November 99 Postings
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Shawn - 12/03/99 20:08:53
My Email:googaboo@uswest.net
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
WEEK 5 of Accutane treatment -- Everything good. Like the fact that my makeup doesn't smudge anymore....everything's good though. Eyes are no longer dry. Little dry redness on the neck though -- but I just moisturize that after washing. I wash 2 times
a day with the Neutrogena Oil Free Acne Face Wash -- then moisturize w/ the Neitrogena Moisture for sensitive skin. I also use St. Ives Apricot Scrub in the shower -- great exfoliator. Well, gotta go -- we're getting a blizzard (you Aussies are lucky) a
d my car is stuck at the end of our driveway -- must go shovel.
RoXy - 12/03/99 19:26:06
Comments:
SORRY.
RoXy - 12/03/99 19:24:45
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: HurleyGirlie
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi. Some people have been asking about those red marks and I thought I would share some information I leraned from my dermatologist. He assured to me that the red marks, called erythamous macules, always fade away 4-6 months after the treatment in over.
They are red, along with the rest of our face, because the blood vessels in the skin are constricted. To SHARON- my dermatologist told me not to use moisturizer because the peeling is good...but I am not super dry so it doesnt bother me at all. I was w
mdering how many girls posting are on birth control and accutane at he same time...please reply...and I hope this info is helpful
Week 12 and two very small white bumps that are fading...while the red marks are not yet.....but they WILL!!
RoXy - 12/03/99 19:23:57
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: HurleyGirlie
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi. Some people have been asking about those red marks and I thought I would share some information I leraned from my dermatologist. He assured to me that the red marks, called erythamous macules, always fade away 4-6 months after the treatment in over.
They are red, along with the rest of our face, because the blood vessels in the skin are constricted. To SHARON- my dermatologist told me not to use moisturizer because the peeling is good...but I am not super dry so it doesnt bother me at all. I was w
mdering how many girls posting are on birth control and accutane at he same time...please reply...and I hope this info is helpful
Week 12 and two very small white bumps that are fading...while the red marks are not yet.....but they WILL!!
Stuart Cherry - 12/03/99 19:05:46
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Comments:
I have been using a product called 'Silicol Skin' from a company called 'Saguna' for some time now and have been very impressed with the results. Unfortunetly, I ran out the other day and have since lost the UK telephone number to order some more. PLEASE
ELP! Has anyone got the telephone number? Or details of where I can find it?
jasmine - 12/03/99 18:28:11
Age: 19
Comments:
hi people hope u can still remember me.Well the redness have reduced but is still red .My mum has bought me some solutions to apply for my pimples and scars from some beautician and that was great.but it real expensive though $10 for a tiny winy bottle th
t can only last 2 weeks if u have moderate acne.But i think that is very gd better than all those creams i bought from the pharmacy.
i am into the end of 10 weeks now and goin to the 11th week the day after tomorrow.no more zits anymore but the whiteheads are formin into acne but small one and take 2 to 3 daes to go off.now the whiteheads are geting fewer and fewer.Praise God!well i wa
wondering how long does the redness go away after treatment?can someone who knows pls tell me thanks! and all the best!.....ooh yah one more thing,when i go out now,less people stare so this shows my skin is improving! yeah!
chris - 12/03/99 17:36:50
Gender: male
Age: 25
Comments:
I have been through 4 courses of accutane and I about to start my 5th. Its a life-long thing about perserverance. It gets you down but you carry on.
Steve on U2 - 12/03/99 16:59:23
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
To the Australians. I have loved U2 also since I was 15 and have seen them in concert 4 times. I would have to say though that without a doubt "Wide Awake in America" is there best album to date. It is not a full length LP(only four songs) but they are al
gold. If you don't have it buy it. OH YEAH I just got a Paul Oakenfold CD and on it he does a mix of "lemon" which is incredible.
Bob Topps - 12/03/99 16:52:42
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
GW: yeah i was listening to INXS last night and had forgotton just how talented that band was. 'Original Sin' 'Suicide Blonde' 9reminds me of this girl i dated in high school and 'Beutiful Girl' are GREAT. I always LOVed the video for 'Devil Inside'...re:
symettry. GUMP; its true, babies will look at attractive faces longer than average looking ones. this is becasue symettry is a sign of health. It has to do with nose strucure, cheek bones and complexion, all of which I have all going against me. DENNY= I
gree with you r philosophy regarding the outside as stress to skin. But social skills (or lack thereof) only get worse if not honed. trust mne i wa once a recluse until i got the courage to ask a gorl out she said yes and my confidence went up..ELLE: i fi
d your posts thoughtful, keep it up..Aaron: washing yoiur face once at night should be enough, dont listen to people who say it needs to be washed all the time..
GOOD LUCK!
Steve - 12/03/99 16:39:53
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
To the Australians. One of the best shows that I have ever been to was the WHFStival at RFK stadium in D.C.(U.S. Capitol) in 93 on the 3rd of july. Many bands played like NIN and Jane's(my favorite) during the day but the best part was the end when INXS c
me on and played a full set, unannounced. They played pretty much everything from 'Kick' I think. Just thought I would share that.
- 12/03/99 14:14:29
Comments:
spunky hows it going? you still on accutane or do you just use goat soap? how did you beat the depresion thing?
Amy - 12/03/99 13:05:43
My Email:Surf n Snow 2000@aol.com
Gender: female
Age: 20
Comments:
Hey Guys. My name is Amy and I've been battling with acne since I was about 14 or 15. I've tried many different things to clear my skin and none have helped. Now I'm going on Accutane, and I mean right now. I picked up my prescription last night, 40 m
twice a day for about 4-5 months or until my doctor says stop.
I will post a weekly report of how I progress on Accutane. I am so excited!! The journey to clear skin begins with Accutane, right? Thats my impression. Well, To everyone, GOOD LUCK!!! I'll talk to you next Friday!!!
Elle - 12/03/99 11:57:54
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PS Have I said this before? Putting vitamin e oil on my face at night really helped get rid of the scars and red marks (slowly but surely - much improved). It's also a good moisturiser, good if your skin is very dry. Don't know how it would work if yo
're on accutane but worth a try perhaps?
Elle - 12/03/99 11:55:50
Age: 24
Comments:
Hi people ------------------------ NADIA Good luck with the blood test, keep making us all laugh - we need it! I have never used band aid to cover my 'blemishes' but I once read in a magazine that if you were going on a date and got a big zit you could
olour it in with a brown eyeliner and pretend it was a mole. I did this and it worked - cool, but I guess he must have wondered where the mole on my chin went! To DENNY - glad to hear you're mellowing out. Too bloody cold to go out at this time of year
anway ( well, unles you're posting from the south hemisphere) GW - don't give in, you've got to keep fighting. There is NO reason not to talk to girls, I should know, I am one. I would always want to talk to someone cool and funny and ignore any physic
l so-called problems. Keep talking to people and making friends, that's important, the physical stuff can come later ......... to ALISON and BROOKS - I understand that if you're on the pill it can increase your appetite as you have hormones released the
ame as if you were pregnant (this is what prevents you from conceiving!) So the pill doesn't make you fat but can make you want to eat all the time. Still, it's not a problem if you keep an eye on it. Some pills seem to be great for acne - well, didn't
ork for me, but for many of my friends.-------------------------------------------------- Hope you are all doing fine.
Elle xxxx
Karen - 12/03/99 11:55:32
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hey GW - Looks like you and I are the only ones around at the moment - what time is it in Oz - it must be late? And I can't remember how long you said you've got left on the old Accattack! See ya Karenx
GW to NADS - 12/03/99 11:34:34
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Hey, I've got a question for ya. I'm assuming you had the dreaded red marks after treatment was finished, how long did they take to fade, and I mean fade completely to normal colour, in you case. Did you do anything to speed it up........thanks in advan
e.......
GW To NADIA - 12/03/99 11:28:03
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HEY NADS, I read your post again and it was promising. People like you are vey good at making people like me feel better about things. Thanks again, and good luck.
GW to BOBBY TOPPS - 12/03/99 11:26:31
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Hey, the anniversary was a few weeks ago, Nov 22nd to be exact. I remember I was 15 and in the car when I heard it on the radio.
GW - 12/03/99 11:04:39
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Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me, what a brilliant song, and off the Batman soundtrack just for some trivia...................*****AMAE*****Its a shame about your bad-arse dance routine, what happened, did your top decide to sucumb to gravity or somethin
......just kidding. Anyway, your missing out on a kick-arse song, thats all I'm saying. And I still can't believe your even comparing DMB to INXS. Like, what's with that. Then again, what would you expect from someone who listens to music with dry ears
..............I'm glad you think I'm not scrub.......I'm gonna take a guess here is it TLC........scrub, i dont want no scrub, scrub is gonna get no love from me, sitting in the passenger side of his best friends..................*******************and do
't forget WWW.SKINEMA.COM*****
Amae - 12/03/99 08:01:52
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
**** GW **** I know you're not a scrub, I was just messing with you. I had to do a goofy dance routine to Pride (the club mix) in high school. I was definitely not Proud of it, though. HA! Let's not forget that while I like U2, I LOVE DMB!! **** SPUN
Y **** Why would it be funny if I lived in Orlando? Is that where you live? **** ALL **** Anyone have dry ears? No.....? Just me, huh? Guess I've found new side effects. ~Amae
spunky - 12/03/99 07:45:43
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hey I used to listen to U2 when I was like 13. I loved hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me. amae and allison live in florida??? where in florida as that would be funny if you lived in orlando
GW to Amae - 12/03/99 07:32:46
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By the way, my favouite album is Achtung Baby, Joshua Tree a close second............what were your bad memories about Pride (In the Name of Love)???
GW - 12/03/99 07:30:22
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
*****Nadia*****Thanks for the words, your a legend, did make me feel a bit better, I hope that change is coming pretty soon. ********Amae********I love With or Without You as well, in fact, its the song I told my gilfriend about when i broke up with her.
And since this dreaded fucker struck me I haven't come close to a girl since. But thanks for the words, I'm not really scrub you know.......*******Bobby Topps********Yes, I have heard than rumour AND AS A MATTER OF FACT its funny you posted that because
today I was in the waiting room at the optician and I read a magazine with a full big-arse article on Hutch and his death etc. And his father said that he is ashamed people are saying that and that he can categorically say it was suicide.....so there you
go, I Think it was Paula Yates who made up the sex-auto-erotica thing................feel free to reply anyone, from someone who's social skills have gone from premiership team to wooden-spooner.....
Denny to Earth - 12/03/99 04:08:45
Gender: male
Age: 25
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Amae - 12/03/99 04:00:11
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**** BROOKS **** Apricot Scrub is an exfoliator. I only use it a couple of times a week because it works so well. I'm on Day 9 of treatment (20mg in AM and 40mg in PM) and I have dry lips, skin, and ears (odd, huh?). I also get really nauseous after th
40mg dose (maybe cause that's when I take the Ortho-Tricyclin). **** Alison **** I live in Florida too!! ~Amae
Amae - 12/03/99 03:54:53
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
**** GW **** I called you scrub because you kept referring to me as chick and babe. C'mon, don't tell me sweet little pet names like that haven't gotten you a girl yet!! Don't worry- you have a great sense of humor...she'll be lucky when she finds you.
RUNNING TO STAND STILL is my favorite song, followed closely by WITH OR WITHOUT YOU. So obviously Joshua Tree is my favorite album. I have bad memories of PRIDE. ~Amae
Nadia - 12/03/99 03:53:12
My Email:meetok@altavista.com
Age: 27
Comments:
I forgot to mention- I had been using Aquaphor on my face for the initial peeling , face cracking dryness stage but have stopped (because the dryness isn't as urgent) and am now using Vit. E from capsules as was suggeted from one of the posters (I think
t was either Silena or Spunky) Thanks for the tip, it is working really well. Blood test tomorrow, please keep your fingers crossed for me. Take care.
- 12/03/99 03:48:25
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Nadia - 12/03/99 03:47:43
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ALISON- I had a similiar type thing on my hands- don't put lotion on it, I don't know what it is , but lotion only made it worse. CAMERON- The only thing that works on my lips is Aquaphor, it's OTC.
TO GW and DENNY and any one else that thinks that they won't ever be able to use their genitals- I know how hard it is cause I have definately been there but things do work out, it may take alot of time and frustration but hang in there, I have terrible a
ne and scars and was able to find someone ( I don't know how it just happened, I always avoid people but I met this hunky guy at college who insisted on talking to me we met on 2/4/94 and have been together ever since and are now married) if it can happen
to a freak like me then it can certainly happen for articulate young men like yourselves. I know that saying this doesn't alter your situation any, but I just wanted you to know that things change in wonderful ways unexpectedly too. I wish everyone the b
st.
Nadia - 12/03/99 03:34:14
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Hey ELLE, congratulations on startng Accu. next week, it is a big decision , but I wish that I had started it much sooner in life. It is REALLY starting to help. Like you I've had the terrible bastards for as long as I can remember. I don't remember anyon
being openly cruel (only saying things like "she'd be pretty if she didn't have all those zits") When they first started happening I tried to cover them up with band- aids. I invented wonderful stories to explain the bandaids like I got up too quickly a
d the microwave door was open and I cut myself on the microwave and had to have stiches. Of course no one believed me and it was a desperate and futile attempt, but it made me feel better. I drank on Accu and had nosebleeds for a couple of days after, ba
ed on my experience I wouldn't advise it even in moderation. Also there was a post awhile ago abut alcohol raising triglyceride levels. Good Luck on Accu. ! When it starts to work I don't think you'll miis them!
cameron - 12/03/99 03:07:51
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Accutane treatment stareted two months ago. I have the worst chapped lips.
Bob Topps - 12/03/99 01:34:44
My URL:http://www.pizzaface
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
RE: Washing your face. Fols ive got to tell you this is one bs myth that gets us all. Sure I wash my face every night but thats so when i put the cream on it is absorbed better. Listen washing too much and/or with shit like Clearsil or camel spit soap onl
makes it worse. hey i read somewhere tom cruise only uses residue from shampoo as well. paul mitchell shampoo #1. its got all sort of goodies in it, dermatologist told me its beneficial.
GW: have you heard th erumour that michjeal hutchence does of aoutoerotic asphyxian? Today is th eanniversery right?no i do not use gloves when typing, i just have bad posture.
GOOD luck!
L'homme qui rit - 12/03/99 01:28:12
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Comments:
For all of you who get whiteheads, try putting "Polysporin" on it. Most of the time the pus will melt or go away after some hours (a night).
Polysporin is an antibiotic ointment that contains "Polymyxin B", "Bacitracin" and "Gramicidin".
Try it !
Denny - 12/03/99 01:14:43
Gender: 25
Age: male
Comments:
Hi!,
DENNY TO GW: thats no bullshit? why even go out? thats what i say. I m having a good time sitting in hewre chillin listening to Bowie, Men At Work and watching marlon brando movies..btw:ytes im ok
"hate baby hate when thers othing left for you"
btw:i never look at anyone in the eye, jesus im like holden caulfield..time to get back to my book.
SEE YA
-DENNY
GW - 12/03/99 01:12:22
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Like I'm not saying I'm gonna commit suicide but its looking more and more like that. Who am I kidding? I'm trying to give people like IMALEADYDEAD and Denny advice and for fucksake I feel the same as they do. I suppose we have our good days and bad da
s, and sometimes on bad ones you just wanna die. I've been all the way down and I just wanna go back up again.
GW - 12/03/99 01:07:33
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Sorry if I'm bullshitting, but I went out last night and once again for the umpteenth time it proved to me that I have become a diminutive anti-social nothing. I've lost so much of this year and I'm going to have to re-learn how to look people in the eye
I was just looking around at everyone else last night with clear skin and then there's me, I used to be able to get girls but now I'm no chance. Hutch puts is well in his new solo album****I just want to slide away and come alive again.**********
GW to SPUNKMEISTER - 12/03/99 01:02:52
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Lets put aside our differences for now. Yep, I was just like you before the fucker struck me in March this year. Its like going from old gold chocolate to boiled lollies. Unfortunately, I waited too long to go on roaccutane, and although it has eradica
ed my acne I still have red marks. I'm lost count what week but I only have about 2 weeks to go and that will be eight boxes. Then, I just have to wait for the red marks to go away. At the moment I'm on 60mg but my highest dose was 80mg.
GW to GUMP - 12/03/99 00:58:36
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
I can't believe I'm being civil to a Victorian. (Go the Crows). Anyway, no I never got to see INXS live mainly because I was too young when they peaked. Like, the show you went to you would have been like my age and I was about six. Even still, my sis
er, who's seven years older than me, was a big fan at that stage so even as a youngster I used to listen to her "Kick" album. Hutch was a great loss, there'll never be another like him. Only Bono's voice comes close. My fav U2 songs are Pride and One...
....feel free to reply.
Alison - 12/03/99 00:40:20
My Email:Ally23t@aol.com
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Comments:
Brooks - as far as I have been led to understand it, weight gain with birth control pills is a misconception. I have never had problems with gaining on any pills I have tried, although my chest did develop somewhat with the first pill (many moons ago)...
am - I appreciate the support, just knowing that someone else can get into a trance while picking and squeezing is a comfort, sometimes I make a conscious effort to not allow myself to do it and still sit for ages picking and squeezing. I make holes in m
face, you would think I was digging for gold or something. I would really have to exert some self-control if I tried out the accutane thing. For all of you with dry lips, I recommend a great lip balm by Kiehl's (Lip Balm # 1). It is available in Saks
epartment store, and while the Kiehl's line itself is pricey, the lip balm was not too bad and lasts for ages.
- 12/02/99 23:55:02
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denny, are you okay? i understand that you dont like crowds, and i agree, im just concerned since you havent left your apt. not everyone is superficial, nor are superficial people as superficial as they seem. i feel a lot of empathy for you.
Denny - 12/02/99 23:27:22
Gender: male
Age: 25
Comments:
Hi!
Update: Haven't lef tmy apartment in close to four weeks. Im really starting to like my setup here, im getting work done and keepiong my face clear of particles in the air as well as UV rays..(im using Retin-A so staying out of the sun is doing me good)..
o the person who said I was crazy to spend New Years alone, id rather spend it alone confortably (usually curled up with a good book) than all stressed out in some crowd full of people who are superficial. EYAH and spending thanksgiving alone was my choic
..now that zit on my nose is SLOWLY receding, im starting to feel better..
-DENNY is back in business!
Brooks - 12/02/99 23:04:32
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
*****TO PAM***** I'm going to my blood test on the 6th on Dec which is Monday. I'll let everyone know okay?? ***** TO MARIE***** Thanks for the advise I'll look for it at the pharmacy since I work at one!! *****TO ALLISON***** I tough of taking the pill b
fore Accutane but I heard a lot of my friends ganning weight during the time they were on...**********SEE YA EVERYONE**********
RG - 12/02/99 22:49:34
My Email:rg@callnetuk.com
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Comments:
Heh! I'm on my 6th week of accutane. I've seen a big improvement but I still have on massive cyst on my right cheek (not ass cheek)! Will this go or will I need it cut out, I have had it there for 3 months, the colour has faded from an almost black to a v
ry mild purple. I still have red stains on my cheeks but my forehead is clear. I still have spots but they aren't cystic acne. How long until these red stains go? I also have scarring from my case of acne, will I be able to get treatment for this?
Please email me at the above address. Thanks.
oooohelpme.... - 12/02/99 22:47:08
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Luferus - 12/02/99 22:24:52
My Email:Luferus@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Comments:
Hello everyone. Week 13 of Roaccutane and I will see my dermatologist next week to review the situation. My skin looks so much better, but the red scars are still prominent. I have also been very depressed lately, but I have had other problems to deal
ith. Anyway, I hope you all have the strength to get through this, and much love goes out to you all. Support is so important to get through acne, whether you are on Roaccutane or not. Take care.
Sharon - 12/02/99 22:12:06
My Email:googaboo@uswest.net
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
Hi all -- WEEK 5 of Accutane treatment -- TO MARIE: Don't worry darlin'! I think that you are going to be just fine on your wedding day. Another 8 weeks is A LONG time to go -- I think you'll be happy with the results! I was wondering about someone's
ost though about not using moisturizer....is that true? Her derm told her that. I was curious if maybe I shouldn't use any -- but if I didn't then my face would be a mess of dryness and flakiness would it not? Anyway, I got a new blemish, but it surfac
d so it's healing now. All the rest of my face though is totally clear -- except for the red marks, which are still fading anyway. I've been using massive amounts of Matrix Glossifier for my hair since the amount of static is outrageous! Anybody else e
pereince static? I don't blow dry my hair either -- but the Glossifier is working pretty good. TO BROOKS: Hi girl! I use Neutrogena Oil Free Ance Wash and it's been working great! I would receommend it. Anyway, the usual report -- but still clearing
Go for my blood work on the 16th and have been laying off the booze. To be honest, I don't feel like drinking at all which is very unlike me.....I would come home and have the urge to get wasted most of the time since we always have a house full of com
any at some time of the day. But lately I really don't care to drink and if I do, then it's only one.....hmmmmm. Tonight though is my husband's (anybody have a problem with me mentioning HIM in my post?)birthday, so I'm going to induldge in Margarita's
nd who knows.......Woo hoo!
Yangas - 12/02/99 22:11:25
My Email:bulls_43@hotmail.com
Age: 17
Comments:
Hi everyone
I am on roacuutane at 40 mgs twice a day. I have been on it for like 12 weeks now, for all those ppl worried about breakin out at week 5 or 7 or 10 DON'T WORRY always think towards the good sides.
I have been posting on this site for a while and have heard all those ppl stories, i broke out at week 6 and 7 and man was those hard days.
But i got better so so will u, trust in god!
There are times when u have nothin to look or get help from and i look to god and ask him for help, and he will if u have enough belief.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESRIONS PLZ EMAIL ME AT bulls_43@hotmail.com i look forward to anyones email.
cya good luck and god bless
Yangas - 12/02/99 22:07:30
My Email:bulls_43@hotmail.com
Age: 17
Comments:
Hi everyone
I am on roacuutane at 40 mgs twice a day. I have been on it for like 12 weeks now, for all those ppl worried about breakin out at week 5 or 7 or 10 DON'T WORRY
Gump - 12/02/99 22:05:00
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I have to agree with MR. TOPPS about the SYMMETRY though. I saw a current affairs program once (lots of credibility right) where a test was condcuted. Babies were coaxed into pointing to particular pictures of human faces and it was quite dominant that th
y'd point to the more symmetrical faces during the experiment. Now babies can't lie nor do they know the meaning of symmetry.
Gump - 12/02/99 21:59:17
Age: 27
Comments:
BULLSHIT. Please scroll past.
Gump - 12/02/99 21:58:29
Gender: male
Age: 27
Comments:
OK SORRY about all the crappy type posts. I was just trying to have a little fun. I'll try and keep it to a minimum in future. I'll warn you now that my next post is going to be bullshit though.
Marie - 12/02/99 21:37:01
My Email:Marie@PLIndustries.com
Comments:
HI Rene-I dont know what to say except thank you a million times! You are amazing and have made me feel alot better when I need it which is now!!! I spoke to Anita from the board today. She is so nice too. I enclosed my e-mail address at the top. Do y
u think maybe you could e-mail me a # we could talk at or I can e-mail you mine because Its so much better to actually talk. I feel better anyway. I'll be at work for 30 more mins. If thats ok with you it would be great!!! Thanks again!!
Rene - 12/02/99 21:21:03
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
HI MARIE...I have read your posts yesterday and today. I know you are very upset about breaking out at 7 weeks. Try to remember that we all have the ultimate goal of clean, clear smooth complexion. The only way to achieve that on this drug is to have e
erything come to the surface. As gross or embarassing that is for a few weeks it is the best thing. Every time I got a new cyst I just had to remember I want clean skin so this stuff has to come out. I went back and read my journal. I have kept an Acc
tane Journal for every day I have been on this drug...I have indicated what my complexion looked like, how many new pimples, what I ate and how I felt. So if I had any weird side effects I would know for how long and maybe why. At 14 weeks the entire we
k, I had two new very small pimples on my jawline. My complexion was great!! Remember light at the end of the tunnel theory...I did read again that I still had acne in week 10 but a lot less than week 6,7, and 8!! So please hang in there!! TO BROOKS:
use the St. Ives scrub every other morning...basically to remove dead skin and I have a few dry patches around the nose and mouth. This removes all the dry skin. I then continue to wash with Cetaphil cleanser. (I use Cetaphil every day). Then apply m
moisterizer. TO ALLISON: Ask your derm for some free sample steriod cream or a prescription for hydrocortizon cream (2.5%). Any time I get the rash anywhere...I apply the cream and then put lotion on it. I rarely get the rashes anymore since I apply
lot of lotion especially after washing my hands throughout the day. Hope this helps, RENE
Allison - 12/02/99 20:52:42
Gender: girlie
Age: 16
Comments:
Help!!!!! I have been on accutane for 3 weeks and I have a rash looking type thing on the back of my hands, it doesnt itch, and its not dry. I tried putting lotion on it but it just burns!!! What is it and how do i get it to go away?!?!?!?!?
Pam - 12/02/99 20:03:58
My Email:pam_118@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
Hi again MARIE...yeah I do think it's normal to be breaking out at week 7...but we are all so different...taking different dosages...having different responses to the drug...that it's hard to predict exactly what will happen week by week...personally...I
tarted to clear almost immediately on the drug...then experienced a cycle of breakouts...the worst at month 4/5...since you are on a higher dosage than me...you may have a different experience......stressing over it isn't going to help...I know it's easie
said than done...but try to relax (some relaxation tapes perhaps?)...you're getting married to someone who loves you...so enjoy it hon! Hopefully you will be clear on the big day...but if you're not...don't let those damned zits steal the joy out of your
special day!!!
jeff - 12/02/99 19:49:37
My Email:jsg182@psu.edu
Gender: male
Age: 18
Comments:
i would just like to say that i have had acne for like forever. accutane helps acne like nothing i have ever seen but beware the chapped lips, you might get it real bad like me, it aint pretty.
Pam - 12/02/99 19:48:09
My Email:pam_118@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
Hi BROOKS...just got your message about your e-mail not working...was wondering how your tests went??? ALISON...as a reformed 'picker and squeezer' I know how hard it is to break this habit...and to be honest I still lapse on occasion...I used to spend ma
athon sessions in front of the mirror...almost in a trance...anyway I just wanted to let you know that if you decide to go on Ro/Accutane...you might find your skin wounds more easily (it happened that way for me)...takes AGES to heal...and is more likely
to scar if you pick...
Marie - 12/02/99 19:31:34
Comments:
Hi Pam
Thats for responding. What I guess I need some help with is that I am almost at week 7 at 50 mg per day. I am still breaking out. Is this normal? I am so nervous because when I reah week 14 i am getting married (end Jan). Will I see clearing soon? H
w do you think it will be at week 14? My acne isnt cystic and is mainly concentrated on my cheeks but I have alot of white bumps (like blackheads) but not black, you know and those trun into red pimples and also i had some red pimples on cheeks. I see s
me improvement once the pus comes then they dry up but that is really it. My derms beleives I will be much clearer in that amount of time. I am so scared!! Pls help! I know my stress just adds to it also! Pls pls help!
Steve - 12/02/99 19:21:36
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: 26
Age: male
Comments:
INFO: There are very few people who "outgrow" adult acne because it is linked an overproduction of androgens which most often persists throughout a persons whole life. It is thought as well that androgen production can actually increase once a person has
eached maturity. This accounts for those individuals who had clear skin as adolescants but developed it in their twenties. I guess this situation could be called a "benign" hormonal imbalance because it does not threaten ones health but anyone who has acn
or is going bald may not think of it as being "benign". I think I would call it a "really lame" hormonal imbalance. Just my thoughts.
pam - 12/02/99 19:18:36
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
Hi MARIE...I'm NO expert...just found out a few things along the way that helped me...and might be useful to some other people...I scrolled back through your posts...but not sure exactly which parts you want me to try and answer...if you post again...with
some specific questions...I'll try to answer them to the best of my ability...
Alison - 12/02/99 19:00:52
My Email:Ally23T@aol.com
Gender: female
Age: 27
Comments:
Oh, couple more small points to make. My gyno put me on Ortho-TriCyclin and told me it is a good birth control pill for skin problems. However, it seems to be having a paradoxical effect. My skin has been worse on this that the previous pill I was taki
g. Anyone else find this to be the case? Anyone else taking this pill? Also, I seem to be confused about my age. I am in fact 27 and will be 28 next month.
Alison - 12/02/99 18:55:14
My Email:ally23t@aol.com
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Comments:
Hi. I am a 28 year old British woman now living in sunny Florida. I have been in the U.S. for nearly 9 years. I have been experiencing skin problems for years, and I can remember as far back as 13 when I did not want to attend religious services becaus
of the acne on my forehead. Perhaps it was my brother's analogy that my forehead was "brail" and was probably "a good book." Who knows, anyway, the point is that while I have not suffered with cystic acne, I have had mild to moderate acne problems for
ay too long. Furthermore, my Dad is a GP and has enabled me to try every antibiotic (topical and otherwise) in the book, but nothing has worked. I should clarify - I have tried everything except accutane. Thanks to the info from my good friend Karen (wh
appears to be a regular poster around here), I am now ready to talk to my dermatologist about getting on it. I am sick to death of dealing with this. I pick and squeeze and squeeze and pick, and when I am anxious or stressed I am like an obsessed woman
and cannot keep my hands away from my face. I dig at my skin with sharp objects and wonder sometimes if I am seeing things on my skin that are not really there. I am currently using Stiemycin topical antibiotic with Retin A, and while it has helped some
hat, it won't last long. I have used it before and it is like all the other stuff - I seem to build up a tolerance and the acne reappears. There are days I could happily not leave the house because of my skin. More than anything, I am angry and resentfu
that at 28 years old I should still have to deal with this. I thought that once out of adolescence the skin stuff would be over. Boy was I wrong about that one! So, while I wanted to introduce myself rather than reading everyone elses posts and just l
rking, I also wanted to let you all know that I have really gained a great deal from reading what others have to say, and this is a great place for support. Thanks Karen. Oh, and just to fill you in on one more thing. I am currently in my forth year of
a five year doctorate program in Psychology. Next year I will be a doctor, so just to give you an idea, I work with alot of self-esteem, anxiety and depression issues in people of all ages. You would think I might learn a thing or two about allowing my
kin problems to affect my self-esteem, but that is just not the case. Perhaps in a perfect world, but this world is far from perfect! I am married (it will be one year this January) and my husband has perfect skin on his face. He does not even wash his
ace except for the shampoo residue either, and he never breaks out. For all of you discussing products, I am a full believe in Cetaphil cleanser and moisturizer (but only when you are really dry and can't bare it). My dermatologist swears by it, and I s
w a segment on the Today show (for those of you in the U.S.) and the esteemed dermatologist who appeared said it is the best way to go. For anyone who wants to have a little scrub, put a little baking soda with the Cetaphil and rub lightly on your face.
See you all soon.
Brooks - 12/02/99 18:45:38
Age: 18
Comments:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!3 Week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!****To Amae***what does the St-Ives Apricot Scrub acutally do?? *******To Roxy****** Thanks for the advise I'll try that when my other bottle is empty...*************To Everyone******** has anyone expirienced hot flushes
n ther cheek bones that burn after washing there face???? Good luck to all!
Marie - 12/02/99 18:44:58
Comments:
To Pam - I think you sound pretty much like an expert on this. If you read down and see some of my previous posts, can you tell me what you think? It would be so much appreciated.
Thanks
Ellen - 12/02/99 18:24:50
Comments:
to help, whats wrong?????
Ellen - 12/02/99 18:24:17
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
does anyone know about taking anti inflamatories on a long term basis having any effect on acne? my gyno prescribed them for me and when i told her i was on minocycline she didnt even know what that was for so i dont know how well versed on acne she is.
and i kind of have noticed a difference in the last couple of weeks that ive been on it, but then again ive also heard that taking motrin, a non prescription anti inflamitory, helps reduce swelling of acne, is that true? i have no idea, any help will be
reatly appreciated.
help - 12/02/99 18:18:32
Comments:
Pam - 12/02/99 17:58:38
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
Because I have a family history of heart disease...when my cholesterol and triglycerides became elevated during treatment with Ro/Accutane...it was a real cause for concern...with low doses (20mg/day)...additional medication...and diet modification...I ha
e been able to bring it back down to an acceptable range...those of you interested in DIET MODIFICATION TO LOWER CHOLESTEROL...might find the following link useful...it takes you to the USDA Nutrient Database...a search engine which provides information a
out the composition of foods (minerals...vitamins...fats...etc.) A single fried egg for example has a whopping 211.40mg of cholesterol! I found it very useful when deciding which foods to eliminate altogether...and which foods to take in moderation...(che
se and eggs were the first things to go!!!) Even 'low-fat' cheesees have quite a bit of cholesterol...so here it is: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl
Other than that...just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed reading the board recently...so many great people around at the moment...gives me the warm and fuzzies! Have been on Ro/Accutane 12 months...20mg/day...and except for the scars...my skin looks stu
ning! Best of luck to you all...Pam...
Bob Topps - 12/02/99 17:42:35
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
An update; doubling up the dose of my minocycline seems to be working, (temporaily of course).
kristin: Accutane is a synthetic form of vitamin A. Its actually some kind of drevative nd the molecular structure has been changed so it is better absorbed in our bodies...
DENNY: Dont spend new years alone. ge tout and enjoy life, who cares about a zit on your nose (though it is the worst place for it, IMHO)?
GW: my talk about symetry is this: how people find others attractive is via symettry. that is put a line down the middle of Uma Thurman or Tom Cruise's face and you will see that there features match up perfectly. Acne results in assymettry, like moles an
hair do. Breasts, for example, are 3-dimensional symettry, indicating health and fertility..hope this helps..
-GOOD LUCK!
Marie - 12/02/99 17:36:49
Comments:
Anita- I just e-mailed you. That would be great! I need to chat.
anita - 12/02/99 17:24:13
My Email:anita.worton@modisintl.com
Gender: female
Age: 27
Comments:
Marie, ok, right, lets get things into perspectie here. You are getting married end of January, enough stress in itself, which is exaserbating the anxiety of being on this drug. Now, end of January, a good 8 weeks away and if you are up to week 7 that s
ould be just about the whole course complete, yes? You will be amazed how much things can change in 8 weeks (for the better, trust me)! Think how different your skin can look on a 'good day' to a 'bad day'. So in eight weeks you will be amazed. This i
a really powerful drug, let it take it's course and most importantly look after yourself, take it easy, you have got the best day ever to look forward to and you will look great! If you really are that panicky, and I really do understand, email me and I
will give you my number for a chat.
Marie - 12/02/99 16:35:44
Comments:
Anita, are you sure I should not panic and I have enough time to clear up? I mean pimples that were there last week have gone after the pus drained from them but I am still getting more and am very nervous that I wont be clear ENOUGH, not even totally by
end Jan! Do you really think it will be ok? I have never been so scared in my whole life!! I know stress adds to it but I am a wreck inside and I feel like outside also! Is 14 weeks on this long enough to see results I truly need? Pls Help! My derm
ays I will be ok and so do many others I speak to mut I can not relax about this!! PLS! HELP!
Anita - 12/02/99 16:23:34
My Email:anita.worton@modisintl.com
Age: 27
Comments:
Marie, good to see a bit of girlie banter going on here!! Seriously, don't panic, I was still getting breakouts after six weeks, then I think about 2 months it suddenly turned right around. You will probably see more side effects than improvement for a
hile then - wow! I must say that even after stopping the treatment it carried on getting even better and I had loads of red scars which DID all fade in time. Although I have had the course 3 times each time the relapse was less and the time scale furth
r between, i'm waiting for my derm appointment at the mo after a great clear year, now relapsing but i'm not going to panic because I know it works I WON'T give up! Good luck, don't worry, Christmas will be great!
- 12/02/99 16:18:54
Comments:
Marie - 12/02/99 16:17:16
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Anita, How long did it take for you to see some results? I see minimal results but I am still breaking out and am very very scared. How were you at week 14? Week 7 like me? please let me know! I am not scared of side effects. I just want to clear up
by the end of January! Please help and if you could give me some details of how it went with you, I'd appreciate it so much to compare notes!
Anita - 12/02/99 15:57:21
My Email:anita.worton@modisintl.com
Age: 27
Comments:
Elle, criky, can't childhood be cruel!! One of my best friends had this affliction from the age of 11 and I couldn't ever imagine being so nasty! I guess she was lucky with her friends. Mine didn't start until I was 21, always had the odd ones over the
years but then these huge cycst appeared from nowhere all over!! Cheeks, chin, forehead, shoulders and chest, yuk! Lukily all my friends and family were great but the urge to hybernate was overwhelming. I was put on roaccutane within 6 months (a lot of
crying to my doctor hurried things along). I was very nervous too becuase I think you have all these horror stories going around your head, but its not that bad! You may not get hardly any side effects but whatever you will feel like you've been given a
new life (well, I did anyway) I would have taken a mortgage to get it! Good luck and keep in touch!
Marie - 12/02/99 15:31:14
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Hi! anyone out there that can please tell me where they are at at week 7? Still breaking out because I am and am terrified! I am getting married the end of January. Anyone there who can tell me where they were at at week 7 and then at week 14? Please,
its so important, I am very very nervous and upset!
Thanks to anyone who can help.
Karen - 12/02/99 15:16:46
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
Elle - Hello again to a fellow UK bird! Thank you also for your response to my diet/roacc query. And yes, this site is definitely addictive. Catch you later. Kxx
Sara - 12/02/99 15:04:39
Gender: Female
Comments:
Hi, I think this site is good, except for the junk about music and ho girlfrieds... 2 weeks until my appointment for roacc.
Karen - 12/02/99 15:04:28
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
ANITA - Thank you so much for your response regarding diet - much appreciated. (I think the first response (right above my question) from an anonymous poster, was a little condescending?!) I've never really been worried about my diet - I just wasn't sure
f I should be - what with those trigywhatsits and all!!!
Yes, this is my first time on Roaccutane (novice!!) and I'm only 3 weeks in. I have mild/moderate acne which has been hovering around since I was about 21. Prior to that I had, what most people would consider, great skin. Anyway, first two and a half w
eks on Roaccutane and I couldn't believe the improvement, but this week it ain't looking so hot! But I'm gathering from this site, that the odd 'break-out' every few weeks is quite normal?? I'd love to hear your input and experiences. I would imagine tha
having been on Roaccutane 3 times would make you a bit of an expert! What's the story with that? I look forward to hearing from you. Many thanks again Anita. Love Karenx
- 12/02/99 14:53:47
Comments:
hey Spunky. RoXy here hows it going?
- 12/02/99 14:52:57
Comments:
Its not kidney strain...but liver strain..my point exactly.
spunky - 12/02/99 14:51:43
My Email:spunky695@yahoo.com
Gender: male
Age: 17(6 months till 18)
Comments:
TO GW: I never actually thought about it (as you probably never did either) but we are almost exactly in te same boat. Granted that we never got along or had the same views with HGPig but a lot happened. I NEVER had acne until after spring/early summer.
Anyway, I met amber at the beginning of spring break but seh's gone through all this. But the same thing happened. I went to the beach, had tons of chicks, ryan's celica convertible, it was great. then along about late jun (late december for you????)
I started breaking out for the first time and here I am now. It sucks balls thinking what "could have been". But I always say I'll be back and better than ever. So what dose and week are you on ect??? I'm on 40 mg, on week 14 or 15 and I think I just
ot one more(damnit) I don't have any scarring (I don't think at least) do you?? anyone?? can only cystic ance cause scars?? I don't have that. I just have little pimples(sometimes kinda big, but nothing unmanagable) also, does anyone else take FOREV
R to heal and pimples to go away while on accutane?? thanks and good luck
- 12/02/99 14:48:29
Comments:
What is all this bullshit about whos from where personally I dont think anyone gives a shit if you are from the U.S. or Alcatraz...I mean Austraillia or butt fuck eygpt OK.....Please dont post any messages about my opinion...it is useless because I scroll
through bullshit anyway.
Gump - 12/02/99 11:35:54
Gender: male
Age: 27
Comments:
Hey G.W., it's me who's from Melbourne (Oz) and we don't think we're "hot shit" (or shit hot for that matter), WE KNOW IT. Anyway, the rivalry is between Melbourne and that sleazy city Sydney. Adelaide doesn't even come into the equation.
JUST KIDDING, don't get up tight. We need S.A. for the Elizabeth plant to make the world class Commodore. You yanks, why won't you buy it? It craps all over the cars you guys put out. We practically put everything American in it anyway(important stuff any
ay; engine, trans) and give it the Aussie touch. Probably got something to do with unions and all that shit, yeah fair enough, whatever.
Is it true you septics judge a car by how many cup holders it has? You see Aussies don't need as many 'cos they down a can quicker than you can reach for another one out of the fridge.
Anyway, saw my DERM today and he reckons on 20mg I could stay on for a year or two. I think I heard him right. I assume he doesn't expect me to not have a drink in that time. Not that I'm a real pisshead anyway.
GW, did you get a chance to see INXS live?
I caught their KICK tour in 1988. Pretty cool. Crappy seats though. Hey septics (sorry United Statons) again, VAN HALEN were a little disappointing after building up for about 20 years to come here. Album III is great though.
Yeah DAVE MATTHEWS BAND, great band man. WHO????
Shit, I don't know how ya'll (is that right? or is it y'all - do you not know the Queen's English? Well of course she's English, she's a cool chick alas I voted YES) anyway, how do you guys handle doses of 60 - 80mg per day. I mean how dry do your lips ge
? Do they bleed?
What of the dry nose stuff? Does it get sort of scabby inside 'cos it's dry and on the verge of bleeding?
WITH OR WITHOUT YOU has to be one of many of U2's finest works. A bassline that's hautingly simple but effective. Spine tingling stuff that. What about Bono's voice? What a prick? What I'd give to have a voice half as good.
Anyway, better go.
Until I can think of more shit to write. Stay out of the sun, it's a killer. Unless you want to look like a cow's hide, huh? Well do ya punk?
Elle - 12/02/99 10:58:34
Age: 24
Comments:
My life story, for ANITA and others who may or may not care. I'm 24 and cannot remeber having clear skin - I think things started to go wrong when I was about 11. I was unhappy at school, used to hide in the toilets at lunchtime so no-one could see my f
ce in daylight, sit in the darkest corner of the room - I'm sure it's all familiar. My mum was fantastic and took my to my GP (family doctor) - he gave me Dalycin (? sp) Myacin (again ? sp) and some dodgy Homeoepathic remedy, none of which had any effect
hatsoever. Found a picture one of my classmates had drawn of me in a book, dots all over face with arrows pointing saying 'greasy', 'disgusting' - really nice when you're 15. I didn't go back to the doctor until I was 20 when I started the first of a ra
ge of different contraceptive pills in the hope one of them would have an effect. To date, none have helped. At 21, my boyfriend encouraged me to go back to my GP and ask for help. We then tried oxytetracycline, Dalycin (again) and Dianette, again no r
sults. Many of my friends who still had acne were suddenly clear skinned thanks to Dianette but it didn't work for me. I was reffered to see a specialist dermatologist in May, got the appointment last week, and was immediately prescribed Roaccutane. I
m starting it next week and I'm nervous as hell. I really hope it works. I'm so weary of getting up in the morning and seeing my face the way it is. I feel like this is the last resort, and all I want is to be 'normal'. Now don't get me wrong, even i
I have to live with acne for the rest of my life it will still be worth living, and that's the most important thing. ******************************************** Don't give up everyone, we can deal with this thing! Maybe we will even miss our little
friends the zits when they are gone forever.
anita - 12/02/99 10:42:37
Comments:
thanks elle...just seen your post, i'll look forward to hearing it!
Anita - 12/02/99 10:39:37
My Email:anita.worton@modisintl.com
Gender: female
Age: 27
Comments:
Karen, (in the UK)....you were asking about Roaccutane and diet...well as I understand it if your blood tests are okay then diet shouldn't be a problem but it they show high trigywhatsits and cholesterol you may have to go on a low fat diet. Is this your
first time on Roaccutane?..I have been on it three times now so am well aware of all the patterns you get and i've never had too much problem. Once my tests did come back high but I just took it easy and they were fine. The main thing really is alchohol
(bummer this time of year, eh!) Your body really could do without that strain on the kidneys right now, just in moderation! Good luck and let me know how it goes!
Elle - 12/02/99 10:35:31
Gender: female
Age: 24
Comments:
Hi Guys, only the third day since I found this site and I think I'm getting addicted! Can't believe I can talk about this stuff at last! Hi to everyone in the UK - glad I'm not the only one! To NADIA - you are so cool! I loved your post regarding hobbi
s for acne-afflicted people - I'm looking for alien messages in my face right now. To KAREN - I didn't get told to eat a low-fat diet either, but it was explained to me that Roaccutane can raise your chloresterol (? sp) so eating low fat is a good idea.
ALCOHOL - can't remember who posted this (sorry) - was told to drink in moderation (two glasses of wine only at a time) - would love to know what happens if you break this rule from anyone who knows. ROXY - have you tried using a cream cleanser (i.e. not
rinse-off) it stops your face getting too dry but keeps it clean. I use Simple - don't know if you have the same brand but most hypo-allergenic ranges do a non-washoff cleanser. I really really hate scuzzy non-washing people with perfect skin!!! ANITA
can't send e-mail (I'm at work) - will post here with my life story! Nice to hear from you. ANDREAS - don't stress! You've come to the right place for advice! Hope all goes well with your treatment. DENNY - new years eve is cack anyway, how about
e all get together (maybe Oz - it sounds great at this time of year) so we don't have to worry about any of this sh*t? RE $20,000 - yeah right. Still, that could probably buy a skin transplant....................
Take care, guys, will post again with life history for ANITA.
strawberry - 12/02/99 09:41:55
Gender: male
Age: 19
Comments:
Good morning ladies and gerbils! Okay y'all, my first ever Derm appointment is in exactly ten hours at 11*30am(PST) and I need some help. I would just like to know what "questions" I should ask my dermatologist about Accutane, as I am considering taking i
. My acne is just above moderate and is located on my cheeks and the bottom part of my T-zone. thanks in advance-jonathan
GW - 12/02/99 07:53:15
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Hey Amae, Chick, why do you call me scrub???I'm hurt. When I get hurt I get sad. When I get sad I get depressed. When I get depressed................you get the picture************what's you favourite U2 song?.......album?
Nadia - 12/02/99 07:28:22
Comments:
Thanks Amae- you know there is a whole line of jewelry waiting to be created, we can also take our little pregnant lady with a line through her tabs to senior centers and use them as bingo chips, the posibilities are endless. We can use them as pasties, w
can use them instead of Lee press on nails, we can even take advantage of the color and string them as garland for a Christmas tree. Tee heehee
Amae - 12/02/99 05:58:43
Comments:
Hey GW scrub, read Denny's post and and then mine and you'll see what I was joking about. ~
Amae - 12/02/99 05:56:57
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
*** GW *** Oh, sorry about the Melbourne thing. It was an anon post and I just assumed it was you. DMB is the one and only Dave Matthews Band. I wasn't knocking INXS, I was just saying they pale in comparison to my Dave. At least we agree on U2. ~Am
e
GW - 12/02/99 05:55:44
Comments:
Hey Amae chick, what do you do with your urine................nah, that's disgusting forget I asked...................actually, I know what everyone can do with theirs and that's piss on acne once there treatment works..........
GW - 12/02/99 05:50:33
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
HEY AMAE BABE: No,No, I'm not from Melbourne at all. I'm from Adelaide. You read that from someone else' post. See I'm a bit insulted you think I'm from melbourne cause there's meant to be a big rivalry between Adelaide & Melbourne cause they think th
y're hot shit. Anyway, who the hell is DMB!!!!! If you knock INXS again you'll be sorry.............just kidding. But in terms of success I'll only rate U2 up there with them (oh, and Metallica for the Yanks..)
Amae - 12/02/99 04:55:13
Comments:
Sorry- just realized that I talked a lot about urine in my posts. Don't want y'all ("you guys" for the Yanks) to think I have some weird fetish or something. ~Amae (again)
Amae - 12/02/99 04:51:28
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21...22 in a month!!!
Comments:
****BROOKS***** I use Clean & Clear also. I'm not sure who suggested it, but I also use St. Ives Apricot Scrub every now and then. I use Aquaphor as a moisturizer- yes, even on my face... better than urinating on it, eh? Just kidding, DENNY. I used to
put oatmeal and apple juice on my face. Don't ask, I read it in some silly magazine. Anyone else think Bob Topps is typing with gloves on? (Hope that doesn't start another war). Well, have to go work on my pregnant ladies necklace for Nadia...hehehehe
e. ~Amae
Amae - 12/02/99 04:37:23
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
**** NADIA (27)**** Your post was soooooo funny, I almost peed in my pants! I never thought about using those ladies for jewelry (hahahhahhhhaa). **** GW **** You are a funny guy as well. I liked the clarification about the ho girlfriends. Funny you
aid Melbourne, Australia (not Florida) because I live very close to Melbourne, Florida. I think Steve (or was it Rob?) posted about "Fall acne". It was in the past couple of days, too. I agree with what he said because I have noticed the same thing. B
the way, INXS pales in comparison to DMB!!! Into week 2 now and have dry lips, peeling skin, and big hopes. ~Amae
kristin - 12/02/99 04:05:33
My Email:kristin333om@aol.com
Gender: female
Age: 24
Comments:
took me long enough to read through all the new posts! SHAWN: i like hearing you speak of your daughter, i'm a young mom too (my son is 4 1/2) and its nice to know other young moms are out there. DENNY: i know youi're feeling shitty, but i think you'
e a pretty cool guy, i'm enjoying your posts, and i hope you keep posting b/c some human contact is good! so smile, the nose zit will go away, and new years is amateur nite anyhow. STEVE: i'm also enjoying yuour posts, let me add to the cocaine comment
by saying that that crap is cut with so manychemicals and dirty stuff that it comes out through the skin. if you've ever seen a meth addict they have the worst skin! funny though about the marijuana paranoia. GW i'm so jealous that you're having summer
freezing my butt in usa. mike wallace is some newsshow guy (60 minutes?) i'm going to check out the celeb site. BOB so why does accutane work but not vitA? one woiuld think that A would do the job. i agree with you on the food zit connection. to
ll, take care always remember that there are people who see beyond your skin. acne sucks big time, but there are worse things.
Denny - 12/02/99 03:42:01
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Comments:
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Rob - 12/02/99 03:19:50
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com.au
Gender: male
Age: 24
Comments:
UPDATE:This can be very testing at times. It is exactly 3 months since I started on roaccutane. I have three months to go and I hope things start to get better soon. No new cysts, which is good, however my face still looks crapy! I have a real lack of ene
gy latley. My face is constantly red, somtimes it is ok. Some red marks that wont go away, And have been getting some headaches again. I found Cetaphil cleanser to be good. I only use it in the morning, and do not use any thing else on my skin, with the e
ception of a moisturiser (neutragena. Lips are really dry but I use hamilton lip balm constantly through the day and at night. It seems to keep it under controll.Some slight joint pain. I do feel really depressed, and with the lack of energy I am not able
to train as I normally do, which get my depressed anyway. Well everyone says hang in there, so I will. Good luck to all. ROB.
Rob - 12/02/99 03:09:03
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com.au
Gender: male
Age: 24
Comments:
RoXy - 12/02/99 02:05:31
Comments:
GW: Didnt you say you were leaving "sweaty boy"??
- 12/02/99 01:54:24
Gender: female
Comments:
About the whole face washing thing- if you wash too often or too harshly, you could end up over drying your skin, which then produces extra oil to compensate, and then you know what happens... And to the person who said that his model friend has bad hygi
ne and has great skin, I know what you mean. My boyfriend washes his face in the shower with the shampoo residue, and that's it! He doesn't do anything to his face until his next shower. He has perfect skin! It kills me.
GW - 12/02/99 01:26:26
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Hey FOXY ROXY surfer chick we know the surfs up you don't have to post twice.....
GW - oops - 12/02/99 01:21:45
Comments:
This is meant two be "Two hot girlfriends, you know, two babes...........not "Two ho girlfriends!!!!!!!!!!! (if you don't know what a ho/hoe is than its best you remain ignorant.................)
RoXy - 12/02/99 01:21:34
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi everybody..I am happy today because the surf is up...screw the pimples...I am so sick of being worried about how I look and what peole think of me...I seriously believe that I am over it! Accutane does seem to be working well, for some reason I am ext
a dry today, when normally I am not even flaky. Are'nt you guys tired of looking in the mirror all the time and feeling shitty? I know I am. I used to stare at my self in the mirror and think "why me??" Well, anyway I hope some of you get where I am bec
use it feels good not to give a f*ck instead of being worried every single day. Week 11.5 a few teenie weenies but I am not complaining...to **BROOKS** my dermatologist actual recomended Neutrogena because they are oil free, soap free, and it has skin so
thing ingredents in the actually wash. He also said NOT to use any moisturizer...but I do use sunscreen. The sunscreeen helps with the red marks and how long they will take to fade...hope this helps. GOOD LUCK! Email me if you want to chat...
GW - 12/02/99 01:19:15
Gender: male but currently single
Age: approaching adulthood, soon allowed to (legally) go to casinos, pubs, clubs, crazy horse (just kidding)
Comments:
Don't forget people: WWW.SKINEMA.COM for all those famous, popular, sexy, loveable, rich, good-looking people with acne scars.
RoXy - 12/02/99 01:18:46
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi everybody..I am happy today because the surf is up...screw the pimples...I am so sick of being worried about how I look and what peole think of me...I seriously believe that I am over it! Accutane does seem to be working well, for some reason I am ext
a dry today, when normally I am not even flaky. Are'nt you guys tired of looking in the mirror all the time and feeling shitty? I know I am. I used to stare at my self in the mirror and think "why me??" Well, anyway I hope some of you get where I am bec
use it feels good not to give a f*ck instead of being worried every single day. Week 11.5 a few teenie weenies but I am not complaining...to **BROOKS** my dermatologist actually recomended Neutrogena because they are oil free, soap free, and it has skin
oothing ingredents in the actually wash. He also said NOT to use any moisturizer...but I do use sunscreen. The sunscreeen helps with the red marks and how long they will take to fade...hope this helps. GOOD LUCK! Email me if you want to chat...
GW - 12/02/99 01:16:19
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
I'm sweatin' here like you wouldn't believe. Its almost bloody forty degrees and our aircon. just broke down.........SHIT..............but this is good, its gonna force me to get out a bit, might go to the shops or ring a few friends. See ya dudes.(and
udesses)
GW - 12/02/99 01:14:27
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
There's enough sun here in OZ and those tanning things are a no no, I dont want to end up with skin cancer (2 out of every 3 Australians ends up with skin cancer- scary huh). Anyway, last summer for me was brilliant (that's dec98- jan/feb99) I had two ho
girlfriends (not at the same time). I was going out, having fun, I didn't even know what acne was if you want the truth (I did, but didn't ever think about, if you know what I mean). Anyway, come about March this year it all came tumbling down. Haven'
had a girlfriend for six months, but I'm almost finished roaccutane and I think I'm on the way up again. I just don't want the same thing to happen again and the end of this summer, and I don't want to tan on purpose, very bad for your skin. Anyway, an
one, with advice, experience, whatever, I want to hear from you, be you a dude or dudess..........from the boy down under.
Denny - 12/02/99 00:25:44
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Comments:
Hi,
I want to thank everyone for their kind words. I have just odered a pizza, and while waiting for it to arrive, I thought Id give you guys a quick update: NOW, I have not left my apartment in about three weeks (with todays technology, theres no reson to le
ve the house) THough I am going broke, Im actually enjoying myself. thers no sunlight to age my skin or people to laugh at my BIG ZIT on my nose.. TO the person who said i needed fresh air, I have a humidifier/air filter that providees better quality air
han the stuff outside...listen to me rationalizing my reclusiveness, (my relatives were worried about my faux illness-the plan worked)...re:new years. I prefer a good book to a crowded bar any day, and new years eve is just another night alon for denny..i
egot to go the food just arrived..
-DENNY
Nadia - 12/02/99 00:23:16
Age: 27
Comments:
I don't want anyone to take offence at this or think that I am making light of our predicament, but I wanted to share some of the games that I've played while waiting for Accu. to work. 1) Keep a drawing of where your zits are coming on a daily basis, at
he end of the week review this collage for possible evidence of extraterrestrial communication. 2) Pick your favorite zit and decorate it. If you are like me when you get these things it looks like I am Zeus giving birth to an Athena through my face. I ha
a huge one in the middle of my forhead that I turned into a third eye. It was the first time in my life that the cysts actually helped my self expression (they do make very effective pupils you know). 3)My hair is staring to shed a little rapidly but I a
saving it to make a sweater from it. 4)The charming little cardboard pieces on the blister pack (with the pregnant woman with a line through her) I have been making into jewelery, earrings, necklaces, bangles. Their shape is great andyou can always say t
at you are wearing them in support of population control. Bye All!
- 12/02/99 00:17:24
Comments:
GW- i have the same problem, i was tan and great in the summer but not now. im thinking back to old posts about a dermalux lamp or something, well, my point is maybe short trips to a tanning studio. i dont know.
GW - 12/02/99 00:14:52
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Alright PEOPLE: this sun thing is messing with my head. How many people have posted saying they have awesome, tanned, girl-loving skin in the summer (including yours truly). (Toppsy, I don't know what the hell your own about with "symmetry.") Countless.
And then, come autumn and it all comes tumbling down, the bastard returns and with a vengeance indeed. How can this be prevented? ANYONE KNOW. I now know why animals hibernate in winter.........................feel free to reply.
Nadia - 12/02/99 00:13:56
My Email:meetok@altavista.com
Comments:
Hello All! Thanks Elle, keep up the good work. SPUNKY- I had a itchy, burny rash on the back of my hands that I tried putting my moisturizer (Aquaphor) on it. It seemed to make it worse and make it spread. Are you moisturizing theses areas? If so you may
ant to stop and see if it helps. Someone had mentioned something about a cortizone cream for the rashes you get on the drug. Hope it helps! DENNY- I worked out of my house for a couple of years and I certainly didn't want to go out of my cave ever! I empa
hize with how you feel. If you need to hibernate now it's ok, things will change for you, they always do. "Whatever get you through the night" Be gentle to yourself and keep posting. Good luck everyone!
GW - 12/02/99 00:08:41
Comments:
Toppsy, once your in, click on actors in the side menu and then go through all the pages, there's about ten or so.
GW - 12/02/99 00:02:49
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Bobby Topps, get with it my friend. I don't think you are looking at the right pages. There is about five pages devoted to stars with acne scars, not scars from falling down a bloody tree or whatever. Go back there. Yes New Sensation kicks arse (Live
Baby Live...as the skydiver said), but if you study their other albums you'll find that some are right up there with "Kick," even though they may not have sold as many copies. (My personal favourites are "Shaboo, Shobah," "The Swing," "Listen Like Thiev
s," and "X." Of course I have "Kick" as well. Have you heard "Mediate??"******************Anyway, Toppsy, you have a defeatist attitude at the moment and I hope it doesn't rub off on others. Take roaccutane again and be zit free. And go back to that
age, I don't think you were clicking on the right links.........feel free to reply.
Bob Topps - 12/01/99 23:41:16
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
GW: First, I believe the BEST tunes form INXS are from 'kick' sure they had hits off other albums but not nearly as many as off 'kick'..its theri best, nuff said (new sensation is one of my favorite tunes). Secind, I have checked out www.skinema.com. and
aw some famous people withj scars. Scras form falling down, or getting hit by a ball, etc. Tom Cruise doe snot have pits in his face nor doe szany other hollywood star, youll NEVER convice me otherwise. its OK I'm not counting on being a movie star. Right
now I could probably be a stand in on some movie if they run out of people with pits on their face (maybe a sci-fi flick).
Futhermore, I do accpet that acne has won. I WILL NOT go back on Accutane. Tis not needed. once a pizza face ALWAYS a pizzaface, ill stand by that too.
Re:diet. Dont get me started. i know there is a sugar-zit connection and Ill stand by it.
Re:white christmas. Personally, id find year-round sun redundant. Its the miserable bleak atmosphere of these fridgid months that make summertime my favborite season. And yes, the sun is good for your face if you have zits, becasue a tanned face displays
ore symettry....
Good LUCK!
Keep on going guys, its almost christmas - 12/01/99 23:41:14
My Email:n.heppleston@uea.ac.uk
Gender: male
Age: 21
Comments:
here there everyone, especially to ELLE ad ANNITA, you aren't the only ones in the UK, i'm here in Norwich feeling semi-annoyed about the great affliction.
To DENNY, life isn't really all that bad, yes people will look at your skin (i often wonder what my flatmate says about my face behind my back), but sod 'em, you still have a life to live - i'm sure that a lack of fresh air will have a detrimental eefect
n the old complextion. and when it comes to the girlfriend line, who doesn't want one (or boyf for that matter). i sometimes wake up in morning thinking 'shit i wish i had someone to wake up next to', then i think ' but hell, if she saw my skin, that woul
really put her off', then i get to thinking that i really don't need a girlf after all... sad ain't it???
on the subject of females, i was down the pub tonight and i started to talk to the barmaid (who was rather nice), and then i thought, oh shit, she'll have seen my skin, stop talking. so i did, yet she didn't seem to notice my skin once. ah well, i mig
t try it sometime and speak to her some more.
keep happy everyone, it does rule our lives, but just think that one day it won't, and just think how happy that will make you - it certainly bring a smile to my face.
Nick
GW - 12/01/99 23:17:25
Comments:
Sorry, more like about 98-99.............
GW- currently....... - 12/01/99 23:16:19
Comments:
Currently 37 degrees celsius in Adelaide, Aust. Only the second day of summer........(this is about 94 faranheight- am I right???) You know, I think white christmas' would suck. You'd get up and you look out the window, its all dark and gloomy and cold
..........give me hot weather anyday........and besides, it makes your acne better, doesn't it...............??????????
GW - 12/01/99 23:12:18
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Sorry dudes and dudesses I don't want you all to think I'm illiterate: I WEIGH (not way) 63.........*****
GW - 12/01/99 23:07:41
Comments:
Don't forget people: WWW.SKINEMA.COM for all those famous, popular, sexy, loveable, rich, good-looking people with acne scars.
GW - 12/01/99 23:06:08
Gender: macho man
Age: 7 weeks away from 18
Comments:
Bobby Topps: Are you crazy?? What you Need, Original Sin, I send A Message, Listen Like Thieves, Suicide Blonde, Disappear, The Stairs, By My Side, OneXOne, This Time, Don't Change, Black &White, Baby Don't Cry, Beautiful Girl, Elegantly Wasted, Bitter T
ars, Heaven Sent, Burn For You, Kiss the Dirt.................just a small, small sample of tracks on albums other than "Kick" and I could go on and on and on..............you get the picture. Fact is Toppsy, they were almost already the world's most pop
lar band even BEFORE "Kick" was released in 1987.******************************************************Toppsy again: NO, we don't have to be defeated by acne and I think its shameful that you are telling people this. Why don't you take roaccutane again?
???? You can do better Toppsy. I still think diet is irrelevant. I've had McDonalds five times in the past four days (settle down people, I only way 63KG and I'm 180cm) and still my skin gets gradually better every day.**************Andreas: Great Post
pal, and THERE is another dude with great skin in summer, and acne in autumn***************************************************Denny, I'm sorry you feel that way Bud, but remember you can always post here. And don't spend New Year's alone. You don't des
rve that Pal.
Brooks - 12/01/99 22:45:25
Age: 18
Comments:
Here's a good site for everyone! Hope you all like it! http://www.4acne.com/
Brooks - 12/01/99 22:41:02
Age: 18
Comments:
**************** To Allison ******************* I've been on Accutane for 3 weeks also and I'm just expiriencing red face also. My face flushes hot red sometimes for no reason. YOu can't do much have you tried Aveeno cream. That's the best I can help you
ith. Good luck.
To PAUL - 12/01/99 22:39:48
Comments:
One more quick question. What's the deal with the site? Can't get those pictures!
Hey BETH - 12/01/99 22:37:21
Comments:
My pleasure and yes I did mean the song from KISS.
I'm just about to see my derm for my second appoinment while on RoA. Hope he has good news.
Currently 9:30a.m. in Melbourne, Australia (not Florida). Top of 36 deg C. (96.8 deg F). Gotta fly.
spunky - 12/01/99 21:15:38
Comments:
help. My skin on my upper arms is rough and re and scaly. is this acittic keratosis??? it itches once in a while. It almost looks like acne but it's not. what is this???? is this why my face always looks red and weird??? this is really scary. Some
ne please help me. It looks like it's spreading, any advice?? thanks
~*Allison*~ - 12/01/99 20:53:01
Gender: chica
Age: 16
Comments:
I've been taking accutane for 3 weeks, and sometimes my face gets really red. Is it because my skin is dry and that i need to put moisturizer on it, or is there nothing i can do about it?
Steve - 12/01/99 20:50:18
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
OH YEAH, somebody asked me about cocaine use while taking accutane but I have no idea because I don't use it. I did use it a few times early in college before accutane and I would recommend avoiding that shitty drug altogether, just out of principle.
Steve - 12/01/99 20:41:54
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
DISCLAIMER: My comments on recreational drug use and accutane are based solely upon my own experiences and should not be taken as scientific fact for anyone to rely on when making decisions regarding this matter. COMMENTS: I have used alcohol, exctasy, ls
, and marijuana while taking 40mg of accutane twice daily. I have had no abnormal physical effects while using any of the aforementioned but I suspect that the compounded stress on the liver from alcohol is something you should avoid. Also, and most impor
antly, I would avoid marijuana if you are experiencing any side effects from accutane. Marijuana has a tendency to induce paranoia and if you are feeling at all anxious over the effects of accutane then getting high will just bring these feelings out in
spades.
Exctasy(MDMA) is a synthesis of amphetamines and I have heard that it taxes your liver but as far as the percievable effects while on the drug, Yeee Haaa! Go for it. LSD is completely psychoactive and should act independently of accutane.
Denny - 12/01/99 19:34:32
Gender: male
Age: 25
Comments:
Hi!
thanks for the owrds of ecouragement. Let me say first off, ACNE is a pisser. Speaking of, I have tried everyhting people (I once doused my face with my own urine-I read that this woudl do the trick), I even went to the point of smearing perxide on my fa
e ervy day...
NOW..I am a recluse. I haven't left my apartment in weeks. I have all food delivered to me (im runnin gout of money), I wont answer the phone (no one calls me anyway). Its all part of my new philosoohy; The outside world=stress. Be it environmental, like
the sun and wind, or people (why do they stare?)..all i want is a grilfriend, before im old and grey. they ignore me, so now i live like a hermit(i plan on spending new years eve alone. like i did thanksgiving).
WHO CARES., everyhting ids overrated anyway. sex is overrated. accutane is overrated. retin-a is overrated. Nothing is as good as its cracked up to be...
ill keep you guys posted on my self-impsed exhile.
thanks for listening to my diatribe.
-DENNY
Andreas - 12/01/99 19:09:47
My Email:cedric_rules@hotmail.com
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
I live in Finland (Nokia´s homecountry) and my mark in English isn´t that good so I hope you excuse me for my bad language.
To the point: I´ve had acne ("finnejä" in finnish) since I was 14. The first two years the acne wasn´t that bad though and since several of my friends had as much as myself, I thought the acne would go away in 1-2 years. That´s exactly what happened to mo
t of my friens while I and one of my friends began to get worse and worse acne at the age of 16. I went to a doctor who gave me a salve called Skinoren and an outer antibiotic called Dalacin. This cure was very successful on me the first five months but t
en my acne got bad again (in spring).However, in the summer my skin started looking better again and I was quite happy with the situation. I even had sex with some girls (hot ones) in summer and when I asked them whether my acne disturbed them they said t
at my skin wasn´t exactly perfect but my eyes and soul were beautiful and that they really didn´t care about my skin, they cared about me. When somebody says that to you you feel veeeery well, believe me! BUT, BUT!! in the fall (around Sep), I began to ge
bad acne again and at the point when my skin had never been worse I decided to go to the doctor again. I did, and she put me on a Roaccutane cure (20mg and 40mg every other day) Is that a normal dose??. In the first week the skin actually got better but
n weeks 2-4 the acne got worse (should be normal). After that I didn´t get any big ones and the skin improved again UNTIL the 7th week when I got three big spots, IS THIS NORMAL??? (If you have expierience of this situation, PLEASE WRITE). I have now take
the cure for 7 weeks.
Another question: Im really suffering because I can´t drink any alcohole when on this cure (at least my doctor says so). Does anybody know what the alcohole does to someone who is on roaccutane (produces acne??). Is anybody of you drinking when on cure??
LEASE WRITE!!
It´s so boring to be "clear" when all your friends are drunk, you feel like an "outsider".
Good luck with your cures, all of you and please write.
BYE!
Brooks - 12/01/99 18:13:34
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
*************To Roxy******************* How's the neutrogena stuff? I was thinking on using that but I was not to sure. I'm using Clean and Clear in the morning and the Aveena Bar for Acne skin in the bath/shower. I also use a rx called Phisohex... ******
*****************************************************************DOES ANYONE ELSE USE PHISOHEX?***************************************************
- 12/01/99 17:56:17
Gender: Female
Age: 41
Comments:
My son is in week 5 of accutane and doing very well. I wanted more information on this medication when he started and found this site. Can I say that what I believe has helped him the most is prayer. We prayed and asked for prayer that the Lord would bles
this medication and he did. Think about it!
Bob Topps - 12/01/99 17:34:31
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
GW: First off, I think that 'kick" was INXS' best album, the follow ups were dissapointing. )their greatest hits are comprised mostly of songs form "kick". Second, I dont have an pbsession with Tom Cruise. Some people say I look like him. I am jealous of
he fact that he won the gentic lottery and I won a door prize. he has a hot wife (8dont get me started on their false marraige), and a great career aswell.
to DENNY and Im ded: I feel for you. I was once a recluse myself. I was on Accutane for a wahie, and like I said those damn zits came back. Som epeople are just cursed....accept defeat its so much easier than pawltry excuses.
to Aaron: washing your face does nothing for zits. the problem is internal, like hormones and diet.
Good Luck!
- 12/01/99 16:57:29
Comments:
US here...whats the big deal? anyway...the diet accutane thing it because high triglycrides...less fat lower tri's...accutane seems to rasie them if you eat like a pig....
Karen - 12/01/99 16:47:41
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hi ANITA and ELLE - I'm keeping you guys company coz I'm also in the UK! - But you're right, it's definitely all happening on here when we're tucked up in bed!
Quick update - Exactly 3 weeks on Roaccutane - Very clear last week - very happy. Not so clear or happy this week with a couple of those little blighters rearing their ugly heads (excuse the pun.) But I'm not worried and I will persevere.
Anyway, I have a question for anyone who may be able to shed some light... What is the issue with what you eat whilst being on Roaccutane? It's just that a number of people have referred to their diets and being careful of how much fat they consume etc.
y derm said absolutely nothing about diet and I have not read anything (other than on this site) about the Roaccutane/food relationship. Fellow UK chums - do you know anything about this or is this just something that is a concern in the US or is my derm
tologist just crap? Also (still on food) some people have mentioned that a side-effect was loss of appetite - Ummm. Errr. when is that exactly? :) Looking forward to hearing from you. Love Karenx
Beth - 12/01/99 16:31:13
Gender: female
Age: 44
Comments:
My daughter is on 60 mg. a day....40mg in the AM and 20mg at night. She is on about week 18 and should be done in another couple of weeks. She is really concerned about her hair loss, but still has plenty of hair left!! I'd appreciate anyone's response
about hair loss on Accutane. To whomever replied to my original message....did you mean "Beth", the song by Kiss? Thanks for the comment on seeking help for my daughter....I just don't want acne ruining what should be some of the best years of her life.
She is a beautiful, smart, athletic young woman, and should be enjoying her life, not hiding away because of her skin. I feel certain that the Accutane is doing it's job for her.
Steve - 12/01/99 16:10:08
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
My friend is a model for Calvin Klein and he told me that when he was on a shoot in Ibiza he didn't wash his face for a whole week because of the lack of fresh water. This guy has the shittiest hygiene ever and I don't think that in the six years I have k
own him he has ever had a blemish. That really pisses me off.
