Letters Written by Mary Airey-LAYE, widow of Lt General Francis LAYE, and others, in regards to obtaining an Ensigncy for his son, Joseph Henry LAYE, (future Maj- General J.H.LAYE


I have a lot more to post- script isn't easy to read -  PP May 26 2001

Letter- Mary Laye to the Right Hon Lord Hill, Commander in Chief,  July 20, 1831

[Envelope marked:] (10    Mrs M Laye, (Widow of the Last L General Laye)  20 July 1831 
To the Right Hon the Lord Hill Gr C- B  General Command'g in Chief  & & &  Nonoe [?] Guards London   [in M Laye's hand]
[In another hand:]  the [?] 25 July 
[In yet another hand:] Lt Guinning  19 July 

[Ref WO31/707]  [Stamped “RECEIVED C in C.O. JUL 21 1831]  [Margin-header written on a different hand: [illegible to me] for son in 4th Foot in [?] going to India in N.S. Wales.] 

                                                                         [Hard to read address] Chettingham 
                                                                         July 20, 1831


My Lord/
                May I request you will be pleased to allow me to purchase an Ensigncy in a Regm't going to the East Indies by the route of New South Wales, being left a widow with a slender provision for five children   I trust your Lordship will be graciously pleased to take my [enoe?] into your immediate consideration and grant me your kind support to enable me to make a prompt and permanent provision for my son Joseph Henry Laye now sixteen years of age- 
             I take [care?] most respectfully to state to your Lordship that I am desirous from many circumstances to obtain a commission for my son in the 4th Regmn't of Foot as I understand from my friend Col'n'l Greenwell the officer commanding the garrison at Chattam that it is likely that no Ensigncy's will be sold in a short period in the 4th Foot- I therefore most earnestly 
[To] Right Hon the Lord Hill
R C- B - General
Comman 'ing in Chief
[page 2 below]  
your Lordship to allow me to purchase one of the Commissions for my son: further I take care to mention to your Lordship's attention the long service of my Husband the late Lieut. Gen'l  Laye of the Royal Artillery  when I hope your Lordship will be [ indstnst?] under the helping [?] circumstances of my [enoe ?] to grant me your immediate patronage & support with the greatest respect
                                                                          I have the Honor to be
                                                                                  My Lord
                                                                        Your Most O'B't Humble Servant 
                                                                           Mary Laye  [signed]
                                                                         Widow of the late
                                                                         Lieut. Gen.'l Laye
                                                                               Royal Artillery
[Note- to the LH Margin of Page 2, in what I think is Lord Somerset's hand- -I have his own text here- since it is very hard to decipher.] 

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Letter- Mary Laye to Lord FitzRoy Somerset  July 29th 1831

  [Ref WO31/707]  [Stamped “RECEIVED C in C.O. JUL 30 1831]  [Margins: “Mrs M. Laye    29 July 1831”].

                                                                                     1- Moslnig Jernnee [?]  Chettenham
                                                                                     July 29th 1831

  My Lord,

         I beg to acknowledge the receipt of  your Lordship’s favor of the 25th indisposition knowing prevented an earlier reply annornering to me the indulgence of being permitted to purchase an Ensignancy for my son, Joseph Henry Laye, and request your Lordship’s will do me the favor of representing my request [?] acknowledgement to the Commander in Chief, for his obliging attention to my wishes and more presentingly [?] of, as regards my son’s appointment to the 4th [Foot?] which would be most desirable  -I have also to offer my sincere thanks for your Lordship’s kind interest in forwarding my application and beg to state that the purchase money will be lodged in the hands of Sir M. H. Bridley [?] the Co Bankers Newcastle Upon the Tyne 

                                                 And have the Honor to be
                                                  My Lord
                                                   Your Lordship’s Obedient Servant
                                                          Mary Laye [signed]



Lord FitzRoy Somerset  K- C- B

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Letter- Mary Laye to the Right Hon Lord Hill, Commander in Chief,  Sept 27, 1832

 [Ref WO31/707]  [Stamped “RECEIVED C in C.O. SEP 28 1832]   [Mrs. M Laye 7  27 Sept. 1832” a few indiscernible words, “July 1831 by Purchase” “acquaint that the name of her Son remains noted [?] –but he I still low of the list.” “A- -  4th October”   “13”  “29/g”  [and three words lightly recorded I can’t make out- “fre –eied H Saleel”

                                                                                      Mofs [?] Herefordshire

                                                                                     Sept 27 – 1832

               I take the liberty of addressing your Lordship in favor of my son Joseph Henry Laye, youngest son of the late Lieut-Gen’l Laye of the Royal Artillery, who is most anscions [?] to obtain and Ensigncy in the line with a view to make the Army his profession for life-

            I beg leave to remind your Lordship that an application was made last year by W. George Gunning on my son’s behalf where your Lordship was so kind as to say that my son’s Name should be placed on the List for Purchase, he is now seventeen years of age and his mind bent upon the Service, which renders him unwilling to adopt any other profession particurly

                                                                                                                  As  [. . .]
  [at page bottom, though letter continues. To:]
Right Hon  - - Lord Hill
--  C- B- general
Comman’dg in Chief

  [ . . . ] it was his Father’s wish that he should be placed in the Army, and I have no other prospects for him, I am very desirous of obtaining a Commission as early as your Lordship may be pleased to appoint him- should your Lordship be pleased to grant my request it would confer a lasting obligation.

