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Official war Unnamed Clan against X-Style Alpha Squad 2 July 2004, 1445h Lost with 11 against 09 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/V2 Rocket Facility Server: ours Ladder: MoH Obj Real 2on2 Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: no bazooka or shotgun 4x5 rounds max 1 sniper fun=on Report by Carlito: UC line up Carl & Scor damn GG Official war Unnamed Clan against Death from Benede 4 July 2004, 1900h Won with 20 against 08 Levels: The Hunt/The Bridge Server: dfa, ore yours Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: Cup rules! but ff= off! Report by Goatrider: THE REASONS WHY ONE SHOULD AVOID THIS CLAN: - Use of freelancers during the match - Shooting during bash and refusing to restart - Switching players during the match - Spectating during the match - Respawning after being killed in a counting round - Whining, lying about the cubrules and about our way of playing In contrast to the nice match we played against these guys, they now were a real pain in the ass. We thought it would be a nice match, but most of the time they acted like classic noobs. Only challenge this clan if you want to waste your evening or if you want to score points easily. Check out these links below to see for yourself: I asked Squeaky (who we couldn't find amongst the DfA members @ CB) if he was a member of DfA. He said: "No but I attend to the same school as they do." Sigh... The name of the freelancer clearly falls out of place. In the window that opens after pressing F6, you can clearly see that D@nE$ was shot twice in a short time (in the same round). After he was killed he quickly switched his weapon so he could respawn. Some other players of DfA did it too, but it went to quickly for me to take any more screenshots. During the bashing Mannetje gets shot by NAVY. Instead of granting UC victory or making a restart, DfA did nothing. Spectating after Squeaky left the server. Apparently DfA wanted to switch players. However, they didn't tell us that, they did it during a round instead of during the break. They didn't even ask. The round counted, so this spectator wasn't allowed. DfA whining about us using a shotgun, although they wrote 'cuprules' in their own challenge notes. DfA whining about us having 2 snipers, although they wrote 'cuprules' in their own challenge notes. DfA claiming that Mannetje's position on the wall behind the pink house isn't allowed. Line up: >UC<: Goatrider Mannetje Rabbito Evilpoop -=}DfA{=-: Danny NAVY Squeaky (not knowing where the bomb is put 2 lose) / D@nE$ (spec 2 lose) Dieter Scores: The Hunt: UC Allies 5 - DfA Axis 2 UC Axis 6 - DfA Allies1 Kills: Rabbito 18 [1 WTK - 1 triple kill] Mannetje 13 [1 WTK - 1 triple kill] Evil 9 [1 triple kill] Goat 9 The Bridge: UC Axis 3 - DfA Allies 4 UC Allies 6 - DfA Axis 1 Kills: Mannetje 16 [1 WTK ] Rabbito 12 [1 triple kill] Evil 11 [1 WTK] Goat 9 TOTAL SCORE: 20-8 Well, we had fun laughing out loud at Squeaky when he killed 2 of us, but didn't know how to dismantle the explosives. Love to teach you about the cuprules or mohaa objectives some time. Grtz, Goatrider Conflict started by -=}DfB{=-GP|Admin[Be] (DfA), on 6 Jul 10:28: they do not follow the roles we have told before the war "we told them bofor the match shotguns where not alowwed and there was only 1 sniper alowed, but they writed cuprules in a counter, but let what we had writed stand above it, so we thougd it was still no shotgun and 1 sniper. but during the war they had 2 snipers and a shotgun. so me didn't play the war on a fair way eather and do not want the war to count, becous they didn't follow the rules. there war raport proves it" What we've done to solve ourself: "we have told them several times that they wheren't allowed to hav shotgun and 2 snipers" Claim:"the match dousn't count" Decision of Cain, July 8th 2004 "I see nothing in the rules to back up your reason for the conflict. Result stands." Comment by The Emperor, 8 Jul 18:40: Goatrider wrote: Hmm, we demanded forfeit win... Indeed... freelancing means forfeit win, not "result stand"... Poorly judged imo! Comment by Goatrider, 8 Jul 16:57: Hmm, we demanded forfeit win... Comment by Carlito, 8 Jul 16:57: Eunt! Comment by The Emperor, 7 Jul 14:54: -=}DfB{=-GP|Admin[Be] wrote: Squeaky is in our clan, but we where just testing him to look how good was above cuprules we had written no shotgun/rockets and 1 sniper, that weans that we play the cuprules but change that 2 subjects of it and youjumped on roofs and over walls, I don't think that is alowed by the cuprules :-$ First of all: And I quote the notes of this match: Notes: Cup rules! but ff= off! I don't see ANY word or whatsoever that says 1 shotguns and multiple snipers are not allowed, do you? And agreements made afterworths the challenge on MSN, ICQ etc etc are not considered to be binding. Please read the rules next time. And secondly: you say Squeaky was in your clan, but it seems we cant find him on you CB homepage. And that is just the place where he is supposed to be listed to make him a member of your clan. Again: please read the rules next time. Third of all: it is allowed to jump over walls and climb on roofs as long as you can reach the places all by yourself (like the churchroof) and if you dont get under the map. We even showed you how to reach certain places, which isnt even obliged but we did it to keep out of trouble. Guess we didnt manage to do that and now we are in a nonsense conflict. And last but not least: where are your provals of us jumping on forbidden roofs and over walls? Please read the rules next time! Comment by -=}DfB{=-GP|Admin[Be], 7 Jul 10:43: Squeaky is in our clan, but we where just testing him to look how good was above cuprules we had written no