RoXyr - 12/01/99 15:37:13
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi guys! Week 11, woke up with a teenie weenie one on my forehead...I heard that the less you wash your face the better because of essential oils and lipids on the skin...dont gey me wrong this seems gross but what do you guys think? I am currently was
ing with Neutrogena Acne Wash, how about you guys? My skin isnt peeling dry so this wash isnt to strong for me....Do you think peeling and clearing are dependent variables? Your surfing scientist--RoXy
Anita - 12/01/99 14:50:52
My Email:anita.worton@modisintl.com
Gender: Elle
Age: 27
Comments:
Elle, No, you're not the only one in the UK...i'm here too!! But I think maybe we are the only two. I'm really intersted to find out what treatment you have had and how quickly you got your treatment...did you have to wait forever to see a derm and what
did he do for you...l'd love ot hear your story, email me if you can!
To BETH - 12/01/99 13:35:39
Comments:
Nice song, Beth. Anyway, what's your daughter on.
As in, her dose per day.
Just interested.
P.S. What I'd give to be 15 again and have my mother post on the internet asking for advice on her son's acne.
To EVERYONE feeling down, try SKYDIVING if you haven't already. Don't bother if you're scared of heights and don't even think about it without an instructor either side and two chutes on your back.
I should probably go for another jump. What a buzz.
Let me just tell you that when you start falling from 10000 feet, reach about 200 km/h (127 mp/h for all the countries not quite with it yet)in 10 seconds and all you see is some giant thing called planet Earth coming towards with a very unforgiving surfa
e, all you want to do is LIVE, baby live. So far, that chute opening was the greatest relief of my life. Do the course, you'll see how immense the natural instinct to SURVIVE is. Show the whole fucking world how you beautiful you are because you have acne
because you must be. It's called BALANCE ladies and genteleman. You make up for what you might seem to be lacking on the outside because you are beautiful inside. Let someone know about it. If you shine brightly enough, someone will see you. Let it shine
To the ladies getiing married and to all others married, how about a little prayer that we all find partners too one day. Some of us need all the help we can get. Best to you, and it's not HGPig, it's just me.
Steve - 12/01/99 13:21:48
My URL:http://accutane.bizland.com
My Email:webmaster@accutane.bizland.com
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Comments:
a HUGE thanks for everyone who has visited and supported my site so far...Thanks heaps...Im still looking for more accutane stories (preferably broken down into monthly or weekly journals)...If your like me, i love to read them, especially when considerin
the drug....Im coming up to the end of my fourth month at 60 a day and my skin is really looking better now...im happy :)) some words of advice BE PATIENT, it seems to take ages....talk to you all soon....please visit and join in on my site guys...sincer
y Steve - accutane.bizland.com
- 12/01/99 10:54:47
My URL:http://www.oocities.org/roaccutane999/
My Email:paul@holliday999.freeserve.co.uk
Comments:
tell me what you think of this web site, I will put what you want on it ! just tell me !
THANKS !
Elle - 12/01/99 10:25:12
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
Hi Guys, it seems I must be the only person posting in the UK as the action all seems to happen while I'm asleep!
TO NADIA - right on! Your comments hit the nail on the head! DENNY, IMALREADY DEAD and others suffering, please keep posting. Sometimes it seems that no-one in the world understands how you feel but the people that are going through it are right here o
this site. We all feel for you and want to hear from you. This isn't meant to be facile but I've been through some really hard times, no friends, no boyfriend. It's so natural to blame it on the acne. But maybe we just go through some bad times. My
ife is so much better now although my skin is still bad. Sorry, guys if this sounds stupid, I am really just trying to help. I really hope things work out for you.
TO ROXY I find flourescent lights are the worst by a long way. The best seem to be lights with a slight red/orange/pink tint - lovely.
TO MARIE thanks for your comments. Don't know what kind of acne I've got- we don't seem to get as much info as you over here! Pretty bad inflamed over my cheeks, chin and neck (that's the worst!) - not too bad elsewhere.
Take care, people. I'm at work so will post tomorrow.
Nadia - 12/01/99 09:05:44
Comments:
GW- I like your style and that you feel how much possibility lies before you. I can tell from your intelligence that it indeed does. It is very encouraging to hear. I certainly wasn't like that at your age.Keep reaching for the sky, if only beautiful peop
e were successful Bill Gates would not hold a monopoly. TO:I'M DEAD, DENNY, AUGUST and everyone else feeling beaten down about this disease, please keep posting about how you are feeling and remember that you can always turn to us on the board for help wh
n it seems like there is no one else to talk to. You never know when is going to happen in life but death closes all the posibilities, please keep trying and posting. To KATIE: I have tried alot of masks - I'm not sure are you on Accu now? Because if you
re I don't think a mask is a good idea. If you aren't, the only mask I ever had any luck with (obviously it did not prevent the acne, but helped to heal it quicker and when I felt the cysts boiling under my skin, it sometimes made them go away without bre
king the surface- but I had to use it as often as possible to get the results I needed) was Queene Helene Mint Julep facial mask. Hope it helps. AARON: I am on week five and am starting to notice a great deal of improvements, I think that you can look for
ard to a zit free XMAS. THANKS FOR THE CHINESE HERB GRANULE INFO. To everyone with abnormal blood results , please keep posting your experiences. Good Luck !
Katie - 12/01/99 07:55:38
My Email:kategray@yahoo.com
Gender: female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hi everyone. I am hoping someone might be able to tell me if face masks eg. mud, clay help the skin or just make it worse? Thanks
- 12/01/99 04:13:31
Gender: grl
Age: 35
Comments:
Hello, Nadia regarding your question about Chinese Herb Granules, The Herbalist mixes them up. They are different types of herbs. I started to look them up. I went to a web site that sells the herbs and I checked out a book at the book store. The book
did not have all the herbs in it that she gives me. Anyone could buy the herbs but there is knowing what to mix with what. She was in China for one year. I let her do the magic mixing. There is a Chinese Medica book but it is 150.00 I think. Jan -
11/30/99 15:01:51 I have used Pine Tar Soap to clean my face for a couple of years now. I use it to get the intial make up off my face then I use The Body Shops acne cleanser which is somewhat expensive so this way it lasts longer. It takes me several m
nths to use up one bar of the Pine tar soap. I found it at the Raleys Grocery Store.
Pam - 12/01/99 03:57:51
Comments:
GW...great link! (www.skinema.com)
Brooks - 12/01/99 03:50:41
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
**************TO Aaron ******************** Yes I say your face should look great by xmas! Good luck! And merry christmas!!
Brooks - 12/01/99 03:48:47
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
***************TO RACHELLE******************** I have had abnormal blood test also. You can e-mail me at cheeriogirl@hotmail.com Cholesterol was up and protien enzymes were low.....what did the docs to do you to slove this prob? I'd appreciate hearing for
you.
GW on the red marks - 12/01/99 02:59:29
Comments:
I found something in the Archives (DEC98) regarding what someone's derm said about the red marks.****" He said it will clear up the marks, however, while on Accutane the marks will appear redder. After treatment is over, they should fade quickly."****
- 12/01/99 02:33:51
Comments:
HEY SPUNKY I SAW YOU LOG ON TO AOL JUST ABOUT THE SAME TIME GW POSTED
- 12/01/99 02:28:58
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
ok, im looking for help from female not on accutane but using other treatments such as antibiotics or topicals. does anyone break out like right around pms time but then after a couple of days
GW to Bobby again - 12/01/99 02:26:56
Comments:
Yes Toppsy, they do and have put pit faces on screen before. Like I said if you don't believe me check WWW.SKINEMA.COM.......feel free to reply.
Candace - 12/01/99 02:26:21
My Email:doby@email.unc.edu
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
I really want to use accutane because I have had acne for quite some time, but I am a little hesitant because I run track and I don't want the medication to interfere with my running. My parents are unsure too about whether or not I should start taking i
now or wait. Please email me back with your comments and suggestions.
GW - 12/01/99 02:25:16
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Bobby Topps what is your obsession with Tom Cruise? (He's married to an Aussie, he knows the game.) Anyway, your right "Kick" is a masterpiece but you've overlooked "Shabooh Shobah" "The Swing" "Listen Like Thieves" "X" "Welcome to Whereever you Are" "F
ll Moon Dirty Hearts" and not to mention "Elegantly Wasted." Anyway, all I was trying to see Bobby Topps is that Michael Hutchence went on to make his life a success. He was classed as a sex symbol so don't think that acne is going to ruin your life.
Anton - 12/01/99 02:12:40
My Email:steve, sarah and imalreadydead
Gender: male
Comments:
Top of the Morning to all! I recently heard that swimming in a swimming pool for 20-25 minutes daily can help the skin on your body? has something to do with the chlorine in the water. any comments on it?? TO STEVE(age 26) your posts are very informative
nd i enjoy reading them. TO SARAH(age 33) i understood your post very well, how most people on this site still have their acne problems. but you give me a great deal of hope. AND TO IMALREADYDEAD, your quote, "life with acne sucks, but life without living
it sucks even more" sums up how i feel. your not alone bub cause we are all here for the same reason. cheers
Anton - 12/01/99 02:12:11
Gender: male
Comments:
Top of the Morning to all! I recently heard that swimming in a swimming pool for 20-25 minutes daily can help the skin on your body? has something to do with the chlorine in the water. any comments on it?? TO STEVE(age 26) your posts are very informative
nd i enjoy reading them. TO SARAH(age 33) i understood your post very well, how most people on this site still have their acne problems. but you give me a great deal of hope. AND TO IMALREADYDEAD, your quote, "life with acne sucks, but life without living
it sucks even more" sums up how i feel. your not alone bub cause we are all here for the same reason. cheers
Bob Topps - 12/01/99 02:11:34
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
To GW: yes i have heard of INXS as a matter of fact I think the album "kick" is a masterpiece. I didnt know Micheal Hutchence was a former pizzaface. But he was also a lead singer of a rock band. He dated a model. He wrote cool songs. His work wasnt hinde
ed by zits..TOM CRUISE does not have zits. He is the highest paid megastar in Hollywood, do you think movie studios put a zitface (or former) on a big screen?no.
Personally, I have accepted the fact that I will ALWAYS have zits. its alot less depressing to just accept it people, rather than obssess over it and become a hermit....
YEAH i was on accutane, as I said before. IT worked too. My confidence returned and so did my social life. Then they gradually returned. So now i just watch what i eat and load up on antibiotics..
So my point is just accept the fact that the zits (which are essetnailly a result of bacteria) will ALWAYS have the upper hand... it'll make your life livable...
GOOD LUCK!
GW - 12/01/99 01:56:23
Comments:
To IMALREADYDEAD: Sorry if I sounded harsh, but all I'm saying is that I know to some extent how you feel. Just be thankful for what you do have- your life, health, physical well-being, rather then dwelling on what you don't have. I know acne is fucked
but it is not all there is to life. I really think you should seek professional help and please don't do anything stupid. Whenever you feel like killing yourself or something like most of us have, just come on here and right down all you feelings, we d
n't care if its bullshit, we can help you, but ultimately you have the power. Look, I've got my End of School Formal coming up in five days and you think I'm looking forward to that. Like Hell. Like you, I've pretty much forgotten how to be social. bu
I'm not worried about it. You know why? Because its one night in my life. ONE NIGHT and that's it. I'm seventeen, I have many days ahead of me and I'm buggered if I'm going to sit here and worry about one night until my hair falls out. Anyway, I hope
I've helped, feel free to reply.
Vero - 12/01/99 01:48:57
My Email:VCruz@vto.com
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
Marie: Thank´s for your tip, I´m gonna do that.
After 5 weeks, my face is very clear and smooth, only one pimple in the chin and no more oil face, I´m very happy!! :) Roaccutane is working for me. Beside the drug, I take one "microdermobrasión" each three weeks and it helps to improve the appearance an
texture of my face.
Have somebody else tried it?.
imalreadydead - 12/01/99 01:43:16
Gender: male
Age: 23
Comments:
GW - Talk to me when you don't have any friends left and then tell me how well off you are. Of course there are ppl who are worse of then I am physically. There are ppl who are far worse of then I am with acne to. That doesn't make me happy though, kno
ing someone has it worse then me. I know I put myself in to the situation that I'm in today and I can't blame anyone but myself. When I was 18 like you GW, I was an outgoing guy, I think I was a lot like you in a way. But something just snapped. It's n
t a thing I can pull myself from anymore, does that make me a weakling or a looser?... yea it does. It totally sucks having no friends and if you read the posts here, you see that most ppl here are thankful for the support that they get from their loved
nes. I wish I had a loved one, but I don't. Anyway, I'm not the man I used to be and I know I wouldn't like me, so why should anyone else. I don't wanna sound like spunky, but I feel like Fade To Black with Metallica. I miss my old self in a way, back
then I had a future...I still do, but it's not the future I want. We all know of loosers in life. The drunks, bums, those who can't have a family, beat up their wives etc..., I don't want to become one of them. I do not want to die, I just want the mis
ry to go away. I don't think I can life my life without someone respecting me, we all want that I think. But how can anyone respect a person that doesn't respect himself ? I'm sorry for the bullshit I'm writing, but it makes me feel better in a weird s
rt of a way.
GW - 12/01/99 01:35:40
Comments:
Don't forget people: www.skinema.com
Aaron - 12/01/99 01:32:00
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Comments:
Hi, I been on roccutain for 5 days now, im not sure if there really is any difference - i think my face got dryer, and I notice my face is more red and i get more whiteheads at the moment, although its not too bad. Is this what is supposed to happen? How
ong before I can start to see a better improvement?
Is it unrealistic to think my face could be cleared up for xmas? Thanks
GW - 12/01/99 00:41:09
Comments:
By the way, who is mike wallace???
GW - cruel to be kind - 12/01/99 00:39:56
Gender: you should know by now.....???????
Age: 7 weeks away from 18
Comments:
TO IMALREADYDEAD....**************Okay, don't judge me here, because I'm an acne sufferer just like everyone else here. But mate, put life into perspective. I'm buggered if I can find HGPIG's post a few days ago but I'll try and paraphrase. Get with it
Go to the hospital and take a walk down a cancer ward, a children's ward and thank God your not a patient with an inoperable lesion. Okay, so everyone at this site is a sufferer of this fucked up affliction but we are FAR from the worst off people in t
e world. You must control the acne, not vice-versa. And someone else had some good advice once to - he said that you've got acne, so what. It looks much worse if you sit around like a recluse and just snub people. But if your open and up front people
ont even think about it.
Denny - 12/01/99 00:08:33
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Comments:
To the person wh o inquired about my 'lost weekend' YEP, I did spend the hoilday alone thois year. as mentione dbefore, I faked an illness, becasue my WHOLE family was going to be at the dinner table. Ive got this BIG ZIT on my nose tha tmakes me look lik
a gremlin. so i spent thanksgiving eating a turkey pot pie and watching James Bond movies on TV by myself. dont feel sorry for me, i inhereited bad skin and PICKED MY FACE for years becasue i was so obsessive. now i look like mike wallace.
ROXy: I have found that 'soft' lights accentuate the positive and decreases the negs..(the general rule seems to be the less light on MY face ,the better)BTW i read that flourescent light taps our skin of vitamins.just some info for ya.
I now plan on going to sleep. I will be dreaming of pretty women with asses that taste like french vanilla ice cream. then ill wake up to my own nightmare.
-Denny
Rene - 11/30/99 23:59:06
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hi Marie! I just lean on my fiancee. He is wonderful and is my best friend. I was afraid he would want someone acne free. He loves the person I am and now he loves how secure I am about how I look once again. I am an outgoing person and he is glad th
t I am not putting myself down anymore. He never had a problem with it and was always supportive. His biggest concern was us not getting pregnant while on this and nothing happening to me health wise. Acne was never as important as me taking the medicat
on and having side effects that would be detrimental to my health. Rene
steve to imalreadydead - 11/30/99 23:49:07
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
Hey buddy, please believe me when I say that there are people in the world who really can see you for the person that you are. Obviously you are a sensitive and thoughtful person or you wouldn't care about your life as much as you do. I know that nothing
any of us can say can help you deal with the assholes which you(and the rest of us) have to face on a daily basis. Just know that everyone who reads your message thinks about you and hopes that somehow your suffering can and will come to an end.
Jessica - 11/30/99 23:46:38
Comments:
Has anyone been thinking about surgery to remove scars? Well, I had the surgery a few months ago. It was a dermabrasion, a process where they literally scrap off the layers of your skin, so new skin can grow in. I'll share my experience with you...Can we
say utterly terrified? I was completely afraid, wondering if this would work and could I actually leave my house without makeup? After the sugery I woke up in a hospital bed with bandages around my face as it bled.
I went home with many pain medications and tylonel three's. My recovery took about 2 weeks and it was great. I never had to take one medication for pain, simply because it didn't hurt at all. It hurts more when I stub my toe, then the entire surgery did.
o if anyone is considering surgery, this actually works, its not perfection, but what is! And yes, I got the chance to go out without makeup.
RoXy - 11/30/99 23:40:27
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi, I have a question for some of you...what type of light is the best/worst for your complexion? It is frustrating when you look good in the mirror at home then in a different light you look way gross...I am moving into a new apartment soon and I want t
sabatoge all the light bulb to face friendly ones...Just a thought...thanks.
rose - 11/30/99 23:38:11
My Email:liverp@eircom.net
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
i think the website is great it shows just how many people have the same promblems as you or some to an even wrost degree.also i was just wondering if any one else became prone to infection as a result of the dry skin.or even just
a throat infections.it may just be coincidence
but since on the drug i have been ill alot.iwould like people to e-mail me if they have found this to
My experiences with benzoyl peroxide - 11/30/99 23:35:33
My Email:stevep@slip.net
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Comments:
I've always suffered from acne from age 13 to just recently - I'm 27 now. However, it just affected my face. I had tried many many skincare products including antibiotics, benzoyl perodixe, salicilic acid, etc.. but although they helped, they didn't cure
me.
Until about 3 months ago - I started working from home, and decided one week that I would try a different method - instead of a twice-a-day wash
with Oxy facewash (10% benzold peroxide) I would wash my skin about every 2 hours. This helped enormousely. Although I do get 1 or two small
whiteheads appearing every 2 or 3 days, it's nowhere near as bad as the 4 or 5 per day that I used to get. You do get extra dryness in the first
couple of weeks, but it does wear off.
My experience is that if you wash every 2 or 3 hours with benzoyl peroxide, then after a week you'll find you won't be getting nearly as many new whiteheads.
Pity I didn't figure this out 10 years ago. Twice a day just doesn't cut it.
Send me mail if you try my method out - let me know after a week what happened, okay?
rose - 11/30/99 23:34:54
My Email:liverp@eircom.net
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
i think the website is great it shows just how many people have the same promblems as you or some to an even wrost degree.also i was just wondering if any one else became prone to infection as a result of the dry skin.or even just
a throat infections.it may just be coincidence
but since on the drug i have been ill alot.iwould like people to e-mail me if they have found this to
imalreadydead - 11/30/99 23:14:15
My Email:finale
Comments:
When I read some posts here, I see many ppl who feel bad about having acne and I know what it's like. But most of you have families and friends and you should be thankful for that. Some women here are afraid of getting pregnant while on roaccutane…I wis
I had that kind of a worrie. I am all alone. I do not have anyone to talk to. The only ppl I talk to are the people at work and then that is about work. Be careful not to end up like me. If you still have anyone calling you, asking you to go to the
ovies or whatever, just go without thinking about that spot on your nose or whatever. Acne is a disease from hell…no-one understands it and no-one understands what it can do to the ppl who have it. Maybe that's the worst part of having acne, If you comp
ain, you're just being childish and stuff L If you isolate yourself like I did, you will regret that for the rest of your life. Life with acne sucks, but life with out living it sucks a lot more.
I have just given up on things. Acne/no acne…it doesn't really matter anymore. My life is not what I wanted it to be and I guess I have only myself to blame. Someone here said that suicide was never the answer…then what is the answer ? Can anyone tell
me that ?
imalreadydead - 11/30/99 23:13:44
My Email:part3
Comments:
I have not had a girlfriend in something about four years. The thing is, I have not talked to a person about anything not work related for four years now. The last time I had a phone call was in mars 1999 and before that it had been a few months without
a single call. Sometimes I imagine what my future will be like. I'm not dumb and I wanted to make something of myself but it just somehow didn't go that way. My future will be like this : I'll be a 40 year old guy on minimum wage. I'll be all alone, l
oking at all those other family men with envy. I'll live in a small flat, drink alone on Fridays except when I go to the pub to moan with the other loosers in life. About that time I'll write in the personal column, asking for a 35-40 year old woman to
eet up with a 40 year old shy guy etc… But it doesn't really matter 'cause I'm a failure in life and I can never stay in a relationship (I'd probably end up hitting the woman) I'll wonder what happened to the last 20 years and I'll wonder why I had both
red.
imalreadydead - 11/30/99 23:13:02
My Email:part2
Comments:
I'm not sure it really matters though if I ever clear up. The fact is that I have become a social wreck. I know I have only myself to blame so don't pound on me for being a whimp and stuff like that. I find it really hard to talk to ppl and I can nev
r look them in the eyes, I feel like I'm inferior and stuff like that. I find it hard to get out of bed and the worst of all is I find it really hard to go to sleep. When I try to sleep, thoughts enter my mind that I can't deal with so I have to be real
yreally tired in order to go to sleep. That totally ruins my day since I'm always tired at work. I couldn't stay in collece so I just dropped out. I just couldn't face all those ppl, they stared a lot and it's not comfortable. But besides that, it's l
ke I've lost interest in everything. Nothing amuses me anymore and nothing is fun anymore. So even if I do clear up, it wouldn't make me a happy man. I just don't know how to live life anymore.
imalreadydead - 11/30/99 23:12:12
My Email:part1
Gender: male
Age: 23
Comments:
I'm on week 7 and this is my 2nd course of roaccutane. Like most of you I've been through all the usual stuff (antibiotics, over the counter stuff, prescribed stuff etc…) but nothing ever worked. Now I'm pretty much clear. I have a few lumps on my chin
ine but that's hardly worth mentioning and I am also red in some places, but it's much better now than before. I've had dry lips wich I control with Elizabeth Arden nr.8 and I've had dry skin that I control with Aloe Vera gel (98% pure). But the worst s
de effect is depression. I don't know if it comes from Roaccutane or is just a result from my acne. I know that mild depression runs in my family but no one has had it as bad as me. I started Roaccutane when I was 19 years old and it cleared me up for
bout a year, then it all came back. Now I'm almost clear and I guess I'll be clear for about a year before I'll have to start it all again…
GW to Bob Topps - 11/30/99 23:06:30
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
There you go again with your rather cynical and negative attitude. You are very wrong, there are many, many actors, former pizzafaces, who have made it to Hollywood (I'm not sure its easy for anyone). I'll have to repeat myself. Have you seen Robert Da
i, the guy off Profiler. Have you seen the guy off Ally McBeal. Have you seen B Pitt himself. What about Bill Murray? Do you like INXS. Have a look at Michael Hutchence (RIP) a definite former pizzaface. NOW JUST TO SHUT YOU UP YOU CAN HAVE PROOF:
WWW.SKINEMA.COM - NOW GO THERE AND SPEND TIME WADING THROUGH ALL THE FAMOUS PEOPLE WITH ACNE SCARS AND OTHER SKIN CONDITIONS................feel free to reply.
GW to STEVE - 11/30/99 22:57:08
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
*****STEVE******- Your post about the sun was DEAD DEAD right, absolutely correct, the best explanation we've had so far. (but go easy on HGPIG, you know, everytime someone posted him a question he would always repsond, so I think your a bit harsh) Anyw
y, the EXACT SAME thing happened to me. Through last summer I had really good skin. (That's DEC, JAN, FEB here in Down Under). Anyway, in about late March this year I started to break out like never before with severe acne. So I too had "fall acne."
Its funny because its sort of a catch 22 in summer. Anyway, I better figure out what I'm gonna do soon because today is the FIRST DAY OF SUMMER!!!!!!!! .....and we have been blessed with a stunning 35 degree day (what's that, about 95 faranheight or so
ething). feel free to reply.
Steve - 11/30/99 21:50:49
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
Spunky, we all know that you are a decent person just trust us to judge for ourselves that HGPig is full of it. If you want to really know what I think about HGPig I'll tell you. I think he is as desparate as the rest of us to find something that he can
have hope will make his acne subside. That's how I feel at least, I just tend to keep my desparation to myself. Listen, were all depressed. Take me, last summer was the best of my life. It was the first time I have ever been hit on aggressively or caught
random chicks staring at me. I had tan, unblemished skin and now I am a goddam mess. All I can say is that once you drink from the silver chalice returning to dixie cups just doesn't cut it.
Bob Topps - 11/30/99 21:49:43
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
To reiterate, I have said that Marlon Brando and Tom Cruise DONT and NEVER had acne. Sure we all get a zit here and there but not to the extent I and others on this site have had. There are no "pizzafaces" who made it in hollywood easy.
Currently I have doubled up my dose of minocycline (the whole atmosphere of fall mkes my face break out) and now use Retin-A .025 every night. Also found a great shaving cream.
Denny:Im Sorry you pent the holiday alone. your face is not that bad, IT COULD BE WORSE.
krisitin:Taking large amounts of Vitamin A does NOT replicate the effects of Accutane. It just messes uup your liver and kidneys.
Don: washing your face does nothing but make it feel better. The problem starts form within, like your diet and hormones.
Paul:the site is great idea
Good LUCK!
Marie - 11/30/99 21:38:20
Gender: Marie
Age: 25
Comments:
Rene - Thanks so much! I can totally relate to what you are saying that around 60 days is when you should begin to really see something which leaves me 2 more weeks. Thants how I feel, like oh my god whats happening!! Its scary but I know there is ligh
at the end of the tunnel, I just wish it would get here alittle sooner you know. I really shouldn't worry Rene? 14 weeks on this is a pretty long time? I know how you feel saying you were a wreck - how did you stay calm? I am having alot of trouble w
th that! I guess I am just really scared.
Rachelle - 11/30/99 21:27:59
Age: 21
Comments:
Nadia--Hi, great to hear from you. Yes, I also have high triglycerides. But mine were around 280 or something and my derm said that I wouldn't have to stop the accutane, unless they reached around 600! So I have been on a strict diet, and hopefully thi
month, they'll be lower. But I cheated too, during thanksgiving week....I am on week 5, and am still having the breakout. But the first 3 weeks, my skin was better than it has ever been. Hopefully, it will look that good again soon. PAUL- I went to y
ur chat room, but nobody was there...
Rene - 11/30/99 21:22:46
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hi Marie! At 4 weeks I looked horrible...everything was coming to the surface. At 60 days I looked better and now I have the best complexion other than dry patches that can be controlled with a lot of moisterizer and the facial scrub every other day. I
do not like to wear foundation only light powder but my skin is so smooth that I could wear foundation and no one would know I had acne problems. I was a wreck at 30 days. I was OH MY GOD this is gross...its all coming out but after trying so many medic
nes/OTC products, etc. I knew I had a light at the end of the tunnel... I am also told I have a great sense of humor so it was easier to laugh at the side effects because I know they are temporary. My derm. also told me at 30 days that all I am going to
do is get better - which was true. There was only a few days around 12 weeks that I had 4 pimples appear out of no where but they went away...I was getting a small pimple on my jawline every other day or so...But the last 9-10 days nothing :o) Hang in t
ere...I still count the days...99 days...Another thing my derm. told me is to stay on the medication until you have been clear for a month and at this rate I will stop taking the medication in 41 days!! Please email us and everyone is really helpful on
roducts or side effects and what to do. If you start breaking out with rashes on the back of your hands get a prescription for hydrocortizon cream and apply to hands then put a lot of lotion over it. Talk to you soon, Rene
Steve - Accutane dosage - 11/30/99 21:18:42
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
GRADUALLY INCREASING YOUR DOSAGE OF ACCUTANE TO SEE IF YOU CAN HANDLE SMALL AMOUNTS IS WRONG. Here is why(I will try to repeat the words of my doctor as best as I can), Accutane has a cumulative effect upon the body. Even small females can tolerate large
dosages for a while. Side effects are not produced because you took 80mg for a week instead of 40mg. The synthetic form of vitamin A which accutane provides your body is stored and only after a significant amount has been saved will you start to see the
ore uncommon side effects. It must be realized that even with low, gradually increasing doses you will eventually reach the level where you have enough stored within your body to produce side effects(it will just take longer). With this in mind it is much
more advisable to get as much accutane into your system as possible right off the bat so that if and when you ever experience the less common side effects your body has already been experiencing a full dosage of the drug for an extended period of time. A
eduction in dosage at that point wouldn't necessarily mean a reduction in efficacy. If, on the other hand, you have been on a reduced dosage for an extended period of time and then start to experience intolerable side effects requiring you to reduce your
osage further then you will never have had a full dosage of the drug for any significant period of time. This reduces the drugs efficacy and requires you to remain on it longer. The whole idea is put as much of it into your body as soon as possible so tha
it can do its job, with maximum efficacy, until the cycle is done or you are forced to reduced the dosage. In the case of the latter you will be in a better position because you will be maintaining a high dosage with a reduced dosage instead of maintaini
g a reduced dosage with an even further reduced dosage. I hope that made sense.
Nadia - 11/30/99 21:13:07
Age: 27
Comments:
Week 5 40 mg 2X a day initial breakout subsiding! Skin smoothing. RINI- my eyes get really dry and scratchy too. My derm told me to see an opthamologist to make sure that there are no vision changes. On my box it lists persistant dry eyes as a potential s
gn of more serious problems. My appt. with the opth. is in a couple of weeks. I haven't found anything yet which helps with the dry eyes yet. Mine are worse in the morning.
MARIE and ELLE- good luck with the wedding I'm sure that you will both be beautiful. I'm on 40 mg 2x a day, as far as I know it is the highest dose. I had read something in the archives about how it is not the amount of Accutane the you are taking on a da
ly basis that matters but the cumulative amount. I guess if we stay on this dosage our treatments could be shorter, but I have to say that as far as side effects (except for the abnormal blood work, stick to strict low fat) it's really been no problem and
since I am starting to notice a differance well worth it.
sarah - 11/30/99 20:59:11
Comments:
sorry - I ran out of space - see message below for beginning of message. SO - I know these messages can be discouraging, but for anyone considering Roaccutane, if your skin is getting you down... I am so glad I had the courage to try. Now, of course, I am
dreading the course coming to an end... I wish I could take it indefinitely... My dermatologist reckons 60 per cent of people have a permanent cure - that's only a bit over half. I find it hard to believe the effects will be permanent. Why should they be?
Won't the glands start pumping out oils again, once the effects have worn out. My sebaceous glands are determined and tenacious, I know, and I reckon they'll kick into action again once the drug is out of my system. But nonetheless - what a holiday from s
ots this has been. It has been great. And I do so hope, hope, hope the effects last... Very best wishes to all you people out there - you have my greatest respect and admiration. Regardless of skin, I keep trying for a wider view. We are ornaments of the
niverse regardless of narrow views of beauty.
Marie - 11/30/99 20:58:03
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Elle-Congrats on your may wedding! You will look great and you are right what you said about marrying the man I love but I have been so focused with the acne and accutane that I kind of worry about it all the time. I know what you siad is the most impor
ant and I thank you and wish you lots of luck with treatment! as far as your dosage. it usually goes by weight and skin condition. I am 110 lbs and I take 50mg per day. I saw my derm yesterday and asked him if we could up it and he said no cause he di
nt feel my skin needed it at the point I am at and also I am to thin to up it unless absolutely necessary. If your derm gave you that, then DONT WORRY and take it as he said. You know you can ask to start off lower and increase as time goes by to avoid
ome side effects but I wouls start at 80mg like he said and see what happens. If you dont mind me asking, is your acne cystic or moderate or ...? Anyone out there at around 6 weeks and still breaking out alot? Thanks
sarah - 11/30/99 20:52:45
Gender: female
Age: 33
Comments:
Hello everyone - this is a wonderful site which I have visited quietly for several months now. I feel like quite an old lady in comparison to most of you, but I have suffered from moderate acne since I was about 14 - yes, nearly twenty years. I have a ver
pale complexion, and for all of my adolescence and young adulthood, for my university graduation, my wedding, pregnancies, jobs etc I have been blighted by acne. Reading the experiences of fellow sufferers has moved me very much. As other people have sai
, it's not something I like to talk about. My friends are all owrrying about developing wrinkles and here am I, still blotchy and spotty. It is no exaggeration to say it has had a profound effect on my life, my confidence, and my feelings about myself. An
way, having trailed through the usual treatments over the years - various antibiotics, Diane hormones, a whole host of alternative treatments - I was finally recommended Roaccutance. I can say most honestly learning about the drug has given me bad dreams.
I have worried and worried, I have read through this website - adn to be honest it hasn't helped, since most of the people who write do so because they are having problems with the treatment. Anyway, I have now been taking Roaccutane (45 mg - I weight 110
lbs) for three months, with one month to go. It has been absolutely brilliant. Yes - brilliant. For the first time in 20 years I have no spots. I had no major breakout at the start. My hair hasn't fallen out (it maybe thicker) and it is such a treat to ha
e to wash it only once a week, instead of every other day. My skin isn't greasy. It is absolutely wonderful NOT to be thinking about my face all the time. To have clear skin - only an acne sufferer can know how much that means. Yes I've had some side effe
ts - dry and cracked lips, a little skin peeling, and most inconvenient, dry and sore eyes. But there hasn't been a single day when these problems haven't been outweighed a dozen times by the joy of having smooth, ungreasy skin.
Steve - 11/30/99 20:44:43
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
To shawn: It's very admirable that you love your children and you can mention that in every one of your posts as far as I am concerned. O.K., now down to business. HEY EVERYONE. I have found out a few things that I think might answer some peoples posts...
. 1 - concerning tanning/sunlight. Here is my experience: Last year(winter)my acne took a turn for the worst after a five year battle and then in the spring it seemed to go into remission.
This is why: Since I was graduating from VT in May
I decided to take a trip to Cancun for spring break. It is real near the equator and you can get fried in less then 1/2 hour. I spent seven days baking. In that period of time my acne disappeared truly. Once I got back I decided to tan to keep my color wh
le I was still in school. Once I graduated I didn't have to start work until mid-september so I spent most of the summer at the beach or by the pool. Lemme tell you that the result was one awesome summer, a great tan, and NO ACNE. Once september rolled a
ound, my lease ended and I had to move to start my new job. I pretty much stopped hanging out in the sun cold turkey. The next thing I knew, BLAMMO, acne worse than ever before. My doctor told me this, that when you spend enough time in the sun as I had y
ur pores swell effectively cutting off your sebaceous glands. You can achieve this as long as you wish but you run the risk of developing skin like leather. Once you stop exposing your skin to sunlight or tanning beds the size of your pores decrease and y
ur sebaceous glands start to produce sebum again, in our cases {overproduce}. If you are not treating yourself with any anti-acne medication when this occurs the result can be very depressing. My doctor described it as "Fall acne" as he encounters a highe
number of patients with acne near the end of summer. Hope that helps. The next post will be about accutane dosages.
Elle - 11/30/99 20:14:53
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
To Marie: I'm getting married in May. If all goes to plan my treatment will be over by then - fingers crosed. I can't provide any experience of the medication as I'm about to start myself, but remember, the most important thing about your wedding day is
that at the end you will be married to the wonderful man you love. Skin problems don't mean anything compared to that.
To spunky: Vitamin E oil has really helped to heal my scars - they still take a while to fade though. Is 40mg twice a day a high dose? should i be worried?
to ben - 11/30/99 20:05:11
My Email:spunky695@yahoo.com
Comments:
you can email me whenever you want to, I realy am a decent person when I'm not enraged.
spunky - 11/30/99 20:03:45
Comments:
TO BEN: hey. Just wanted to say that you're story was very touching and I agree that we shouldn't fight as much but I'm just too stubborn and can't stand people listening to HGPig. Obviously the fight has ended with no winner which is definetely great
or this site. I hope that you get everytihng under control ben. I was on 80 mg for two months(160 pounds) then my derm put me on 40 because I was having kind of an adverse reaction. So 40 yeally isn't that bad. Well, I"m in week 14 and have been spot
ree for two weeks but I think I see one:(. Anyway, this stuff really does work, just give it time. I do think that it may ceause scars due to the EXTREMELY LONG HEALING PROCESS. Has anyone else had that problem. I mean pimples that take 3 days to go aw
y take 3 weeks now. does that cause scars??? And does anyone else have that problem real bad?? I mean, I have red dots where I have never had pimples. Any help would be appreciated. thanks
Marie - 11/30/99 19:54:18
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Elle - when are you getting married? I am getting married Jan. 22. I will be on accutane 14 weeks at that point. Thats why I am trying so desperately to compare noted with everyone else about how their skin was before accutane, at 6 weeks which is wher
I am at now and at 14 weeks which is where I will be. Help with these comparisons would be sooo helpful! I know its personal but I am a nervous wreck as you may understand which totaly doesn't help! Thanks to all kind enough to help!
Elle - 11/30/99 19:45:46
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
Thank you for setting up this site. One of the worst things about being the only person in your group of friends who still has acne is never being able to talk about it.
It's so sad to hear people saying they have given up jobs, missed seeing their families, or even thought about suicide because of this. Believe, me I know what it's like, but please please don't let this stuff rule your life. Who you are is so much more
mportant than what your skin looks like, people who are genuine will see that.
I've just got my first Roaccutane prescription today and will start next week (have to be sure I'm not pregnant first apparently!). I'm terrified actually - my doctor has told me to expect horrifically dry skin, nose bleeds and either losing my hair or g
owing it where it's not meant to be. I really hope it's going to be worth it.
To the girl who's getting married soon - me too! I'm sure everything will be fine.
Shawn - 11/30/99 19:34:01
My Email:googaboo@uswest.net
Gender: Female now
Age: 24
Comments:
P.S. Thanks to all who came to my defense......RENE, SPUNKY and the other anonymous one who could justify my pride in my kid. Thanks.....
Beth - 11/30/99 19:29:52
Gender: female
Age: 44
Comments:
I have a 15 year old daughter on accutane. She went through all the usual treatments starting at age 12, and finally was put on accutane. She has about 1 month left to go, and is finally seeing some improvement. I hope she stays clear once she stops ta
ing the medicine.....I'd hate to see her go through all that again, especially since I suffered through acne myself at her age. She has the dry lips and skin, and is losing an incredible amount of hair....luckily she has really thick hair to start with!
Has anyone else had a significant hair loss while on accutane?...Thanks, Beth
Marie - 11/30/99 19:28:26
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Vero, I didn't have the hand problem but my friend did and it lasted about 2 weeks. She used cream her derm gave her to help it. how is your face? is it breaking out alot? Shawn, you should be concerned about your daughter first! Thats what moms are
or!! I could not go through this if it weren't for my mom!! You sound like a great mom too!! how is your face doing? Rene - thanks again! Any other info would help!!
Shawn - 11/30/99 19:17:24
My Email:googaboo@uswest.net
Gender: Bitch at the moment
Age: 24
Comments:
OK -- to the scumf*ck that expressed his annoyance with me mentioning that I have resposibilities -- mainly my daughter. You can dump all the shit you want on me -- when you start dumping it on me because of my child then you've crossed the line. Good t
ing you aren't required to give a profile of yourself on this message board. Remaining anonymous is always the best when ripping on people -- makes it all the more interesting, doncha think? Alrighty then! WEEK 5 still and remaining stable for now. Dry
ess still present and dry lips, dry hair, etc. So, all's well at the moment. Still hanging in there -- WITH MY DAUGHTER!
Vero - 11/30/99 19:14:17
My Email:VCruz@vto.com
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
I´m on my 6 week on Roaccutane and three days ago my hands look so ugly because the red spots, what can apply on them? the skin in this area feels dry. How long this stuff lasts?
Thank´s a lot!
Marie - 11/30/99 19:04:20
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Rene, you just made me cry right here at my competuer at work! its really going to happen?!? I am so scared, Its like a paralyzing fear! Sounds stupid but is true! I really have have to control my nerves. Did you have that problem? Any suggestions to
help? How was your skin at 6 weeks? Sorry for so many personal questions but hearing others helps so much! Thanks a million Rene!
Rene - 11/30/99 18:55:25
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hello Marie, I am at 15 wks and since we are both female and closer in age than others, I wanted to let you know my face has never looked better. You will be beautiful on your wedding day. Hang in there!! Rene
Marie - 11/30/99 18:08:54
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Hi , sorry for the previous post. I was trying to see if I was able to post but I am so here goes: I have been on accutane for 6 weeks now and have been breaking out regularly bretty much the whole time. I weigh 110 lbs and on 50 mg per day. I dont ha
e cystic acne but persistant moderate acne. I have always had acne problems since about 15 which I controlled with benzoyl peroxide but in the last year it took a turn for the worst. my derm gave me retin a which worked for a while but i also think by m
laying in the sun all summer it helped. anyway, I went on accutane 6 weeks ago. I am experiancing the dry lips and skin but like I said I am breaking out regularly. I see some improvement in some areas but worsening in others. overall, not happy righ
now. when should I really see positive results? How were most of you at around 14 weeks, reason being that I am getting married. My derm says I will be fine but I am so scared. ny stress and nerves about this are out of control which is of no benefit
to this drug. Can anyone give me some advise and or hope and suggestions on true ways to calm myself down about this and trust the Accutane. any help would be so much appreciated. The only time I seem to relax is by hearing others people's experiances
nd positive things. Thanks to you all!!!!!
Marie - 11/30/99 17:55:16
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
xxxxx
Denny - 11/30/99 17:50:12
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Comments:
Hi!
Update: I have started a second course of Accutane. These breakouts (mnany of them out of the blue) are too much for me to handle. im so depressed. i have been on Prozac ever since my first treatment. It helps a little, but i still look in the mirror and
ee Edward james Almos..It SUCKS how even one zit leaves a PERMANENT PIT in your fdace..BTW . BOB: Marlon Brando DID not have acne, nor does tom cruise. thanks for your words anyway!
(I spent thanksgiving ALONE. Thayts right I couldnt face my relatives with the enourmous zit on my nose (the worst place, dont ya think) so i faked an illness and stayerd at my apartment, eating a turkey pot pie and watching tv..)
Denny
Rene - 11/30/99 17:48:23
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
HI ROB...Yes hot flashes...Just comes over you and I start to sweat over my top lip and my eyebrows sweat. I was driving with my fiancee and I had my arms crossed and he asked if I was cold? I said yes I am cold BUT my eyebrows are sweating. All I can
ay is its amusing. It happens about 4 times a day with me...but my complexion is GREAT so what's a little hot flash and watering eyes...Rene
Brooks - 11/30/99 17:42:43
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
*****TO RoXyr***** Yes I'm taking Accutane but the last time I tried it which was lasst Nov 1998 I had to get off of it because my blood was not normal. I'm going to for a test on Monday and if it's abnormal I'm thinkin gon trying natural stuff. Thanks fo
the help!~Brooks
RoXyr - 11/30/99 17:08:20
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hey **Amae**, GoOd LuCk!!! I hope more people follow your lead and my advice to post the week they are on and the effectiveness of the drug -hint,hint- it really helps to understand and compare whats going on with other people.
**Brooks** an anonymous person posts sometimes about Chinese Herb Granules, have you looked into that...a friend of mine said accupuncture helped temporarily...Good Luck with the accutane though, are you currently taking it? It takes a while to work...WE
K 11 and FINALLY no new pimples this week..red marks are still here..any suggestions other than Father Time? to help with these little buggers? I know sunscreen it effective in keeping the redness from getting worse, but what makes it better? Thanks and
good luck to everybody...stick to it...dont forget h2o bro!!!!
Brooks - 11/30/99 16:51:16
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
If anyone knows about any natural products could they please give me a shout?? Thanks! I'm on Accutane but I have a felling that the resutls will be abnormal so I was thinking of natural products! Any sugestions??
Brooks - 11/30/99 16:46:26
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
...........TO PAM...............Please e-mail me! cheeriogirl@hotmail.com I'd really appreaciate it if we could chit chat about the abnormal results! Thanks a lot!
- 11/30/99 15:21:56
My Email:user667@hotmail.com
Comments:
tar soap? yeah right.
Jan - 11/30/99 15:01:51
My URL:http://www.grandpabrands.com
My Email:jan@grandpabrands.com
Age: 1/2 century
Comments:
I'm writing to tell you about two products we make that may be beneficial to you. One is Grandpa's Pine Tar Soap, which many people use for skin conditions such as, psorriasis, eczema, etc. The other is Thylox soap which is specially formulated for acne
blackheads, etc. Hope this helps.
Catherine - 11/30/99 10:29:06
My Email:oglepants@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
To everyone who offered advice..'Thank you!'. I went out at the weekend and got drunk...I can honestly say the whole experiance is no different than it is when not on roaccutane! EXCEPT I got 3 MASSIVE cysts on my chin which are really painful 2 days late
so I think I found out what happens if you get drunk whilst on roaccutane!! I was relatively clear before so next time I'll be prepared!
Aqueous cream is helping with the dryness as you can wash with it as well as use it as a moisturiser.
I just hope that I don't have to take this stuff again after this course cos I'm positive I'm gonna end up with knackered skin and needing a new liver!!
strawberry - 11/30/99 10:04:29
My Email:jonathan2308@hotmail.com
Gender: male
Age: 19
Comments:
I sympathize with all of you, especially August. I love life, just not mine, not anymore. These are supposed to be some of the best years of my life, instead I cant seem to get a grip on anything anymore. I have many friends but only one I feel comfortabl
hanging out with. Id love to see and talk to my ex-girlfriend(in person) but I am too embarrassed of how I look. Im a college dropout(at least for this semester) cause I know that a degree isn't going to matter if I still feel this way. I live now day-by
day dreading what i'll have to face when I wake up. My first Derm appointment is this December 2nd and im going to ask about Accutane. Im very worried about the side-effects, but I figure that if Accutane doesnt kill me ten years from now, i'll be dead in
the next year anyway. AND to Ben, age 23, I plan on becoming a High School teacher and coach sports. please email me cause id like to talk to you. thanks for listening and my apologies, I am just venting.~Jonathan
Rini - 11/30/99 08:28:38
My Email:missrini@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Comments:
Hi everyone :) It's week 5 and all is well....although I had another peeling bout last week for some reason! Anyway, Steve...great site (at least I know it will be), I have emailed you to add my story and also give you product reviews. I urge everyone
o do the same. It is just what I want in an Accutane site.....personal experiences! And to Ben....good post, I enjoyed reading it :) Just a quick question....has anyone experienced really sore, dry and itchy eyes? They are driving me crazy this week!!
(I dont wear contacts)
GW - 11/30/99 08:12:53
Comments:
"This board is mostly garbage" what a bullshit statement..........more accurately: "Your post was mostly garbage." Go home.
GW - 11/30/99 08:09:20
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
.....And how interesting to note that the board has never been so popular than in the last few months.......dozens and dozens of posts a day. People just keep coming back for more..........Go look back in the archives and preceding months have never had
o many posts, and that's even if you take out the four people you refer to.........your statements are backed up by no info so I think YOU should a LIFE.........and while your at it shift your rather annoying rectum from here to some other place.
GW - 11/30/99 07:55:10
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
To the person who called themselves "old" about five posts below.... if you had read all the posts and were a genuine member of this board you would realise that in no way am I HGPIG or Spunky. What's more, you refer to the PIG as HCPIG!!!!!!!!! You idi
t. You have just hung yourself and proven to everyone that you are a BLOWHARD HALF-BAKED FRUITY ARSE FUCKNUT who just recently jumped on the bandwagon. Get with the program and start reading some of the archives.........plain and utter knob.
- 11/30/99 06:56:25
Comments:
TO ROB: I THINK A RED FACE IS JUST PART OF IT.
- 11/30/99 06:41:42
Comments:
TO TIGERBOY: IT IS NOT MEDICINE, IT IS POLITICS!
- 11/30/99 06:37:51
Comments:
SPUNKY, OR IS IT SPANK THE MONKEY !!!
Rob - 11/30/99 06:12:12
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com.au
Gender: male
Age: 24
Comments:
Does anyone get hot flushes while on roaccutane ? I mean, at times my face feels hot , gets really red and my ears burn? Any comments ?
Thanks. ROB.
jamie - 11/30/99 05:38:29
Comments:
WHEN WHEN WHEN will I see results? you know you all do this: cover up the cysts with Azelex (a big glop of it) and pretend that you can't see the white glop and then imagine how pretty/handsome you would be. used to work for me but now my whole face wo
ld be a white glop.
- 11/30/99 05:28:03
Age: old
Comments:
Hello, this forum is mostly garbage. O.K. I think Spunky and HCPig are one in the same. He/she needs someone to fight with and for that matter Spunky, GW, user667, and HCPig are the same fictitous characters. Whatever, I just scroll past them all but i
is ridiculous to have to scroll for 5 minutes to get to something worth the web page it's written on. Get a life.
Rob - 11/30/99 05:25:55
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com.au
Gender: male
Age: 24
Comments:
sorry, did not mean to post the first one !
Rob - 11/30/99 05:25:27
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com.au
Gender: male
Age: 24
Comments:
I have been on roaccutane for 3 months, my skin did improve but I havent seen much improvement latley. I have been told that it really starts to work obout 4 months into treatment for some. I do not have any cysts or pimples, some black heads. Can anyone
advise me on their experience ? also will the red marks fade ? Thanks ROB
PS. There are some of you that still make this a great site, thankyou.
Rob - 11/30/99 05:23:38
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com.au
Gender: male
Age: 24
Comments:
I ahve been on roaccutane for 3 months, my skin did improve but I havenet seem much improvement latley. I have been told that it really starts to work obout 4 months into treatment for some. I do not have any cysts or pimples, some black heads. Can anyon
advise me on their experience ? also will the red mars fade ? Thanks ROB
PS. There are some of you that still make this a great site, thankyou.
Nadia - 11/30/99 04:52:27
Comments:
Thanks Pam, I haven't delved into the archives yet.
GW - 11/30/99 04:29:53
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Bob Topps your post was very contradictory (sp?) and confusing. Of course famous people have skin problems you idiot. And of course they look perfect in movies because they are covered up with makeup and lighting etc... In photos also they just use com
uter imagery to wipe out the imperfections. Some of the people I mentioned had fairly prominnent acne scarring and the point I was trying to make is that it didn't stop them in the slightest in becoming successful. And nor should it....Feel free to repl
.
Pam - 11/30/99 04:22:12
Comments:
NADIA...and BROOKS...just saw the post about elevated triglycerides and cholesterol...I have had this problem throughout treatment with Ro/Accutane...and managed it through a combination of 1)diet...2)low doses of Ro/Accutane (20mg/day) over an extended p
riod (12 months) and 3)additional medication to lower my cholesterol...it is usual for people to experience transient elevation during treatment and this generally subsides upon cessation of the drug...however for people with a family history of heart dis
ase (like me)...it is a potentially serious problem which requires rigorous management...I have posted a lot about this (in the archives)...but if you have any specific questions I would be more than happy to answer them to the best of my ability...
Amae - 11/30/99 04:11:11
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
**FOR ROXY** Day 6 of treatment (20 mg in the AM and 40 mg in the PM)...side effects: nausea, dry lips, dry skin, a few very painful cysts. **TO BEN** What is your "conservative" dose? **TO ALL** I can't remember who suggested St. Ives Apricot Scrub,
ut THANKYOU. My face was sort of peeling today so I went and bought some and now it looks a little better.
Pam - 11/30/99 03:31:38
Comments:
BOB...for some people...Ro/Accutane is indeed a permanent cure for acne...I had a friend stay with me recently who participated in experimental trials of the drug...and he has remained 100% clear ever since...(for well over a decade)...I'm sorry if you ha
e not experienced this success with Ro/Accutane...and I also note that there are several others in your position...but suggesting that NOBODY will have a permanent cure from Ro/Accutane is simply untrue...
Ben - 11/30/99 02:16:45
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Comments:
Hello everyone. This is my first posting but I've been visiting this site often for the past few months. I wish to thank all of you have contributed, your words have helped me a lot in my efforts to deal with my acne and with my decision to begin taking
accutane. Recently, as you all know, the quality of this site has deteriorated significantly. This is very unfortunate. For those of you who insist upon posting abusive and irrelevant messages, PLEASE think about the impact of your actions. Many peop
e who visit this site come here for support and hope, relief from our lives which are often filled with stress and frustration. Subjecting us to further frustration simply is not fair. In a way you are holding us all hostage to your mean-spirited perso
al agendas. It is not helping. Please stop.
With that out of the way, here's my situation: I'm a 23 year old male, 150 lbs who one week ago began taking accutane at 40 mg a day. I have suffered from moderate cystic acne since age 14 and like a lot of you, have tried pretty much all other alternat
ves to treat my skin problems. Several months ago, I decided that the time had come to do whatever could be done to defeat this disease which had plagued me for so long. The straw that broke the camel's back (what a terribly gruesome idiom!) was my deci
ion to leave my job teaching English in Poland. The main reason why I left, I'm afraid to admit, was that, because of my acne, I was so uncomfortable being the center of attention The idea that my acne was influincing major life decisions horrified me.
decided to return to the US and wage an all out war against this evil curse. Like a lot of you, accutane was my weapon of choice.
So now i'm one week into treatment. I'm experiencing few side effects, if any (perhaps my lips are a bit dry). My acne has gotten a bit worse, but I suspect that this is largely the effect of stopping my previous medications (minocyline, retin-a, benzoy
peroxide). I feel like I've accepted the fact that for the next two months, my skin will be looking worse rather than better. I try my best to keep this in perspective; having more spots won't cause me to loose my job, get evicted from my apartment or
e abandoned by my friends. Despite the knoweldge that things will get worse before they get better, I'm now experiencing an odd feeling of peace, lightness perhaps. Whatever the outcome, I know that I have tried my best. For me, this feeling is wonderf
l, as for the past 10 years I have carried around with me so much tension, born from a fear of my own physical appearence. Acne sufferers, we are odd creatures
indeed!
Hopefully in upcoming weeks I'll have more to report. Strangely enough, I actually wish I could report more from the side effect department, as that would help me feel like the medicine is working. I do realize that my dosage is on the conservative side
The logic behind it I believe is that by starting with a lower dosage, my body will better be able to adjust to the accutane. Moving up to a higher dosage later then won't be so stressful for my body.
So long until next week. other accutane users, keep the weekly posts coming. They really help!
Ben
Steve - 11/30/99 01:46:44
My URL:http://accutane.bizland.com
My Email:webmaster@accutane.bizland.com
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Comments:
Hello Everyone...
First i would like to congratulate Gill on this great site. It has really helped a lot of people. This site has motivated me to start up my own site which should assist those people who are starting accutane (similar to the old acnesite.com)..The address
s http://accutane.bizland.com and I would love for you all to have a look and tell me what you think. As you can see, I REALLY REALLY need some of your experiences to add the site, I think if we get a lot then it will be a great site for all :) Im not try
ng to cut into gills website at all, i think my site is much different and I hope we can both serve the accutane users the best we can. As i said, my site is only new and there is much to be done on it, stop by and read my experience and hopefully that wi
l motivate you to write one and send it in :)) Im also looking for some people to give some reviews on products to use while on accutane. If you have a product (moisturiser, lip balm etc) that you think is great, please send me a mini review on it and sen
it in..Ill post it up as soon as i get it......Much appreciate your time and good luck with whatever treatments you choose and the future.....regards Steve.
Bob Topps - 11/30/99 01:46:40
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
There is so much I have to cover..
First to Denny: rememebr it could be worse. (you could be paralyzed) so suicide is never the answer.
]MYTHS (and tom cruise's pet peeves):
Accutane 'cures' acne: THis is not true! Roaccu just manages it, albeit quite wonderfully..believe me those damn red things return, htough in less magnitude.
Sex cures acne: not true. I wish it was true but people this is just another way to make single people feel shitty.
Even famous people have skin problems: wrong. I mean sure people like elvis had acne scars when his face was examnined up close. brad pitt and marlon brando may have them too. But htese people also have near perfect symettry (natures way of indicating hea
th). Their skull shapes, nose strucure cheek bones etc. also determine their attractiveness. Just look at Uma Thurman the girl has perfect face. SO what im saying is that acne is a persistent and insurmountable problem for many people b/ with bad genes.
But for now, until science can give us a real "cure" we live day by day...
Good LUCK!
Nadia to GW and Tiberboy - 11/30/99 01:45:18
Comments:
For the females there's Sonia Braga, Elizabeth Hurley the Spice girls (just to name a few). All beautiful and all with the same illness. We are also up against airbrushes. How many of us have taken advantage of this with school/wedding photos and the like
It happens routinely to all of the faces that we see on TV and the Moovies. Stick your best zit forward and keep on truckin.
GW- further to Nadia and Tigerboy - 11/30/99 01:16:14
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Indeed I have noticed the scars on Brad Pitt's face before. Like I have said before people, its no big deal really. Yes there are Hollywood stars with acne scars. You don't believe me?? If you watch that T.V show PROFILER you'll see that the actor Rob
rt Davi has acne scars. The guy off Ally McBeal who plays Richard Fish (I forget his real name) has them too. For those of you like myself who are big fans of INXS (just check my lyric posts earlier), yes you will notice that the late Michael Hutchence
RIP) had acne scars on his face. And this is only four people all who are very famous and yes there is many more. Most of the time unless you obsses about this fucked up disease like we do you don't even notice it. I would never have noticed so called
ex symbols like Michael Hutchence and Brad Pitt had them until I got acne myself. And PEOPLE these are men who have gone on to be very successful stars and undoubtedly millionaires. All I'm trying to say is it is not the end of the world if you have acn
or scarring because its very common as we see from the big stars who also once suffered. Feel free to reply. ******GW*********
RoXy - 11/30/99 01:13:52
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi everyone, hope you had a happy Thanksgiving...if anyone has benefited from birth control pills please post or email me with the specific name. i am a little worried about starting them again in the middle of my treatment because some people complain a
out initial breakouts...so girls whats the story? Thanks alot. Week 11 all clear but waiting for red marks to fade!!!!!!!! How about the rest of you, posting the week number along with the drugs effectiveness in each post would really make this site mu
h more informative and not so useless.............
Emily - 11/30/99 00:56:43
My Email:starrbuck@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Comments:
So I've tried the goat soap. I'd have to say that it is not for me and I'll go back to using my Cetaphil for now. The goat's soap was very bad to say the least. My face is red and hurts. I think maybe I had an allergic reaction or something. My face
id not like it at all and my friend said it looks like I got a sunburn over the weekend(which she laughed at because we have like, 8 hours of sun a day right now, it being winter). So I tried it and I can honestly say it isn't for me.
I - 11/30/99 00:54:08
Comments:
Nadia - 11/30/99 00:26:15
Comments:
Tigerboy- Good luck in your pursuit of romance. Please go for it. So many of us let opportunies pass us by waiting for our faces to clear. Look at the scars that Brad Pitt has on his face, and Edward James Olmos. These are sexy men who are achieving what
hey want and who once had the same problem as us. Use the attraction that you feel for her to establish the bond, people always appreciate sincerity. If you don't act you may be cheating yourself of your greatest ally to your self esteem. My husband never
had my problem and is incredibly handsome,his support and love through this horrible time has saved me. You can find that for yourself.
Chinese Herb Granules - 11/30/99 00:12:01
Comments:
To the lady that posted about these, could you please say more, you said that the herbalist has to mix them for you, does this mean that it is her own special concoction or is there a brand name that goes with it? Thanks- Nadia
Tigerboy - 11/30/99 00:05:44
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
PEOPLE I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT THING THAT I NEED THE FORUMS HELP ITS ABOUT LOVE
I have been on RoA for 6 weeks, and my face is nilly clear bigtime. I like this girl and I'm going to go after her but I warried that when I tell that I'm on RoA, she might freak out. I'm alos scared that through the rest of my 6 month treatment, that i m
ght have breakouts and she might not like me as much as she used to. SUPERFICIAL BULLSHIT HAY. I'm an attractive guy, I was once outgoing, I had charisma, now I'm nothing but a defenseless guy trying to get a glamour who I know I may not get. All because
f some stupid spots ACNE. Someone wrote pretty much the same post, im sorry but i did forgot your name. I understand 100% actuallu 110% because I know how it is to want someone so bad, but you just stay at home, waiting for the pricks to get off your face
and become the REAL YOU AGAIN. And then you become vain, which is weird. I'm just hoping she sees the real me, and yer hopefully we will like hit it off. She is so nice, i dont want to miss another opportunity. Help people, cause I need how to tell her an
how to also what to do
Thanks FORUM
ALL THE BEST TIGERBOY*********************************************************ABout HGPig, yer I hated him, i thought he was a goose, but fuck people, he is endured the same tornment me are going through. My other ALIAS was Brad ok, and i shot HGPig i fla
es. I was such a prick, and i know i was trying to sound way cool and tell him off. But after thinking about it, why am I pissing of a bloke who had the same problem as me. We should be bonding together. He is like a fellow friend. I know he has wierd an
wonderful ideas, but every man to themselves. I'm not HGPig, and I'm not one of his great followers, but I've realised we have to stick together. If we want to bitch, lets bitch to NASA, fuck we can fly to the moon, yet we cant cure acne or the fucking c
mmon cold. We can make mobile phones as small as matchboxes, make cars that go inexcess of 200 km an hour yet we cant cure cancer. Medicine is fucked
Nadia - 11/30/99 00:01:22
Gender: femme
Age: 27
Comments:
I wanted to check in again with all of the women who currently use or have used Accutane- Have you noticed any effect on your cycle? Rachelle- my triglycerides and cholesterol are high, if they reach a certain point they do make you stop taking the medica
ion. Something that I didn't know until recently is that Accutane automatically raises these levels ( I had thought that they were raised due to damage) I'm was put on a low fat diet but didn't do so good over Thanksgiving. I hope that your levels and Bro
ks go back to normal so that we can finish this course of treatment. Please post what happens to you with this. Nadia
Amae - 11/29/99 23:55:59
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
TO RENE-- mine still sounds a bit overpriced. Is it just because I have to get 90 capsules of 20mg for ONE MONTH? This was going to be $612.50 without the co-pay for ONE MONTH, so you can see how outrageous FIVE MONTHS would be. Thanks for responding.
~Amae
To Nicole from Nadia - 11/29/99 23:50:30
Comments:
I've been on Ortho Tricyclen for about 5 months now and there hasn't been any improvement. I suppose that it depends on what causes your acne, if there is a hormonal imbalance the pill may help. Keep Trying. Nadia
sophie - 11/29/99 23:46:13
Gender: female
Age: 30
Comments:
hi is there anyone out there that has had bad side effects from taking roaccutaine.
sophie - 11/29/99 23:44:36
Gender: female
Age: 30
Comments:
hi is there anyone out there who has experienced bad side effects from taking roaccutaine.
Pam - 11/29/99 23:40:53
Comments:
Hey AUGUST...just wondering how you were doing?
Amae - 11/29/99 23:36:43
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
TO SPUNKY---let it go, okay? There is no need to doubt someone's death. Pig was even trying to be nice to you in that last post. His "MY" character was a metaphor, but you would actually have to read his posts to understand that. Oh and, settle down w
th this, "I'll visit any girl in the Southeast between 16 and 25!" Do you really think we want you knocking at our doors? No, this is a forum on the internet, hence privacy, hence the fact that Pig never leaves an e-mail. Relax, okay. By the way...it'
~Amae
On 60 Minutes Last Night - 11/29/99 23:23:46
Comments:
The "60 Minutes" CBS Program says not to leave your name and e-mail address because of data collectors.
Brooks - 11/29/99 23:19:00
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
I'm affraid my blood test will be abnormal. If so I'll have to go off Accutane. Has anyone heard anything about Natural products for acne??? I;'m going for a blood test on Monday (6th)
Rene - 11/29/99 22:57:38
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
WOW...You take one little Thanksgiving vacation and you have an hours worth of reading... TO SPLINTER: I too was worried about having children after taking accutane. Everything I have read/researched is to use two forms of birth control until the Accutan
is completely out of your body...30 days after taking your last pill...So 30 days...I also give blood at the Red Cross and they tell me to wait the 30 days before giving blood. TO AMEA: Your $ sounds right. I pay $276.00 for 30 pills/40 MG each. I ha
e HMO and they would not pay for the Accutane so I pay out of pocket this will result in $1380.00 for 5 months. But I was at a point in my life that I would of been willing to take out a loan in order to pay for medication to clear up my face. TO MARIE:
Hang in there...five months and you will see a huge improvement in your complexion. TO LORI & TIGERBOY: My derm says drink in moderation. He suggests no more than 2 drinks on occassion. TO MIA: A lot of people talk about the big breakouts some people
o/don't. I have read/heard that some people breakout first 30 days and then again around the fourth month. To me it just means my face is cleaning itself when I was breaking out between the 30-60 day period....15wk - 98 days so far and had my menstral a
d not one pimple!! Funny side affects I wanted to mention...My eyes are not dry...they are always watering, my eyebrows sweat (HOW FUNNY IS THAT!!) My joints ache occasionally. Rashes on back of hands, dry lips, dry body...TO SHAWN: Always talk about you
child...it keeps you sane...My daughter use to ask me why my face was always bleeding?? She is 7 yrs old. Now she says "Mommy you are sooo pretty". Hang in there everyone!! Rene
- 11/29/99 22:51:31
Comments:
O.k. Spunky, let me get this straight, are you tring to say that you don't believe anything that the Pig says and that you think he is full of crap? I wanted to check because I wasn't sure, your messages are so vague. Are you also trying to say that I sho
ld look both ways before crossing the street and that talking to strangers is a bad idea? Your maturity is an example to us all
spunky - 11/29/99 22:41:15
My Email:spunky695@yahoo.com
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
21:23:28. I guess that was user 667. Well, that's EXACTLY how I feel. Right on man. I don't want people to buy into this garbage. He is OBVIOUSLY a total phony. You guys think that he is so great but he's not. Hell, half of these posts that praise h
m are probably his anyway. And someone died?? I doubt it. HGPig is such a fake. when will you guys ever see that??? Don't you remember when he sent cookoo as that "MY" character. And then me and silena got on his ass about the experiment because we
oth know a lot about nutrition and then he shut up about that. He is obviously friendless and craves the attention. Don't pay attention to ppl who don't post their email, it's prbably just him
paul - 11/29/99 22:32:24
My Email:paulholliday@hotmail.com
Comments:
anyone here have MSN messenger ?????
if sooo my address is paulholliday@hotmail.com
cheers !
paul - 11/29/99 21:57:29
My URL:http://www.oocities.org/roaccutane999
My Email:paul@holliday999.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: male
Age: 18
Comments:
I have created a web site, with chat, come and chat to other roaccutane users, am kinda still putting it together, but its getting there, am working on it alot ........
tell me what you think
thanks
DOES anyone here know anything to help acne after using roaccutane, as I have a few, not many, just a few :(
THANKS !
paul
Steve - 11/29/99 21:54:12
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
I just forget to put all of the header stuff in. Anyway the goons in this forum are liable to alias my name and start making vulgar posts.
to more nonesense from julia - 11/29/99 21:48:21
Gender: female
Age: 17
Comments:
kudos to you for berating the user667, but are you anyone, you left no name or gender or age. youre not hgpig are you?
More Nonsense - 11/29/99 21:44:56
Comments:
This is a forum for discussion between people who are sharing similar experiences. If you want to speak with a doctor then I suggest that you make an appointment with one and leave this forum. It is absurd of you to insist that anyone who makes a suggesti
n within this forum be an accredited physician. More to the point, no one here cares whether you think that we should believe some one and not believe some one else. We are all grown up here and can make our own decisions. What is most disturbing, though,
is how vehemently you disapprove of the words of one individual and the chance that one of us might listen to him. I, myself don't believe much of anything that is presented without supporting evidence but I find it amusing that one individual could make
t his lifelong obsession to dispute and slander another individual's claims. You need to step back and allow some one you know to read what you have posted over the last couple of weeks. I think that they would be very embarrassed for you.
- 11/29/99 21:23:28
Comments:
MAYBE WERE NEGATIVE BECAUSE WERE PISSED THAT PEOPLE ARE BELIEVING IN THINGS THAT ARENT TRUE, WE ALL NEED CURES FOR ACNE, REAL ONES FROM REAL PEOPLE, PREFERRABLY DOCTORS NOT RANDOM IDIOTS WHO CUT AND PASTE
- 11/29/99 21:22:14
Comments:
READ THIS AND REMEMBER HOW VAUGE IT IS, DID ANYONE REALLY DIE, OR IS THIS ALL IN A NON LITERAL SENSE? ITS THE EASY WAY OUT, DONT BE FOOLED.
FAREWELL and Best to you. - 11/28/99 22:27:28
Comments:
Even cynical humor cannot stop this setting agony. My friend is dead. Nothing compares to
death and separation, it's setting in. Only a wanderer now, this world has lost it's light.
Goodnight and goodbye Amae, and farewell to all here, to everyone, Spunky Brook, Pam, GW,
Silena, Shawn, Nadia, Ray, Bob, Morty, Richard, Rene, Sonia,......be the keepers. Can I truly
laugh again. My friend died. Farewell, best to all, and goodbye. HGPig
Idiot infestation - 11/29/99 21:18:34
Comments:
I have an idea. Why don't the individuals named "spunky" and "user667@hotmail.com" start their own forum. They can take all of the garbage away from here and finally allow the rest of us to discuss the topic which originally brought us to this forum. Wh
t do you say guys? We all could use a rest from your negativity and obsessiveness.
AND - 11/29/99 21:04:12
My Email:user667@hotmail.com
Comments:
DID HGPIG LEAVE US EMAIL ADDRESSES OR A NAME OR AN AGE??? DOES ANYONE THINK THATS FISHY? AT LEAST IM NOT TRYING TO PASS MYSELF OFF AS KNOWING SOMETHING OR ANYTHING WITHOUT BACKING MY ASS UP
- 11/29/99 21:00:01
My Email:user667@hotmail.com
Comments:
first of all, i didnt post that, spunky did, and both of us do identify ourselves, i have, email me asshole if youve got a problem!!!
An example of frustrated dribble...... - 11/29/99 20:54:12
Comments:
hey idiot! I have a question ok??? why the hell do you go to doctors???? simple, they are specialists in their field. Why do you go to your derm??? same reason
huh??? so now here's the real question. why do you listen to an IDIOT that THINKS he is ome kind of doctor when he could be your little 12 year old brother
cutting and pasting from the internet. Hell, I could be HGPig and this might just be a big joke. I might be GW too. NO ONE KNOWS. that's why he has to prove it.
I have proven who I a with the help I've given (remember goat soap.. tens of people that posted on here how much it helped... remember????) for you that's only
been here two weeks then why don't you go back and look ok?? I have contributed TONS more than mr. piggy has. f anyone wants to prove me wrong go for it.
So, to the moron that's been here for two weeks put your foot where your mouth is. Also, anyone here want to be proved wrong??? about having no life and all this
shit ya'll think about me??? well, I have a ch llenge ok??? ANY GIRL BETWEEN 16 AND 25 IN THE SOUTHEAST I WILL PERSONALY PAY A VISIT TO
SO I CAN STOP ALL THE BS RUMORS ABOUT ME OK????? No pictures, no scanned BS(that can all be someone else) but me, in person. I dare any one of
ya. let's see if HG ig ever says anything like that to prove himself. please!!! USE YOUR HEAD. This person could be ABSOLUTELY ANYONE. that's why you
need proof. He has no email, no name, no background. doesn't that scare anyone??? So to he person that asked why ou need proof of who he is.. well, there's my
answer. don't trust someone on the net who doesn't identify them selves.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I hope that those who are new to this si
e do not take the above rant as a general representation of the intelligence of those who are veterans. I know it must be tempting though.
THE BIG LIAR - 11/29/99 20:53:28
My Email:user667@hotmail.com
Comments:
DID YOU READ THAT CRAP? OUT OF NOWHERE, HGPIG TOOK AN EASY OUT BECAUSE HE KNEW PEOPLE WOULD FEEL SORRY FOR HIM AND NOT QUESTION HIS LEAVING, EVEN IF HE IS MAKING IT UP AS USUAL. that is my real email up there, feel free to email me, anyone. spunky, don
leave, youre the one good person on this dumb thing.
- 11/29/99 20:51:51
Comments:
An example of frustrated dribble........
hey idiot! I have a question ok??? why the hell do you go to doctors???? simple, they are specialists in their field. Why do you go to your derm??? same reason
huh??? so now here's the real question. why do you listen to an IDIOT that THINKS he is some kind of doctor when he could be your little 12 year old brother
cutting and pasting from the internet. Hell, I could be HGPig and this might just be a big joke. I might be GW too. NO ONE KNOWS. that's why he has to prove it.