                                                            And have the Honor
                                                              to be
                                                              My Lord
                                                              Your Lordships
                                                                 Most Obe-dt Humble Ser-t
                                                                          Mary Laye [signed]

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Internal Memorandum Costlo (?) to Lord FitzRoy Somerset 29 April 1834

  [Ref WO31/707]

                                                                                Craig’s  Tosssit  [?illeg]

                                                                                           29 April 1834

  My Lord

            We have the honor to report to your Lordship. For General Lord Hill’s information, that sum of 450 pounds has been lodged in our hands for the purchase of an Ensigncy for Mr Joseph Henry Laye-

          We have the honor to be My Lord,
                        Your Lordship’s
                           most obedient Sewards
                                                   Costlo [? signed]
M. General
    The Lord FitzRoy Somerset KCD

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Letter:  Lord FitzRoy Somerset to Marchioness Winchester 26 April 1834


[Ref WO31/707 Unstamped word “written” on top. This appears to be a carefully worded an legible version that was written on Lady’s Winchester letter of April 23, 1834 and recopied – Believe to be Lord Somerset]. 

                                                                                                                 Horse Guard’s

                                                                                                                  26 April 1834

 My Dear Lady Winchester,

             I have great pleasure in acquainting you that I had already when I received your note of the 23rd Instant, selected J.H. Laye for the purchase of an Ensigncy in the 58th and I am very glad that in so doing, I have anticipated your wishes for his appointment.

                                          I have the honor to be
                                          My Dear Lady Winchester
                                            Yours very faithfully,


[To:] Marchioness Winchester


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Letter Marchioness Winchester to Lord FitzRoy Somerset 23 Apr 1834

  [Ref WO31/707]  [Stamped “RECEIVED C in C.O. Apr 23 1834]  [Margins: 26 Apr 34 initialed].

                                                                                                         Cavendish Tyrence [?]


  My Dear Lord,

       According to the gracious permission you gave me the other day and at St James’s, I venture to trouble your Lordship with the particulars respecting the young man in whom behalf I plead , named Joseph Henry Laye, second son of Lieut. General Laye, of the Royal Artillery, in which he served fifty years, and died in 1828. since which time I understand your Lordship (about four years ago) noted this youth down for an Ensigncy by purchase and he is very anxious to be employed in any Regiment in the British Service, May I then presence [?] to hope that as soon as your Lordship has it in your power to appoint him to a Commission (by Purchase) your will with your usual kindness remember my humble request in his favor.

            I have the Honor to remain
         My Dear Lord
         Your very Sincere Obligee
               S. Winchester

[Note: Hand written barely legible note written by Lord Somerset to the margin of this letter – recopied above].    

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  Letter: Mary Laye to Lord FitzRoy Somerset 26 April 1834     

  [Ref WO31/707]  [Stamped “RECEIVED C in C.O. Apr 28 1834]


                                                                  2 Purngen [?] Parade Chettenham

                                                                                    April 26th 1834

  My Lord,

                   I have the pleasure to thank you for your letter of the 24th Inst to my son, and you will be pleased to return my sincere acknowledgement to the General Commander in Chief for my sons appointment to an Ensigncy and beg to say that I have by this day post ordered the sum of 450 pounds to be forward to Cose & Co- London –

                                                                 And have the
                                                                Honor to be
                                                                   Your Lordships
                                                                         Obe-nt Servant
                                                                                Mary Laye
  [To:] Lord FitzRoy Somerset

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Exploring: How does Mary Laye have access to "big shots"? Any connection? 
1. Marchioness Winchester: She was born Anne Andrews, her father was John Andrews of  Shotney Hall, Northumberland (were Layes are from). Her husband was  George Paulet, Marquess of Winchester 12. Mary Laye's son, later worked as Lord Paulet's aide (George's son that is, Lt General William Paulet), in Turkey.    



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Teach college USA.  BA  Philosophy, MA English Drama and Literature EMU.  Born 1950, before Al Gore invented Internet. Peddling ny completed book to publishers, Who Murdered Nurse Florence Nightingale Shore?, an investigation into the unsolved murder of English army nurse, Miss Florence Nightingale Shore, goddaughter and relative of Miss Florence Nightingale.  
Battled some renal cell carcinoma , but have good prognosis. Next project may look at another person on my tree, early feminist/ adventurer/explorer/writer Patricia Elizabeth Ramsay Laye. 




LAYE FAMILY UK  Connected by Marriages or Reference

EMILY LAYE   Dau of Major Francis Fenwick Laye, grand daughter of Lt. General Francis Laye

DIXON BROWN   Northumberland UK ,  Margaret Brown married Lt. General Francis Laye 1803.

