NewsGroups
The Newsgroups Page

Hi! For those brawling with their News clients, this page contains:
a Quick Example of how to
Add a news server and Subscribe
to a
newsgroup (with both NS and IE news); and

Detailed Explanations of adding news servers
for:
MSIE News
MSN (and enabling Full/Adult access)
the Symantec Suppport newsgroup, and
JA list of Free & Public News Servers you can add J
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Two quick
Examples of
subscribing
with both

Here's an example of
  • adding a server, and
  • subscribing to, say, the newsgroup alt.ascii.art
with BOTH browsers -
 
Netscape,

  and ...


In Netscape 3/GOLD:
  • copy: Demonews.mindspring.com
  • In NS News, choose menu items:
      File | Open new Host
      and (CTRL+V to) Paste
Netscape now starts downloading the list of newsgroups available on that server. But it tells you how many k downloaded (which is useless, because you want to know how many newsgroups there are in the listing, not how big the text file of them is :)) ).

    Netscape will not Filter this list for you, and there are about 25,000 NGs!

    So you have to scroll and select all the way down to:

  • click the PLUS sign beside the folder.
    • Now scroll through the folders to find the alt. folder, then
    • scroll through the new list of folders again to find alt.ascii.art and click on it!
DONE!!! :))

 
MS IE News
And with the Internet Explorer News Client:
  • copy: Demonews.mindspring.com
  • in IE News, choose menu items:
      News | Options | Server | Add
      and (CTRL+V to) Paste

  • click the "Connection" tab
    • select "I use a modem" (and your ISP connection should become the default; if not, select it too)
    • tick "automatically connect to this server"

    Click the "Advanced" tab

    • tick "Use newsgroup descriptions"
      [this is optional, but very helpful]

  • click "Apply"
  • click "OK"
And That's it!!! :))

IE starts downloading the list of available NGs,
and tells you that there's about 25,000!

To FILTER so many newsgroups down to what YOU want,

  • click the Newsgroups icon
  • click the icon of the server you just added
    (and the full list of newsgroups comes up)

  • Click in the Box: "Display newsgroups which contain:"
  • start typing: alt.ascii.art
      watch what happens after you type EACH letter:
      by the time you type: alt.as
      there will be only ten in the list!

  • click on the alt.ascii.art
  • click the Subscribe button.

That's it! ENJOY!!! :))

 
What's alt.ascii.art anyhow?
Why ascii art?
To do this:
Remember, that to display ascii art, you have to change the default proportional font to a fixed width font (eg Courier).

Ascii Art Created by:
-joan
spunk1111@juno.com
http://www.oocities.org/SoHo/7373/


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  Detailed Examples

of

subscribing

to:

 
Overview
[Newsgroups allow you access to generous and well-informed people,
from all over the world. These IE tips are courtesy of Stone Free:
]

Subscribing to

[In General]
With "MS Internet News", the following 5 steps ("a" thru "e") are needed to set-up ANY newsgroup "Server". You will use all of these steps for each of the newgroups you're going to set-up.

If you have one or more of these servers/newsgroups already set-up, this may be a good time to copy down all the settings for each one - or just print this posting.

These Are the First 5 Steps Required To Set Up Each Newsgroup's "Server"
a) Launch "Internet News" (unless it's already running).
b) Click on "News" (on the titlebar).
c) Click on "Options"
d) Click on the "Server" tab.
e) Click on the "Add" button.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        --==Stone Free==--
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 
the MS Internet Explorer Newsgroup,
Newsgroup 1: msnews.microsoft.com (Thanks Stone Free J)
(When you install "MS Internet News" this sever is set up as the "default" server, but you can set up ANY server as your "default" - depending on what newsgroups and sites you want to visit most. However, just leave it as the "default" server for now, so that you can get some other servers & newsgroups up and running).

"GENERAL" Tab:

  • Follow steps "a" thru "e" listed above.
  • In the "News Server Name" box, type in msnews.microsoft.com.
  • The "This Server Requires Me To Logon" box should be blank or "greyed-out".
  • Under the "Logon Settings" heading, both radio buttons should be blank.
  • "newer users" should click on the "Set As Default" button, unless it's already "greyed-out".