I have proven who I am with the help I've given (remember goat soap.. tens of people that posted on here how much it helped... remember????) for you that's only
been here two weeks then why don't you go back and look ok?? I have contributed TONS more than mr. piggy has. If anyone wants to prove me wrong go for it.
So, to the moron that's been here for two weeks put your foot where your mouth is. Also, anyone here want to be proved wrong??? about having no life and all this
shit ya'll think about me??? well, I have a challenge ok??? ANY GIRL BETWEEN 16 AND 25 IN THE SOUTHEAST I WILL PERSONALY PAY A VISIT
TO SO I CAN STOP ALL THE BS RUMORS ABOUT ME OK????? No pictures, no scanned BS(that can all be someone else) but me, in person. I dare any
one of ya. let's see if HGPig ever says anything like that to prove himself. please!!! USE YOUR HEAD. This person could be ABSOLUTELY ANYONE. that's
why you need proof. He has no email, no name, no background. doesn't that scare anyone??? So to he person that asked why you need proof of who he is.. well,
there's my answer. don't trust someone on the net who doesn't identify them selves.
I hope that those who are new to this site do not take the above rant as a general representation of the intelligence of those who are veterans. I know it must be tempting though.
spunky - 11/29/99 19:20:30
Comments:
hey idiot! I have a question ok??? why the hell do you go to doctors???? simple, they are specialists in their field. Why do you go to your derm??? same reason huh??? so now here's the real question. why do you listen to an IDIOT that THINKS he is
ome kind of doctor when he could be your little 12 year old brother cutting and pasting from the internet. Hell, I could be HGPig and this might just be a big joke. I might be GW too. NO ONE KNOWS. that's why he has to prove it. I have proven who I a
with the help I've given (remember goat soap.. tens of people that posted on here how much it helped... remember????) for you that's only been here two weeks then why don't you go back and look ok?? I have contributed TONS more than mr. piggy has.
f anyone wants to prove me wrong go for it. So, to the moron that's been here for two weeks put your foot where your mouth is. Also, anyone here want to be proved wrong??? about having no life and all this shit ya'll think about me??? well, I have a ch
llenge ok??? ANY GIRL BETWEEN 16 AND 25 IN THE SOUTHEAST I WILL PERSONALY PAY A VISIT TO SO I CAN STOP ALL THE BS RUMORS ABOUT ME OK????? No pictures, no scanned BS(that can all be someone else) but me, in person. I dare any one of ya. let's see if HG
ig ever says anything like that to prove himself. please!!! USE YOUR HEAD. This person could be ABSOLUTELY ANYONE. that's why you need proof. He has no email, no name, no background. doesn't that scare anyone??? So to he person that asked why
ou need proof of who he is.. well, there's my answer. don't trust someone on the net who doesn't identify them selves.
sue - 11/29/99 18:10:04
My Email:lasergirl@hotmail.com
Age: 37
Comments:
I have been using alpha hydroxy creams, such as Neo Strata and Reversa. They were both recommended at my local cosmetic counter. Both seem to make my acne worse. Any suggestions?
Brooks - 11/29/99 17:30:15
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18 Years old
Comments:
TO NADIA
PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
I'm going to a blood test on December 6th. It was last year when I tried Accutane and they took me off because of my abnormal results so I tried again and we will see the results after the 6th. The doctor told me that if I have an abnormal results that it
might be okay the second time! Please please please please please please please please please please please please e-mail me okay?
cheeeriogirl@hotmail.com
Wacked-Out Crazy Person - 11/29/99 16:50:03
Comments:
Hey idiot, HGpig doesn't have to prove himself right to you or anyone else. In the two weeks that I have been reading the posts here on this sight I have had to put up with so much of your superfluous, meanspirited garbage. Why don't you mind your own b
siness and stop obsessing over the words of another person. If you had your own life this would be easy for you to accomplish.
spunky - 11/29/99 16:35:19
Comments:
I do have one more thing to say... I know that most of you aren't going to like this but here goes. I still think that HGPig is a complete phony. I'm sorry, but just look back at all his old posts, there is so much proof that it is all BS. If he wasn'
phony don't you think that he would try and prove it?? I mean, if he's for real then I have many, many apologies but until he proves me wrong I know I'm right. So HGPig, if u want to win the war, the stage is yours.
spunky - 11/29/99 16:31:09
My Email:spunky695@yahoo.com
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
To the person who posts here and never puts their name here PLEASE identify yourself ok?? you were a real jerk to shawn. You should be happy for her that she loves her kid and not be so critical. As for me, I guess I will eventually leave if HGPig left
because I haven't had a spot in almost 2 weeks(it's about time). The redness is fading faster than normal actually and things are good. And HGPig, if someone your close to died(I didn't get that from his posts) then I'm really sorry. I hope everything
orks out for you ok?? I think everyone on here would agree that we are both messed up people... just in very different aspects. Maybe it's good that you and I leave though, we obviously disagree on many things and I know that I brought most of that on
and I'm sorry for that. However, I still believe that the "experiemnt" and quite a few other things were very fishy and so do many other people.In many ways you will be missed... as know I will too(although I doubt as much as they are gonna miss you).
So to everybody, cheer up ok??? Let's get this place the way it used to be. A lot of people here need to apologize and you know who you are. Let's start fresh ok??? thanks and take care.
Anita - 11/29/99 12:58:13
My Email:anita.worton@modisintl.com
Gender: female
Age: 27
Comments:
Nicole, you were asking about Dianette...I was on this for 6 months and had no impact at all on my Acne. Didn't really get any side affects either but this was when my acne was at its absolute worst so any depression I put down to that anyway!! A friend
of mine was on it for some time and it did improve her skin considerably although she did feel very low on it and was recommended not to stay on it any longer than 18 months.
Mario - 11/29/99 11:19:23
My Email:mariosuper99.hotmail.com
Gender: Uomo
Age: 270
Comments:
G'day all,
I was on 20mg daily, lasted for 24 days before I thought, "stuff this I'm stopping." I was getting what I thought was way too dry. Waited 5 days before I could speak to my derm. He suggested one every 2 days, effectively 10mg daily. Tried that for 10 days
and you guessed it, up they come again those little (insert expletive). So I went back on 20mg/day. Coincidence? I think not?
To TO SHAWN - 11/29/99 09:35:49
Comments:
I'm sure she's just echoing her thoughts.
It helps to write those things down
Now....where's the closest dunny in this joint.
I gotta have a crap.
nicola arandle - 11/29/99 09:10:48
My Email:arandle@vossnet.co.uk
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
Does anyone have any experience on the use of the pill dianette for treatment of acne. Is it safe. Do other contraceptive pills e.g. Ortho tri-cyclen work just as well?
Katie - 11/29/99 05:43:05
My Email:kategray@yahoo.com
Gender: female
Age: 28
Comments:
TO HGPig
The pain of losing someone you love is so deep that only you in time will be able to heal it but friends and family are there to talk to and please use it. The more you talk out load all the thoughts that are going around in your head the easier it becom
s. My brother only 21 took his life about 8 months ago and I understand HGPig the pain can just seem so huge it takes over your body and mind but it does get less. This is from someone who nearly took her own life (which I know seems strange as that was
why I was hurting) but the pain felt so bad I wanted it to end. I got through it with my friends and familys help. I truly know how you are feeling HGPig, just take day by day, my thoughts are with you.
TO SHAWN - 11/29/99 05:06:22
Comments:
WE got it- you have a daughter and you are a good mommy--no need to tell us in every post.
jamie - 11/29/99 05:04:24
Comments:
oh and HGPig- I feel your pain too. a friend of mine passed away and I NEVER thought ANYTHING would get me through it. Guess what? My friends and family were the ONLY thing that got me through it. Lean on those around you who love you and care for you
God bless your friend.
- 11/29/99 05:01:57
Gender: Feemale
Age: 35
Comments:
Hello to poster 11/28/99 23:01:37, I do not know anything about the Needymeds.com I am just re-posting the web site that a nice person posted earlier. It sounds like it could be promising to those in need. I did go to the web site and looked for about
2 seconds and in that 2 seconds I did see something that it looked like you could click on to find out about how they can fund such things. You might check out the entire web site. Good luck. And I give the credit to the person who originally posted it
on this web site.
jamie - 11/29/99 05:00:59
Comments:
TO AUGUST- I know how it feels and how disheartening it is. But listen to me-- your skin does not determine your self worth. Special people can see past all that and look inside to the real you. acne is horrid and those that don't have it don't unders
and, but those of us who do have it feel your pain and see your beauty. I hope you find something that works and regain your confidence.
Shawn - 11/29/99 05:00:52
My Email:googaboo@uswest.net
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
WEEK 5 of Accutane treatment -- To BROOKS -- Hey, my knees have been cracking a little too, when I do squats during my workouts. I use wraps (always have though to protect my knees) but I too have noticed that. SILENA, my knees used to crack every now a
d then, but lately they seem to be cracking more frequently. The wraps do help though, and I don't think I would want to stop as it keeps me sane knowing that at least I'm in control of my body if not my skin......but anyway. HG PIG is gone? What's up
ith that? This site is turning into one huge soap opera if you ask me. To many sagas going on. But as far as my results are coming along, noticed a few dry patches around my lips and nose over the past few days. That's it. Coming up to my monthly men
es again -- we'll see what happens with breakouts. I can tell it's about 2 weeks away because I get a little water retained. So........I'm keeping a careful eye. Well night all, have to be mommy and put my child to bed.
Amae - 11/29/99 04:53:56
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
***PIG*** Don't leave! Maybe we can all help you work through this. I can't say I know how you feel, but I can tell you that it will get better in time. Keep your head up, Pig. ~Amae
Pam - 11/29/99 04:05:11
Comments:
HI AUGUST...like you I never had really serious acne in my early-mid teens...it happened for me around 18-20 too...I really understand how devastating it can be...and I urge you to see a dermatologist ASAP and find out if Roaccutane is an option for you..
sometimes derms don't prescribe it right away...they try less potent options first...BUT PLEASE DON'T HURT YOURSELF...and stay in touch eh? There's so many people here who really do understand how you're feeling...
Rob - 11/29/99 03:37:10
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com.au
Gender: 24
Age: male
Comments:
TO AUGUST: I know life can really seem to suck at times. Try to think positive, which I know can be hard. I get really depressed about my ance, but but I have learned to take it as a challenge not to let it get me down, and thats the hardest thing to do !
Since I have been on Roaccutane my skin has gotten better, but I still want it to be totaly clear, but I can at leat be assured I am doing somthing about. I wish you all the best.
ROB.
GW - 11/29/99 03:14:47
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Dude (August), I know how you feel. I had pretty good skin and loved life up until about March this year when I got an attack of severe acne. Just don't do anything drastic mate. Get on roaccutane asap if you are not already. Always remember that ther
are plenty of people worse off than you who would kill to be in your position. Like HGPIG once said, if you don't believe me go to the local hospital and take a walk down the cancer ward or something. It will get better but you just need to have faith.
Keep your head up mate.......
Rachelle - 11/29/99 03:13:55
Comments:
I have tried ProActive Solution. I was on and off of it, for about three years. At first when my acne was mild, it helped, but as my skin got worse, it didn't seem to work anymore.....I was also wondering if there is anyone else who is on Accutane, and
as high triglycerides. I do, and am on a strict diet to lower them. I also would like to know, how bad is it to drink (like three screwdrivers) about twice a month?......Also I have been using Nutraderm Moisturizer, and really works good! Thanks.
august - 11/29/99 02:16:27
Gender: male
Age: 20
Comments:
i've been feeling extremely depressed for the past
month, like i want to kill myself. i've always
had flawless skin until i turned 18, then i
started breaking out, out of nowhere. i'm a
goodlooking guy with a great heart, but this cruel
acne covers the real me. i just wanted someone to
hear my torment. i have no one else to share this
GW - 11/29/99 01:41:03
Comments:
"..............and it is classified as "K" type - "Knob Jockey........."
GW - 11/29/99 01:38:10
Comments:
I hear your doctor was also impressed by your triglecerides. In fact, when the blood came out it had a message running through it : "This blood belongs to a pin-dick rodent.............."
GW - 11/29/99 01:35:31
Comments:
If "hedges wanker" can't cop a bit of his own medicine then that's really bad. Lock me up for being co cruel to the poor baby boy........
GW - 11/29/99 01:32:23
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
*****HGPIG*******Don't leave Pal, your a valuable addition to this site.
spunky - 11/29/99 00:40:19
Comments:
my triglecerides were 49. I was impressed... holy crap huh???
Pam - 11/29/99 00:28:39
Comments:
HG...I will certainly miss your posts...best to you too...
To HG Pig - 11/29/99 00:20:05
Comments:
Please don't leave. Say more.
to Brooks - 11/29/99 00:11:37
Comments:
I had an abnormal blood test and am due to be retested. My doc has still kept me on the dos that I was on before. My cholesterol went up 40 ponts from my before meds levels and my triglycerides were elevated as well. Hopefully when I am retested they will
have gone down. Did you get an abnormal result? Nadia
- 11/28/99 23:01:37
Comments:
To the FEMALE 35 who mentioned NEEDyMEDS.COM could you answer a question for me? What i want to know is what's the catch? I mean, medicine..accutane for free? There has to be some strings attached. I am personally struggling financially and have no insura
ce. I was planning on calling the toll free number tomorrow. Is it definite that they will give me accutane for free? It just sounds too good to be true. ~jill
FAREWELL and Best to you. - 11/28/99 22:27:28
Comments:
Even cynical humor cannot stop this setting agony. My friend is dead. Nothing compares to death and separation, it's setting in. Only a wanderer now, this world has lost it's light. Goodnight and goodbye Amae, and farewell to all here, to everyone, Spunky
Brook, Pam, GW, Silena, Shawn, Nadia, Ray, Bob, Morty, Richard, Rene, Sonia,......be the keepers. Can I truly laugh again. My friend died. Farewell, best to all, and goodbye. HGPig
Yangas - 11/28/99 22:08:59
My Email:bulls_43@hotmail.com
Gender: 17
Comments:
Hey all i am current;y on week 12 of roac at 40mg twice a day and although my big cysts have gone well most of them i was left with scars which were from the intial break out at week 6 or 7 , i thought these will never go away but through out this week th
y have slighty gotten better, well if anyone has any suggestions for healing scaars plz EMAIL ME!! i look forwrd to anyones email cya god bless
Email bulls_43@hotmail.com
Yangas - 11/28/99 22:06:35
My Email:bulls_43@hotmail.com
Gender: 17
Comments:
Hey all i am current;y on week 12 of roac at 40mg twice a day and although my big cysts have gone well most of them i was left with scars which were from the intial break out at week 6 or 7 , i thought these will never go away but through out this week th
y have slighty gotten better, well if anyone has any suggestions for healing scaars plz EMAIL ME!! i look forwrd to anyones email
cya god bless
Brooks - 11/28/99 21:33:58
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Girl
Age: 18
Comments:
2nd Week- I just wanted to know if anyone has had an abnormal blood test??? Please e-mail me!! Are anyone's joints making cracking sounds?? Please e-mail me!!
To John - 11/28/99 20:32:48
Comments:
Zinc doesn't work to get rid of acne, it helps me with the pain and duration, since I use it topically I don't think that the dosage is a concern, try it as often as you like. Good luck- Nadia
Pam - 11/28/99 20:22:59
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
RE: ALCOHOL...(if you've read this stuff from me before...just scroll past!) First of all...I don't drink any alcohol whilst undergoing treatment with Roaccutane...and I would strongly advise others to completely abstain. Ro/Accutane is potentially hepato
ic...which is one of the reasons why we have regular Liver Function Tests (LFT) during treatment...Alcohol is also potentially hepatoxic...and combining these two substances places an even greater burden on the liver...making you a prime candidate for liv
r damage...the risk is further multiplied if you are taking other potentially hepatoxic substances...(some anti-depressants...some cholesterol lowering medications...even the humble paracetamol...and probably a whole host of other substances I'm unaware o
)...
paul - 11/28/99 19:44:13
My URL:http://beseen3.looksmart.com/chat/rooms/l/13067/
My Email:paul@holliday999.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: male
Age: 18
Comments:
just thought I would be in this chat thing for about 2 hours, anyone want to chat ?
- 11/28/99 19:31:52
My URL:http://www.needymeds.com
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Comments:
Hello, To answer a couple of questions below. One was asking about ways for people who cannot afford meds. Someone posted below and I wanted to give them the credit but to scroll through all the garbage posts was just too time consuming as I have many o
her things I want to do today, Try needymeds.com And other alternatives to Accutane may be Chinese Herb granules that I am taking and have been for 1 year and almost 1 month. I am having great success with them, however, I am not selling them and do
not wish to be the sole seller/promiser of these because it seems as if I am the only one who can provide testimonials. They are working wonderfully for me. I just went for it and I think anyone else has the same opportunity. I will provide info as how
much I have spent, that I have been taking it for a year and a month and that to clear completely I may have to take for a total of two years. My cystic acne has disappeared. It costs me 600.00 a year, etc. And I know that most people may not even co
sider it because one plus years can seem like a long time, however, When Accutane did not work as well as all the antibiotics. The only testimonial I had was The Herbalist (who has a Doctorate in Chinese Medicine) who mixes my herbs said she cured her ow
acne at age 32 and she showed me a before picture. I have been so pleased with my improvements. I have posted on this forum several times in the last year regarding my progress and I have not had anyone post that they have tried these Chinese Herb Gran
les and that they did not work. Oh yes and in 1991 my first course of Accutane worked wonderfully. Then another course in 1998 did not work at all.
- 11/28/99 18:52:39
Comments:
Well GW and Spunky are now on the same idiot level and now it is just who wins with the most experience.
- 11/28/99 18:44:35
Gender: girrl
Age: 35
Comments:
Anton, I have had cystic nodular acne and Proactive Solution did not get rid of my cystic acne. I was very faithful in using it as directed and for at least 4 months. (Nodule: a small knot or rounded lump.) Nodular acne to me is hard lumps under the sk
n that you cannot break open and they can be painful. Maybe not all are painful but they can be. I'm sure Proactive may help skin in general but acne is coming from the inside. And this comment is from experience. Watch any infomercial on TV and if yo
have the slightest interest in it they will probably sell it to you. It is all a sell. And they prey on people with acne because they know we all have hope and we just know something will cure it. I have also tried Serious Skin Care Acne line from the
shopping channel. I used that faithfully for probably a year and again my hopes were shattered and all for 60.00 dollars a month. But if you don't try it you will not be able to boast such as I am doing.
John - 11/28/99 18:43:04
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
Does zinc work? How much and what form?
mia - 11/28/99 12:59:45
Age: 19
Comments:
Id be really really grateful if someone would give me an answer or their experiences; When I first started the treatment in the first couple of weeks my skin cleared up a lot. Im now on week seven and its looking pretty messy again. Is this the 'norm'?
as it happened to others?
paul - 11/28/99 10:45:01
My URL:http://beseen3.looksmart.com/chat/rooms/l/13067/
My Email:paul@holliday999.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: male
Age: 18
Comments:
just thought I would say that I have set up a chat room for people ! ! ! , would love to actually speak to you !
paul
katie - 11/28/99 08:47:47
My Email:kategray@yahoo.com
Gender: female
Age: 28
Comments:
Thank you for your help Nadia. I will try the Zinc Picolinate. Thanks
caelly - 11/28/99 08:06:25
My Email:caelly@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 23
Comments:
RINI and ROB: Thanks for the kind posts. :) I was hoping I wasn't the only one who suffered from that kind of thing. I'm thinking that for now, I'll try using tetracycline more regularly--my derm gave me a prescription several months ago and told me to
call if I needed more. I haven't been taking it much because he advised me to try to take it as little as possible. However, it seems reasonable that if there are drugs available to help with acne, I should take advantage of them. While I've been on 2
ourses of Accutane already, I feel pretty reluctant to take a 3rd course since I know it's a powerful drug, and my skin, though it can look not so perfect some days, is much much better than before I took Accutane.
What's anyone else's experience (results, side effects, or whatever) with being on more than one course fo Accutane? Thanks and best wishes to all. :)
To Katie - 11/28/99 08:06:16
Comments:
I hope that the ceph. helps you, it didn't me, nor did the tetracyclines, minocin, erythro, topical antibiotics, etc, etc. Unfortuneatly most of us have gone through those treatments and the lack of results have landed us in Accutane land. So far, Accutan
has yet to do a thing either (I'm about a month in). It has made my symptoms alot worse. But reading the posts of others that it has helped and others that it hasn't should encourage you as to the variety of experiences, there doesn't seem to be one ans
er. I hope that you and everyone else reading this site finds something that works. Something that might help the cysts- I have had mixed succes with this but it seems to ease the pain and the duration at least. Open a capsule of Zinc Picolinate and mix t
e contents with water to form a paste to apply to cyst, leave it on for a while (I try overnight although it usually flakes off). Also I've put cucumber slices on my cysts to ease the pain and help draw them out. Hope it helps, and you receive some comfor
- Nadia
Nadia - 11/28/99 07:50:30
Age: 27
Comments:
When I drank I got nosebleeds, I'm on 40 mg 2X daily. Nothing was ever mentioned to me as well although I didn't think it was a good idea because of the liver involvment. Also my blood results were abnormal when I went to have them tested. There is a post
ages ago that said something about the effect that alcohol had on raising triglycerides when on Accu. Good luck and cheers.
Anton - 11/28/99 07:24:56
Gender: male
Comments:
has anyone in here tried the acne solution called ProActiv Solution?? it looks like it really works and i would like to know if anyone in here has tried it or any comments/experiences would be very appreciated. and can someone tell me what Nodular acne is
? im not sure?
Lori - 11/28/99 06:58:05
My Email:laurie@thegrid.net
Gender: All Girl
Age: 31
Comments:
Hi - Just read Tigerboy's message regarding drinking alcohol during Accutane treatment. Uh-oh, if it's true, I'm in trouble. I have a habit of drinking wine at least every other night. I think I'll stop. My dermatologist NEVER said anything about drin
ing. Nor did the pamphlet say anything about it. Anymore info would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail me or post a message. Thanks to you all!
(Lori - 8 weeks into treatment, no good results yet! :()
Amae - 11/28/99 06:20:23
Age: 21
Comments:
Oh yeah- Day 5 and only slightly dry lips.
Tigerboy - 11/28/99 06:18:04
My Email:braddh@hotmail.com
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
Last night (Saturday Night...Australian time) I decided to go out cause my acne was very good, actually better than expected. It's only like Week 6 and my face is pretty much clear but the down side is that it tends to peel around the mouth and lips, whic
is a bit of a bummer cause I have to constantly put cream on it to stop it peeling. I drank a few bottles of Heinekein, its beer from Holland. It comes in a small bottle. I would say I drank 4 bottles the whole night. I got up this afternoon Aussie time
nd for some reason, why acne treatment was so much better than it was the night before. I was led to beileve that if your drank, it sort of stuffed your treatment. I know its only within 24 hours of me drinking, but I think its ok. Sort of SO FAR SO GOOD.
It's the first time I drank alcohol in like 7 weeks, so its not like I drink every weekend. I have decided to drink if possible every end of the month, maximum 4 little bottles of whatever.
I was told by my derm that I shouldnt drink, but he knows its hard for a young bloke to not drink for 6 months straight. I think I could of done it, but I would of got pissed bigtime after 6 months, so yer. He said a few drinks every so often NOT on a reg
lar basis wouldnt really consistute any major problems. He actually mentioned a few drinks every 2 months, but that means i can only drink 3 times in 6 months. I'm not a heavy drinker, I think I know when to stop, thats the reason. He said to me, when you
do drink, DRINK IN MODERATION
To all of you guys and gals out there, please give me feedback cause i need to know peoples reaction to drinking devil's water.
I know its hard, but when you go out its hard not getting into things without drinking
Its an age old problem I know but hay, I'm human
All the best
Tigerboy
Amae - 11/28/99 06:18:04
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
ALRIGHT PEOPLE--Settle down, I'm back. Hey PIG- I'm waiting for the grand finale of the trial!! EVERYONE ELSE- I'm American (WOO-HOO) and my Accutane would have been $612.50 for 1 month (20mg in the AM and 40mg in the PM). I read that someone else from
America said that 1 month should be around $300.00. Would I have been ripped off (if I didn't have a co-pay) or is it just my dosage?
Tigerboy - 11/28/99 06:17:42
My Email:braddh@hotmail.com
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
Last night (Saturday Night...Australian time) I decided to go out cause my acne was very good, actually better than expected. It's only like Week 6 and my face is pretty much clear but the down side is that it tends to peel around the mouth and lips, whic
is a bit of a bummer cause I have to constantly put cream on it to stop it peeling. I drank a few bottles of Heinekein, its beer from Holland. It comes in a small bottle. I would say I drank 4 bottles the whole night. I got up this afternoon Aussie time
nd for some reason, why acne treatment was so much better than it was the night before. I was led to beileve that if your drank, it sort of stuffed your treatment. I know its only within 24 hours of me drinking, but I think its ok. Sort of SO FAR SO GOOD.
It's the first time I drank alcohol in like 7 weeks, so its not like I drink every weekend. I have decided to drink if possible every end of the month, maximum 4 little bottles of whatever.
I was told by my derm that I shouldnt drink, but he knows its hard for a young bloke to not drink for 6 months straight. I think I could of done it, but I would of got pissed bigtime after 6 months, so yer. He said a few drinks every so often NOT on a reg
lar basis wouldnt really consistute any major problems. He actually mentioned a few drinks every 2 months, but that means i can only drink 3 times in 6 months. I'm not a heavy drinker, I think I know when to stop, thats the reason. He said to me, when you
do drink, DRINK IN MODERATION
To all of you guys and gals out there, please give me feedback cause i need to know peoples reaction to drinking devil's water.
I know its hard, but when you go out its hard not getting into things without drinking
Its an age old problem I know but hay, I'm human
All the best
Tigerboy
silena - 11/28/99 05:48:55
My Email:silena100@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
SHAWN: My knees and ankles have always popped, since as far back as I can remember. I don't know what would cause joints to suddenly start popping all the time. Do your knees hurt? Are you using the knee wraps for all your sets of quats? I suggest you li
hten up your squat load and stick with the heaviest weight that you can do comfortably without knee wraps. But I really don't know about that popping, though... I'm sorry...
Katie - 11/28/99 05:13:13
My Email:kategray@yahoo.com
Gender: female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hi everyone. I have been reading all your coments for a few days now and I love all the help and reading opions on the drugs etc. I haven't started roacuttane yet but I am thinking about it. I see a skin spec in a few weeks. I am just so so tired of
y skin. Never feeling good about myself. Just when my face is looking a little better by the afternoon I have more painful cysts poping up. I was hoping someone might be able to tell me if taking run of the mile drugs such as Cephalexin for a few weeks
will help? This is what my regular doctor perscribed for the cysts. Also with scares (red marks) what can be done about them? Do facial peels help? Thanks
- 11/28/99 05:11:04
Comments:
GW, Please stop abusing Spunky
Kyle Hoffman - 11/28/99 04:17:08
My Email:BirdieKid1@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 16
Comments:
I am on my fourth month on accutane. It has helped alot. One thing i want to say to anyone who reads this is that i feel your pain. I am 16 and have hug scars. But one thing to remember is that most people notice you acne, but either don't care or fee
sorry for you. Only conceited people will judge you by you face. One more important thing. There is one good thing about having acne. It lets you know who you REAL freinds are. REAL friends will not hate you for how you look. I suggest Accutane for
anyone with nodular acne should use Accutane. I am only 16, but some of the mysteries of freindships have been revealed to me over the past 3 years I have had it. Good luck all of you.
Kyle Hoffman - 11/28/99 04:16:48
My Email:BirdieKid1@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 16
Comments:
I am on my fourth month on accutane. It has helped alot. One thing i want to say to anyone who reads this is that i feel your pain. I am 16 and have hug scars. But one thing to remember is that most people notice you acne, but either don't care or fee
sorry for you. Only conceited people will judge you by you face. One more important thing. There is one good thing about having acne. It lets you know who you REAL freinds are. REAL friends will not hate you for how you look. I suggest Accutane for
anyone with nodular acne should use Accutane. I am only 16, but some of the mysteries of freindships have been revealed to me over the past 3 years I have had it. Good luck all of you.
GW reflecting on a BRAINWAVE - 11/28/99 02:56:10
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
What a brainwave reccomendation by the Spunky aka "hedges wanker" - take roaccutane! WOW, I bet no one here ever thought of doing that.............like the Pig said, you have made no specific advice for the preceding posts and yet you go on to beat up HG
IG. Spunky mate, braindead milky licker that you are, you have been slapping the salami for way too long. You really are a shitkicker. Stop being such a little cocky bastard and get back to what you do best and that is FLOGGING YOUR LOG you little idio
dickmuncher***************Leaving the building.......the Gee Dub.
Bob Topps - 11/28/99 02:46:48
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
Re: Sensitivity of skin w/ on Accutane. Ive got sensitive skin and so when i shave i used only Aveeno shave gel. I didn't need the oils in other kinds.
;I HAD to wear my glasses most of the time during treatment. This might have been due to the fact that my treatment STARTED in the WINTER time, when my contacts were already exposed to cold air..hey I know all you guys with glasses HATE to wear them in pu
lic becasue they make all of us look like nerds but its healthier becasue we are getting more oxygen to them..
:Ive recently had these break outs out of the blue and have come to the conlusion that the worst part about it is the damn red spot that is there forever.Now doubling up on minocyline, (100mg twice daily)and eliminating ALL dairy.
Good LUck!
Nadia - 11/27/99 23:01:41
Age: 27
Comments:
This bickering is ridiculous and counterproductive. This site is set up so that people don't have to reveal anything about themselves if they choose not to. Certainly in a forum for people with acne, an embarrasing enough disease as it is, this is the onl
chance that we have at anonymity, everyone that sees us knows our plight.Obviously no one is a doctor and certainly not advising others in that capacity, it is up to you the reader to discern what is truth and what is not. I have learned alot from readin
the experiences and advice that people post , and I hope to continue. Spunky, I hope that your harrassment does not lead to people not posting because they don't feel the need to give you their age, weight, and shoe size.
GW - 11/27/99 22:27:48
Gender: Happy returns to all
Comments:
Live Baby Live. Now that the day is over.....I gotta New Sensation.....In perfect moments......Impossible to refuse.......Sleep baby Sleep....Now that the night is over.....and the sun comes like a God.......Into our room.........All perfect light and pr
mises
GW - 11/27/99 22:23:04
Comments:
All veils and misty..........Streets of blue......Almond Looks...........That Chill Devine...........Some Silken Moment......Goes On Forever............And we're leaving broken hearts......behind
GW - 11/27/99 22:17:47
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Sonia and everyone else it is important to remember that SUN light is not bad for you. In fact, sun exposure (in moderation) is our body's source of vitamin D so don't be encouraging people to stay inside like hermits unitl they turn into white mutants.
Just make sure you don;t overdo it, especially while on isotretinoin. But over and above, get out in the sun and have fun, that's what its therefore, to provide life. (Disclaimer : The following information was brought to you by a dude from a country w
th the second highest rate of skin cancer in the world..................)
Shawn - 11/27/99 18:37:43
My Email:googaboo@uswest.net
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
WEEK 5 of Accutane treatment -- Well what a turkey day it was. I feel like I'm about to bust. Anyway, hope everyone's holiday was joyous. Let's see, I think that my dry lips are under control, no more dry eyes and no real dry skin. Could it be that I
eed a higher dose now? Or could it be my preventative measures are paying off? Well, let me know all you Accutane users out there -- thanks. Well, my forehead is very clear and smooth -- and some of the blemishes had surfaced therefore are healing with
the dreaded red spot left behind. But those even seem to be fading. But I have noticed that the ones that appear are the ones that start under the skin and kind of fester there. Then they reach the surface and leave a mark. You know this is the way I
ee it, the Accutane supposedly pushes everything to the surface right? Well, maybe because it causes the healing process to be delayed, maybe the actual healing of the blemish (meaning the sebum getting pushed to the surface) is delayed as well which is
hy it takes longer for these little f**kers to go away. That's just my thought. I know that the cheeks seem to be more prone to the more painful, bigger ones and the marks left thereafter. My forehead and chin have had some massive ones, and they are s
ooth and clear as a baby's bottom. But my cheeks still have some way to go. Make sense? Well, haven't had any nose bleeds, but my knees seem to be cracking alot more when I do squats -- SELINA, did that happen to you? I use wraps now, but it's not unb
arable. My husband says it's the lubrication in my joints now is dry, which makes sense, but I wont quit. I took this week off to get my thoughts together (my new job and all) and to decorate for X-mas! I love this time of year! Later -- Shawn
spunky - 11/27/99 18:19:39
Comments:
thanks amanda... maybe one day everyone will see. I hope so
Aimee - 11/27/99 16:59:06
My Email:aimee_69@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Comments:
Does anyone get sort of crusty dry spots on parts of your body that doesn't have acne? I have crusty patches on the top of my arms, and on my back... What gives?? Help!
MP - 11/27/99 16:04:48
Age: 16
Comments:
Respecting to the sun exposure, you can´t expose you face (or part where you have acne) or your hole body. Thanks for the answer
MP
Sonia - 11/27/99 15:15:05
My Email:me again
Gender: female
Age: 29....
Comments:
Hi, sorry to be going on again....I just didn't want anyone to think I was arrogant...even though in reality I am.....but still irrelevant!! Just wanted to say that the reason I offered skin care advise....is because I have tried almost EVERYTHING on the
arket and after spending major $$$ I decided to start studying ingredients and products......for example....I have seen numberous people refer to carmex for chpped lips.....I checked it out.....the first ingredient on the ingredient list is Menthol.....th
stuff that gives you that cool feeling.....which is also the most drying and irritating ingredient you could put on dry lips.....so you apply it and if feels great...however you have to keep applying because it is actualy making you lips dryer and dryer.
..see what I mean.....anyway, I've taking up enough space for one day......Good luck!!!
Sonia - 11/27/99 15:05:43
My Email:sneri@spint-canada.com
Gender: Female
Age: 29...yes really!!
Comments:
Hi, Howdy, Aloha, Ola and Good day!!!
Boy it's been ages folks!!! I see a lot of new people on the site now so I'll give you a brief run down.....was on Acc. for 5 months....stopped taking it in August and have been wonderfully clear and gorgeous (if I do say so myself) ever since!!! WOO WOO!
So, now onto business. I was checking out some of the questions lately....lets see if I remember them......Sun tanning and acne: Well, a tan gives the illusion of nice clear skin as it makes your skin colour uniform so it looks all even....HOWEVER!!!....t
nning causes your skin to react because it feels the need to defend itself as sunlight is bad for your skin....so even though it will dry up some oil and make the spots shrik away....it will go crazy procuding more oil and inflame the spots once you stop
he tanning....so you could really tan away without stopping but then instead of Pizza face, we'll all be Leather face.....I'm not sure which is the lesser of two evils....I could go into more detail here but this was a simple explanation in Lamen's terms.
So on to waxing!! For some I'm sure it could be ok....for me....NIGHTMARE!! I had my eyebrows waxed about 2 months into treatment.....let's just say, that I was putting Polysporin on them for a week afterwards and not only did the hair come out....so did
ost of the skin.....OUCH!!! needless to say.....never again!!! Cetafil: LOVE IT......but I love the new one for oily skin better!!! I actually have somewhat dry skin, but the Oily Skin Cetafil is not drying at all AND it takes off all makeup unlike the or
ginal!!! So onto the gossip!! What the heck is going on with all the battles out there?? I'm going to be a female chauvanist and assume this is a guy thing??? No offence boys....But it really has seemed like a pissing contest lately...don't ya think??? I'
sure no one wants my op.....but you're going to get it.....Spunky: you are a little disturbed buddy!! Maybe it's all the stuff going on in your life...maybe it's not...what ever it is....let it go....even if you think HGP is an idiot....it's ok...you're
ntitled to feel however you want to feel......that's the beauty of choice!!! Just don't rise to any provocations! To HGP: You have been quite supportive in the fact that you are very quick to respond to others questions....there is no denying that....just
check out the posts throughout the forum....BUT...sometimes, those posts which may or may not be package inserts are a little heavy....and I do consider myself to be fairly intelligent...I too studied nursing....But in all fairness to HGP....his "Experime
t" which I have to admit sounds interesting, however, I would never be disciplined enought to follow anything regimented ( I'm lazy), is really his business....He chose to share it with everyone and I for one think that's great....that's what this site is
all about right?? I seem to remember some of his earliest posts......If I remember correctly, I think the point to his telling us about this experiment was because if it did work.....it may be an alternative to taking accutane....am I right?? anyway....it
s been interesting reading everyone's reactions to these battles.....I have to agree that some have gotten really really crass!! No offence to GW but HOLY SHIT!!! Your posts have enlightened me on new words and phrases to use while I'm drive to work every
morning in rush hour!!! Those are some of the most colourful phrases I think even I have ever heard.....and to be honest....I swear like a trucker!!! Well enough of my ramblings!!! Good luck to everyone and feel free to email me if you have any questions
e: skin care products, care and anything else!!! Ciao all!!! Sonia
Amanda - 11/27/99 14:04:15
Comments:
I totally agre with spunky, hgpig is a big liar who never offers anything but what he feels like offering, how old are you hgpig, where do you live, male or female, how long have you had acne? some of us havent been here as long as you have and reposting
this will help us understand your type of acne and what youre doing, so if you want to posatively help tell me this stuff so i can know that your treatments will work for me, as a young female.
Anyone Have Alternatives - 11/27/99 11:15:15
Comments:
Does anyone, ANYONE, have ideas, suggestions, regarding alternatives when all conventional therapy (antibiotics etc.,) AND accutane do not work? I don't have that "give up" spirit in me. Thanks.
Any Comments... - 11/27/99 08:46:26
Comments:
Any suggestions to one who after over $600.00 in bone X-rays, did not get approved for accutane use.
Any Recommendations - 11/27/99 08:38:13
Comments:
Any recommendations, from personal experience as this web site says above, on individuals who must stop taking accutane due to decreased night vision?
Any suggestions.... - 11/27/99 08:14:38
Comments:
Any suggestions to those, to be mother's, who cannot take accutane? Any even attempts to give hope or even search for an answer???
Any hope for those - 11/27/99 08:08:50
Comments:
Any hope or answers to those who have no access to a health provider?? Not all of us have access to mommy and daddy's insurance plan, or can afford to play at the beach and party all night. Any hope to those that live the street? Do soup kitchens provi
e accutane?
Any hope for...... - 11/27/99 08:03:43
Comments:
Any hope, or at least searching for an answer, to those who because of blood chemistry cannot take accutane?????
Any Hope for..... - 11/27/99 08:02:06
Comments:
Any hope for Jill whose insurance is gone, or Richard for the reasons he stated earlier???? Man cannot live on Accutane alone.
No Recommendations???? - 11/27/99 07:59:57
Comments:
Any hope for those that have been through several accutane courses, but they're in relapse??????
No Recommendations????? - 11/27/99 07:57:04
Comments:
No recommendations for those, Morty, Rene, etc.,, that CANNOT take accutane????? Any hope at all????
spunky - 11/27/99 04:29:28
Comments:
hi. just wanted to say hello. I'll try to convince you guys that HGPig is worthless but I'd just be wasting my time. It's obvious. He never posts his name, email, address, age, nada. He's just a fat lier. Don't believe me?? go look at the person ca
led "my" in the archives. Also look at all of his old posts about the experiemnt... now look at them. they are totally different huh??? HGPig..... My.. whatever and whoever you are.. you aren't going to get away with this.. that's a promise from a
rian anthony. For those of you that believe him, I'm really, really sorry. I almost pity you. Good luck, hope everyone's skin gets better soon :) I recommend goat soap with a side of accutane at 40 mg :) bye-bye
M.P. - 11/27/99 02:29:56
Gender: Male
Age: 16
Comments:
Hi, respecting to the sun exposure, you can´t expose your face (or the part where you have acne) or you can´t expose your hole body. I´m asking this because I´ve been sunbathing with my face hided.
Thanks for the answer.
M.P:
To: Natascha Oliver - 11/27/99 02:14:40
Comments:
Natascha, I am curious to know what systemic medications you have had in the past, their strengths and durations. Best to you.
To Aaron: - 11/27/99 02:08:38
Comments:
I have seen positive effects begin as early as three days, especially with 40mgx2 per day. Best to you. HGPig.
Natascha Oliver - 11/27/99 01:34:27
My Email:micro@ilos.net
Gender: female
Age: 28
Comments:
I've been using Stievamycin which is a
combination of Tretinoin and Erythromycin. It is
very drying to my skin and therefore, becomes
incredibly itchy. I don't know if I should
continue using the medication since it doesn't
seem to have much improvement on my skin except
constant peeling. Stievamycin has 3 levels of
effectiveness (mild, regular and strong). The
strongest level seemed to clear up my skin for
awhile, but caused extreme drying. I ended up
with bouts of excruciating pain. It seems like a
constant battle and I feel too old to have such a
severe acne problem. If I find a successful
treatment I will get back to you so as to help
others. The only advise I can offer at this time
is to pray. God is the true healer and even
though right now I don't know why I have to go
through this I will continue to pray. I believe
God is able to heal, but it is in his time.
Aaron - 11/27/99 01:16:50
My Email:iago@nin64.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Comments:
I have just started by Roaccutane today finally, and I was just wondering how long it would be before I started noticing any differene? I know it will gradually go away, but just wondering how long before it does. Thanks
- 11/27/99 00:04:48
My URL:http://beseen3.looksmart.com/chat/rooms/l/13067/
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
I have set up a chat room for people !
don't know how good it will be
just a thought
bye !
Pam - 11/26/99 22:31:03
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
Posting using someone else's online nick-name is both deceitful and manipulative...and offers nothing in terms of a positive contribution to this site.
- 11/26/99 22:11:46
Comments:
HEY ASSHOLE I TOLD YOU I DID READ THE POST, I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CANT TELL ME THE EXACT DATE AND TIME OF YOUR FIRST POST, UNLESS YOUR 4TH DAY WAS REALLY YOUR FIRST. AND I FUCKING SAID I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANSWERING OTHER PEOPLES QUESTIONS, SO TH
T IS WHY IM NOT DOING IT, WHY DONT YOU LISTEN AND STOP TWISTING EVERYTHING DICK FACE.
Read the Last Post of the Experiment - 11/26/99 22:07:08
Comments:
It's there, just read the post this month. This was my experiment, not yours. Not to challenge you, but where are your positive suggestions for those asking for answers yesterday and today? I see nothing positive to move forward with from any of your post
today. Do you have any suggestions for Anita? For Marie? For Richard? For Jasmine? I can do alot better than forging someone else's handle. I see nothing from you yesterday or today in so far as positive advice to move forward with? Best to you anyway. B
t I know there is good in you, so I will be looking to cut-n-paste your positive attempts or suggestions to cure this disease (or any other for that matter) Best to you. HGPig
- 11/26/99 21:43:45
Comments:
WHAT FOR? TO DISPEL DOUBT ABOUT YOU AND PROVE YOU HAVE LEGITIMATE CLAIMS. YOU SEEM SHADY. I DONT HAVE ANYTING TO PROVE BECAUSE IM NOT CLAIMING TO HELP ANYONE OR HAVE ANSWERS.
ok hgpig - 11/26/99 21:42:40
Comments:
searching for answers and solutions, then tell me when your REAL first post was because that is an answer. you just turn about my questions to other topics. if you really are searching for answers than respect my search.
ok hgpig - 11/26/99 21:42:39
Comments:
searching for answers and solutions, then tell me when your REAL first post was because that is an answer. you just turn about my questions to other topics. if you really are searching for answers than respect my search.
- 11/26/99 21:42:13
Comments:
- 11/26/99 21:40:21, is another forge.
What for? - 11/26/99 21:40:42
Comments:
What for? I'm HGPig handle, not you. But thank you for your cut-n-paste below. I'm searching for answers and solutions, I see none from you. Best to you HGPig.
HGPig - 11/26/99 21:40:21
Comments:
I have not posted today, I do not know what is going on.
- 11/26/99 21:38:55
Comments:
piggy piggy, where are you?
you - 11/26/99 21:38:30
Comments:
might as well say i am forging myself, if im not you, i dont exist.
- 11/26/99 21:37:39
Comments:
hgpig are you on? do you have aol, a screename? my mails user667@hotmail.com
- 11/26/99 21:37:33
Comments:
11/26/99 21:28:00, this post forged. Best to you.
reveal my handle??? - 11/26/99 21:36:38
Comments:
explain what that means, loser, hey hgpig i looked in the archives extensively and for a long long time and as your "first post" i found a day four update, strange...can you find something to prove me wrong?
HGPig - 10/24/99 04:40:17
Comments:
Day #4, Hi again everyone, Update Report from the Human Guinea Pig: The possible
correlation effects of accutane(iso-tretinoin and a self-administered program of extremely high
antioxidant and vitamin A synergistic systemic intake. Day #4: (note: I will first site the effects
of my program here. I have yet to review Q&A from previous posts, will review these in a future
post.) Day 4 my program hypothesis is based on a theory of high nutrition intake, together with
systemic intake f "super" anti-oxidants and vitamin A. The first several days, NOT to my
suprise, I had symptoms quite parallel to the effects of Accutane (Note, I am currently NOT
taking Accutane, i.e headache. Day#4 has brought tremendous effects: 1. All headaches are
gone!! (Similar coorespondence to Accutane and high Vit, A intake (remember that Accutane is
a Vit. A analog) 2. I have experienced EXACTLY, the same "shedding" of skin (I believe this is
hyper-exfoliation, which is a similar mechanism in the intake of Accutane). Many of the post
here refer this to "dry skin". I believe this is just the manifestation of ead skin cells
hyer-exfoliating "shedding". Remarkably, this shedding occurred exactly in the same location
(beneath mouth, chin region), as my courses with Accutane! 3. This shedding often will appear
and make one look very young due to the light reflections off the white dead skin cells. Later, I
can wipe these right off when the skin is moist right after a shower. However the newly exposed
skin should be moi turized and protected now. 4. Fourth, and of great effect, all inflamed nodules
(these were not extremely large, however were the inflamed type) on my forehead region above
the eyes have either disappeared, or are completely dry. 5. No oily skin today!!! 6. I have NOT
reduced my caloric intake, amd my skin is clear today!! 7. My cleansing regimine is consisting
of two mild warm showers per day, with a mild soap (Dove Unscented) I like this because it
contains titanium dioxide. (I use Banana Boat SPF 50 after my morning shower. I use it on my
nose, and most exposed reas of my face, but not so much that the white titanium dioxide
becomes conspicuous. It can actually cover as "make-up" recovering red areas. 8. My neck
region (and face) have no new nodules! The skin looks great today. More updates later......
Note: Currently I am reluctant to release the exact antioxidants, and vit A comination I am
taking for two reasons: 1. I don't want the products to sell out, in the interest of preservation.
and... 2. I am a little concerned right now that the pharmacutical industry, and possibly even the
medical establishment, may view this as a threat to their profits, amd attempt to remove these
OTC products from the market. More updated later, and amendments.
And.also....... - 11/26/99 21:35:14
Comments:
....And lastly to the sincere young ladies below and to Richard, look at these as OPPORTUNITIES. Maybe you will be the one to discover the solution, maybe you will be the one to offer the advice from experience that one may need someday, Best to you HGPig
Please quit forging my handle - 11/26/99 21:31:25
Comments:
the previous two posts, do you have the courage to reveal your handle? And are you that jealous of my recommendations to attempt to undermine my courage? Best to you anyway. HGPig
spunky - 11/26/99 21:28:49
Comments:
spunky where are you? you were the only normal person here.
spunky - 11/26/99 21:28:48
Comments:
spunky where are you? you were the only normal person here.
HGPig - 11/26/99 21:28:00
Comments:
YES!!! I am insane!!!!!!!!
Insano in the braino.
That is me.
I lie to you all the time.
Decietfully yours,
HGPig
- 11/26/99 21:24:08
Comments:
are you insane ???
Get With It!! From HGPig - 11/26/99 21:18:29
Comments:
Fia go for it! Your my girl! You're starting with the right attitude! Richard, go to another dermatologist, and keep your mouth shut this time. You said the accutane/roc cleared you up, so it will again, gird up and act like a man, and start emphasising t
at you DID clear up with accutane. There are plenty of cases that have gone over two and three times. Anita, I agree the "depression" goes with taking the accutane/roc. People quit using accutane/roc as a scape goat for your lazy self-pity defined "depres
ion" peo. Go into the hospital sometime and do the rounds, go through a cancer ward, a childrens ward, and be thankful your not the parent of a youngster with an inoperable lesion. Do some volunteer work, they're plenty to go around. Get with it, living
s too precious. HGPig
- 11/26/99 21:12:10
Comments:
Silena, hi it's Jill again. I went over the website you gave me and everything sounds great! I mean, but too good to be true. I'm considering calling the toll free number in a little bit but what's the catch? I don't believe in gettign anything for free w
thout a catch. Got anymore info for me? Thanks jill
- 11/26/99 20:59:26
Comments:
By the way Silena, where are you from? I wonder what location you are in that gives you free medicine. JILL
JILL - 11/26/99 20:57:33
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Comments:
Thank you Silena for the advice i truly needed. Man, reading everyone else's postings makes me a bit dperessed. Accutane is so expensive in the U.S. Why is that? Well thanks again Silens. I will definitely check out the site. But honestly, I really doubt
y Dermi will give me medicine for free. I highly doubt it. Jill
Karen - 11/26/99 18:13:42
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
To the lady who posted below...
I don't think she's a bad friend at all, she's just an ignorant one and clearly very insensitive. And poor kid - his poor little face is going to be red raw from scrubbing. Let's hope for his sake that it is just a couple of zits and not the dreaded 'A'
word. In the meantime, I think you need to park her in front of this site and let her realise that Acne is a pretty serious affliction and not a case of severe lack of personal hygiene. But don't let it affect your friendship - I'm sure she didn't mean t
hurt your feelings. Wishing you and everyone all the best. Love Karenxx
Oops I mean Marie not Natasha - 11/26/99 17:57:33
Gender: girl
Age: 35
Comments:
Sorry, I was responding to Marie rather than Natasha. Darn it.
This is how it begins - 11/26/99 17:50:13
Gender: girl
Age: 35
Comments:
Hello all, My friend, her son, and I were dining one evening a couple weeks ago and I don't know how it came up but she brought up the subject of her 9 year old son starting to get a couple of spots and she said she has told him that he needs to wash real
y good. Well.... given the fact the I am the expert on Acne and she knows all that I have been and am going through with it, I say "It has nothing to do with how much you wash your face" I clean my face very well and I have acne. She then felt like sh
should say that mine was on the inside. Duh!!!!!!!! So is her sons. Sometimes I wonder what kind of a friend she is to me. I know that some or even most people might think that is nothing but several times within the last 5 years before she has said t
at there must be something as if I maybe wasn't doing enough. And so now she is teaching her son to believe that it is in how clean you get your face. Poor kid, if he does turn out to have acne problems he will think it is because he is not cleaning wel
enough and that it is his fault. What a shame. She is still my friend and I realize that is not a very serious thing to discard of a friend, but it just makes me realize just what level of friend she is to me. And to her son for that matter. I mean m
goodness, if only we all cleaned our faces well enough we would not need accutane and we would not have to try out all of the antibiotics for months and years. Shame on us we'll just have to do better. Well, I have to go clean my face now. Natasha, Bei
gs that you have been depressed, do look out closely for yourself when on Accutane. You may not actually get depressed and lethargic but there also is a good chance that you will. Just take a moment at a time for a few months. Expecting depression may
elp you through.
Anita - 11/26/99 15:18:36
My Email:anita.worton@modisintl.com
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Comments:
Richard....you sound very disheartened, its such a shame the depression affected you so much. Personally the depression I had was cured as soon as I took roaccutane, i'd not felt so good in months! But don't give up. I think you really need to persever
with your GP/Dermatologist - a lot depends on how sympathetic they are to your case. I read a article once about a girl who had been refused Roaccutane after her first course and relapsed. Anyway, she was so determined not to give up that her dermatolo
ist in the end prescribed dapsone (I'm not sure if that is the correct spelling)...this was combined with other therapy. Dapsone is originally used to treat leprosy, so I guess it is a pretty powerful drug. she has remained clear ever since - don't give
up! I'm sure once you find someone who is really sympathetic your depression will subside naturally.
Richard - 11/26/99 13:22:29
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Comments:
Comment for Anita Worton : For the last 10 years I have suffered from acne and I can relate to all the unhappeness people feel. Since 13 I have been on every antibiotic there is. Ive also been on two courses of roaccutane over the last 5 years. In both c
ses my skin cleared up but within 5 months of each course they were back. I went back to the derm to get a third course but he refused. The reason being was the bad depression I expericenced on it. Im not saying that everyone will feel this depression whi
e taking roaccutane
roaccutane, but people should be aware of it. In my case the derm felt the roaccutane had basically brought out the underlying depression I had as a result of my acne. As a result Ive now been on anti-depressents for over a year.
So people do be careful and be aware of the depression issue.
Im now trying to come to terms with the fact that it appears nothing can be done for my acne. If anyone out there knows of some new treatment that has become available over the last 12 months please let me know.
Finally if youve got ance, try and keep postive I know its hard to do this, but try.
Anita - 11/26/99 11:47:35
My Email:anita.worton@modisintl.com
Gender: female
Age: 27
Comments:
I've just found this site....mixed reaction, a lot of really interesting stuff and a lot of crap, but overall a relief to know it's here. I want to hear from anyone who's had more than 3 courses or Roaccutane - i've had 3 over 5 years and after a brillia
t clear whole year the buggers are reappearing again and i'm now waiting for yet another appointment with my derm which could take another 2-3 months! Can't cope with that same old nightmare again - has anyone got a similar story?
connie - 11/26/99 11:32:52
Age: 19
Comments:
I've been reading all the post and have noticed you guyz talking about the price of roaccutane, some of you are so lucky you even get it for free...well i wish i was so lucky - in South Africa nothin is for free!!!
my full course is about R6000...and thats ALOT where i come from!!!
Fia - 11/26/99 09:37:37
Gender: female
Age: 19
Comments:
This page is wonderful. I have just found it. I have been reading what you all been writing and it help. I am taking tetracykline for the third time and it doesn't help. I am thinking about trying roaccutane.
to Marie.......fr Jasmine - 11/26/99 09:28:36
Comments:
hi Marie,i understand ur feelinmgs now but dun worry its going to get better but u will need a lot of patience for this and dun worry soon it will be over.At least u re not alone rite?
so all the best!
To Jasmine - 11/26/99 09:24:17
Comments:
If you can't get Aquaphor, ask your doc if it is ok to use plain old Vaseline, it's the main ingredient in Aquaphor. It is a moisturizer and as far as I can tell it contains no acid. It's consistancy is very much like vaseline. Aquaphor is made by the sam
people who make Eucerin which according to the back of the tube is Beiersdorf Inc. I hope that you can find it and that it has the same effect for you that it did for me. Nadia
Thanks to Silena and Marie - 11/26/99 09:16:58
Comments:
Thanks for the info on needy meds, that seems like a great resource that I will definately pass around. To Marie- I know that this may sound kinda corny but I felt so bombarded by images of perfect skin thatwas just so far out of my reach that I started t
mythologise my own condition (though not like the movie "How To Get Ahead In Advertising"). My favorite horse was the appaloosa so I started to think of myself as "The Spotted Woman" as if my totem was just seeping through my soul onto my skin. I had to
ind some way to give myself dignity and to make myself giggle whenever I felt so beaten down by this disease that the only way that I felt comfortable going out of the house was wearing a ski mask. The spotted woman would not be ashamed, no the pus filled
little devils are the method that she employs to help others to feel compassion and bring about a more decent society in general (Giggle). Hi Ho Acne away! I hope that the accutane works for you, just remember that there are many other pockmarked faces i
the sun (though not until after they finish taking accutane). Nadia
Jasmine - 11/26/99 09:08:10
Age: 19
Comments:
hey people thanks for all the advice.What it Aquarphor? is it a moisturiser?I am a singaporean and i'm not sure if they sell in in my country.
Hgpig....applying moisturiser sfter shower and rubbing the dead skin off helps but after a while my skin becomes dry again and starts to peel.So its only temporory.
Hey Guys dont u think it sucks when u enter a pharmacy with all the staffs staring at ur face????i wont want to buy anything from them!Well i will ask my mum to get it for me.Does Aquarphor contain any acid??cause my derm told me not to use any while on a
cutane.
Well i am on 20mg per day and its quite a low dose but i weigh 48kg so its abt less thank 0.5mg/kg i am thinking of raising the dose but is afraid of not being able to handle the side effects.i am restless most of the time and i think i cant handle any in
reased side effects if i were to increzase my dose.Well thats abt it and all the best to u guys!
Marie - 11/26/99 08:52:42
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
I have been reading this site everyday for the last two months. And I have found it to be a real support and encouragement. I thought I'd just share with all of you some of my experiences with Acne. I have had acne since I was fourteen and seem to have b
en on every drug under the sun namely. Tetracycline, Capcycline, Erothromecine (sorry not sure of spelling), Doxcycline, Logynon, Dianette. I've also been for chemical peels and galvanic peels. In every situation with the above medication, none seemed t
work or either they worked while I was on it and the acne came back as soon as I was taken off it. As I grew into adulthood my acne seemed to worsen. As you all know It's awful, I compare myself to everyone around me, all of whom seemed to have perfect
skin and understood nothing of the agony of waking up each morning having to look at that same ugly skin everyday. I got very very depressed while I was on the Dianette medication, and even thought about ending it all. It sometimes feels to me like acne
is a curse. Mine has gone on for so long, it has abosolutely robbed me of my self confidence and it takes every inch of effort I have to get out of bed in the mornings. I have found that I became very sensitive to criticism. I just long for the day whe
I don't have to worry about acne. It has ruined my life so far, and the thing is that you don't realise it at the time, it kind of creeps up on you. I have had to go for councelling because of my feelings of depression and self esteem. Howver, I have
ust started a course of roaccutane and really hope with all my heart that this will be the cure, as I don't know How long I can keep going on hoping only to be let down all the time. I just know that if my skin clears up I'll be able to lead a more fulfi
ling life. I know this has been a long post and thank you to those who have stayed with me, I think this has been burning on my heart for ages and today I just had to let it out. I'm on week three of roaccutane and my skin has dried out a little. Will k
ep you all posted on progress. Take Care and God Bless
Natasha - 11/26/99 08:40:28
My Email:halo_drifter@angelfire.com
Gender: female
Age: 15
Comments:
My skin had started to get bad in Yr 9. I tried every single thing from herbal medication, chinese remedies, antibiotics - everything. I even tried as a last resort gem stones and healing crystals. My parents were really against me going onto Roaccutane,
ut eventually I did. Has anyone else reading this experienced blotchy red scars that seem to take ages to fade, I have another month left on it, I been on it for nearly a year. Please e-mail me if u can answer my query.
Rob - 11/26/99 06:42:50
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
To STANOZOL: I can't imagine that taking a steroid while on roaccutane would be wise. Although stanozol is regard as a mild steroid in a small dose, I think that along with roaccutane it would be very hard on the liver and your immune system. I would sugg
st waiting some time after your course of roaccutane and talk to your doctor first. Although acne from steroids is mostly temporary, you woul have to ask your self, is it worth it. If yes, then you are wasting your money on this course of roaccutane. ROB.
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From GW to everyone at this site........ - 11/26/99 06:41:07
Comments:
"Hallucinate, Desegregate, Mediate, Alleviate, Try Not to Hate, Love Your Mate, Don't Suffocate on Your Own Hate, Designate Your Love as Fate, a One World State as Human Freight.
rob - 11/26/99 06:32:45
Comments:
Whoa ! $300 US thats alot. Here in Australia it is $20.30 without concession. Boy they really hit you hard. My six month course will cost about $142.10
silena - 11/26/99 06:32:30
My Email:silena100@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
TO JILL: Ask your dermatologist help you get free accutane. He/she can obtain it for free provided you meet certain requirements. My derm was an angel; I received free medication, AND he even waived the office visit fees. All I had to pay for was the l
b work each month. Check out needymeds.com ... you can find more info about it there.
Yes in the United States - 11/26/99 06:02:08
Comments:
...Roche takes full advantage, unfortunately the uninsured get rocked. Question to the Icelander, I am assuming your health care is govt. renumerated? Sounds like your accutane is very easy to obtain also. I am curious as to how liberal your physicians ar
to give out accutane perscriptions?
Pam - 11/26/99 05:56:15
Comments:
If you hold a concession card...it's less than five dollars a box here in Australia...
- 11/26/99 05:55:25
Comments:
2000 - 3500 $ ??? The whole course here is like 100 - 150 $. Man it must suck being an acne american :(
Tiffany Benoit - 11/26/99 05:51:17
My Email:b.tiffany@angelfire.com
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Comments:
Hi! I had very bad acne, and I hated it. It started in the sixth grade. I told my parents about accutane, but they did not agree with it. So finally in the ninth grade after everything we tried they decided to let me get on it. I am now in the tenth grade
and off. It helped so much. I am so greatful for that medicine. I used to be ashamed to go anywhere without makeup, but now I go places without any makeup. The good thing was that people did not tease me. They also told me that my face does not matter, it
is what is on the inside. They also used to tell me it was not my fault. The only thing is that when I was on the medicine I did not break out at all, but now since I am off I break out every now and then. If anyone would like to email me to ask questions
tell me things, or just to talk here is my address.
b.tiffany@angelfire.com
Jill..... - 11/26/99 05:44:20
Comments:
....you state "accutane" so I am assuming your referring to those residing in the United States. $300.00 approximately (more accurately approximately $330.00 PER REFILL. Thus the complete course will average from $2000.00 to $3500.00 depending on dose and
duration. Unfortunately, this is a patent-monopoly sitiuation controlled by one company, Roche. Outside the United States it is usually less, but Roche still holds the monopoly.
- 11/26/99 05:40:48
Comments:
Jill - I live in Iceland and here I get it for free :) Usually I've had to pay something like 50 $ for three boxes (150 pills) but for some weird reason, I got the last three for nothing. Must be sad to live in U$A or whatever country that refuses to he
p ppl in need, for reasons like lack of money.
I apply on wet face GW - 11/26/99 05:35:27
Comments:
...to trap the moisture in the skin. No, I do not do this with sunscreen. Only the Banana Boat SPF 50 I have found not to be "shine-greasy" in appearance. Again, I apply the moisturizer while wet to trap the moisture in the skin...this is mainly to the mo
t dry areas, especially those that may tend to crack and peal the most. Best to you. HGPig
JILL - 11/26/99 05:20:41
Gender: female
Age: 20
Comments:
hi guys. It's me Jill. I haven't posted in a while. Well, now i've been off treatment for almost 4 months now. My skin is starting to regress terribly. Instead of the bigg red zits i used to get, now i have so many small pimples all over me cheeks. It's j
st as embarassing. I SO badly want to start a second course but my insuance has run out. My father is still unemployed and we cannot afford insurance. I so desperately want more accutane..I want a second course of treatment but can't afford it. Without in
urance, it costs well over 300 dollars I hear!! Someone, PLEASE PLEASE help me out. Does anyone know of a cheaper way to get accutane? Pls respond thanks
A few short words from GW to everyone visiting the site.......... - 11/26/99 05:13:17
Comments:
"Hallucinate, Desegregate, Mediate, Alleviate, Try Not to Hate, Love Your Mate, Don't Suffocate on Your Own Hate, Designate Your Love as Fate, a One World State as Human Freight.
GW - to Nadia (female 20) & anyone else interested - 11/26/99 05:09:35
Comments:
I don't know you but it sounds as if you have mild acne if you are weighing up the side effects. For people with severe cystic acne the side effects are irrelevant. They don't even think twice about them. Sometimes the more serious side effects (liver d
mage) are not even an issue because they need the drug so badly. So BASICALLY what I'm trying so say is that if your thinking about side effects in the first place then your acne is NOT that bad.
GW- message for the PIG - 11/26/99 05:02:44
Comments:
Why do you say to put moisturiser on immediately after a shower when your face is still wet. Does this apply to sunscreen as well? So you don't even dry your face with a towel???
Rini - 11/26/99 04:07:03
My Email:missrini@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Comments:
Oh, one more thing! For those fellow Aussies, buy yourselves some Paw Paw Ointment and use it on your dry/chapped lips....it works wonders :)
justin - 11/26/99 03:48:48
Comments:
whoever posted below about vitamin C.. thanks. BUt I still need to know if ibuprfin interferes with the absorbtion of accutane. thanks
jaime dulcey - 11/26/99 03:21:15
My Email:dularn@hotmail.com
Gender: male macho
Age: 19
Comments:
hey people, hope you´re doin fine, im on my 7 th week and my face is gettin real smooth but i still have the red marks, which is nothin compared to the bumps. i discovered somethin great for chapped lips, it is called lip medex from blistex i swear by my
om and fam that i has worked great for me. buy it and contact me.
ROB - 11/26/99 03:17:33
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com.au
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Comments:
TO CAELLY: I know exactly what you mean, they suck! They seem to fester under the skin and they really hurt. I started to get these for some reason, not many, but one is enough, however since on roaccutane I have not had one like this appear. Go and see y
u derm. Good Luck !
TO ANGUS: I also know how you feel, I am often lacking energy, and I also weight/fitness train so it can be rather taxing. Maybe you should look into your diet and maybe try to increase your carbohydate intake if needed, and be sure to get enough sleep. B
t dont give up. Good luck . ROB.
ROB - 11/26/99 03:09:54
My Email:rmanitta@hotmail.com.au
Gender: male
Age: 23
Comments:
I went to my Drem yesterday, 3 months into my treatment. He seems happy and said another three months should do it, I really hope so! My skin has not really changed much over the last month compared to the first two months. He said it will start to get be
ter and better each month. No bad side affects to report other than dry arms and pink face, damn it! However it seems to be better after starting to use cetaphil cleanser. Still on 40mg/60mg on alternate days. And hope in three months I will be all clear.
Good luck all. ROB
Thanks Rini - 11/26/99 02:53:43
Comments:
Thanks for your comment regarding birth defects, everything that I have seen does seem to indicate that the risk does go down to normal levels but it is comforting to hear it from as many sources as possible. It affected my cycle after 2 weeks (I've only
een on for about a month) so it could be that it does have some sort of affect for those of us with endo. I still haven't seen any improvement with my skin but if it only affects my cycles it has been well worth it so far. - Nadia
Rini - 11/26/99 02:47:30
My Email:missrini@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Comments:
To the woman below who was asking about cycles/birth defects: My husband and I want to start a family next year too, and so this was an important consideration for us. I have read alot about it on the internet and from all of the personal postings I hav
seen, all of the women reported healthy children :) Also, I have not noticed any changes in my cycle (although this is only week 4 of the drug for me) but I do not suffer from any heavy periods or any pain at all usually.
Rini - 11/26/99 02:44:01
My Email:missrini@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 26 (for one more week!)
Comments:
Hi everyone :)
TO CAELLY: Yes, that whole cyst thing is the reason I am taking Oratane (Accutane). I hardly ever get "normal" pimples, just those painful lumps which sometimes never form a head and stick around for a week or two. And there's NO covering those up with m
ke-up! I totally sympathise with you and agree that you should see your Dermatologist about them. In the meantime, I find that icing them as often as possible helps with the pain and swelling. Good luck!
Dear Splinter - 11/26/99 02:41:28
Comments:
My husband and I want to have a family as well and I have been really worried about Accutane and any long term effects on any of our children. I did some checkng around before taking Accutane and according to people that I spoke with at the university of
O as well as three doctors, the birth defect level goes down to level of the normal female population within three months of stopping the medication. This and my horrible cysts were good enough to get me on the medecine, but I have yet to meet the child o
another woman who has taken the drug. Are there any cured females out there with healthy children?
Also because I had tacked this onto a rather lengthy email I wanted to ask the women reading this site if they had noticed any changes n ther cycles. I have only been on the drug for a month and have endometriosis. This past cycle was the first pain free
ne that I have ever had. Any one have similiar experiences?
Pam - 11/26/99 00:49:03
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
on Neostrata...I've never tried the 'Oily Skin Solution'...but I LOVE the 'Skin Smoothing Lotion' (10% Glycolic acid)...N.B. USING GLYCOLIC ACID ON ROACCUTANE IS GENERALLY NOT RECOMMENDED...but because I've been on such low doses (20mg/day)...I haven't ha
a problem using the Neostrata...
- 11/26/99 00:17:27
Comments:
I'm a sincere one, and doing the work really reading all the posts, and not making judgements, based on being here for weeks. Great site, many good tips these last several weeks, especially today. Aquaphor sounds interesting. Thanks for the tip, and grea
site! Keep it up!
Thanks Great Site! Especially Today! - 11/26/99 00:12:59
Comments:
Thanks, great site, especiallly today. Great site Gill, keep it just the way it is. Thanks for supporting democracy, and no vulgar today too! Alot of helpful information posted today regarding moisurizers, sun help, help with dry skin etc., This was an i
formative day. This still is a great site!!!!!
Angus - 11/25/99 23:18:24
My Email:angus.hulme32@virgin.net
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
I am now in week 10 of 60 per day. The skin is improved, though doesn't look great because of dry skin, and I look very washed out (also big bags under my eyes). I have found personally that the biggest ongoing problem for me is that it has sapped all m
energy. It has got to the stage when I am not planning to do anything too ambitious with my life, but just take it easy until I am off the drug. Do many others find this? I need to sleep a lot, and am happy to spend a lot of time watching telly. My m
ods are rarely good, and I have lost all my outwardgoingness & vivacity. It has got to the stage where it is the norm to feel terrible!
caelly - 11/25/99 23:07:41
My Email:caelly@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 23
Comments:
Hello all, and Happy Thanksgiving to all the Yanks in here. :)
My skin has been doing tolerably well lately and looks fairly okay today. I have a question for you all though.
Have any of you ever had acne that is not like a "normal" pimple with a head but is more like a lump beneath the skin that takes up to a week or more to recede? I notice that once in a while I've been getting these. What can you do about them? If I not
ce the amount of these lumps is increasing, I'm heading to the derm to show him and see what he says.
Thanks for any info. :)
Katie - 11/25/99 23:00:09
My Email:kategray@yahoo.com
Gender: female
Age: 28
Comments:
I am an Aussie female form Melbourne and have experienced spots since an early age and over the years it has become worse. I often get cysts which hurt so much. I have tried so many face washes creams tablets and nothing seems to really help. I have bee
thinking about taking the drug roaccutane and have found reading all your comments really helpful. Yesterday I just bought the products made by NeoStrata "solution for oily skin" and was glad to hear that Splinter has had found it helpful. If Splinter
ould give me some more information about using these products that would be fantastic. I just want this to stop! Some days I find it so hard to get out of the house because I feel like people stare. I hate when my face clears and it lasts for a couple
f hours and then off it goes again and I get another group of cysts. I wish it would just bloody stop and I could get on with my life and not have to spend a moment of thought on my face!!
- 11/25/99 22:56:40
Comments:
I haven't visited this site for a few weeks and I just can't believe how it has changed. A lot of it now just doesn't make sense at all. So many pointless and abusive messages. I thought it was supposed to help and discuss acne/accutane/cures and other
people's experiences. What went wrong? If you are out there Gill I think the site needs sorting out and to get back to how it was. This way of communication is not helping anyone. A lot of the supportive and experienced people have stopped posting and
I can see why.