shotgun/rockets and 1 sniper, that weans that we play the cuprules but change that 2 subjects of it and youjumped on roofs and over walls, I don't think that is alowed by the cuprules :-$ Comment by Goatrider, 6 Jul 13:41: Challenge Notes: Cup rules! but ff= off! It's shameless and beyond comprehension that DfA starts this conflict, while they did practicly everything that causes a forfeit win for UC. UC has done nothing wrong. The Challenge Notes show that the war would be played by the cuprules, which means 1 shotgun allowed and multiple snipers. THE REASONS WHY UC SHOULD WIN THIS CONFLICT DfA made the following offenses: - Use of freelancers during the match (which makes this discussion needless in the first place) - Respawning after being killed in a counting round - Switching players during the match instead of in the break - Spectating during the match - Shooting during bash and refusing to restart - Whining and lying about the cubrules and about our way of playing Check out the proof in the screenshots below (DfA has no proof and refers to our screens!) : FREELANCING http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2007/lame_DfA/dfa_freelance.jpg I asked Squeaky (who we couldn't find amongst the DfA members @ CB) if he was a member of DfA. He said: "No but I attend to the same school as they do." Sigh... http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2007/lame_DfA/dfa_freelance2.jpg The name of the freelancer clearly falls out of place. At the time of the war, no members of DfA has that name. But maybe this screen isn't necessary, since Squeaky admitted he was a freelancer! RESPAWNING http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2007/lame_DfA/dfa_respawn.jpg In the window that opens after pressing F6, you can clearly see that D@nE$ was shot twice in a short time (in the same round). After he was killed he quickly switched his weapon so he could respawn. Some other players of DfA did it too, but it went to quickly for me to take any more screenshots. PROHIBITED PLAYERSWITCH/SPECTATING http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2007/lame_DfA/dfa_switch_spectate.jpg Spectating after Squeaky left the server. It seemed that DfA wanted to switch players. However, they didn't tell us that, and they did it during a round instead of during the break. Since they didn't say anything about a playerswitch, we assumed that round counted, so this spectator wasn't allowed. SHOOTING DURING BASH BUT NO RESTART http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2007/lame_DfA/dfa_shoots.jpg During the bashing Mannetje gets killed by bullets fired by NAVY. Instead of granting UC victory or making a restart, DfA did nothing. FALSE ACCUSATIONS http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2007/lame_DfA/dfa_whining1.jpg DfA whining about us using a shotgun, although the challenge notes say 'cuprules'. Maybe they were too lazy to read them, but that doesn't mean the don't count. http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2007/lame_DfA/dfa_whining2.jpg DfA whining about us having 2 snipers, although they wrote 'cuprules' in their own challenge notes. http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2007/lame_DfA/dfa_whining3.jpg DfA claiming that Mannetje's position on the wall behind the pink house isn't allowed. Even after we showed them how it was done, they still think it's not allowed (according to their report)! We claim a forfeit win for UC. DfA clearly can't stand losing and started a conflict under the cloak of false accusations while they have made some of the most serious and showy offenses (use of freelancer when you have so much members and respawning after being killed). The accusations of DfA are simply false. UC played by the rules and we therefore expect Clanbase to punish DfA's lies with a reduction of points. Official war Unnamed Clan against Army of Gorkum 7 July 2004, 20:15 Won with 21 against 07 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: UC Server Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: - CKR 1.1 on - FF off - 0 shotguns, 0 rocketlaunchers, 2 snipers - DMW on - 4x7 rounds (max. rounds) The following demo of this war is available for download: Unnamed Clan x Army of Gorkum In eyes Scorsese Report by Carlito: >UC< Line up: Emperor, Kampeergast, Scorsese, Mannetj# & Carlito! Scores: V2: axis UC 6 - 1 AoG allies allies UC 4 - 3 AoG axis UC 10 - 4 AoG Hunt: allies UC 5 - 2 AoG axis axis UC 6 - 1 AoG allies UC 11- 3 AoG totaal: 21-7 voor UC nice match, untill you guy's started the whining. DMW was on we won no big deal. Demo is comming! Comment by The Emperor, 8 Jul 18:56: "You know too much" "Thats impossible" "Where is the DMW status message?" And that's just a small selection of the accusations made by AoG. Comment by Carlito, 8 Jul 17:12: Merci Beaucoup! Comment by BS^ ([KINGS]), 8 Jul 17:02: Demo is ready helped Scorsese with demo hope you like it. If clanbase does work! Official war Unnamed Clan against Elite Squad 9 July 2004, 1215h Draw with 10 against 10 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: our server Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: - 4x5 rounds - 1 sniper - 0 shotgun / rocket - latest DMW on - nice war! Report by Carlito: UC line up: Scor, Carl, Goat, Mannetje! nice war// we fucked up @ Hunt, you @ V2 lol Cya in rematch! Comment by -|€$|-Bananabas, 9 July 16:34: UC is a very nice clan, no moaning or swearing troughout the whole war. We hope to have a rematch against you guys. Official war Unnamed Clan against Qontrol! 