Announcement from Scoutstuff.org (Oct. 13, 2000)
The 2001 National Scout Jamboree Official merchandise catalog will be available to all registered
participants and staff in February. In order to provide everyone with an equal opportunity to get what they want, we will start taking orders March 1st. A listing of available items will be posted at Scoutstuff.org in December.
For those Jamboree buffs that just have to have something now to promote the Jamboree, we have a special selection of items under the theme, "Meet Me at the Hill". These items are NOT restricted to participants and staff, so everyone can enjoy a little Jamboree spirit. You can even order custom patches, T-shirts, and other items with this logo NOW. A complete list of stock items will be posted here in November. You can purchase "Meet Me" merchandise through your local Distributors and Scout Shops, or by calling 1-800-323-0732.
I have not had time to get everything on this site organized,
so search to find specific information!
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MEMO TO PARENTS - May 25, 2001
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All Jamboree participants have been given a certificate good for 15% off all of their personal purchases at the Scout Shop. If you have lost yours, contact your Jamboree leaders.
Troop 1523 Schedule --- updated July 12 |
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December 9
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Saturday
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Scout Interviews 9am-5:15pm
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January 7
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Sunday
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Adult Troop Leader Mtg. 3-5pm
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January 15
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Monday
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Committee Formation Mtg. 7:30-9pm
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January 21
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Sunday
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First Troop Meeting 3-5pm
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February 18
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Sunday
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Second Troop Meeting 3-5pm
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March 18
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Sunday
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Third Troop Meeting 3-5pm Medical Forms Are Due!
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April 22
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Sunday
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Fourth Troop Meeting 3-5pm
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April 28
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Saturday
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Picnic Table Assembly at Bert Adams, 9am-2pm
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May 20
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Sunday
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Fifth Troop Meeting 3-5pm
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June 1-3
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Fri-Sun
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Shakedown at Woodruff MANDATORY!
4:00pm Arrival on Friday!
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June 17
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Sunday
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CANCELLED!
Will be July 8
NO Troop Meeting!
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July 8
*** NOTE DATE CHANGE!!! ***
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Sunday
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Last Troop Meeting 3-5pm
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July 13
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Friday
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Pick up troop picnic tables at Bert Adams and transport to Cummins/Onan South Power Systems for loading (see below for directions).
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July 14
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Saturday
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*** Truck loading ***
All personal, patrol, and troop gear (except what is needed in Washington for sightseeing) must be loaded on the truck at this time! No one will be allowed to check any baggage at the airport.
NEW LOCATION!!! 10am-12noon at Cummins/Onan South Power Systems at
5125 Highway 85
College Park, GA 30349-5976
Telephone: (404) 763-0228
Emergency Telephone Contact: (404) 765-5189
South of Atlanta proceed South on I-75 to I-285.
Get onto I-285 WESTBOUND and then immediately exit to Clark Howell Highway - SOUTHBOUND.
Follow Clark Howell Hwy (it twists and turns - you are actually on Mirrow Road until you come to the traffic light, where you must make a right turn to get on Clark Howell Hwy.)
Immediately south of the Sullivan Road traffic light turn RIGHT onto BLALOCK INDUSTRIAL BLVD.
Directly to your left the truck trailer will be in a fenced area - already visible.
Use the 2nd driveway.
Click here for a map!
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July 15
*** CHANGED TO JULY 8!!! ***
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Sunday
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NO Troop Meeting!
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July 20
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Friday
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Depart for Washington, D.C.
Troop 1523 departs Hartsfield Airport at 6:20am on Delta flight #638 (arrives Washington-Dulles at 8:05am).
All Troop 1523 members must be in the South Terminal across from the Hourly Parking Deck elevator NO LATER THAN 4:50am!!!
Parents should plan to say goodbye to their sons at this location.
NO ONE IS TO CHECK ANY BAGGAGE!!! We are not stopping in the Washington-Dulles Airport baggage claim when we arrive!
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August 1
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Wednesday
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Return to Atlanta from Reagan-National Airport
Delta Flight #623 - Depart 2:05pm / Arrive 4:04pm
Parents should meet their Scouts at the arrival gate!
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August 4
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Saturday
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Unload Truck - Time and Location TBA
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Troop 1523 is scheduled to meet in the Troop 764 Scout Hut in the basement of St. Luke's Presbyterian Church, 1978 Mt. Vernon Road, Dunwoody, GA 30338.