To J. Cruz - 11/25/99 22:52:04
Comments:
I was driving during the afternoon last week and having been caught going in the precise direction that the sun would do it's worst. The trip lasted about 45 minutes I was inside the car the whole time but I still went pink from sun exposure. Aquaphor def
nately helped the sting and the pinkness did go away quickly. I hope it does for you as well. Nadia
HEAR YE! HEAR YE !!! ALL RISE - 11/25/99 22:31:05
Comments:
......this is Natalie Allen reporting CNN NEWS BULLEIN.....CNN NEWS BULLETIN...SPECIAL REPORT....SPECIAL REPORT......."we have just learned that an emergency resumption of the trial of HGPig has resumed....HGPig alias "Poofy Pig, "Flying Pig", "Cut-n-Past
Pig", "Take a Lock Pig", "Doc Pig", "Chemistry Pig", ......"ALL QUIET PLEASE, for the Honorable Judge!! "BANG BANG BANG" "You may be seated"..."will the 12 pig jury enter please"..."you pinksters may be seated"..."first witness please"....."the defense c
lls Ray "Tin Man" Skozlowski to the stand"....WAIT! WAIT! we can't get the Tin Man's spelling right, our computers have crashed and we are unable to cut-n-paste names"..."and more, we will have to hire a courtroom artist, our digital courtroom camera feed
will be unable to cut-n-paste pics to our CNN audience around the world"...."Bang bang bang, court come to order!" "come to order!" "All kangaroos in the back please quit hippity-hopping around with your Greg Norman autographed T-shirts"...."Tin-Man Ray
ake the witness stand"..."Do you swear to tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?".."Maybe your Honor....WAIT WAIT!!!.."this is Natalie Allen again" .."it is beginning to rain in the courtroom!!!!" "...there appears to be a hole in the ceiling, A
n Coulter is attmpting from the upstairs chamber in her "conference" with HG to plug the hole with her one free hand....HOWEVER, to no avail".."the rain is falling steadily all throughout the courtroom, and many of the kangaroos have left to feast on turk
y and their own kind"...."LOOK!, LOOK, Ray the Tin-Man has become "frozen" someone find his oil can."...." At this moment many are running from the courtroom attempting to stay dry".."except one spectator can been seen leaving the room, mounting and ridin
away on a tri-cycle heading for the Canadian Rockies shouting, "where's my goat's soap?" "we understand along his way liquid yellow-orange accutane stops will be provided".."many two-and-one-half foot tall people, several kangaroos, and Greg Norman are
oining the tricyle race." "several All-Boyz are behind chest painted with black-bow-ties and nothin at all.."Go get um, giddy-up, giddy up" the fans are shouting....."who will win the tricycle race..."...probably not the Tin-Man..."where's that oil can?"
."where's that oil can?"...."this is a situation!"...."Natalie Allen reporting..more on this BREAKING NEWS later......
J. Cruz - 11/25/99 21:40:14
Comments:
ok, I have a question. I went out in the sun today(mostly overcast) for about 30 minutes. It was pretty cloudy and was at abot 2:30. My skin looks red now. Is that my imagination and will it be back to normal by morning?? please help. I know the ski
makes your skin red from accutane but do you think I am just overdoing it??? or was that really bad for me? thanks
Nadia - 11/25/99 20:47:25
Age: 27
Comments:
What I have learned about popping- from what I have gathered these nefarious bastards originate deep within your skin, when you disturb the eruption according to the germ theory it makes the cancer of acne apread. according o the networking theory (my ter
inology) if you don't pop it in just the right way it spreads beneath your skin causing further nodular breakouts. I talked with an aesthetician who said that the only safe time to do anything is when you see the white pus globule and you are only suppose
to do minimal amount of squeezing to eliminate the white spot. Be gentle, anytime you rupture the membrane you leave yourself open to infection. And then of course there is the scarring factor. I think that the consensus is that no one really knows. Acne
seems to have so many different causes and while popping might cause a spread for me it might not for you or other people (I have known poppers who experienced no bad effects)
About drinking- I have been on the drug for almost a month and at around 2 weeks I had a few too many gin and tonics to celebrate. The next couple of days I had several nosebleeds. It was stupid of me to think that drinking would have no effect while taki
g the drug.
To Other Women: I wanted to see if anyone else has had this experience while on Accutane- I have endometriosis which means that every cycle I am taking narcotics (prescribed of course) to deal with the pain. My first cycle while on Accutane I did not even
need to take a Tylenol. My bleeding which is usually like flood was actually managable and I did not become anemic. It was wonderful! If it does nothing for my skin I hope that this effect is permanent. Has this happened for anyone else?
Pam - 11/25/99 20:23:00
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
Yikes Justin...you got your tongue pierced on Ro/accutane??? OUCH!!! I seem to remember hearing somewhere that it's a good idea to wait 6-12 months after finishing Ro/accutane...before getting any piercings or tattoos...something to do with the skins abil
ty to heal...anyway...it's done now...and I don't know about Ibuprofen having an interaction with Ro/accutane...but it might be worth taking some extra Vit. C over the next couple of weeks...when I had major surgery a couple of years ago...my specialist p
t me on a regime of mega doses of Vit. C for a month before the op...because it's supposed to promote healing...COURTNEY (11)...glad you're still around...hopefully we will have some kind of solution for the language problem soon...have you tried reading
hrough the archives??? There's some great information there too...(and less bad language!!!)...Alex (13)...first day on Ro/Accutane eh? Wanted to wish you lots of luck with your treatment...I hope it all turns out really well for you...
Jerry attrick - 11/25/99 18:25:57
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
here me now!
I is on roaccutane [correct name]. I am just coming up to my sixth week on 40 mg a day.I have a few questions for anybody that can be bothered to answer them. 1. i use coco butter moisturiser, but feel i am just making my skin for greesy, if you decide no
to use it does dry skin cause spots?
2. I find that a few days after i have had sex or just cum i have bad breakouts, so now my girlfriend is depprived, has other blokes noiticed this?
3.We are told not to pop spots, why ? when i have at least i no they are healing and i think i prefer
having red marks on my face that lumps, can anyone tell me why it's a bad idea ?
4. one more thing when are my fucking spots going to go
Just wanna say how brave the people who are in their 20's and have acne i don't know how you have all coped, you must be strong people.
One last thing, when i am spot free i am going to make it my mission to scrap tv jokes and plots about spotty people they really piss me off
Anyway keep going the drug should work soon?
Karen - 11/25/99 17:06:29
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hi CATHERINE. I'm also a Brit!! I use E45 cream and I think it's great and it's really not expensive. If you want to splash out though, Lancome also do some fantastic moisturisers which I use occasionally. E45 comes in a bottle or in a tube (I prefer
he tubed stuff for my face) and you can get it at any chemist. I use E45 after I've washed my face in the morning (with non-perfumed soap) before I put on my make up and also when I go to bed at night after I've taken my make-up off - I apply it much more
heavily at night. It's initial appearance is greasy but it does get soaked in (and make-up goes on really nicely!!) and since I've been using it, the dryness has gone! Drinking alcohol is a whole other thing – and I don't want to get into trouble with t
is site, but I will say this… You are advised not to drink alcohol and I would imagine it's not written on the Roaccutane leaflet for the benefit of anyone's health other than those who are actually taking the drug. HOWEVER, it doesn't say "Whatever you
o, don't touch any alcohol as it could be fatal!!" My opinion is this… You can drink, but in moderation. You don't have to get completely shit-faced at every given opportunity. Just take it easy and have a bit of respect for your body as it's taking a b
t of a battering at the moment with the chemicals it's trying to deal with. I think if you care enough about the outside of your body to be taking Roaccutane, then you should spare a thought for the inside (but without losing out on having a good time). W
shing you all the best. Love Kxx
HGPig - 11/25/99 17:00:29
Comments:
LOSERS!!!!
Splinter - 11/25/99 14:16:29
My Email:bignose@tpg.com.au
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
I guess you could say that my husband and I have been entertained while reading this guestbook. It's a bit like watching Neighbours!! This bit of info is for you people living in England and other such climates, wondering if sun is good for acne. I live o
the Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. The weather here is comparable to Hawaii, that is the temp can be up to 35 deg celcius with sometimes 95% humidity. My acne, especially on my shoulders gets much worse during our summer when the humidity is at it's
ighest. I don't actually know the logic to this, however doctors I have spoken with in all their wisdom agree the humidity is a big factor. For the last few years I have been seriously considering trying roaccutane but like so many others the numerous sid
effects have made me consider if it was really worth it. To those who feel depressed even disgusted with themselves, I can really empathise. I do think that my biggest hurdle is the fact that we do want a family even if it is not in the immediate future
I have tried to use contraceptive pills before and they in themselves caused problems with acne as well as other health problems. One thing I can't seem to get a straight answer on, is there any info on how long this drug stays in the system, especially
ue to the fact that it is fat soluble. For anybody wondering about other treatments, Micro Dermabrasion is a treatment that I have undergone. For me, it was covered by our health system, since I have cystic acne, which is considered medical. A cosmetic s
rgeon performs this procedure. It takes 1/2 an hour each session and is like a miniature sandblaster. This treatment is done weekly for about a month, then a chemical peel is used, then back to the sandblasting, then slowly you cut back. You peel a lot, b
t it did improve the healing process as well as getting rid of a lot of scarring. The next step is maintenance treatment using a kind of retinal cream topically, then on to the roaccutane. I never used the retinal cream, because I was told that it would b
absorbed through the skin into the blood, and would have similar effects as roaccutane, though not as severe. I guess I'm just a big wuss. After reading about so many of your health concerns, I'm now really confused over what I really want to do. For th
se of you not too busy bickering and using lots of rude words, I would appreciate a response.
Just an extra note, a range of products I have been using is called NeoStrata. It is a glycolic acid product and I have not used a product as good as this before. One product called Solution for Oily Skin is like a miracle lotion. It can bring out a cyst
nd heal it within 24 hours. It is not a cure, otherwise I wouldn't need to be writing all this, but it certainly makes my skin feel smoother finer, and less oily. This is a genuine comment. I paid for it like everybody else and I promise I get no commiss
on, I just appreciate when people tell me about things that work well for them.
HGPig - 11/25/99 13:55:59
Comments:
hey all ya fuckers, eat shit its good for your acne.
- 11/25/99 13:30:00
Comments:
is any one there?
To Catherine - 11/25/99 12:21:06
Comments:
I use Aqueous cream for the dry skin, it works wonders for dry skin and I find I only need to use it every other day as I can use my usual moisturiser in between!!! You can get it from Boots, (ask for it at the pharmacy counter) its only about £2 for a ma
sive tub or £1 for a tube and I'd highly reccommend it, hope this helps, love CC.
justin - 11/25/99 12:08:41
Comments:
I just got my tounge pierced last night and I've been on accutane for 7 weeks now. I was wondering(to HGPIg and anyone else) is ibuprofin has any effect on accutane??? please, my mouth is sooo swollen and I need to know. thanks in advance
just a test - 11/25/99 11:46:12
Comments:
hello
hello
hello
to catherine - 11/25/99 11:45:40
My Email:n.heppleston@uea.ac.uk
Gender: male
Age: 21
Comments:
Catherine, don't have any skin remedies but one thing i can say is that i find alcohol tends to bring out the little buggers. i'm in my third year at uni, my first and second i spent partying and drinking copious quantities of alcohol, my third year i hav
tried to settle down a bit, and now rarely go down the pub and my skin is the best its every been. when i do go clubbing or down the pub for a swift pint, the next day is always a real mess.....
ps, the apples are working, its getting better, day by day. anyone else had any luck, or is it just working for me?
Nick
Catherine - 11/25/99 11:27:44
My Email:oglepants@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
Hi..Anyone know of any good dry skin remedies availabe in England?? The dry patches on my face are starting to look worse than the zits!!
Also, Is it safe to get pissed (drunk!) whilst on roaccutane?? I have got a few parties to go to and of course New Years to think about and I don't want to end up needing a new liver!! Any thoughts??
Ta ;-)
RE: Winstrol - 11/25/99 08:37:43
Gender: 25
Age: female
Comments:
If you are taking accutane, you should stay away from anything that could cause further liver damage/toxicity. Wait until you are done with the accutane before starting your cycle. One thing, though. If you are on accutane, then apparently you feel you
acne is severe enough to warrant treatment with such a nasty medication. Why in the world would you want to use a substance that could exacerbate your acne? That just doesn't make any sense!
Your hepatic - 11/25/99 08:32:08
Comments:
Your hepatic system is priceless, check only with your specialist. Make certain he/she is an M.D. Best to you HGPig.
Woops - 11/25/99 08:28:29
Comments:
Woops, Aquaphor. Best to you. HGPig (Curel also is OTC)
I'll defer to the ladies on this one - 11/25/99 08:26:14
Comments:
Hope the Aquafor works, but perhaps try Curel too. Best to you. HGPig...deferring to the ladies.
To Jasmine - 11/25/99 08:14:34
Comments:
Aquaphor realy worked for me as well. My dermotologist gave me samples but since I have had to get it from the pharmacist. It's about 5$ for a 2 ounce tube and reading the ingredients it has petrolatum as the main ingredient so you might be able to just u
e Vaseline. I thought that it would just lay on the surface of my skin like oil, but my skin really soaked it up. I had alot of peeling while the dead skin was being shed, but it was no longer painful and within a week of use the peeling seems to have sto
ped along with the redness. I hope that you feel better!! Nadia
To Nadia from Nadia - 11/25/99 08:05:37
Comments:
Hi Nadia, its Nadia
I have had abnormal blood results (but no permanent damage yet -smile.) and the decision to start accutaine was not an easy one. Being 27 and having gone through the whole slew of remedies and not having found any that worked, left me still desperate to t
y anything than rather than being resigned to living with acne. The accutaine hasn't helped yet in fact it has made my symptoms alot worse. If it does help I will post it so you can weigh your options and mabey decide that you don't have to live as a recl
se because of this ghastly affliction.
nadia - 11/25/99 07:55:26
Gender: female
Age: 20
Comments:
Just reading your comments alone scared me to death. I am never going to take Accutane. I would rather have a few pimples then take chances on liver damage and who knows what else. Although I am depressed and hardly ever go outside, I think I would rat
er be antisocial then be permanently physically damaged by some medication I might not really need.
Is there anyone it ever really works for without side effects?
Courtney - 11/25/99 07:52:48
My Email:coulinjo@eon.net.au
Gender: female
Age: 11
Comments:
TO PAM Thanks for the message. It's appreciated.
TO EVERYONE ELSE My Mum won't let me read this site on my own because of all your bad language and bad attitudes. But we'll keep reading because the good far outweighs the bad.
TO HGPIG. - 11/25/99 07:50:43
Comments:
You are still around after all that crap they out on you eh! good on you ! Anyway you may be abl eto help me with my query. What weould be the affect of taking a sterod (stanozol/winstrol) water based, low dose 8 week course. What effect does it have on a
ne, and while on roaccutane, ie. on the liver etc. Just looking for any advice from experience or facts from anyone.
Thanks
Gretchen - 11/25/99 07:44:18
Age: 25
Comments:
Jasmine: I sympathize with you, I've had the same problem while on Accutaine. The only thing that helped was Aquaphor. It is made by the same people who make Eucerin and it is basically Vaseline but it really helped me alot. I desperately needed moisturiz
r but every time I would apply my face would sting horribly. They sometimes keep it behind the pharmacist's counter (although it is an over the counter drug)I hope that it hepls you feel better, for me it was immediate relief.
And Jasmine....... - 11/25/99 07:43:23
Comments:
Curel may be the only mosturizer that will work here. And I like the "red" areas, if they are the recently shed areas, to definitely covered with Curel. HGPig
John - 11/25/99 07:38:56
Age: 18
Comments:
Nadia: I've also seen a leap in my cholesterol, I've been given a low fat diet and will be retested. Has anyone else had an ongoing problem?
Jasmine have you tried - 11/25/99 07:36:42
Comments:
...have you tried to apply the moisturizer immediately after the shower WHILE THE SKIN IS STILL WET? HGPig.
The "Sun" continued: HGPig - 11/25/99 07:34:16
Comments:
And the idea with "acne" affected areas is that red/dark-sun skin = appearance(s) of inflamation, hence the "Law of Diminishing Returns", Best to you HGPig
jasmine - 11/25/99 07:33:56
Comments:
help! iam peeling like a snake!very severe peeling!What should i do? rubbing the dead skin off after showers are only temporary.No moisturisers seems to help and the rednees is driving me crazy!!
Sun continued HGPig - 11/25/99 07:01:03
Comments:
And backed up by much practical experience. Best to you. HGPig
The "Sun" issue: from HGPig - 11/25/99 06:51:43
Comments:
It is important to realize that exposure to ultraviolet radiation is a degrading factor to the skin matrix. I have numerous studies and documentation, which I will not post here. Realize that the appearance of "red" areas may be a sign of areas undergoing
repair and collagen formation.but, the RATE, of degregation may manifest in non-affected areas, resulting in the uniform appearance of the superficial dermal layer. (of the rate, I currently have no study, this is a hypothesis). Therefore, the conclusion
s that while exposure may APPEAR to improve the skin, in reality it does not, and activates the mechanism of photoaging.
Eugene - 11/25/99 06:42:47
My Email:eugene_n@yahoo.com
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Comments:
Hi, I'm from Malaysia. Currently I have quite serious acne problem at my backside and I've tried a number of treatement, none of them help, and now my doctor adviced my to take Roaccutane, but it is to expensive for me to continuously taking it (3 capsule
for day) for 16 weeks, and he charge me $12 a capsule, does anybody know where can I get the cheaper roaccutane.
Your help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanx, Eugene.
Alyssa - 11/25/99 06:29:47
Comments:
I know everyone says tanning is so bad for your skin, but I used to go to the tanning booth in highschool and I never had an acne problem. My skin looked really good then. I vowed to stop going a couple years ago because I don't want to wrinkle and get
kin cancers. But I do notice when I get sun, my face looks better. I went to the tanning booth this summer before my best friend's wedding and my skin looked really good. Now I'm a mess though. I'm not encouraging people to go tanning though. With th
medications we're on, it increases photosensitivity. But from my experiences, sun clears me up. Sun has the opposite effect on some people though. Everyone is different. Hope everyone is having a happy night!! luv, Alyssa
- 11/25/99 05:03:54
Comments:
A tanning bed is a thing you have to use if you wanna be a sugar-sweet-chocko boy. It's a fake sun for those of us unfortunate ones who never see the sun except for 2 months a year. Maybe I just don't know the right words for it 'cause english is not my
first language, but it's the lamp you lie in and it shines some ultra violet rays in your face. I tried it three times and I will never do that again. My face went from lala to ohmygodwhathaveidone.
GW - 11/25/99 04:37:14
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Okay, I'm just a stupid kid, but your going to have to explain to me what a "tanning bead" is. And why are they a big "no no." But yeah, see another dude/dudess with favourable opinions of the big yellow sun. So if anyone wants to refute this go ahead**
**************************************************************"Hallucinate, Desegregate, Mediate, Alleviate, Try Not to Hate, Love Your Mate, Don't Suffocate on Your Own Hate, Designate Your Love as Fate, a One World State as Human Freight."
- 11/25/99 04:15:22
Comments:
GW - I live in a shithole where the sun never shines so I wouldn't really know. However, in the summer (when the sun actually shines), my skin gets a lot better and thats when I stay out in the sun all day. Tanning beads however are a big no no, they ju
t make your spots worse.
To Kristen from GW - 11/25/99 04:14:46
Comments:
Hey, if you want to get the time slot thing right then we might meet again some time. I saw your post below but ive got no idea what time it was (the time on the board is weirdo) Anyway, tell me where your from and we can work out the difference........
.....best wishes.............***GW***
GW - 11/25/99 04:11:03
Comments:
OKAY PEOPLE, on to more pressing issues - SUN AND ACNE. CMON, surely there is someone out there with some information. Many people believe sun is good for acne and I've yet to see any evidence to prove otherwise. REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES
REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES REPLIES would be great because many people are asking about this.
GW - 11/25/99 04:07:32
Comments:
Problem is, this site is still and can be informative if we have the same old people stop beating up on the people who are actually informative (eg HGPIG) Who gives a shit if he's cutting and pasting, its not hurting you so if its not relevant to you the
just scroll past it. Simple.******leaving the building the Gee Dub.
Steve - 11/25/99 02:52:06
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Comments:
This week 9 for me and I´m worst than ever. I went to my derm and he told me it was my broken up. I thought that was in the 3ird week. When I arrived home I started crying because I can´t stand this anymore. Good luck for everybody out there.
Steve
Alex - 11/25/99 02:46:03
Gender: Female
Age: 13
Comments:
I start my first day of Accutane today (yay!) and I'm nervous, thrilled, and have many mixed emotions right now. I have waited a few months for my dermatologist to say yes to it, but I'm psyched...i'm prepared for dryness and having to take out my contac
s but i guess it will be worth it. Good luck to everyone on this "miracle" drug!
Happy Thanksgiving Anyway - 11/25/99 02:11:55
Comments:
My comments have
come from my own practical experiences also. I saw a courtesy post from Kate the nurse, I guess her response is not deemed "scientific nor medical or chemical", but mine are. Enjoy yourselves and all your cut-n-paste pics.
So if you
So if you give your e-mail, pics, name etc., your "praising yourself", if you "take a lock" your not telling enough, if you answer questions posed to you, your "technical" or "medicinal" or "chemical", if you give the simple brand names "your a simple chi
d" and it's time for more questions. The truth, I spent hours searching for help to answers here, the questions were asked me. Try yourself to answer the legitimate questions asked me here, if you will be honest and look at the archives. Now my handle is
ked, and my hours of work. Best to you all, and have a Happy Thanksgiving.
He answered the - 11/25/99 01:03:25
Comments:
He answered the questions, not fake jealous ones. And was this board really that informative? Same questions, same answers.
- 11/25/99 00:45:14
Comments:
whats a hippie cluster f? and what happened to this board, it was so helpful before all of this.
GW - 11/25/99 00:37:46
Comments:
For fucksake leave the poor bastard alone he hasn't done that much wrong. To the person about two posts below who wrote in caps just because you are an uneducated little hippie cluster-fuck and can't understand anything bar kindy language doesn't mean yo
have to tell someone to piss off who is posting useful info. I think YOU should get YOUR arse of the board.**********Leaving the building*********The Gee Dub
- 11/25/99 00:16:16
Comments:
Boys, please stop bickering, or do it by e-mail.
TO HGPIG - 11/25/99 00:09:49
Comments:
HGPIG YOU COCKSUCKER, IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO HELP WHOEVER ASKED YOU WHEN YOU FIRST POSTED YOU WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY GIVEN AN ANSWER NOT A ROUNDABOUT I ALREADY ANSWERED THAT RESPONSE. YOU ARE NO HELP. YOUR ANSWERS TWIST THINGS AROUND, YOU ONLY ASNWER WHAT
YOU WANT TO. GET OFF THE SITE.
Furthermore everything I have posted - 11/24/99 23:22:23
Comments:
come from my own practical experiences also. I saw a courtesy post from Kate the nurse, I guess her response is not deemed "scientific nor medical or chemical", but mine are. Enjoy yourselves and all your cut-n-paste pics.
So if you............. - 11/24/99 23:14:30
Comments:
So if you give your e-mail, pics, name etc., your "praising yourself", if you "take a lock" your not telling enough, if you answer questions posed to you, your "technical" or "medicinal" or "chemical", if you give the simple brand names "your a simple chi
d" and it's time for more questions. The truth, I spent hours searching for help to answers here, the questions were asked me. Try yourself to answer the legitimate questions asked me here, if you will be honest and look at the archives. Now my handle is
aked, and my hours of work. Best to you all, and have a Happy Thanksgiving.
To question....11/24/99 22:15:43 - 11/24/99 23:04:18
Comments:
I answered this question already. Best to you. HGPig
I HAVE NOT, NOT! Posted here today at all. - 11/24/99 22:59:33
Comments:
I have not posted here today at all. Best to you. HGPig
GW - 11/24/99 22:49:38
Comments:
Its funny you know because everyone still seems to be defending spunky aka "hedges wanker" and making HGPIG sound useless. People WAKE UP FROM YOUR DEEP HIBERNATION. This jerk is jobless, brainless and a wound-up diminutive wank-stain. Goat Soap, great
for cystic acne that stuff. A fucking soap alone is not going to cure acne you cockspanker that is why the people at this site take roaccutane. I've said it before and I'll say it again don't pro-create with your cousin because this is what will be the
esult..................Leaving the building*********the Gee Dub.
Angela - 11/24/99 22:17:02
My Email:grlzz890@yahoo.com
Gender: female
Age: 19
Comments:
is it bad to pop them, or pick them, whatever you call it, if theres a white head?
TO HGPIG - 11/24/99 22:15:43
Comments:
or anyone that can answer this one
when did you, hgpig, first post on this site? date? ive been looking through the archives and i cant find it, i just want some background on why you started posting and who you are and why you cut and paste medicinal info onto this guestbook.
HGPig - 11/24/99 22:01:36
Comments:
***NEW INFO**** By combining 7 egg whites, flour, coco powder, sugar, and water you can make brownies on your face. I know, chocolate causes acne you say. Well, science has proven that the ingestion of chocolate does NOT cause acne, so neither will thi
. Or, create your own dessert, ice cream sundae on your back, be cretive. HGPig.
Dont forget the side-effekts! - 11/24/99 21:45:28
My URL:http://homepages.iol.ie/~grantsu/
Comments:
We have seen messages from many people on this webboard having psychiatric side-effects from Accutane. Here is more info:http://homepages.iol.ie/~grantsu/
spunky - 11/24/99 20:28:58
Comments:
go for it
- 11/24/99 20:12:36
My Email:user667@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Comments:
hey spunky, ive got aol, if i see you on can i im you?
Pam - 11/24/99 19:54:47
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
HI RENE (28)...I don't actually know exactly when my course will be over...I need to schedule another derm appointment so we can review it...currently 20mg/day...nearly finished Box 9...(each box = 60 x 20mg capsules)...my derm suggested that when I felt
eady I could drop down to 20mg 3 x week...I imagine that Box 10 will be the last one I take...and if I take it at a rate of 20mg 3 x weekly it will take me another 20 weeks to finish the final box!!!
TO STEVE (17) I had my absolute worst breakout at month 4/5 on Roaccutane...and my skin looks fantastic today...so please don't get too disheartened...
TO ALEXIA (15) I do use a facial scrub about 3 x week on Roaccutane...(mixing it with Cetaphil to make it even gentler)...but I am also on very low doses of Roaccutane...so my skin is not overly sensitive...when I was on higher doses...in the early stages
of treatment...my skin was far more easily irritated...and I couldn't use anything except for Cetaphil and sunscreen...WAXING AND PLUCKING has been more painful for me on Roaccutane...the skin just seems to wound far more easily...one thing that I've foun
really helps is using Aloe Vera Gel immediately after waxing...it's dynamite at soothing the red and inflamed areas...
ANOTHER PRODUCT I've recently discovered (and love!) is the Body Shop Hemp Hand Protector for Dry to Very Dry Skin...it's a bit 'greasy' but it's 'magic' for those really dry areas...hands...elbows...knees...feet...at night I slather it over my hands and
eet...then put cotton gloves and socks on over the top...not the most glamourous look in the world...but hey...it works!!!
TO COURTNEY (almost 12)...yes everyone at this site does have a different experience using Roaccutane...and different opinions...honey I can't tell you what you should do...or whether you should use Roaccutane...I can only tell you that the side-effects h
ve not been too bad for me because I've been on low doses (20mg/day)...all I can suggest is that you get really informed before you make a decision...keep coming back to this site...and ask your doc or your derm TONNES of questions...if there's something
ou don't understand...ask them to explain it again...sorry I can't be anymore help than this...
warm and fuzzies to everyone!!!
To spunky - 11/24/99 18:15:52
Comments:
Your comments are insane. Stop telling us what to do and leave already. This is an acne forum. You are obviously an upset and deluded individual who is not capable of posting positive or helpful information. Please do us all a favor and stop.
Shawn - 11/24/99 17:50:19
My Email:googaboo@uswest.net
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
Hi RENE: Yeah, I guess I forgot to add that HG PIG seems to possess the symptoms of a schitzophrenic (sp?). My daughter's going to be 5 in 3 weeks. She's so excited. You know I wish I had pictures to post. Maybe I'll see about a scanner. I'm happy f
r you! Isn't it fantastic to not have to worry about waking up in the morning and having a mountain on your face? I'm still in the "inspection" stage, just to make myself feel better. Will be back!
Rene - 11/24/99 17:41:41
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
HI PAM/32 - When will you be done with your treatment? I am in the 14th wk and wondering who will end first and what our complexions will look like once the accutane is out of our system...HI SHAWN - How old is your daughter? Mine is 7 yrs old. ANYWAYs
..about HgPIG yes HgPIG has provided useful information but I feel there is definitely a few differentl personalities that appear from that person. He/She defends himself in third party...He posts about how much he has helped. Sometimes the best thing t
do is just let your advice help people and don't toot your own horn. We have to remember that Spunky is a young man with acne,hormones,stress and he's in love. Spunky give us all credit that we will not take what we read by HgPIG or anyone as how to li
e our lives. This is just another means of communication - true answers reside within the medical community and we all have derm.'s to ask questions from. Everyone posts their personal experiences in hope to help others - we all have to remember we are
ll different and our bodies react to products, environment differently. Again week 14th...no new pimples on jawline, on menstral and NO NEW breakouts which is amazing for a woman with an acne problem. Still exfoliating every other day with St. Ives Apri
ot Scrub and I use Cetaphil every morning. I hope everyone has a GREAT THANKSGIVING!! Rene
Shawn - 11/24/99 16:47:54
My Email:googaboo@uswest.net
Gender: Feeeem-aaale
Age: 24
Comments:
WEEK 4 of Accutane treatment -- Wow, squabble, squabble, squabble. I can't tell you how utterly amused I am with all the arguing going on. I think that SPUNKY, you are a 17 year old kid, in love, want to tell everyone about it, suffering with the fact t
at you were once this stud and now feel like this pimply little nerd who doesn't deserve his flawless drop dead girly girl. Well, let me tell you hon, I was this drop dead girly girl once myself -- dated surfers with gorgeous bodies and gorgeous tans, gu
's with brains and looks and cars, football players, wrestlers, bodybuilders (of course now I'm married to one) etc., etc., etc. I used to "brag" too. I don't mean that as an insult -- I understand that it makes you feel better to share it with everybod
. I also understand what a blow it is to suddenly have the gift of beauty taken away from you. I'm not ghastly by any means -- I still can turn heads left and right if I wanted to, but I know there's a difference now. And as all of us here know, we are
our worst judge (I forgot who said that but it is such a true statement) and we just want to have clear skin and fit in and be like we used to be. I really think you have helped people here with your goat soap suggestions, BUT, and I stress BUT, HG PIG h
s also helped people too. Yeah he may not be a scientist, but none of us here are. And if HG PIG is getting grief for giving HIS advice, then every single one of us here should be getting abuse as well. Now how absurd does that sound? Now HG PIG, whil
you are obviously more mature and obviously older than our other counterpart here, I do have to say that while you have handled all this tactfully, English would be nice when posting replys, although only 25% of them are in greek. Since we don't know yo
or your background, it does cause a question of credibility at times, but otherwise I think that your information is both valuable and informative (when I can understand it). Anyone else here agree with my opinions of these two? Please acknowledge -- t
anks. Anyway, today I have no new blemishes, very awesome. No dry lips (yeah!), and my hair, well, I think it's thinning. I haven't noticed any unusual hair falling out or anything and believe me I have been watching that carefully. I just think that
aybe, because I don't have any of the essential oils in my body that transfers to my hair, my hair seems more limp, thus looking as if it's thinner. Anyone think that's a good judgement? And to COURTNEY -- you are at the age when I took my first dose of
Accutane. Let me tell you something, it was the best thing my parents could have ever done for me. It cleared up my acne on my face, chest and back for 5 years! Of course I'm here in this forum obviously because I have it again, but the good news is it
cleared my chest and back permanently! I was able to wear sexy clothes and still do wear sexy clothes! I say go for it! To CATHERINE -- I saw that you are taking a second course of Accutane and wanted someone who is also on their second course to respo
d. I'm into WEEK 4 and I'm so glad I decided to take it again. As far as your liver goes, just keep up with your blood work and listen very carefully to your doctor. They will tell you if anything is wrong, but to defeat this once and for all, you will
be doing yourself and your emotions a favor by giving it one last (let's hope for us all on round 2!)go at it. GOOD LUCK! Well, I have to tend to my daughter for a bit, but I'll be back.
Catherine - 11/24/99 15:15:35
My Email:oglepants@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 24
Comments:
I'm new to this message board thing and I need some advice! In a nutshell, like most of you guys I've been plagued by the zitty bastards (excuse the language but it is necessary!) for 10 years. I went to the doctor pretty soon after they started gettig ba
and was told "you'll grow out of it" What a joke!! I began to pester my doctor and over the course of many years was given loads and loads of lotions, washes, creams...then 3 different sorts of antibiotics each taken for a long course (I was on Minocycl
ne MR for 2 years!)
then Dianette (still on it).Finally I got referred to a Dermotologist, had all the blood tests and started roaccutane Jan 98. I finished the course (20mg 3 times a day for 6 months...the full dose)in june 98 and they had STILL not totally gone....I finall
became zit free (yes, free!) in august 98!! I remained free for exactly 12 months and yup, you've guessed it they returned!! After all the dry skin, eyes, cracked sore lips and eczema I suffered (and I SUFFERED!)
it seemed that the whole thing was a total waste of time!! So back to the doctors I went, a new one this time...and she put me back on roaccutane!!! I was unsure at firt as I really wasn't looking forward to all those side effects again but I've been taki
g 20mg twice a day now and they got worse at first, now they're slowly getting better.
Has anyone had to take 2 couses or know anyone who has?? If so how long was the second course for and will my liver ever recover!!?? My doctor literally threw the prescription at me and said "come back when you run out" (she's very busy and obviously thin
s I'm stupid whinging about a few spots.....they're huge cysts and hurt like hell actually!) So basically I'd love some reassurance about this cos I'm scared I'll be on this stuff for life!
Thanks for reading this...hope you didn't fall asleep half way through!
Write back with any advice you have..or just a chat!!
Thanks
Catherine
spunky - 11/24/99 14:59:30
Comments:
actually, I just got a good idea to PROVE a whole lotta shit ok?? if anyone has AOL, my SN is pulley831 ok??? YOu can check my online time and see when I post ok?? I never come on the net except to see this stupid board though. Seriously though, this b
ard has said soooo many wrong things the last couple of months or so.. it's pathetic. Just stop listening to people on here (including me, since no on ever seems to believe me) and go to a derm ok?? they know everything for sure.. not us. just go get
acne cured b4 it gets out of hand. That's all I care about because I know how horrible this disease is. God bless and good luck. P.S- HGPig, I really hope you leave, stop putting up BS info, useless trivia, no email, no name, posting as different
people, manipulating people, just leave evryone alone... get a life, and a heart.
spunky - 11/24/99 14:29:09
Comments:
it's obvious that you all have lost my trust so I have an idea ok??? (this is the rael one.. bret anthiny hedges) ok, look. I introduced goat soap.. gave some helpful advice, was really nice to SOME people... and that's all I can do. I have a solut
on ok???? don't listen to me. seriously, don't listen to this board. Listen to your dermatalogist ok?? he knows more than I, HGPig or anyone. I honestly just want everyone's skin to clear up. That's all I've asked for in the beginning. I"m not telli
g everyone to listen to me ok??? But please, don't listen to HGPig, he isn't a dermatalogist, he'll never be one, he never posts his email, his real name, his STUPID, USELESS information, or anything. It's obvious he's totally fake. So that's my reques
, don't listen to him, don't listen to me, just listen to your derm. He's the professional, I'm sick of seeing HGPig stress everyone out, he's just a useless little sap. Like I said, If u ever want to talk you can email me or call me (email me for the #
. HGPig.. I'm speechless. YOu stoop so low. Get a life, everyone else, just leave this board. Go get real help. Nobody here knows a fucking thing. bye
bryan - 11/24/99 14:23:03
My Email:bryan7lim@netscape.net
Comments:
SKIN DISORDERS : RASH???
i almost done my sixth months, but starts to get quite a few rash-like spots on different places of the body. before only the hands. so, normal? any remedies?
any feedback welcomed. mail me pleased : )
spunky - 11/24/99 14:20:38
My Email:spunky695@yahoo.com
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
OK. This site is TOTALLY fucked up now. THIS IS THE REAL SPUNKY!! who the hell has been posting that shit about HGPig???? it as awesome.. I LOVE IT. LOL... I know I said that I wouldn't post but I got so giddy reading all these posts. I SWEAR TO GOD
that was not me down below there. but whoever it is.. please keep it up. AS for me (the real one). No new spots, went to the beach yesterday and I saw amber this morning (can't see her anymore until thanksgiving). TO YOU PEOPLE THAT POST AS ME!!!!!! P
EASE STOP. please. You guys are seriously screwing this up. Please don't post as me ok???? thank you, we can beat this HGPig queer, but we need more voices ok?? post your email so we have proof. adrian anthony
alexia - 11/24/99 13:47:04
My Email:cultvamp@yahoo.com
Gender: female
Age: 15
Comments:
i have been on roaccutane for 3 days 25mg a day i have a couple of qs . first of all how long does it take to see results at this low dose with a mildto medium problem?
Should you continue to use topical lotions such as dalacin and diffrin while on roaccutane and if so how much?
Does anyone have really itchy forheafd after theyt take the tablets?
can you exfoliate while on accutane?
when is the beest time to take it with milk or water?
does it reduce scarring?
how about blackheads?
what make up is best and most gentle while on accutane?
is it safe to pluck eyebrows as i hear it is not ok to wax your legs?
please email me if anyone has any answers thank you so much.cultvamp@yahoo.com
Courtney - 11/24/99 12:52:37
My Email:coulinjo@eon.net.au
Gender: female
Age: almost 12
Comments:
I have had acne for 6 months now and I HATE IT!!!! No-one else has any spots at all and everyone stares. My friends don't mind but I am sick of it all. My Mum took me to the doctor and I have tried erryacne, differin, and otc creams. NOTHING has worked
and they're getting worse. My Mum asked about roaccutane but everyone says I'm too young. I'm 156cms and 46 kgs and am well into puberty. Is roaccutane worth it? Will I be able to face everyone after? Are the side effects too awful to consider? Ever
one on this site seems to have a different opinion and experience. What shall I do? I'm so miserable.
Steve - 11/24/99 12:51:15
My Email:makedon_vmro@hotmail.com
Age: 17
Comments:
I'm in my fifth month of Accutane, and I'm still breaking out on a daily basis. I'm getting bery frustrated. I'm currently alternating daily with 40mg and 80mg the next. I told everyone that by October it would be gone, yet I'm heading to December just
as bad as I went in. I have had no side-effects, and yet my dermatologist decided to keep on the same dosage. No, this is enough, I want it to go away. Someone write to me before I go my dermatologist and break her legs. This sucks!
BY THE WAY - 11/24/99 12:26:34
Comments:
the post directly below me is a joke i hope no one listens to it, hgpig that is not funny
HGPig - 11/24/99 12:24:05
Comments:
azelex cream twice daily swallow large amounts of water in 20% of people this caused severe diarreah and in .008% it caused brain dysfunction. to avoid complications, drink liquid plumber after every application.
yangas - 11/24/99 11:18:52
My Email:bulls_43@hotmail.com
Age: 17
Comments:
Hi everyone i am currenty on roacutane and have been on it for 11 weeks now i did go through a break out peroid at week 5 now all the bad pimples have gone away the only major problem is red spots or scarring, these sometimes are really bad flar up and so
etimes are ok. but i can't stand this red spots its drivin me crazy pla someone help me what can i use to help heal or help this !!!!!!!!!!!!! the period when i broke out had to the set of scarring, ppl say time they will fade is they anything else that c
n help this heal faster, i also heard that sun is bad for it as well. PLZ SOMEONE EMAIL ME AND HELP.god bless Email me at bulls_43@hotmail.com
Yangas - 11/24/99 11:17:24
My Email:bulls_43@hotmail.com
Age: 17
Comments:
Hi everyone i am currenty on roacutane and have been on it for 11 weeks now
i did go through a break out peroid at week 5 now all the bad pimples have gone away the only major problem is red spots or scarring, these sometimes are really bad flar up and sometimes are ok.
but i can't stand this red spots its drivin me crazy pla someone help me what can i use to help heal or help this !!!!!!!!!!!!! the period when i broke out had to the set of scarring, ppl say time they will fade is they anything else that can help this he
l faster, i also heard that sun is bad for it as well. PLZ SOMEONE EMAIL ME AND HELP.god bless
- 11/24/99 10:21:13
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Comments:
Just some handy conversions:
0 deg Celsius = 32 deg Fahrenheit
1 deg Celsius = 33.8 deg F, i.e. add 1.8
Formula: deg F = 32 + (1.8 x deg C)
1 kg = 2.2 pounds (lb)
1 lb = 0.45 kg
Hey SPUNKY, it's P A R A M E T E R S, "And I consider myself very well educated (I go to trinity preparatory school thank you very much)"
Hmmmm?
Don't take offence, I'm only shit-stirring; and another thing, there's no way you can leave this site. You're addicted just like me and most of us here. We all like to read about other people's problems hoping we can say to ourselves, "well things aren't
o bad after all." Maybe, maybe not.
To everyone; don't touch your face with your hands. No picking or popping whatsoever, and that's an order.
Oh and to LILY: it IS possible to die from picking pimples. What if you're picking at your face with both hands and your little brother comes in and whacks you one in the stomach and you die from complications? Huh? Your hands weren't ready to defend your
elf 'cause you were picking? Just kidding. Who the (acronym for one of Van Halen's albums) told you this anyway?
Nonetheless, don't pick.
TO ANYONE not knowing what to do. Pick up that phone and call your doctor. Demand an appointment with a skin specialist. Demand assurance that you are doing the best you can do for your skin without compromising the rest of your health too much. Demand he
p. You must search for the professionals who are willing to help.
Later.
Nadia - 11/24/99 08:33:44
Age: 27
Comments:
Started The wonder drug about 3 weeks ago have noticed an increase in the awful ugly beasts. I'm really hoping that the Accutaine will work. Anyone else had this experience? Also my cholesterol level is up about 40 points after this short of a time. I am
eg so this is quite a mystery, anyone with similar problems?
jasmine - 11/24/99 08:11:52
Age: 19
Comments:
hey people,its me.i just went to my derm today and he told me not to use any moisturiser,toner and cleanser containing any acids.He says it will make my face even redder but it is ok to use it after treatment.I am very worried abt the redness on my face.P
ople stare as if i am some kinda freak.Does anyone knows when the redness will go away?Does it stay throughout the whole treatment?
thanks and all the best!Hope u are going well with accutane!
Rini - to Itchy - 11/24/99 07:17:29
My Email:missrini@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 26
Comments:
Itchy, I dont think it is the new brand you are using. I do not use "roaccutane" myself, but I use "oratane"....both are the drug accutane, just different brand names. If you are not sure though, I think you should call your Doctor to double check the i
gredients. I am on my 4th week of Oratane and my face was great, until now it seems to have decided it no longer needs skin!! I am peeling far WORSE than my first week (and I thought that was bad). I think you will just go up and down on this drug for a
while before any lasting improvement is seen. Good luck and keep smiling :)
Nikolai....your site does not have any information or resources other than telling us to buy a miracle acne cure that only takes one week to work and is WAY overpriced (send cash? I dont think so!) But it was a nice try :) I am happy for you that you ar
"cured"
ITCHY! - 11/24/99 06:51:18
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Comments:
Please someone help me! I'm on my fifth week, and all was going well- until last night. My skin was improving just fine and then it went all itchy and red all of a sudden. The only thing in my skin routine that has changed is that my chemist gave me ACCU
URE instead of ROACCUTANE. She said they were exactly the same- just made by different companies. I've never heard anyone here mention ACCUCURE before- has anyone tried it? Was it better/worse/same as ROACCUTANE? Thanks!
Nikolai - 11/24/99 06:47:57
My URL:http://acne.virtualave.net
My Email:spaser@mail.ru
Gender: male
Age: 19
Comments:
Check this site!
http://acne.virtualave.net
Great resource!
silena - 11/24/99 05:56:50
Comments:
HGPig... Azelex cream... is that prescription only? Is there anything I can make myself with ingredients from my Chemistry Dept.'s stockroom?
silena - 11/24/99 05:53:35
My Email:silena100@hotmail.com
Gender: muscle girl
Age: 25
Comments:
Hi all... I've just spent the last hour reading and catching up on all that I've missed the last few days. *SIGH* Okay, on the count of three, let's all grow up. One... two... THREE! There! We are all grown up! WOW! That means no more bickering and
ulgar language! Hooray! Doesn't it feel good to be all grown up and mature? PEACE!!!
Kat - 11/24/99 05:44:09
Age: 32
Comments:
Hi all,
new to this msg board. A fellow sufferer here. New to accutane Hope it works!
Reply to KRISTIN-Im a nurse and too much vit. A can be lethal because it is a fat soluble vitamin, basically it builds up in your blood stream. Its not like Vit c- which you can take lots of and it passes out your body. DONT overdo the Vitamin A-serio
s health probs. Talk to your Dr. Also dont take vit A if on Accutane. Hope this helps. God bless all.
Angie - 11/24/99 05:09:37
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
SPUNKY: Don't leave this site. Keep Believing. I think everyone that logs on knows that the things that you say that sometimes cross the line are do the high amount of stress you must have. I think we have all be there and deal with in in different wa
s!!! ANGIE 22 - Congrats! You go girl. MYSELF: Tired of getting zits on my jaw line and I really hope that the Accutane can take away the 10 to 12 scars I have on my face. Does anyone believe that can happen, has anyone seen it happen? To my fe
low acne sufferers; God Bless
Angie - 11/24/99 05:06:23
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Angie - 11/24/99 05:06:22
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Amy - 11/24/99 04:53:35
Gender: girl
Age: 22
Comments:
To Spunky, If you have access to a Dictionary maybe you could look up the meaning to following words: Nice, quiet, mature, supportive, helpful, friendly, thoughtful, respectful, confidence, happy, libido, and then maybe look up the definitions to the fol
owing: resentful, domineering, angry, idiot, selfish, loser, sad, immature, thoughtless, libel.
kristin - 11/24/99 04:05:39
Comments:
lots of hostility out there, mellow out boys! thanks bob @ the vitamin A info. so the next question which must have been asked previously is "will taking lots of REAL vitamin A do what accutane does?" anyone know anything about that? Shawn if your nos
is dry inside try using some sesame oil (not the cooking kind but cosmetic kind)inside. so i torn over whether to take accutane which is such a chemical or try and find a cure the herbal-natural way. I think i'm a bit freaked on all these chemicals we'
e putting into or on ourselves. does it make sense to do just natural stuff till my next derm appt (6 weeks)
and if my skin isn't good then go the accutane route. so frustrating. and by the way, i'm no priss or prude, but i must say the language around here of late has been pretty obnoxious. love to all.
Denny - 11/24/99 03:58:48
Gender: male
Age: 25
Comments:
Hi
Thaks for the words, nick. I am a recluse who is afraid to go out at anytime. I am so depressed about my acne that I have secluded myself inside, rationalizing it by sayin that I am saving my face from the harsh outside world (particles in air, sunlight,
omeone starin gat the pits in my face)
Have a good holiday everyone, while I sit hear and think about how time bends the knees of us all, and how miserable i am,. verything sucks, zits are forever, so is SCARRING. im a nold geezer wiht bad complexion.NOTYHING helps: not the Retina (or as i lik
to call it RED'NA, not the other opuorus shit we smear on our faces.the accutane ?yea it worked...for about a year.
heres to another lonely weekend from a kid with ALOT of red marks on his face!
-Denny
GW - 11/24/99 01:35:58
Comments:
Your post was great Nick, keep it up. And yeah, I've noticed that about the sun as well. Is it just me or have I noticed that my skin always looks a but better in summer. WE NEED TO CLEAR THIS UP PEOPLE.........there is a common perception among people
that sun actually helps acne and scarring. Is this true???? Of course, in Australia and coming up to summer it would be nice to know this becasue we frequently have days/weeks on end upwards of 35 degrees. (I don't know what that is in faranheight(Sp???)
br>
IF....................IF - 11/24/99 01:04:44
Comments:
IF he's praising himself, he sure is praising most of the dermatologists and specialists and nearly 100% of the researchers in this field. Thanks.
Don't listen to him he only AGREES - 11/24/99 01:00:09
Comments:
Then are we NOT going to listen to our specialists who ALSO recommend topical products such as Retin-A gels and creams, mild cleansers, accutane (as needed), Azelec cream, etc,??
Nick - acne scarring - 11/24/99 00:54:50
My Email:n.heppleston@uea.ac.uk
Gender: male
Age: 21
Comments:
famous people and scarring - ever seen Posh Spice (sorry, Victoria Beckham) in the wrong light???
Nick
Nick - to Denny and people who are feeling generally crap about it all. - 11/24/99 00:52:20
My Email:N.Heppleston@uea.ac.uk
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Comments:
This message goes primarily to denny, but to anyone else who is feeling generally shitty right now becuase of the delightful affliction that we all seem to be cursed with.
I often feel like shit because of my skin, but it does and will get better. i often refuse to go out of the house because (i know this is completely untrue but its the way i feel sometimes) i don't want to make other people look at my skin. don't know wha
i'm worried about, i often (v. stupidly) think that people will vomit at the sight of my skin , and why is it you only ever get it on your face, i would give anything to have it anywhere else other than my face.
and then when it comes to lasses or lads (or what ever tajkes your fancy) how many times would you like to talk to that someone but can't because all you think they are seeing is your acne and not you? i went to see a counsellor about it ('cos i became ve
y depressed last year) and he told me that he hadn't actually seen my acne until i started to talk about it - and maybe thats how it works, but then again, when i see others with acne i do say to myself that it ain't too attractive. what does that say ab
ut me eh?
one final point, i'm interested to know how people in sunny parts of the world fair. i live in england, and whenever i go on holiday to somewhere sunny (not Scarborough or Blackpool) my skin always starts to clear. does this happen for people who live per
anently in sunny areas (well, i donb't suppose you'd be reading this board if it were the case - doh!).
keep eating those apples, i'll keep you all posted on the progress.
hold your heads up high everyone, just think what a better place it would be if we were all standing out as loud and proud as we would like to be???
Nick
GW to spuckfuck - 11/24/99 00:50:46
Comments:
Why don't you just fuck off back to your little hole in Daytona or whereever it is the fuck you are from. No-one wants to hear from you and this is GW not the PIG. So just go and fuck Amber up the arse or do something constructive for the community, if
ou can call that little hole a community.
GW on acne scarring - 11/24/99 00:47:13
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
I think acne scarring is quite common amongst the general population. Its not that much of a big thing, I mean even some Hollywood actors have acne scarring. That's because its such a common disease really. Fell free to reply anyone.
spunky - 11/24/99 00:43:50
Comments:
hey to all those praising hgpig if its really anyone other than hgpig himself, i could post as hgpig or anyone else if i wanted to, i could post under any number of names, how do we know this guy isnt praising himslef???? you dont and if you listen to hi
its your loss.
Further to the braindead cockspankers - 11/24/99 00:42:34
Comments:
They make a small minority (albeit loud) of this website and most people think the "Pig Posts" are informative exept fo these little mutant dickheads.
GW - to HGPIG - 11/24/99 00:37:02
Comments:
Don't listen to these half-wits, they are just ignorant, uneducated little braindead cockspankers. Anyway, I have two follow up statements about the red marks**********Did you mean to use these products to help fade them or just to conceal them? Secondl
, it is right to say that at the end of the day time is the best medicine for them, am I right?***********************************And just to stuff up your day, a quote from an Australian paper this morning (24-11) from Greg Norman: "I believe there are
ore better players coming out of Australia now than America." True quote, check for yourself............
Thanks Again HGPig - 11/24/99 00:26:45
Comments:
Thank you for BOTH their brand names also...Renova, Azelex, Retin-A, Ortho-Renova, Dove, Lever 2000, Science Labs Brand Name Protein Drink, lima beans, milk,. Thanks I read. I guess according to those earlier, that are really doing the work, that these on
y a chemist knows. Milk the chemical.
Glad HGPig was there - 11/24/99 00:20:42
Comments:
Glad HG Pig was there trying to give some real answers to help the red marks with Azelex 20% to GW and others. I see he named Azelex, Renova, Retin-A, Accutane, Roc, Dove Soap, Lever 2000, by there brand names numerouis times here. Thanks for your balance
HGPig, providing brand names to those that desire them, and scientific name to those that wish also. The person who claims the "chemist" and to read all the archive posts? Did you read where he posted the brand names? Or was all your reading "selective",
nd I wonder why?
Glad HGPig was there - 11/24/99 00:13:42
Comments:
Glad HGPig was there helping Shawn with suggestions on Protein Drink. Where's his cut-and- paste boys? And where's the "chemist" boys? And who else besides Selina and HGPig answered Shawn on this one? Can you name any?
Glad the He was there.... - 11/24/99 00:07:00
Comments:
Glad that HGPig was there backing up Angie when she really needed it, supporting her and others here with direct documentation. And backing up personnal experience with documentation. Who were the others here providing Angie with help and encouragement b
fore her appointment on Moday? Can you name some?
TO Danny - 11/23/99 23:44:01
Comments:
Danny, look back at some of the documentation that HGPig has provided. He answers questions backed by scientific studies. Like Angie, you might need to go back on a second and third course of Accutane. Check with your specialist. Your part of our family h
re and greatly needed.
Steve - To: spunky (a.k.a. regarding hpig) - 11/23/99 23:23:06
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Comments:
Why would you further ruin this forum by using vulgarity expressing negativity. Do you have any respect at all for the other members of this forum? Are you a little boy who just wants attention?
SA - 11/23/99 23:14:23
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Comments:
KYLIE and ALL thanks for sharing. I need an opinion. I have mild-moderate acne. Only on the face. Previously I used to get bumps and they went away gradually. None left any pigmentation or a scar. But they leave these brown spots, which are taking almost
-6 months to even fade away. And now they are like scattered aroud. so my face looks real smudgy than bumpy! So my derm recommends Acctane. Should I do it? Just don't want to mess up my body than it already is I guess, but am so much inclined to do it!
What about the nose-bleeds. Can anyone tell me if it happens like anytime or in the night. Also read that there could also be rectal bleeding. And does this go away once U stop Accutane? The dryness in the eyes? Am I just over reacting? Sorry don't mean
o scare anyone, but just worried that's all!
Thanks again guys. Talking to U all like this gives me some psychological courage.
Ben Gillies - 11/23/99 23:01:45
My URL:http://members.xoom.com/Sandman.html
My Email:sandman@triplej.com.au
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Comments:
Harsh words!
Geez, I wouldn't go that far in saying that HGPig is all that. II have to agree on some things this individual has said, because its pretty much true. HGPig stop trying to become a hero, just play it cool. No one expects you to be some chemist. By the sou
ds of it, you are starting to become disliked and possibly hated? My question i to you guys
Ive got about 5-6 sits all togther in one spot just below my ear, on the jaw line
what can i do to minimise it?
all the nest
ben
Regarding HGPig - 11/23/99 22:55:46
Gender: Who Cares
Age: 19-25
Comments:
Are you on some sort of superior level? At first I thought, well done, your giving it a dry! Now your just some cocky half twit boy who thinks he can as "spunky" said it so beautifully, CUT AND PASTE. I read all your posts, and its relatively funny becaus
most of your posts don't give answers, its like just a bulk of information. All you do is leave your half cocked answers. Who and hell do you fucking think you are? Some sort of miricle child? I doubt it, you a kid who wants to fuck around with medicine
nd is trying to get some sort of attention. Well sunshine, your far from that. Everyone thinks your skitz, crazy, and trying to make everyone feel less worthy because HGPig can CUT AND PASTE. Thats so hard to do. I read all the posts, upto and around Apri
99, so I have had a few months of reading up my sleve. There always seems to be a few people who share my belief that your a complete and utter fucktwit, but hay every man for themselves. DO IT SOME PLACE ELSE SPASTIC. Spunky, see it is these people that
think they are better than us, but literally, they might be. But realistically, he is some guy trying to get attention. HGPig I bet you have like no friends, because you always want to be the main person, superior to everyone else. Eat Shit and Die you co
ksucker
Steve - 11/23/99 22:34:49
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
Yes, thank you. Please post if you develop any pain because I think I am going to start taking it
and your experiences with the drug could be indicative of what I am likely to face. What are you going to do if you develop any joint pain. Will you attempt to ride it out. I want to make the decision now whether to persist if I have those type of problem
.
- 11/23/99 22:33:55
Comments:
Following twice daily applications for four weeks of an AHA formulation (Glycolic Acid, 8% cream, pH 4.4) and PHA (Gluconolactone, 8% cream, pH 4.3) treatment sites were patch-challenged with a common skin irritant Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (5%, aqueous) und
r occlusion for 6 hours. Barrier function of the skin was assessed during the 4 weeks of product usage and following SLS challenge (immediately, after 24 hours and after 48 hours) using Trans-Epidermal Water Loss (TEWL). Test product comparisons were made
against a Vehicle (VEH) and Untreated (UNT) control. Results indicate that skin sites treated with Gluconolactone exhibited statistically lower degrees of barrier dysfunction following SLS challenge in comparison to Glycolic Acid, vehicle and untreated si
es, p<0.05. Glycolic Acid was not different from Untreated.
J - 11/23/99 22:28:14
Gender: male
Age: 20
Comments:
To STeve: I can tell you from experience that I have experienced no joint pain at all in the 11 weeks that I have been on accutane. Like you, I weigh about 190 and am probably around 10 percent body fat. I usually lift 4-6 times a weeks and kickbox 2-3
times. This is quite a bit of activity and I haven't experienced any problems yet. Hope this comforts you in some way.
Aaron - 11/23/99 22:15:15
Comments:
anyone else get acne down there?
spunky - 11/23/99 21:10:08
Comments:
ha ha i lied here i am
Pam - 11/23/99 20:48:29
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
RE: SIDE-EFFECTS...I have been taking Roaccutane for twelve months now (using lower doses over an extended period to manage elevated cholesterol) and under this regime...side-effects have been negligible...the most serious one was the elevated cholesterol
..(because I have a strong family history of heart disease)...however...regular blood tests have allowed early detection, intervention and treatment of this problem. Consequently, I am actually healthier now than when I first commenced treatment with Roac
utane. Modifying my diet and reducing my intake of animal fats has also caused me to lose some weight which has been great for my overall health.
Certainly Roaccutane has the potential to cause some undesirable side-effects...but so do many other readily available substances. Even the humble paracetamol (which most of us will take without a second thought) is potentially hepatoxic. Alcohol and nico
ine which are legal substances...and freely available to those of age...are potentially as serious (if not more so!) in terms of deleterious side-effects.
Personally...the side-effects I have experienced from Roaccutane have been very minor irritations...dry lips...dry eyes...very dry hands...and some rashes on my forearms...all easily treated with OTC preparations...(ROB: GLAD THE CETAPHIL IS WORKING FOR Y
U)...
My face looks fantastic...better than it has in over 15 years...and today...I am one very happy Roaccutane user...it will be interesting to see how my skin responds once I am off the drug...and I will continue to post updates...best of luck to you all...<
r>
Denny - 11/23/99 20:40:40
Gender: male
Age: 25
Comments:
I really enjoy this forum. First let me say that I have ALWAYS had acne prone skin. I was on Accutaen 50mg for a while and it WORKED. Now, unfortunately, the ZITS are back. NOw the ones I get are deep, though not as numerous as before.
With every zit comes a scar tha twill be permanent, or at least take ten months to fade..god im so miserable. yea looks aren't eveything, tell that to a kkid with pits on his face. No, wait im not a kid im 25, im old right? Soory if im blabbling here im j
st lonely and miserable. I really have thought about ending it all and i just might do it. everything sucks. there is no remedy for zits, they are to damn persistent resilient bnuggers. happy holidays to all while I suffer in my quiet desperation living a
lonely life while getting an ulcer!
Shawn - 11/23/99 19:00:07
My Email:googaboo@uswest.net
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
DAY ? (lost count), but WEEK 4 of Accutane treatment -- OK. Have had a REAL CRAPPY couple of days. I was informed by my employer that they have been forced to make cutbacks and wont be able to make payroll completely so this JUST SUCKS!!! Right before
he holidays too and I have a little girl who's asking for the world and I can't do SHIT! Well, at least I don't have any new blemishes so HURRAH for that, huh!? Anyway, progressing well. Received a call from my doc last night letting me know that my bl
od tests came back good. And I had my first bloody noses over the weekend. Saturday and Sunday. I used to get then as a kid and I remember my doctor saying put Vaseline inside of your nose to coat the sides and this prevents it. I don't know, it worke
for me. Skin is improving though. Funny thing about these blemishes though. They were cysts (painful to the touch) for one week, still a little bumpy for another week, then just came to a head yesterday. Do any of you feel as though they stick around
just a bit longer than before? Well, cool thing is they go away fast, at least for me. PIG: I think you right when you say that the reason that they are much redder is because the layer of skin is not as thick as before. I believe that to be true. Ot
er than that, my lips are back to normal as I have been pounding the lip balm on them. Also, KERRI and BROOKS, email me to my new address -- I left my messages on my other computer at work and didn't bring your addresses home -- sorry. Anyway, I'm stuck
in a rut as to what I will do for insurance for a month because now my new employer can't start me until January 1. Ugh! SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS!!! OK, my frustrations are out.......since there's snow on the ground (about 2 feet - packed) maybe I'll go snowb
arding for a while since my daughter's at pre-school. Ciao!
- 11/23/99 18:28:53
Gender: female
Age: 27
Comments:
To the 20 year old female who asked about is it worth it
to go on Accutaine and its side effects for moderate to mild acne. Yes Yes Yes! I am in the same situation as you. My acne always looked worse because I picked at it. I have been on 80mg for just about 3 months and my face is clear. I can go with out
makeup if I want. I have nothing to pick at. But warning if you do go on you absolutly can't pick your face becaue you scar 10 times worse. If you are healthy and your derm recomends you go on. Go for it. My skin looks great! My side effects are basi
ally gone except for dry lips and skin. Good Luck and it isn't as bad as you might have heard. Everyone's situation is different.
victory!!!! - 11/23/99 18:13:47
My Email:@@
Gender: woman
Age: 30
Comments:
Hello everybody out there, with or without acne.
One thing yoy have to learn instead of just worrying about your skin or red marks is how to regain or build up confidence about yourselves. When you are getting a bit older you will realize that your looks isn`t everything in life. And if you don`t get th
s you will probably ending up as a bitter and bored human being. I work with people who have aids and they would be happy if they could change their lives and have acne instead of the disease they have. I know how it feels to have a bad skin especially wh
n you are a girl and everybody else seems to have perfect skin so therefor I recomend everybody to use whatever medication that is available for the cause of getting rid of acne. All I wanted to say is that during the time of getting acne-free try to deve
op yourselves as persons. You are not a looser or a failure because of your acne instead you are often a better person cause you have learned to feel empathy and how it is to feel bad.
Bob Topps - 11/23/99 17:59:53
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
Re:Food and Acne: Sure dermys will tell you that outside influences do noit affect acne. whaty happens to refined sugar when you eat it? It goe sinside you. SURE acne is an internal problem at the core..that is why food affets it people..
Kristin: Accutane is a form of synthetic Vitamin A. what Roche (the pharmaceutical co. that produces it) did was change the molecualr structure of Vitamin A just enogugh so that they could patent it and make $..
Ginko Biloba..HGpig your thoughts?
fungal infections w/ on Minocin.
good LUCK!
victory!!!! - 11/23/99 17:59:40
Comments:
Steve - Food and Stuff - 11/23/99 15:35:13
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
Background: 195 lbs., 7.0% body fat, non-vegetarian male. I have had persistent mild to moderate acne since I was fourteen. I have used every type of treatment except accutane which I currently have a six month supply of sitting in my medicine cabinet. I
m an athlete (run/lift) and I usually go six on and one off. My current regiment: morning - wash with J&J continuous control BP face wash, evening - wash with cetaphil and then apply differin gel before going to bed. I used to use antibacterial cleanser
ut I think that it actually started to encourage acne to develop. I have not been able to successfully correlate specific food intake with the development of acne, and I have tried. I avoided refined sugar believing that it promoted bacteria growth. I avo
ded red meat believing that its androgen content promoted sebaceous gland activity. In both cases I developed bad outbreaks.
I think that it is easy to make the correlation(spuriously of course) between acne and food because you eat something, develop acne right after and then if the food you ate was not absolutely healthful you attribute it as the cause. My dermie who is prett
up to date with current research says that there is little evidence to suggest a causal link which is the only thing that means anything. Weak correlations between food and acne do not hold up to scrutiny.
I have a question. When did this forum deteriorate to the point that one individual would say to another "you really are a piece of trash"? I personally enjoy Mr. HGP posts. Even though I am skeptical of his "experiment" I find many of his posts to be va
id and to the point. The reason for this is that I am an educated individual and can come to my own conclusions. So what if a piece of information which some one posts is "cut and pasted". I think that I have seen similar conclusions drawn within the NEJM
If you disagree with a piece of info presented here then don't believe it. It is as simple as that. Belittling some one and degrading them publically is the last thing that anyone in this forum needs. If I responded to everything that I thought was crap
hen I would be a constantly occupied, angry and bitter man.
But I digress, back to acne. I am tentative to use accutane mainly because I fear the now proven risk of joint deterioration. I would never forgive myself if I took this drug and screwed my body up for good. I am constantly in this forum so if anyone has
ny questions then feel free to post. I will do my best to answer them.
I have noticed that while using differin(this is my forth week) that I have more non-inflamed close d comedone acne and less of the opposite. I do seem to be improving somewhat, I think.
spunky - 11/23/99 14:14:29
Comments:
well, I know I've said this a lot.. so this is my very last post. You'll see. All I have to say is this. I'm 17, male, I surf, play baseball and race mountain bikes (a little motoX too). I consider (and many other girls) a very good looking guy who i
very nice when you get to know him but comes off rude and unsensitive. I love strungout, blink182, homegrown, the impossibles and the unsung zeros. wanna know why I hate this site??? All the lies and all the stress. I am so sick of hearing how every
ind of food hurts your acne and how this and that and this ant that. It's so much bullshit. HGPig, you know everything you say is BS and you've run a lot of informative people out of here. YOu really are a piece of trash. I am still on 40 mg and use g
at soap between 2 and 3 times daily. Good-bye, I'm sick of all the lies.
Karen - 11/23/99 13:57:52
Comments:
Spunky - you there?
spunky - 11/23/99 13:14:55
Comments:
HGPIG??? why don't u ever answer anyone's questions about yourself??? I can't believe everyone believes you. That's so pathetic. And whoever did post below.. I think is right in a way. You do just cut and paste this shit (I think) and no one really
ares. If u are on accutane then don't worry about food or anything else. trust me.. you'll thank me and apologize one day soon.
spunky - 11/23/99 13:06:34
Comments:
who the hell was that?? and for info, my mom is 41.. sorry. And to the rower below. I was an elite mountian bike racer for 4 years and I couldn't do it while on accutane. NOT because of the joint problems but my enduarance was SEVERLY reduced. After o
e lap at the world cup in canada I was SHOT. BUt it was almost winter anyway and it was time to hit the weight room so it wasn't a big deal. Good luck, you will never know how it effects you until you try it because some people react to it differently t
an others. (example: I haven't used vasoline for my lips in 4 weeks) Good luck.
spunky's mommy - 11/23/99 12:21:23
My Email:mom@mommasboy.com
Gender: female
Age: 48
Comments:
you people dont make fun of my spunky, he tries. he is right too. hgpig, what do you do cut and paste the crap you post, anyone can do that, or read their package inserts, woah big deal there. who cares? my son is great, listen to him.
To Bob Topps from HGPig: Subject Comp.Studies A Gels and Creams - 11/23/99 08:44:55
Comments:
I have edited this to shorten the reading task:^^^^^^^^Br J Dermatol 1998 Oct;139 Suppl 52:34-40
Comparative tolerance of adapalene 0.1% gel and six different tretinoin formulations.
Galvin SA, Gilbert R, Baker M, Guibal F, Tuley MR
TKL Research Inc., Paramus, New Jersey, USA.
Adapalene 0.1% gel (Differin gel) is a recently introduced topical treatment for mild to moderate acne which has been demonstrated to be much better tolerated and at least as effective as tretinoin 0.025% gel. We compared the tolerance of adapalene 0.1% g
l with six different formulations and concentrations of tretinoin. A total of 55 healthy human subjects were enrolled in two controlled, randomized, observer blinded, intraindividual comparison studies. In the first study, adapalene 0.1% gel was evaluated
for its 21-day cumulative irritation potential compared with tretinoin 0.025%, 0.05% and 0.1% cream, tretinoin 0.01% and 0.025% gel, and petrolatum (control). In the second study, adapalene 0.1% gel was evaluated for its 21-day cumulative irritation poten
ial compared with tretinoin 0.025%, 0.05% and 0.1% cream, tretinoin 0.1% gel microsphere, and petrolatum (control). In both studies, cumulative irritation scores helped to define three groups of common irritancy potential, with significant differences bet
een each group. In study A, the three groups were in descending order of irritancy: tretinoin 0.1% cream and tretinoin 0.05% cream; tretinoin 0.025% gel, tretinoin 0.01% gel and tretinoin 0.025% cream; adapalene 0.1% gel and petrolatum (control). In study
B, the three groups were in descending order of irritancy: tretinoin 0.1% cream; tretinoin 0.05% cream, tretinoin 0.025% cream and tretinoin 0.1% gel microsphere; adapalene 0.1% gel and petrolatum (control). The experimental results show that adapalene 0.
% gel is significantly better tolerated than any of six formulations of tretinoin, including two gels, three creams and a microsphere formulation, ranging in potency from 0.01% to 0.1%. ^^^^Best to you. HGPig (apologies to the board, will try to keep rep
ies short as posssible)
- 11/23/99 08:14:19
Comments:
HELLLLOOOO- anybody...accutane stops overly active sweat glands?
To Marnie: From HGPig a study.... - 11/23/99 08:03:36
Comments:
Dermatology 1997;195 Suppl 1:34-7; discussion 38-40 Related Articles
Oral isotretinoin treatment policy. Do we all agree?
Ortonne JP
Service de Dermatologie, Hopital de l'Archet, Nice, France.
A consensus meeting was held in Brussels in 1995 to review current oral isotretinoin (Roaccutane/Accutane) treatment policies among internationally renowned experts and to improve service to needy patients by proposing treatment guidelines based upon a re
iew of 1,000 acne patients who received this therapy. The group agreed that acne conditions warranting oral isotretinoin treatment include severe acne and poorly responsive acne which improves less than 50% after 6 months of therapy with combined oral and
topical antibiotics. Furthermore, acne which relapses, scars or induces consequential psychological distress should be treated with oral isotretinoin. Other indications are gram-negative folliculitis, inflammatory rosacea such as rhinophyma, pyoderma faci
le, acne fulminans and hidradenitis suppurativa. Treatment was usually initiated at a daily dose of 0.5 mg/kg (but may be higher) and increased to 1.0 mg/kg. Aiming at a total does of 120-150 mg/kg per treatment course treatment lasted 4-7 months dependin
upon daily doses. The same dosage guidelines were applied to repeated courses of oral isotretinoin therapy with no evidence of increased risk. Mucocutaneous side-effects were predictable; dose-dependent and systemic side-effects were rarely problematic.
cne patients gain immeasurable physical and emotional relief from isotretinoin treatment and society benefits from limiting bacterial resistance evolution and reducing health care costs.
To Steve.....and the baker - 11/23/99 07:35:37
Comments:
....and the baker says.."I don't carrot for you being in my refrigerator."
TO STEVE - 11/23/99 06:35:20
Comments:
LOOOOOOOOOSER!!!
steve hinklehopper - 11/23/99 06:32:49
My Email:i-ii@fingerpointer.com.uk
Gender: male
Age: 29
Comments:
hello? got a good bakery one. this baker right he gets up early in the morning and he goes to the bakery. he opens up his refridgertor and in the middle of his shelf theres a bunny rabbit just chillin. the bunny looks up at the baker and says hey what kin
of refridgerator is this. well the baker who of course is stuptefied says its a westinghouse but what are you doing in there. and the bunny says, im westing. you get it. westing. house. the bunny. in the refridgertor.
Marnie - 11/23/99 06:07:33
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Comments:
Hi..sorry tis me marnie again..
Just wondering..if roaccutane doesnt work for some reason
Would your acne get worse than it was before after you stop taking it?
Marnie hello HGPig - 11/23/99 05:58:49
Comments:
Scarring is one of the most important reasons for using Accutane/Roc. as a modality. This is well documented. This should be comprehensively reviewed with your specialist. Best to you. HGPig
- 11/23/99 05:56:50
Comments:
To GW from HGPig , Subject: The red marks - 11/23/99 05:54:17
Comments:
Atrophic redmarks, associated and common with acne. My personnal experience, I enjoy the Azelaic acid which is..."is a naturally occurring saturated dicarboxylic acid which, on topical application (usually as a 20% cream), has been shown to be effective
n the treatment of comedonal acne and inflammatory (papulopustular, nodular and nodulocystic) acne, as well as various cutaneous hyperpigmentary disorders characterised by hyperactive/abnormal melanocyte function, including melasma and, possibly, lentigo
aligna. In addition, azelaic acid has an antiproliferative and cytotoxic effect on the human malignant melanocyte, and preliminary findings indicate that it may arrest the progression of cutaneous malignant controlled melanoma. .....is likely to prove of
alue in the management of acne and several hyperpigmentary disorders, most notably melasma." Reference......From: Adis Drug Information Services, Auckland, New Zealand. So I like azelaic acid. (I would NEVER use cosmetic dermal ablation, I don't trust it
yet, and have most of the current research). AND I JUST REMEMBERED what I use for red mark cover...CABOT'S CREAM, which contains vit-E, a sunscreen, and is an excellent blender/camoufladge. I may post a diet (nutrient) note sometime later. So I like 1. Az
laic acid 2. Renova, amd 3. Calamine and Cabot Cream protection/ cover. Best to you. HG Pig.