9 July 2004, 2045h Won with 16 against 12 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: UC Server Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: 1 sniper max realism on ff off bash for side @ beginning no zooka or shotty Fun=on Report by Carlito: UC line up: - Scorsese - Emperor - Mannetj# - bS^ - Kampeergast - Carlito scores: V2: axis UC 7 - 0 Qtrol allies allies UC 2 - 5 Qtrol axis UC 9-5 Qtrol Hunt: allies UC 1 - 6 Qtrol axis axis UC 6 - 1 Qtrol allies UC 7-7 Qtrol total 16-12 UC! GG Qontrol! Official war Unnamed Clan against Art of War 10 July 2004, 1500h Won with 25 against 03 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Bridge Server: UC server Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: none Screenshots Required?: Yes Notes: - 1 sniper! - 0 shotgun/rocket - screens, path, dir, clientinfo, insta's - 5on5 - FF = off Report by Carlito: UC line up: - Emperor - BS^ - Febi - Kippetje - Maffia wicked! GG AoW Official war Unnamed Clan against Clan Berenboot 12 July 2004, 2100h Won with 15 against 13 Levels: The Hunt/V2 Rocket Facility Server: ours or yours doesn\\ Ladder: MoH Obj Real Benelux Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: 1 sniper, no rocket, 4 x 7 rounds Hi, we are a pretty new clan so you won't find us in the ladders yet. Hope that doesn't disturbe you. If you accept this, I guarantee you it will be a good, fair and fun match! Report by The Emperor: Line up UC: The Emperor Kampeergast Mannetj# Bs Scores V2: UC Allies: 4-3 to UC UC Axis: 6-1 to UC OMG! We 0wned V2! Scores Hunt: UC Axis: 4-3 to UC UC Allies: 1-6 to BB OMG! We sucked at Hunt!! Nice war!!! Report by ((-BB-)) Kpt. Brom: This was realy a nice war. After V2 we thought it would be over. UC was way in front. But at the Hunt we surpriced them enough to keep the game, at least a bit more, exciting for them. GG Guys. I am sure there is going to be a rematch in the future. Comment by BS^ ([KINGS]), 14 Jul 14:13: yup! Comment by Carlito, 12 Jul 22:57: GG!!! Official war Unnamed Clan against Rangers of Honor 14 July 2004, 2100h Lost with with 23 against 05 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: UC Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Report by Goatrider: We filled in a 1-0 forfeit win for UC because the DMW Scanner detected a HACK used by clanleader EliminatoR. It doesn’t matter that we stayed on the server to play some more rounds (we simply wanted to play some MOHAA, because after all that was what we planned to do). And ofcourse, EliminatoR rapidly removed his file and reconnected to the server, but if DMW wasn't activated, he would propably have played the entire match with that hack installed. PROOF: In-game proof of EliminatoR being kicked by the DMW Scanner after the hack had been detected: http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_hack1.jpg http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_hack2.jpg The DMW-log shows the detection of a hack: http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_hack3.jpg The only reason we didn’t immediately start a conflict, was the fact that we wanted to try and solve this problem by giving RoH the chance to accept a 1-0 loss, instead of losing 100 points in a conflict. We don't like conflicts, but more and more often we are forced to begin one. What we have done ourselves to solve this situation: We didn’t try to arrange anything at the server, because there wasn't any conflict yet. We figured rule 7 of the topic Match Conflicts in the Ladder Rules was still valid: "Challenge notes and agreements made in irc, icq, mail etc... are not considered to be binding when the opponent contests them afterwards." Besides, RoH should have known that a forfeit win can and should be claimed when cheats are detected. Nonetheless, we DID try to solve the situation via e-mail and via MSN, but EliminatoR unconditionally rejected our claims. One of the few signs of intention to communicate was his sentence: "Ok I start conflikt". Goatrider sent an e-mail to RoH with our 1-0 claim. The staffmembers of UC Carlito, Kampeergast and Emperor all received a copy, so they can confirm that the message has been sent to EliminatoR and his trustee. PROOF: Screen of the e-mail: http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_preventconflict1.jpg Screenshots of a discussion on MSN shortly after the war. Goatrider tries to avoid a conflict, but EliminatoR’s reactions are not expediting the conversation: http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_preventconflict2.jpg http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_preventconflict4.jpg Our claim obviously is a 1-0 forfeit win: a hack has been detected in the opponent's MOHAA map. Report by Kaltoman (RoH): The match was set on 21.00 and we were late, because our CL Eliminator had to format his hard drive and reinstall system. He was still installing his MOHAA at 21.00 so he was in a big hurry not to loose a match by 'no show'. That is why he didn't fix his dmw by switching his opengl32.dll file to a proper one. After connecting to a server DMW Scanner kicked him out as we can see on UC's screen. After that Eliminator restarted his system in a sefe mode, switched proper opengl32 file, and conected to the server once again without any problems, just like the instruction of dmwfix says. After that we've waited for the rest of the teams and than we've started the clanwar without any comments or doubts from UC. Eliminator played the whole match, not "some more rounds" like Goatrider was kind to write in his raport, without any problems and with a green DMW light in a corner. His DMW was activated all the time, there would be a different comment from console if it wasn't. PROOF: As wee can se on UC's screen: http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/opengll.jpg DMW was actiwated all the time long before and during the match, there was only one situation when Eliminator's opengl32 file was detected before match (explained above), and the whole match was clean. The screen was taken