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Military Cemetery, Normandy, France (Present Day)
On
Omaha Beach, Normandy, June 6, 1944 -- 0630 Hours
At
the Farm House
In
the Countryside
In
A Village
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In
the Town
[01:45:30 into the movie]
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At the part when Ryan and Miller had no ammo and the were throwing mortar rounds, Miller had a rack of gernades on his back.
J Odendahl
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The most obvious error in the town, to my mind, is in Hank's preparation for the German assault. For some unimaginable reason Hanks positioned the ammo across the street and downstairs far away from either machine gun. He had plenty of time to put that ammo right beside the weapons. Struck me as quite a stupid move.
Chick Lewis
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In one scene, an M1 is shown angled up to the right.
It has no front sight. In another scene, one can distinctly see the
rear sight of another M1. It has no rear sight cover or aperture. Kind
of difficult to aim an M1 in either circumstance. I know this may be
rather picky, but it sure stood out to this old Marine's eyes. Gus
Fisher
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I thought the movie was great
and accurate enough for a war movie, especially 50+ years after the fact.
The mistake that grabbed me was when the wimp writer was on the stairs
with the ammo belt there wasn't a body left there after being shot through
the wall by the Jewish soldier!
Dan Williams
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Two men yell from the top of
the tower what they see. One of the things they spot is a German "Panzer"
tank. No such tank existed. Panzer meant armor in German, it was not the
name of a tank. The closest might have been a Panther, or a Tiger.
xavier14
- [Reply to xavier14:I think he says "Hazard tanks" and Jackson makes a triangle shape with his hands to indicate "Hazard".
C O M A
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How come they use sticky bombs
to disable the first tiger in the battle for Ramelle, when they have two
perfectly good Bazooka's at their disposal (as said in the weapon check
scene)? Okay, a Bazooka might not pack the punch to destroy a Tiger, but
a round or two in the tracks would surely cripple it so much easier than
trying to stick explosives to its wheels.
R van
Nooij
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In the final battle scene I
don't recall any MG-42s being fired. Did they get killed on their stroll
down the middle road of an enemy held town? When I was in the infantry,
we moved from building to building. The armor didn't roll until we had
the flanks covered at least. Of course the movie's battle hardened SS troops
must know something I don't.
Charles Ellis
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Did anyone notice that the last
rounds fired from the .30 in the tower were from a disintegrating link
belt? K Shigemitsu
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At the
end, the day is saved by "Tankbuster" aircraft. "Tankbuster" aircraft of
this period were usually RAF Typhoons or 9AF zens. But, I can forgive
the P-51s since they are at least an aircraft of the period. However, the
P-51s used are late model P-51Ds but the majority of P-51s at this time
(June 1944) were P-51Bs and/or early Ds. I can forgive that too since there
probably aren't too many of those around that are still airworthy. But
the checkerboard noses of the Mustangs are for the 78th FG in 1945 which
is entirely incorrect. (And furthermore the 78 FG were flying Thunderbolts
during the D-Day landings).
J Strickland
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When the
Capt. and his men arrive in the town, which has been defended for days,
Miller is given a sitrep, and shown all of the equipment - WHICH IS LYING
COVERED IN SOME DUMB ROOM AND NOT EVEN DEPLOYED!!! Ha ha. Schultz
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In the
Remel scene where they're ambushing the Germans, why aren't there guys
on the roofs of the buildings? They would have been able to provide cover
fire and the only real danger would have been from a tank. They also should
have concentrated on the tanks and then the troops because at the end they
were being plagued by marauding tanks driving through the streets. Donna
Fallon
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I noticed,
that in the final battle, when they're waiting for the tanks and infantry
to arrive, you can see the tank turret poking out slightly from the edge
of the rubble on the left.. and it's like, blatantly staying there for
a long time?! As if waiting for a signal from the director to move round,
but you can obviously see it there. Chris
Ryan
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When the
rangers meet up with the 101st after blowing up the half-track, the 101st
soldier tells the Rangers that the half-track belonged to the 2nd SS division.
The problem is that The 2nd SS "Das Reich" division wasn't in France at
that time. Only on June 23rd did any elements of that division even arrive
in France. The first week in July, their tanks arrived. The SS division
attacking in the scene could not be 2nd SS Panzer Group, because that group
didn't have any Panzers at that time. Bill
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I agree. At Remel the attacking
Germans are supposed to be from the 2nd SS Panzer Division. This division
was nowhere near that part of the front.