Marnie - 11/23/99 05:53:46
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Comments:
Im thinking about going on roaccutane..my skin isnt that bad - I wouldnt say I have acne as such, but I have terrible habits of making pimples into scars and am sick of spending money on cosmetics..
People here who have tried it, do you think in my situation it is worth all the side effects??
For Jade the Rower - 11/23/99 05:33:26
Comments:
Jade, hello. I am a world class athlete (registered), rated, tested and registered. I have used Accutane enough to know that from experience, I felt no problems. Remember, you can use graduated doses. Your eyes in the morning will be sensitive, and probab
y sensitive to lights reflecting off water. So use the best eye protection possible. When starting on graduated doses, your body will most likely de-sensitize itself. Your skin will need protection also (sunscreen etc.,). I am absolutely sick of the "join
" worry hype. This can also be tested anyway with graduated dosage. You will still need blood test work-ups (periodically), to monitor tryglycerides, et., and to be approved for usage.
To Bob Topps, the Retin A-Gels, from HGPig - 11/23/99 05:20:30
Comments:
I dont't have studies on comparison between the gel and cream, however, here is a comparison of both Retin-A gels.^^^^^^^^^^^^^PMARTICLE_TITLEComparative efficacy and safety of two 0.025% tretinoin gels: results from a multicenter double-blind, parallel s
udy.PM_ARTICLE_TITLE
Lucky AW, Cullen SI, Jarratt MT, Quigley JW
Dermatology Research Associates, Cincinnati, Ohio 45230, USA...........
PMARTICLEABSTRACTBACKGROUND: The addition of polyolprepolymer-2 in tretinoin formulations may reduce tretinoin-induced cutaneous irritation. OBJECTIVE: This study compared the efficacy and safety of a new 0.025% tretinoin gel containing polyolprepolymer-2
its vehicle, and a commercially-available 0.025% tretinoin gel in patients with mild to moderate acne vulgaris. METHODS: In this 12-week multicenter, double-blind, parallel group study, efficacy was evaluated by objective lesion counts and the investigat
rs' global evaluations. Subjective assessment of cutaneous irritation by the investigators and patients evaluated safety. RESULTS: The efficacy of the two active treatments in this 215 patient study was comparable, and both treatments were statistically s
gnificantly more effective than vehicle. When compared with the commercially-available tretinoin gel, the formulation containing polyolprepolymer-2 demonstrated statistically significantly less peeling at days 28, 56, and 84, statistically significantly l
ss dryness by day 84, and statistically significantly less itching at day 14. Irritation scores for the formulation containing polyolprepolymer-2 were numerically lower but not statistically different from those of the commercially-available gel for eryth
ma and burning. The number of cutaneous and noncutaneous adverse events were similar for both active medications. CONCLUSION: The two 0.025% gels studied demonstrated comparable efficacy. However, the gel formulation containing polyolprepolymer-2 caused s
gnificantly less peeling and drying than the commercially-available formulation by day 84 of the study.^^^^^^Best to you. (I'll check on the cream)
Jade - 11/23/99 05:18:33
Gender: female
Age: 20
Comments:
Hi everyone! I am seriously considering taking Accutane and I have read about all the possible side affects. I am totally willing to go through with it so I can get rid of this horrible acne(I have had it on and off since I was 12, but I just started ge
ting those painful cysts this past year), but I'm really concerned about the joint pain some experience. I am an athlete( a rower-go crew!) and we have intense practices almost everyday. Besides that, our practices are very early in the morning. To tho
e of you who are in similar situations, could you give me some feedback on how bad it got-was it ever intolerable? Isn't it supposed to be worse when you just wake up? I love rowing so much, and I am not sure I could give it up, no matter how bad my acne
s. Thanks!
Rini - 11/23/99 05:17:15
My Email:missrini@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Comments:
Well it's week 4 now and last week I got my first pimple since beginning Accutane! The redness in my face has gone (hurrah!), but this week the severe peeling is back :( I thought that was only a first week thing....guess not. I've had a few blood noses
too. Overall I'm pretty happy though :) I was wondering if anyone out there has any website recomendations for "Accutane Diary"s - you know, personal websites with week by week experiences of accutane. I am keeping a Diary myself and will create a webp
ge when I am finished the drug. I'd like to read about other people's experiences though in the meantime....as I find it gives me great comfort. Email me if you know of any good sites. Thanks!
are you there GW - 11/23/99 03:55:22
Comments:
its kristin. what time is it in australia
kristin - 11/23/99 03:54:07
Comments:
no lily you definitly will not die from popping a pimple.
ps (sorry for the numerous question marks in my previous post.)
RAY IS GAY - 11/23/99 03:53:16
Comments:
PS- Dont worry about Ray peoples.......RAY IS GAY AND HE ROLLS AROUND ON HAY AND NO-ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT HIS SAY...............****GW****
kristin - 11/23/99 03:51:16
Comments:
i just erased all i wrote by mistake, annoying huh? so ANGIE congratulation i hope the treatment goes well. BOB, whats this about hair loss? that doesn't sound so great? and is that what accutane is? synthetic vitamin A? anything else? more questi
ns for HGpig, where are you from? and are you a doctor or med student or something? not to be nosy, but i am interested in your background, where you get your info, etc,
whatever, i'm just bored so i'm typing away here talk you all later :)
GW - 11/23/99 03:50:49
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
YES, the PIG does have a big following and rightly so. Its because he consistently gives good info, answers people's posts and can TAKE A JOKE!!!! (ps-I've actually become addicted to my car's exhaust..........) By the way, thanks for the reply about th
red marks (what about your experience?????)*******************TO SA: I can't speak for everyone, but many times we are told by professionals that diet and other outside influences don't cause acne. I think you have yourself mixed up SA. Okay, dirty sh
ets, pillows , certain face washes etc may aggravate acne slightly but they are not really going to cause cystic acne. Its really inside of you. If your going to get it, your going to get it. Whether you eat a Big Mac or whatever isn't going to give yo
cystic acne. Its like anything else, if you eat well and have a healthy lifestyle, then this will pobably reflect in the way you look, but it's not going to be the difference between acne or no acne.******Just my thoughts, feel free to reply and drill m
.
Lily - 11/23/99 03:48:05
My Email:rmfrancis@msn.com
Gender: female
Age: 14
Comments:
I just have a quick question. Is it true popping a pimple could cause you to die?
Thanks,
Lily
Robin - 11/23/99 03:47:23
My Email:robin_currie@Ameritech. net
Age: 51
Comments:
Thanks to any of you who write hopeful messages - this is week 3 and I have fewer new blemishes each day but now they are in very noticible places not hidden by hair. I am feeling very ugly. My son keeps pointing to his high school pictures before and aft
r and saying there is hope but I'm losing my perspective. I won't stop - then this would have been for nothing. Just keep writing good stuff about oil free skin...I keep reading. Robin
Re. of Nick, What about it Ray? - 11/23/99 02:44:48
Comments:
So what do think Ray? What about Nick? where are you now great contributor?
- 11/23/99 02:44:44
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Comments:
HELLO! Just wanted to drop in and say that I'm onto my fifth week of Roaccutane and I'm so glad I started it. I had a bit of a breakout in the first two weeks, my forehead cleared up in the third, my cheeks (two odd ovals of cystic acne) scabbed in the fo
th week, and now (today) the last scab has departed the building! Now, I'm just left with a few harmless looking ones on my chin and- here's hoping- I'll be clear for the weekend! So very happy with the reults so far. Only had a few side effects- dry lips
nose and .. oh yeah- CLEAR SKIN! Hope everyone is going well. I'm not very up-to-date on the post (looked in last week) but I hope SPUNKY keeps his chin up. You sound like a nice guy (like the rest of us) and it's a shame to hear you so sad. See ya!
ROB - 11/23/99 02:21:53
Comments:
Sorry for the spelling, Shocker!
Rob - 11/23/99 02:20:21
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
TO PAM: and others,Thanks for reccomending Cetaphil cleanser some weeks ago. I have been using it and it has reduced the redness and dryness. My skin feels good after using it and as I use it over my body as well,it has stop the skin on my arms form being
really itchy and rash like. The main thing is it has reduced the redness of my face and thats great, I reccomend it to anyone. Thanks again. To HGPIG: It seems you have quiet a following, maybe you should strat your own sit and take spunky and thoes with
ou! just a thought!
kylie - 11/23/99 00:59:59
My Email:kylie@colormail.com
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
To Karen, 28 who asked about vivid dreams while on roaccutane. I have been on this medication since mid october this year, and yes, I have noticed that I have been having very vivid dreams since I have been on the drug. I think some people have mentione
this in the forum, some even experiencing nightmares. I think this is definitely a side effect of this medication; before taking roaccutane, I never remembered my dreams, now they are so real, and I have several every night!!
Also, a question for the forum - does anyone else notice that their entire face is quite red while on roaccutane? Just wondering if this redness lasts for the duration of treatment?
To SA, who asked about joint and muscle pain. I have experienced some of this. I walk about 7km every afternoon and for a couple of days I was unable to walk on one foot due to incredible pain in my achilles tendon. This was definitely unusual for me,
s walking is not exactly weight training! Apart from that, I do feel a bit stiff at times, and some joints ocassionally ache a bit, but it is nothing serious. My ankle is fine now. I should think it would depend on your dose and the amount and type of
hysical activity you do.
Nick - 11/23/99 00:47:59
My Email:N.Heppleston@uea.ac.uk
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Comments:
Hey there everyone, glad to see people are having both ups and downs that the joyous affliction brings us. I haven't been taking oral or topical drugs for over three years now, but i reckon i might have found the answer:- food (and a few other things).
firstly, food. eat apples. i know it might sound strange, but if i eat 4-5 apples a day (yep it does cost a bomb, but i would be quite happy being bankrupt than not having acne) and keep off all of the other fatty foods that are out there, especially choc
late, chinese food and generally fried or cooked in oil, my acne seems to remain at bay. its often the case that i feel that my acne is good, i start to eat 'bad' foods again, then they come back.
additionally, i've found that changing my bed sheets once a week also helps (just think about all that grease that builds up on your duvet/sheets).
i would be pleased to know if anyone else has any luck with the apples (or any other fruit for that matter). like all remedies, it take time, roughly about a week before i start to feel my face start to dry up, and the spots start to go.
tell me what you think, and remember, it ain't just you out there suffering, wanting to lock yourself up and never been seen. we are all in the same boat.
have a good week all, Nick
Norwich, England
ONE MORE TIME!!!! - 11/23/99 00:37:56
Comments:
HIP HIP HURRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HIP HIP HURRAH!!!!! - 11/23/99 00:36:46
Comments:
YEA ANGIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HIP HIP HURRAH!!!!! Best to you . HGPig
SA - 11/23/99 00:15:13
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Comments:
Hello all. One more addition to the list! First and foremost thanks to Gill for creating this
site and to U all for making me feel that I am not the only one.
I have had acne since 18-19. I have the same story - Have tried all the OTC stuff and all. Then moved
onto the next phase of my relationship with Acne! Moved to oral drugs, Doxycycline, Tetracycline,
Minocin etc. Minocin seems to control it. But nothing great. Mc acne is not very very bad, just always there. It's getting worse lately. I'm 26 now and now it is beginning to leave brown spots. So my derm thinks it's time to move to the next stage of my r
lation. Accutane! As everyone I am scared about the side effects. My main concerns are: I read that Accutane causes muscle aches - joint aches in particular. How bad is it? Does it
keep getting worse or is it only while on treatment. Also I heard that U cannot do like workouts and all when U r on treatment. Is it because of the joint/muscle pain ache?
If anyone has any insights pleeese! Guys(and gals of course) thanks once again!
Take Care. SA
Tyler - 11/22/99 23:12:39
My Email:moeller1@aol.com
Gender: male
Age: 14
Comments:
hey, i am on my 10th week of treatment and not seeing any significant changes, the acne on my back has gotten better, but the acne on my face is still bad. It seems like i have had it my whole life, but i'm sure the accutane will help clear it up. The onl
side affects i have encountered are the chapped lips and sore joints, but this is probably because i am active in sports, well i'll keep posting as i continue my treatment.
Angie - 11/22/99 23:10:04
My Email:horsesR4ever@juno.com
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
hi alane. some anti depressents can cause serious acne (lithium is definetely one). i would ask before i take. when i was a teenager they put me on all those things because i had just been confined to a wheelchair at 15. i also had very bad cystic acne. i
only made my skin worse and i had numerous side effects. it was a bad time. all i can say is ask questions. take care.
Angie
Angie - 11/22/99 23:02:45
My Email:hirsesR4ever@juno.com
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
sorry didn't mean to post that mANY TIME:-) my doctor was so nice and said the second time (which is rare that i would need it anywaze) should cure it for good. he could see how upset i was and gave me 60 mg. two 40mgs on even days and one on odd. i feel
o much better and can't wait for five months to be over with. maybe now it won't hurt during physical therapy or to be transfered because there won't be any cysts on me! thank you all for support. i hope to be in touch during my second round with accutane
Angie
Angie - 11/22/99 22:58:31
My Email:horsesR4ever@juno.com
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
I GOT ACCUTANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Angie - 11/22/99 22:58:30
My Email:horsesR4ever@juno.com
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
I GOT ACCUTANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Angie - 11/22/99 22:58:28
My Email:horsesR4ever@juno.com
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
I GOT ACCUTANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
paul - 11/22/99 22:57:21
My URL:http://www.oocities.org/roaccutane999/
My Email:paul@holliday999.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: male
Age: 18
Comments:
DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE MSN MESSENGER ?
AS i DO, ANYONE Like A CHAT ?
MY ADDRESS IS paulholliday@hotmail.com
Bob Topps - 11/22/99 22:36:14
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
I have not heard of hair loss w/ on Accutane. I remember my derm. told me about hair thinning during treatment. But then again, that was another of the wierd side effects (loss of night vison, VERY dry lips, muscle aches in morning) he said would go away
fter treatment and NEVER return.
Its been about a year and a half sinc ethe treatment (40mg day). I can report that these effects do go away after course. While I am sure that megadoses of synthetic Vitamin A wasn't the best thing for my system, neither was being a recluse and a complet
ly miserable person who looked as though Tom Cruise fell down the ugly treee and hit a couple of the brancehs on the way down...Lets keep hoping for better symettry folks!
Good LUCK!
Cip - 11/22/99 22:05:14
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Comments:
Went to my derm appointment and my dose is getting increased from 60 mg to 80mg/day. It's about 8 weeks and I am FINALLY seeing some improvement. My derm said the higher your dose the less chance of having to go through accutane treatment again. I've actu
lly managed to bring my cholesterol down lower than it was when I started accutane by being really careful with my diet, less meat, lots of grains and vegetables. I guess that's helping. Good luck everyone!
spudy - 11/22/99 21:09:47
Comments:
you people are weird
Lori - 11/22/99 20:43:36
My Email:lbhod@flash.net
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Comments:
I have been on accutane for 8 weeks and my skin is finally clear. I am a little worried about hair loss though. I haven't seen any hair loss yet but I was wondering if a product like Nioxin would be helpful to prevent hair loss during my accutane treatm
nt. Has anyone tried Nioxin while on Accutane. Thank you.
Jill Leckie - 11/22/99 20:24:27
My Email:starstruck31@hotmail.com
Age: 16
Comments:
Hi Gill,
I am only 16 and have been through exactly the same routine as u have. I am at the moment waiting for an appointment to see a dermatologist as iam considering going on Roaccuntane. This has been my last resort and am desperate. I actually tries the Hel
n Sher system. It didn't work but their concelear is very good. I have had my acne since i was 7. It is a lot better than it was but i now have scaring on my cheeks. I experienced exactly the same side effects when i went on oral antibiotics. They didn
t work, they only left scaring. Y'r web page has helped me to make a decision about roaccutane. Thankyou
- 11/22/99 18:36:02
Comments:
Alane - 11/22/99 17:51:01
My Email:edwamm@aur.alcatel.com
Age: 30
Comments:
Does anyone take antidepressants now? If so, what, how much, and do you notice any difference in your accutane progress? I'm thinking of going back on Prozac and wanted some opinions.
Bob Topps - 11/22/99 17:44:14
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
HGpig: thanks for the info. I remeber using Cleocin at one time (I think they came in pads) and it worked well...Isnt it true that Retin-A gel permeates the skin better than the cream? just wondering..I WILL try Renova. Ive heard good things about it? Wha
advantages does Retin-A gel (.0025%-the 'orange') have over Renova, if any?
Whats your desired administration of Minocycline (50mg) to someone who weighs about 150? I avoid any dairy products within two hours becasue I read it affects absorbtion? Your thoughts?
Good LUCK!
RoXyr - 11/22/99 15:35:16
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
What up yo?
RoXy - 11/22/99 15:33:45
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Heya, how is everyone this morning? I am happy because my boyfriend is coming to town...even happier because I woke up with no new "developments" I still have remnants of pimples but they are OUTTA HERE now I am just waiting for the red marks to go away.
.I will probably be waiting a while since I can't help but be in the sun, always....It is week ten and all Im saying is FINALLY!!!!!!Good luck everybody. I will keep you posted hopefully all good news...lates.
Karen - 11/22/99 15:30:23
Comments:
Bye Spunky!
spunky - 11/22/99 15:28:19
Comments:
well, this will be my last post for a while. I'm sorry no one believes me about HGpig, but that's some tough shit I guess. Pig, just do me a favor and don't fuck up anyone elses life ok??? You are one unbelievable piece of shit.. and hy don't u ever po
t your email? the now infamous name........ adrian anthony
Alane - 11/22/99 14:19:55
My Email:edwamm@aur.alcatel.com
Gender: Female
Age: 30
Comments:
Just a couple of things--- HGPig, thank you for your words of wisdom. I look forward to reading your responses to people who are desperate for hope.--- I am on day 18. Hopefully I'm experiencing the "worse before it gets better" syndrome as my face has
one from 2-3 zits to lots and lots of very painful big zits. I know I shouldn't, but I pop them. It really does make them feel better. Bad bad me.... Do you think what I'm experiencing is the big explosion or is it still just my f*cked up sebacious gl
nds? Anyone else in week 2-3 with whom I can compare progress????
Tigerboy - 11/22/99 12:39:06
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
Gday Forum! As you can tell I'm from Australia, actually the Northern Beaches of Sydney. I am currently on my 4th Week of Roaccutane at 60mg a day. I have been told 2 in the morning, one a night. Luckily for me, I have been fortuate to already see 2-3 mon
h symptoms of Roaccutane. Even though my skin isnt spotless, it is coming slowly towards that goal, and im only into 4 weeks of treatment. I know my skin is probably so much better than alot of other patients on this drug, but you know how it is, you see
esults like this and well, you want it to go faster. It might sound stupid, but I want the effects double
in order to get more results. I might be a prick for expecting more, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, but want to get there fast, not slow. Does anyone understand that?
Take care people. And to all of u people with ego's to protect, go to yahoo and tell someone else.
Karen - 11/22/99 12:10:16
Gender: Female
Age: 28 (on Sat - ouch!!)
Comments:
Firstly,I've been on Roaccutane for 2.5 weeks so far and I'm already noticing that my skin is definitely better (boyfriend agrees.) Secondly, I have noticed that I have been sleeping really badly over the last couple of weeks and having really vivid dream
. Now this could be down to any number of things, like work, changes in personal life etc - but I was wondering if it could be a Roaccutane side-effect? Has anyone else experienced this or is it a know side-effect? I'd be thrilled to hear from anyone w
o either thinks there is a connection or otherwise. Many thanks. Love Karenx
spunky - 11/22/99 11:24:37
Comments:
perameters??? is that right??? and how about deceitful??? is that one right?? thanks
spunky - 11/22/99 09:06:00
Comments:
nahnah... woohoo. well, all my pessimism has paid off. actually think accutane works, just give it time. I also know that goat soap works (I've been without it for like 2 days and I got my first little pimple in like 3 weeks) before, I was getting t
e big whiteheads, now I'm just geting the small ones. And to HGPig. In a way, Id like to apologize... but at the same time not. I think I did overdo the fact that everything you say is lies. But I honestly think that some people (including myself) th
nk that the experiemnt thing was totally BS. You speak in a language that I (nor most) people on here can understand. that's why everyone believes you because human beings have a tendancy to believe things that they cannot comprehend. I still think you
stress everybody out to much, and are decietful(spelling). But maybe you so know a couple of things. Oh and if those REALLY are the peramaters(spelling) of your experiment then u are a big fat liar. you better come up with something better than that
And lastly, Azelaic Acid - 11/22/99 08:33:40
Comments:
PM_ARTICLE_TITLEAzelaic acid. A review of its pharmacological properties and therapeutic efficacy in acne and hyperpigmentary skin disorders.
- 11/22/99 08:28:30
Comments:
PM_ARTICLE_TITLEClinical efficacy of Velac, a new tretinoin and clindamycin phosphate gel in acne vulgaris PM_ARTICLE_TITLE
PM ARTICLE ABSTRACTVelac, a new gel formulation containing both tretinoin (0.025%) and clindamycin phosphate (1.2%), is effective in acne vulgaris using a once daily application. The single formulation enhances compliance in young patients and improves th
therapeutic results. Treatment with Velac was found to be more effective than tretinoin alone in inflamed lesions and at least comparable in open and closed comedones. In two of the three studies the overall acne severity grade was significantly more red
ced when compared with tretinoin. Velac is also more effective than clindamycin alone in the treatment of the non-inflamed lesions. In the two multicentre studies the reduction of the overall acne severity grade was also more favourable for the new gel fo
mulation. A more rapid response occurred with Velac than with either component used (clindamycin or tretinoin) alone.PM_ARTICLE_ABSTRACT
To Bob Topps from HGPig ..R-A gels - 11/22/99 08:25:49
Comments:
J Am Acad Dermatol 1998 Apr;38(4):S17-23 Related Articles, LinkOut
To Bob Topps from HGPig further on Retin-A gels - 11/22/99 08:23:48
Comments:
Continuing the recent thread. I wanted to include the following, should you be interested. ON THE NEXT POST I will site the VELAC study. Best to you. ^^^^^^^^^J Am Acad Dermatol 1998 Apr;38(4):S17-23 Related Articles, LinkOut
To the 60mg per day - 11/22/99 07:50:43
Comments:
This depends upon your tolerances. Your side-effects I would scrutinize. If, after the full course (and this may or may not be a key question in your case), I might be inclined to increase the duration of this modality. (remember, duration may be as effec
ive). However, I might also be concerned about other current effects, your case history, and possible duration effects too. Best to you.
- 11/22/99 07:04:27
Comments:
i read somewhere that accutane will stop overly active sweat glands. is this true?
- 11/22/99 06:22:55
Comments:
100 lbs. 60 mgs. a day week 12 still getting small ones that last two days max...to avoid reoccurence should i push for 80? the new pimples are quite small and the redness is quite horrible please help thanks i am quite desperate.
shannon - 11/22/99 03:58:46
My Email:slwhittington
Age: 24
Comments:
I just got off accutane in August and I am very unhappy because i still have breakouts and they are are my forehead and t-zone area. They are just little bumps under the skin that I HATE. I have been on accutane once before in high school and it worked b
autifully! I was very happy. I guess my skin gets to immune to the medicines I take.I am now looking into chinese herbs! I wont this to go away. It is not horrible, it could be worse. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks, Shannon
Allison - 11/22/99 03:42:44
Gender: female
Age: 16
Comments:
I've been on accutane for one and a half weeks. My acne is clearing up, but my face is still really oily. Will my skin ever get dry??
To ' Jen' from HGPig - 11/22/99 01:24:35
Comments:
Sometimes the increase dosage is to reduce the possibility of relapse. Here is a case study:^^^^^^ J Am Acad Dermatol 1992 Dec;27(6 Pt 2):S2-7
Guidelines for optimal use of isotretinoin in acne.
Layton AM, Cunliffe WJ
Leeds Foundation for Dermatological Research.
Isotretinoin is most effective for patients with acne who fail to respond to other forms of treatment; virtually all patients respond to isotretinoin, 0.5 to 1.0 mg/kg/day. As many as 61% of patients are cured after one course, but 39% require further iso
retinoin (16%) or oral antibiotics (23%). The relapse rate can be reduced by the administration of the higher dose of 1 mg/kg/day (thus achieving a significant cumulative dose of > 120 mg/kg), especially to young patients and men with truncal acne and mor
severe disease. About 85% require a 4-month course, but 15% require longer treatment, with some up to 10 months. There are several reasons for a slow response to treatment, including the presence of macrocomedones, ovarian dysfunction, and as-yet unknown
factors. Macrocomedones can be treated with light cautery, ovarian dysfunction with hormonal therapies, and in those persons who have no obvious explanation for slow response, persistence with isotretinoin alone is required. Repeat courses of isotretinoin
can also be given. Six years ago most patients treated with isotretinoin had severe acne (60%), but today most patients (60%) have therapy-resistant moderate acne. Isotretinoin is a consideration in such patients to reduce the physical and psychological e
fects of acne, particularly because there is no simple method to treat acne scars.
Publication Types:
· Review
· Review, tutorial^^^^^^^^^^^^^Best to you Jen, HGPig.
TO GW: The Red Marks from HGPig - 11/22/99 00:51:00
Comments:
The rate of fading I believe relative, because DURING accutane the skin is BOTH repairing and exfoiliating at high rates. Also, the degree of lesion and complexion type has a bearing on how noticable they are. During treatment red areas may also been hidd
n beneath whiter shedding skin layers. So, not to duck the question, it's a difficult question to even measure. I think the user will notice, with remission, that after treatment most red areas will appear less. I still like white titanium dioxide sunscre
ns over the red areas, especially during treatment. Best to you. HGPig
To Bob Topps from HGPig - 11/22/99 00:35:45
Comments:
I never liked the gel form of Retin-A. But I do remember your prior posts where it agrees with you over the cream form. I actually favor Renova, which is a .05% Retin-A from the same pharmaceutical (Ortho). It performs with the same turnover rate, but inc
udes emolliants to keep the skin calm. You can get free samples from your specialist (they're free to specialists). If not, phone your specialist for a prescription. I still like Azelex (Azelaic 20% acid) smoothed in over "red" areas during the day, and t
en covered with a Calmine compound and/or a sunscreen. At, night, as yourself, the Retin-A Renova, then on top of the Renova the Azelaic acid. Actually the Azelex can be smoothed in and used as a cover also. Note, these compounds are white, but can be cle
erly blended to match adjacent skin. Best to you HGPig.
RoXy - 11/21/99 23:19:56
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi Matt, I am on week ten and I am just now noticing drastic improvements in my skin..today only a couple of small pimples...but the red marks are dragging me down...they just take time to heal, my dermatologist said they always go away...we'll see!!! Goo
luck to you and everybody else I know it is hard but keep your heads up!!!!
RoXy - 11/21/99 23:19:53
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi Matt, I am on week ten and I am just now noticing drastic improvements in my skin..today only a couple of small pimples...but the red marks are dragging me down...they just take time to heal, my dermatologist said they always go away...we'll see!!! Goo
luck to you and everybody else I know it is hard but keep your heads up!!!!
RoXy - 11/21/99 23:16:07
My Email:roxyroo
Comments:
RoXy - 11/21/99 23:15:40
My Email:roxyroo
Comments:
Mat - 11/21/99 22:58:18
Gender: male
Age: 19
Comments:
Hi everybody. This is week 8 for me and still getting new pimples... I´m afraid to have pimples for all my life. Any recomendation?? Thanks for listening and answering me.
Mat
LAST POST ON "THE EXPERIMENT" from HGPig - 11/21/99 22:39:37
Comments:
Final post on "The Experiment". RESULTS AS FOLLOWS: I will keep this short and simple as possible. 1. The tablets (ingredients posted at this site 11-7-99 @ 4:32:07) NO effect. 2. Capsules (ingredients posted 11-7-99@6:42:58 which WERE POSTED as stated (>
HESE ALL CAN BE LOOKED UP IN YOUR SEARCH ENGINES I DO NOT RECOMMEND COMPANIES>>>> I AM NOT HERE TO SELL A THING!!!!<), vaccinum, vitus vinifera and ginkolide. RESULTS: vaccinum and vitus vinifera seem effective, ginkolide NOT effective. 3. Diet: Protein P
wder Science Labs (this is posted this month in my Shawn link here). Lima beans, califlower, broccoli, cheeses, milk, bake potatoe sour-cream-and-chive, even Wendy's burger every other day......ALL PREVIOUS POSTED. THE PIG DOES EAT!!! RESULTS: Effective.
onclusion: I have stated before, this was an experiment by myself for myself, but I am here at this web site states to share "personnal experience"(see above on this web page!). ALL that we consume are "chemicals" or perhaps better worded, "chemically com
osed". I am clear this day. I am NOT using the tablet, I am using the protein powder, diet and capsules stated above combined. Furthermore, I have stated many observations on accutane and other questions such here. BEST TO ALL! HGPig^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Appendix: Technical scientific names of "common" flora as follows:
Drejer; Vaccinium gaultherioides Bigelow, V. uliginosum var. alpinum Bigelow, V. uliginosum var. microphyllum Lange (ssp. microphyllum)
Svenska synonym: slinnon; vanligt odon (ssp. uliginosum), fjällodon, småbladigt fjällodon (ssp. microphyllum)
WHAT about it RAY - 11/21/99 21:45:09
Comments:
And what about Jane post 11/3/99 15:02.41 that was unable to use Accutane for 2 years? And what about Morty, who for health problems, had to stop accutane (11/3/99/7:04.58)? And what about those because of blood chemistry that cannot take accutane? And wh
t about Kay 11/4/99/3:17.03, who's son had no results by week 12? And what about Amy Trial 11/1/99 9:25.46, with still "hormonal outbreaks"? And what about Rianne 10/30/99/8:00.55 that can't take accutane at all? And what about the many, who don't even h
ve the access to this site, to know of the benefits of Accutane? And what about the many who because of hormonal abnormalities, accutane has delayed or little effect? And what about those that do not even have health access? And what about the many (and t
ere are plenty), who can't afford to take accutane/ROC. because they cannot afford it, or there insurance won't pay? What about it achivist?
To Brook from HGPig apology - 11/21/99 21:32:25
Comments:
I remembered what you wrote, that your test was scheduled about December 6th. My comment was mean't as a voice of confidence to this, that's all. Apology (but I still like that e-mail address). HGPig
To: Mia - 11/21/99 20:52:54
Comments:
The only evidence they have of birth defects is while you are taking accutane not to have children. It's best to wait a month or so before having children. But in the long run I'm not sure....good question!!
From Brooks :)
TOHGPig - 11/21/99 20:50:04
Comments:
This is Brooks I did not think the comment about me having abnormal blood test while on Accutane was really nice! Your pretty selfish.....
What HGPIG wrote:
Only Sarah Michelle Gellar has suspect blood chemistry.
mia - 11/21/99 18:49:51
Age: 19
Comments:
Is there any evidence that accutane can cause birth defects in babies even a few years after taking accutane. Please can someone help. Im really concerned.
Bob Topps - 11/21/99 18:37:13
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
To he person asking about the shedding aspects of Tretinion, all I can say is that it is considered an "exfoliant". That is it encourages our skin to lose one of its top layers. A fresh one is more supple and looks better. However this takes a LONG time a
d does not have the same effect for everyones skin.. those red spots are actaully the bodies way of healing, putting anything on it just makes it worse.
HGpig: Whats your recommended application method of Retin-A Gel .025%?
Morty:WHeres that data disproving food-zit connection?
kristin:what up girl
Sir:brush your teeth!
Good Luck!
Emilie - 11/21/99 18:33:01
My Email:carameli@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Comments:
Hi. I haven't been here since I started at University and I missed this site a lot. I visited it everyday all summer long. I started on accutane on May 26th (50mgs/day). I finish on December 9th and I am really nervous. I had SEVERE acne and the scar
ing is unbelievable. I'm just really afraid the acne will come back and I won't be able to start fixing the scarring. Anyways, I had one question. I have red marks that will fade, but I also have like little pits. Is there any way to fix those, or eve
just minimize their appearance???
If anyone knows, please EMAIL me the answer cuz I probably won't be back here for a while again.
Thank you to the site creator. Without this site, I probably wouldn't have made it through the summer. You gave me hope :)
Emilie
RoXy - 11/21/99 18:21:04
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRRl
Age: 21
Comments:
There is this 15 year old girl that emailed me and said she had blindness when on 20 mgs. so her doctor put her on 10mgs. and she is on it to get rid of red marks and has very few pimples...is this totally wrong...i feel like telling her to flush it...i w
nt to tell her to ask her doctor but hes the one that says she needs to continue so accutane can shed the red marks to leave her a new face????what the....any suggestions or advice?
RoXy - 11/21/99 18:17:40
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRRl
Age: 21
Comments:
- 11/21/99 17:50:27
Comments:
SAFFRON: Truncal acne is acne you get on your trunc/chest region....it takes longer to go away but accutane does get rid of eventually.
paul - 11/21/99 17:04:56
My URL:http://www.oocities.org/roaccutane999
My Email:paul@holliday999.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: male
Age: 18
Comments:
Does anyone know anything that helps after coming off ROaccutane ??!?!?!?!?!??!!?
PLEASE !
Anything would be of help
As am going into panic here !
thanks
paul
- 11/21/99 16:30:21
Comments:
i have somethng that is not a pimple but a blister amist all other pimples its about as big as a pencil eraser but not at all symmetrical ...what is it .
Angie - 11/21/99 16:19:07
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Okay, someone answer me this. The reason that we have our blood taken is to make sure the medicine is not affecting our liver and other areas, correct? If that is true we are leaving it up to our doctor to tell us if the Accutane is wrong for us. Some
f you people are frightening me. I have been on Accutane for about 6 weeks and am looking forward to some happy times and now you are telling me it could kill me. That is like a slap in the face. I think this web site if a great one if everyone respect
everyone elses right to grieve in their own way. If you don't like what they are writing don't read it and certainly writing how you dislike someone else proves you to be the one wasting space. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I log on to add to my self
confidence not detract from it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
saffron - 11/21/99 13:48:24
Gender: fee-male
Age: 24
Comments:
Hiya. QUESTION!
Does anyone know what truncal acne is? Rate of reoccurrence is reportedly associated with it! Cheers.
spunky - 11/21/99 12:12:43
Comments:
I was at the beach, sittin on the sand, when I saw this girl.. dark brown eyes and a dark olive tan. She was watchin the sets, with a surfboard underneath her arm. The first moment I saw her... I knew she'd do me some harm.. she's soo good. She came
ut of the water.. from the best session I'd seen, man she had the biggest chi-chi's I had ever seen. She put down her board and sat down next to me, played a soft ol lonely tune. on her eukaleye (spelling). I don't know what had happen.. but I'd fallen
asleep. The next morning I woke up and she was sleeping next to me. Ohh, I fell in love with her, I'm so in love with her, I feel in klove with her, my little surfer girl. She got out of bed and waxed up both our boards, grabed me by the hand and took
e out the door. We surfed all that day long, at least 10 hours straight. man I knew she was the one and damn I couldn't wait. well I asked her if she loved me.. she said yea well I guess, so I asked her to marry me.. damnit you know she said yes. I fe
l in love with her, I'm so in love with her, I fell in love with her.. my little surfer girl. I was at the alter.. in my tuxedo, waiting for my surfer girl, man where did she go. Later on that day, a friend of me did tell.. she went off to mexico to ca
ch a 10 foot swell.. that bitch. sorry roxy, I haven't listened to that song in like a year and I just had to type it. I love that song.. well, me and kevin are off to denny's.. later.. email me ok :)
NORMA - 11/21/99 11:09:14
My Email:nerminehab@yahoo.com
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
Hi , everyone.
I'm the one so worried who wrote on friday the 19th of november . I was worrying about the side effects of roaccutane , but now I found out everything about it .
Well I'm afraid to say that they are very sever espacialy when we mession the LIVER .
As I said before I've been on the treatment for a month & I have all the apparent symptoms , like lips dryness , eyes getting dry & so on ....
Therefor I decided to tell my doctor that I'm going to stop the treatment in order to save my LIVER .
So what do you think about that?????????
I'm frightened enough to stop the treatment!!!!!!
I didn't mean to cause any trouble to anyone using accutane but if you trust the medicine so take it & don't worry about me .
I hope -if somebody there interested- that anyone could be intouch with me.....I becoming frustrated & cofused , may be worse!!!!!
spunky - 11/21/99 10:36:26
Comments:
I was just looking back at some old messages and I noticed something. Everytime you bring up the experiment he shuts his mouth. very interesting.. just think about it everybody. YOur being confused and manipulated. YOu
ll see, I promise. Silena.. where are you?????????
spunky - 11/21/99 09:47:32
Comments:
to GW (and anyone else). I agree my last couple of posts were vulgar and kind of crazy BUT... I was very, very furious at the people who are giving in to HGPig and reading and BELIEVING his lies. Look back a long time agao and read some of the things h
said. You know, about his little experiment. Silena might agree with me on this one too because every single time you ask him about it... he never has anything to say. If he does say something, it's always some BS that nobody cares about and makes ab
olutely no sense. Don't you think that if he has this magical cure and was a nice person then he would tell everybody and not keep it some big secret. I mean, he used to say that he couldn't tell us becuase he wasn't sure how safe something was that he
as buying OVER THE COUNTER. I mean cmon. He always used to say how important is was to break open the capsuls and spread it on the fod and this and that and blah blah blah but he would never say what it was. I'm not doubting that he is smart, I really
hink he is.. he's just using his brain for the wrong things. I know some people most believe him but it's sad that anyone does... you guys are making a big mistake. just look back at the past posts, you'll see. And HGPIG, take your best shot at me.
I'm just an emotional 17 year old with a kick ass girfriend who thinks he is the shit with some much clearer skin who, unfortunately ( if gill gives me enough time) is gonna bring you down.
- 11/21/99 09:43:13
Comments:
Jen - That's 0.5 - 1 mg/day per kilo. So if you weigh 80 kg, you should take 40 - 80 mg/day.
GW - 11/21/99 09:29:30
Gender: TO HGPIG
Comments:
****HGPIG********Apparently you are an experienced roaccutane user - what was your experience with the red marks, did they fade away quickly during/after roaccutane? Thanks in advance.
' Jen' to HG pig - 11/21/99 09:14:07
Gender: female
Age: 16
Comments:
Hi , HG pig, i want to know how much dose of praccutane do we need to take per day exactly ? from your site , i see some said 40mg/day or more , but from the professional site of the roaccutane , it says the right dose is 0.5-1.0 mg/day , if it's right ,
o why do some take more than proper dose a day ? won't they be dangerous ?
To: Cheerio Ray Smolinski - 11/21/99 08:28:15
Comments:
Cheerio Ray Smolinski, are you makimg some sense please? Read four posts down my reply to RoXy, before you posted, and many more, including Angie's reply (thanks Angie). All I'm saying is "let the cake rise". Hi Ho cheerio. HGPig
Thank you Amae.....HGPig - 11/21/99 07:02:04
Comments:
Yes, ok thank you, and to others that have appreciated my time consuming work. Best to reserve my revealing the nature of my work yet. But maybe in the future. HGPig
And to Mr. "Yah." - 11/21/99 06:55:47
Comments:
You claim to be a "monitor" setting up operations. Haven't you even read the first objective at the top of this site? To "detail your own experience with acne AND acne cures". Why don't you really get to work clean up the cursing language here, and really
read all the posts.
Amae - 11/21/99 06:33:32
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
Okay- why the hell is my insurance doing this to me now?!!??? I have been given the run-around for a week now about my scrips. UGGGGHHHH- nasty nasty nasty insurance people. *PIG* You have clients? What kind of clients? Stay out of the whole Spunky i
sue- it's not becoming of you. ~Amae
And Non-ame hotshot..... - 11/21/99 06:22:58
Comments:
Your a real tiger, it took a real man to post your credentials oh GREAT MONITOR. What do you think food is? I guess according to you, not "chemicals". Let's all use no-name's definitions. I see you were very busy doing your monitor-research and realize th
t Accutane in an analog of vitamin A. Oh yes, according to you not a chemical? HGPig.
RE WELL This - 11/21/99 06:18:07
Comments:
List the posts I have made for the sincere, and you will see that I have supported Accutane. Should I use big letters like you hot shot KGB. HGPig
RE Well This - 11/21/99 05:53:01
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Comments:
HGPIG, why do you come on here and make such idiotic claims after all the hard wotk you have done. Well This is another alias that you go under, because I am foruate enough to work for Yahoo, and part of our operations is to monitor Geocities and associat
d projects. I live in Australia currently, but I was based in the US. I'm here for 1 year to set up operations in Australia and Oceania.
It's more dissapointing because your still childish yet willing to give qualifiable information regarding radical and offen obsurd solutions. Yes there is always hope, but to what extent will that hope prevail. I can see that your young, clutching for str
ws, yet you always get the short one. Acne won't go away through starving and pumping your body full of chemicals. If a drug like Accuatne, or Roaacutanr (the Australia name) doesnt help you, I have grave reservations if anything else would? If you go it,
you got it. I did have it, but it stopped after my 2nd treatment of Roaccutane. 29 now, acne free for 9 1/2 years. All I am saying is don't spoil the cake because you want to place extra topping to make it look good. Cheerio Ray Smolinski
GW - 11/21/99 04:59:53
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
I've been trying not to get involved in this HGPIG/SPUNKY thing for a while but I think ts time to SPEAK UP. And as a matter of fact I'm leaning towards HGPIG, whose last few posts have been nothing but informative. Its funny because everyone seems to b
defending SPUNKY and making PIG sound like a real cock. HEY HEY, have a look at the SPUNKRAT POSTING SILLY LITTLE RE-HASHED LOVE LETTERS YOU MUST BE FUCKING KIDDING. I THINK SPUNKY-FUCK HAS PROVED WHAT HE REALLY IS AND THAT IS A FUCKED UP LITTLE RODENT
Seriously, his father should've settled for the massage. Clearly, Spunky Fuck is the result of what happens when COUSINS HIT THE SACK TOGETHER.******************PS- I FUCKED AMBER LAST NIGHT SPUNKY**************************PPS- I FUCKED AMBER REAL HARD
LAST NIGHT SPUNKY********************PPPS- IN FACT, I FUCKED AMBER DOGGY STYLE LAST NIGHT SPUNKY, ASK HER.
To: Brooks - 11/21/99 03:41:12
Comments:
Brooks - 11/21/99 03:25:25
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com, I like that e-mail address. Best to you. Only Sarah Michelle Gellar has suspect blood chemistry. HGPig
To RoXy - 11/21/99 03:37:33
Comments:
This is the more exact link..http://medstat.med.utah.edu/kw/derm/acne/08vu.htm. Best to you. HGPig
To RoXy: from HGPig - 11/21/99 03:30:33
Comments:
Type three (#3) would be considered the inflamed CLOSED type, in which the SAME lesion(s) would persist beyond 5-7 days. This lesion is usually painful, red, and has no whitehead, and does not respond to any conventional therapy (vs. accutane). This lesio
is also prone to scar after maturation. I know 80mg per day seems alot, but if you can tolerate dosage escalation by increments (say even 40x1 plus 20x1 totaling 60mg per day), then you might benefit. Reference to "cuddlies :)") can be viewed by type in
many of the useful links provided by helpful posters here at this site. Shawn posted a site, I am not sure if this is the one....http://medstat.med.utah.edu/kw/derm/. I have many links, I'll have to review them from my files. Best to you, HGPig
Brooks - 11/21/99 03:25:25
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
Day 8: Hi! It's me Brooks. Dry lips and skin is looking a little better. I don't have it that much but have not had a breakout in a week since I'm on it. If there's anyone that needs to talk to someone you can always e-mail me. I'm on my second course of
ccutane I had to get off of it the first time beause of abnormal blood resutls. Have anyone else have had abnormal results. Hopefully the blood test that I will have on Dec 6-12 will be okay which mean I can stay on it! Hope to hear from Teenagers of my a
e or anyone is welcome to e-mail me! GOOD LUCK!
RoXy - 11/21/99 03:19:11
Comments:
what are type#3 lesions? How am I supposed to know if I have them...80 mgs a day PIG? i only weigh 101 pounds??? please reply
Well This - 11/21/99 02:55:53
Comments:
"Well this used to be a good web site, until I didn't get my own way. ""Well this used to be a good web site, until democracy ruled, and I didn't get to throw out HG, and everyone else's comments that I did't agree with." "Well this used to be a good web
site, for I only wanted things about acne to be posted here (except for puucky, puucky he should be allowed to spit and curse on everybody, cause his psyche's weak, everyone else's is meaningless). "Well this used to be a good web site, but I came here fo
only acne, except my comments should have been allowed to scrutinize others here, define what "simple" means, and declare which one's are relevent, but no one elses" "Well this used to be a good web site, but all phrases and comments are no longer just
he way I want them, and parody began to tell the truth." "Well this used to be a good web site, as only I should have been to able define what "dribble" means." "Well this used to be a good web site, but many here began to really answer tough questions, n
t be lazy, do technical research, and help each other find useful links." "Well this used to be a good web site, but I chose to overlook the majority of excellent posts, and uplift one or two bad apples, to bring everyone else down to the sewer.""Well thi
used to be a good web site, but I found out that acne is more than one simple thing, with one simple solution, and involves psychology, stress or hormones" "Well this used to be a good web site, but I did't get my own way like I usually do and slimeball
my way over those making the best contributions, by going to the school board, and crying and whining my way, stomping on the floor, and threatening my parents like I did when I was a kid"... "Well this used to be a good web site..............
Brooks - 11/21/99 02:50:20
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
To Jamie: I've been on Accutane for a week....If you wanna chat give me a shout!
Brooks - 11/21/99 02:48:14
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
To Jamie:
I started Accutane 1 week ago! If you have any questions e-mail me! I'd be happy to chat with you!
To: RoXy...FORGIVE ME - 11/20/99 21:59:45 - 11/21/99 00:47:39
Comments:
To: RoXy...FORGIVE ME - 11/20/99 21:59:45
Comments:
Forgive me RoXy, I don't have the luxury of "beach bumin", I had clients today, now I'm back. I wanted to know your lesion (shall we call them "little cuddly bumps") count, because you have been on the medication for 10 weeks. Six, IF THEY ARE THE CLOSED
FLAMED TYPE #3 cyst are too many. If they are these, you may need to increase the dose to 40mgx2 everyday. Also, to the existing "little cuddly bumps", use Renova on these (Renova is also a retinoid, but claims less irritating due to the addition of emol
nts). Again, I had clients today on my regular hours. Best to you. HGPig.
Go for it steve hinklehopper - 11/20/99 23:28:14 - 11/21/99 00:45:20
Comments:
Go for it Steve! Talent always rises to the top. You can do it! Best to you. HGPig
To Michael contnued..from below... - 11/21/99 00:32:01
Comments:
...meaning they are NOT comprehensive enough. Best to you.
To: Michael - 11/21/99 00:29:54
Comments:
I see it wasn't very hard "to wade" through so very very millions and zillions of items to post. The answer to your Pro-Active question is: Nothing advertised WITHOUT a prescription, is not comprehensive enough to control type 2 to 3 severe inflamed nodu
es, particularly the "closed" type. There have been some past posts on Pro-Active, but those I have reviewed, the posters eventually had to move to prescription pharmaceuticals. Best to you.
To: the one writing, " Amazing how one can post a simple note " - 11/21/99 00:10:44
Comments:
You defend the one you say, so fragile 17 and 18 years old. Yet you fail to mention at the same time the violence of his cursing and swearing words AT many posters here who are also 17 and 18 years of age. That's hypocrisy. Look in the mirror.
You write..... - 11/20/99 23:58:44
Comments:
..." the defensive people". And then your the one that wrote such a "simple note" in your words. Your true colors are flying, and your vulgarity I see now too. This board will be truly missing your great "short simple" kind words.
NEXT COURT EPISODE COMING SOON! - 11/20/99 23:52:36
Comments:
CNN BREAKING NEWS...CNN BREAKING NEWS.....Natalie Allen reporting......."We go now to the promenade below the red brick HGPig trial, where currently there is an important debate from the local community council." "It seems to be currently attempted to be
ed by an unnamed stranger" "Wait a minute!!! the stranger seems to know what it means to "dribble"....and is declaring now, "NO DRIBBLE!" gulpty gulp "NO DRIBBLE!" gulpty gulp". The Boyz are shouting "GO POOFSTER!" "GO POOFY!" ......"Natalie Allen reporti
g"...now back to the studio for the NCAA scores
- 11/20/99 23:47:20
Comments:
Amazing how one can post a simple note and get a rise out of all the indignant people!! Wow is everyone so defensive....I just find really large posts describing court cases boring as this is not why I choose to visit this site. I choose to visit this sit
because I have also suffered from acne. By the way I have read all the postings and the archives, with the exception of the babbling nonsense that some people post. I do have to say that it's really too bad this site has become a venue for amateur writer
, and holier than thou assholes as I found it to be a very informative site. Well Gillian, I will no longer be browsing here as I find no useful acne info on this site any longer. Just a bunch of children who don't have a clue about anything.......too bad
..it used to be a great site.....I'll be checking out the other one's from now on.
michael - 11/20/99 23:44:13
Gender: male
Comments:
has anyone tried "ProActiv Solution" with any good results? ive seen the infomercials on it and it seems Really promising. please give me a brief on it, i would appreciate it. thanks.
To the one who claims "to have been reading here, the better of the afternoon" - 11/20/99 23:37:40
Comments:
Amazing the time on your hands. Have you really read the posts, and the archives? And your the one claiming "not to judge". Get a history on the subject before you speak. Or are you just lazy? You seem to have plenty of time on your hands.
Yet you can claim that your comment below "is not a waste of time" and you insult those of us that have thoroughly enjoyed HG's posts and others. They are a breath of fresh air from negative stale posts like your own. Furthermore you state"I have to wade
hrough them" but you have no trouble "wading through" one who insults and speaks vulgar constantly on this board. People like you are what cause the horrors of 17-18 yrs teens today. You speak as if they are absolved from learning responsibility, yet they
can drive an automobile, capable of taking a human life anywhere anytime. Get with it, think before you speak.
Alex - 11/20/99 23:35:27
Gender: Female
Comments:
What is the purpose of Goat Soap? Does it really help?
Von - 11/20/99 23:35:15
My Email:eatmynuts@superduperblast.com
Gender: male
Age: 23
Comments:
no wonder why Spunky has so much time to post, hes a young kid whos on home study with no job and currently no life
Yet you can claim - 11/20/99 23:32:29
Comments:
Yet you can claim that your comment below "is not a waste of time" and you insult those of us that have thoroughly enjoyed HG's posts and others. They are a breath of fresh air from negative stale posts like your own. Furthermore you state"I have to wade
hrough them" but you have no trouble "wading through" one who insults and speaks vulgar constantly on this board. People like you are what cause the horrors of 17-18 yrs teens today. You speak as if they are absolved from learning responsibility, yet they
can drive an automobile, capable of taking a human life anywhere anytime. Get with it, think before you speak.
steve hinklehopper - 11/20/99 23:28:14
Gender: male
Age: 23
Comments:
ive been doing a little sould searching, and a little bit of drinking, and ive decided to make a career change. so i took a look at myself in the mirror and asked myself what im best at doing. i looked right back at myself and said YOU. YOU drink a lot an
you can sing. so now i wanna make it big as a big time singer.
steve hinklehopper - 11/20/99 23:28:06
Gender: male
Age: 23
Comments:
ive been doing a little sould searching, and a little bit of drinking, and ive decided to make a career change. so i took a look at myself in the mirror and asked myself what im best at doing. i looked right back at myself and said YOU. YOU drink a lot an
you can sing. so now i wanna make it big as a big time singer.
- 11/20/99 22:51:18
Comments:
Well, I've been reading this site for the better part of the afternoon.......And I have to add my opinion, wanted or not. First off, for those that are jumping all over Spunky. Bear in mind folks that this is a 17 year old boy who is still finding himself
and dealing with all the hardships of being a teen in today's society. To top that off he is going through acne and a very serious medication as well. We all have heard that accutane may cause depression so if Spunky writes in because he is feeling desper
te or down, we should be understanding of that as isn't this what this site is about???? Spunky, I know you are going to be ok!!! Just stick it out and remember that no matter what, things aren't always as bad as they seem!! On the other hand....HGPig....
all these stupid court cases and your mile long dribble I find offensive. I have to sit here and page through this rubbish just to get to a posting that has relevent acne information. I do think you have been help full in answering some questions but some
of your postings are a waste of time. For those asking about the red marks....I have been off accutane for about 4 months now and all the red marks are gone.....as a matter of fact, I haven't worn make up except to cover dark circles when I haven't gotten
enough sleep......hang in there everyone....things will get better and the results are terrific!!!!! Good Luck and Blessed Be
The previous post brought to you by - 11/20/99 22:26:10
Comments:
HGPig. Best to you.
Comes a Pale "Scaly" Horseman - 11/20/99 22:21:43
Comments:
Whence cometh from the east? A pale shrively old horseman. He comes salt laden and sagging, shouting insults, to hide his pain and fantasy. Drooped from his stead, left hand in tote, he carries a bent rimmed pale of goat's blood. Hurling claims "Eureka!,
ureka." "Nasty", "Red", "Unnamed Vulgars" morning, noon, and night. But the scroll has opened, let the lone bell toll...."when I was one-and-twenty, I heard a wise man say, give crowns and pounds and guineas, but not your heart away....give gold and pearl
, but keep your fancy-free, but I was one-and-twenty, no use to talk to me....."Now I'm two-and twenty...tis true tis true."
spunky - 11/20/99 22:11:01
Comments:
classy guy??? I am a classy guy, I'm just out of style for a while. And I consider myself very well educated (I go to trinity preparatory school thank you very much) well.. went, I don't go anywhere anymore (but I start back this spring) laters
To the Disproven "Christer" character - 11/20/99 22:06:05
Comments:
You give no scientific data or validity to substantiate your hear-say claims (go look up what "hear-say" means). The distribution for your claims are false, and the last data was less < than 2%. Get with it, and do your homework. We know nothing of your c
se history.
To: RoXy...FORGIVE ME - 11/20/99 21:59:45
Comments:
Forgive me RoXy, I don't have the luxury of "beach bumin", I had clients today, now I'm back. I wanted to know your lesion (shall we call them "little cuddly bumps") count, because you have been on the medication for 10 weeks. Six, IF THEY ARE THE CLOSED
NFLAMED TYPE #3 cyst are too many. If they are these, you may need to increase the dose to 40mgx2 everyday. Also, to the existing "little cuddly bumps", use Renova on these (Renova is also a retinoid, but claims less irritating due to the addition of emol
ants). Again, I had clients today on my regular hours. Best to you. HGPig.
mia - 11/20/99 20:12:07
Gender: female
Age: 19
Comments:
mathew - Im not recommending that you drink whilst on roaccutane, especially if your tryglycerides are high, but I have done several times. The first time I drunk a lot I had the hagover from hell the next day - Ive never felt that bad before, but on occ
sions since then when Ive drunk a lot more ive been fine. Do not take this as a recommendation to drink though. Someone told me that drinking whilst on the tablets isnt that bad and it only makes your liver work extra hard, but someone else claimed that
it can cause liver damage. I would be grateful if othr people could clarify this for me. Also what are the effects of taking a break from roacc. for a few days? More importantly, I would be really really grateful if someone could please tell me the effe
ts of taking other substances whilst on roaccutane.
Pam - 11/20/99 20:11:52
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
Hi ANGIE (22)...I was sorry to hear you were feeling so down...and I hope your appointment on Monday goes well...if it doesn't...and your derm insists on mucking you around with 'conventional' therapies first...I would strongly suggest finding another der
who treats acne more aggressively...best of luck for Monday...
UPDATE (month 11/12) - current dosage 20mg/day...except for the scarring my skin looks and feels superb...I still have two cysts in my left cheek...but they never get red, inflamed, or 'angry' anymore...and month by month they are consistently shrinking..
soon I will be going down to 20mg/3 x weekly...although I must admit I'm a bit anxious about taking this step...my derm left it up to me to decide...and of course I haven't done it yet...
Mathew - 11/20/99 19:37:24
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi everybody!
Does someone knows if drinking alcohol is prohibited during the treatment with accutane???
I will be waiting for the answer. THANKS
Emily - 11/20/99 19:29:10
My Email:starrbuck@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Comments:
TO SPUNKY:I really don't like your filthy e-mails. We're supposed to be here to support each other while we get through this. .....Anyways, I don't want to be mean but I am beginning to wonder what this Amber is like. Any girl who goes out with a guy w
o swears like you has also got to have problems. Trust me. Classy chicks go for nice, educated, good tempered, witty guys who own a wool knit sweater. We don't really care what kind of car he owns. Obviously bringing up this Amber girl doesn't do much
to make us respect you and think you're a great guy.
Get that temper and mouth under control.
RoXy - 11/20/99 19:21:25
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To the person who asked about the number of pimples I have and where they are please respond...they are mainly from lower cheek to the jaw line. I already said how many (6 or 7) and if you are going to ask such personal information I think I deserve a re
ponse of some sort. I hope you arent denying me because I said something nice about Spunky...this is not a war here people..."cant we just all get along?" Sorry I could not resist.....thanks and please reply...your sweetsurfingscientistRoXy
Emily - 11/20/99 19:13:55
My Email:starrbuck@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Comments:
Accuatane is really working for me. I'm so happy. I used to hide my face but now I can put my hair up because I don't need it to hide my face. I don't know if accutane works for everybody, but when acne was ruining your life making you shy in public,
nything was worth it. I don't even have to wear makup anymore. Hang in there all! Be young, drink Pepsi! P.S. You don't need to order goat soap over the net. I was at the health food store yesterday (I'm not a health freak though- my dad went)and the
have bars of goat soap. I just started using it last night. Chao!
Derek - 11/20/99 19:02:39
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
HEY EVERY1. I'VE WAS ON ACCUTANE FOR 24 WEEKS. I STOPPED TAKING ACCUTANE ABOUT 3 WEEKS AND 2 DAYS AGO. IT TAKES ABOUT 2-3 OR EVEN A MONTH FOR THE ACCUTANE TO LEAVE YOUR SYSTEM. AND ONCE IT IS OUT OF YOU ALL OF THE REDNESS WILL ALL GO AWAY. MY FACE HAS CLE
RED UP SO MUCH SINCE I STARTED TAKING ACCUTANE. NOW I'M JUST WAITING FOR ALL THE REDNESS TO GO AWAY. IT SHOULD GO AWAY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. BUT I DON'T LET ACNE BOTHER ME B/C THE GIRLS SEE PAST THAT. SO DON'T LET THIS AFFECT YOUR LIFE. DO WHAT I DID.
THINK OF THE FUTURE WHEN YOUR FACE WILL B CLEAR AND YOU CAN LOOK UP AGAIN. BYE BYE :d
To Spunky - 11/20/99 18:34:23
Age: 36
Comments:
There is nothing more offensive than your posts. You post about how something feels, do you realize how it feels when reading your vulgarity. It doesn't feel good to me and probably there are others. Most people find out as they get older that they kno
less and less about life,things, etc. Around 17-18 is the Know-It-All age. And I noticed in many of your posts, you say "I think" or "I don't think" and I actually think you practice the latter. Picture if you will people in a position of respect using
the language that you are using. Or maybe just picture someone talking in front of a group of people in a room and using your language. What kind of people will be in the audience. In the case of your audience I picture prisoners held captive with no o
her place to go. Forced to listen to your vulgar mouth. Or if the audience chose to stay there what would they be like? Maybe children who speak the vulgar language or maybe --gosh I don't even know what group of people might clammer to hear such vulgar
ty. Surely, "I think" that most listeners here do not want to hear your vulgarity. Words are powerful and if you listen around you in life, you will find that it is not What you say but How you say it. I know I cannot give you any adivce because you Kno
-It-All right now and maybe even for a few more years, but I can ask that you refrain from posting vulgar messages. Thank you
Tommy - 11/20/99 18:10:09
My URL:http://www.Yahoo.com
My Email:blackmambazo60@hotmail.com
Gender: male
Age: 19
Comments:
Hello friends, romans and countrymen. Is everyone ok today. If things are getting u down, don't worry because things will definitely get better... I promise. The trick is just to try and grit your teeth and be brave; the buggers do go eventually but they
ave occassional tantrums!I've been on roaccutane for three and a half months and everything has improved,although it's not perfect yet. just hang in there. at the moment I'm at uni in england but am from South africa. I'm looking forward to going to cape
town for the millenium. Plenty of sun and surfing!Take care every1 and enjoy!!!
Tommy - 11/20/99 18:00:40
My URL:http://www.Yahoo.com
My Email:blackmambazo60@hotmail.com
Gender: male
Age: 19
Comments:
Hello friends, romans and countrymen. Is everyone ok today. If things are getting u down, don't worry because things will definitely get better... I promise. The trick is just to try and grit your teeth and be brave; the buggers do go eventually but they
ave occassional tantrums!I've been on roaccutane for three and a half months and everything has improved,although it's not perfect yet. just hang in there. at the moment I'm at uni in england but am from South africa. I'm looking forward to going to cape
town for the millenium. Plenty of sun and surfing!Take care every1 and enjoy!!!
- 11/20/99 17:59:19
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Angie - 11/20/99 17:55:44
My Email:horsesR4ever@juno.com
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
Thank you so much HGPig. I will copy that and give it to him. It fits me perfectly and I am hoping he will agree. I am so desperate and sad. Thank you so much. To the person who wanted to know about scars. In my case I had extreme acne. Very, very severe
ith cysts measuring an inch or more. I am very scarred with deep depressions in my skin from the cysts. They are permanent (another reason why I don't want to wait for a second course of accutane). The red marks do fade and most of mine have over the 4 ye
rs since my round with accutane. However, I still have red marks that are 4 years old. Most of the marks came from acne that developed during my course of treatment with accutane. As of now my acne is trying to come back. The problem will be convincing a
octor to give it to me because I presently have only one cyst near my eye and one on my back. The cyst though is a huge deep one. I do not want to wait until my acne gets "bad enough" to go on another course. I'm also severely emotional affected by acne.
t runs my life. Again, thank you all so much for your help. I am so nervous about Monday.
Angie
Tommy - 11/20/99 17:55:18
My URL:http://Yahoo.com
My Email:blackmambazo60@hotmail.com
Gender: male
Age: 19
Comments:
Hello friends, romans and countrymen. Is everyone ok today. If things are getting u down, don't worry because things will definitely get better... I promise. The trick is just to try and grit your teeth and be brave; the buggers do go eventually but they
ave occassional tantrums!I've been on roaccutane for three and a half months and everything has improved,although it's not perfect yet. just hang in there. at the moment I'm at uni in england but am from South africa. I'm looking forward to going to cape
town for the millenium. Plenty of sun and surfing!Take care every1 and enjoy!!!
RoXy - 11/20/99 17:28:35
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Spunky? Whats up bro? You are crazy, I think we would get along fine, thanks for caring about how I was doing....See everybody he is human. I just had to slept on it, I woke up fine. I think I am pissed because surf is flat! Anyways, someone asked how
any lesions I had (what a horrible word) and I have...six. They arent huge, and only last a couple of days but they are still there and I still feel like a monster...Why do you ask?? You better have some kind of response to this because I know I did not j
st tell the entire site my zit census for NOTHING! Thanks for the info ahead of time..The red marks are really my main concern...the are supposed to fade within four to six months post accutane, anybody know otherwise?
Christer - 11/20/99 17:12:49
My Email:skicka64@hotmail.com
Gender: male
Age: 24
Comments:
Accutane is a powerful medicine or I would prefer to call it vitamin. It is very similar to vitamin-A, almost the same. Changing one detail in it´s chemistry it gives Roche a medicine.
Vitamin A in high doses gives side-effects that are serious. It was found that many people hiking in Greenland in old days went crazy and also died there. It was found they had been eating polarbear-liver (which contains a large amount of vitamin-A). That
is the practical evidence for vitamin-A´s side-effects. There have been accidents when people have got a way too much vitamin pills also of course. Those side-effects from high doses of vitamin-A can be found in medical litterature. It is about 50+ side-e
fects from vitamin-A.
Accutane are very effective to "cure" acne. Mostly it comes back and you need another course of it. I recommend strongly that you take antibiotics instead of going on several courses than one.
Accutane affects every cell in your body! Not only your skin. Accutane is known to give psychiatric side-effects since long. Many dermatologist are unaware of this. They listens to Roche who denies this effect in some countries. In some countries they adm
t that it can give light depressions in some cases. There are thousands of suspected suicides while on accutane. The danger in this is that accutane can cause acut severe melancholic depression and psychosis which can lead to that the patient taking accut
ne can loose his mind and dont know what he is doing.
Why accutane is toxic to the nervous-system is still unknown. Despite the thousands of reports Roche still dont want to do researsches on this. They do a lot of profits on accutane.
I myself have been in contact with about 15 persons all saying that accutane gave the psychiatric side-effects, all from severe nightmares (to a point you dont want to go to sleep) to severe depressions. That is the most severe side-effects from accutane
rom my point of wiev. I have also been in contact with persons who have lost their hair, got permantly red faces, got severe pain in their bones.
Look at this site for more information. http://homepages.iol.ie/~grantsu/
Despite accutane have destroyed a big part of my life I understand that it is needed out there. And there are people who benefits greatly from it and it should not be banned. BUT the patients, who in most cases are very young SHALL be given the informatio
that it can give braindamages and other SEVERE side-effects.
Christer
spunky - 11/20/99 16:52:37
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you know what??????????????? I'm gonna be ok!! I"m gonna be my fine ass self again. WOOOHOOOOO... I'm over this. It's back to the beach. Oh and gill.. just kick me the fuck off ok?? no one wants me here anyway and ya know what.. I don't give a damn
because by then I won't have acne anymore. Acne will be gone./... just a few more weeks or so and to amber... I just have two words from last spring break ok?? ultimate devotion. I love you. And angie, I'll send you the tame pics first round ok?
Angie - 11/20/99 15:08:22
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
SPUNKY: I look forward to the pictures! MINDY: I live in Austin, Texas. I haven't yet filled you all in on my life. I am a 25-year old single mom with a beautiful son. I pray he never gets the genes that I got. I don't have acne so bad like I did i
high school, but I still have to wear make-up and it is still noticable. I have minimal scarring that make up helps with, but you know what i am tired of wearing make up and when i wear the make-up I attract every guy in site, but you know what I consta
tly have to wear the make-up after that and it becomes a game "how long can i keep my secret". People can say that we take our acne to seriously, but acne doesn't just consume and scar your face it scars your heart. A lot of you can remember a time of b
ing acne free, but I can not. If I ever have a clear complexion and can go out in public without make-up and feel free I will...........I don't know, but I will be happy. SPUNKY: Whats with the goat soap, I am new and never heard of the reason why you
ike it so, why? OTHER ANGIE: If that doctor doesn't help you out let me know and I know mine will. My derm is the best here in Austin, Texas and by the way to those of you needing another does but can't afford it. My derm was going to write accutane
letter asking for a free 5 month session if my insurance didn't cover it. I pay $10/mos for a drug that usually costs about $410 so ask your derms if they can get you some free Accutane. I am so glad that I found this website. I swear there is no one
lse in a 100 mile radius of me that has acne, lucky bastards! HAHAHAHAHA
spunky - 11/20/99 10:18:45
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I was looking for the goat soap( my step-sis uses it too) and I found this. It's called ocean potion and it gontains tea-tree gel and aloe vera. anyone evr heard of it?? looks like a winner to me. ugghhh, smeels weird though.
jasmine - 11/20/99 09:46:02
Comments:
sorry for posting again. I was thinking how great it will be for us if some computer genius can set up a chat room here??
Jasmine - 11/20/99 09:41:37
Gender: female
Age: 19
Comments:
Hi there its me..End of week 8 and still looking like a red crab face.To Rasmus Groth.........Hmm i think You can find a moisturiser that contain salicylic acid,that can prevent new zits from growing.i am using cleAN &CLEAR moisture balancing moisturiser
y Johnson and Johnson.Its quite gd in fact.It can moisturise dry areas and prevent new zits from appearing at the same time!
To spunky.....seems like i have the same experience as urs.Abt the dryness of ur skin,i think u can use a facial sponge( a soft one definately for washing)to wash ur skin with a gentle cleanser,that helps tp get rid of dead skin and then u can apply a ton
r containing witch hazel with a cotton ball (dampened with water) to apply.and then follow by a moisturiser.I think that helps a lot for me!Gd luck!
Angie...... Your skin is very sensitive when taking accutane that's why it scars easily.I am in the same boat as u.
hg pig....hey thanks for ur advice i think that really helps to get rid of the dead skin!but i think i found a better way ,that is to use a sponge to rub off the dead skin while washing.My skin is less dry now!
well,all the best to u and really dread of next week cause its my birthday and i really dun wanna celebrate it cause i dun want to look like a crab in front of my friends!Guess i have to make some excuse again to turn down the celebration.But on the other
hand,i really dun have the heart to deceive my friends since they are so sincere abt celebrating....sigh..i think from now onwards, i will really take extra extra care of my skin.I think think eating foods containing a lot of sugar cause my breakout.hmm
o i have decided to cut off from all the junk food and sweets.But really afraid of having no discipline esp after my skin has cleared... well anyway although its not easy to go thruogh all this,but lets look forward to the future.There will surely be a ti
e when our skin will look as clear as ........( cant think of anything thats clear at the moment)so brighten up!tommorrow the sun will still shine as brightly as ever and remember God is always with u!
Lewis - 11/20/99 09:25:01
My Email:lewis992000@yahoo.com
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
Does anyone use a DERMALUX AV LAMP {www.dermalux.co.uk}. If so can they email and give me their thoughts as I am thinking about buying one - but don't know whether it's worth £200. Thanks!
spunky - 11/20/99 09:17:51
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this is not stress. this feels good
- 11/20/99 09:06:39
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Try to relax a little here. All this stress is making the acne pop up like crazy and if you guys wanna fight, do it somewhere else plz. Spunky...this is not a competition or something like that. If you have nice skin, that's nice for you. I tried your
soap and it worked fine, thanx for that. But plz chill a little, ok! The thing is, I'vce had sex to and also in a car, but that is nothing anyone here cares about. Your soap worked for me so if you have any more advice that you know that work, post the
. Your sexlife doesn't help me at all so I don't really care about it, so plz use this forum like it's supposed to be used and talk about acne and things that help us get rid of it.
- 11/20/99 08:59:52
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I'd like to buy the world a home...furnish it with love...grow apple trees...honey bees...and snow white turtle dove...dum-dum, dum, dumm !
spunky - 11/20/99 08:50:47
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from accutane. just like the side effects say... so guess what I've been waiting for that for 3 long hors for u to sat that. You ready?? send angie your pics.. any damn one. cmon, lets see hoe tough you are. u wanna??? or are you too fucking ugly.
cmon, I'll take some pics right now, from 3 inches away. let's see who wins.. the "experiment, or goat soap and accutane. hello?? you there??? I gotta deal.. no?? u can't think of an excuse???? cmon you lying piece of shit. You decieve every singl
mother fucker on this board with your BULLSHIT!!! I told you you couldn't post your ingrediants!!!! you are such a liar. what happened to your everyday prgress posts??? look back and see why.. the day I came on here and said it was BS you started bei
g this MY character. Eberyone on here knows it and so do you.. do u see pleasure in ruining everybody. LORI!!! don't listen to this guy. Don't stress over all this. simply put the pill in your mouth and swallow. don't think about anything. Especia
ly this idiot. so what about the pics pig??? have a deal??? and don't ignore my questions.. (like u did to silena and tons of other people... YOU KNOW YOU ARE A LIAR and so do a lot more people. post your "ingredients" ??? and don't just post the i
grediants of isotretinoin.. we can all read that. let's see your MAGIC. cmon little piggy
WOW WEE!!!!!! - 11/20/99 08:37:53
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Scaly skin, "red in places..never before"...Overall "nasty". Wow, the goat's milk is doing great!
spunky - 11/20/99 08:31:53
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a liar.. hmmm.. that's wrong (besides my name and my car) and what else..... that's about it. and pig, why are u talking to yourself???? that's a sign of a manic depressive person. I'm done wasting my time with you (for now of course). back later t
ough, I gotta go back to bed
to the igno,,, - 11/20/99 08:30:04
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....have fun bathing your "scaly" with your miracle goat's blood. Wow! Goat's milk, it sure is the rave here isn't it?