right after finishing the match (You can see the time in the corner and the list of player equal with the screen of the last result: [/url] http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/v2_axis.jpg) Here are the results of the match (also see the green lights in the corners): http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/hunt_axis.jpg http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/hunt_allies.jpg http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/v2_allies.jpg http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/v2_axis.jpg Our guess is that after loosing match 23 round to 5 UC decided to try to win match in other way by accusing RoH about cheting. Goatrider was kind to write in his raport: "We didn’t try to arrange anything at the server, because there wasn't any conflict yet." We think that UC did'n try to arrange anything at the server because they hoped to win the match. Goatrider also wrote that "It doesn’t matter that we stayed on the server to play some more rounds (we simply wanted to play some MOHAA, because after all that was what we planned to do)." Well, it DOES. They agreed to play the match and there was no problem during the match. The problem came out after they where defeated. We were wery surprised with that situation. Solving this situation: Eliminator's english is not wery well as we can see on UC's screen that is why he didn't write much in MSN and that is why I decided to anser to Goatrider email http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_preventconflict1.jpg This is our answer sent on 2:17: http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/preventconflict_1.jpg After that we had no more reply from Goatrider. We've been playin MOHAA for over 2 years and we were never accused about cheating. Unnamed Clan played the match hoping to win, and after beeing defeated in fair fight they try to win other way. Comment by Goatrider, 22 Jul 13:36: Zelazny wrote: and do not imitate stupid boys who first play the match without any words of reservations with Eliminator's enter and after loss complaint about the most known MOHAA and DMW error. Well, at least we're not the ones who are trying to look cute in a conflict by pretending to have negociated (and in fact only sent an e-mail in the middle of the night and quickly started a conflict after that). And if that error is the most common error ever and EEEVERYBODY knows about it, it's a little strange that a CL of a "2 year experience clan" like RoH didn't know about it. We're just noobs like the RoH's members call us so don't blame us for not knowing (and not using a bug as an excuse to get away with it). Again, a lot of words, but no proof that it was indeed an error. How hard is it to press the print scrn button and send the screen... Comment by Zelazny (DRINKERS PL ), 19 Jul 22:45: In my opinion UC tries to take an advantage about Eliminator's mistake, mistake which is committed by thousends of MOHAA players. He played the match with clear mohaa, scanned by DMW and your suspicions about cheatnig has no bases. You had 5 conflicts? wow!! It's nice, RoH never remains in conflict... Roh is well known as clear and fair clan. Simply more train and do not imitate stupid boys who first play the match without any words of reservations with Eliminator's enter and after loss complaint about the most known MOHAA and DMW error. Buehehe! Grow Up babes! Comment by The Emperor, 17 Jul 03:13: Giergas wrote: Weird to be honest. Rangers of Honor, not the best but one of the oldest clans in PL Mohaa is accused of cheating - why does it puzzle me ? Just think - look at matches of RoH - if anyone from them hacked - they wouldn't be so low (with all due respect). In my opinion it' another stupid, MINDLESS accusation, if Eliminator had Hunt-Reborn.pk3 in his main u would arrange a conflict? Of course - rules are rules and thats your right to fight for them - but remember You will win one,two,three matches like that and NOBODY will want to fight against You at CB , no one! Please take a look at our judge and the number of matches we played (and that are not all matches, we played about 150 more matches with UC Elite). We are conisdered a very friendly and sportive clan by a lot of other clans (as you can see by our judge rating). We arrange a conflict because opengl32.dll is not only a bug, but also a hack. To be precisely: every openGL hack is named opengl32.dll! We had 5 conflict (of which we stated 1 ourself) and won 4 of them just because we were fully in our right. All the other ±300 matches were normal wars. I don't think you have to warn us about the consequenses of a conflict, after more than 1,5 existance I guess we have more than enough experience. Thank you. Comment by Giergas (xG'rcom), 15 Jul 20:49: Fr@ppe wrote: And that's the way It was, and that's the way the cookie crumble. ;) genialny film :)))) Comment by Fr@ppe (RoH), 15 Jul 20:04: And that's the way It was, and that's the way the cookie crumble. Comment by Giergas (xG'rcom ), 15 Jul 18:39: Weird to be honest. Rangers of Honor, not the best but one of the oldest clans in PL Mohaa is accused of cheating - why does it puzzle me ? Just think - look at matches of RoH - if anyone from them hacked - they wouldn't be so low (with all due respect). In my opinion it' another stupid, MINDLESS accusation, if Eliminator had Hunt-Reborn.pk3 in his main u would arrange a conflict? Of course - rules are rules and thats your right to fight for them - but remember You will win one,two,three matches like that and NOBODY will want to fight against You at CB , no one! Comment by J.Lo (RoH), 15 Jul 15:45: i thought that you have any honor, we didnt offend you any time, and when we started connetcing to the server, i apologized for the late, and when