Djcentore
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The 101st
soldier in the last scene tells the Rangers that they are expecting the
2nd SS division to attack. The Tiger tank has the insignia of the 1st SS
division. The problem is that neither division was in the American sectors
in France.
Bill
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During
the battle in Remel, when the first Tiger is knocked out and all the GIs
storm it, they toss grenades through the hatch and yet there is no explosion.
This is f***ed up because all of them stay on the tank and get blasted
apart by the 20mm when instead they should have dove for cover. But then
the tank doesn't explode. (I guess someone forgot to pull the pin!!! hahaha)
Tom
L
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[Reply
to Tom L: Tanks don’t blow up simply because
you toss some hand grenades inside of them unless the ammo is set off.
There would of course be an explosion, shredding the crew to bits. Snafu]
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[Reply
to Tom L: In WW2 the Americans didn't
really have a tank until late in the war that could rival the German tanks
because of their thick armor. So, that would explain why their was no sound
when the German tank was assaulted in the town of Remel and nobody was
jumping for cover. Blake Broadway]
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Doesn't
the commanders hatch lock from the inside of a Tiger Tank? US troops just
open it up and throw in grenades! cwlu44
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Why didn't
they set up the charges in one of the buildings on the far side to the
bridge--way before the battle started. They could have put Ryan and Upham
in there with orders to blow it if any Germans threatened to cross. Then
both Ryan and the bridge would have been protected. They certainly had
more than enough time to do this with all the time they spent lounging
around listening to Edith Paif! T. Locker
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Near the
end of the film around the ruined city, two Americans take refugee in a
building with a staircase from the street leading up to a small room. I
can't remember if there was ONE or TWO Americans. One of them hears footsteps
on the stairs coming into the room. He calls out to the person but got
no answer so he fires a round into the wall. There is some blood then the
sound of a body falling. Later, a German enters the room, fights and kills
the American. The German then goes down the stairs and SQUEEZES past another
American on the way up... where's the dead body??? It's not at the foot
of the stairs as far as I can see! Glen
D
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During
the final scene (Remel village) the AFV that destroys the tower and kills
Jackson et al, is a Marder III. With distance it is positioned from the
tower (say 250 yards or so) there is no way the gun could elevate to strike
the tower where it does. One of the problems with those SP gun platforms
was the limited traverse and elevation of the main armament. In fact, within
German armored divisions at that time of the war, the Stug II would have
been the most common infantry support weapon. Not the Marder. B.
Guynan
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[Reply
to B Gunyan: Firstly there was no such vehicle as the Stug II...
assuming you mean the Stug III, then you are correct about this being the
most used vehicle, but this does not stop a small number of Marder III's
from serving with various forces. At this stage of the war an entire armored
division in the west (21st) fought the British using mostly rebuilt French
equipment. Also one of the largest recipients of the Marder III were SS
units.
Neil Holmes]
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[Reply
to B. Guynan: The most "common" infantry
support weapon in 1944 was the replacement for the Sturmgeschutz III 42,
the Geschutzwagon 38 in SS divisions, the Stug II being obsolete in 1942.
And the later Sturmgeschutz III and IV versions, along w/ any Sturmgeschutz
II's left (after being rebarreled) having more of a "tank destroyer" role
(lessons learned on the East front). Besides, the Marder's were Antitank
weapons and the SS Waffen Panzer Divisions were updated in late 43-44 w/
the Jagdpanzer IV or Jagdpanzer IV 70 as their primary Armored Antitank
weapons. An "A" formation like the 2 SS would be the first to be updated
as were usually all the SS formations w/ new equipment. And also, the 2nd
SS "Das Reich" wasn't fully operational in France till the end of July
of that year. Buddy R]
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During
the fight for the bridge, the two self propelled guns would not have advanced
into the town. They would have sat back and blasted every building with
American soldiers in it. The movie also makes the German army look ill-trained
when, in fact, they were very good soldiers. Leslie
T
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When the
American gets blown up by his sticky bomb the fuse was still a good ten
inches long and blew in about 10 seconds. When Miller tells the next two
to light their bombs about three minutes goes by before they actually get
to the tank. And the fuses never get smaller! Marksmenmd
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This error
is when Tom Hanks really finds Private Ryan in the field. After Ryan shoots
the half-track with his bazooka the first time and causes damage to the
half-track. You can hear the motor strain under the damage inflicted and
it is a powerful weapon. The second shot stops it cold. Next, the crew
of the "German AP" (or anti personal half-track) gets spooked and runs
out knowing the enemy is close. Never going to happen! The half-track crew
has the advantage because of the height and MG-42's mounted to it. Plus
some half-tracks had flame-throwers built in. The crew doesn't even fire
a shot? They run out of the track and get machine-gunned dead by Toms Hanks?