Click here to find out where St. Luke's is located.
Click here for directions from your location to St. Luke's.
SPL |
Scott Owens |
ASPL |
Eric Sample |
Quartermaster |
Lee Wert |
Scribe |
Nick Hoffmann |
*** OFFICIAL SCOUT CLOTHING ONLY!!! ***
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Full Class "A" Uniform for:
Travel & Sightseeing
Dinner Meals at Jambo
Arena Shows
Other Formal Occasions
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Scout shirt (tan only)
(3 recommended) with:
Jamboree patch *
Jamboree JSP **
Troop numeral **
U.S. Flag
World Crest
Rank patch
Patrol patch
Any earned knots
Arrow of Light (if applicable)
Interpreter Strip (if applicable)
Position patch
Trained patch
Nameplate #
Red epaulets
Temporary patch
No Quality Unit patch
Light blue troop neckerchief # (will receive the official Jamboree neckerchief at Ft. A.P. Hill)
Troop woggle (neckerchief slide)
Jamboree ball cap
Scout shorts (any official shorts) (2-3 recommended)
Scout belt (leather or webbed)
Scout socks (any official red top socks)
Proper & comfortable closed-toe shoes
Red nylon water-repellent jacket (optional)
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Class "B" Field Uniform at all other times:
Jamboree ball cap or bucket hat
Troop or Jambo t-shirt (designated daily) (8 troop t-shirts purchased with your dues and 2 official Jamboree t-shirts you must order)
Scout shorts only!
Scout socks only!
Scout belt
Proper & comfortable closed-toe shoes
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Only Scout-related clothing or Scout suitable clothing will be allowed in our camp site! No school logo clothing, no clothing with political statements or anything controversial, no commercial logos, etc. If you have to ask if it's appropriate, then it's probably not.
Class "A" or Class "B" uniform MUST be worn everytime you leave our camp site.
The official uniform must be worn during travel, sightseeing, arena shows, dinner meals, and other formal occasions.
NO EXPLORER OR VENTURING UNIFORMING IS ALLOWED!
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* - 2 provided as part of your Jamboree fee
** - 3 provided as part of your Jamboree fee
# - 1 provided as part of your Jamboree fee
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To be eligible Boy Scouts or Varsity Scouts must be First Class rank and have either completed the sixth grade or be age 12 by July 1, 2001, and not age 18 by August 2, 2001 (Note: this was originally stated by national as September 1, 2001). To experience Jambo at its fullest, twelve year olds should be mature for their age.
Other requirements include: participating in the pre-jambo training experience (troop meetings and campout), filing a Personal Health and Medical Record Form Class 3, No. NSJ-34412-01, being active in a troop or crew for at least six months before July 1, 2001, be approved by your Scoutmaster or Varsity Scout Coach, and be approved by the local council jamboree committee.
Adult Troop Leader Requirements
DATES:
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July 20 - August 1, 2001
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TRAVEL PLANS:
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The Atlanta Area Council jamboree contingent will leave early morning on July 20th and fly to Washington, D.C., where we will start touring our nation's capitol.
While in Washington ample time will be allowed to tour the Smithsonian Institute, the White House, and many more of the federal offices, such as the FBI and the Capitol. On July 22nd we will travel to Colonial Williamsburg. We will leave for the Jamboree on July 23rd.
We will camp at the Jamboree until the morning of August 1st when we will return to Washington, D.C., for the return flight to Atlanta.
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ORGANIZATION:
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Scouts are members of a Jamboree troop consisting of 36 Scouts and four adult leaders. You are a member of a patrol within the troop just like in your home troop.
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TOTAL COST:
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$1,300
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PAYMENT SCHEDULE:
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Reservation Fee
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$50
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Due with application
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First Payment
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$250.00
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July 31, 2000
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Second Payment
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$250.00
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September 15, 2000
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Third Payment
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$250.00
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December 15, 2000
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Fourth Payment
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$250.00
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February 1, 2001
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Fifth & Final Payment
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$250.00
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April 1, 2001
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FEE INCLUDES:
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The Jamboree fee covers all transportation, tours, admission fees, meals, lodging, and patrol and troop equipment, as well as insurance. Your fee also covers the training camp before the Jamboree. The only additional expense will be your personal equipment, uniforms, souvenirs, spending money, and any additional items your troop may elect to purchase, such as troop t-shirts.