on server where 9 palyers (5 yours and 4 us) you wrote using console that u give our clan-member (EliminatoR) 1 minute to appear on the server, few seconds later he was on the server and the clanwar started we played hunt 5vs5 and won 12:2, because we have more than 2-years experience in mohaa and we know grenades to most places... after the hunt, something was wrong with server, and not everyone could coneected so you decided to play 4 against 5, when u definitely lost the match, u started leaving the server, and last rounds u played in 2 , its not our problem that u dont know how to lose with honor now u r searching cheats in EliminatoR, but he dont know what it is a cheat, he did never use it and he and we would never use it in the future as we didnt use it in the past :) the only thing that justify yuor reaction (because EliminatoR is shocked that somebody can say that he is a cheater) is your pure knowledge guys about mohaa and dmw :/ for over 2 years playing mohaa there wasnt person who said "Rangers of Honor" are cheating :) we have very good reputation and any clan wouldnt destroy it !! Comment by J.Lo (RoH), 15 Jul 15:22: EliminatoR didn't have any opengl32.dll in his main folder, but in system C:\WINDOWS\system32 where it should be, the only problem is, that some people have the problem with dmw, that shows that this file (opengl32.dll) is invaild, so people from dmw made file to fix this problem, this file is known as dmwfix, and EliminatoR who was reinstalling his system was in hurry and forgot to fix this file !! it's all what i have to say... :/ i want to say that many people have this problem, including myself, if you dont know about this problem with dmw ask any SV about it :p Comment by Goatrider, 15 Jul 13:33: Supahman wrote: UC noobs. Very friendly indeed. Nice attitude as well. Kaltoman wrote: The match was set on 21.00 and we were late Funny you don't mention HOW late you guys were. At 21:45 the war could finally start, so be glad we didn't fill in a no show (already allowed after 10 minutes, with no sign of a Ranger of Honor). You guys weren't on MSN, mIRC or anything. The deadline was long over before you guys showed up. Very nice that you mention we don't have to teach you about it in your e-mail, but apperantly, you guys have a lot to learn. Kaltoman wrote: That is why he didn't fix his dmw You should have fixed your MOHAA software before coming to the server. You can say anything about that opengl32 file, but for all we know, that is a hack. I don't see any proof that shows it isn't one. Funny, the only proof needed to convince us your CL didn't have a hack, is not placed in your report. Kaltoman wrote: (also see the green lights in the corners) Quickly removing cheats doesn't erase the previous facts. It's illegal to smuggle any drugs into your land. But if a criminal is caught with marihuana, he won't be considered innocent if he quickly throws it away and crosses the Polish border again, will he? Kaltoman wrote: not "some more rounds" like Goatrider was kind to write in his raport Try to read my report a little better and don't quote me falsely. I said WE played some more rounds. I didn't say you or your cheating friend played 'only' some more rounds. You knew perfectly well that it is all over after one enters a server with hacks. Kaltoman wrote: Eliminator's english is not wery well The leader of a clan should be able to communicate with other CL's. He should know English is preferred above Polish. And if you're the one that should be negotiated with, why didn't you add me on MSN (instead of sending an e-mail @ 2:17 :S) Kaltoman wrote: This is our answer sent on 2:17 Well, I usually don't check my mail @ 2:17 in the morning, because a man does need some sleep. I sent mine @ a descent time. A little late to send your response back, just as late as you entered the server. Kaltoman wrote: The problem came out after they where defeated The problem occurred after your dear CL showed up with hacks installed. Kaltoman wrote: They agreed to play the match When? We didn't say 'this war still counts after DMW detected hacks'. Kaltoman wrote: Unnamed Clan played the match hoping to win We didn't play a match. We played @ our server, for fun, since this could no longer be considered as a valid match. Comment by Supahman (RoH), 15 Jul 13:00: Hahahahah UC noobs. We are clean. Conflict started by Kaltoman (RoH), submitted on 15 Jul 15:20: Unnamed Clan accused us about cheating. "The match was set on 21.00 and we were late, because our CL Eliminator had to format his hard drive and reinstall system. He was still installing his MOHAA at 21.00 so he was in a big hurry not to loose a match by 'no show'. That is why he didn't fix his dmw by switching his opengl32.dll file to a proper one. After connecting to UC's server DMW Scanner kicked him out. http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_hack1.jpg After that Eliminator restarted his system in a sefe mode, switched proper opengl32 file, and conected to the server once again without any problems, just like the instruction of dmwfix says. It all happened BEFORE the clanwar started. After that we've waited for the rest of the teams and than we've started the clanwar at about 21:30 without any comments or doubts from UC. Eliminator played the whole match, not "some more rounds" like Goatrider (UC's CL) wrote in his raport, without any problems and with a green DMW light in a corner. His DMW was activated all the time. screen taken by UC: http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/opengll.jpg On the screen above You can see that DMW was activated all the time long before and during the match, there was only one situation when Eliminator's opengl32 file was detected before match (explained above), and the whole match was