To the igno...... - 11/20/99 08:27:15
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..the pig's not an idiot, nor exhibitionist, liar, nor filthy mouth malicious, and has confidnece enough not to have to go throwing and flaunting himself nor his girlfriends to the world.
spunky - 11/20/99 08:21:13
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lastly, if u want to waste 10 minutes (and 1 dollar or so) then u can always call me and maybe we can have a decent conversation and understand each other. Oh and to anyone who needs to talk (especially girls, we get along well) I'm always here (407)696-
512
spunky - 11/20/99 08:19:26
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one more thing. If u don't believe that story or anything about goat soap or whatever, I probably have an email to prove it so if u want proof.. I got it. sorry pig. looks like your not gonna win.
spunky - 11/20/99 08:18:01
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that's no prob. odd that your trying to be nice to me.... but anyway. It was homecoming night and afterwards we all went to denny's (there was like 30 of us) Anyway, me and amber ( and some more people) never got a chance to eat. So we all went to suz
nne's house but amber was starved so we told everyone we were going to go back to denny's. Anyway, we went to denny's and ate but the we got back in the car and I was like " you love me right?" expecting her to say yes she said no. Anyway, to make a lon
story short, turns out she was really horny, wanted it in the car, lasted longer than we though, suzanne called her mom, her mom called the cops. Her mom went through amber's backpack, diary, email, everything and found out EVERYTHING (like in detail)
nyway, she thinks I"m the devil and who knows how long it wil be b4 it gets back to normal. I love her to death though so I'll wait forever. And to the pig.. how old are u.. where are u from??? adrian
to spunky - 11/20/99 08:09:58
Comments:
oh, and do you really think this amber is going to like you posting her personal letters to YOU on the net?
to spunky - 11/20/99 08:05:26
Comments:
what's the story with the mom? why do you have to look over your shoulders? i wouldn't usually be this nosey, but you put your dirty laundry out.
spunky - 11/20/99 07:56:06
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wanna know exactly what amber thinks of me.. as of yesterday???? this a letter she gave me "hello to mu favorite person in the whole world! I miss you so incredibly much. I'm not too worried anymore though. I know that me and you are stronger than al
of this. Also, it seems as if somethings are getting better. I've been thinking a lot about us lately, especially compared to other couples. I couldn't think of even one who comes remotely close to what we have. You are the best boyfriend I, or anyon
could ever even ask for. You treat me so good, and I know sometimes it may seem that I don't appreciate you or things you do for me, but I do, I swear. You mean more to me than anything ever has, I just want to be with you all of the time. I wish more
than anything that I could be. But, hopefully, in time things will be back to normal. I know they will be, and we we will be even closer (if u can imagine that). I just want to hold you and kiss you and not be afraid anymore. I don't want to have to ke
p looking over your shoulder for my mom, I JUST WANT TO BE WITH YOU. I want to love you and kiss you and snuggle with you and for you to give me lots and lots and lots of back massages! :) Now I know you miss that ! I miss you sooooooooooo much! And I lo
e you so so so so sooooooo much. I love you! I love you! I love you! Talk to you very soon hopefully!!! I love you!!!! P.S- cherish this letter forever, it's way too pretty to throw away! :)
so... you think she hates me huh. Also, you should see this letter, it must have take 2 hours to decorate. when you get these almost daily, and I give her flowers all the time. And everyone says we're perfect. Sor
y pig, but jealousy is a bitch
spunky - 11/20/99 07:37:55
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hey pig... gotta question. In simple english, less than 3 lines, give me the igredients, I know you can't
To Spunky: - 11/20/99 07:18:56
Comments:
There's a reason Amber's mom is such. Ladies are ladies, they deserve to be lifted up. Do you think Amber will last with what's INSIDE you? Wake up man, and do some work.
Are you going back.... - 11/20/99 07:13:58
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...down to the beach and waste some more of your life cursing at the waves. How long do you think Amber will last with this inside of you? I guarantee it. Look above you, this board is about to eliminate your self-centered filthy mouth. Get with it man.<
r>
To "Spunky" - 11/20/99 07:09:18
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There's nothing to prove from somone who has nothing to say filthy mouth, and apparently doesn't even know how to work.
To "Spunky" - 11/20/99 07:07:38
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You keep proving your a bore, with nothing to say, and your filthy mouth will come back to you, maybe not now, but someday somewhere. I pity you. HGPig
spunky - 11/20/99 07:05:25
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oh and pig, that's supposed to be you prove me wrong, you've never proven me wrong. Just thought I'd clarify that. :) you fucker.
To the one called Spunky: - 11/20/99 07:04:01
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I have not seen ANYTHING posted helpful by you at all to ANYONE HERE. Your boring and a bully, and I'll take you on ANYDAY. Do you even know how to help anyone?. I tried to help you youself below, is that how you spit on people here? You have not read the
posts, or you would know of the ingredients of the experiment. Are you that lazy not to have truly read the posts? Get with it, and back up your words for a change. HGPig
spunky - 11/20/99 06:57:26
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at the same time, I'm still scared. Amber's mom picked up when I was talking to her. It's not fair anymore, I'm so sick of her mom. She has no respect for love. I can't see the only person I love.. I can't wait till spring, I get tan again, I dyed my
hair yesterday, what an improvement, I get my teeth bleached in 9 days!!! and then I get my contacs refilled again and I'm going for a mad abercrombie shopping spree. And I'll have amber, and no more acne and you know what I will be allright.. yea, I'll
be ok.
spunky - 11/20/99 06:51:41
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hmmmm, I'm starting to have doubts about this HgPig character again. Remember what happened last time pig?? As soon as I said that you "experiement" was BS you never talked about it again. Who the hell are you anyway, and why do you make everyone sooo
tressed out??? I mean imagine how (for example) lori feels right now?? you just asked her a whole shit load of meaningless questions and what do you think goes on inside her head when she answers them and then you tell her all of this things she's been
oing wrong???? If she's vunerable (like a lot of ppl on here) then she will worry about it forever and think that she has been "wasting her time" so far. I mean cmon, you think you are some tough shot expert... ya right. All that BS before and what abo
t now. Do you actually think you are doing anyone any good at all??? You think I'm just some egotistical 17 year old that doesn't know jack shit huh???? well, angie will tell you really soon how wrong you, and everybody else on thi site is about me. S
you need to stop making people think that they are doing everything wrong. Take my friend bobby for example. He takes 80 mg a day, usually without food, he doesn't give a damn, sometimes he'll miss a day, sometimes he'll take 4 one day. He is perfectl
clear after 9 weeks. Just proves that is this bullshit about sunscreen, the time of day, food's that you eat (he eats more chocolate that ANYONE I KNOW) stress, sleep, exersize (he plays basketball and baseball) So you need to stop making everyone thin
that they have to do EXACTLY as you say because everyone seems to think that you are the acne God and you know you aren't. So stop manipulating everyone. Wanna know how to take accutane???? pill in mouth, swallow. Accutane (apparently) is a Godsend.
So far, I disagree but we are soon to see. It is helping, it's just not what i expected. P.S- where are you from and how old are you. And your a guy right (what a disgrace). P.P.S- I'm not saying that I"m perfect. I'm very emotional and have terrib
e periods everyday, but I don't think that I am the king of everyone like you do. YOu have still NEVER POSTED THE INGREDIANTS IN YOUR EXPERIMENT.. sorry your such a fucked up guy. I mean, you become this psycho named MY for a while and all kinds of c
azy shit. Who the hell should ever believe you again??? you need so much help. Why don't you just act like a normal person and stop screwing around.. or would you like to prove me wrong again. P.P.S-.. actually, nevermind, I"m sick of wasting my ti
e with you. actually one more thing, I hope you try to make a comeback and say how weird and emotional I am and how weird I am for posting 5 times a day but look back the last three months and see how much REAL ADVICE THAT WORKS that I"ve given. Go to h
ll asshole and stop fucking with everyone, you just make things worse
To RoXy: - 11/20/99 06:23:53
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I'm curious about your current lesion count (you last stated you had an erruption on the chin area). Also, I am interested the localized areas if any. Thanks. Best to you.
To Lori: From HGPig - 11/20/99 06:12:37
Comments:
What are your dose mgs, and schedule? Also, when during the day, and what method do you use for oral administration? Best to you. HGPig
Even for the Toddler - 11/20/99 06:08:49
Comments:
J Pediatr 1999 May;134(5):644-8
Toddler-age nodulocystic acne.
Mengesha YM, Hansen RC
Section of Dermatology, The University of Arizona Health Sciences Center, Tucson, AZ, USA.
Toddler-age nodulocystic acne is a rare disorder for which the etiology remains unknown. We report 2 cases and discuss the safety and efficacy of oral isotretinoin therapy. Oral isotretinoin is safe and effective in treating this condition but requires cl
se monitoring.
PMID: 10228304, UI: 99246414
Lori - 11/20/99 05:45:04
My Email:laurie@thegrid.net
Gender: female
Age: 31
Comments:
I've been on Accutane for 7 weeks now. I'm impatient because the affects are not showing like I thought they would. How long were you on Accutane before you saw real improvement? Does Accutane help with previous acne scarring? I'm am a single mom with
two kids and my stress level is significant. I think that's where my acne originates. Does accutane help with stress induced acne? If you know the answers, I'd like your input!
Thank you,
Lori
spunky - 11/20/99 05:40:29
Comments:
Roxy.... hey girl are you there??? I hope your ok. I know how you feel in a way though and if you want someone to talk to then I'll be somewhere near. You can email me or don't feel stupid if u want to talk.. the # is (407)696-6512, it's my line so I
ll pick up.
To Angie again from HGPig: - 11/20/99 05:31:55
Comments:
I just wanted to reiterate abstract #5 conclusion which fits you.
CONCLUSIONS: Our recommendation is that oral isotretinoin should be prescribed not only to patients with severe disease but also to patients with less severe acne, especially if there is scarring and significant psychological stress associated with their
isease. Acne patients should, where appropriate, be prescribed isotretinoin sooner rather than later. Publication Types: Clinical trial Multicenter study Comments: Comment in: Dermatology 1999;198(4):404-6 PMID: 9252756, UI: 97396565 TELL YOUR SPECIALIST
HIS..."Thank you for helping me , I've followed the antibiotic schedule you gave me. I will not take tetracycline anymore, as it is discoloring my teeth (basically universal) and I have checked through the medical research data and to be frank with you, w
nt only accutane based on my case history and the research data. I'm not going to waste my time nor money, and most of all I am concerned about scarring such as these" (at this point to suspect scar location)"Further I don't want scars to have any permane
t effects, lets go forward with accutane please" (If you can't remember everything, make sure you tell the specialist about the tetracycline effect). Once they are notified, they are responsible for consequences. I have a heart too, but sometimes you just
have to stand up and be counted! Copy all this, and transfer to your disc. Best to you. HGPig
To Angie!!!!!!!Take this Abstract with You to the Dermy. from HGPig.. - 11/20/99 05:26:56
Comments:
I WANT YOU TO TAKE THESE ABSTRACTS READ OVER THEM, AND THEN TAKE THEM WITH YOU TO YOUR DERMATOLOGIST>^^^^^^^^^^^^ABSTRACT NUMBER 1#...J Am Acad Dermatol 1992 Dec;27(6 Pt 2):S2-7
Guidelines for optimal use of isotretinoin in acne.
Layton AM, Cunliffe WJ
Leeds Foundation for Dermatological Research.
Isotretinoin is most effective for patients with acne who fail to respond to other forms of treatment; virtually all patients respond to isotretinoin, 0.5 to 1.0 mg/kg/day. As many as 61% of patients are cured after one course, but 39% require further iso
retinoin (16%) or oral antibiotics (23%). The relapse rate can be reduced by the administration of the higher dose of 1 mg/kg/day (thus achieving a significant cumulative dose of > 120 mg/kg), especially to young patients and men with truncal acne and mor
severe disease. About 85% require a 4-month course, but 15% require longer treatment, with some up to 10 months. There are several reasons for a slow response to treatment, including the presence of macrocomedones, ovarian dysfunction, and as-yet unknown
factors. Macrocomedones can be treated with light cautery, ovarian dysfunction with hormonal therapies, and in those persons who have no obvious explanation for slow response, persistence with isotretinoin alone is required. Repeat courses of isotretinoin
can also be given. Six years ago most patients treated with isotretinoin had severe acne (60%), but today most patients (60%) have therapy-resistant moderate acne. Isotretinoin is a consideration in such patients to reduce the physical and psychological e
fects of acne, particularly because there is no simple method to treat acne scars.
Publication Types:
Review
Review, tutorial
PMID: 1460120, UI: 93094392
ABSTRACT NUMBER #2:Br J Dermatol 1993 Sep;129(3):292-6
Isotretinoin for acne vulgaris--10 years later: a safe and successful treatment.
Layton AM, Knaggs H, Taylor J, Cunliffe WJ
Department of Dermatology, United Leeds Teaching Hospitals Trust, General Infirmary at Leeds, U.K.
The purpose of this study was to assess the long-term benefit of isotretinoin in otherwise therapy-resistant acne. We also assessed risk factors which might influence the long-term outcome. We studied 88 patients (mean age 20.8 years), most of whom had su
fered from acne for many years (mean 7.4 years). They received isotretinoin in an initial dose of 0.5 or 1.0 mg/kg/day. The dose was subsequently adjusted according to response and side-effects. Most patients only required 4 months' therapy to produce at
east 85% clinical improvement. The patients were seen up to 10 years post-therapy (mean 9 years). Sixty-one patients were still virtually clear of disease. Of the others, 16% required further treatment with conventional antibiotics and 23% required a seco
d course of isotretinoin. Of those who relapsed, 96% did so within 3 years of stopping therapy. The patients' age, sex, and duration of acne did not influence outcome. However, in patients with predominantly truncal acne, especially when severe, there was
an increased incidence of relapse. Sebum excretion is known to correlate with acne severity, but the long-term degree of sebum suppression was found not to be related to relapse. The dose schedule, in particular cumulative dose, was an important factor in
determining relapse rate. Those patients who received 0.5 mg/kg daily, or a cumulative dose of < 120 mg/kg, had a significantly higher relapse rate than patients receiving a larger dose. We did not elicit any long-term systemic or biochemical side-effects
We conclude that isotretinoin is a safe and effective therapy.
ABSTRACT NUMBER THREE:Riv Eur Sci Med Farmacol 1992 Jul-Aug;14(4):215-20
Long-term effects of isotretinoin in the treatment of severe nodulocystic acne.
Falk ES, Stenvold SE
Department of Dermatology, University Hospital, Tromso, Norway.
One hundred and sixteen patients with severe nodulocystic acne were treated with 0.75 mg/kg isotretinoin daily for 6 months. One hundred and seven (92%) were completely healed or markedly improved at the end of treatment compared to 94 (81%) 42 months lat
r. There was no significant difference in the clinical response between male and female patients. Seven of the 40 female patients gave birth to 7 fully developed and healthy children 39 months after discontinuation of therapy. Cheilitis (84%) and dry skin
(54%) were the most common side effects, the severity of the side effects being dose-related. Increased serum triglyceride values following treatment were found in 31 (27%) of the patients. A better life quality was experienced by 99 (85%) patients after
sotretinoin therapy.
PMID: 1305994, UI: 93303358
ABSTRACT NUMBER FOUR:Br J Dermatol 1997 Jul;137(1):106-8
Treatment of acne with intermittent isotretinoin.
Goulden V, Clark SM, McGeown C, Cunliffe WJ
Dermatology Department, Leeds General Infirmary, UK.
Adults with acne represent an increasingly important population of acne sufferers referred for treatment. Acne, in these patients, is generally mild or moderate in severity but tends to be resistant to conventional antibiotic therapy. A study was carried
ut to assess the efficacy of intermittent moderate dose isotretinoin as a treatment for acne. Eighty consecutive patients, over the age of 25 years, referred with acne unresponsive to, or relapsing rapidly after three or more courses of conventional antib
otic therapy were recruited. Acne severity was assessed on the face, chest and back using the Leeds grading scale and the number of inflamed lesions was counted at the site showing the highest acne grade. The patients were 22 men and 58 women. The treatme
t regimen consisted of isotretinoin, 0.5 mg/kg per day for 1 week in every 4 week for a total period of 6 months. Seventy-five patients completed the study. The therapy was very well tolerated with mild cheilitis as the only side-effect. At the end of tre
tment, both total acne grade and lesion counts were significantly reduced (P < 0.0001). The acne had resolved in 68 (88%) patients. Twelve months after treatment, acne grades and inflamed lesion counts remained significantly improved (P < 0.0001) in the 6
patients who responded; however, 26 (39%) patients had relapsed. There was a significantly higher incidence of relapse in patients with predominantly truncal acne (P = 0.01). Patients who relapsed also had a significantly higher total acne grade, lesion
ount (P < 0.0001) and sebum excretion rate (P < 0.001) compared with those whose acne resolved. This study suggests that intermittent moderate dose isotretinoin may be a cost-effective alternative to full dose isotretinoin in a carefully selected group of
adult patients with-acne. Selection criteria should include predominantly facial acne, total acne grade less than 1, inflamed lesion count less than 20 and sebum excretion rate less than 1.25 micrograms/cm2 per min.
Publication Types:
Clinical trial
PMID: 9274635, UI: 97420129
ABSTRACT NUMBER 5: THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE^^^^^^^^^^^Dermatology 1997;194(4):351-7
Roaccutane treatment guidelines: results of an international survey.
Cunliffe WJ, van de Kerkhof PC, Caputo R, Cavicchini S, Cooper A, Fyrand OL, Gollnick H, Layton AM, Leyden JJ, Mascaro JM, Ortonne JP, Shalita A
Leeds General Infirmary, UK.
BACKGROUND: Oral isotretinoin (Roaccutane) revolutionized the treatment of acne when it was introduced in 1982. METHODS: Twelve dermatologists from several countries with a special interest in acne treatment met to formally review the survey of their last
100 acne patients treated with oral isotretinoin. The primary purpose of the survey was to identify the types of acne patients who were prescribed oral isotretinoin and how the patients were managed. RESULTS: Of the 1,000 patients reviewed, 55% of those w
o received oral isotretinoin had those indications treated historically, i.e. severe nodular cystic acne or severe inflammatory acne, not responding to conventional treatment. Forty-five percent of patients who were prescribed oral isotretinoin however ha
either moderate or mild acne. Most patients in this group had moderate acne (85%). However, 7.3% had mild acne on physical examination. The criteria for prescribing oral isotretinoin in this less severe group of patients included acne that improves < 50%
after 6 months of conventional oral antibiotic and topical combination therapy, acne that scars, acne that induces psychological distress and acne that significantly relapses during or quickly after conventional therapy. Treatment is usually initiated at
aily doses of 0.5 mg/kg (but may be higher) and is increased to 1.0 mg/kg. Most of the physicians aimed to achieve a cumulative dose of > 100-120 mg/kg. Mucocutaneous side-effects occur frequently but are manageable while severe systemic side-effects are
arely problematic (2%). The teratogenicity of oral isotretinoin demands responsible consideration by both female patients and their physicians. Significant cost savings when treating acne patients with oral isotretinoin as compared to other treatment moda
ities were further proven in this study. CONCLUSIONS: Our recommendation is that oral isotretinoin should be prescribed not only to patients with severe disease but also to patients with less severe acne, especially if there is scarring and significant ps
chological stress associated with their disease. Acne patients should, where appropriate, be prescribed isotretinoin sooner rather than later.
Publication Types:
Clinical trial
Multicenter study
Comments:
Comment in: Dermatology 1999;198(4):404-6
PMID: 9252756, UI: 97396565
TELL YOUR SPECIALIST THIS..."Thank you for helping me , I've followed the antibiotic schedule you gave me. I will not take tetracycline anymore, as it is discoloring my teeth (basically universal) and I have checked through the medical research data and t
be frank with you, want only accutane based on my case history and the research data. I'm not going to waste my time nor money, and most of all I am concerned about scarring such as these" (at this point to suspect scar location)"Further I don't want sca
s to have any permanent effects, lets go forward with accutane please" (If you can't remember everything, make sure you tell the specialist about the tetracycline effect). Once they are notified, they are responsible for consequences. I have a heart too,
but sometimes you just have to stand up and be counted! Copy all this, and transfer to your disc. Best to you. HGPig
- 11/20/99 04:52:29
Comments:
ANYBODY KNOW ABOUT SPIRONOLACTONE?
RoXy - 11/20/99 04:45:42
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi, I am freaking out because I woke up this morning fine and felt a weird tingling feeling on my chin and in like 12 hours I "grew" this big old zit there???? Whats up with that? Why did it happen so quickly...WAIT why is it happening at all I am on my
enth week DAMN IT!!!!!!! I am really really upset right now, I never get like this but I am going to probably end up crying myself to sleep because I DO NOT THINK THIS IS WORKING...I am the classic case, 21 yr old, female, just started getting acne in he
20's and still has an oily nose at the end of the day....It has been ten freaking weeks!!! I am hurting here, help.
Mario - 11/20/99 04:14:45
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Comments:
Would you go up to a complete stanger with acne and tell them about accutane and how it may help? I mean, heck, what if they've never heard of it. It would just suck to see someone suffer that could be helped. How would you feel if someone asked the same
f you? It's not like people with afflictions need any reminders right?
Hang in there and deep breaths...air is free.
- 11/20/99 03:55:38
Comments:
Can someone please clarify what is meant by scars? Do you mean pits from big cysts or do you mean red marks from old pimples? I was told the red marks go away..Angie you said they last for years? I am totally confused and feel that I have been overwhel
ed with wrong information because of this site...people keep saying that this is a fact and that is the truth...I guess this is goodbye this site is too misleading and confusing for me..i am quite fragile and easily convinced when it comes to acne, I feel
like my brain has been kicked around. But I do want to say good luck to everyone and I will check back a few times a month, maybe someone will answer mt question about the scars then......Goodbye....
TO: Valory - 11/20/99 03:55:17
Comments:
You said you can't wear your contacts anymore. Was that during treatment or after treatment you still couldnt wear them?? Because I wear contacts and i want to be able to wear them after treatment.
Valory Smith - 11/20/99 03:44:21
My Email:valory0608@netzero.net
Gender: female
Age: 28
Comments:
I was on Accutane about 7 years ago after suffering acne for several years. I tried all of the topical ointments and oral antibiotics, nothing worked. I had to visit many dermatologists
to find one that would put me on Accutane. I weighed the pro's and con's, I was almost to the pint that I wouldn't leave the house. I was so despite by time I found a Dr. to give me the Accutane, I didn't care about the side effects.
Now, seven years later I am experiencing skin problems again. I cannot afford to go through the
Accutane, I have no medical coverage at this time.
I only experienced a few side effects from being on Accutane the fist time. I can no longer wear
contacts,daily I have to use nasal and eye saline
solutions and lots of lotion on my hands,legs and feet. I feel myself getting very depressed, as I did when I was a teen. Now I have horrible scars
and unsightly acne again. I need to find out what to do about the scars. I am sure I am not the only one my age with these problems but it feels
like I'm alone in this....
Angie - 11/20/99 03:32:49
My Email:horsesR4ever@juno.com
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
OK. I'll let you know exactly what happens. They have been nice so far, but it was what you call a "stall job" that broke my heart 6 weeks ago. Starting off with Tetaracycline and we will either beat it or fail miserably and move on from there. My heart s
nk because my list of drugs pre-accutane was:Tetracycline, Minocycline, Erytromicine, Doxycycline, retin-a, chemical peels, zinc therapy, ultr-violet light therapy, vitamins, creams and lotions and potions, acne surgery and everything else you can imagine
I don't understand why I have to wait until it is equally as bad as I had it before accutane. I didn't have bad side effects and it can help so many people. Why wait until you want to kill yourself you look so horrible. My cysts also scar me, every pimpl
leaves a permanent scar. I also used to get acne on my back, chest and bottom. I sit down in my wheelchair 24/7. It was very painful. I am starting to get acne on my shoulders now. God I hope I can convince them to skip the Minocycline and other crap tha
I know will not work.
Angie
Angie - 11/20/99 03:23:26
My Email:horsesR4ever@juno.com
Gender: female
Age: 22
Comments:
Hello again. Thank you all that have so far responded to me. You've made me feel a little better. I've got a little more guts now about telling my doctor exactly how I feel. Before I would try to shrug it off like there are worse things in this world. How
ver, the truth is it has totally consumed my life. I cry all the time and hide from the world. My derm started me out with tetracycline, but I know my acne that I had pre-accutane did not respond to any other treatment. I am very scarred from acne and sti
l have red spots that are 4 years old (even after 2 laser treatments). Even just being on the accutane would make me feel less depressed and even relieved. I am very worried about my emotional state. I realize how far down I am going. I eat probably once
day and don't even answer the phone. That is why I am praying that I will get a second round of accutane. I know it will kill it the second time because the first time killed it for 4 years. I try and keep myself busy, but sometimes it just is to much.
Believe it or not, acne has been FAR, FAR worse to deal with than being in a wheelchair. Being wheelchair bound really sucks but my acne is what has really ruined my life. Sometimes though the combination of the two makes it unbearable. Its a neuromuscula
disorder that hit me at 15, also when the severe acne did. Depression and stress make the disease progress faster and I have more and more trouble doing simple things. Sometimes, I want to just give up. I am afraid if I get a "no accutane" response on Mo
day I just might. I am glad that I met some people here. Talking helps a little.
I don't want to sound so selfish though. I hope I can help support you guys to. I know all to much how it feels. Please take care and keep your fingers crossed that I get somewhere on Monday (I'll let you know how it goes). Thank you all so much.
Angie
And One More Thing Angie - 11/20/99 03:21:54
Comments:
If your dermatologists doesn't prescribe you the accutane, I/we want to know why in his/her exact words. And if it's a "stall job", let's have his/her name, and we can blast it all over the net. ok!!! Best to you.
J - 11/20/99 01:32:13
Gender: male
Age: 20
Comments:
Hi angie, I admire your courage for trying to deal with your challenges. If accutane worked really well for you the first time, then tell your dermatologist what you told us and I see no reason why he/she wouldn't prescribe it again if is affecting your
ife so badly. Also, is it the acne that depresses you or being in a wheelchair that does? One thing that works for me when Im having weeks where im really struggling with my skin is to find ways to have fun by myself. Whether its renting movies, readin
, working on projects, surfing the net, watchin TV or whatever, just find something that you can do by yourself if you just don't feel like facing the world that day. By no means am i suggesting anti-social behavior, i myself am quite extroverted, its ju
t that there are times when all of us probably wishes we could just stay in be when are faces look bad. I know what its like to have to make excuses to not go out because I can't even hold my head up in public or look people in the eye. By finding somet
ing that interests you that you can do alone, you can buy time untill you accutane kicks in and clears up the acne. I hope your appointment with the Derm goes well, no right minded derm should deny you accutane if you feel the way you do. Keep us poste
and all the best.
Cindy - 11/20/99 01:19:57
My Email:Cindylking@aol.com
Gender: female
Age: 30
Comments:
I don't even know where to begin. I know that people who have never had to deal with this awful disease don't understand the psychological effect it has on a person. I can offically say, I have missed days of work, cancelled dates, "Hid out" in my home
nd cried for hours. IT just doesn't seem fair. ANyway....I'm currently on my 4th cycle of accutane and waiting patiently for something to happen. I'm still waiting. It has worked before but everytime I stress, I get more acne. I have tried everything
over the counter and nothing works. I've been on evey antibiotic known to man and they don't work. I can't even talk to my boyfriend about it. I'm too embarassed. I had porcelain skin when we met and over the past few months it has gotten really bad.
Now, I don't even want to see him until the accutane kicks in. I really don't know why I'm writing you this letter, its just nice to talk to someone who understands. I'm very lucky, no scarring. Hopefully this will be the last time I have to deal with
his. If anyone wants to chat about this, feel free to email me.
Angie your a babe - 11/20/99 01:18:49
Comments:
Demand the accutane!!! "Take no prisoners", even threaten legal action, if your dermy doesn't give way. Have the documentation that accutane should be given sooner than later, plus your history testifies that conventional therapy is a waste. DO IT!!! Tha
's an order! Best to you.
Angie - 11/20/99 00:55:26
My Email:horsesR4ever@juno.com
Gender: Female
Age: 22
Comments:
Hello everyone. I am going around the internet looking to talk to people. I am having a very hard time dealing with things. I had extremeley severe cystic acne at 15. At 19 I finally got Accutane. Its now 4 years later and acne is trying to come back. I'v
been on tetracycline for 6 weeks with no results. Emotionally, I am losing it. I have become obsessed with my skin. I dropped out of school (although I recently returned, but sometimes don't go), I never leave the house and constantly worry about it. It
as become so bad that I have already been told to see a shrink. I am very depressed. I see my dermatologist on Monday and am going to plead and beg for a second course of Accutane to kill it once and for all. I am also in a wheelchair. I hate life. If any
ne would like to talk I would love that, right now I feel I am at a dead end in my life. Thank you for any support.
Angie
Ricky - 11/20/99 00:47:49
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
im from texas
Vero - 11/19/99 23:20:32
My Email:VCruz@vto.com
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
I´m on my 4th week on Roacutane and I´ve noticed some blood when I brush my teeth, is it a side effect??
Vero, México
Cold water, pressure with cotton ball - 11/19/99 23:02:45
Comments:
Pressure with a cotton ball after cold water. Sometimes just lay a piece of tissue paper over the top and leave it there, however this method does leave open the possibility of re-opening the lesion when removed. Cotton is usually better, with pressure. B
st to you.
KLS - 11/19/99 22:49:21
Gender: male
Age: 19
Comments:
When you pop a zit, what's the quickest way to get it to stop bleeding?
In Private Chambers: CNN BREAKING NEWS...CNN BREAKING NEWS - 11/19/99 22:36:25
Comments:
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ney with all the rights mo^^^I mean background in these affairs".."Well HG, I think judging from her specialties, Ann Colter is an excellent choice.""I'll leave you two alone now to discuss the pertinant facts.".."Well HG, do you have any new information
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tter...".....MEANWHILE....>>>>>...CNN BREAKING NEWS...CNN BREAKING NEWS....."This is Natalie Allen reporting live from the sene of mass demonstrations and protests being held below the courthouse of the trial of HGPig, alias "Poofy", , "Take-a-Lock", "Fly
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Rasmus Groth - 11/19/99 22:31:01
My Email:rasmusgroth@usa.net
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
I have had problems with my skin for about six years now. I am currently on Roaccutan and it seems to be working very well. I have tried other methods with succes though and had long periods witout problems. Somehow I suspect some of these remedies - espe
ially topically aplied hormon and Benzoyl Peroxide to do harm to my skin that has made the problem com back with a vengance!
Currently I am trying to find a way to moisturize my skin without gettin new zits - which is a problem for me.
I am also worried about scarring. So far the scarring has been minimal but I want to treat my skin so that it doesn´t just look clean, but also feels good.
Regards
Rasmus - Denmark
Rene - 11/19/99 21:02:52
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hi Roxy, Interesting information! From reading this site (my opinion) is: I see that people did Accutane early on: 18 thru 22 then a second course around 26-32. Womens hormones are changing dramatically during these times of their lives. Their teenage
ears, to schooling/college, first, second jobs, children. I enjoy the way my skin looks - I feel it is going to be fine getting off Accutane until I have additional children. I feel once I have another child (2-3 yrs from now) the acne will return but
ow I am prepared to do Accutane again. Luckily my derm. explained that 30% of women get acne again after their first treatment of Accutane/having a child. The positive is that he explained that the acne is not as severe. Just a reminder to all that I a
28 and this might not apply to someone younger than I. Hope this helps, Rene
To Spunky from HGPig - 11/19/99 20:58:10
Comments:
I'm not exactly certain whether you are currently on 40mg/day now or that your meaning that your post-acccutane 40 mg?....Your skin will manifest itself as "scaly" whether or not your currently taking isotretinoin. The 28 day mean ave. exfoiliation is uni
ersal. Accutane accelerates the process. So the 28 day baseline exfoliation rate apppears frequently. It is essential that, whether your currently on accutane or not, that a higher than SPF quality sunscreen is used!!! I recommend above 50 SPF, or the Ne
trogena Non-Stick SPF 30. Post-scars will fade only if they are covered from light. I mean all light! I like to see Azelex applied to "scarred" areas immediately before going out in the morning BUT COVERED with an SPF 50 with titanium dioxide. SECONDLY, b
sure your not washing/showering more than twice per day. I recommend, as prevoius, DOVE WHITE UNSCENTED, in the morning (DON'T use the scented kind), you'll find the skin will appear better as the day progresses. At night, your WARM water (NOT HOT!!) sho
er, will take off all the sunscreen, etc., and the skin will look good/better. THIRD, be sure your not taking HOT washes/showers, this in itself will cause red chaffing to occurs, together with NON-protected areas of skin. Remember that the skin is BOTH a
protector of the body AND an "exhaust" mechanism (so to speak). Differential diagnosis is thus that "acne" ia a multi-factor etiology. The first meal of the day must be the most nutritional, as the body has worked to cleanse itself all night while sleepin
, it then wants to assimilate to the max first thing. That's why (and in my opinion why acne is near epidemic currently) I eat Broccoli n Lima Beans with Cheese, first thing right off. AND I EAT THESE ONLY WITH WATER. I WANT NOTHING TO COAT THE INTESTINAL
TRACT THAT MIGHT INTERFERE WITH MY FIRST MEAL. Then I'm clear later to eat chocolate, etc., Incidently, this is an every other day schedule. I'm going out in about 15 minutes to have a Wendy's Burger with a Bake-Potato-n-Chive. I'll have these with water
oo. Later in the day I'll have my giagantic thick Protein Lab Shake. (Note, I only have one Wendy's type meal per day on odd days). More later. Best to you HGPig
TO: Jewelz - 11/19/99 20:43:00
Comments:
I've been on accutane for a week and already a bunch of my hair is falling out. Did your hair stop falling out after the treatment was over?
spunky - 11/19/99 20:14:36
Comments:
ANGIE: I'm sending them today, two of me and one of amber. The only pics I have are from august (when I started accutane) at my dad's wedding. Hope you enjoy them... the one of amber is like 1 month or 2 ago. bye-bye. adrian anthony
RoXy - 11/19/99 19:40:27
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Thanks Rene, I was wondering what was going on. I looked up this site that talks about hormonal acne and it said something intresting about Accutane. It basically said that another reason Roche stresses taking birth control pills is because birth contro
basically shuts down ovarian function and hides the real problem, like tumors or even ovarian cancer. Which leads me to the interesting part, they said that when the acne comes back after accutane (in girls) it is usually because the hormones are being
crewed (by these tumors or growths)not necessarily the sebaceous glands...Do you guys see what I am saying? If you are interested I will elaborate via email..to all you girls out there, if you have irregular periods or increased darkening of facial hair
his is a good sign of hormonal imbalance which means accutane will be very temporary, if at all effective...If someone has a different expereince email me....i am confused now ...
Bob Topps - 11/19/99 18:03:05
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Mort: yes there are numerous studies showing correlation between smoking and lung cancer. I wont deny that the two are strongly correlated. WHERE are these controlled studies of food and zit s? Your just taking the know-it-all DR. route by saying that the
e is a PROVEN casue for ACNe. No there isnt one isolated casue so we can specualte. Stress? Can we be more vague here people? there are plenty of people in stressfull positions (models, actors) and they have damn good complexion!
Dr.: "There is no proof that food causes breakouts. Now go eat these pills."
Good Luck!
Rene - 11/19/99 17:52:05
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
HELLO EVERYONE - Someone posted if I got new pimples in the 10th week (I am in the 13th week) Yes I did. I was completely clear from the 8th thru 10th week and then 4 or 5 pimples for no reason and right in a row...one near the mouth, qtr of an inch righ
another pimple - another qtr. of an inch another pimple all the way to my jawline. Very strange. It was not my menstral time either. I went to the derm. last night and he decided not to do my blood - thank you! My viens always collapse and they have
heck of a time trying to take my blood. BUT the reason he decided not to was the last 3x's have been great results with only slight variation in the numbers. ABOUT DRINKING - He asked how much I drink. I explained on FRI - I have about 2 beers or wine
and on SAT - About 4 beers or wine - always out to dinner on SAT or BBQ or cooking at home for everyone. He explained that 2 drinks were fine but the four were harder on the liver while on Accutane - he asked that I bring the quantity back to 2. Even th
ugh I do not drink through out the week. It is the too much at one time that he is worried about. THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE THIS INFO. Hope this helps, Rene
Ivan - 11/19/99 16:25:26
My Email:nana957@hotmail.com
Gender: male
Age: 22
Comments:
I have been on roaccutance before and IT REALLY WORKS. No Kidding! :) My complexion has been cleared for abt 2 years ot so. However, my acne is back again !!!!!!!! I'm gonna go back on another does of roaccutance to try to clear up my face again. But ju
t a word of advice, after your complexion is clear, DO NOT take it for granted!!! Oh no, dun do it.
cos after I have a nice cutey face with no pimples, I got my life back and when to party and had late nights and ate all the junk food in the world. I think all these stuff/bad habits enlarged my oil glands again. so, the morale of the story is, take care
of your face even after it is cleared :)
And to those of ya afflicted with acne , dun take it too hard :) Roaccutance works! It does! But we're an unfortunate few who have very sensitive skin.That means, after our complexions are clear and we're all cute and handsome again, we still got to STAY
WAY from junk food, late nights and chololate etc etc Disclipine ! We got to have disclipine. :)
RoXy - 11/19/99 16:14:21
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hey, I am from Texas. South Padre Island...Anyway, I went to a smokey club last night and got all sweaty, (won the sexy legs contest) woke up and I am fine no new pimples!! I wasnt going to go because of a few spots and I thought HOW STUPID, I am 21 yrs.
old!!! A hundred dollars and a few new friends later I am so glad I went.....SOOO everybody just go out and have fun!! Dont be scared, alot of these people posting are like 17 - 29, this is your life no one, espeacilly ACNE, controls it but you, stop and
just GO! How silly we can be. I agree with the person who said that we should be less obsessive. I too see people in wheelchairs and think of how easy we have it. Its all in how you look at it guys. Luv Ya. Good luck to everyone with there treatment.
Mindy - 11/19/99 14:47:09
Comments:
Is anyone from Texas? I'd sure like to know. It would be great to have a support system down here.
Having acne and living with it sucks!
Angie - 11/19/99 14:44:55
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
Good Morning: I think? Anyway woke up this morning and my face look better, but as usual I have many milias. Those are the little whiteheads that get stuck in your poors that never come out. I hate those things. SPUNKY: Two things for you 1. yes I
will put my address on your email and you are so lucky to have Amber. I myself wonder how many men in my life have judged me or if i just thought they were. I have been on Accutane for 6 weeks and have not seen the results i want, but my derms said i wo
ld notice a huge improvement in about 6 more weeks. ohh well i have already waited 15 years.
WHERE IS EVERYBODY FROM?
Karen - 11/19/99 13:51:31
Comments:
Same place as yesterday - I'll be there.
spunky - 11/19/99 13:50:46
Comments:
well, I have to find a job. If no girls walk up and talk to me I'm gonna be PISSED!!! I'll be back soon, I need some serious help. Amber wrote me the sweetest letter today and told me how great I am and how much she loves me. She's so awesome.
spunky - 11/19/99 13:48:32
Comments:
I just had half a bag of carrots, 2 ears of corn and 2 glasses of water.. do you know how stupid I feel??? This is so pathetic, I want my face to go back to normal, I've been on 80 mg for 2 months and 40 on the last one. This is not good. Oh well.
spunky - 11/19/99 13:45:31
Comments:
heya.. u there????
Karen - 11/19/99 13:37:44
Comments:
Hey Spunky - How RU?
spunky - 11/19/99 13:15:35
Comments:
I can't eat these gushers, I can't eat that hershey bar, I can't drink that coke, I can't go out in tne sun, I can't have stress, what the hell am I supposed to do??? I have this feeling that I can't eat any sugar and I get so paranoid when I do. there
oes 1 pack of gushers.. hmm.. how bout that coke???? nahhh.. that's too risky
spunky - 11/19/99 12:49:15
Comments:
could someone please give me some advise... I am red in places I never had pimples. Also, does the morning light make your skin look the worst??? like 1 hour after the sun rises?? Mine looks terrible then. Someone please answer about scarring/redness
hile on accutane. Also, My skin just looks overall nasty.. is that because of accutane??? I mean, it looks rough and scaly... just a thought.
- 11/19/99 11:39:20
Comments:
Jamie - Firstly I want to wish you all the luck in the world with the Accutane (and getting your life back in order). I'm only a couple of weeks in and I'm also hoping that it gets rid of everything for good. I think I probably don't have it as bad as yo
as it certainly hasn't affected my life like it has yours - HOWEVER, I would like to make the following comment... You mentioned that "this is the worst thing that could happen to anyone". WRONG. Please could we all put this into perspective. It's dr
adful and makes life thoroughly miserable - but I am assuming that the vast majority of people on this site have full possession and use of their limbs, their sight, their hearing, their speach (the list could go on, but I'm sure you get my drift.) I am
lso an acne sufferer and have thrown numerous tantrums about how terrible it is to have a face like a pepperoni pizza but I just have to walk around London at lunchtime and see someone in a wheelchair and remember that at least I can take a couple of pill
each day and in a few months I'll (hopefully) be cured! Wishing the best of luck to everyone. K xxx
NORMA - 11/19/99 11:21:03
My Email:nerminehab@yahoo.com
Gender: female
Age: 24
Comments:
First of all I want to thank you about the information you have given to me .
I have been taking Roaccutane for a month & I wish to know a lot about its side effects , I mean are there any danger in taking these pills ?
So can you help me?!
I'm getting so worried as the time passes .
Jewelz - 11/19/99 11:07:09
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
I was on accutane about 5 months ago. It is my miracle drug and has given me back the person I lost when I had acne. I would recommend this drug to anyone who suffers from acne. I had many of the side effects, like the dry lips, eye dryness, joint pain
mood swings, hair loss (lots), and some other stuff too. But it was sooo worth it! I would do it again in a heartbeat just to be able to feel the way I feel about myself now and to be able to look into the mirror and see clear skin. Hang in there all
hose who are in the process of accutane... you'll love your end result. Promise.
spunky - 11/19/99 10:11:32
Comments:
I'm still convinced that accutane causes scarring due to the extremely long period of time in which things take to heal. Foe example, I cut my hand during at the beginning of my treatmeant and whadda ya know... 3 months later it's still right there. to
HGPig and anyone who wnats to respond... does this slower healing promote scars. I mean, a normal whitehead takes like 2 weeks to go away.. is that normal??? and to shawn, thanks for the site, makes me feel like a king :) ANGIE.. are u there. do yo
want those pics? And to ROXY, you are GREAT. You're like my twin sister that I never knew about. I'm going to travel to the keys tomorrow so I can catch some big ass swells of that hurricane. later, adrian. I'll email ya later but I gotta go sneak ob
r to my girlfriend's school now. And to jamie (I think), i'll email you ok. I know EXACTLY how you feel. I almost lost amber because we would just be sitting around and then all of a sudden I'd get up and just start acting weird, then I"d cry, and tell
her some BS sob story because I couldn't admit it. Anyway, that's about it. buh-bye
- 11/19/99 07:41:58
Comments:
From HGPig to New Users - 11/19/99 07:22:54
Comments:
One other note for new Accutane users, use discretion in importance of a good daily oral hygiene regimen. Do NOT brush your teeth TOO hard (consider soft brushing). The gum tissue surrounding your teeth will be more prone to bleed. Brush well, with great
are, do not be alarmed when or if bleeding occurs. Rinse with cold water to aleviate any bleeding. Best to you.
Jamie - 11/19/99 07:01:58
Gender: female
Age: 19
Comments:
I am new to this site, but I think it is relevant to my life. I am about to start Accutane and have gone through the whole sob story of treatments, prescriptions, creams, pills, etc. In response to Silena's message- I lost someone I loved deeply because
of my acne. Not because he couldn't take it, but because I couldn't take it. I would try to avoid him when I looked especially scary and would sometimes either cry or get angry w/out telling him the real reason. Consider yourself a lucky woman and just
love him back w/out thinking of the acne. I also wrecked a car because of acne, lost out on some good times with friends, missed a test, canceled some dates, skipped a kick ass concert, not to mention the HUGE amount of time and money spent on acne. Thi
is the worst thing anyone could have and I don't even wish it on my worst enemies. In short, I am praying that Accutane will simply clear up my skin so I can then clear up my life. I also pray that I get another chance with the lost love once I get cle
r skin. You all must think I'm nuts now. Except for maybe Spunky- he sounds like he knows what I'm talkin' 'bout. I'm not nuts, I swear.
silena - 11/19/99 06:44:25
My URL:http://www.lovingyou.com
My Email:silena100@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
Here's a nice site: Lovingyou.com ... Okay, I'm feeling a bit mushy and affectionate. This is just one of my favorite sites-- probably because I am in love! At any rate, it is a great site. Sometimes I get so upset and depressed about my acne that I take
y frustration out on my fiance. I would bet that a lot of us have loved ones who are affected by our acne-- not by the way we look, but by the way we act about it and by how it makes us feel. I came across this site and was inspired to do some especially
ice things for Mike. He has had to deal with me on Accutane, my anger and depression about recurring acne, and my general obsession with my appearance. When I get really down about my complexion, I tell him things like, "You don't know what it's like! I'v
had acne for 15 years straight! All you ever had was a couple of years when you hit puberty!" Growl! Hiss! ... the ranting and raving goes on while he remains quiet, shoulders slumped in confused defeat, not knowing at all what he did to deserve a verb
l assault. All he knows is that he walked into the bathroom to relieve himself and came across his wife-to-be putting on make-up to go out to dinner. He wishes I didn't have acne only because I would feel better about myself. He wishes I wouldn't take m
frustration out on him. He wishes he had used the other bathroom..........
To: Rene - 11/19/99 06:41:42
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
Thank you too, Rene. I think I will try a combo of yours and the Pig's recipies. ~Amae
To: The Poofy Pig - 11/19/99 06:40:02
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
Wow, Pig- you are giving me a big head with all your little comments. Thanks for the soap tip-I'm willing to try whatever. I think this board will agree with me that you make all of us smile and give us a little bit of hope in doing that. Now about my
in-up poster...... Best to YOU ~Amae
OOPS! To EVERYONE... let's try the correct URL this time! - 11/19/99 06:01:47
My URL:http://www.pathcom.com/~smclean/snuggles.htm
Comments:
SMILE !!! silena
TO EVERYONE - 11/19/99 05:59:47
My URL:http://http://www.pathcom.com/~smclean/snuggles.htm
Comments:
http://www.pathcom.com/~smclean/snuggles.htm ... now, everyone smile! PEACE!!! silena
To Shawn - 11/19/99 05:44:50
Age: 36
Comments:
I thank you very much for sharing the DOIA web addy with us. That is very interesting. I have actually had many of those types of acne. It helps me to remember how much worse I have been and also how much better I am now if you know what I mean. You a
e a great asset(I hope no letters drop off of this one) to this site. Take care.
To: Laura - 11/19/99 05:30:25
Comments:
Laura - 11/19/99 03:19:42
Gender: female
Comments: This proportion is ideal in relation to weight tables. I am assuming you have consultation access, should you need modification of this schedule. Best to you.
GW - 11/19/99 04:35:32
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Laura, why are you asking us this? Your derm is obviously a professional and knows what dose to give you, I can't understand why you wouldn't trust him/her.
Laura - 11/19/99 03:19:42
Gender: female
Comments:
I just started taking accutane and i weigh around 112. My derm put me on 40mg on odd days and 80 mg on even days. Is this dosage too high for my weight?
Kelly - 11/19/99 03:15:33
Gender: girly
Age: 16
Comments:
I'll be ending my accutane treatment around April. I wanna get a nose job sometime in June. Will I have to wait longer because of the effects of accutane???
GW - 11/19/99 01:49:35
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Is that LIMA BEAN??? Never been a big fan.*****************You know what???? NO SOUP FOR YOU...COME BACK, ONE YEAR************************Gotta give it to the Yanks, Seinfeld kicks arse, its the best show ever made.
GW - 11/19/99 01:46:44
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
PIG: But isn't it true to say that the healing process of scars/red marks is quicker once roaccutane treatment is finished?**************************************PS- I think that by and large the people on this site are a good bunch of human beings so ple
se lets all just take a chill pill. I mean, take this guy for example. I call him the "Poofy Pig" and he doesn't go off and cry and take it as a personal affront. He takes it in good spirit. A few variable posts here and there doesn't hurt anyone. I
hink I speak for almost everyone when I say that no-one is out to assualt or totally mess up someone's mind. So lets all chill and try not to take life so seriously. (PPS- when is the next court hearing, PIG???!!!!)
Just had 2 Ice Cold Hershey Bars - 11/19/99 01:01:34
Comments:
Just had 2 (actually 2 and 1/2) Ice cold Hershey Bars! Today's din din was Lima Beans and Brocolli, smothered with hot melted Mild Cheddar, Monterey Jack, and Mozzarella Cheeses, then later 2 thick vanilla Science Lab Protein Shakes. Best to you. HGPig.
Pam - 11/19/99 00:52:04
My Email:Vivalaguera99@Yahoo.com
Gender: female
Age: 28
Comments:
Hello all!! I went to the derm today....he gave me some lotion called Diprolene to put on any new zits that I get. Has anyone heard of this stuff? I checked on-line, but all the info was rather vague. I am in my second month of treatment, today the de
m said he might keep me on for 6 months. It doesn't matter to me, as long as it works. To Shawn I want to say that I know exactly what you mean about having your husband rub his hand on your forehead. My entire face is clear and the texture is wonderfu
!! I can't believe this stuff. I have very mininal side effects. The normal chapped lips and dry nose. To the person who wants an "it worked for me story", well, I know I am only two months into treatment, but I say go for it!!! My skin used to be ve
y oily, but not anymore. I was very hesitant to start taking Accutane, and now I'm mad at myself for waiting all these years. My derm says that the positve effects of Accutane are long term and he is very optimistic about where I will be when I'm finish
d with treatment. Like I said, I have very few side effects and prior ro treatment I was convinced that I would have every side effect possible. To anyone that is reluctant, I say go for it, what do you have to lose? I'll keep you all posted with my pr
gress. Take care.........
- 11/18/99 22:39:24
Comments:
spunky - 11/18/99 22:23:58
Comments:
please don't listen to this guy bob or rob topps. whoever he is. You can take all the vitamin C u want, shit take 50 grams it won't hurt you but PLEASE don't take more tha 2,000 IU a day of vitamin E for too long. It'll screw you up, I guarantee it. A
d the food-zit connection that you are talking about. Let me change that. It's actually this: You go to the 7-11 and buy a king size hershey bar and some sweet tarts. You down em and then all of a sudden you think "oh shit, sugar and chocolate, I"m goi
g to break out" And you will because you are STRESSED OUT about it. Even if u think that you aren't, u are. You see, when you wake up the next morning, you'll have a pimple and you will think it came from the food which is BS and u won't eat it ever aga
n. Take me for example, I don't eat chocolate or sugar because I know I'll dwell on it all day and I'll break out b/c I"m stressed. Therefore, the real connection is STRESS-ACNE. laters, adrian
Shawn - 11/18/99 22:21:15
My Email:sbrooks@portare.com
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
DAY 23 of Accutane treatment (WEEK 3)-- You know I think that this stuff is making me miscount my days! Went in for my blood work and my doc was all happy and said I looked marvelous and that I was coming along great. She kept me on the same dosage 20mg
2x a day. So, I think that I will not need to have it increased. She said that the reason a dosage is increased is if there is isn't or a very minimal response to the first dose. She also said it is based on what kind of percentage of blemishes you are
getting while on the Accutane. She asked me what I thought my percentage is now as opposed to what it was before treatment and she said that typically doctors look for a 70% improvement compared to pre-therapy. Has anyone else been told this? I told he
mine was 50-60% better than before and she said that was good. She also said that you should take extra care of your skin as it gets VERY sensitive. Another thing that I do remember when I took it the first time, I took it right after I recovered from
he Chicken Pox. Well, where there were once the pox, the ones that didn't heal completely before taking it turned into these raised little scars. I only have like 2 or 3 on my back and chest, but thought that that was weird. Anyone else have that happe
? Well, progressing well. Forehead is the most beautiful I have ever seem it (I love running my hand across it at night -- my husband's been doing that too to relax me when we go to sleep. I love it!) and the rest of my skin is steadily improving! TO
oXy: Great site! I think that you're so right about directing us there. Gives us a better classification of our own condition. TO AMAE: I would definately moisturize to keep your skin soft -- also put a humidifier in your room. I'm going to try tha
and see what happens. TO JASMINE: I would moisturize the dry patches as PIG suggested. That's what I do. Just be VERY GENTLE -- that can't be stressed enough. TO SPUNKY: So you're a surfer huh? I used to surf when I lived in California off the coa
t of Pacifica, Santa Cruz etc. I miss it. I have to take up snowboarding now. Sounds like you have matured a bit -- keep it up. TO RENE: Apricot Scrub by St. Ives? I use it too! Have used it for years! Great exfoliator. You kind of need some sort
of gentle exfoliator while on this stuff.....well, see you all later. Almost the weekend! Only 2 days of work for me next week!
spunky - 11/18/99 22:14:15
My Email:spunky695@yahoo.com
Comments:
ANGIE: hey, I have plenty of pics but I have to mail them to you. If you want I can send you tons of pics from varios times in the last two year or so. there's like 8 or 10 of them. I'll send you a couple of pics of amber too. Just don't yell at me a
out going on accutane.. it probably wasn't the best choice I ever made but it's too late now. It may have been best for me to just stick with goat soap... but we'll see. If u want to email me and give me your addy then go for it. thanks for caring :) a
d maybe we do have a lot in common.. I hope so.
Angie - 11/18/99 21:33:50
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
MIA: My doctor said that if you are taking one a day take it between 8-10. If you are taking 2 a day take one between 8-10 and the other between 6-8. Try to keep within those time structures. Of course your doctor may think otherwise.
mia - 11/18/99 20:41:52
Gender: female
Comments:
Please could someone tell me if accutane has to be taken at the same time everyday?
Morty - 11/18/99 20:39:24
Gender: 25
Comments:
Mr. Topps, do you not agree that there are numerous, to say the least, studies that have proven smoking is a great predictor of lung cancer? I don't think that can be argued. On the other hand, would you mind citing a collection of studies showing a si
ilar relationship between acne and food. I didn't think so. Please get facts before you profess "truth." It seems logical to you, that's the only basis for your claims. People are desperate and will listen to your logic and agree, not knowing you have
no expertise in the field. Think before someone gets hurt.
Morty - 11/18/99 20:33:41
Gender: 25
Comments:
Shawn - Here's the link again - 11/18/99 19:47:51
My Email:sbrooks@portare.com
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
I think that because this page has a bug, it deletes characters in posts (ever notice that) and I think that one of the characters in the web link for DOIA was deleted -- here it is again: http://www.dermis.net/bilddb/index_e.htm -- Good Luck! Will writ
later, have work.
smokey1 - 11/18/99 19:09:18
My Email:db2636@aol.com
Age: 33
Comments:
RoXy - 11/18/99 18:40:57
Gender: GRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
There you go! Thanks Shawn, Luv Ya!
RoXy - 11/18/99 18:39:46
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hey, I do not know the address for DIOA but I searched for Sulzberger then ADA then saw the DIOA...Dermatological something somethng atlas.
If you still cant find it I will search again later today but I am out the door right now..surfs up....lates.
Shawn - 11/18/99 18:38:10
My Email:sbrooks@portare.com
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
Hey -- I'm off to get my blood work done but I see here that a few of you are looking for that DOIA website. Went there and MAN! Makes me feel like I have a peaches and cream complexion. Definately worth looking at http://www.dermis.net/bilddb/index_e.
tm. Just click on "A" and you'll see the acne variations if you scroll down. Gotta go! Be back.....
- 11/18/99 18:30:50
Comments:
ROXY- can you put that DIOA website on the board here, i can't find it.
Angie - 11/18/99 18:23:48
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
SPUNKY: I don't know who you are, but I feel you and I have a lot in common. There was a time when i was the life of the party and the girl everyone wanted. At one time it looked like someone hit me with a pair of track spikes. It was bad. I went thr
ugh expensive sessions of the parisian peel to smooth out my skin, which worked, but was always ruined by the reapppearance of my acne so I decided to use Accutane and get rid of the acne and then go for the parisian peel results. I am hopeful that Accut
ne will end my life of zits and clear up some of the scars and then leave the Parisian peel to do the rest. I was wondering if you had some pictures of yourself. I believe we are all our worst critics in this world. One flawless makes even a couple of
laws seem like a nightmare to us. Perhaps it is not as bad as you speculate, believe I too am there.
Angie - 11/18/99 18:12:35
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
QUESTIONS: Since I have been on Accutane it seems that if I even come close to aggravating a zit it becomes inflammed and like a huge cut on my face and then it seems to patch off. I have had a lot of breakouts on my jaw line. Is there a web site that
hows before and after pictures of Accutane users. It would be nice to get some reassurance. If anyone would answer me I would sure appreciate it.
Bob Topps - 11/18/99 17:57:04
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Greetings and Salutations!
MORTY: Yeah the FOOD-ZIT connection is merely correlation, so is smoking and lung cancer buddy. Listen the one isolated cause of ACNE haas yet to be found so theres room for specualtion alright?
KRISTIN: Ive been there hon. My dermatologist put me on EVERYTHING before ACCUTANE. thinking back now, i wish he had started the Roac earlier. as the antibiotics just help with prevention and only for a short period of time (they also kill the good bacter
a in your gut). Ditto on exercise.
re:the complexion of Tom Cruise. Well if megadosing on Vitamin C and E worked for him, (I mean hes married to that hottie Nicloe Kidman)..no who am i kidding its all genetics, right?. and he won the equivalent of the genetic lottery whereas i won the door
prize.
Good Luck!
- 11/18/99 17:24:38
Comments:
Hey rene if you are still there did you get new spots around week ten?????
- 11/18/99 17:23:27
Comments:
Mia, it is normal as can be, the accutane is just getting rid of all the junk in your pores all at the same time (like now) instead of the pimples sticking around and coming up here and there....soon they will be gone FOREVER...we hope. Good luck.
Rene - 11/18/99 17:21:33
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
TO MACKLIN: Hi Macklin, it sounds as if you have the typical Accutane rash on the back of your hands. I also get this. My derm. gave me some 1% steriod cream to apply and suggested putting lotion over it. Once the rash goes away just continue to apply
otion to your hands everytime after you wash them. Our hands are washed and dried more than any other part of our body so they dry and get the rash more often. TO AMEA...I use cetaphil and I have never had an oily or shine to my face after use. I use i
once a day in the shower...Every other morning I use St. Ives Apricot Facial Scrub it is very mild..and also wash with the Cetaphil. The facial scrub removes any dead skin. Both are very mild. I have two dry patches always around my mouth and this lig
t exfoliation every other day helps the dry patches enough so that my skin is smooth and I can apply makeup. Hope this helps, Rene **13th week/87 days
mia - 11/18/99 17:06:23
My Email:rjm52@hermes.cam.ac.uk
Gender: female
Age: 19
Comments:
are you supposed to take accutane at the same time everyday? recently Ive been taknig mine at different times and Ive had several new spots come out. However, Im on week six, so I was wondering whether this was just whats suppoed to happen anyway. Is th
depression thing proven because Ive never felt so crap before -Ive lost interest in everything and cant concentrate at all. Any replies would be very gratefully recieved. Best of luck to everyone. Love Mia.
Roxy - 11/18/99 16:57:35
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
HEy Sean: sometimes people do not clear until they are done with the accutane...sometimes it takes a second course, but I wish you the best of luck.
Sean - 11/18/99 16:44:37
My Email:sfb2@cisunix.unh.edu
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
I'm on my 18th week of my 80mg accutane treatment and I am still getting breakouts on my forehead and sometimes on my cheeks...they're not bad...but I'd like to know if they're ever gonna go away completely. Please get back to me! Thank you very much!
- 11/18/99 16:34:10
Comments:
is it normal to be getting new pimples (3) on week 10? please reply
RoXy - 11/18/99 16:09:21
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
Hey Spunky did you get my second email? Ska Sucks, thats propaghandi....are you my evil twin? Why are you so down? It just takes time, just go surfing and be happy again.
spunky - 11/18/99 15:17:07
Comments:
hey.. if your there then go to this place ok?? it's www.citylive.com, then go to lobby, I'll be there
Karen - 11/18/99 15:14:42
Comments:
Yep - I'm here - Are you OK? I'm a bit worried about you.
spunky - 11/18/99 15:11:38
Comments:
karen.. u there????
Karen - 11/18/99 15:05:21
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Comments:
I'm here and I'm listening...
spunky - 11/18/99 14:53:45
Comments:
is anyone here??? I just wanna talk yo someone and everyone's at school. anyone???? I'll be back
spunky - 11/18/99 14:50:54
Comments:
maybe.... just maybe I'll be ok. I guess I just expsct too much out of myself. I hope everyone gets better, maybe I need some prozac instead of accutane. I dunno, I'm just nuts.
spunky - 11/18/99 13:50:40
Comments:
sespite all that, I'm actually looking pretty good. I mean, I guess I just overdo things. whatever. I have no idea anymore.. later
spunky - 11/18/99 13:46:45
Comments:
wow. You would think that things would be ok right??? hey Ryan, do you remember when we used to always go to the beach spring and summer of this year??? remember spring break?? Do you?? do you remember driving up and down the beach listening to less
han jake or limp or that ska sucks album??? And when we picked all those purple flowers and you drove and we gave them to all those girls and by the end of the day we were famous. remember when we always used to go over to fazollis after we went surfin
and then we'd go over to that surf shop and check out that gorgeous girl that worked there. Remember all the freshmen and sophomores that used to love us?? remember this quote ??" which one do you want to be like and do you want to be like one of them"
?? and we always said that we would never turn into one of those guys that just goes to the beach to pick up chicks and have sex??? " it's not fair, never will be for you, it's not supposed to be that easy for us" Limp. You see ryan, I can't so any
f that anymore because I am an ugly fucking createn now. I look back at prom and just cry man.. I remember when amber used to want me. remember that.. she'd call like 24-7 and now do u really think she "wants" me anymore. She still loves me but she do
sn't want me. I want my life back man. I want the beach, the little mx-3 V6 amber, the popularity.. look what happened to vanessa wolfson.. she broke out like crazy and no one likes her anymore. That's why i don't want to go to school anymore. I'm s
sick of this. I wanna look good again. I think accutane causes scarring.. yes, I do. I hope it doesn't but my dermy said that it might. OH well, I had my fun. Let's see, i have no life, like 5 friends, I had a 3.4 GPA, then I dropped out. I don't
ace bikes anymore, I played varsity baseball as a freshman, I had everything going, I had a cute girlfriend named tammy. Now I have a hot girlfriend, acne, POS mazda.. well not really, no money, my dad hates me, no life, all I have is my music and amber
I don't have ryan or mike.. or brad or raffy or charity or amy or glen or ect..... te list goes on. I'm just so anti-social now.. so luch less than what I used to be... I just want my life back. My good grades, good attitude. You all have felt like
this.. I know it. just sitting in your room and thinking. Wondering what could have been. Thinking about the past, worring about the future. Praying that this stuff works. One of these days it will all just go away. wow, there's so much more to say.
but you know what, maybe I'll end the sob story. I"m sick of laying back. I'm gonna go buy that sunscreen to get rid of the red marks(conceal), I'm gonna go refill my contacts, I'm going to re-dye my hair. I'm gonna go back to powerhouse, play baseball
do whatever. I'm sorry everyone.. I know I sound so stupid but I'm just so confused. I have no direction and no idea what to do. Like today.. I look like shit so I can't go out of the house. I just wanna get hit by a bus. I can't go to the mall, t
the store, I have no money, no gas, my dad won't give me any because he hates me... I have to get a job but I won't unless I look good. I WANNA LOOK GOOD AGAIN. but hey, it's all good right?? I want to go back to ormand beach and just bring my dog, s
me cd's (strungout, lagwagon, less than jake, funsize, snuff, limp, the impossibles, blink182, slapstick, homegrown, alkaline trio, the unsung zeros... lots) and just go chill. where no one can see me. Just by myself. Me. I'll get it back though.
ou all get to go through it. The revival of bret anthony hedges aka adrian. but you know what?? I'm gonna go to the mall... and just not care ehat everyone thinks(whoops, no money..hmmm) I dunno, I just need a break. I want me and amber to be ok and
her mom not to hate me. I want limp and homegrown and the bands I used to listen to. I used to be the happiest kid in the world.. now I seem to have lost it all. I know you guys are sick of this but it is so true. I am such a perfectionist. I'll be b
ck, you'll see.
Woops typo=MIC not mike - 11/18/99 08:51:50
Comments:
Sorry, mean't "mic" not mike, HGPig.
To: Courtney - 11/18/99 08:46:53
Comments:
Courtney: Hope you get this, since I do not normally reply by e-mail. If I recall the research files, there have been studies done on relapse rates after isotretinoin, and individuals with lesions below the neck, specifically trunk area, have a higher rat
of recurrance. You may fit in this area. Forget the topicals, except for Azelex 20% and glycolic acids perhaps, and get back to your specialist for accutane. However, endocrinology may need to be addressed also. Best to you.
Courtney - 11/18/99 08:22:12
My URL:http://www2.localaccess.com/Pmunson1/
My Email:courtneymunson@localaccess.com
Gender: Female
Age: 17
Comments:
Hi everyone, I know this is kind of long, but I would really appreciate it if you would read it and give me some feel back. I'm 17 and I started to get zits when I was in 7th or 8th grade. At first they didn't bother me but then it started to get worse an
worse. I tried all sorts of over the counter crap which did a big fat nothing. I was so frusterated. I didn't understand why I got it and none of my friends did! I did every thing right: no make-up, washing my face twice a day, showering after excersize.
I was so jealous that some of my friends could have the absolute worst skin care habits and still never get a single zit! My freshman year in high school I went to see a dermatologist. He put me on some milder stuff, which did nothing, various forms of re
in-A (nothing), and then tetracycline (nothing). This went on through my freshman and sophomore years in high school. By this time it had spread to my chest, back and shoulders. I was so depressed about how I looked that some days I could hardly think abo
t anything else. I avoided mirrors like the plauge because I was so disgusted by my appearance. Inside I was a very extroverted person, but the acne made me totally introverted. At cross-country and track practices when everyone would take off their shirt
and run in their sports bras, I would always sweat it out in my t-shirt, even if it was 90 degrees. I was totally paranoid that everyone would look at my and think "Ew!" I was humiliated when team mates sometimes asked me why I didn't take my shirt off.
I would cry myself to sleep every night thinking "why me, why me?" In the summer before my junior year, I finally convinced the derm that nothing was working and that I wanted to go on accutane. The only side affect I experienced was the chapped lips, whi
h was very annoying, but I just told myself that it would be all worth it when the acne was gone. And it was. By the end of fall when I was done with the treatment, the acne was gone! I was jubilant! I finally started to come out of my shell, and my self
ody image went through the roof. During track I was so happy that I could finally work out in a sports bra with confidence. Everything stayed fine and dandy till July, when I went to New York for a couple of weeks. My skin did NOT like the humidy, which i
was not used to (I live in the PNW). When I broke out on my chest, I was absolutly shocked! I was told that it should never come back after the treatment! I was really upset about it, especially since I was so looking forward to wearing all the tank tops
and low cut tops that I had been too embarrassed to wear when I had acne. As soon as I got back from NY, I went to the derm and he gave me some benzamycin which I used daily. The acne was gone again a couple weeks after that. I was so relieved. Since then
my skin has been mostly clear, with a few mild/moderate breakouts every 2 monthes or so. I occasionally get a zit or 2 on my face, but no more than anyone else. Well, about 2 weeks ago, JUST as cross-country concluded (I don't know if this is just a coin
idence, or not), I started to break out on my chest. As usual, it started as a few, but then they started to multiply! I am so mad! Now I can't wear anything low cut cause they are threatening to migrate up my neck! I've even started to spot some on my ba
k. It's really wierd, cause my face is really clear. I always break out on my chest, though. It seems like it should be worse on my face, since I wear make-up. But I don't understand why they decide to show up now! It's not one of those PMS things either.
They should be gone by now. So, I need some advice. Should I keep applying the benzamycin to it and hope that it clears up like the last couple times this happened, or should I go see my dermatologist again? I just want this stuff to go away, pronto! ZITS
ARE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE!!! Oh yeah, and if you don't mind, if you could e-mail me your response, that'd be great, as I don't know if I'll be checking back here soon, and the flow seems to moving pretty fast. Thank you!
EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!^^^^EXTRA EXTRA^^^ - 11/18/99 08:06:04
Comments:
Dan Rather reporting with up to the minute coverage of the one HGPig, alias "Poofy Pig", "Take-a-Lock Lip Pig", "Pig Can Fly Pig", and trial no. 1HGPig234007. "Folks at home, at work, in a tree eating with a Koala, or gazing at your Amae Pin-Up Poster, li
ten carefully" "I, and our CBS camera crew, all on Accutane, am located in the courtyard square, just below the second story red brick trial room, where the infamous HGPig. is being tried by a juiry of 12 Pigglets of his peers." "Wait just one minute!!!Be
nie Shaw and Judy Woodruff have just confiscated our remote mike!" "Help, help" "Oh well, let's go over to the corner of Peach, and get some more free pills from Christian Nice-Lad"^^^^^DUTDUTDUTDA^^^^DUTDUTDA^^^"This is BREAKING NEWS CNN REPORTING...Brea
ing news...Judy Woodruff reporting" "We have just arrived at the location below the famous trial of HGPig." "At the corner we are currently located on, there is a major riot taking place from across the streets." "37 Kangaroos, and I count 15 Shark-skinne
men and women, and one Randy in an ox stall, are launching firery ordinance of compacted tetracycline shells"! "This battle is raging" "On the otherside, on Maple Avenue, there are an equal amount of men and women, with their bodies painted red-white-and
blue, wearing nothing at all, crying "Give HG Liberty, or Give Us GW Bergersteins!""OH NO^^^^SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT "what's the matter Judy?" "Bernie!Bernie!we've just been spit on by Dan Rather and Roberto Alomar" and "Bernie, Bernie, it's disgusting orange a
d some of it hit my nose causing my skin to peal" "Judy, take cover immediately, Shawn's husband will help you, he came to cop a peak at Jasmine and Kristen" "Bernie Shaw here, taking over for the now vacationing Judy Woodruff" "Ladies and Gentleman this
ire just came across my desk" "Two individuals were just spotted legs and arms greased with Sun-Down, in a battle of pose downs" "It is reported that it's one called "Opti-Protein Powder Silena" and "Love Child Spunkster"..."WAIT..WAIT....EVERYTHINGS SUDD
NLY STOPPED!!!....Kristen and Amae are crossing the street!!" Look, Shawn's husband and Judy Woodruff are heading toward Meadow Run Park" "Shawn must live up there, tee hee" "Wait one minute viewers, we have just had a report that Jimmy Carter dressed in
giant peanut outfit has volunteered to mediate" "We have a situation on our hands".."What's to become of us" "Judy are you all right?" .....DAT^^^DAT^^^DAT^^^DAT^^^DAT^^^DAT
To Jamine, sweet Jasmine - 11/18/99 07:13:18
Comments:
Jasmine, yes your experience is the norm. The best time to remove the shedding skin layer is IMMEDIATELY after you shower. Do the following: 1.Shower warm water DO NOT use the exhaust fan (it will make the mirrors fog, but so what)2. When finished showeri
g DO NOT towel your face (especially YOUR cheeks) or neck AT ALL! IMMEDIATELY go to the mirror with face still dripping, and gently rub off the shedding skin with your WET PALM(this is a soft exfoliation)Do NOT use a cloth! You will need to take the dead
kin that adheres (which it should) to your hand(s) and put it on a tissue to discard . 3. On those areas that the skin came off IMMEDIATELY spot moisture lotion it (with something like Curel or Vasaline Protective Care, or Suave Lotions). 4. Then dry the
est of self (BUT NOT YOUR FACE, let natural evaporation take it's course for the face). 5. Wait one hour minimal AFTER leaving the shower, then go back to the mirror to see if natural evaporation has left any dry areas that need spot lotions. 6. I recomme
d Dove White Unscented for showering, as it contains 1/4 moisturizing lotion. 7. Best to you.
