plant uses THC to protect itself from being killed..
Therefore if the plant is in a more dangerous
..life threting enviroment it will
produce mORE THC, which inturn makes
the buds more potent.
now take two clones from the same MOM
leave one inside ..in a controlled enviroment
with all the love and care it can
stand...no worries.
and compare it to a clone placed outside
where grasshoppers are eating leaves
and jumping from branches...
spiders biuld webs inbetween branches
rain beatin down on her..storms blowing
her to the ground...drought...over
watering....malnutrition....
It will produce a more potent protection
for itself...
Time 19:33, 4 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Mota - I too have have found that I get
better buds when MH is added to the
mixture.
Lady J - surprise surprise eh?
Anon 1743 - you must think you are speaking
with the ignorant. Most pages
keep a log of where you came from and
where you go next while surfing. A
couple of web-site operators have emailed
me thanking me for linking their page
to mine and have mentioned that a good
deal of their customers come from
BCGA. They know this from those typical
logs.
Knowing that there are individuals such
as yourself out there trying to flex their
egos, I usually make hotmail a stop
between all webpage stops so that you can't
see where I came from and where I go
from here. I pick hotmail simply because
their front page loads quickly. Still
waiting for the email. A real hacker would be
able to email me at my legit ISP :)
Time 19:01, 4 Dec 1998
From superunknow
hi i am waninting to grow hydro can you
give em some pointers
Time 17:43, 4 Dec 1998
vic always reads his e-mail before he
comes here. vic is a creature of habit
Time 17:08, 4 Dec 1998
From oldtimer1
Mota Were the clones from the same mum?
Eric They would'nt be if you were 52%
north you have no idea what its like. Ot1
Time 13:46, 4 Dec 1998
From ERIC
HAHAHAHAA
sorry Vic..but this set up has got me
thinkin about somethin
Mota...thats cool...everything i have
ever had inside or outside was always better
outside...
Time 11:40, 4 Dec 1998
From Mota
White Widow Update:
2 clones flowered
1 indoors under 80W sq.ft (400W MH)
1 outdoors
Both harvested at approx. 10 weeks.
Dried and cured for 5 weeks.
The outdoor had a better smell and taste,
but to my surprise the WW under the
MH has a stronger high/stone.I believe
this is the "edge" that Oldtimer is
talking about.Any comments?
Time -1:18, 4 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Eric - you have alot of questions, but
this is new to me and I have little in the way
of answers. I was just a meare tourist
passing on what I saw. But I'm just as
stoked as you. Had a meeting with my
partner tonight and we are thinking of
playing with the ideas though :)
ky-skank- I've yet to harvest sweet tooth
so I have little advice to offer. I'm not
sure if this helps, since it is unavailable,
but the grapefruit mother of sweet tooth
blows romberry out of the water with
respect to potency when grown under high
intensity lumens. They are somewhat
comparable in my garden.
Budm - glad all is working out. I remember
many instances of not being sure
what was happening with the garden.
Hell I remeber not knowing when I should
water for fear of root rot. Hell, the
garden was so dry, a cactus would have been
thirsty, haha. Now it's second nature.
I'm sure sexing preflowers will be second
nature for you from now on and you'll
get a chuckle next time you read a post
asking the same questions, haha. I guess
what I'm trying to say is that I thought
nothing bad of your posts. Just happy
for ya.
Anon 20:20 - what the hell is walla walla?
Is that another name for coastnet?
Sure, just to prove a point, I'm still
posting without a proxy, and still no-one has
had the ability to email me at my legit
ISP email account. I'm making it as easy for
you as I can. Want me to print the addy
for you?
Time 13:17, 2 Dec 1998
From lunchtime poster
ky, go with the cinderella 88 from brothers
grimm.it has a somewhat fruity
taste and a most excellent sativa buzz.
it does cost a bit more than the upper
end of your price range ($85/10 last
i heard) but is well worth every penny and
the speed of delivery is incomparable.
Time 12:56, 2 Dec 1998
From ky-skank (asiffredi@hotmail.com)
looking for an opinion on the sweet-tooth
strain from s.o.l (taste,potency) Vic,
how does your romberry compare in these
two areas? I'm looking for an
exceptionally fruity tasting strain
with much potency for around $50-$60per 10
seeds.(strapped for cash!) any suggestions?
Thanks!
Time -2:36, 2 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Eric - yep - fishtank water instead of
tap water. and yep - roots just hung in the
airwith no added support. they just
follow the water down and therefore stay wet.
Trelaway - I'm another who would be interested in hearing of your results.
Aeric - I too have had one of those monsters.
When growing out romberry, I'm
usually more interested in selecting
males, but one girl (RBL-4) caught my eye.