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REFUND POLICY:
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If you sign up for the Jamboree and then find that you cannot attend, you will receive a full refund from the Atlanta Area Council only if there is an alternate to take your place.
In the event there is not an alternate, a partial refund may be made depending on expenses related to contractual agreements made on your behalf.
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Two Official Patches -- First Time Ever! |
For the first time ever there will be two official jamboree patches. A red bordered patch is for participants and junior staff under 18 years of age, while a gold bordered patch will be for participants over 18 and adult staff members.
Youth Patch
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Adult Patch
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Each participant will receive two patches. The first patch will be distributed in January or February, 2001, but only if you are current with your fee payments!

Troop 1523 JSP
One of seven 2001 Atlanta Area Jamboree Patches
Click here to see all the patches!
-- If You Are In the Atlanta Area Council -- |
After selection committee interviews and based on the requirements listed below, the troop leadership was selected and held its first meeting on Wednesday, September 6, 2000, with monthly meetings held on the second Wednesday of every month.
Here are the leaders for Troop 1523:
Frank Mills, SM, Earl Owens, 1SA, Kevin Murphy, 2SA, and Andrew Miller, 3SA
Following were the requirements for each adult position:
All adult leaders must: Have served actively in an adult troop leadership position for at least one year during the three year period prior to July 1, 2001; participate in the "Jamboree '01" prejamboree training experience, file a personal health and medical record prior to the prejamboree training, participate in the Youth Protection Training for volunteer leaders, and be approved by the local council.
Scoutmaster: Have served as Scoutmaster for at least one year during the three year period prior to July 1, 2001; have completed Boy Scout Leader Fast Start and Scoutmastership Fundamentals, No. 34550. (Although not required, Wood Badge and/or Scoutmaster's Key is a desirable qualification.) The Scoutmaster must be able to serve as a role model of physical fitness.
First Assistant Scoutmaster: Same qualifications as Scoutmaster.
Second Assistant Scoutmaster: At least 21 years of age by July 1, 2001.
Third Assistant Scoutmaster: At least 18 years of age (but not have reached 21) by July 1, 2001.
For answers to any questions regarding applications and procedures, call the Council Program Center at (404) 577-4811.
For those of you seeking specific Jamboree information, the 2001 National Scout Jamboree Council
Jamboree Guide and the promotion video, A Scout's Odyssey, are already in your council office.
Additional jamboree guidebooks will be released according to the following schedule:
Transportation and Tour Guide
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January, 2000
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Public Relations Guide
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January, 2000
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Health and Safety Guide
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February, 2000
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Staff Guide
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June, 2000
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Troop Leader Guide
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July, 2000
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Subcamp Operations Guide (new)
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September, 2000
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Scout Participation Guide
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March, 2001
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Menu and Cooking Guide
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April, 2001
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Jamboree bulletins will be mailed monthly beginning January, 2000.
To view the monthly Jamboree bulletins go to the
Scenic Trails Council web site (Adobe .pdf format) or the
Mississippi Valley Council web site (.html format and indexed by subject).
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Troop 1523 will be located in subcamp 15 in the Mahone area of the Jamboree. This is a much better location than in 1997 and is very close to Action Center "A", the Environmental and Conservation Area, Jamboree Hqrs., and is about a mile closer to the arena shows. Also the Jambo busses will pass right by our location.
Jambo 2001 will be an international experience for the Atlanta troops. We have been assigned 8 Scouts and a leader from Sweden. These Scouts will be assigned to each of our troops. So brush up on your Swedish.
Vi ses på Jambo!
UNIFORMING:
The following patches may be worn on the National Jamboree Uniform:
Jamboree Logo Patch (red for youth, gold for adults)(right breast)
Jamboree JSP
Jamboree unit number
Jamboree position
Trained patch (provided the participant is trained for their jamboree position)
Patrol patch
All other normal uniform patches of rank for youth
Nameplate
OA lodge flap, if applicable
The subcamp patch may be worn on the right pocket as a temporary patch
Adults may wear the appropriate region patch on their right sleeve
Staff wears their home uniform with the Jamboree logo patch unless dictated
otherwise by their director
ARENA SHOW PROGRAMS (still subject to change):
Opening show - Jessica Simpson
Closing show - Louise Mandrell and Osmonds Second Generation (5 of the kids -
all Eagle Scouts)
Jamboree ID Smart Cards will contain encoded information about each participant. They will have basic ID and medical information. The cards will be color-coded by region. A Scout with the appropriately colored card can participate in activities at his region's activity
center. These cards will be produced at A.P. Hill by the Army. Look for increased military security throughout the Jamboree.