To: Kelly - 11/18/99 06:51:38
Comments:
One week is not enough to determine anything. Let yourself adjust, stay calm and patient please. Get plenty of sleep, take a "cat nap" with contacts OUT to rest the eyes from time to time. Generally (I believe <2%) this becomes a problem. And IMPORTANT>>
O NOT SHOWER WITH CONTACTS IN!. Best to you
Sorry GW from HGPig - 11/18/99 06:44:58
Comments:
I mis-typed the ORIGINAL reply. The study was 67.9% (NOT 7.9%). Conclusion: Scar improvement over 67.9%. Again apologies for my original reply. My post two down from this is correct. Best to you.
To: Beautiful Amae - 11/18/99 06:38:32
Comments:
Amae: choose White Dove Unscented in the morning, at night use Leaver 2000 Anti-Bacterial soap. Some like the Cetaphil but I don't recommend it due to it's "shiney oil" appearance it often shows. If your skin gets dry, "spot" moisture/lotion it.
To: GW from HGPig 67.9% - 11/18/99 06:30:04
Comments:
"Scars were present in 89.4% of patients, with improvement occurring in 67.9% during treatment." (GW, you typed "7.9%", I assumed you mean't the 67.9%).^^^I have interpreted this literally that of the over eighty-nine percent, over sixty-seven percent of
hese showed improvement in scarrring. I may with my consultant(s), in 3-4 weeks discuss further interpretation of this abstract.
jasmine - 11/18/99 05:58:08
Age: 19
Comments:
hi there,well i into week 8 of accutane now.My acne breakouts have reduced a lot and now i am left with only two zits at the right side of my cheeks and a new one along my hairline but on the whole,all is much more better than the days i had the super dup
r big breakout.Well days on accutane are slow and cruel.I've been staying at home all the while without even stepping out of my house for these 2 months.But at least my emotions are getting better compared to the first two weeks when i keep getting large
ed painful blister look alike cysts.And then the third to six week,my whole face looks like a large red surface of a crab except it is not as smooth and shiny.But then God finally answered part of my prayer.During week 7 and 8 i have demote to become a lo
ster instead of crab.(at least some parts of a lobster are white in colour)On the other hand,i still must admit that accutane is really effective despite of all the undesirable but managable side effects.But now the problem that lies with me is not acne b
t all the dry patches on my face.SOmetimes i will peel them with my hands and then my face become red in some parts where i peel and less red in some parts where i didnt peel.sigh....isnt this frustrating??I know i shouldnt peel them but i cant possibly l
t the dead piece of skin hang there on my face rite?? And applying make up is a disaster!Because of the dry patches on my skin,i cant put concealer or powder as it will make them look very blotchy.But on the other hand, i cant go out without any make up c
use i think i will scare my friends out of their minds if they see me with all (u know, u know) on my skin.(i have to go for my music lessons though cause it's expensive,i have no choice)From far i lo0k like i have two huge red plaster at both side of my
heeks!Not exagerating..(sorry for my brokoen english)However, one must learn to be optimistic,
its only my cheeks.But thats the largest part of ur face!!!!!!But well i will look forward to the end of the fourth month.Yah and the question that i want to ask is that shoould i use lots of moisturiser for my dry skin,or should i just let it peel?Will i
slow down the (so called shafting or whatever)process?And is peeling of my skin supposed to be good for my skin or bad??Sorry for such a long post and so much questions.Well all the best to u people and really glad i am not alone!great site and great peop
e!
- 11/18/99 05:47:27
Comments:
can you just give us the web adress of these "DIOA" pictures, i can't find it
Julie - 11/18/99 05:44:35
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
Macklin- I am currently on 80mgs. of Accutane and I had been getting rashes on my hands also. My dermotologist prescribed "Dermatop" cream to use on my face and hands. It has definetly made a difference! I usually put it on before I go to bed. Ask your de
matologist about it.
kristin - 11/18/99 05:30:18
My Email:kristin333om@aol.com
Gender: female
Age: 24
Comments:
wow, a few days pass by and there is sooo much to read. actually, in reference to all this controversy and back and forth, i find it entertaining-like mour own private drama. commments: Peter Hawke, using steroids is a very bad idea. very very bad i
ea, like really horrible. and big fake muscle men kinda look gross (i think). so don't kill yourself ok? to HGPIG i enjoy the courtroom posts, have even laughed aloud. same to you tom cruise, oh i mean bob. seriously, people on this site are general
y a good bunch even if everyone bickers like brothers and sisters. hey spunky, this amber girl better love you, cause it sounds like you love her very much- thats really awesome. i think this is the last time i'm going to post this info, marijuana with
accutane-never caused me any problems. so don't stress horribly about it. my derm won't give accutane till he has tryed you on something else (SOUND FAMILIAR ANYONE?) so i'm doing differen and bynzomycen for 6 weeks till next appt. it stings though an
makes me dry. humidifier is a good idea. love to you all, keep being yourselves. PS for exercise i obviously reccomend YOGA.
Angie - 11/18/99 05:21:58
My Email:ambmack@earthlink.net
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Comments:
I recently ran across this web site and it was kind of refreshing. I have been suffering from acne for about 10 years. I have been through the cycles of it being real bad and real good. I have always hated the size of my poors, because my lack of confi
ence makes me feel like they are scars. The funny thing is that when my acne is under control my physical appearance is better than average, but when it isn't it is scary. I just started Accutane and my derm. promised me with my mild acne and large poor
it would make me so happy that I will cry. I have heard so many negative stories. Does anyone have a "it worked for me" story?
Amae - 11/18/99 04:59:22
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
Uggggghhhhhh- slight glitch in the plan. Insurance has decided to poo on me so hopefully I will get the scrip tomorrow or next day. Sometimes I wonder how insurance service personel got their jobs...uggggggghhhhhh. To GW: I'm not getting in the middle
f your silly battle, but I will say leave Florida out of it!!! Can Florida (or California or Wyoming) really control those things you were saying? Anyways.....who can recommend a good soap or facial cleanser besides the goat one (preferably an OTC)? Th
nk U. ~Amae
Dan - 11/18/99 04:53:09
My Email:readyandpatient@yahoo.com
Gender: male
Age: 22
Comments:
TO EVERYONE ON THIS POST:
Well, I'd like to first start off by saying I've been a diligent follower of this webpage for the last couple of months. It helped me decide on the pros and cons of going on accutane by listening and following everyones experiences. Now, unfortunately,
ts become a forum to senseless political insults, along with pointless ramblings about fictitious experiments, and finally, just plain jibberish at times. Please, let's just limit ALL of our posts to acne experiences, comments, and questions. OKAY. I'm
ired of scrolling down pages of idiotic debates which have nothing to do with accutane. I would hate for all of us who really value this page to be turned away from it by everyone that is dragging it down, because I'm sure many of us have really benefitt
d from it. If anyone is interested in how my progress is coming along, feel free to email me. I am on day 15 now. Well, I hope we definitely see less nonsense and more information on this site from now on. Thanks you all.
silena - 11/18/99 04:38:28
Comments:
HGPig... How is your experiment going? You haven't mentioned it for some time... I am very interested in the outcome. Please post an update, sir! Thanks.
Pokey - 11/18/99 04:36:53
Age: 37
Comments:
I don't read of anyone thanking Christian for the money-making program he introduced. So here I'm going to do just that: to express my thanks and to tell everyone here that the program Christian once mentioned is excellent. Initially, I was very skeptical
about this program, having come across countless internet scams. But after contacting him and receiving the information/website, I was amazed at its simplicity and credibility. It is such an exciting program. I'm just glad, really. I have already signed u
and even signed up my family members. Through this program, I also learnt a lot about offshore banking which is very educational, especially for us, U.S. citizens. This program requires a total of 100,000 applicants. Presently, they have over 60,000 appl
cants and require another over 30,000 before the program closes. They expect to hit that figure by year-end. I can't imagine anyone missing out on this wonderful opportunity. You could email me as your referrer for the information, but since Christian is
he one who introduced this program to us here, I think he should get the credit. As such, I choose not to include my email. Thank you, Christian, for bringing this program to some of us here. I cannot thank you enough. You have been very helpful on this s
te and especially so, with this program that you introduced. It's going to change our lives for the better. When the US$20,000 payout comes, I will pay you a visit personally to express my heartfelt thanks. You're a Godsend...love ya...
Roxy - 11/18/99 04:29:17
Comments:
DIOA is this site where you can look all types of pictures of people with acne...WARNING some pictures are incredibly graphic, and my heart goes out to those people. Lates, I am going to bed....
GW - 11/18/99 04:17:42
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
FOXY POXY ROXY: What is DIOA?????
macklin - 11/18/99 04:15:07
Gender: female
Age: 28
Comments:
I am on week 8 of a 60 mg. daily dose of accutane. I work as in a hospital and have to wear gloves on my hands during the day. Yesterday I noticed red bumps on the backs of my hands. I do not know if this is related to the accuatne or not. Has anyone
lse had a similar experience and if so what did you do? Please respond
Roxy - 11/18/99 04:02:48
Comments:
Type in DIOA for a keyword search...look at those pictures and maybe we will stop whining.
Roxy - 11/18/99 03:32:27
Gender: GRRRL
Age: 21
Comments:
GW: well I figure that my dermatologist is right considering all the money he's got...the dude drives an Acura NSX...but he did say it takes a WHILE for them to fade away, ohh and tanning will not help the scars even after you finish the accutane. Be car
ful with the sun and good luck everyone.
spunky - 11/18/99 03:18:51
Comments:
hey alyssa... For me, goat soap has helped A LOT. Especially for those litle white heads that appear when u wake up are gone when you go to bed later that night. It also helps heal things quicker but it doesn't seem to help much with red marks. Me and
you need to talk more as we seem to have the same kind of skin comdition. Those holes.. I KNOW WHAT U MEAN!!! they scared the hell outta me at first. they are literally pinsized and you can only see them like 3 inches away. no, those are not permanen
at all. I have no idea if they are your pores but they are not permanent. About accutane on mild acne... the verdict is still out. I say go for it becuase it does seem to work, but everything will heal SO much slower. I mean pimples that took 3 days
to go away now take 3 weeks (no joke). maybe that's just me though. My derm said that I am not responding that well to it and he admittited that he may have given me too high of a does (but you have to remember I was balling and screaming and begging to
.. u guys know how emotional I am :) So, I say go for it.. but only like 20 or 40 mg a day. Good luck alyssa and keep in touch ok???? spunky695@yahoo.com or if u really need someone you can call (407)696-6512. adrian.. actually, that goes to
veryone, if your feeling really, realy scared you can always email me or call me.. just ask for bret(it's my line)
GW - 11/18/99 02:18:10
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Thanks for the reply PIG. But you're going to have to speak in pre-school language - remember I'm just a politician. Does this 7.9 % mean that only this percentage of people's scars healed during treatment? In other words, most people have to wait unti
treatment is finished before thei scars really start to heal? Thanks in advance.
Mike - 11/18/99 01:49:13
My Email:m_bobrob@hotmail.com
Gender: male
Age: 20
Comments:
does anyone know the effects of taking illicit drugs while on roaccutane. I know your not supposed to drink alchohol, can smoking marijuana be harmfull?.
To: GW.....HGPig - 11/18/99 01:41:50
Comments:
Short synopsis from previous post:
RESULTS: Response to treatment was very good in 62.8% and good in 31.9% of patients, with only one treatment failure. Of the patients, 21.3% required retreatment after a mean interval Scars were present in 89.4% of patients, with improvement occurring in
7.9% during treatment. Best to you.
To: GW.....HGPig - 11/18/99 01:41:10
Comments:
Short synopsis from previous post:
RESULTS: Response to treatment was very good in 62.8% and good in 31.9% of patients, with only one treatment failure. Of the patients, 21.3% required retreatment after a mean interval Scars were present in 89.4% of patients, with improvement occurring in
7.9% during treatment. Best to you.
Sir Randy - 11/18/99 01:35:28
Comments:
HGPIG you are nothing more than a fucking dumbstruck cockspank whose posts are as useless as tits on a bull. All you do is pop pills and drink magic potions all day like some drug-fucked anamalia episode..................SPUNKY you are nothing more than
ome fucked up idiot dick-muncher whose sob stories mean fuck all. Talk about being a wanker well you must jerk off at every fucking waking hour. So why don't you take your sob stories and stick them up your rear where you usually receive><><><>Signing
ff the Z master.
Lisa - 11/18/99 00:40:04
Gender: Female
Age: 30
Comments:
TO THE SPUNK-MEISTER: Your prayers will be answered as long as you keep the faith. Stay as sweet as your recent postings have been. Very refreshing.
GW - 11/18/99 00:34:24
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Cmon, dudes, lighten up a bit. We all can't be sitting around talking about acne all day - how depressing. Just don't take everyting so seriously********************TO ROXY: Thankyou for your posts because I think you have instilled hope in everyone abo
t the red marks. I think this is a concern of about 95% of people that come to this site. Your comment that they ALWAYS go away is very encouraging.........does that mean we can now hold you liable!!!???????
Pam - 11/18/99 00:08:32
My Email:Vivalaguera99@Yahoo.com
Gender: duh!
Age: 28
Comments:
Laura- I am in my second month of treatment at 80 mg a day, and I have had NO problems with my contacts!!! I use soft contacts and they are the disposable one that you toss every two weeks. Believe me, I was very nervous that I wouldn't be able to use m
contacts while on Accutane, but so far so good. I did buy rewetting drops just to have them on hand, and I have used them only once. Hope this helps! Take care all.
alyssa - 11/17/99 23:39:42
Gender: female
Age: 20
Comments:
**Spunky**I wanted to ask you first of all, what exactly is the goat soap supposed to do? I've been using it for a week which probably isn't long enough, but what good things did it do for your skin? Everytime I use it my face stings for a couple minute
...is that normal? I also wanted to ask you a question about accutane. I understand you have mild acne. Are you glad you went on it and would you reccomend it to others with mild acne? I'm sorry to drill you with so many questions. I just figured you
ould be able to help me. Thanks spunky. I hope you're doing good.
Alyssa - 11/17/99 23:33:12
Gender: female
Age: 20
Comments:
Hello everyone. :) I have a question for you all. I just hope someone can help me. It's about scarring...When I look very close at my skin, I see little tiny holes in my skin. Do you think these are scars, or could they just be my pores? Is there anyw
y to tell the difference? I'm not on accutane and I've never been. Another question I have is if they are my pores, will accutane shrink them? thanks a lot everyone. Hope everyone is great. luv, Alyssa
- 11/17/99 23:24:33
Comments:
I too am getting very annoyed by all of the bickering on this site. The first time I came here I though "wow, this is a great site." Now majority of the posts don't even deal with acne and accutane. I come here and look through all the posts and many
f them are a waste of time. Let's keep this site what it's supposed to be.
roxy - 11/17/99 23:20:03
Comments:
To get back to the real reason we are all here: I just looked up ACNE SCARRING on the web and it had promising news....A RED MARK ON THE SKIN is called an erythamatous macule it will fade in four to six months after an acne outbreak - but it may get temp
rarily redder when your skin gets hot or when you exercise. This red macule is not a scar, and is not permanent. In a dark skinned person the macule may appear as a dark patch, this is not a scar either. Scarring occurs because the skin is trying to rep
ir itself. The process of repair can produce a scar that looks like a pit in the skin. These scars are not the red ones we are mostly concerned about.....yeah!!! It just takes time. Hope this helps those of you discouraged, do not stop taking the accut
ne just because of the redness, it IS working........bye.
TO "ST.JOHN" - 11/17/99 23:12:56
Comments:
I think you are a little obbsessed......
St. John - 11/17/99 23:04:34
My Email:your so fierce!!!
Comments:
**OH BEAUTIFUL.....FOR SPACIOUS SKIES, AND AMBER WAVES OR GRAY!!!! .....FOR PURPLE MOUNTAINS MAJESTY UP ON THE FRUIT AND PLAINS, .....AMERICA! AMERICA! GOD SHED YOUR LIGHT ON ME!!!! ANNNNNNNND CROWN THY GOOD.... WITH BROTHERHOOD... FROM SEA- TOOOOOO- SHIN
NG SEA!!!!
roxy - 11/17/99 22:57:38
Comments:
hey straw, cystic acne is usually a little painful to the touch, bigger, red in color and seems to be deeper in the skin than your everyday whitehead. later
roxy again - 11/17/99 22:55:41
Comments:
I wanted to clarify that my dermatologist said that the red marks from old pimples ALWAYS fade...not necessarily the dents/holes left by bigger cysts. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!
strawberry - 11/17/99 22:55:37
Gender: male
Age: 19
Comments:
can someone please tell me what cystic acne is AND/OR what it looks like. i havent yet gotten a response on it and ive posted the question frequently.
Roxy - 11/17/99 22:52:15
My Email:roxyroo@prodigy.net
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Comments:
Hi everyone, we really need to stop this site from going down the tubes. I read SPUNKYS message and thought it was really sweet. Maybe we can all learn from this and stop with the fighting........ANYWAY, just thought I would give a personal account of m
progress. This will be week 9.5 out of 20 and I have noticed considerable improvement over the past week. I hope that this continues. With the pimples stopping then my skin can start working on the red marks. SPUNKY: you asked about red marks and acc
tane, well my dermatologist said that they ALWAYS go away it just takes time, and when you are on accutane it constricts your blood vessels which causes the red face and the redness in old pimples. Do not let these red marks discourage you or anyone else
out there. They take months to fade after accutane is finished...but hey!!! we have to be on this stuff for 4-6 months so whats another few?? I just think that we need to remember that the best way to recover it so take the full dosage for as many month
as prescribed...unless of course you have strange side effects....my point is DONT GIVE UP!!! email me if you have questions or want to talk.
Laura - 11/17/99 22:40:45
Gender: female
Age: 15
Comments:
On the accutane thing it says, "If you wear contact lenses, you may find that you are less able to tolerate them during AND after therapy." So after i'm done with therapy i won't be able to wear contacts again ever??? does anybody know?!?!?!?!?
GW - 11/17/99 22:40:11
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
**********The altogether good to excellent clinical response f acne lesions and acne scars, with a low side effect profile, warrants further study of this simple, modified treatment regimen in patients with acne and acne-induced scarring.*****************
*****PIG: so what you/it are trying to say here is that roaccutane helps acne scarring????
Shawn - 11/17/99 22:24:50
My Email:sbrooks@portare.com
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
DAY 23 of Accutane treatment (WEEK 3)-- All is good still. I have noticed that there is mild skin shedding. Expected this. But moisturizer seemed to help with that so I don't look like there are skin patches gone. My skin feels so smooth though! And
y makeup is staying on so much better because there is no oil to blot. I rescheduled my blood work for tomorrow because of the Thanksgiving Holiday, I don't want to be stuck without my script for 2-3 days. My doc says it takes 3-5 days for blood results
to come back and I would like to have a fresh script before the holiday. I might be going out of town anyway, so I wanted to give them enough time to get the results back. I do have to say I like the lack of appetite. It's making me leaner! haha! Tha
ks PIG and SELINA for your protien powder suggestions. Maybe I'll still use the Opti-Met, but I was a little concerned with the amount of Vitamin A that was in it. I just remember reading that you shouldn't take Vitamin A while on Accutane as it will co
tribute to more side effects. So....that said, I'm not sure what my decision will be, but there is a signifigant amount of cholesterol too. I think it's mainly for those bodybuilders that are trying to gain, which is the opposite of what I am trying to
o, so we shall see. The blemishes are clearing up now. Lips are dry and hair still dry. Eyes dry and nose dry. OK so far. Skin texture is just FABULOUS! I'm very pleased so far. Tommorrow I hope that everything goes well and that if I am prescribed
higher dosage, that it doesn't make me 10 times worse. Caio all!
Kelly - 11/17/99 22:05:20
Gender: female
Age: 17
Comments:
Help!!! I've been taking accutane for a week and my eyes hurt extremely bad. I also wear contacts, but in the last couple of days i havent worn them. Should i quit taking accutane or will this go away???
Natalie Saunders - 11/17/99 20:14:47
My Email:natalie@saunderstribe.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: female
Age: 15
Comments:
I have just started using the oral pills, oxytetracyline, and as my acne is only fairly moderate, not terrible, I wondered how long it would take to see results, or if they will totally disappear sometime. Considering I have had this form of acne for abou
2-3 years
Natalie Saunders - 11/17/99 20:13:49
My Email:natalie@saunderstribe.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: female
Age: 15
Comments:
I have just started using the oral pills, oxytetracyline, and as my acne is only fairly moderate, not terrible, I wondered how long it would take to see results, or if they will totally disappear sometime. Considering I have had this form of acne for abou
2-3 years
Morty - 11/17/99 19:39:06
Comments:
P.S. I do believe I am watching Spunky grow up right before my eyes. One of his messages actually moved me somewhat. Keep it up Spunk, you actually have some really great things to say when you are down to earth.
Morty - 11/17/99 19:34:57
Age: 25
Comments:
To Bob Topps
I, surely as well as many others who come to this site, would appreciate it greatly if you refrained from professing supposed proof that food and acne are linked. The fasting/reduction situation you spoke of is a matter of correlation, not necessarily ca
sation. In addition to this, most doctors, who have conducted controlled experiments have found there to be minimal if any link between the two. Please, just think before you write.
Cip - 11/17/99 17:37:31
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Comments:
Lee- I also got red bumps on the back of my hands after being on accuatne about 6 weeks. I kept a watch on it, and put Aloe Vera and Aquaphor on it, which seemed to help. In a week it went away. I'm going to the derm next week, so I'll ask her about it th
n. Definately keep an eye on yours, use lots of lotion and mention it to your derm.
Bob Topps - 11/17/99 17:00:21
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
RE: accutane and dry lips etc. GET A HUMIDIFIER. This helped me TONS. Especially in the winter time when the wind is extra harsh on skin..
HPIG; Your out of order!
TO SIR whoever: dont knock fasting until you've tried it. It actually does work to clear up yoiur face thus proving there is a FOOD-ZIT connection, although i dont ever do that becasue it taps me of energy.
STop calling people "blokes" thats the lamest insult )if it even is one) ever you're probably Eurotrash, right?
Good luck!
- 11/17/99 15:50:57
Comments:
what on earth has happened to this site - It used to be informative but now its just full of a group of pretentious little kids rambling about nothing to do with acne. If you want to do this, cant you go somewhere else and leave this site to be as brilli
nt as it was a couple of moths back?
spunky - 11/17/99 13:57:19
Comments:
actually, dwelling on it more. maybe I'm just too worried, too weird, too scared. I have to real past, no real present.. but I want a future. I want a reason to live ya know?? I know you all have felt like that. It's just a stage. I guess I'm suppose
to be with amber, which is good... but it seems that a LOT of people have acne ya know. Like I went to see her at school this morning and saw like 100 ppl (literally) worse of then me. For that, I thank God (and goat soap ;) I dunno, I just wish it w
uld go away. I love you amber.
adrian
spunky - 11/17/99 13:09:03
Comments:
actually, I have a ew things to say and I don't know where to begin. Maybe I've lost hope, maybe faith, or maybe this is just my fate. I am someone special. is there something wrong for admitting that?? I think I am different than everyone. I want to
be flawless, invincible, PERFECT. someone that people look up to and marvel. someone guys love and girls drool over. Someone with a semi-phat car, going to the beach and parties all the time. you know. well you see, I've had a big taste of that and n
w it's gone. Maybe there was a reason though. It was right when amber entered my life and maybe God didn't want me to screw up this time. well, dear God : I UNDERSTAND ok?? please. I know I screwed up for a year or so but acne has kept me out of schoo
, baseball, mountian bikes.. everything. I just want to be as close to you as I can... as close to perfection as I can. Just don't tell me I"m possesed by demons. I have seen all the hallucinations and the 666 signs. I have tried. I have tried to b
ttle this disease. You know what I want, please, no acne, no scars. I"ve learned my lesson ok? I love amber, she's no play toy. I want her so bad I can taste it. I just want a final chance. please. I'm sorry, I"m sorry. I son't understand why me.
sincerely, bret anthony hedges (aka, adrian) anyway, in 26 more days I'll have 4 months over. After that, I"m outta this accutane shit. I want me, goat soap and amber. please, I need that answered.. DOES EVERYONE'S RECMARKS AND PIPML
S GET REDDER AND MORE SEVERE ON ACCUTANE. I haven't had a pimple in 1 week except for today and that was really small. I would like to thank GOd for that. I just hope he lets me be what I want to be and guide me in the right direction. Maybe all this
cne is a good thing ya know?? I have really learned a lot about myself, I am a much more religious person, it has brought me close to myself, and ways that I can't explain, closer to amber. so in a way, thank you God, you might have just saved my life.<
r>
spunky - 11/17/99 13:03:55
Comments:
actually, I have a ew things to say and I don't know where to begin. Maybe I've lost hope, maybe faith, or maybe this is just my fate. I am someone special. is there something wrong for admitting that?? I think I am different than everyone. I want to
be flawless, invincible, PERFECT. someone that people look up to and marvel. someone guys love and girls drool over. Someone with a semi-phat car, going to the beach and parties all the time. you know. well you see, I've had a big taste of that and n
w it's gone. Maybe there was a reason though. It was right when amber entered my life and maybe God didn't want me to screw up this time. well, dear God : I UNDERSTAND ok?? please. I know I screwed up for a year or so but acne has kept me out of schoo
, baseball, mountian bikes.. everything. I just want to be as close to you as I can... as close to perfection as I can. Just don't tell me I"m possesed by demons. I have seen all the hallucinations and the 666 signs. I have tried. I have tried to b
ttle this disease. You know what I want, please, no acne, no scars. I"ve learned my lesson ok? I love amber, she's no play toy. I want her so bad I can taste it. I just want a final chance. please. I'm sorry, I"m sorry. I son't understand why me.
sincerely, bret anthony hedges (aka, adrian) does evryone red marks get worse while on accutane???? please say yes because they NEVER go away. anyway, in 26 more days I'll have 4 months over. After that, I"m outta this accutane shit. I want me,
oat soap and amber. please, I need that answered.. DOES EVERYONE'S RECMARKS AND PIPMLES GET REDDER AND MORE SEVERE ON ACCUTANE.
spunky - 11/17/99 11:23:31
My Email:spunky695
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
what the fuck is this????!!!!!!! man you guys thought I was crazy!! who, what and just what the hell is going on. Well... hmmm, I was going to post but now I;m kinda afraid. I think I discovered a new revolation.. if u would like me to enlighten you t
e email me. as for the rest of you, charter can help :) p.s-I ordered more goat soap, thank the lord for goats titties huh???
adrian
Jayne - 11/17/99 11:11:14
My Email:jayne.tremlett@bt.com
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Comments:
I'm just about to begin my second course of Roaccutane. I was originally given the drug about 4 years ago after about 8 years of suffering with acne. I experienced many of the side effects that others seem to have (dry skin, chapped lips etc...) & initi
lly my skin was much improved. However, it has been getting progressivly worse again. I continued to see my local dermatologist for treatment of my scars & she has now decided that I need a second course. Hopefully (blood test results pending) I should
tart again next week. My reason for posting on this site is twofold:
1) Has anyone ever had 2 courses of Roaccutane and was it more successful 2nd time round?
2) I've been suffering with acne for 12 years now so if anyone wants to know anything about my experiences, 4 years after taking Roaccutane, feel free to ask!
Thanks
Christian - 11/17/99 10:37:18
My Email:nicelad4@hotmail.com
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Comments:
Thea, you're welcome, but you don't have to thank me till you actually receive the package. I could have been bluffing you all the while. ;) Anyway, I just called up FedEx to check and they said that the package has arrived in US. That's good news. Just o
e more hurdle to cross and you should have it in your hands. Thanks for believing. Keep me informed. Ok, so everyone knows my name now, but still, it's better to address me as "Christian" over Gill's page, that being more familiar to most. "Blessed are th
peacemakers..." Regards from Singapore.=Þ
Scarring Prognosis: from HGPig - 11/17/99 09:24:20
Comments:
Thought you all might want some scarring remission data while on Accutane. While not universal, I hop this helps your confidence^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)))))))"J Eur Acad Dermatol Venereol 1998 Sep;11(2):117-21
Medium dose isotretinoin for the treatment of acne.
Hermes B, Praetel C, Henz BM
Department of Dermatology, Charite-Virchow Clinic, Humboldt University, Berlin, Germany.
BACKGROUND: Although the efficacy of isotretinoin in the treatment of acne is unquestioned, improvement of patient tolerance and acceptance of the drug are desirable. Furthermore, no data on acne-induced scarring during isotretinoin treatment are availabl
. AIM: In the present study, we have evaluated the efficacy and tolerability of an initial stepwise incremental (n = 83) or an initial high dose (n = 11) and a subsequent medium maintenance dosing of isotretinoin in outpatients treated for acne over a 7 y
ar period. METHODS: Ninety-four patients with moderate to severe acne were treated for a mean duration of 8.3 months, at a mean daily dose of 31.4 mg. Follow-up and final evaluation were done during outpatient visits and with a standardized patient questi
nnaire. RESULTS: Response to treatment was very good in 62.8% and good in 31.9% of patients, with only one treatment failure. Of the patients, 21.3% required retreatment after a mean interval of 7.7 months. Four patients refused or dropped out from treatm
nt, 27% noted initial mild worsening of their acne, and none experienced severe adverse effects. Scars were present in 89.4% of patients, with improvement occurring in 67.9% during treatment. CONCLUSION: The altogether good to excellent clinical response
f acne lesions and acne scars, with a low side effect profile, warrants further study of this simple, modified treatment regimen in patients with acne and acne-induced scarring.
Publication Types:
Clinical trial ^^^^^^^)))))Best to you.
Lee - 11/17/99 08:33:33
My Email:kuli@yahoo.com
Gender: male
Age: 23
Comments:
Sorry, just wanted to leave an email in case someone can offer any advice. thanks
Lee - 11/17/99 08:32:49
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Comments:
I have been on Accutane for about 3 weeks now. Initially i had all the regular side effects like dry skin dry lips, and nosebleeds. However, recently i have developed red spots on my right hand? For some reason i am getting little red spots on the other s
de of my palms. It looks gross and i am wondering if anyone has had similar symptoms? I suppose this can be accounted for because of dry skin but i didnt know this was a possible side effect. i dont wanna look like i got aids or something...can anyone off
r any suggestions, info, or help? thanks.....
Sonia - 11/17/99 08:31:32
Gender: Female
Age: 29
Comments:
Well, its been a while since I've written but I thought I would let you all know that things are still great.....been off accutane since august and still clear and smooth....actually had kind of a scare last month during pms but it turned out to be just a
little teeny weeny pimple that was gone by morning......so on to better topics.....what is up with all the insults of the homelands???? I personally reside in Canada.....however I travel quite a bit to the US....in fact just returned last night from Miami
by car.....long drive but great none the less.....In fact it is a beatiful drive.....some of the most beatiful scenes.....Like Kentucky!!! Just gorgeous!!! Of course there are some bad areas like there are in all countries!!! I'm sure Australia is beatifu
but I'm sure it has some not so beatiful areas too. Canada is a very beatiful country as well especially as there are so many aspects of this large vast country.....
Anyway....to the Pig Guy (or Girl)....I have read most of your posts.....are you still doing the experimenting stuff??? is it still working??? Sorry, I just skip over your long posts as even though I'm sure they may be humourous.....they are kind of borin
after a while.....to the person who asked about hormonal acne......My story is a strange one....I never had acne at all until I reached my mid 20's....then it was all cystic...even though my skin was always dry....accutane cured my however, my periods st
ll involve 2 weeks of PMS (Bloating, cramps, breast tenderness, actually my bras go up 1 entire cup size for 2 weeks out of the month) So I can't help but wonder if getting my hormone level checked might help......I guess we'll just have to see!! Well eve
y one!! Good Luck and feel free to contact me if you have any questions....I'll try to answer any I can!!! Take care..sonia......sneri@sprint-canada.com
And - 11/17/99 08:15:48
Comments:
...And fools can risk their lives and rave, get "bombed" every weekend (or night), yet Accutane and most other monopolized "prescriptions" must be obtained as such. Safety risks?, just sign a consent form at the pharmacy (eg. not to become preg. while on
he "medication"). Under 18/21, parents can sign the consent. What will happen? Demand will soar, prices will fall, and we are free to choose our own lives. Does anyone drive a car?
Roche and MD Monopoly - 11/17/99 08:00:00
Comments:
If I am not mistaken, Roche is located in Switzerland. I too would like to be able to obtain Accutane without the shackles of prescription. MD's are always self-prescribing, and now 30% of residents tretinoin, and over 70% antibiotics self-prescribe. (MDs
even higher) Plus all the free "samples" are easily accessible to them. My policy, no one knows "thyself" better than "thyself". This is a viscious monopoly of leaching.
Lake Tahoe too.. - 11/17/99 07:51:31
Comments:
Lake Tahoe not to far also. (Clinton needs the accutane, if you can see him up-close)
60-90 minute drive - 11/17/99 07:49:35
Comments:
90 minutes drive up from Palm Springs into the Sierra Nevada's white Christmas, it's the beautiful thing about California.
- 11/17/99 07:33:21
Comments:
To "we tried to remove him..." who could use some accutane????
GW - 11/17/99 07:30:41
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
The Shark also has acquired a sickening accent that he is working on reversing. (does that mean no white Christmas for Palm Springs?!!!)
GW - 11/17/99 07:28:47
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
The Shark also has acquired a sickening accent that he is working on reversing. (does that mean no white Christmas for Palm Springs?!!!)
The Rocket lives in - 11/17/99 07:24:55
Comments:
The "Rocket" lives in Palm Springs, the sun is always shining (almost).
GW - 11/17/99 07:19:02
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Yeah, your dead right, Will. But who said this site was ever about acne? I had no idea...................
Ethnohistorian - 11/17/99 07:12:23
Comments:
How can one be Australian and not ethnocentrist - its a pre-requisite of living in this most successful nation.**********So why don't you take your ethnolinguistics and shove them where the sun don't shine (-most states of the US in November)
We tried to remove him - 11/17/99 07:12:00
Comments:
.. take a close up look, he could use some accutane. And one more thing, he'll eventually pay for it, it may not look like it to many but evil always revisits a person, in a guise that one may not recognize. No one is really paying any attention to him,
he first "payback" to one who lived for it. Be careful the "evil" it always re-manifests itself in some hidden form.
will - 11/17/99 07:08:41
Age: 20
Comments:
ummm, sorry people, i need something clarified... what has your USA v AUS thing got to do with acne and Roac? Maybe i am naive but this is a great site for the issue at hand (acne). Lets keep it that way. cheers.
To "comments" - 11/17/99 07:04:47
Comments:
Since you know the difference, is it real life or TV when your president fucks everything that moves and then blatantly lies/misleads the very people who voted him in? Was that real life, because I'm sure I could've seen that on one of those American soa
ies?
TO: BOY - 11/17/99 06:39:36
Comments:
This is not the Pig, so don't go accusing. You believe everything you see on TV....how sad. If I believed everything I see on TV, I would think very low of you guys too. Alas, I know the difference between real life and TV. Just wait, Boy, there will
ome a time when you will see just how destructive your ethnocentrist attitude is. Oh sorry, a big word.
Beautiful & Diverse - 11/17/99 06:38:02
Comments:
Here, let me name a few more beautiful places**********LA - crime capital of the world****************NY- stinking polluted mess*************Washington DC - housing the worlds most pathetic President*****************California- a fault line bigger than Di
k Diggler***********Florida*********tornadoes every five minutes************Wyoming- what a fucked up name for a State.
ALL RISE: Courtesy repost..The trial continues - 11/17/99 06:35:54
Comments:
ALL RISE - 11/16/99 22:00:35: Courtesy repost for our friends to the west.
"All rise please".....bang.....bang....bang.."I say again, all rise please," "Your Honor of the State , "case no. 1HGPig234077, People vs. HGPig this here-in date of November 1999~~~" "Please be seated" "Oh, and baliff, be on the lookout for that Kangaroo
with the black bow-tie-n-tales", "Yes your Honor." "Will the jury on all fours enter here-in" "Members of the jury, please be seated." "Defense may call it's first witness" "Defense calls, Tom Cruise mega dose vitamin c look alike, Bob "Muggzie" Topps to
e stand" "Bob Topps, do you swear to tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God, even when under the influence of marijuana?" "This I do your Honor, even when Britney in the corner over there is flashing me the eye."~~~~murmur~~~shuf
e~~~murmur~~~"Order I say..bang, bang, bang...order in the court!""quiet please! "Bob Topps, you may take the stand." "Defense, you may proceeed." "Thank you your Honor." "Mr Topps, have you not declared that in the past advocating the use of one "Cannab
" commonly known as marijuana, while on the prescription medication isotretinoin?" "Yes, I believe so, but I'm having trouble concentrating on your questions with that Britney and her friend Shania sitting in the back" "Britney!""Britney""Britney!""Britn
!"""whoof"!"whoof"!"whoof"..BANG...BANG...BANG.."ORDER!" "I told you American boyz yesterday to keep quiet in my court!!"...C-R-A-S-H````ka-chink, ka-chink..ka-chink " "what?" "Baliff, what's that?" "Someone just threw a rock through the courtroom window
".."What's going on down there?".."Your Honor! Your Honor! look".."We've got a situation on our hands.""who are they down there?" "look, there's a crowd over-there "chewin-the-fat."..It's not them, not them Hobart and Perthys is it?"..."I'm afraid so you
onor, and they've come armed with sticks and wickets in shark-skin garb"..."That kangaroo, with the bow-tie, better not be there, is he?".."I'm afraid so your Honor, armed with reinforcements from Kelsey's Woods and Canberra".."How can you tell?" "From he
muddy boots" "..."We have a situation for sure!".."Wait!..Wait! just one darn minute, look over on the otherside".."It's dem All-American Boyz to the rescue!"...."they've got their stars-n-stripe boards with them."...."Well baliff, how long can they a l l
st?".."Your Honor, I have some bad news for you, for a long long time" .."WHAT? OH NO HOW"?. "One called Christian nice-lad, is standing in the corner of the square, passing our free packs of 60 accutanes".."How did he get them here?" "He got them in hrou
h customs coloring them green, blue, and yellow, to make them look like jelly-beans".."Wait, something else!!!". "Someone on the otherside of the street is trying to do a pose-down".."Who?" "I know who, the spunky one!" "HGPig, I'm warning you stay a ay f
om that window!".."quiet down Amae"..."Call out the guard!!!".."The witness Bob Topps may step down due to the emergency".."Court is in recess until further notice"..."We have a situation on our hands!!!!"
GW - 11/17/99 06:33:34
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Emphasis on the word "boy" yet the Poofy Pig fails to reveal how old he really is.
To "comments" - 11/17/99 06:30:02
Comments:
I don't need to go - I've seen enough of it on TV. Besides, have you ever been to Aust., the county which you refer to as "Back of Beyond" (that's good, the further we are away from you stinking, polluted, debt-ridden people the better.)
to bob topps - 11/17/99 06:25:43
Comments:
how come when i click on www.pizzaface.com i get the parent directory? i was expecting to see a tom cruise look alike
To: GW - 11/17/99 06:18:00
Comments:
Before you go knocking on other people's homelands, don't you think you should at least travel them first? What sort of basis can a 17 year old BOY have on America? I can name 50 places that are diverse and beautiful- Alabama, Arizona, Alaska, Arkansas.
...etc.
GW - 11/17/99 06:13:06
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Just to clear the slate, I never called HGPIG an idiot. (At least not in my last few posts........) Please differentiate between mine and "Randy" comments. Randy may have been feeling quite "randy" when he posted which may explain the outburst.*********
***To the one who said I am "foolish." The US beautiful!!!!!!!!Diverse!!!!!!! Please explain what parts of the country fit this criteria as I am very confused. As for our convict culture, well that's because The Great Southern Land was the only place le
t in the world that wasn't a stinking, over-populated mess - and nothing's changed.
Thea - 11/17/99 06:01:56
My Email:rmccloud@mail.wsu.edu
Age: 21
Comments:
Hansel: Hi, I just read your post...I am so excited about the accutane arriving here. Wow that was kind of expensive for you to send it by Fed Ex huh..Well I hope you know I am very grateful. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, and I will keep you u
dated..As for now I am on week 4, and my skin is improving by a lot. I have more self confidence than I have had in years. To everybody else, this wonderful gentleman has given me free accutane, can you believe that? I am very lucky. Thanks again, tal
again soon.....
Amae - 11/17/99 06:00:28
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: fem-bot
Age: 21
Comments:
I filled my Accutane scrip today and begin taking it tomorrow :) Derm said that drinking on my B-day would probably be okay, as long as it was not a whole keg or anything. He also told me that I absolutely MUST be on birth control during treatment. HGP
g- what is going on in your trial? You are slipping back into your weird mode-hahahhaha! ~Amae
- 11/17/99 05:52:46
Comments:
To the foolish Aussie that said America was created by a war: at least this beautiful and diverse country was not created originally as a prison.
silena - 11/17/99 05:45:01
Comments:
OH... my message about what protein powder I use was meant for SHAWN...
PROTEIN POWDER - 11/17/99 05:42:02
My URL:http://www.oocities.org/HotSprings/Sauna/2103/silena1.jpg
My Email:silena100@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
I use a PROTEIN POWDER by Optimum Nutrition called Pro Complex. I like it because it is a blend of proteins rather than being just whey or egg or soy. The label says the serving size is 2 scoops at 53g protein and 50% (2500 IU) vit A, but if you use just
NE scoop per serving (who needs 53g of protein at once, anyway?), then the amount of vit A is only 25%. That's all I have to say for now. PEACE!!!
Think of Silena and The Board >>> - 11/17/99 05:35:57
Comments:
Think of anthocyanins, as more of "super" antioxidants. Without re-posting the research (see the archives). When on accutane, the body can use a constant "boost", (even a super boost). Additionally, bone density can suffer (if you want I can post this re
earch, in detail, also. This is why I recommend my Protein shake with anthocyanins and milk for calcium, additionally this product contains 500mg of calcium on top of the milk per serving. Best to you.
Will The Non-Contrbutor - 11/17/99 05:26:02
Comments:
Will the non-contributor "Randy", who self-declares itself "sir", ever say anything here that will help people to improve their skin physiology?
silena - 11/17/99 05:22:25
My URL:http://www.geotcities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2103/silena.jpg
My Email:silena100@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
Ok, I live in the U.S., so nasty comments about HGPig's home offend me also. Let's not offend me; I can kick your butt! LOL (j/k) HGP does in fact answer a lot of questions with informative answers, so I think it is unfair to call him an idiot. The probl
m I DO have, however (ahem, HGPig, please pay attention) is when he posts the research without any further explanation. HGP, I understand why you posted the androgen/acne research (no explanations needed there!), but I didn't understand why you posted the
cherry/anthocyanin research. I even asked you about it, but you didn't answer me. I have read the research before, I know what anthocyanins are, I know about antioxidants, etc... What I had asked was why you pinpointed that particular research and anthoc
anins in your experiment with vitamin supplements. Most of the excerpts you have posted have been self-explanatory; from now on, it would be great if you would add you own summary or explanation to the research you post. Sum of us peepol on this here sit
jes ain't as edjukatid as you be.
To: Shawn and the Board - 11/17/99 05:17:44
Comments:
To: Shawn - 11/16/99 23:05:40 and the Board:~~~~
sounds like you keep improving. Thought you might like to know of another protein supplement product. It does have less vitamin A (A palmitate) at only 35%. It's called Protein Powder Dietary Supplement by Science Labs Nutrition. They make a chocolate a
so, but the vanilla flavor is super. I mix 3 large scoops of ice cream (Breyers Lite) with 2-3 spoons of Science Labs Powder, with no-fat milk. It's rich and loaded with vitamins (but not too much). It contains supro soy protein isolate. I've alluded to t
is before, but I wanted to disclose this now since your looking for such. Oh, and one more fact, it's only 1g fat, if this is a concern to anyone. Just take accutane seperate from the drink. I have 3-4 of these shakes every day! besides my regular diet.
Best to all.
Emme - 11/17/99 05:12:38
My Email:saxgirl_nz@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 15
Comments:
I've been on Roaccutane for about 4 months and so far it's been really good. I have smooth skin now, but still inflammation so it looks like I have acne. My dermatologist says it should go in a few months - I hope !!
I've had all the common side effects, except one time when it felt like there was heaps of presure behind my eyes and I couldn't see. I was meant to get a scan done, but then my eyes came fine.
For the person asking about the blood, you can't donate because if a pregnant or breastfeeding mother gets your blood their baby might be DEFORMED!!!!!!!!
TO: Sharnae - - 11/17/99 05:02:54
Comments:
TO:Sharnae - 11/17/99 03:11:46
Gender: Female
Age: 23..Thank you for the excellent advice on laser treatment pre-caution. It's nice to have a real contributer here posting. Even expert dermatologists recommend doing research on individuals specializing in the procedure. Much appreciated contribution.
I will be cautious, as I have done very little research on laser work. Best to you.
To the "person" who calls themselves "randy" - 11/17/99 04:56:48
Comments:
Apparently you've really haven't read the posts here, or your to jealous to admit otherwise. HG posts have been informative, backed up with excellent scientific documentation, and to the point. Your writing is obscene, boring, and false. Have you even eve
been on accutane? Which is what this site is all about. If so, then you should know of 12 hour fasting before a legitimate blood work-up. HG never spoke of 12 hrs, as you say "everyday". You attempt to lie, by inserting the word "everyday". Quit lying, a
t civil, and maybe someone will someday listen to you also.
mermaid - 11/17/99 04:47:20
Gender: female
Age: 41
Comments:
In reguards to the laser treatment, my doctor informed me to wait at least 18 months. I weigh 135 pounds and am a size 6. I am taking 40mg alternating 2 pills every other day. I am on day 17. So far so good. Dry skin and lips. Beats the oily compect
on.
Sir Randy - 11/17/99 04:01:24
Comments:
Not EATING FOR 12 Hours! HAVE YOU GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING I THINK HGPIG HAS ILLUSTRATED WHAT HE REALLY IS, A BRAINDEAD DIMINUTIVE RODEN Listen, if you want to fast for 12 hours each day and only eat certain foods, your plain stupid. And all you do is ea
pills like a drug fucked animal. As highl ghted before, you have NO credentials, NO experience in any field, NO idea what the hell your talking about...........trying these harmful and dangerous ways of trying to reduce acne. This bloke doesnt now what
he hell he's going on about. Some kid trying to mix and match! LOL Hahahaha you bring the word COWBOY back into the equation. At least a fellow Aussie can put this idiot down where he belongs............people listen, this HGPig is what his name says, an
idiot little cocksucker who is trying to act like a doctor and whatever he thinks he is, If you want to fast for 12 hours and pop pills like a druggy be my guest! PLAIN AND UTTER IDIOT Signing off The Z master
- 11/17/99 03:29:59
Comments:
Oh, how we long to be in the homeland of the PIG. The land where its either earthquakes in the West, or crime and terorists in the East. We don't need to go to NY or LA, we can emulate this feat by sticking our mouths over the exhaust pipe on our cars..
.......Oh, and we can go to DC to visit the revered President.......don't offer him a cigar though.............but how ironic that we're ahead of you in time........ comiserations that we'll see in the new millenium before you......but it doesn't matter,
ou're such a proud place, because remember your country was created by a war, as opposed to a vote. What an outstanding democracy. And as we speak to you we are today, and you are yesterday......behind.....reflective of most things......and yes we know
ou love to claim "The Shark" but comiserations again.......he is by his own admissions a down under boy........
Sharnae - 11/17/99 03:11:46
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Comments:
I started Roaccutane about a year ago for 3 months on 20g a day... it worked wanders.. brilliant infact. Ofcourse the side affects were all present like dry lips and nose. 6 months later I decided that I wanted to get a laser fokr my scars which obviuosl
n didn't dissapear with the roac.. that only prevented new pimples from returnuing but not actually removing the scars. SO I had the Erbuim Laser on my face and oh my god... what a disaster.. I now have gianbt red circles under my eyes and the scars are
ow more noticable than ever... why because they're red from the laser not to mention the roaccutane which is super sensitive. Please anyone out there be extremely careful with this drug because you're skin actaully becomes twice as sensitive than in ever
before. If you get the odd cyst or pimple on Roaccutane, blieve me it will scar.. I don't care what the doctors say.
I'm now on it again after the Laser treatment because what do you know it's back again. I 've already had a pimple and it's scarred already too.. here we go again.
Reference for the Board - 11/17/99 02:29:43
Comments:
Here is the reference to hormone-sebaceous comparison study. Best to you>>>>>Androgen Metabolism in Sebaceous Glands From Subjects With and Without Acne
Diane Thiboutot, MD; Kathryn Gilliland, BS; Jan Light, LPN; Donald Lookingbill, MD
Objective To determine if there are differences in the activity of 17-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase and 5-reductase (responsible for the production of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone, respectively) in sebaceous glands obtained from men and women with
and without acne.
Design Single-center examination of androgen levels and sebaceous gland enzyme activity in a cohort of volunteers.
Setting Academic referral center.
Patients Thirty-four subjects, consisting of 8 women with acne, 10 women without acne, 8 men with acne, and 8 men without acne.
Interventions Single visit for blood sampling and 2 biopsies of forehead skin.
Main Outcome Measures Serum levels of androgens were determined and compared with the activity of 5-reductase and 17-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in sebaceous glands microdissected from skin samples.
Results No significant differences in the activity of 5-reductase or 17-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in sebaceous glands according to the presence of acne were noted in either men or women. The activity of 5-reductase and 17-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase
as significantly greater in sebaceous glands from men (n=16) than women (n=17). The oxidative activity of 17-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase was 2-fold higher in men than women. Serum levels of dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate, androstenedione, testosterone, a
d dihydrotestosterone were significantly higher in women with acne than in women without acne. No differences in serum androgen levels were noted in men on the basis of the presence of acne.
Conclusions Higher serum androgen levels are associated with the presence of acne in women. A role for locally produced androgens in this process, however, cannot be excluded.
Arch Dermatol. 1999;135:1041-1045
SEBUM PRODUCTION is stimulated by androgens and is key in the development of acne vulgaris.1-4 Several investigators have looked for direct relationships between serum androgen levels, sebum secretion rate, and the presence of acne.5 The presence of acne
n prepubertal girls and sebum production in both sexes correlate with serum dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEAS) levels.6, 7 Dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate is an adrenal precursor for synthesis of more potent androgens, such as testosterone and dihydrot
stosterone (DHT). Although increased serum androgen levels correlate with the presence of severe nodular acne in men and women, these levels are often within the normal range in mild to moderate acne.8 This raises the question of whether there is an incre
sed local production of androgens within the sebaceous gland (SG) of patients with acne vulgaris that leads to increased sebum secretion.9, 10
The SG possesses each of the steroid metabolizing enzymes needed to convert DHEAS to DHT11-13 (Figure 1). 3-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (3-HSD) reduces dehydroepiandrosterone to androstenedione. Two isozymes have been identified.14 17-Hydroxysteroid dehy
rogenase (17-HSD) is a reversible enzyme that can use different nucleotide cofactors and act either as an oxidase (to produce androstenedione from testosterone) or as a reductase (to produce testosterone from androstenedione). Recent-ly, 6 isozymes of 17-
SD have been described.15, 16 The type 2 isozyme is biochemically active in human SGs.17 Two isozymes of 5-reductase (5-R) (type 1 and type 2) have been identified.18-20 The type 1 isozyme of 5-R is predominant in SGs and is present in higher levels in ac
e-prone skin than in skin obtained from regions not prone to acne.21, 22
To date, no studies have been done to determine if there are sex-related differences in the activity of 17-HSD and 5-R in human sebaceous glands. Furthermore, it is not known if the activity of these enzymes is greater in SGs isolated from subjects with a
ne than in SGs from subjects without acne. The goal of this study was to determine if there are differences in the activity of 17-HSD and 5-R in SGs based on sex or the presence of acne. Serum androgen levels were determined and compared with tissue enzym
activity.
SUBJECTS AND METHODS
SUBJECTS
The study was approved by the institutional review board of Pennsylvania State University College of Medicine, Hershey. Men and women aged 18 to 45 years with and without acne were recruited especially for this study. Subjects with acne were defined as ha
ing a minimum of 15 comedones and 10 inflammatory papules on the face. Subjects were excluded if they had received oral antibiotics within 1 month before the study; used topical acne medications such as antibiotics, benzoyl peroxide, or tretinoin within 2
weeks before the study; received treatment in the past with oral retinoids; had known underlying endocrine disease, such as congenital adrenal hyperplasia, polycystic ovary syndrome, or adrenal or ovarian tumor; or were currently using oral contraceptives
contraceptive injection, implantable contraceptives, estrogens, prednisone, other corticosteroids, or finasteride.
PROCEDURES
All women were studied in the luteal phase of their menstrual cycle. Blood samples were taken for serum DHEAS, androstenedione, total and free testosterone, DHT, and 3-androstanediol glucuronide. Skin biopsies of the forehead were performed as follows. A
2-mm elliptical excision (4 mm at its widest point) was made from each side of the forehead, approximately 6 mm from the hairline. Skin was excised in the subcutaneous layer and a layered closure was performed. Skin specimens were transported on ice to th
dermatology laboratory, where microdissections were performed according to previously described techniques.22
Biochemical assays for the activities of 17-HSD and 5-R were performed on isolated SG as previously described.22, 23 Samples were incubated at 37°C at pH 5 and 7. Incubations for 5-R were carried out for 30 minutes, and those for 17-HSD were carried out f
r 60 minutes. The substrate for the 5-R reaction was tritiated testosterone (106 disintegrations per minute) in the presence of 10-µmol/L cold testosterone and 500-µmol/L nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide phosphate as a cofactor. The same isotope was used
as the substrate for the oxidative reaction of 17-HSD, but nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (1 µmol/L) was used as the cofactor. Tritiated androstenedione (106 disintegrations per minute) in the presence of 10-µmol/L cold androstenedione was used as the
ubstrate for the reductive activity of 17-HSD, and nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide reduced (1 µmol/L) was used as the cofactor.
Enzyme activity was calculated by means of the net percentage conversion of substrate, the molar concentration of substrate, and the incubation volume. To account for potential differences in the sizes of SG assayed and, hence, differences in enzyme activ
ty, data were normalized to SG protein concentration. Data are expressed as picomoles of product per minute per milligram of protein.
SERUM ANDROGENS
Serum levels of DHEAS, testosterone, DHT, and 3-androstanediol glucuronide were determined by means of radioimmunoassay methods previously described.11
DATA ANALYSIS
Unpaired t tests on log base 10 transformed data were used to compare enzyme activity between men and women and subjects with and without acne. The same test was used to compare serum androgens between groups. A paired t test using log transformed data wa
used to compare activity of different enzymes within the same groups. Correlation coefficients between enzyme activities in the SG and serum androgen levels were determined on the basis of sex and the presence of acne. Significance of the correlation was
tested at a 95% confidence interval with Fisher r to z test.
RESULTS
A total of 34 subjects were studied: 8 women with acne (meanSD age, 315 years), 10 women without acne (mean age, 337 years), 8 men with acne (mean age, 267 years), and 8 men without acne (mean age, 347 years). The acne grade was mild in all subjects exami
ed. The mean (SEM) total lesion counts in men and women with acne were 419 and 447, respectively.
TISSUE ENZYME ACTIVITIES
Activities of 5-R and of 17-HSD in SG from the forehead were compared in men and women with and without acne (Table 1). No significant differences were noted in enzyme activity based on the presence of acne in either men or women. Although the mean activi
ies of 5-R and 17-HSD were higher in SG from women with acne than women without acne, these differences did not achieve statistical significance (P=.08 and .19, respectively).
The mean tissue enzyme activities of 5-R, reductive 17-HSD, and oxidative 17-HSD were significantly greater in men than women, with respective P values of .05, less than .001, and .004 (unpaired t test) (Figure 2).
The mean activity (SEM) of 5-R in SG was significantly greater than both the reductive and oxidative activity of 17-HSD in all groups of subjects studied. Corresponding P values are given in Table 1.
SERUM ANDROGENS
Mean serum levels (SEM) of DHEAS, androstenedione, testosterone, free testosterone, and DHT (but not 3-androstanediol glucuronide) were significantly greater in women with acne than women without acne, by unpaired t test (Table 2). No differences in serum
androgen levels were noted in men on the basis of the presence of acne.
CORRELATION OF TISSUE ENZYME ACTIVITY AND SERUM ANDROGEN LEVELS
Tissue enzyme activity correlated with serum androgen levels only in women without acne. Reductive activity of 17-HSD correlated with serum androstenedione level (r=0.948, P<.001) and total testosterone level (r=0.673, P=.04). Activity of 5-R in SG correl
ted with serum androstenedione level (r=0.658, P=.04) and DHT level (r=0.671, P=.03). No correlation was noted between tissue enzyme activity and serum androgens in women with acne or in men with or without acne.
COMMENT
The relationship between serum androgen concentrations and the local production of androgens within sebaceous glands is not clear. Acne is associated with elevated serum androgen levels in women with virilizing tumors and with elevated serum DHEAS levels
n both men and women with partial adrenal hydroxylase deficiencies.8 Whether androgens from the systemic circulation act directly to stimulate the sebaceous glands or whether they act indirectly to stimulate enzymes involved in androgen production within
he sebaceous gland itself is not known.
TISSUE ENZYME ACTIVITIES IN SUBJECTS WITH AND WITHOUT ACNE
Our data fail to demonstrate any significant difference in tissue enzyme activity based on the presence of acne. Although a trend toward higher 5-R activity and reductive activity of 17-HSD was noted in SG from women with acne compared with women without
cne, the power to detect such a difference in this study may have been limited by the small sample size.
TISSUE ENZYME ACTIVITIES IN MEN COMPARED WITH WOMEN
The activity of 5-R was significantly greater in SGs from men compared with glands from women. In addition, the oxidative activity of 17-HSD was 2- to 3-fold higher in SGs from men compared with women. As a reversible enzyme, 17-HSD can either produce the
potent androgen testosterone (via reduction) or, in effect, "inactivate" it by converting it back to androstenedione (via oxidation). The type 2 isozyme of 17-HSD is active in human SGs. This isozyme prefers to oxidize testosterone to its less active prec
rsor. In this regard, it has been suggested that the oxidative activity of the type 2 isozyme may protect target tissues (such as the SG) from the effects of potent androgens.24 In this study, there was not much difference between the oxidative and reduct
ve activities of 17-HSD. This is an artifact of the assay system, which uses homogenized glands that were provided with excess amounts of cofactors. In studies of intact SGs without added cofactors, the oxidative activity of 17-HSD predominates over its r
ductive activity by a much wider margin than in homogenized SGs.17
COMPARISON OF 5-R AND 17-HSD ACTIVITY IN SG
Few large studies have compared the activities of 17-HSD and 5-R in the same SG samples obtained from facial skin of both men and women. Our data demonstrate that 5-R is 2- to 4-fold more active than 17-HSD in sebaceous glands from both men and women. Bot
5-R and the oxidative 17-HSD enzymes compete for testosterone as a substrate. With predominance of 5-R activity, the net effect within SGs is the conversion of testosterone to the more potent androgen DHT, which in turn is thought to mediate sebum produc
ion. Interestingly, the opposite is true in keratinocytes cultured from the infrainfundibulum of vellus follicles of forehead skin.23 In these cells, the activity of 17-HSD is 2.5- to 8-fold greater than the activity of 5-R. Hence, vellus follicles from t
e face may be better protected from the effects of potent androgens than SGs because of predominance of 17-HSD oxidative activity over activity of 5-R.
THE ROLE OF SERUM ANDROGENS
Serum androgen levels were significantly higher in women with acne than in those without acne. Interestingly, these values were still within the normal range. No differences in serum androgen levels were noted in men on the basis of the presence of acne.
ur data demonstrate that the highest specific activity of 17-HSD and 5-R was found in groups with the highest serum androgen levels. For example, enzyme activity was significantly greater in SGs from men than in those from women. Therefore, tissue enzyme
ctivity may be proportional to serum androgen levels. Tissue enzyme activity correlated directly with serum androgen levels only in women without acne.
Possible interpretations of these data include the following: (1) Serum levels of androgens may play a role in the development of acne in women by acting directly on SGs, by stimulating local tissue enzyme activity, or both. (2) Serum androgens are less i
portant than nonhormonal factors in the pathogenesis of acne in men. (3) Tissue enzyme activity in men may be maximally stimulated by their serum levels of androgens.
The effects of androgens on acne are most evident in women. If serum androgens serve as substrates for sebaceous gland enzymes, women with acne may have greater tissue production of androgens than women without acne if the activity of 5-R is increased wit
in their SGs. Alternatively, serum levels of androgens may be more important than locally produced androgens in modulating sebum production.
CONCLUSIONS
It is clear that acne is a multifactorial disease. Sebum is one part of the equation. Many men do not have acne despite their high levels of androgens compared with women. Furthermore, many individuals have high sebum production, yet they do not develop a
ne. Currently available hormonal therapies for acne act either to reduce the production of androgens by the adrenal gland or ovary or to inhibit the action of androgens at the target site (SG) by blocking the androgen receptor. This in turn leads to decre
sed sebum production. There are no hormonal therapies available that specifically block androgen-metabolizing enzymes within the SG. Such therapies may be beneficial in treating acne if sebum production is mediated by locally produced androgens. Whether s
bum production is modulated by systemic androgens, locally produced androgens, or a combination of both still remains to be determined. This is one research question that will most likely be answered in the clinical setting as specific inhibitors of andro
en-metabolizing enzymes become available.
Author/Article Information
From the Section of Dermatology, Division of Internal Medicine, Pennsylvania State University College of Medicine, Hershey (Dr Thiboutot and Mss Gilliland and Light); and Department of Dermatology, The Mayo Clinic at Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Fla (Dr Lo
kingbill).
Corresponding author: Diane Thiboutot, MD, Section of Dermatology, Pennsylvania State University College of Medicine, 500 University Dr, Hershey, PA 17033 (e-mail: dthibout@med.hmc.psghs.edu).
Accepted for publication October 27, 1998.
This work was supported by a Leaders Society Dermatology Foundation Clinical Career Development Award, Evanston, Ill; the Pennsylvania State University Dermatology Research Endowment Fund, Hershey; a grant from Unilever Research US, Inc, Edgewater, NJ; an
grant K08AR02018 from the National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, Md.>>>>Maybe technical, but hope it helps some here......Best to you.
HMMM - 11/17/99 02:21:50
Comments:
HMM....Directly north latitude of the United States is Canaustrailia.
- 11/17/99 02:16:53
Comments:
I don't understand why some of you decide to turn this into a canada vs united states board. That's not what this is here for.
strawberry - 11/17/99 01:48:24
Gender: 100% male
Age: 19
Comments:
Can someone please tell me why people who are on Accutane are NOT allowed to DONATE BLOOD?? What is it that Accutane does to your blood? AND can someone please tell me what a cyst looks like or is? and to JULIE(age 27), thank you, you give me hope.
Well THE ROCKET!! - 11/17/99 00:51:54
Comments:
Wonder why the Rocket chose to marry a U.S. girl, and choose to live in the U.S.? Dare try to compare Greg Norman with Jack??...Greg's idol. Oh, and guess where Greg lives now? And guess what company he chose to buy majority shares?
GW - 11/17/99 00:42:13
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
Pat Rafter, Kieren Perkins, Michael Klim, Mark Phillipousis, Lleyton Hewitt, Greg Norman................and who were Sampras' idols......Rod Laver and Ken Rosewall (both Aussies)............... not to mention the current World Champions in Rugby Union, Ne
ball, Cricket and the world number one surfer Mark Occhiloupo. And where is Agassi and the gang in next month's Davis Cup Final (Australia v France).**************You seem to be big on research PIG, so next time you hit the books how about finding out th
t offcially Australia is the most successful sporting nation per capita in the world.
To: Pete Hawkes - 11/16/99 20:41:59 - 11/16/99 23:47:36
Comments:
Pete Hawkes - 11/16/99 20:41:59: Yes, Roche I agree, but also they control a monopoly on this pharmaceutical. I understood the patent was to run out soon, but I am not sure, will have to check on this. In the mean time Roche can set basically any price
n accutane. It would be best if the manufacturing process were posted. Since Accutane is an analog of Retinoic Acid.
I'm Having a GREAT day! - 11/16/99 23:40:28
Comments:
Keep yourself well nourished while on Accutane (or any medication) for that matter. "vigorous" low impact movement, THAT STIMULATES BLOOD CIRCULATION, will lift the spirits, and help you to sleep well. I keep saying, take a golf or tennis lesson from a se
y professional, or do some cycling. Best to you.
Shawn - 11/16/99 23:05:40
My Email:sbrooks@portare.com
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
Day 22 of Accutane treatment (Week 3) -- Man what's up with everyone today? Everbody's all bummed out! Must be a case of the blues going around. Sorry to hear that you're all having a poopy day. And to the person asking about how lonmg side effects wi
l last -- what side effects are you experiencing after a week of Accutane? What is your dosage? I am 125 lbs. and on 20mg 2x a day. That has given me the dry skin (with moisturizer though it's not really dry at all -- just not oily which is the best) m
lips are dry and cracked a little, but lip balm helps with that, a little drying of the eyes, but not to the point where I can't handle it. Also, my hair is a little dry and appetite is low. That's really all, except for mental clarity -- I'm not as sp
nky (haha) as I usually am. So, I'm not sure what kind of effects or what dosage you are on, but the bigger the dose the more side effects (so I gather). I go in for my blood test Friday and I'm wondering if my doc is going to raise the dosage. She jus
may. Then I may REALLY have something to write about. And to PIG -- thanks for your tidbit on the tri's. That's really helped. Being that I am athletic, have a good diet and drink water like it's endangered should assist in keeping them down. I also
was going to start a supplement protein drink today too that my husband gets from his endorsers and I looked at the ingredients and it contains Vitamin A at 110%. I suppose I should refrain from taking that while taking Accutane -- eh, Mr. PIG? So, I wa
crushed -- it's dutch chocolate. MMMMMMMM. So, hope everyone is well. And thanks to those of you that are post-Accutane that are informing us of your progress. Gives those of us in the beginning stages a light at the end of the tunnel.
:-)
- 11/16/99 23:01:23
Comments:
Thank you for the reply about hormonal acne.
To make it a RELaVENT question... Women over twenty, with darkening facial hair, irregular periods are likely to have hormonal acne if it is sudden. Hormonal acne is also associated to ovarian tumors....I am all of the above so go to the doctor if accuta
e does not work you may have a hormone interrupting tumor.
ALL RISE - 11/16/99 22:00:35
Comments:
"All rise please".....bang.....bang....bang.."I say again, all rise please," "Your Honor of the State , "case no. 1HGPig234077, People vs. HGPig this here-in date of November 1999~~~" "Please be seated" "Oh, and baliff, be on the lookout for that Kangaroo
with the black bow-tie-n-tales", "Yes your Honor." "Will the jury on all fours enter here-in" "Members of the jury, please be seated." "Defense may call it's first witness" "Defense calls, Tom Cruise mega dose vitamin c look alike, Bob "Muggzie" Topps to
he stand" "Bob Topps, do you swear to tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God, even when under the influence of marijuana?" "This I do your Honor, even when Britney in the corner over there is flashing me the eye."~~~~murmur~~~shuf
le~~~murmur~~~"Order I say..bang, bang, bang...order in the court!""quiet please! "Bob Topps, you may take the stand." "Defense, you may proceeed." "Thank you your Honor." "Mr Topps, have you not declared that in the past advocating the use of one "Cannab
s" commonly known as marijuana, while on the prescription medication isotretinoin?" "Yes, I believe so, but I'm having trouble concentrating on your questions with that Britney and her friend Shania sitting in the back" "Britney!""Britney""Britney!""Britn
y!"""whoof"!"whoof"!"whoof"..BANG...BANG...BANG.."ORDER!" "I told you American boyz yesterday to keep quiet in my court!!"...C-R-A-S-H````ka-chink, ka-chink..ka-chink " "what?" "Baliff, what's that?" "Someone just threw a rock through the courtroom window
!".."What's going on down there?".."Your Honor! Your Honor! look".."We've got a situation on our hands.""who are they down there?" "look, there's a crowd over-there "chewin-the-fat."..It's not them, not them Hobart and Perthys is it?"..."I'm afraid so you
Honor, and they've come armed with sticks and wickets in shark-skin garb"..."That kangaroo, with the bow-tie, better not be there, is he?".."I'm afraid so your Honor, armed with reinforcements from Kelsey's Woods and Canberra".."How can you tell?" "From
he muddy boots" "..."We have a situation for sure!".."Wait!..Wait! just one darn minute, look over on the otherside".."It's dem All-American Boyz to the rescue!"...."they've got their stars-n-stripe boards with them."...."Well baliff, how long can they a
l last?".."Your Honor, I have some bad news for you, for a long long time" .."WHAT? OH NO HOW"?. "One called Christian nice-lad, is standing in the corner of the square, passing our free packs of 60 accutanes".."How did he get them here?" "He got them in
hrough customs coloring them green, blue, and yellow, to make them look like jelly-beans".."Wait, something else!!!". "Someone on the otherside of the street is trying to do a pose-down".."Who?" "I know who, the spunky one!" "HGPig, I'm warning you stay a
ay from that window!".."quiet down Amae"..."Call out the guard!!!".."The witness Bob Topps may step down due to the emergency".."Court is in recess until further notice"..."We have a situation on our hands!!!!"
Laura - 11/16/99 21:49:00
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
Question: I will be ending my accutane treatment in April. I'm planning on getting a nose job in June. Will i have to wait longer because of the effects of the accutane??
TO JULIE - 11/16/99 21:17:18
Comments:
I've been taking accutane for a week....and the side affects are horrible. So will they get better or will it be like this for 5 months??
Pete Hawkes - 11/16/99 20:41:59
My Email:Petehawkes@freeuk.com
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Comments:
HELP!!! I had severe to mild acne and I have finished a 4 month course of Roaccutane, now I am totally clear and my acne on my face has gone and the scarring and red marks have also nearly gone, so Roaccutane is excellent I was prescribed 50mg a day and i
worked very well. What I want to know is can anyone tell me if I can get Roaccutane without a script from anywhere or anyone??? Cos I want some in stock incase I get a slight relapse, I can get more from my derm but I will have to wait till it is severe
ntill he gives me some more, I dont want that, when I see abit of oily skin I want to shovel in more Roaccutane to stop it before it starts,can you see my point??? There must be somewhere I can get it, I know a few pharmacies in Spain and Turkey but I can
afford to fly out there just to pick up Roaccutane, some one must know of an internet site or can anyone get extra and I will pay you very well for your help. I know this sounds abit weird but you people must know how I feel and I dont want a single spot
returning, call me paranoid but there you go!!! I am also a bodybuilder and if there are any other bodybuilders out there who want to chat about training, steroids e.t.c. e-mail me ok.Take care all of you and keep on the Roaccutane....thank god for Roche!
!! Bye..Pete
ADRIANA - 11/16/99 20:12:45
My Email:anino@editorial.televisa.com.mx
Gender: female
Age: 29
Comments:
Hi! I¨m writning from Mexico City. I have been suffering from acne, since I was 15.I visited a new dermatologist and gave me Roaccuttan. Finally my zitz are under control! But before these treatment he gave me Diane, and I got a lot of dark spots in my fa
e. Does anybody knows what can I aplly to get rid of them while taking roaccutan. I need a product without acids, cause it can irritate a lot my skin. Thanks. Good luck to everybody in Roa, it´s a wonderful medicine.
Adriana
Bo bTopps - 11/16/99 18:20:13
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
re: Accutane effects on hormonal acne: considering zits are "caused" by overactive sevaceuos glands and Accutance regulates (temporaily) them Id give it a go..
I realize increased PHOTOSENSITIVITY when on antibiotics and retin-A like I am. Does this include flourescent lights as well (ie the kind in Bradlees department stores)..Beacse i have a relative who is a Dermatologist and he says even indoor light can tap
the3 vitamins from our skin and cause damage..
i've also heard that tom Cruise megadoses on Vitamin C and E (as part of that Scientology stuff) and thus ahs great complexion..
Good Luck!