clean. The screen was taken right after finishing the match (You can see the time in the corner and the list of player equal with the screen of the last result: http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/v2_axis.jpg After the match UC's CL - Goatrider contacted our CL Eliminator by MSN and accused him about cheating depending on situation I wrote above about. After that he also sent an email trying to frighten us and proposing 'no show' and 1-0 score instead of accusing Eliminator about cheating. http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_preventconflict1.jpg Everybody knows about problems with dmwfix and switching opengl32.dl. Eliminator didn't switch it after formating c: and reinstalling system, but he did it before the match has started. We think that after loosing match 23 round to 5 UC decided to try to win match in other way by accusing RoH about cheting. They waited until the end of clanwar because they hoped to win the match. They agreed to play the match and there was no problem during the match. The problem came out after they where defeated. Here are the results of the match from 2 different players (also see the green lights in the corners): http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/hunt_axis.jpg http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/hunt_allies.jpg http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/v2_allies.jpg http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/v2_axis.jpg We've been playin MOHAA for over 2 years and we were never accused about cheating. Unnamed Clan played the match hoping to win, and after beeing defeated in fair fight they try to win other way. And still there is no proof of cheating, no demos and no screens taken during the match except those that shows that Eliminator was clean." What we've done to solve ourself: "After the match UC's CL - Goatrider contacted our CL Eliminator by MSN and accused him about cheating depending on situation I wrote above about. Screens taken bo UC: http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_preventconflict2.jpg http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_preventconflict4.jpg After that he also sent an email trying to frighten us and proposing 'no show' and 1-0 score instead of accusing Eliminator about cheating and a match conflict. http://members.lycos.nl/unnamedclan2006/roh_preventconflict1.jpg As you can Probably see, Eliminator is not wery good at English so he wasn't able to discuss problem with Goatrider. He has contacted me, and after that I answered to Goatrider email: http://www.olsztynognia.internetdsl.pl/obrazki/preventconflict_1.jpg Unfortunately we had no more reply from UC, but this morning we have found an official accusing about cheating in match raport." Claim: "Score 23-5 for us" Match Match between UC more and RoH more 14 Jul 21:00. Ladder: MoH Obj Real rules UC lost from RoH. round: 5 against 23 Matchrules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Scoring system: Maximum rounds CKR realism mod: CKR 1.1 Decision by Cain "The openGL32.dll is a well known bug in DMW that after 6 months they have still not fixed. In some versions of moh you have to replace your openGL file in order to work with DMW. If he came back and is clean then its more then likely this is the case. As it is a well known bug there is no proof of a hack. Result of 23-5 to RoH stands." Official war Unnamed Clan against Warspot 16 July 2004, 2100h Won with 15 against 13 Levels: The Hunt/V2 Rocket Facility Server: Yours Ladder: MoH Obj Real Benelux Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Report by Goatrider: Line-up: >UC<: Goatrider Mannetj# Konijntjuh^ / Kippetje F3Bi^ Layzie W#sPoT: Freaker FleeXiT D@rK^ GaLliEr^ nFnZ-> Scores: The Hunt: UC Allies 0 - Warspot Axis 7 UC Axis 7 - Warspot Allies 0 V2: UC Allies 3 - Warspot Axis 4 UC Axis 5 - Warspot Allies 2 TOTAL SCORE: 15-13 Story: Because Carlito and Scorsese needed to be @ some stupid family visitation, the planned 7on7 became a 5on5. Besides that, only 2 hardcore UC members participated in this war. We won the bash and started as Allies. Warspot used a nice tactic which I hadn't seen before. A lot of their players made small rushes, and camped on places like behind small walls in the ruins, the house on the corner and sometimes they camped in the bathtub house and didn't show themselves until we were about to rush into the second part of the village. Although there weren't much nade rains, Warspot threw their nades with such precision that almost everytime 2 of our guys were blown away. Nonetheless, it came to a 1on1 quite some times. In the third and fourth round, only Mannetje was left alive. And although he respectively made three and two kills, he failed to win the round. During the match, the Warspot guys were camping further back into the map, but they could hold us off every round. Only the last round was exciting with Febi facing Freaker @ the canon, but again Warspot remained calm and managed to win all rounds. But after we switched teams, Warspot found out we too had some qualities. What about an excellent sniper and a rusher who had the luck to be spawned in the spearhead almost every round? In the first round, Layzie rushed to the Allied spawnpoint and took out 3 enemies, leaving the rest to Febi who could easily snipe them out of windows. Almost every round it went like this and when it went wrong, Mannetj# often solved the problem. Konijntjuh and Goatrider didn't have much to do I can tell you that . However, the sixth round would turn out to be giving an extra damper on Warspot's defeat in this war. Only Goatrider was left against D@rK, and he didn't have the smallest idea where that Warspot guy could be. D@rK managed to breach the parameter, but needed so much