Hate to tease you bud, but the clones
from her are even better! It's now as big
as a 1L coke bottle and looks as it
may finish as big as a 2L coke bottle. This
would be a first in my low light mushroom
patch..
sb- how ya doing bud?
Time 20:32, 1 Dec 1998
From aeric77
hello trelaway,
I grew out some of Viv's Romberry and they were all excellent but I
had one that was a monster 4' tall and
only one single cola 4' tall......and in my
usual lazy fashion i didn't take any
cuts.....so make sure you take at least one
cut from each female as a possible mother.....still
kicking myself for letting it get
away......
Time 20:03, 1 Dec 1998
From trelaway
My ten BCGA blue and romberry took ten
days to arrive from Heaven's stairway
and Richard answered my emails within
24 hours.
If anyone's interested I'll be starting
them shortly after X-mas.
Time 15:22, 1 Dec 1998
From ERIC
Vic..
this 3 foot area for the roots...was
it water or air....from reading your description it
sounds like air.
If so were there misters spraying the
roots in the area????
was there some sort of plastic mesh for
the roots to sit on at every foot length ? or were
they just hanging the whole three feet.
Time 13:08, 1 Dec 1998
From ERIC
Vic..
are you saying that it started out with
water from the fish tank and that was pumped into
another resavoir that led to the tubes.
instead of tap water he started with
fish tank water????
Time 12:52, 1 Dec 1998
From bb
ya he feeds them normal fish food pellets....as
for the emitters its all just filtered pretty
good.........but yathey still clog..
:((
Time -1:08, 1 Dec 1998
From sb
I just wanted to sayhello!
Vic .......whatup G?
Time -2:07, 1 Dec 1998
From Vic High
Hey guys, just back from Vansterdam.
Finally got to meet with Breeder Steve.
He's quite a generous guy with his time,
and boy can he roll big joints! He rolled
a J of brand X that must have been a
whole 8th! Rope will get me stoned, so that
was way out of my league.
What did get my attention was his aquaponic
setup that he calls "The
Sweetwater System".It employs a double
res setup, one typical, and one
being a fish tank loaded with fish.
Water in the two res's are exchanged
regularily (something like every hour).
He says he never cleans his fish tank, as
all the plants and bottom feeders use
up all wastes. Plants are fed with drip
emmitters via the typical res. pH doesn't
fluctuate and the ppms remain between
300 and 400.
Now these drip emmitters fed two setups.
One was a traditional "dutch pot"
system. You know, the one where each
plant is grown on a 5 gallon pail? He
used a 5 or 6 inch basket that was 3/4
filled with those red balls (I think they are
an expanded clay called "hyrotron"?).
Steve then covered the red balls with 1"
layer of a blend of worm castings and
"Steve's Special Blend". The Special
Blend (2-6-5) is an organic mix comprised
of green sand, rock phosphate, fruit
bat quano, feather meal, steamed bone
meal- regular & fine, kelp meal,
sunflower seed hull ash, canola seed
meal, cotton seed meal, alfalfa meal,
langbeinite, corn gluten meal, pyro
clay, diatomaceous earth, and calcium
peroxide. Initially, the low nitrogen
surprised me, but then after I thought about it,
I realized that the plants were probably
getting all the nitrogen they needed from
the fish tank. I believe there was an
air stone in teh bottom of each pail. Seven
weeks ago Steve planted tomato seeds
into the medium and now the plants are
3 feet tall and have softball sized
green tomatoes on them. WOW!
The second setup was basically a large
table, 4' high, covered with something
like 1/4" dense plastic. Holes were
cut in it to hold the 4" or 5" net cups. Again
the cups were filled with the reddish
clay balls and topped with the special blend
and worm castings. Again the net baskets
were fed with drip emitters. What
interested me is what happened under
those net cups.
A large pond liner tarp was suspended
under the net cups to catch the water
and funnel it back into the typical
res. There was about 3' between the bottom of
the net cups and the bottom of the tarp.
And you know what this means?????
LOTSA ROOM FOR ROOTS! Big roots equal
big buds in my book. This feature
had me totally stoked!
I'm one that has had little respect for
the hydroponic side of our hobby for some
time. I've watched others playing with
the large numbers of clones and shaken
my head (legal risk). I've watched them
fight pH drifts and shaken my head. I've
watched them fight root rot and shaken
my head. I've watched them lose entire
crops due to pump or power failures
and shaken my head. I've watched them
pumping in the chems (hurting the environment)
and shaken my head. I've
watched them be proud of their 1-2 lbs
per light in their high intensity gardens
and shaken my head. Well I've stopped
shaking my head for this one. Steve's
way of working with the Dutch Pot system
seems to take care of all my
hydroponic concerns. I just wish I wasn't
too stoned to have asked him what he
fed his fish and why his emmitters didn't
clog.
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