Jeff - 11/16/99 17:55:12
My Email:jeff21pitt@yahoo.com
Gender: male 20
Age: 80mg day just finished 6mth course last week
Comments:
Rachelle Cawston-----I'm kinda glad that this site doesn't get caught up in the "myth" that Accutane causes depression. I feel that there is just a casual link between depression and Accutane. One that doesn't really warrant much attention. There is ce
tainly no scientific explaination for any cause of depression with people on Accutane. I believe the acne is what depresses people and not the Accutane. I mean, of course if your on Accutane and it's not working than some people tend to get depressed.
hile your researching try and find out if there are any people who Accutane worked well for, but they are still depressed. I'm sure this number will be far less than those who weren't pleased with the results of Accuatane. Keep in mind, that 25% of all
mericans experience a bout of depression (lasts over two weeks) at some time. I had no problems with my six month course that I just finished last week. In addition, none of my friends who have been on Accutane have experienced depression. I have also
esearched this issue and others involving acne for about half a year now, and still haven't changed my mind about Accutane and depression. I am a third year pharmacy student at the University of Pittsburgh, and I have also talked to a number of my profes
ors (all pharmacists or doctors), about Accutane, and they feel the same way as I do. Best of Luck with your last year in med-school, if it's anything like pharmacy school over here I feel your pain.
Karen - 11/16/99 17:49:47
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Comments:
I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination and probably know less than most people with regards to the causes and different types of acne. However, I am a sufferer and from what I can gather, Roaccutane is prescribed for ACNE whatever the cause or
type - providing your doctor/dermatologist thinks it is the appropriate form of medication to prescribe. So, in response to the question regarding 'HORMONAL ACNE'... I have no idea what type of acne I have and whether it is hormonal or not and I'm almost
certain that my dermatologist doesn't either. All I know is that having visited the derm in relation to my mild/moderate acne, I was prescribed Roaccutane. I think it would have taken a few years to find out whether I have acne due to hormones, stress,
ake-up, food and all the various types of the above. So I don't think the question is really relevant - I could be wrong and if so, I apologise, but I also suggest you visit the doctor and see what he/she says!
paul - 11/16/99 17:25:11
My URL:http://www.oocities.org/roaccutane999
My Email:paul@holliday999.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: male
Age: 18
Comments:
well, I have been off the drug for sometime, and am getting a few small small ones, can anyone help me with a replase, anyone, HELP! I don't want to go back to how it was.... and I have just started going out with somone. please someone.
- 11/16/99 16:48:05
Comments:
For the eight time : Will accutane help hormonal acne? please reply. I first asked this weeks ago and still nothing, i would appreciate any feedback hgpig do you know anything about this (smarty pants) judt kidding....thank you.
- 11/16/99 16:47:12
Comments:
For the eight time : Will accutane help hormonal acne? please reply. I first asked this weeks ago and still nothing, i would appreciate any feedback hgpig do you know anything about this (smarty pants) judt kidding....thank you.
cj - 11/16/99 16:34:19
Gender: female
Age: 46
Comments:
Hello everyone. I am the mother of a 17 yr. old son who has been suffering with mild to increasingly moderate inflammatory acne. He has tried several different antibiotics and after these did not make much of a difference his doctor prescribed accutane.
After checking with friends who have taken accutane and doing research on the drug, he was not yet ready to deal with the side effects. His understanding doctor prescribed differin gel and ampicillin for one last option. This combination after 10 wks.
as really worked. The first 6 wks. he did have a flare up and almost gave up but stuck with it and after the 8th week there was definite improvement. After 10 weeks it is amazing and seems to be improving every day. He is so happy. This treatment take
patience but is so worth it. Aside from the initial flare up, he has had no side effects. I hope this can help someone else. Good luck to all.
- 11/16/99 14:57:32
My Email:bry1431741@aol.com
Gender: female
Age: 23
Comments:
Hi! I dont want to come across as trying to sell something but I have found a make up that is the best in the world (at least thats my opinion)and I just wanted to share it with you. Anyways I started using it before accutane during and I will use it afte
. My docter tried to get me to use it and for awhile I hesitated (its $ 45.00) finally I gave in and Im in love. I havent used anything else since.I also got my best friend who has flawless skin to use it and she loves it as well. My aunt and my mom are g
ing to get it . Anyways about the make up it is a powder concealer and base in one. It comes in the form of a powder. It has great coverage. Seeings how Im in the battle with red marks right now when you put it on you can hardley even see them. If at all.
Since it is a powder its not like those other all in ones and doesnt get shiny. If you like you can touch up once a day but you dont haver to. It is made of minerals so it is good for your face and wont aggravate the acne that is already there. It has a s
nscreen in it which protects you from the sunrays. Its called Jane Irdeal.I talked to my doc and she said I could give out her info to anyone interested. She can try to help you find someone near you who carries the product or she can send you info and sa
ples . She or her assistant would be more than happy to give you all the information of this product if you want to call. I dont want to give any wrong or misleading info so if you would like to talk to her you can email me and i will give you her toll fr
e number. Anyways I just thought you would like to know I know Im very pleased.
Julie - 11/16/99 14:13:31
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Comments:
Hello Everyone
I just wanted to let those whom just started taking accutaine or are thinking about starting it. The changes that I have experienced since I have been on it. I am on my 3rd month of 80 mg a day. I suffered from headaches, joint aches, severe dryness of
he lips and and face. Especailly around the nose. I also was exhausted all the time. With in the last 2 weeks things have changed dramatically. I feel like myself again and my skin is dry but the weather is changing and that has a lot to do with it.
My derm said it is because my body is now fully accepting the accutaine. If there is anyone out there not sure about going on accutaine, these things don't last and they are tollerable. Accutaine has changed me so much. I love looking at my face now.
nd saying I have nice skin. A warning though do not pick your face. If you pick even a little you will have a huge scar. I also drink alcohol on the weekends sometimes twice a weekend and I am fine, I don't drink a wicked lot but social drinking. Thre
tips drink a ton of water, use a ton of moisturizer, and a top of lip balm. Good LUck and it so worth it!!!
Jewel - 11/16/99 12:17:25
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Comments:
Hi all fellow sufferers! Just wanted to say that I've been on this "beauty enhancing drug" now for 4 weeks, and I've never seen my forehead like this before. It's sooo clear. Nothing! Not a zit, not a blackhead, not even a scab! Alleluia! The rest of may
ace is still a total mess of course, but hey, I think it's happening! Keep well everyone. Hello to GRACE, and all AUSSIES!
Rachelle Cawston - 11/16/99 12:04:53
My Email:pickaboo@email.com
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Comments:
I am a 4th Year medical student at the University of Sydney, Australia. I am undertaking a thesis of this actual website. I hope to specialise in this field, but what I want to bring up is that the person monitoring this forum should pay greater attention
to depression and Roaccutane. I feel it is its greatest fault, not the external and internal side effects. I once did have acne, not severe, but it slowly went away, and I'm greatful. Please respond to my questions
It is of upmost importance. Thanking you
Rachelle Cawston (4th Year Med. Student)
J - 11/16/99 09:47:02
Gender: male
Age: 20
Comments:
Regarding the cortizone injection depressions. I have had several of the rounded depressions from left over cysts that were injected. It happens quite commonly for me, especially on accutane. The good news is that they go away eventually if you don't m
ss around with them much. The redness also enhances the effect of the depression making it look worse. I know that they are a real pain in the butt, but my experience has shown that they fad in about 3-6 weeks. But that is just my experience and I can'
speak for others. Some things that I believe have helped them heal faster is using tretinoin or differen. I use it once every three days to avoid unecessary skin irritation because of the accutane. I also use glycolic acid products to refresh the top
layers of skin. I feel that this helps a bit too. I also take about 400IU of vitamin E a day. Try these and see if they help you, but be careful not to use to many topica products while on accutane, good luck.
Christian - 11/16/99 09:32:37
My Email:nicelad4@hotmail.com
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Comments:
Hi Thea, I didn't see the need to respond immediately to your earlier post as I had already replied to you via email. Neither did I wish to make a defense here to those who were doubtful of my intention. Anyway, just 2 hours ago, the FedEx delivery man ha
picked up the package. It should reach you in 24 hours time. It cost S$56, slightly more than I expected... but hey, so long as the package reaches you, it's no problem for me. For the next 24 hours, I'll be worried whether the package will make it throu
h the customs. Let's just hope it does. Inform me once you receive it, pls. Regards from Singapore. =)
john - 11/16/99 09:14:28
My Email:Johnmessen@hotmail.com
Age: 17
Comments:
I've been left with these two depression dint kind of things as a result of two cortizone injections. Has anyone had the same problem ?
If so do they ever go away ? how long ?
I'm begining to think they're going to be with me for life so If anyone can give me some hope please do. Good luck everyone
To Ally continued: - 11/16/99 07:36:45
Comments:
and/or to regulate aldosterone hormone, Best to you.
To Ally: - 11/16/99 06:59:48
Comments:
Potassium-sparing Diuretics - oral
Drug
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Generic names (Common brand names)
Uses
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Generic names (Common brand names):
amiloride (Midamor, Amikal, Amilospare, Arumil, Modamide, Nirulid, Pandiuren)
spironolactone (Aldactone, Adultmin, Aldopur, Aldospirone, Almatol, Berlactone, Diatensec, Diram, Esekon, Hypazon, Idrolattone, Merabis, Novospiroton, Osiren, Osyrol, Pirolacton, Resacton, Sincomen, Spiractin, Spiroctan, Spirolacton, Spirolang, Spironex,
pirotone, Tevaspirone, Verospiron, Xenalon Lactabs, Youlactone)
triamterene (Dyrenium, Amterene, Diarrol, Diuteren, Dytac, Jatropur, Reviten, Suloton, Triamteril, Trian, Urocaudal)
Ally: I can only conjecture that it may have been perscribed for edema. This is a new one on me (unless you need a diuretic). Best to you.
Dan - 11/16/99 06:36:07
My Email:tee2green24@yahoo.com
Gender: male
Age: 24
Comments:
sorry, had to correct my email address.
Dan - 11/16/99 06:33:40
My Email:tee2green24
Gender: male
Age: 24
Comments:
greg........ i'm in the same boat you are. i'm just starting out (actually only my 3rd day). my doc says he has to start me at 40 mg/day for about 2 weeks to see how i handle it, then he'll bump it up to 80 mg/day. maybe your doc is doing the same. a
so, i'm into the iron game as well. no way i'm gonna stop working out for 5 or 6 months while i'm on this stuff. doc says if i get joint pain to take off a day or two, which i can handle. maybe that advice would be good for you too. keep me up to date
on how things are going...... i'll do the same. hopefully we'll both have success in getting rid of this junk.
D
- 11/16/99 06:33:38
Comments:
Okay, I'll be a friendly witness...but you'll owe me an answer.
Ally - 11/16/99 06:30:45
Gender: female
Age: 20
Comments:
Hi guys.. I haven't visited this site for a while and thought I let you know my progress with RoA. As someone previously mentioned (sorry cant remember who!) RoA is not a cure and often relapses occur. Unfortunately this happened to me and I took a 2nd
month course of RoA (40mg/ 60mg per day) I have been off the drug for around 3 months and so far everything seems to be ok. My derm prescribed a 'maintenance' drug called Spiractin. This is something alot less harsh than RoA, but helps to prevent relap
es. I might have to take this for a while but I would rather get off the medication all together. Nevertheless I am really scared about another possible relapse so I am trying to be careful (although its hard to be strict and only use oilfree stuff when
my skin looks so good) Has anyone out there used the medication Spiractin, had any experiences with multiple relapses, or know of some good ways to prevent relapse?
Thanx everyone and good luck
..Ally (another chick from 'downunder')
Britney was for.... - 11/16/99 06:28:43
Comments:
..Britney was for the "shock value", I still like her music. Can I count on you as a friendly witness tomorrow in court?. Best to you (and..what a name!)
Steve - 11/16/99 06:23:40
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
Sorry, I didn't mean to post twice.
Steve - 11/16/99 06:22:07
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
Hi, I hope everyone is doing well. As soon as my health insurance kicks in I will be filling my prescription for accutane. My heart goes out to everyone who has to suffer from this disease. I'll be back to tell everyone how my treatment is going.
Steve - 11/16/99 06:21:49
My Email:sackerma@erols.com
Gender: male
Age: 26
Comments:
Hi, I hope everyone is doing well. As soon as my health insurance kicks in I will be filling my prescription for accutane. My heart goes out to everyone who has to suffer from this disease. I'll be back to tell everyone how my treatment is going.
To: HGPig - 11/16/99 06:21:48
Comments:
Awww, c'mon....I'm harmless *sly smile*. Don't like Britney Spears at all.
To: Amae~~~~~~ - 11/16/99 06:18:04
Comments:
The "curious" ones and the quiet ones, always get me in trouble. Yes, I'm here. Best to you (glad you liked the Britney Spears one).
Randy's back - 11/16/99 06:17:09
Comments:
Its funny you know><><><>
- 11/16/99 06:12:00
Comments:
Let's not rub it in the Aussie's face that US kicks some *ss!
- 11/16/99 06:10:25
Comments:
Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi, Tiger Woods, Lindsey Davenport (just defeated Hingus this weekend), David Duval (I think he's just behind Tiger currently), NBA, NFL, but not cricket and badminton. Oh, and I'll give you soccer.
Amae - 11/16/99 06:07:52
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
****TO HGPig/MY**** You make me blush and laugh at the same time. Your posts are both clever and informative. Thanks again for replying to my questions (I am an info maniac, especially with scrips). I know the rules say e-mail directly, but you never l
ave yours. I have a few more questions for you- how old are you? ~!## SETTLE DOWN, BOARD- I am not hitting on HGPig/MY, just curious ##!~ From your "experiments" you sound a bit older than me, yet you mentioned Britney Spears and "whoofed" in your "tr
al". Sorry if you have said it before- I didn't feel like weeding through the archives. You also sound like you are from the States...? Anyways, I have one more question about Accutane (FOR EVERYONE). Does it cause any birth defects after an extended
eriod of time off it? Say, after 5 or 6 years? Thanks all, keep posting HGPig. ~Amae
- 11/16/99 06:06:21
Comments:
what can be done about hormonal acne, will accutane help?
We Have the Ryder AND>>>> - 11/16/99 05:58:38
Comments:
We have the Ryder, the no. one ranked tennis player in the world mens, no. one womens, no. 1 baseball and Olympic Gold Basketball teams in the world, no. 1 ranked golfer PGA rankings in the world, amd the no.1 per capita income in the world. We'll give yo
badminton and cricket though.
To:Yangas - 11/16/99 05:32:06 - 11/16/99 05:52:29
Comments:
Yangas - 11/16/99 05:32:06
My Email:bulls_43@hotmail.com, : Be VERY patient. 11 weeks or even a year, is very little compared to a lifetime. Put a good quality sunscreen over the marks, then hide the marks with Calamine lotion (white, or vitamin E cream that matches your complexion
. Another trick for males, is to grow a beard for about 4-8 weeks while on accutane, this will help marks to fade by their not being exposed to light and shaver abuse. If you then shave, use a microscreen electric shaver. There are certain vitamin E crea
s that are shaded to various complexions, but I like Calamine for it's "flat" white skin appearance, plus it stays in all day and is dry. Best to you.
GW - 11/16/99 05:47:27
Gender: male
Age: 17
Comments:
For the record.....I've never even seen a Kangaroo in my life..........except for when it passed my lips on a fork one time***************and so we may see that Australia beats the US in almost every sport known to man.
Yangas - 11/16/99 05:32:06
My Email:bulls_43@hotmail.com
Age: 17
Comments:
HI i have been on accutane for for like 11 weeks now at 80 mg a day. Most of my pimples and cysts have disapperaed but the problem is the red marks after it leaves. It s really distressing i guess it will disapppear after a couple of months or yrs can any
ne that has the same problem email me , actually anyone who wants to talk about acne email me plz, and has anyone turned really pale somedays on accutane??? email me
Yangas - 11/16/99 05:32:05
My Email:bulls_43@hotmail.com
Age: 17
Comments:
HI i have been on accutane for for like 11 weeks now at 80 mg a day. Most of my pimples and cysts have disapperaed but the problem is the red marks after it leaves. It s really distressing i guess it will disapppear after a couple of months or yrs can any
ne that has the same problem email me , actually anyone who wants to talk about acne email me plz, and has anyone turned really pale somedays on accutane??? email me
Talia - 11/16/99 03:02:03
My Email:ctsotsis@chubb.com
Gender: female
Age: 23
Comments:
BE very very careful whislt on this medication, if you get a pimple or cyst, be extremely careful in treating it...if you squeeze it fkor some unknown reason it will scar immediately... believe me I should know. The skin is sooo sensitive so please refrai
in squeezing even if it's the ugliest white head just don't risk it.
Yes Allison I do - 11/16/99 02:20:51
Comments:
Allison, I wear contacts (soft lenses), and I believe I may have replied to you before. It is essential that you never wear your contacts in the shower when on accutane. The moisture will evaporate, and the contacts will adhere, and make removal difficult
Some ideas, 1dosage intake, if Important>>>RINSE your contacts frequently (maybe every hour or opportunity) 2. Never wear your lenses at sleep or overnight. 3. Get plenty of sleep and 4. Drink plenty of water. 5. Some say lense lubricant can help too. Bu
still rinse often.(one further option is to look at some "designer" glasses, such as the photo-gray lense glasses, which can be perceived as "cool" looking and are currently fashionable). Best to you.
Shawn, one more.... - 11/16/99 02:09:45
Comments:
Although not directly related to your question on more follow up exerpt...."Triglycerides, the major P acnes nutrient, make up 50% of sebaceous lipid. As triglyceride levels rise, so do P acnes populations. Less certain is the role of androgens in determi
ing acne severity. A body of recent research has refocused on variations in androgen metabolism on the expression of acne. Lucky et al7 studied androgen levels in premenarchal girls in an attempt to define predictors of acne severity and to identify indiv
duals at risk. They found that the early onset (<10 years of age) of inflammatory acne was predictive of more severe disease later. The presence of visible comedones was indicative of early menarche and higher dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate levels as well
In fact, clinical disease began before menarche in patients with severe acne. Thus, adrenal maturation alone is a sufficient stimulus for sebum production in patients destined to develop severe acne. It is tempting to speculate that dehydroepiandrosteron
sulfate triggers comedogenesis, but Lucky and colleagues' study does not address the possibility of preformed microcomedones. In this situation, microcomedones ,,," This is more related to ACNE ENDOCRINOLOGY. Best to you
Allison - 11/16/99 02:01:13
Gender: female
Age: 16
Comments:
Is anyone here that is on accutane wear contacts?? I wear contacts and accutane makes my eyes so dry that wearing contacts makes it extremely painful. There is no way i will wear glasses to school. Is there anything i can do?!?!?
Peter Hawkes - 11/16/99 01:56:48
My Email:Petehawkes@freeuk.com
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Comments:
Can anyone tell me where I can get Roaccutane from without a prescription. I had severe acne due to anabolic steroid use but just finished a 16 week course at 50mg per day.I am now totally clear but if it comes back due to steroid use how much should I ta
e to prevent that and can I get any from the net without a script???
To Shawn..continued - 11/16/99 01:50:58
Comments:
Some further confirmation that alcohol will elevate trigylceride levelsin blood plazma...from JAMA exerpt..(although I realize were here for dermatology and not HTG)"
Effect of Moderate Alcohol Consumption on Hypertriglyceridemia
A Study in the Fasting State
Henry J. Pownall, PhD; Christie M. Ballantyne, MD; Kay T. Kimball, PhD; Suzanne L. Simpson; Daniel Yeshurun, MD; Antonio M. Gotto, Jr, MD, DPhil
Background Patients with hypertriglyceridemia (HTG) are generally advised to avoid alcohol, even though moderate alcohol consumption is cardioprotective. Alcohol increases plasma triglyceride concentration transiently in normolipidemic subjects, but whet
er alcohol consumption per se increases triglyceride concentrations in patients with HTG is unclear.
Objective To assess whether baseline fasting triglyceride concentration determines plasma triglyceride concentration after acute oral alcohol intake.
Methods Twelve persons with fasting triglyceride concentrations of 2.3 to 8.5 mmol/L (200-750 mg/dL) and 12 persons as a non-HTG group were enrolled. Obesity, current smoking, and history of hypertension, diabetes, or excessive alcohol use were exclusion
ry. Fasted subjects consumed 38 mL of ethanol in water (equivalent, 2 alcoholic drinks); blood samples were collected at baseline and at intervals thereafter for 10 hours. No less than 1 week later, the subjects consumed water alone in a control test.
Results Mean triglyceride values were 4.040.41 mmol/L (35836.9 mg/dL) and 1.000.11 mmol/L (8910.2 mg/dL) for the HTG and non-HTG groups, respectively. Despite similar changes with alcohol feeding in plasma ethanol, nonesterified fatty acid, and acetate c
ncentrations, the groups differed in triglyceride response. At 6 hours (peak) compared with baseline, triglyceride concentration increased only 3% in the HTG group but 53% in the non-HTG group. The former change was not significantly different from the ef
ect with water alone (-9.2% from baseline; P=.43), whereas the latter was (-8.0%; P=.003). BEST TO YOU.
Kathy - 11/16/99 01:39:52
Gender: female
Comments:
Margaret....are you still around? I'm not seeing too many "old-timers" posting here. Pam and Rianne are obviously still around and hello to both. Margaret, if you are reading, how is the skin-bio working for you? If you see this, I'd appreciate hearin
the latest on your treatment with those products! Hopefully, it's all good. Good luck to everyone!
To: Shawn continued from directly below: - 11/16/99 00:01:14
Comments:
From Mayo Clinic rec....:"To Shawn: - 11/15/99 23:37:24Recent research, though, suggests that elevated triglycerides may contribute to coronary artery disease and that you should maintain a level at least below 200 mg/dl and perhaps below 100 mg/dl.
If you're worried about your triglycerides, there's no harm — and many benefits — in reducing your level. Recommendations for people with high triglycerides often include exercising regularly, maintaining a healthy weight and limiting sugar, alcohol and d
etary fat. Medication is occasionally recommended if lifestyle changes aren't effective.
To Shawn: - 11/15/99 23:37:24
Comments:
Great that things are going well. "Liver function tests. Occasionally, isotretinoin may disturb liver function; this requires monitoring but if the reaction is mild the drug can usually be continued. Rarely, it causes a symptomatic hepatitis - the drug mu
t then be discontinued. Do not drink more than minimal alcohol while taking isotretinoin, as alcohol also affects the liver."NZDS.
Shawn - 11/15/99 23:08:37
My Email:sbrooks@portare.com
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Comments:
Day 20 of Accutane treatment -- All's well. Skin still dry, lips still cracked. I was a little on the weasy side yesterday so I'm sort of out of it today. Everything seems ok. I go in for my blood tests this Friday to see how things are going. And I
ave to know -- alcohol raises your triglycerides? I have maybe a beer or a glass of wine in the evenings. Is this going to make my tests come back high? Hope not. Anyway, mood is a bit edgy on account that my entire weekend was pretty lame. But still
ood. The blemishes seem to be drying up -- still no surface oil. At all! And no new ones, at least for right now. So, I'm in week 3 and it appears that people seem to get this big breakout around week 8. Is that the norm? Well, I hope mine is over w
th. Oh, and appetite is still low. Mental clarity doesn't seem to be as sharp as normal.....anyone have a suggestion for this? Well, I'm off -- chao!
Bob Topps - 11/15/99 22:41:52
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Rianne: Thank ye for the info re: Minocin MR. I am currently on minocycline (generic stuff) at 50mg. Its more of a REGULATORY measure now that I have been off ACCUTANE for over a year..
WELL I guess I am a Tom Cruise look-alike if TOM CRUISE had deep pittted acne scars all over his face and consistent break outs on his face.
Doe sanyone know if PHOTOSENSITIVITY includes flourescnet lights (like the ones in Bradlees stores??) just wondering..
good luck!
To: Greg - 11/15/99 21:40:32 - 11/15/99 21:53:02
Comments:
Greg, yes, accutane is the right path. Your derm. sounds too conservative, possibly even selfish fearful you might retaliate (legally) due to any quote "side-effects." One month is too short, unless you have a pre-condition that warrants this duration. S
metimes however, with mild lesions, 40 mg will do it. Joint "aches" is another overrated side effect. All it is is shear scare tactics by a buch of wimps. I lift weights, and compete at the highest levels of my sport and NO PROBLEM. As long as you keep an
active life-style you'll be fine (do some low impact cycling to). Actually the worst thing is NOT to exersize. Ask anyone recovering from a back injury, a quality physical therapist will prescribe activity!! Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. I've t
ken Accutane for years, continously, and at all dosages. Best to you.
To: - 11/15/99 16:43:38 3 months - 11/15/99 21:41:58
Comments:
3 months poster, hang tough, refuse to compromise! Every human has "scars" of one kind or another. That's why, whether one denys it or not, there is grace. The accutane will "flatten" the former nodules. Try using SPF50 Banana Boat with titanium dioxide
ver these areas. The white of this lotion stays on, and will help fading by sun protection. Also, check to try Azelex 20% cream, which acts as a bleaching agent. Even calamine lotion (only about a buck at any pharmacy) is a great cover as your fading wit
Azelex. Best to you. CAN DO!!!
Greg - 11/15/99 21:40:32
My Email:Gregthebody@aol.com
Age: 29
Comments:
I've been fighting cystsic acne for some 10 yrs. now. My derm put me on every type of anti-biotic known to man. The best they would do is make the condition less severe,but after a while they would seem to lose their effect and I would break out worse tha
before. To him my condition wasnt that bad but I cant even stand to look at myself in a mirror. My skin has even seemed to become more oily over the years which I cant understand. Well finally this week my dernm prescribed accutane for me. I'm both excit
d and nervous. I really hope it works as this seems to be the final alternative to this pain in the ass problem. I just have a few questions if anybody could take the time to reply to them.
1. he only prescribed 40 mg. once a day for a month. That seems a little short to me. I thought the average cycle was 3 months at 2 pills a day. Like I said before he doesnt think my skin was that bad,but he hasnt seen it at its worse.
2. I work out with weights at least 3 times a week. Is it ok to workout while on accutane/ I heard it can cause bad joint problems.
3. I like my beer too. Is it ok to throw a few down on the weekends or should I just wait untill I'm done the cycle.
Thanks to any responses and good luck to all. I know what your going through!
To: silena - 11/15/99 21:33:35
Comments:
I'm not denying anything, never have. When you contact another party by e-mail, the first party is automatically registered with the second. That's my meaning. Best to you.
To the Complete Fool! - 11/15/99 21:31:24
Comments:
To the complete fool who critisized the "waterfall". Get a life, sometimes parody uplifts the spirits of even a few here. Your boring and a bully.
ALL RISE - 11/15/99 21:18:08
Comments:
~~~~~MURMUR~~~~MURmur~~~~MUrmur~~~~Murmur~~~~murmur~~~"All rise please", "for your Honor, case no.1HGPig234077, People vs. HGPig this here-in date there of November 1999~~~" "Hey you over there, at the computer monitor, rise for the Honorable Judge." "tha
k you"..."you all may be seated". gavel....bang....bang.....bang,,,"quiet please, case no. 1HGPig234077 will proceed".."Counselor you may call your first witness", "Your Honor the defense calls Amae to the stand" "Amae, do you swear to tell the whole trut
, and nothing but the truth"..."I do".."very well, your quite a lady"...."objection!" "defense shall not try to sweet talk the witness", "objection overruled, this witness is quite gracious and kind"..."defense may proceed"..."Amae, do you not have one of
the most stunning and beautiful names at this web site, that HGPig likes?".."I do not know this, although I called HGPig "strange" you'll need to ask HGPig" ..."very well then"..."witness may step down"......"BANG~~~~Bang~~~bang"...."order in this court"
I will have order in this court" "You in the back, with the Kangaroos" "Sit down", "Is that GW with all those kangaroos?"~~~"I will not have this solemn moment become a kangaroo court here!"..."baliff, escort that kangaroo with the bow-tie out of my court
oom at this minute!" "whof!,,whof!....whoof!...whoof!, States!States!States!States!~~~"quiet you All-American boyz" "That goes for you too".."Oh maybe not, you did bring home the Ryder Cup over them Oxford boys.".."whof""whof""whof"...."order!order!order!
that goes for the guy holding up that Shamrock too" "Viva-La-France!", "Viva-La-France!"..bang ...bang ....bang..."enough of this, I declare!.."down in old Mehhhhhicccco I da..da...da"! "I say that's enough!. "Baliff, escort that Eskimo in the back of th
courtroom out also".."what's that weeping I hear?"..Well ok you can stay Eskimo, along with those Ryder Cup boys and Britney Spears".."Baliff, keep your eyes open for anymore kangaroos."....."Defense proceed."~~~"defense calls HGPig to the stand", "HGPig
you have been sworn in, along with all 12 pigletts, a jury of your peers".."Are you aware of your rights?".."Yes, as yesterday, I am your Honor".."very well, the defense may proceed." "HG, is it true that Amae responded once to your posts, stating that "Y
u are the best" in answering her questions?".."yes, I believe that's true, but I may have to check back to be sure".."very well"..."No further questions at this time your Honor, .".."very well", the defense calls Tom Cruise look alike, Bob alias "Muggsie"
Tops, to the stand next."...~~~~bang~~~~bang~~~bang~~~"I see by the clock, that it is time for court to recess".."court is adjourned until tomorrow at this time"
sara - 11/15/99 18:14:03
Gender: grrrl
Age: 21
Comments:
the sun will make the red marks stick around longer... use spf50! good luck
Lisa - 11/15/99 18:10:56
Gender: Female
Comments:
To MY: I haven't been to the board since Friday. I'm the one who asked if your "government" went by the name of "narcotics agent". I'm fascinated to find out that your posts were so cryptic. I had no idea. Of course I never gave it that much thought,
but I must say that I'm impressed. Perhaps you should become a screenplay writer. Best of luck with your acne treatment, whatever the hell it is (maybe someone can figure that one out?).
Cip - 11/15/99 17:52:15
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Comments:
Bev-Your message was very encouraging. I'm getting married in July and have dreaded the thought of a face full of acne on my wedding day. It's about 6 weeks and truthfully, I don't see much improvement at all, but hopefully it's still too early to tell. I
know everyone reacts differently to accutane. I'm on 60 mg and maybe it's just not a high enough dose. I'll talk to my doctor about it next week. It's just that with higher doses, more side effects.
rachel - 11/15/99 17:47:30
My Email:rach24116@aol.com
Gender: female
Age: 18
Comments:
I started taking accutane 10 days ago. i weigh about 115lbs. They only put me on 40 mg a day. I haven't experienced any side effects what so ever does this mean it isn't wokring and isn't strong ebough of a dosage?
Brooks - 11/15/99 17:36:25
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
Hi it's me Brooks...Day 3..I think I'm starting to have the dry lips.....I'm just hoping that when I see the doctor in three weeks that the blood test are normal! The last time they were not and that's why I had to get off the Accutane. Has anyone else ha
abnormal blood test results???? Please I wanna hear from other people my age so we can talk about are side effects together! I only started on Friday......good luck everyone...and remember is not how we look outside in what's inside!:)
Rianne - 11/15/99 17:32:08
Gender: Female
Age: 34
Comments:
For Bob who asked about the Minocin MR antibiotics. Basically they are slow release antibiotics - the MR stands for Modified Release. I suppose this is to get so much of the medicine into your system throughout the day. That's the theory anyway!!
My skin seems to be settling down a bit now. I won't hold my breath though - it's never permanently good!! The oil absorbing "papers" seem to be really helping a lot - they literally just sweep all the oil from your skin! I could definitely recommend t
em if your skin is ultra-oily. Plus they don't cause any irritation or redness.
As for the DermaLux lamp - well, I've lost a lot of faith in that. I thought it may be the answer for me - but NO. I guess it was too good to be true!
As always lots of love and luck to you all! Rianne.
- 11/15/99 16:43:38
Comments:
3 months have passed now at 80mgs and I have decided that enough is enough. I cant cope anymore. Even if it had worked I would not have been happy. My face is so badly scarred.
I was depressed before but now I want to die
it makes sense
Silena - 11/15/99 14:35:22
My Email:silena100@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
To HGPIG: Do you deny that you have been here and posting? You have been here, and you have seen my requests for you to contact me. Do you deny this??? Also, never once did I ask for your email address, let alone ask you to post it on this board. I ask
d if YOU would contact ME, and I left my email address each time. Do you deny this? If you didn't want to email me, the polite thing for you to have done was to post a message to me saying, "Saw your post, but I don't want to contact you." Be nice next
time, for Pete's sake.
fatima - 11/15/99 14:20:32
My Email:djfunkyd@hotmail.co.za
Gender: female
Age: 15
Comments:
I would like to know if roaccutane causes the inflamation of the anus.If so is there any medication i can use to take the swelling away.
As i am currently on my forth month.
PLEASE reply as soon as possible.
many thanx.
- 11/15/99 11:54:21
My URL:http://www.boston.org/album3.html
Comments:
Here's a link if you're really interested.
Have fun and nighty night.
- 11/15/99 11:48:52
Age: Male
Comments:
Just on the drinking thing......this is just a hunch but I think if you maintain a little respect for your body and not push it to the red line to "see how much it can handle", it won't go unappreciated. Check out "Cool the Engines" by Boston.
Bev - 11/15/99 11:04:40
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Comments:
Hi everybody. I have been on Roa for about 5 months now and am very pleased with the results. I was also very sceptical at the start of my treatment and must now admit that I am pleasantly suprised. I also battled with lots of uncertainty regarding the si
e effects but I managed to get through it non the less . I have had dry lips, sore eyes, nose bleeds and muscle pains , but I have become so used to it, that it really doesn't bother me anymore . The reason I am actually writing to you is because I am get
ing married on Saterday and had to tell you how happy I am that I don't have breakouts anymore. I offer encouragement to all who are sceptical and can from my own experience say that Roa has worked for me .
- 11/15/99 11:01:02
Comments:
I think that there are a lot of idiots on this site
you are in no way helpful
seriously what is this waterfall crap all about
grow up and get a life
why cant acne strike somebody horribly badly whenever they are as big an idiot as you
J - 11/15/99 10:46:43
Gender: male
Age: 20
Comments:
hey becky, i don't know what the big problem is, you can still drink while on accutane, it just makes your liver work extra hard. It has no effect on the drug or its mechanism. I drink all the time while on the drug and i take 100 mg/day. If you want t
drink on the weekends, my suggestion would be to take it slow and see how much you body can handle. After a month, you'll either know if your body can handle it or not when you get your liver function aspect of your blood test. If its too high you migh
have to cut back on the drinking, but if its low then you should be fine. If your used to drinking a lot before accutane, then you should be fine.
becky - 11/15/99 10:29:43
Age: 19
Comments:
to whoever replied to my last posting - thanx for making me see sense. Your message has really highlighted to me what a total idiot Im being. Im not sure whether to continue taking the accutane since its really impacting upon the other key aspects of my
life. I really dont know what to do. On the one hand, I absolutely hate my skin playing up, but I only have mild to moderate acne anyway, and really really want to get rid of it, hence why Im taking these awful things, but on the other clubbing and soci
lising at uni, in which people are always drunk and theres so many occasions where I pay a fortune to go to a dinner for free wine, but then cant drink any of it, are such important aspects of my life that I really am very confused over what to do. I kno
that Its only for a few months but i really cant stress enough how much of a release clubbing has always been for me. Plus Im going up to gatecrasher on new years eve, and its cost me a fortune, but if im still on the roaccutane I cant drink or anything
Please, to evryone reading, i hope this doesnt sound stupid, its just that the two major areas in my life are conflicting because of these tablets and I really dont know what to do. At the moment im still taking them and havent drunk for a couple of we
ks and really am trying my best not to. Please please please dont be angry with me, \or annoyed, or question why I even went on roaccutane in the first place. Im so confused.
Brad Lee - 11/15/99 10:00:49
My Email:braddh@hotmail.com
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
Dear Forum, my depression seems to be taking hold. Im a bit depressed, but nothing to what I have read in these posts. I just feel down today, and I have been feeling unhappy on and off the past few days. I only seem to get depressed when I have time to m
self. I think I will just have to like go out heaps because I been told, Week 5 -7 is when it really kicks in, then it slowly subsides. It isnt a major concern YET, but if it gets worse, I may lower my does. I'm on 60 mg a day, which is heaps because I'm
nly 80 kg. Anyone willing to share their experiences it would be greatly appreciated because I think it is because of the medication. Anyway, I thank all of you guys for listening. Life is looking great and my face is getting great to, thats why i think I
might battle through
all the best
Brad
AkashA - 11/15/99 09:42:18
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Comments:
Hi i need HELP!
Well, firstly i have been sorta groping around in the dark about this Stupid acne stuff, and i thought i would get some help. It never occured to me to use the net to search for help before!
Anyway, my problem isn't that severe, in fact its controllable (at least thats what the derm said) but it really breaks out from time to time!!!
Oh and about Cetaphil(from earlier messages) my Dermatologist said it was baaaad coz its not suitable for oily skins, only when the skin prob is stabilised, (eg. no more acne) then you should use it. Its mild and not very strong enough to wipe out zits.
OK here is the problem. I have been prescribed tretinoin (at night) and clinidalym (2x a day). They made my face TOTALLY red and i mean TOTALLY red, like i just drank beer or something.
So i stopped both completely, and now i am very worried coz i am really scared the breakout will appear... but then again i couldn't take my friends' so called 'innocent' questions as to why it was so red!!! I tried to lessen the dosage, eg every alternat
days, but it dries my skin and sorta Burns the whole layer... Urgh... anyone please help? and ps: i find Neutrogena facial Foam extremely good. Try it for a month. it will help more or less coz it drys the skin.
To Thea: - 11/15/99 08:38:38
Comments:
Hope Christian follows-through with the free 60 accutane capsules for you. Best to you. (you can confirm if this was an honest offer with us later here, ok?) Best to you.
Meant "To Thea" - 11/15/99 08:29:38
Comments:
Thea - 11/15/99 08:29:06
Comments:
OOOOOOH Thea....do tell! Sounds scandalous!! :)
To: MY aka HGPig - 11/15/99 08:26:15
My Email:amae7@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
I am the anon who said you are speaking metaphorically (and the one right after that). I posted anon cause I didn't want to get in the middle of it, but now you feel as if you are on trial. Don't take this the wrong way, but you are a little strange- wh
ch can sometimes be a good thing. Good luck with the "experiment".
~Amae
Thea - 11/15/99 08:22:33
My Email:rezgirl0@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 21
Comments:
Christian: Hi, I did email you yesterday I think and I was just wondering if you got it. Please don't reconsider! I am checking my email account every day now, to see if you will reply. I'll be waiting to hear from you.....Thank you.
to: "to all" - 11/15/99 07:15:33
Comments:
What about amphetamines ie. speed ?
To Wallace: - 11/15/99 07:15:16
Comments:
It's really an intrinsic question, here's a reprint that may help...."Isotretinoin
Slow responders
Some patients with acne respond unexpectedly slowly and incompletely to isotretinoin. The reasons are thought to be:
Large comedones ("macrocomedones")
Nodules
Secondary infection with Staphylococcus aureus
Unknown factors
Options available to slow responders include:
Cautery or diathermy of comedones
Prolonged course of isotretinoin
Additional treatment with oral antibiotics
Treatment of relapses
At least fifty per cent of patients with acne are lucky enough to have a permanent cure after a single course of isotretinoin. Unfortunately, in some patients, acne recurs few months to a few years after the medication has been discontinued.
If indicated, these patients may receive one or more further courses of isotretinoin. This may be at a similar dose and duration as before, or it may differ from previously.
A small number of people with particularly troublesome skin conditions require long term treatment with isotretinoin. With the exception of patients with skin cancers due to immunosuppressive medications eg organ transplant patients (who required 0.5 to 1
g/kg/day), generally only a small dose is required, such as 20 mg twice weekly. Another regime is to take 0.5 -1 mg/kg/day for one week out of every four weeks for a minimum of six monthly cycles. These regimes may be used for patients with:
Persistent acne (all types)
Severe seborrhoea
Rosacea
Scalp folliculitis
Besides the worry about pregnancy in treated women, the main concern with long term treatment is that isotretinoin may have effects on the bones. Diffuse interstitial skeletal hyperostosis ("DISH"), a normal and common ageing process may be accelerated in
those taking excessive doses of isotretinoin for long periods. The result can be seen on X-rays of the affected bones and includes spurs on the heel, knee, and spine. DISH may result in aching discomfort, which does not necessarily resolve when isotretino
n is discontinued." Best to You.
To: All - 11/15/99 07:08:01
Comments:
Accutane:Possible Interaction with Other Substances
INTERACTS WITH COMBINED EFFECT
--------------- ---------------
Alcohol: Significant increase in
triglycerides in blood. Avoid.
Beverages: No problems expected.
Cocaine: Increased chance of toxicity of
isotretinoin. Avoid.
Foods: No problems expected.
Marijuana: Increased chance of toxicity of
isotretinoin. Avoid.
Tobacco: May decrease absorption of
medicine. Avoid tobacco while in
treatment.
wallace - 11/15/99 06:23:58
Age: 18
Comments:
does ROACCUTANE takes a longer time to cure my acne if i took 20mg/per day???????? anyone can help me???????????
To Allison: - 11/15/99 03:47:06
Comments:
Approximately 2 in 5 patients on Accutane may develop conjunctivitis. You may have inflamed lids....see as follows (edited re-print)>>>>
Conjunctivitis
Red, watery eyes, inflamed inner lids, blurred vision and a sandy or scratchy feeling in the eyes may indicate that you have conjunctivitis. Pus-like or watery discharge around the eyelids may indicate an infectious form of the disease, commonly known as
pink eye."
What is conjunctivitis?
Conjunctivitis is an inflammation of the conjunctiva, a thin, transparent layer covering the surface of the inner eyelid and the front of the eye. It affects people of all ages.
What causes conjunctivitis?
The three main types of conjunctivitis are infectious, allergic and chemical. The infectious form, commonly known as "pink eye," is caused by and chlorine in swimming pools may produce the chemical form.
Keep your hands away from your eyes;
Thoughly wash hands before and after applying eye medications;
Seek treatment promptly. Best to you.
To Rob: - 11/15/99 03:37:17
Comments:
A razor shave may DEFINITELY be the problem. I recommend a Microscreen electric shaver, such as Remington. Try a mircoscreen shaver. Best to you.
Pam - 11/15/99 03:13:14
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
Rianne...I noticed the same thing about the guestbook and thought it was weird...then I realised all the postings for October and the beginning of November had been removed to the archives...and labelled with a warning...'this archive material has not bee
censored'!!!
Rob - 11/15/99 02:58:59
Comments:
I AM in week eight and my skin seems to be taking a turn for the worst. It is relly pink and sore, I had a razor shave last night and this could be half the problem (I normally use elettric). Does anyone have suggestions on reducing the redness? TO: HGP/M
/WHOEVER, Your posts are unusual, entertaing and informative but all round WEIRD although I found "MY" rather amusing.
Allison - 11/15/99 02:51:40
Gender: female
Age: 16
Comments:
Ok, i have a question, ive been taking accutane for 4 days and my eyelids are so swollen and they hurt really bad. Has this happened to anyone else??
Pigs can fuck themselves - 11/15/99 02:46:28
Comments:
Then fly ove here and you can borrow my hose for free. Oh............. but you wouldn't want to come to back of beyond its too cold dark and desolate, right?
TO: Igno politician below and again beneath - 11/15/99 02:26:16
Comments:
Once again your great literacy and command of pigo-latino-politico will be savoured by all. Don't you know pigs can fly?
Politician extraordinare - 11/15/99 02:14:03
Comments:
The Three arms of government.....
PARLIAMENT enacts a law to prohibit pigs from discussing on the internet, the reasoning is that they are dirty and only humerous under a fake name.************************************************************
EXECUTIVE.......a police officer arrests the Poofy Pig for referring to the most successful nation in the world as "Back of Beyond."*************************************************
JUDICIARY renders the Poofy Pig's internet comments useless as shit and the Judge places an injunction ordering him to fuck himself with a backyard garden hose.
To: becky - 11/15/99 00:15:35 - 11/15/99 00:49:22
Comments:
Becky, WAKE UP girl! Your acting like a complete fool. Your idiotic behavior, and self-abusive diet admission is one BIG negative. It's people like you, rave on the weekend, are you a drinker too??, and abusive diet, that takes advantage of the insurance
ompanies, drives up everybody elses premiums, and causes critic of the accutane program. Get off it, no wonder your depressed. Quit the partying, boozing, raving, excess sexaholicisms. Who's paying for this hospital visit? Get some healthy food into your
ystem, veggies, cheeses, low fat /no fat milk, regular sleep. Get some real exersize, low impact running, swimming, team volleyball, team coed basketball, aerobics. These can all be done and offer plenty of socializing. Take a tennis lesson from a sexy
tennis or golf professional. Change will do it. Best to you.
Yes: For "wrinkles" - 11/15/99 00:35:21
Comments:
To:>>>- 11/15/99 00:02:16
My Email:sade529@aol.com::Answer, yes in certain situations for wrinkles but should be monitored the same. Best to you.
- 11/15/99 00:21:21
Comments:
Becky - roaccutane takes about a month to get out of your body, so drinking is not a good idea. Skipping it for a week will not cuse you any harm or make you break out more or something. It is however wise to continue with your course. I'm pretty sure
hat you can have fun without drinking.
becky - 11/15/99 00:15:35
Gender: female
Comments:
Im on my sixth week now and my skin seems to be breaking out quite a bit - ive got several large white heads and some painful lumps which seem to be taking a while to go away. My skin is also incrediably dry and my lips look a state. Im starting to feel
ery depressed. Im also very concerned as I never had any blood tests before starting the course and I dont exactly eat the healthiest of diets. Im off to the local hosiptal ASAP to get it sorted. Im feeling really tired and lost interest in going out an
doing anything including uni work. But Ive got a big night out on friday to a rave and I want to stop taking the roaccutane for a few days in case I drink or anything. How long will it take for the accutane to get out of my system? would taking a reak f
r a week make me really break out or have other bad effects. I know I should continue with the course but Im really looking forward to friday, but Im scared to death that I might have something which reacts with the roaccutane and kills me or something.
I understand that I must sound Like Im asking for trouble but i really am looking forward to this night out. Any replies would be gratefully received.
Bob Topps - 11/15/99 00:14:21
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
hiya,
YES Accutane is used for other purpouses besides ACNE. Its also used as an anti-cancer drug, particularly luekimia.
AGAIN does anyone know the difference (if there even is one...) of MICOCIN MR and plain ol generic stuff?
thankye
goodluck
- 11/15/99 00:02:16
My Email:sade529@aol.com
Comments:
Can Accutane be used for anything besides acne? My mother's doctor prescribed Accutane for her, but it's not for acne and she's skeptical. Does anyone know anything about this?
To: Allison and William - 11/14/99 22:54:13
Comments:
Allison - 11/14/99 19:59:28
Gender: female
Age: 16: First be sure you have plenty of sleep. If you do wear contacts be sure to rinse them very frequently, even the extended wear lenses. Never shower with them in. Place a full drop of solution on each lense before insertion. When at home, wear your
glasses.
William - 11/14/99 19:14:16
Gender: Male
Age: 18: I'm almost sure your on too small a dosage. One 40mg per day may not be enough. Ask your practitioner to increase to 40x2 mg per 24hrs. If you mean't you are already on this amount, then there are "tactics" you can use to enhance absorption, suc
as taking 2 pills at the same time with a small meal. This increases the isotretinoin ratio in the blood stream. Best to you all.
Bob Topps - 11/14/99 21:52:19
My URL:http://www.pizzaface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Yes ACCUtane gives many hope during the first moth or so. It did for me as well. Just remember the acne is persistent so it will never be TOTALLY gone for good just REGULATED.. Does anyone know if there is a difference between MINOCIN MR and regular gener
c stuff?thankye..
RE: contacts w/ on ACCUTANE.. I wear soft lens myself and use TEARS NATURAL II, fin dthem at CVS, they are the best.. put a couple drops in eyes before inserting contacts. During 3rd month of ACCUTAEN (40mg) I had to wear glasses though.its good anyway..g
ves more oxygen to eyes right?Then You can walk around looking like a nerdy kid wiht acne scars thank ye.
Good Luck!
Confessions of a Pig - 11/14/99 21:44:49
Comments:
Here one stand before you. The gavel falls. A resounding echo sounds a hollow shrill throughout the site. "HG Pig, rise on all fours." You stand before us, on all fours, charged with "holding back the truth from us." "How do you plead.?" before us HGPig,
plead "Not guilty, your Honor." "Your plead has hear-in been entered" "Silence!, Silence! in the court room, I declare!." Quiet GW and Silena, before I hold you in contempt." "And that goes for you other Anons." "We will have order in this court, and I w
ll not have my courtroom turn into a charade.!" "Prosecution, your first witness please." "Prosecution calls Silena to the stand" "Silena, one question, did that HGPig ignore you by not giving e-mail address out, and posting anonymously ignoring you.? Obj
ction! Objection your Honor! "Objection sustained" "Court has no way of substantiating that HGPig was the so called "anonymous" poster" "Witness may step down." "Next witness please." "The prosecution calls GW to the stand." "Is it true HGPig posted on th
s site and claimed HG's combinations were doing positive things." "Well your honor, I eventually stated recently that the posts here were "quite funny". "Is that what you wrote." "I'ye your honor". HGPig, would the defense like to cross-examine?" "No, you
honor, but the defense wishes to reserve calling this witness at a later date." "How late.?" "When GW retires from politics." "Request permitted." "Any more prosecution witnesses?" "No your honor, but the prosecution, did search for the identities of th
se so called "anonymous ones", but they would not come forward." "Very well then, the prosecution rests" ~~~~murmur~~~throughout the room~~~~murmur~~~throughout the room~~~~. "Bang, bang bang~~~the gavel resounds.!!! "Order in the court!" "Does the defens
have anything to say to these charges.!" "Yes, your honor, the defense calls HGPig to the stand." "Has the witness been sworn of it's rights of self-incrimination." "Yes your Honor, and HGPig has waved witnesses rights." "Very well then, proceed." "HGPig
do you claim to have come to this site to help with the said same subjects, and to help to the best of your knowledge." "I do." "To the best of your knowledge, did you not claim to contrived the "MY" posts, to the help of the community.? "I did, with the
intention of demonstrating the physiological cycles of a pore, through metaphors and analogies." "Do you claim this to have succeeded.'? "To this I do not know, but I do believe that some may have benefited from learning certain physiologies." "Such as wh
t HG, could you be more specific?" "Yes, such as the 28 day skin cycle." "Do you have anything else to say at this time." "Not at this time." "Very well the witness may crawl down." "Court is adjourned until tomorrow." "Court dismissed"
Rianne - 11/14/99 21:05:43
Gender: Female
Age: 34
Comments:
I haven't visited the site for a few days and wanted to read all the new messages. But when I scrolled down the last posting was from Amy on the 13 November (at 12.10) and then after that it just said "home page"!! Strange! Normally you can read page af
er page after page. Anyone know why the messages stop on the 13th?! For Sally (39) who wrote - what is Daktacrt? I'd be really interested to know. Anyway....my news is that I'm still battling on with my skin. I've lost some of my faith in the DermaLu
lamp treatment - I really thought I was onto a winner with it - that's life I guess!!! All my long-standing friends on this site know that I can't take Accutane so I'm constantly looking for other cures and remedies. If I find anything (anything at all
!) that helps me I can't wait to share it with you! At the moment I'm still taking the Minocin MR, it's the only thing that seems to help. I've mentioned before that my skin literally throws out so much oil - it's unbelievable. So, of course, my pores
et blocked and then I get the lovely red lumps and bumps. When I was shopping last week I noticed a new product (well, new for me!) called Clean and Clear "Oil Absorbing" Sheets. They are made by Johnson and Johnson - you get 50 sheets for approximately
£5.00. They're absolutely fantastic!! One of the good things is that you guys out there can use them too - they're not like "make-up" or like the small "powder sheets" which have been sold for years - these are completely different. They really "mop up
the oil so well and leave your skin matte and clean looking. It's just a small "wallet" kind of thing so they can be easily kept in a small bag or pocket and used when you like (frequently in my case!) and then just thrown away. I also use them prior t
washing my face (I use "T Zone" Tea Tree Gel Facial Wash) and it seems as if my skin comes up much more "squeaky clean" than before and feels really good. "T Zone" Tea Tree also do these "No Shine Papers" (there are 100 sheets in that one) so I've bough
both types. I had never heard of them before this week. If you have really oily skin (like me) I think they're worth trying - I love them! I realise that maybe the people on Accutane wouldn't find them useful because their skin will be dry. But for v
ry oily skin they're a wonderful help. I mentioned something called "Artecoll" in one of my previous postings and wondered if anyone out there knows anything about it. They have a web site and it sounds very promising. Artecoll is like collagen - only
ermanent. I am always looking for things to help my acne scarring - it's a bit of a "mission" with me because my acne scars are pretty awful. Well....as usual I'm rambling. As always, good luck and lots of love to everyone! Rianne.
Pam - 11/14/99 20:56:32
Gender: female
Age: 32
Comments:
UPDATE...month twelve on Roaccutane...(I took lower doses over an extended period to manage elevated cholesterol)...I've got uni exams to sit this week...and not a SINGLE ZIT IN SIGHT!!! Like Marcus...I'm thinking 'Roaccutane - what a miracle!' Anyway...j
st wanted to let you know...I had a friend stay with me last week who participated in drug trials of Roaccutane 11 years ago...his skin was immaculate...and I would never have guessed he once suffered from acne...JASMINE...I would strongly suggest waiting
until after you've finished your course of Roaccutane...before you use any bleaching/fading agents on your face...especially because you already have sensitive skin...K.K. I appreciate the concerns you have about Roaccutane...and your hesitancy to put you
daughter on it...I would certainly suggest exhausting all other avenues first...that said...Roaccutane has worked very well for me...with minimal discomfort in terms of side-effects...however because I waited so long to try it...I have considerable scarr
ng...in retrospect...I wish I'd taken it much earlier...KIRBY...personally I don't find aloe vera gel particularly effective...but many other people have found it useful...I'm very doubtful that it would cause more pimples...and yes you can use it straigh
from the plant...
To: MY aka HGPig - 11/14/99 20:48:24
Comments:
Why avoid speaking freely about your acne problem? There is no need to disguise your problem in terms of governments and waterfalls. None of us here will ridicule you (at least not the compassionate ones).
Allison - 11/14/99 19:59:28
Gender: female
Age: 16
Comments:
Hey ive been on accutane for about 5 days, and i wear contacts, now it makes it almost unbearable to wear them. Is there any eye drops i could use or will i have to just wear glasses??
William - 11/14/99 19:14:16
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Comments:
I just found this page and have a few questions that maybe some of you could help me out with. Well I have had acnce since I was 14 or 15 and it never really bothered me that much, but I finally decided that I just wanted to get rid of it. I'm now 18 and
ave been taking acutane at a dosage of 40mg a day for seven weeks. My skin doesn't seem much better although i will admit the the pimples I get now don't seem to be quite as bad as they were before. Other than that the drug doesn't seem to have done very
uch. My face now is covered in red marks and still has quite afew of those little white head things. Will these ever completely fade away? Side effects I have experienced have been dry lips/nose. Although these two seem to have decreased in severity in th
past few weeks. I also find that I often very tired in teh mornings, evenings, and during the day. Has this happened to anyone else?
marcus - 11/14/99 18:46:07
My Email:marcus@kittridge.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: male
Age: 37
Comments:
Roaccutane - what a miracle.
After years of acne and six years on oxytetracycline etc, i fannaly conviced my GP to refer me to a skin consultant.
After three months on the treatment the acne dissapeared completely and has not returned. That was three years ago. - Brilliant.
I did have some trouble keeping my body fats and lipids low during the treatment. My bloodtests were at the top end of the safe limit on each ocassion but with will power i kept my fat intake down to almost zero for the duration of the treatment.
The only side effects i suffered were two weeks of extreme dryness ( controlled with aqueous cream ) and a weight loss of some 30 pounds. What a bonus !
Good luck to anyone on Roaccutanec - its the best thing i ever did.
jasmine - 11/14/99 18:30:01
Age: 19
Comments:
hi its me again.I am jus very gald that i get responds to my problems thanks!I am jus wondering when will the red marks go off and i heard abt the bleaching cream that helps.But i have very sensitive skin and is worried that it will irritate my skin and m
ke it worse.and when should i apply the cream? after i finish my course of accutane or anytime?thanks! and good luck to all people out there,look forward to a clear complextion! and God bless!
Julie - 11/14/99 16:25:28
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
Sally & Cody- You can buy "Aveeno" products from any store such as Miejers, Arbor, CVS, or even Rite-Aid. "Aveeno", I believe, is an oatmeal based skincare line. Oatmeal is used to relieve irritation. NOTE: I am not telling people to start slapping oatmea
all over your face! For those of you that need a good emollient moisturizer try "Dermatop". My dermatologist prescribed it for me and it works great! You DO need a prescription for it. It kind of works like a hydrocortizone cream, but better. You can put
it on your face and also areas of your body that seem to be very dry. GOOD LUCK!
sally - 11/14/99 13:43:38
Gender: female
Age: 39
Comments:
Cody - I was prescribed Aveeno but I am trying to find out if you can get it otc.There are a whole range of Aveeno products made by Rydelle Laboratories. The Aveeno cream that I have been using is a moisturising cream, you use it as a face wash with water
and then as a moisturisor. It really helps the redness and dryness. Good Luck
Jasmine - the rash around your eyes sounds like mine which was a drug rash - go back and see your derma.
kirby - 11/14/99 12:50:55
My Email:spunki@hotkey.net.au
Gender: female
Age: 15
Comments:
just a quick question!!
does aloe vera help calm the skin or could it be the cause of more pimples??? i am on accutane by the way , sorry my msg has to be so quick!
and if so, can i use aloe stright from the plant?
a reply would be greatly appiciated!!!
thank you!
cody - 11/14/99 12:17:14
Gender: male
Comments:
i have a question for Sally. You speak of a cream that helped reduce the redness which is called 'AVEENo CREAM'. Is that a prescription cream or an otc cream. Does it also reduce the dryness?.
I would really appreciate your info.
Clive - 11/14/99 10:49:51
Comments:
Hey Chris
as far as i know most people don't get the nose bleeds, unfortunately i get around 3 a day and have done for around 2 weeks now. I have always got a fair few nose bleeds anyway so i think if you don't get them often now you should be alright
To: KK - 11/14/99 09:01:19
Comments:
KK: Be just as careful with the tetracyclines, they can cause defect in enamel tooth color(ations).They are calcium binders. The skin lesions you refer to seem to be "superficial" type 1 acne (vs. deep acne). A suggestion, try possibly amoxicillin. Amoxic
llin (Trimox) is usually not indicated for existing lesions, however can be an excellent PREVENTATIVE measure. Rememeber if your daughter enjoys sports, especially out of doors, then photosensitivity is a problem with many tetracyclines. Best to you.
To: jasmine - 11/14/99 07:30:41 - 11/14/99 07:56:23
Comments:
Jasmine, hope all is well with you today. You might be experiencing "chaffing", a common side effect of Accutane/Isotretinoin. Some of my previous posts I alluded to this issue. Try applying hydrocortizone with aloe to these areas. The brand Our Family, m
kes a cream. Also, desonide (DesOwen by Galderma) may provide some relief. Always follow directions, use great care with any product around the eyes . Best to you, anon, permanently from now on.
- 11/14/99 07:35:36
Comments:
Another humble poster hides behind the fig leaves stating, "- 11/14/99 07:16:49
Comments:
HGPig: your need for constant attention is becoming incredibly tedious."
jasmine - 11/14/99 07:30:41
Age: 19
Comments:
hi guys,
i came across this site today and thought that it was really great!Anyway i am on the 2nd mth of accutane and have some problems whick i hope people who had the same experience with me could answer.REcently i have started to develop rash over my h
nds legs and now it had spread to the area around my eyes.Is this one of the side effects?and could u guys recommend some creams to stop the itching???pardon my english.thanks!
clare - 11/14/99 07:25:35
Gender: female
Age: 17
Comments:
Hi there,well abt the natural remedies i had posted yesterday,they are just some solutions which i think helps the acne to heal.But of course Roaccutane does the main job.Its my own opinion which i think is more effective than to apply pimple gel instead.
ts really up to u guys to try it or not.I'm just sharing.
- 11/14/99 07:16:49
Comments:
HGPig: your need for constant attention is becoming incredibly tedious.
HEY! - 11/14/99 07:06:19
Comments:
Hey, is anybody watching Morgan Fairchild right now in "the Seduction"? She looks loke one of the first ever accutane patients.
- 11/14/99 06:54:09
Comments:
this place is getting to weird !
MY, Your close, I said it in my "first post" - 11/14/99 06:37:43
Comments:
I'm a PORE (look back at the first post). "tiny" every 28 days my skin sheds off (the epidermis sheds), the water fall are the two washes per day (acid salyc.acid etc.,) the undergound stream, includes the DNA, blood, plasma , hormones neighbors other por
s, etc., (the "expert advisor" is your practitioner. derm. etc.,) Oh well, I'll have to choose something new. Oh, by the way, how did you like my Brooke wins the vote joke? Even GW liked those. The first post I said I am "very, very PORE" HGPig
KK - 11/14/99 05:57:00
My Email:rugratz@execpc.com
Age: 35
Comments:
I'm not quite sure what to do..my 13yr old daughter has had acne for 1.5 yrs now and during this time our dermatolagist has given numerous types of medication and the last one being tetracycline...she does not have "nodular acne"which is the kind accutane
is used for,but because she hasn't responded to any other types of medication. He said he will prescribe this to her under very, very monitored conditions. i'm not quite sure if we should try this or not..she has started the ortho-tricycline..which she ha
been taking for 3 months and that is helping slightly..she would have to stay on this while taking the accutane...should we just continue with the "ortho" or should we try the accutane?? I'm too afaid of all the side effects that I,ve been hearing
about. She is very active in sports and I would not want her to quit sports because of her bones hurting..thanks for any advice..
TO: MY - 11/14/99 05:39:44
Comments:
Wait- there's more....the "government" is your dermatologist? One of your "streams" or "waterfalls" is your period? "Silver spear" into the "roof of your house" is a pin or some other object you are poking into a whitehead (ick)?
To: MY - 11/14/99 05:01:48
Comments:
I think you are speaking metaphorically about your acne. The "underground stream" is your hormones? The "waterfall" is the environment? Your "neighbors" are your alter egos? "Pollution" is the bacteria?
To Chris - 11/14/99 01:34:03
Comments:
Yes nose-bleeds can occur (and probably will). Try to notice when your nasal cavities "feel" dry BUT FEEL "RUNNY.". If an episode does occur, have a tissue/kleenex, handy at all times, and pack it in the nasal cavity. I.e. pressure to relieve the bleeding
(P.R.I.S.M.) When out in public, do not blow your nose if you can help it. Usually when such an episode occurs, the sensation is one in which it initially feels like your having a "runny nose". This is a tell-tale sign that a bleed will occur. Now's the t
me for an excuse such as "I need to rinse my contact lense" (or whatever excuse you can think of). The bleed usually subsides in 15 minutes or less. Best to you. (Also, often cold weather may precipitate this too). Best to you.
MY: to no-name cruel female age 25 - 11/14/99 01:25:41
Comments:
I spoke about MY. You are rude. And you write "This site is for people dealing with acne. " That's why I am here right. You have not learned or read of me here, MY.
Chris - 11/14/99 01:25:08
Gender: Male
Comments:
Hi there,
I recently started a course of Roaccutane and I'm about a week on, no side effects yet except for the dry lips. But I'm a little worried about the possibility of nose bleeds - the other side effects I believe I can cope with, but I'd feel VERY uncomfortab
e having a nose bleed while I was in a public place or something. (I dont like to draw attention to myself :) )
How common are these nose bleeds, how often do they happen, how long do they last for etc?
Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
To the gutless anonymous "poster" - 11/14/99 01:22:35
Comments:
You have NOT been reading ALL my writings here. And you speak, this site is about acne...etc.," Proof that you have not read all here about MY. t You get out you negative "leader", no wonder your infected. Also look at the rules, your suppose to be nice,
ot cruel.
- 11/14/99 00:51:56
Gender: female
Age: 25
Comments:
This site is for people dealing with acne. If you don't have acne don't bother posting on this site. This message is for "MY". Time to see your therapists, buddy!
MY - 11/13/99 22:20:11
Comments:
Glad to hear most of your experts are helping me and My neighbors. Those leaders at this site that are being negative and making excuses hurt me and my neighbors. I know what your saying now, "My, how do these poster leaders hurt you?" Well, the answer to
your question is those negative ones, who constantly wimp out like the leader of my government sometimes, cause pollution to begin with, and then on top of that fail to send healthy materials up the underground stream! So now what do you say? It's time to
be alittle more positive, and send those good waters to me, ok?
Brooks - 11/13/99 21:43:07
My Email:cheeriogirl@hotmail.com
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Comments:
I've had acne since about the age of 15 and I start on tetracyline and nothing. Then last October-November I took accutane for one month. I had to get off of it because my doctor after taking blood test which showed that my cholesterol was up and my proti
n enzymes were low....has anyone else has this effect! The doctor was more surprised then I was!
Then I went the doctor again because I've had it....so I started again just yesterday on Accutane. Altought the frist time did some good...I work with a pharmacist and he told me that it's not the lenght of time that you take it but how many treatments-ti
es you've tried it!
The last time I tried it I only have the dry lips..nothing else....I was kinda mad that my blood was not right!
Hope to hear from other's my age!
- 11/13/99 21:42:08
Gender: Female
Age: 29
Comments:
My experience with Accutane was not as great as everyone else and I just want people to know that there are some bad effects as well. Not just dry skin, lips, etc. It had a very bad effect on my emotional state. It was a very scary and very real proble
that forced me to quit taking the medication. All is fine now and I am back to normal. Just make sure you tell your Doctors if you have ANY history of depression in your family backround. I wanted to try it sooooo bad that I ignored my medical history
Anyway,
I'm glad it worked for all those in this guest book.
Sally - 11/13/99 21:16:29
Gender: Female
Age: 39
Comments:
Another oldie. I have had acne since I was 13 and have been on oral antibiotics since then,25 years!! So much for only being safe for a year or 2!Nothing ever made them go away completely and last year I decided enough was enough and asked for Roaccutane,
after a couple of weeks my skin was perfect and I had no side effects apart from slightly dry lips, I think the my body must have been so used to the antibiotics that the Roaccutane did not bother it to much. After 6 months I stopped but unfortunately 2 w
eks later I was a mass of small pimples, thankfully not my normal large boils. I returned to the derma who prescribed a further 6 month treatment but this time I had some strange side effects, VERY red & dry skin which cracked & bled. After about 2 months
I developed a rash around my eyes which was awful. I decided to stop the tablets and returned to my derma who said I had developed a drug rash and could not use Roaccutane again. She put me back on Minocin and prescribed Aveeno Cream for the redness and D
ktacort for the Acne. Now 4 weeks later the redness has gone and the creams seem to work wonders, any sign of a pimple and the Daktacrt zaps it away, you have to use this sparingly as it contains a steroid which thins the skin. However my skin at the mome
t is good, lets hope it stays that way.
Good Luck to you all
Bob Topps - 11/13/99 19:01:36
My URL:http://www.zitface.com
My Email:btt@aol.com
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Comments:
Drying of lips happened within 2 weeks of treatment for me, I used Aquaphor and that stuff works well. Muscle Aches were a pisser but I had a routine that helpled me a lot..Anyway if you need a QUICK acne killer try fasting for a couple of days. You'll be
amazed, an dit proves all those MDs who say there is no FOOD-ZIT connection.
As far as the long term effects of Accutane, I would say dont expect any growth spurts during or any time after treatment..thank ye.
To: MY - 11/13/99 18:13:52
Comments:
Hello, I think I have figured it out. Your house is actually an institution. The trees are actually plants in your room. and some of your other neighbors who have two trees (two plants). A waterfall is actually a shower. And the stream is a flow from
the sink when you must take liquid with all the pills they are giving you? And the Government is the staff of the institution. And most of all you have a vivid imagination which can be helpful.
Allison - 11/13/99 16:47:30
Gender: female
Age: 16
Comments:
It's only my 3rd day on accutane and my muscles ache, will this ever stop and is there anything i can do to help it?
Solveig - 11/13/99 15:14:56
Gender: female
Age: 31
Comments:
To NICOLE (11/09/99 22:41:33) who wanted people's experiences with Dianette/Diane-35; here's mine: I've been on the D-pill for about three years, and it has worked wonderfully and completely wiped out my monstrous cystic acne (and they were *bad* around
y mouth area. (I've had acne since I was 13, and they've been cystic since about 20)). I had one try at Diane before, some eight years ago, when it didn't work at all. However, I've been off the pill since August, to see if nature had cleared up my acne i
the meantime. But (of course) they came back after about a month. According to several physicians it's OK to use Diane for a long time, but I thought I couldn't go on doing it forever. (I'm constantly thinking about trying Roaccutane, but I'm really scar
d about the side effects…) Anyway, Diane had virtually no side effects for me, except a perhaps generally lowered "esteem" (nothing like a depression, more like a somewhat lower-key mood) and a slight tendency to put on weight more easily. I would also ha
e occasional uncomfortable outbreaks of Candida, but there are good remedies around for that. My mouth cracked in the corners, too. On the plus side (and for me, they have far outweighed the negatives), my skin was practically blemish-free, I'd get the od
singular outbreak (but nothing like the cysts anyway!), my skin didn't appear the slightest bit greasy, and even the pores and blackheads seemed to shrink in size. Hope this helps you!
Worrying about the side effects of Roaccutane, can anyone tell me more about the long-term (side) effects of it? I'm still looking around for alternatives, so does anyone have any experience - good or bad - with homeopathic treatment?
paul - 11/13/99 13:25:34
My URL:http://www.oocities.org/roaccutane999/
My Email:paul@holliday999.freeserve.co.uk
Gender: male
Age: 17/18
Comments:
well am just 18, and the acne has gone, just thought I would say that there is hope, just hang in there, it does work, although for some people it takes longer than normal, I have breakouts right up to wk 16, and then it went. Going in to the sea and stuf
is fine, just remember to moistrize ! afterwards ! One thing I found, cut your hair short when your skin is nice, and you really don't regonise yourself.... :)
don't be put off by using accutane, as most people who it worked for, don't come back to this site, and see what people are saying, and give encouragment. I have had acne since I was 13 in a big way, so I know what you are going though, the days do matter
time won't stop, unless you go out and do something exciting :) I was on 60mg a day, and didn't tell anyone, I wish I did, had to lie tooo much.
Just thought I would say that, thanks, hang in there
PAUL
Amy - 11/13/99 12:10:03
My Email:babe908@hotmail.com
Gender: female
Age: 16
Comments:
Hi...I just turned 16 and I have been suffering from acne ever since the age of 11. From about the age of 12 onwards I took various prescribed antibiotics such as oxytetracycline and eythramicin along with various creams, lotions etc. None of this seemed
to kick in. At the age of 14 still pickled in acne, I was prescribed the contraceptive dianette which also had no effect (for me anyway). Through these years I had suffered dryness of the skin, phases where my acne would 'get worse before it gets better'
but nothing seemed to work. I was miserable. Last September I was taken to a skin specialist and he gave me roaccutane. I went on it for 4 months. I suffered lots of side effects, I had to give up sport because of my muscle inflamation, severe lip dryne
s and serious depression. By the end of the 4th month I didnt have a spot in sight..finally something had worked for me! But it was not until about 3 months later it started coming back! aahh! Back to the skin specialist for more roaccutane for another
months. Again it worked by the end of the course. This ended at the end of July and up until about 2 weeks ago I had my lovely olive skin back. Yesterday I went back to the skin specialist and have been prescribed betatide scrub for my face (which is s
ckening!) and a facial topical solution. My acne at the moment is not the same as before, it has become like a small rash over my face, more pimply than big spots. I just pray it doesnt flare up again. Having acne is awful, I have gone through phases w
ere i dont want to be seen, it knocked my confidence dramatically in school. The worst thing was going to abroad to hot countries where i couldnt wear cover up in the sun and people would look at the spots over my shoulders. It was a nightmare. For people
who are on roaccutane now, what i would have to say to them is DONT GIVE UP!! I know the side effects can be very off-putting but at the end of the day this is a very powerful drug and recommended by lots of skin specialists. hang in there.
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