time to get there, he only had 20 seconds to find the canon and activate the explosions. Half of the UC teamm8's told Goat to stay back and wait, because D@rK would never make it to the bomb. But the other half screamed to Goat that he should attack, because there would be just enough time for D@rK to activate the bomb. And well, actually he had enough time. He placed the explosives 1,5 before the end of the round, in spite of that the server granted victory to UC! Kills: Layzie 16 (a nice recover after only 1 kill as Allies don't you think? :P) Febi 13 Mannetje 12 Goat 7 Konijntjuh 2 -------------- Freaker 8 Gallier 8 Nfnz 8 Fleexit 5 Dark 4 In the break between the maps, Konijntjuh was switched for Kippetje, because according to him he couldn't play anymore due to his f*cked up mouse. So another KINGS m8 joined the team. And we all know what that means: rush2win! As Allies we started very well, we won the first two rounds with some nice rushing. After that, the Warspot guys got the chance to take their positions and it all became much harder. Still, we should have won a lot more than three rounds, but lack of teamwork caused a lot of lives and chances. Luckily we made up for that as Axis. Well at least, the other guys did. I camped all the way into the back and let them do all the work. Although Layzie was constantly rushing and died very quickly, he could take a whole bunch of Allies with him. Febi mostly camped but even then he managed to kill the most enemies. Mannetje took his chance to use his secret hidingplaces and it workd out fine . Kippetje did his job well as a replacement. Then, there was that count mistake of Goatrider: after we won 4 rounds as Axis, he thought we already won the war. So instead of using our unusual campingspots we rushed down the stairs en on to the Allied spawnpoint. Then Goat realized we had to win one more round before we could start fooling around! Luckily our minds could switch to campingmode again, and we won the match! Kills: Febi 18 Layzie 14 Mannetje 10 Kip 8 Goat 5 -------------- Nfnz 10 Freaker 4 Fleexit 4 Dark 3 Gallier 3 I was surprised of the great sportsmanship of Warspot. I hadn't heard from them before, but they seem experienced guys and the war went without any problems. It was nice of them to arrange a server on such short notice. They knew a few guys from our team, so the whole atmosphere of the match was very pleasant. Although they had nice defending positions, they couldn't carry through with their owning. We had the advantage of a sniper. On the other hand we made some stupid tactial mistakes in V2 (bad teamwork etc) and that resulted in some more lost rounds. In the end, I think 15-13 is the right score for this match. A rematch anytime, guys! Greetz, Goatrider Comment by Freaker (W#sPoT), 18 Jul 10:52: beautiful report thx , it was a very nice war indeed !!! Comment by nFnZ-> (W#sPoT), 17 Jul 22:40: lol nice report, gg Comment by Carlito, 17 Jul 17:48: next time ill be there! sorry I had to do some stuff it was my birthday and there was famely enshit Official war Unnamed Clan against Made In Holland 17 July 2004, 2100h Draw with 14 against 14 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: MIH Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: Yes Notes: - 5x5 players - 4x7 rounds - 1 sniper - 0 shotgun/rockets - Latest DMW - screenshots if asked - FF = off - have fun":) Report by =MIH= [ Arito ]: Well, again a game we "should've" won, a shame I crashed in the (what later turned out to be) decisive round. Hope I'll won't crash as much next time... We had good actions and very, very unco-ordinated play but all in all a fun match and I guess a tie was all that was meant to be tonught... GG, =MIH= Line-up: Dr. Dre, Hendriks, Chaz, BoOoM, Dutch, Arito ----- Standard Message: If you want the status screenie contact me on: msn: arito@wanadoo.nl mail: arito@tiscali.nl ----- Report by Carlito: UC line up: Scorsese, Carlito, Febi, Kippetje, Haseboz & mannetje/Layzie! just like Arito said we should have won this one:P we really played bad in Hunt, there was No teamwork what so ever! V2 went better but we still managed to lose one round while playing the axis side. MIH really nice opponent. thanks for waiting in the beginning of the war, the wheather was terrible and the thunder made my TV crash. so I asked for a 30 min break. merci beaucoup! Cya Guy's in a rematch. Comment by =MIH= [ Arito ], 18 Jul 22:07: Next time wait like we did for you if I crash in the beginning of the round again plz ty! Comment by =MIH=[CL][ Ch@z ], 18 Jul 19:31: please goat, grow a brain! Comment by Carlito, 18 Jul 13:22: hahahaha WP MIH! Comment by =MIH= [ Arito ], 18 Jul 12:24: unnamedclan 2 blaaat! Comment by Goatrider, 18 Jul 00:50: 12 November 2003, 2000h Won with 16 against 04 16 April 2004, 2100h Won with 15 against 13 10 Mei 2004, 2130h Won with 16 against 12 17 Juli 2004, 2100h Draw with 14 against 14 No need to feel bad MIH, you're getting closer to a victory! :P (Dre, this is your cue to say: unnamedclan 2 blaaat) Official war Unnamed Clan against #G-Force > [MoH:AA - Clan] 18 July 2004, 1345h Lost with 16 against 12 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: G-Force Ladder: MoH Obj Real 2on2 Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: Yes Notes: Cup rules but ff = off NO REPORT AVAILABLE Official war Unnamed Clan against |BEWARE||28th| 18 July 2004, 2100h Lost with 12 against 16 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: UC, BWR dunno Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: Yes Notes: - Latest DMW (Als bs er is) - Screens if asked (waasch niet dus) - 4x7 rounds - 1 sniper - 0 shotguns - 0 rockets - 2 patat met - 3 coca cola - have fun - owjah FF = Off!!!! <-- because we are TK n44bs merci beaucoup! Report by Carlito: yes it was a close war! nice defending @ beware side. we were unlucky sometimes... WTK @ hunt jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh rush2win! but we lost! shit happens. GG beware rematch soon! UC line up: >UC< Scorsese >UC< Emperor >UC< Ha$eBoz<< >UC< Billi_B >UC< Carlito Report by |BEWARE|Tarantino: Always like to play against cool clans like uc. U know sportmanship is high and so is the tension. This was also a really close game. UC did not give much away at axis (1round) so it was a hard game. Luckily for us we held them 2 times @ 0 at axis. It could have gone either way but it went ours. 16-12 GG! Line up: Rikkie Taran Massie Goof Revo Comment by Carlito, 20 Jul 18:23: Yes we should! Comment by |BEWARE|Tarantino, 19 Jul 13:00: HAhaa you should not have won ;) Comment by Goatrider, 19 Jul 02:00: We should have won. GG like always BEWARE! (y)(y) Official war Unnamed Clan against The MAD DOG Clan 20 July 2004, 2000h Won with 12 against 16 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: MD: 213.201.217.180:1 Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No The following demo of this war is available for download: The MAD DOG Clan x Unnamed Clan Report by Miss Joyce! (The MAD DOG Clan): GG Report by Carlito: >UC< Line up: >UC< Scorsese >UC< BS^ >UC< Konijntjuhhhh! >UC< Kampeergaaaaast >UC< Carlito score's: Hunt: UC allies 3 - 4 axis MD UC axis 5 - 2 allies MD UC 8 - 6 MD V2: UC axis 5 - 2 allies MD UC allies 3 - 4 axis MD UC 8 - 6 MD total: UC 16 - 12 MD GG! Comment by BS^ ([KINGS]), 21 Jul 18:59: demo availible now :D Official war: Unnamed Clan against furious.Gaming 20 July 2004, 2300h Lost with 16 against 12 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: fG! Ladder: MoH Obj Real Benelux Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: ckr 1.1, ff on, 1 sniper, 0 rl, 0 sg, 4x7 rounds, dmw3. Report by zrcntrl.uk (furious.Gaming): gg :P Report by Carlito: >UC< Line up: >UC< Evilpoop >UC< Febi >UC< Billi_B >UC< Carlito (Ttino) GG rematch soon! Official war: Unnamed Clan against BrotherHood Of Honor Core Team 21 July 2004, 2030h Lost with 15 against 13 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: 1 sniper, no rl or sg....if ping out wait next round....have fun 4x7 rounds NO REPORT AVAILABLE Official war Unnamed Clan against medic ! 23 July 2004, 1045h Lost with 17 against 11 Levels: The Bridge/V2 Rocket Facility Server: Medic Clanserver Ladder: MoH Obj Real 2on2 Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: After challenge:) cuprules:O Report by [ + ] HellZ: gg Official war Unnamed Clan against 2Div War Of Outlaws 26 July 2004, 2200h Won with 09 against 19 Levels: V2 Rocket Facility/The Hunt Server: War Of Outlaws Server Ladder: MoH Obj Real Benelux Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: - 4x7 rounds - 5on5 (more if both clans agree) - 1 sniper (if more players, more snipers can be discussed) - 0 shotgun/rockets - FF = OFF - Latest DMW - screenshots if asked! contact: irc.quakenet.org #wooclan NO REPORT AVAILABLE Official war Unnamed Clan against X-Style Alpha Squad 27 July 2004, 2145h Won with 13 against 15 Levels: The Bridge/V2 Rocket Facility Server: Xstyle Ladder: MoH Obj Real 2on2 Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Notes: 4vs4:) FF = off 1 sniper 0 shotguns 0 rockets 4x7 rounds nice war:) NO REPORT AVAILABLE Official war Unnamed Clan against furious.Gaming 29 July 2004, 2100h Lost with 10 against 18 Levels: The Hunt/V2 Rocket Facility Server: fG! or UC Players: 5 x 5 Ladder: MoH Obj Real Europe Rules: Anti-Cheat:: DMW 2 Screenshots Required?: No Report by fG! - GlaCiu[Z]: I did not play in this was so i have no idea. How it went.But last time we played UC it was a really good game. so i guess it was the same now :) cheers guys. match another day soon :) Report by Goatrider: Line-up: >UC<: Goatrider Mannetj# Kampeergast K!ppetje fG!: Genocide Firestorm Wrighty rAfAel Scores: The Hunt: UC Axis 4 - fG Allies 3 UC Allies 0 - fG Axis 7 V2: UC Allies 2 - fG Axis 5 UC Axis 4 - fG Allies 3 TOTAL SCORE: 10-18 Story: A mice match, but we sucked big time. One of our players couldn't connect to the server of fG, so we played the match on ours. We didn't have 5 players (Layzie was too layzie to show up and Maffia had already gone), but it looked like they too had only 4 (they never said anything about that :O). Our defence sucked, since we didn't have a sniper this time to hold the Allies off. It came down to nice teamwork in the village and church, which we didn't have. Add the delay in TS 2 lose, and the score of 4-3 is all we deserved. We couldn't do anything as Allies, because the fG guys rushed so hard that we got scared. Add all the nades on our heads and the cross eyed actions of our players, and the score of 7-0 couldn't be more right. Kills: Man 12 [1 triple kill as Axis] Goat 8 gast 5 Kip 4 --------- rAfAel 21 [2 WTK's and 1 triple kill] Genocide 10 Firestorm 10 [1 triple kill] Wrighty 5 In V2 we got owned some more while playing Allies. Two of fG guys camped way in the back, while the other two waited for us in front of the map. It paid off, and they won the necessary 5 rounds to win the entire match. We could still win two rounds, but it did'n't matter anymore. Since the match was lost already, we began rushing after switching teams, so we could at least have some fun. That explains the three rounds we lost as Axis. Kills: gast 10 [1 triple kill] Goat 9 Kip 9 Man 6 -------- rAfAel 16 [1 triple kill] Firestorm 16 [1 triple kill] Genocide 8 Wrighty 4 We didn't complain about the problems with the FG server, and they didn't complain when we asked them to play 4on4 on ours. GG, but we sucked a$$, so rematch soon with a better line-up 2 win! Greetz, Goatrider |
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