Also, the ticket system used for selected 1997 Jamboree activities will be expanded in 2001. This will help spread out attendance at certain popular events and give priority to those with tickets. Those without tickets will be admitted as space permits.
Boating activities, scuba and snorkeling, and some special exhibits will also require a ticket. Tickets for these activities will be issued to troops on the day of arrival at the jamboree site. Ticketing will allow maximum participation while keeping the number of people manageable for the staff of the areas involved. Ticketing also helps Scoutmasters know who is participating in the activities so they can encourage Scouts to participate. The subcamp scheduler also will set up a system for Scoutmasters to exchange or obtain tickets (as available) for use by Scouts.
Subcamp activities will consist of jamboball, a 5K run, and other activities. Equipment can be checked out from the subcamp activities area. These activities should be informal, pickup-type events with no winners or losers. Interaction within and between patrols and troops is encouraged.
Four 5K runs will be conducted simultaneously, one in each region, at 7:30p.m. on Tuesday, July 24. The events are fun runs/walks. Scouts and Scouters are encouraged to participate, and everyone who completes the course will receive a recognition. Water and first aid will be available on each course, and the course will be free of moving vehicles. No special
recognitions will be given for best times. Scouts who normally do not run should be cautioned not to overexert themselves.
Plans are in the works to set up wireless e-mail at each region - 50 terminals at each. Every Scout and leader will be assigned a private e-mail address for use at the Jamboree.
The bus system will be expanded to include busses running on Travis Lake Road - one way only (west to east) with 60-80 busses in total used only for participant and staff transportation. This will provide convenient access to the water-related activities for the Atlanta Area Council troops.
The Emergency Phone Number for contacting the Jamboree site has changed to (804) 633-1000.
FOOD SERVICES - 11 kiosks will serve fresh lunches daily from 11 to 2. Everyone will receive dated tickets for the lunches. Aramark will provide the food service in a 30x40 foot tent with serving on 3 sides. On the first day Jamboree troops will pick up lunches for everyone - it will not be individual service.
In earlier years the Jamboree lunch often was the same sort of thing you would get on the trail at Philmont. This year look for fresh food, like sandwiches, fruit, etc. You won't have to carry your lunch with you - just go pick it up when you're hungry!
Lunches will consist of the following:
Ham & Cheese on a bagel
Ham & Cheese Sub
Turkey
Salami and Cheese
Ham
Roast Beef
Chicken
Bologna
Peanut Butter & Jelly
If someone you know will be experiencing a special occasion during the Jamboree you can order an "All Occasion" cake with the Jamboree logo. Sorry, but you cannot personalize it with names, message, date, etc.
An example of a folding cart which can be used to carry your gear and pick up your food can be viewed here: See Equipment/Food Cart
Following is a statement handed out at a meeting with heads of the Special Foods Group:
"The hot sticky Virginia winds of change have blown in a cool fresh
idea for the 2001 National Scout Jamboree. Imagine after a fun filed
morning at the action center with the sun starting to sizzle, you stop by a
conveniently located Kiosk and pick up a fresh lunch with an ice cold drink
inside.
After two years of testing and the help of Scouts and leaders at the
Robert E. Lee Council in Richmond, Virginia, a plan has taken shape that
will provide a fresh lunch between the hours of 11:00 am and 2 pm. Eleven
strategic sites have been identified as Kiosk locations.
The concept is a cooperative effort between the Food Services
Group's Special Food Service headed by Chairman John Rodriquez, Director
Jerry Dehoney, Kiosk manager David Dobbs and Regional Commissary staffs. A
team from the commissary will work with a Kiosk manager from the Special
Food Service to operate the Kiosks.
Lunches will be packed in Richmond and will arrive at night on
refrigerated trucks that will be stationed next to the Kiosks. The Kiosks
will be a 30 x 40 awning-style tent with counter access for serving on three
sides. Kiosks will have signage for easy identification and will be noted
on the map contained in the Scout guide.