I guess if the half-track did what it was designed to do Ryan, would have
been killed and then there's no movie. M.
Strazzella
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[Reply
to M. Strazzella: There could have been
major damage inside, or possibly a fire that they had to escape. S.
Blood]
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[Reply
to M. Strazzella: If I was in a halftrack
that just got hit twice, I sure as hell wouldn't stay in it. Jeremy
Waters]
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[Reply
to M. Strazzella: It is mechanized infantry
doctrine that you "dismount" when attacked. R
Anaya]
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[Reply
to M. Strazzella: By that time period
in the war, a lot of German soldiers did not know what their vehicles were
able to withstand due to lack of training and combat experience. The troops
might have been safe in the track even as it smoldered but the lack of
experience and knowledge proved costly. I've talked to crewmen that served
on U.S. Sherman tanks that would fire an incinerary round at Tiger Tanks,
setting the outside of the tank on fire. The crew was still safe inside,
but due to the lack of knowing what the tank would withstand, the crew
would get scared and jump out thinking the tank was going to blow up. So
when the crew of the Tiger would jump out, the Sherman would wait with
a 30 cal. and a few riflemen. STAHLHELM66]
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During
the street battle at the end of the movie, the American soldiers throw
AT LEAST 2 grenades into the hatch of the Tiger tank, yet it fails to explode!
WHY? With all the ammo and fuel onboard, surely these grenades would have
caused the tank to "brew up"! Were they dud grenades or something, we don't
even hear them explode! What a load of bollox! A.
Hodder
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[Reply
to A. Hodder: Just because you throw an
explosive near an explosive doesn't mean that they will ignite. In war
the oddest most unexplainable things happen. Jeremy
Waters]
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This is
about the 2x30 cals that they have in the final battle. Before the battle
(or after, I can't remember) they say that they have three machine gun
nests but clearly they only have enough weapons for two machine gun nests.
Brian
H.
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At the
end of the movie, Captain Miller is firing his pistol at the Tiger tank
and then it suddenly explodes followed a second or two by a Mustang flying
overhead. As the Mustang did not seem to be equipped with rocket racks,
one can only assume that it was dropping a bomb or bombs. In this case,
the Mustang would have surely flown past first followed by an explosion
later. In the movie, the Tank blows up first followed later by the plane
flying over. Not possible! Darren T
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During
the fight in the streets of 'Remel', CAPT. Miller grabs Ryan and pulls
him out of the way as a Tiger tank only 10-20 meters away fires the main
gun past them and into a building. The shot from the gun was not the hazard,
but the incredible muzzle blast from the 88mm would have knocked them down
and possibly killed them and anyone next to them. A lot of movies ignore
this fact, anyway. Hans Hull
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When the
BAR guy takes up a position in front of the Tiger tank and before he moves
towards Ryan to pull him out of harms way, for only one frame, you can
see a person with a US M-1 pot on his head with a modern day walkie-talkie
in between the buildings looking back towards the BAR guy. I assume he
is a movie director of some sort. EAE630
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[Reply
to EAE630:That's incorrect. It's an actor
holding an M1 Carbine. From that distance it looks like a phone. MP40stg44]
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When the
soldiers are under fire on the tank, you see the man getting shot and fall
down but there's one who stays up, and I can clearly see that it's a mannequin
doll. Kenneth
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Properly
executed armor and infantry attacks are pretty hard to stop by unsupported
infantry. Apparently the German armor was shown without infantry
support so that the scenes of the Americans attacking the tanks could be
played out. A properly coordinated attack would have kept the armor
and infantry together. The tanks providing firepower to overcome
resistance and the infantry protecting the tanks from anti-armor attacks
and engaging enemy infantry. Richard T.
