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-----Original Message-----

From: Barbara Braxton

To: Teirney R

Sent: 7/10/01 22:13

Subject: RE: /Indian Study

Hi Roslyn

What a thorough, comprehensive unit! Love it -and I love the interactiveness (is that a word) of it. The kids on the forum, able to recommend books, the whole works gives them an ownership that is usually missing. If I get the job at the local middle school, I want to be able to create stuff like that.

Learning Curve ahead for me, I guess.

I particularly like the way you have incorporated the outcomes - wish more of our teachers would stop and think of the why and then do the what, rather than the other way around! The essential questions are good too, particularly the one that requires reflection.

The only thing I would suggest is that the font is very small, although that might be my tired eyes. But it could be tricky for someone with a sight impairment to read.

Have you considered creating a rubric for the assessment? They are all the go in the US. You take the key outcomes and then draw up a set of standards for each one so the kids know that if they demonstrate 'x' really well and go beyond what is asked then they get an A; if they just do what is required it's a B; and if they don't do it at all it's a Y (not). That way they know what to strive for; there is a model of your expectation and they can clearly see why they got the grade they did (that's assuming you have to give grades.) It also helps with their time management - many spend cartloads of time on the aesthetics and forget the nitty-gritty. But if they know in advance what it is you are going to be looking for, then neither you nor they are disappointed.

Just a thought.

Will be in touch

Barbara

Barbara Braxton
Teacher Librarian
Palmerston District Primary School
PALMERSTON ACT 2913
AUSTRALIA

T. 02 6205 7241
F. 02 6205 7242
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http://www.palmdps.act.edu.au

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: gouldc@acr.net.au

To: Roslyn Teirney
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Online English Unit on India

Hi Roslyn,

I have a had a quick look at the Geocities site and it looks good. I'm sure our schools would find it useful.

Colin Gould
NSW Country Areas Program
Technology Support Consultant
colin@cap.nsw.edu.au
mobile: 070458370

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----- Original Message -----

From DarkRaivyn

To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: Studying Indian language and literature

Hi Roslyn,

Thank you for your email. I think what you're doing to increase cultural awareness is absolutely essential. I browsed through your site although I haven't had the time to look in detail, but i will certainly add it to the list of references for my site. Just so you know, I teach commercial writing (in English) for Indians living in America.

India as it stands today is a very different place from the perceptions that people tend to have. While it is vital to understand the foundations of Indian culture through historical literature and arts, I believe your students will gain significantly if you add a modern day component to your curriculum - ie including newspapers like Times of India and modern authors like Jhumpa Lahiri and Vikram Seth.

To prepare your students to function well in and among Indians, it is very important that they learn the politics and economics of modern India too - for a little dramatic reading on the Hindu-Muslim conflict, try Taslima Nasreen's book, Shame and there's a book by Shashi Tharoor called India - from Midnight to the Millenium, which covers the political and economic development of India from independence forward in quite an easy to read format.

At any rate, to make a long story not so short, the subject you are teaching is obviously close to my heart and any assistance I can provide you with, is yours for the asking.

Good Luck

Ipsita

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ramya

To: Roslyn Teirney
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Studying India

Dear Roslyn,

Thank you for your mail. It was heartening to know about Sunitra and your students' enthusiasm in knowing more about India. I did go through the Unit syllabus and found it pretty comprehensive. Yes, it is a fair representation of our culture. :-) Good going...

But the book section showed books that are mostly prescribed for the graduate level over here. Your students might prefer some light and fun reading like R K Narayan, Ruskin Bond, Sarojini Naidu and so on. They are fun and at the same time very rich in Indian imagery.

You might also want to introduce a section on mythology, because Indian culture is replete with heroes, gods and tales of valour- I can confidently say these tales are unrivalled in their approach to human nature.

Good luck!!

-Meenakshi

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----- Original Message -----

From: radhika lakshmi


To: rteirney@tassie.net.au
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: English online unit introducing INDIA

Hello,

Some of our favourite writers here are

You will also enjoy reading British poet Brian Patten's poetry for adult readers. Some of his works are
"Love Poems" , "Armada", "Little Johnny's Confession", "Vanishing Trick", "Irrelevant Song", "Storm Damage", "Grave Gossip" and so on.

Hope this list appeals to you.

Thank you

Radhika

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----- Original Message -----
From:

bharti kaushik


To: Ralph and Roslyn Teirney
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: Studying INDIA

Hi!