Scouts, leaders and selected staff members will be issued tickets
for the lunches. The tickets (similar to a plastic key tag) will be
attached to a key ring lanyard and simply twist-off. The tickets are
color-coded for each day.
Lunches because they are fresh will need to be consumed immediately
after they are issued and the waste properly disposed in a nearby
receptacle.
On your day of arrival a fresh lunch will be waiting for pick-up and
issued in lots of 40 for the entire troop. A special certificate or ticket
will be issued to contingents. A few scouts from each troop can stop by a
pre-assigned (day of arrival only) Kiosk and receive the lunches for the
troop.
Note: In the Troop Leader Guide it stated that the lunch on day of
arrival would be issued from the commissary, this will now take place at the
Kiosk.
The Food Service Group is very excited about the opportunity to work
with the subcamp commissary staff and provide a fresh new concept in feeding
at the 2001 National Scout Jamboree."
MORE FOOD SERVICES INFORMATION - Regarding special foods at the Jamboree - Only those who have already submitted a request for a kosher diet (form was due by February 15, 2001) will receive special meals. Anyone else requiring a special diet is on their own.
The Jamboree Staff and Subcamp Guides say:
If there are special food needs, because of medical reasons, you should first advise the jamboree medical officer of your situation and ascertain that you are eligible to attend the jamboree. After medical permission is granted, or if your dietary needs are of a religious nature other than kosher, you should make your own arrangements to meet that need. You can do this by bringing nonperishable food with you, much as you would medications. You can also buy food at local supermarkets in Bowling Green or Fredericksburg.
The Subcamp Guide further says:
A limited service is available through the Special Food Service to purchase items not provided through the regular food service. Special purchase officers will purchase items (if available) locally. Payment for special purchases must be made in advance to your subcamp commissary officer. Allow at least 24 hours for special items.
JAMBOREE MEDICAL FORMS:
Clarification of the statement on the official National Scout Jamboree
Personal Health and Medical Forms (NSJ34412-01).
The medical form states the ORIGINAL should be brought to the Jamboree;
however, after the forms were printed, a scanning system was implemented
changing the procedure. As stated in the cover letter sent with the forms,
the ORIGINAL UNFOLDED medical form MUST be sent to the national
office in bulk to be scanned and a COPY TAKEN TO THE JAMBOREE site with
each participant and staff member.
Councils must send completed medical form ORIGINALS for the entire council
contingent to the National Scout Jamboree Medical Officer by Tuesday,
May 1, 2001. If there are any subsequent medical problems from time of the
physical until the Jamboree, the parents are to note their copy of the
medical form and resubmit it to the council office, and give a revised copy
to the troop leaders. DO NOT FOLD THE ORIGINAL MEDICAL FORM!
These medical forms are to be used by Scouts, leaders, and staff. At the
Jamboree the Jamboree Health and Safety Service will issue to each Scout,
leader, and staff member a SmartCard with a link to vital identification
and medical information. In order to scan the medical form into the
database, only the original medical form will be accepted.
Jamboree medical forms for the Atlanta Area Council will not be distributed
until sometime in January. Atlanta Area Council participants must fill out
this original medical form using a black ink pen and have a physical examination
between December 1, 2000, and April 1, 2001 (or due date of the form, whichever
is later). The unfolded original form should be returned to your
Jamboree troop leaders by April 2, 2001, or other date in April as established
by your troop leaders.
PLEASE WRITE LEGIBLY! Participants should make a copy for their records before
submitting the medical form to their troop leaders. After collecting all
medical forms the troop leaders will make copies and give the originals to
the council office. These copies can be used for summer camp or for other
purposes. The original will not be returned.
Jamboree staff should return their unfolded original medical forms to the
director of their assigned area or other designated person. This information should
have been included with the medical form sent to you.
If council staff has any questions, call Ed Woodlock, Jamboree Medical
Officer, (972) 580-2447.
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MEDICAL ALERTS:
Any person with the following medical conditions:
cardiac history, high blood pressure, diabetes melitus (with insulin or
oral medication), obesity, asthma, sickle-cell anemia, hemophilia, severe
blood dyscrasia, HIV infection, epileptic seizures, convulsions,
physical disability, or psychiatric illness, must submit a request
for a medical alert using the form on the back page of the medical
form.