Ellis
[Reply
to Richard T. Ellis:
Regarding the comment "German armor shown without infantry support..."
In the initial stage of the attack, infantry followed closely behind the
lead tank. An American airborne soldier set off an explosive charge that
took out many of the German soldiers, and immediately thereafter machine
guns manned by Mellish and Henderson and Jackson and Parker (in the tower)
took out more of the infantry. So it was a coordinated armor/infantry attack,
but most of the infantry was killed immediately. J.
McCarney]
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[Reply
to J. McCarney: In Mr. McCarney's response
to my comment regarding coordination of Infantry and armor, he states exactly
the point I was making. The German Infantry should have been keeping
the U.S. troops from getting close enough to deploy anti-personnel or anti-armor
charges. Once the armor lost the supporting Infantry the Infantry-armor
team should have been restored before the attack continued. In the
later scenes of this action when additional German Infantry is deployed
the restored combat effectiveness nearly overcomes all resistance by the
Americans. The arrival of allied airpower and Infantry introduced
an air-ground team that effectively dealt with the German Infantry and
armor. Coordinated air and combined-arms teams (Infantry, Artillery
and Armor) was the hallmark of the German Blitzkrieg in the early days
of the war. If the allies had not had air superiority Ryan might
not have been saved. Richard T. Ellis]
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As far
as I believe the Tigers shouldn't have even got as far as the town before
Something from either the USAAF or RAF had got it. The Allies had almost
total Air superiority at that time. David
Hughes
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The troops
are looking at their ammo and come to the conclusion that they do not have
much. But Tom Hanks and Matt Damon certainly go through a lot of rounds
and never run out! Anonymous
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As Pvt.
Ryan and Capt.. Miller talk about life at home before the attack on the
bridge takes place, Hanks sits with his hand in his lap. As the camera
shifts point of view from Hanks to Damon, Hank's hands switch position
from right hand on top to left hand on top. This is especially noticeable
because of the number of time the camera focuses on Hank's hands through
out the movie.
Anonymous
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In the
final battle scene at the bridge, when they blow up one of the German tanks.
A German soldier falls out of the tank on fire, but when he faces the camera
you can see a fire mask that he is wearing. I know that they are necessary
for that shot, but they shouldn't get such a close up of the actor's face.
Anonymous
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The US
bazooka in the final battle is fired without a rocket. About 6 inches of
the fins protrude from the back of the bazooka after it is loaded. The
long firing wire is taped to one of the fins. This wire is wrapped around
one of two contacts near the rear of the bazooka to allow the electrical
firing circuit to be completed when the trigger is squeezed. Perhaps these
were like the stealth rockets not seen on the P-51 as reported. H
G Snyder
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When the
soldiers are preparing to defend the bridge, the cowardly interpreter is
given a belt of machine gun ammo. It appears as though the primers are
missing from all of the bullets, which would make them unusable. When Capt.
Miller and another soldier first throw 60mm mortar rounds at the Germans,
the nose of the round in front of the CAPT. appears not to have a fuse,
which would make it unusable. Anonymous
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[Reply
to Anonymous:
Upham is not cowardly. Upham,
as you recall, was a map and language translator. He had not fired a gun
since basic, so he was pretty scared when he was in the real thing. I don't
blame him for being scared. Bob H]
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The two
guys shooting through the wall run out of ammo because the coward interpreter
doesn't get back to them. They call yell about being out of ammo (and you
can see it is) and then pull the gun out of the hole. Problem is the gun
has a full belt of ammo feeding into it in the shot where they pull it
out of the window. Guess the editing guys decided that shot looked better
than the one with the gun empty. Anonymous
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At the
end of the movie, before the battle at the bridge, the GI said that the
Germans have 2 Tigers and one Panther. BIG disappointment, they "only"
had two Tiger's. The third tank looked more like a "Wespe" (Wasp) Howitzer.
Of course that way it was easier to take the tank out by throwing hand
grenades into the open back. ...still wondering how they made those wonderful
Tiger's. Anonymous
- [Reply
to Anonymous: They are two Russan T-34's. This type of conversion was first seen in Kelly's Heroes. The Pvt. Ryan converts were improved by adding more road wheels to the track and mech area, but the tracks and the drive wheel are the big giveaways.
J. Wilson]
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