  • The home page Sunitra's India, has the photograph of LORD KRISHNA, a deity largely worshipped in INDIA, by people of all religion, caste and creed.
    The flag proudly waving and inviting everybody to come and find more about my country.:)
  • Now I am visiting the unit outline.
    I need to get some more information about the child sponsorship. How you found about the needy child etc? >
  • In the reading and viewing for understanding section you have mentioned,"FolkTale: The Elephant and the Six Blind Men of Indostan." The word INDOSTAN should be "hindustan". The fable is a good choice.
  • I am not able to read the article on "GANESH" , the dns error was there.
  • I feel you should have included about Lord Krishna also. I am having trouble in opening other links.
  • I liked the list of books given. I will suggest you look for a series of books called Amar Chitra Katha,and Panchatantra and also for Kathopnaishad.
    The above books may be available in any book store on the net.
  • The basic thing about my country which was nowhere to be found is---
    • the diversity in language,
    • living style,
    • the rich cultural heritage,
    • the caste system,
    • the unity in diversity,
    • the celebration of festival.
  • The collection of proverbs is good.
  • Rest of the links must also be equally good. Sorry couldn't do the detailed analysis of them.

bye

bharti

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----- Original Message -----

From: leela gandhi


To: Roslyn Teirney
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:40 AM
Subject: High School English unit introducing INDIA

Dear Roslyn Teirney

Thank you for your email. I have visited your website and think it works very well indeed. The course should prove to be very informative and entertaining for your students.

I'm afraid you have caught me in the middle of marking and examiners meetings so I am not able to devote much time to making suggestions on the website itself. However, two books which would speak to a younger audience are:

  • Salman Rushdie, Haroun and the Sea of Stories
  • Amitav Ghosh, The Calcutta Chromosome (an Indian science-fiction adventure)

I wish you all the best for the course as for the website.

Leela Gandhi

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From: pamela.stewart@eddept.wa.edu.au


Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:51:09 +0800
Reply-to: indiaticfa2002@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [indiaticfa2002] India through fiction

Hi everyone
I am an avid reader of novels, both fact and fiction so I thought you might like a list of children and adult books that will give some insights into the psyche of the Indian people and the diversity of India. Roslyn, I thoroughly enjoyed looking at your website exploring India through English.

  • Adult fiction
    • Salman Rushdie and Elizabeth West (eds). - The Vintage Book of Indian Writing 1947-97 - a wonderful eclectic anthology of works
    • Traveller's Literary Companion: The Indian Sub-Continent - takes through the regions of India through text
    • Shauna Singh Baldwin - What the Body Remembers - a novel about the events in India around Partition
    • Anita Desai - In Custody - explores the frailty and strength of humankind through the character of a timid school teacher
    • Anita Desai - Diamond Dust - a collection of short stories mainly about women
    • Kiran Desai (daughter of Anita) - Hullabaloo in the Guava Orchard - is a satirical view of some of the religious practices in India and the gullibility of ordinary people.
    • Holstrom and Hayhoe - Writings from India - short stories supported by photographs, maps and glossary of terms.
    • Ruth Prawer Jhabvala - Heat and Dust - the best of her novels
    • Gita Mehta - A River Sutra - a series of interlocking stories that explore the spirituality of India in ordinary life
    • Pankaj Mishra - The Romantics - all about human relationships and explores what Westerners want out of India and how some Indians find this to comprehend.
  • Children's fiction
    • Prodeepta Das Geeta's Day: from Dawn to Dusk in an Indian Village - simply text and coloured photographs
    • Mira Kapur Babu's Day - written in Hindi and in English - Babu lives near Bollywood - a description of a visit to this wonderful place
    • Kath Lock - The Tiger, the Brahmin and the Jackal (A Play) - Big book and set of 4 small books
    • Kerri and Larry Pitts - Facing the Tiger Set in the Jungles of India, this is the story of a courageous young girl who with the help of the silvery moon outsmarts a tiger
    • Anita Ganeri - Buddhist Stories, Hindu Stories, Islamic Stories and Sikh Stories - each book contain 8 simply told stories which introduce young readers to the beliefs, values and traditions of these religions.

This is just the beginning. More to come next week. Where do you buy them? Austral Ed, 2 Downer Ave, Belair, SA 5052 p) 08 8278 1688 f) 08 8278 1033. Books are also very cheap in India but you have to remember weight and although you can post them back, they tend to take quite some time to get to Australia.

Happy reading

Pamela Stewart
State Advisor
Asia Education Foundation (WA)
E-mail: Pamela.Stewart@eddept.wa.edu.au

-----Original Message-----

From:

Hugo McCann


To: teirney.r@ogilvie.tased.edu.au
Subject: Fwd: Re: Novels and Poems of INDIA
Sent: 30/11/01 11:28
Subject: Re: Novels and Poems of INDIA