"CONNECTION" Tab:

  • The "I use a modem to access my newsgroups" radio button must have a dot in it.
  • In the "Use The Following Dial-Up Networking Connection" box, "The Microsoft Network" must appear.
  • The "Automatically Connect To This Server" box must be checked.

"ADVANCED" Tab:

  • Under the "Server Port Number" heading, the "News Server" box must have the number "119" in it.
  • Leave the "This server requires a secure connection" box blank.
  • Under the "Descriptions" heading, the "Use Newsgroup Descriptions" box can be empty or checked. This is a personal prefrence choice.
  • Lastly, hit the "Apply" button.

 
  the
MicroSoft
Network
MSN News
(for those
with
accounts),
  Newsgroup 2: msnnews.msn.com (Thanks Stone Free J)
(You must be a member of MSN to access this server)

"GENERAL" Tab:

  • Follow steps "a" thru "e" listed above.
  • In the "News Server Name" box, type in msnnews.msn.com.
  • The "This Server Requires Me To Logon" box must be checked.
  • Under the "Logon Settings" heading, the "Logon using secure password authentication" radio button must have a dot in it.

"CONNECTION" Tab:

  • The "I use a modem to access my newsgroups" radio button must have a dot in it.
  • In the "Use The Following Dial-Up Networking Connection" box, "The Microsoft Network" must appear.
  • The "Automatically Connect To This Server" box must be checked.

"ADVANCED" Tab:

  • Under the "Server Port Number" heading, the "News Server" box must have the number "119" in it.
  • Leave the "This server requires a secure connection" box blank.
  • Under the "Descriptions" heading, the "Use Newsgroup Descriptions" box can be empty or checked. This is a personal prefrence choice.
  • Lastly, hit the "Apply" button.

 
  the
MicroSoft
Network
MSN
NetNews
(for those
with
accounts),
  Newsgroup 3: netnews.msn.com (Thanks Stone Free J)
(You must be a member of MSN to access this server)

"GENERAL" Tab:

  • Follow steps "a" thru "e" listed above.
  • In the "News Server Name" box, type in netnews.msn.com.
  • The "This Server Requires Me To Logon" box must be checked.
  • Under the "Logon Settings" heading, the "Logon using secure password authentication" radio button must have a dot in it.

"CONNECTION" Tab:

  • The "I use a modem to access my newsgroups" radio button must have a dot in it.
  • In the "Use The Following Dial-Up Networking Connection" box, "The Microsoft Network" must appear.
  • The "Automatically Connect To This Server" box must be checked.

"ADVANCED" Tab:

  • Under the "Server Port Number" heading, the "News Server" box must have the number "119" in it.
  • Leave the "This server requires a secure connection" box blank.
  • Under the "Descriptions" heading, the "Use Newsgroup Descriptions" box can be empty or checked. This is a personal prefrence choice.
  • Lastly, hit the "Apply" button.

 
  the
MicroSoft
Network
MSN
Full/Adult
access (for those with
accounts),
  To access the MSN "adult" newsgroups, (the "alt.binary" stuff), you must get the "token" from MSN by requesting "full access". If you want to have access to them, here's how:
  • Logon with "Internet Explorer 3.0x".
  • Click on "Essentials"
  • Click on "MSN Classic & Custom Page".
  • Click on "Classic Categories" (may take a minute to load).
  • Click on "Internet Center".
  • Click on "Internet Newsgroups".
  • Click on "Full Newsgroup & Adult Access".
  • Click on "Full Newsgroups Access Eform".
  • Follow instructions on the screen.
If you cannot get connected to "Classic MSN" (site busy, net traffic, etc.) just type in the site (listed below) into your "address bar" then hit <Enter>. Do NOT include "http", "www", or any other prefix .. just type it EXACTLY as shown .. MSN:1:194246:0:0

 
  the
Symantec
Support
Newsgroups
  Newsgroup 4: service.symantec.com (Thanks Stone Free J)
(support for Symantec products: ie. Norton Utilities, Norton Antivirus, etc.)

"GENERAL" Tab:

  • Follow steps "a" thru "e" listed above.
  • In the "News Server Name" box, type in service.symantec.com.
  • The "This Server Requires Me To Log On" box, must be blank.
  • Under the "Logon Settings" heading, both radio buttons must be blank or "greyed-out".