This form should be signed by a health care practitioner, photocopied
and the photocopy sent to Boy Scouts of America, Jamboree Medical Officer,
S212, 1325 West Walnut Hill Lane, P.O. Box 152079, Irving, TX 75015-2079
by April 30, 2001. The original must be left attached to the original
medical form and turned in to your Jamboree troop leaders.
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VACCINATIONS:
Hepatitis B immunizations, while not required for participants 18 and older, are recommended for everyone (as Scouts and Scouters active in the outdoors, there is a high likelyhood of exposure to blood at one time or another).
In section III please note that the hepatitis B immunization is required
for youth under 18. If the six to seven month series of shots has not been
completed, have the doctor note that the immunization is in progress. If a
youth's parents or doctor object to the hepatitis B immunization, have them
note such on the medical form. No youth will be turned away for not having
the hepatitis B immunization.
The Lyme disease shots are not recommended. While there are lots of deer ticks at Fort A.P. Hill, they are no more prevalent then any woodsy area in Georgia. If Scouts stay out of the woods ("KEEP OUT" signs are posted and major tick areas are treated before arrival), and daily tick checks are encouraged, then lyme disease would be a minor threat. Additionally, there are some medical concerns about the long-term effects of the current vaccine.
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From the Leader's Handbook for the 2001 National Jamboree.
"Immunization requirements are based on recommendations of the U.S.
Public Health Service. All participants must provide proof of
immunization for tetanus within 10 years (since 1991). In addition,
youth participants must provide verification of the following
immunizations since birth: (1) measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR); (2)
polio vaccine (oral or injection); (3) diphtheria, pertussis, and
tetanus (DPT); and (4) chicken pox. It is recommended BUT NOT REQUIRED,
that immunizations for hepatitis B and Lyme disease (for persons 15
years of age and older) be considered."
See note above about hepatitis B immunizations.
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JAMBOREE HEALTH FORM INFORMATION UPDATE (Personal Health and Medical
Record, No. NSJ-34412-0l) (March, 2001, Information):
1) Health forms are due to National by May 1st.
2) Original must be sent.
3) Section V has three sub-sections:
a) Two "yes/no" questions at the top.
b) Medications update. Immediately prior (within 30 days) to the
jamboree please complete the information about medications on the
photocopy of the original and bring to the jamboree, where medical
staff will review it.
c) The usual parental medical treatment release and certification that all the
information on the form is correct to their knowledge. This section should
be SIGNED BY THE PARENTS (if applicant is under age 18) BEFORE SUBMITTING
to National. Applicants should also sign the form. Parents sign the
original copy. THIS IS A SIGNATURE FOR THE ENTIRE FORM, not just this section.
4) In section III please note that the hepatitis B immunization is required
for youth under 18. If the six to seven month series of shots has not been
completed, have the doctor note that the immunization is in progress. If a
youth's parents or doctor object to the hepatitis B immunization, have them
note such on the medical form. No youth will be turned away for not having
the hepatitis B immunization.
5) In section VI, the laboratory requirements for fasting blood glucose,
hemoglobin, and urine are not required for any participant under 18. They
are required for any participant or staff member 18 or older.
6) What about folded forms? Submit them anyway. There are around 40,000
forms to be computer scanned. Think of the problem it would be to process
40,000 forms that have been folded, spindled, mutilated, or have attachments
stapled to them! Nowhere does it say folded forms would not be accepted. It has
simply been requested that forms not be folded or items attached. The only
"must" is in regard to sending in the originals.
7) What will happen if your forms are a little late? Probably nothing. They are
not likely to review and scan all the forms in one day! Late forms will
just go to the back of the queue.
Would you like to voice your opinion regarding the Jamboree?
Doug Gentry, host of the Bowline jamboree discussion list, has indicated the national jamboree staff is interested in the thoughts of participants regarding various Jamboree issues.
He has set up the "Voice of the Scouter" survey form on the Bowline list to take your input. Remember, when making comments, the Jambo is for the Scouts and your thoughts should reflect this.
If you have an opinion, you can share it at:
http://www.bowline.org/html/survey.html
You can post your opinion, see the cumulative tally, and read others' opinions.
See you at the
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