Roslyn,

You might consider for some readers

  • Salmain Rusdie's Haroun and the Sea of Stories.
  • Rudyard Kipling The Just-so Stories
  • might like to chase up the work of the illustrator Suddhasattwa Basu (1956-) - (his illustrations for V.Sulieman's The Homecoming 1997, say)
  • Ruskin Bond Angry River (1972) - girl, stranded by the monsoon floods, who is rescued by a boy who might just be Krishna.
  • Ved Mehta Vedi (1982) describes five years of his childhood marked by his own blindness
  • People speak well of the work of Margaret Bhatty (1930-) She has written fantasy and science fiction as well as more 'realistic' novels. People mention The Adventures of Bhim the Bold (1976) and girl centred novels such as The Secret of Sickle-Moon Mountain (1994).
  • Zamorin's Treasure gives detailed information about the wildlife of the Laccadive Islands, the history of Portugese exploration and early European trade with India.
  • Madhur Jaffrey - the cookery writer - published a book in 1985 Seasons of Splendour, which presents Indian mythological tales.
  • Sengupata, Subhadra (1952-) writes stories influenced by Bengal. People talk about Bishnu the Dhobi Singer (1994) & Bishnu Sings Again (1998)
  • Farrukh Dhondy (1944-) Books about Asians in Britain
  • Rumer Godden (1907-1998) The Peacock Spring, set in India (New Delhi), published as a young adult novel by Penguin.
  • Malcolm J. Bosse, Ganesh (Harmondsworth: Puffin Books, 1984). A compelling book about a boy in India who comes to understand the life of Indian holy men [ Uprooted from his home in India by a tragedy, Ganesh begins a new life in the Midwest where his experiences with Hinduism, Yoga, and mantras are considered alien.] - everyone read this in schools in Tasmania when it came out in the early eighties and it was very successful with young high school readers. [Movie version is Ordinary Magic (1993) - RAT]
  • R. K. Narayan, Waiting for the Mahatma (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1981 [Michigan State University Press, 1955]). (Important Indian writer in English)
  • Vikram Seth Beastly Tales from Here and There (1991) - Animal tales. (There are, of course, interesting web sites associated with this and following authors)
  • Arundhati Roy The God of Small Things (1998)* Great success recently among lovers of interesting and detailed novels
  • Salman Rusdie Midnight's Children* (a great book about sub-continent history)
  • Paul Scott The Raj Quartet* (has an accompanying and compelling TV series) (* = adult list book) (We'd expect this series to be readable by good readers from Grade 9 onwards but they need to talk about it as they go with other readers )
  • Rudyard Kipling Barrack Room Ballads

Useful website with interesting titles
http://falcon.jmu.edu/~ramseyil/muindia.htm and there are many others.

Would you consider adding Attenborough's film on Gandhi? Or the film of EM Forster's A Passage to India?

We hope this, which was done very quickly - probably too quickly -, helps.

We do like your site. (I[Hugo] would like to see more maps and ways of placing oneself in the sub-continent but then I like maps and diagrams of all kinds for helping people place themselves.)

Ida and Hugo

PS I should have mentioned the only Indian authored book to win the Newbery Medal - The US Award - Dhan Gopal Mukerji The Story of a Pigeon (1927,) which tells the story of a carrier pigeon during WW1. The story takes place in the Himalayan Mountains and in France during the war. I have not read it but it sounds like something a bright student might enjoy reading because it makes quite interesting connections, don't you think?

Cheers,

Hugo McCann

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From: buceus
[Sat 15 Dec, 02:02] 1. Indian fiction

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For of the most representative works in Indian fiction you may turn to works of :

  • (a) R.K. Narayanan. (Try his Malgudi days for accounts of village life.)
  • (b) Kamala Das (feminist writer from Kerala - Try her My story. It is semi -autobiographical.)
  • (c) God of small things (Booker prize winner from Arundhati Roy)
  • (d) Translations of Vaikom Muhammed Bashir's works (Malayalam)
  • (e) O.V. Vijayan's Guru Sagaram
  • (f) Works of Niral C. Chaudhari
  • (g) All works of Nirala (I doubt if translations are available
  • (h)Anything from Rabindra Nath Tagore

    I hope that would suffice.

    Do exchange notes on this. My e-mail: busues@sify.com

    Anonymous
    [Sat 15 Dec, 03:58]
    2. Books

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    How about Heart of India by Mark Tully or No Full Stops in India by Mark Tully? Also anything by Tagore. His short stories are quite superb. Train to Pakistan...Kuswant Singh. If you know anyone going to India the book shops are goood and very cheap, so you could ask them to bring you a selection back. Good luck.

    GWorthington
    [Sat 15 Dec, 09:33]
    3. India Treasures

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    II did post a response on your web site about my own historical novel. Since your question was apparently raised mainly on behalf of high school students wanting to learn about and publicize information on Indian culture, the book seems especially appropriate. For more details or information, most of it much less biased, read the reviews on www.Amazon.com; or look at the publisher web site at www.TimeBridgesPublishers.com.

    You have a fascinating and worthwhile project--good luck with it! (My wife has been a high school literature teacher and has done projects related to India for several years, also).

    Gary Worthington

    Author, India Treasures: An Epic Novel of Rajasthan and Northern India through the Ages (2001)

    THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK


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