"CONNECTION" Tab:

  • The "I use a modem to access my newsgroups" radio button must have a dot in it.
  • In the "Use The Following Dial-Up Networking Connection" box, "The Microsoft Network" must appear.
  • The "Automatically Connect To This Server" box must be checked.

"ADVANCED" Tab:

  • Under the "Server Port Number" heading, the "News Server" box must have the number "119" in it.
  • The "This server requires a secure connection" box must be blank.
  • Under the "Descriptions" heading, the "Use Newsgroup Descriptions" box can be empty or checked. This is a personal prefrence choice.
  • Lastly, hit the "Apply" button.
** Notes: In case you're still having trouble re-subscribing, you must be a member of MSN to access the "msnnews.msn.com" and "netnews.msn.com" servers.

Well, that's it! You should be all connected!


 
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  Free and
Public News
Servers

There are lots of news services you can get if you want to PAY for them, and other (more limited and censored collections) usually come with your ISP.

But why pay when there are Free and Public News Servers covering everything you could possibly image, and then some?

Here, try these (using the methods above to Add their server).

The 86 servers listed here are copied from a collection by Kjetil Manheim in Oslo: http://login.eunet.no/~kjetilm/news.htm
and according to the author, were last updated 16 August 1997.

It's still worth a trip to Kjetil's site, both for it's own worth, and because there are also links from that page alone, to another nine sites full of public news server links and helpful advice ;)

Try the front door at: http://login.eunet.no/~kjetilm/index.html
It's no accident that this guy has over 73,000 hits!


 
144.16.1.1
adenine.c.dna.affrc.go.jp
aeon.net
aiva.aiva.lt
alpha.dice.dlinc.com
cc.owu.edu
Ciril.fr
cyberbury.net
Demonews.mindspring.com
dmbsdi.datamar.com.ar
fconvx.ncifcrf.gov
freenet.hut.fi
Golden-gate.owl.de
Gudmund.vgs.no
helka.iif.hu
Info.evansville.net
ironhorse.plsys.co.uk
kitimat.sno.net
kronos.fmi.fi
lace.colorado.edu
lafsun.lafayette.edu
lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu
lehi.kuentos.guam.net
leol.net-link.net
loki.asymetrix.com
lut.fi
Magnet.mt
mailman.osi.com
masala.cc.uh.edu
master.sapien.net
mikasa.iol.it
morzine.ciger.be
nbisrv.nbi.dk
nerd.apk.net
news.bconnex.net
news.bessy.de
news.csie.nctu.edu.tw
news.dma.be
news.easy.de
news.free.de
news.funet.fi
news.gdbnet.ad.jp
news.gfk.de
207.70.214.200
news.ict.pwr.wroc.pl
news.ifcss.org
news.ifmo.ru
news.jmu.edu
news.kaist.ac.kr
news.kcstar.com
news.lander.es
news.man.torun.pl
news.mtt.net
news.nask.pl
news.netconnect.com.au
news.nrk.no
news.nuri.net
news.palm.cri.nz
news.phil.uni-sb.de
news.sztaki.hu
news.thur.de
news.tu-ilmenau.de
news.unb.ca
news.uni-hohenheim.de
news.uni-stuttgart.de
news.vol.it
news.waycom.fr
newshost.cs.dal.ca
newshost.gu.edu.au
newshound.csrv.uidaho.edu
newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu
nntp.nta.no
oravannahka.Helsinki.FI
osiris.wu-wien.ac.at
phoenix.svri.com
piggy.rz.tu-ilmenau.de
Pornstorm.eit.com
red.pvda.nl
ryujin.center.wakayama-u.ac.jp
shadows.aeon.net
skarjeke.ind.mh.se
snoop2.cia.com.au
usenet.seri.re.kr
virgin.usvi.net
wisipc.weizmann.ac.il
your.mother.com


Need more?
Well, perhaps you might. Besides shopping around to cover different topics (and in different languages), the servers may come and go:
as soon as people find one that works, they race in and huge numbers of hits can swamp some of them.

There are also 153 listings of public news servers
rated for speed, at:

(check the bottom of the page for the "Last automatic update");

as well as a list of public news servers "updated every few weeks" at:

That should do it!
ENJOY!!!


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