AIREY of Northumberland  Lt. General Francis Laye married Mary Airey 1803    Also GILPIN, GOODEN, MULCASTER, BEDFORD (BEDFORDE), BARKUS, LAYE         

GILLMAN of  Portsmouth  LT COL BERTIE CUNYNGHAME DWYER married Beryl Maud Gillman c 1907.
ANDERSON  NICHOLSON  Northumberland  From Laye/Airey/Barnes Line
 GUY BURGESS    Spy for KGB  LT COL BERTIE CUNYNGHAME's sister-in-law, -Evelyn Gillman.,was the mother of this double agent.

  CLAVERINGS and FENWICKS   Northumberland,  From Laye/Airey/Barnes Line

Who Muurdered Nurse Florence Nightingale Shore   My book project

GREY Northumberland  Laye/Airey/Barnes/Clavering/

CASHER      Family of Beryl Maud Gillman - A Casher did the research, and I am merely posting it for him.

GILPIN Northumberland  Northumberland,  From Laye/Airey/Barnes Line 

FLORENCE  NIGHTINGALE:  SMITHS Her maternal side: For studying the Shores or Nightingale Studies  

BEDFORDE  BEDFORD   Durham, UK From Laye/Airey Line

FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE: THE SHORE FAMILY  Norton Hall, Sheffield of Norton Hall. 

General Thomas Peard Dwyer  Detailed Career


 Lt. General Francis Laye     Major General Joseph Henry Laye I    Major General Joseph Henry Laye II    Detailed Careers

PRINCE Essex, Ontario   Tied to ways: GG Grandmother Emily Laye married John Prince, grandson of Col John Prince, and her dau, Mary Anne Dwyer married the Hon. Albert Prince, M.P- the son of Col. Prince. (Yes, that's right).


HON COLONEL JOHN PRINCE, M.P.  A character. Reputed to be illegitimate son of an actress and William IV, notorious for killing American prisoner's of war in the Battle of Windsor. Detroiters put a price on his head. Popular in Windsor.

LT COL BERTIE CUNYNGHAME DWYER   Bertie won Grand National in 1887. "Bertie Dwyer, an English boy of 14  . . . did the fastest time of the race, the only rider to break the two minute barrier with 1 minute 58.6 seconds . . . [A] truly remarkable effort for any rider let alone a 14 year old" (23 The Cresta Run 1885-1985).


INSPECTOR WM BLENNERHASSETT DWYER   Detroit Police Inspector  Very incomplete  
KENNY  County Kerry, Ireland  Also, DWYER, TENT (BROWNE), COURTHROPE, HOARE DEAN PITT  Connected in two way. General J.H. Laye senior married Emelia Dean-Pitt, and Ensign George Sinclair Laye married Amy Selina Nugent, dau of Charlotte Marcia Dean-Pitt.
BUTTERFIELD / SIMPSON AND DUCKETT    LANCASHIRE and BOND E. P. Ramsay-Laye author/feminist pen name: Isobel Massary  4 books, articles, such as "Women and Careers" in Englishwoman Review, 9, (Apr 1878) p 96  -Arguing desirability of married women having careers.

Blennerhassett Kerry   From Dwyer/Hoare  Also  CONWAY, LYNNE, CRUMPE, O'CONNOR, HOARE, DWYER

LAYE Surname Study UK    For Genealogical Reference for all Layes



KEENAN Detroit/ Ontario  Sarah Keenan married my gg grandfather, St. Hugh Simpson Gerald Toulmin Dwyer in Detroit in 1895.

LETTERS OF MARY AIREY LAYE  Letters written by Lt. General Francis Laye's widow, pestering Lord Somerset, later Ragland, for an Ensignacy for her son. Letters to others, like Lord Hill and the Marchioness Winchester.
TOULMIN   London and LANCASHIRE, Mary Anne Toulmin Married to General Thomas Peard Dwyer 11 Apr 1839, Old Church, Saint Pancras, London    Includes: BECKETT, SIMPSON, DWYER, HARRISON, TALBOTT, DWYER CUNYNGHAME Photo Album
WALSH -Meath Ireland    Married to Laye Family Anne Maria Teresa WALSH married Emily Laye's father, Major Francis Fenwick Laye 28 Oct 1835 in Newbridge, Colpe Church County Meath, Ireland CUNYNGHAME Connection is on English branch of family. Captain Robert Hoare Dwyer married  Caroline Georgina Thurlow CUNYNGHAME
HOARE   Kerry  Cork   Connected by Robert Dwyer, father of General Thomas Peard Dwyer marrying Mary Hoare, 1744 Tralee, Kerry.   Also KENNY, DWYER, BLENNERHASSETT, BURNELL, GILPIN, NOTT, WOODCOCK, KELLEY RAMSAY Scot. Eng India   Connection is Major Francis Fenwick Laye married Elizabeth P Ramsay
OGLE Northumberland    Laye/Airey/Barnes/Clavering/Grey ASCENSION ISLAND Mini & partial hist of the RM commandants by Comm (General) T.P. Dwyer
PATERNAL ----  PASKIEWICZ   Plymouth PA/Vilna and Starynki, Russia (Старынкі ). DWYER Surname Study Detroit For Genealogical Reference for all Dwyers
PATERNAL ----  GRIZDIS   and many other spelling  Plymouth PA/Vilna  
PATERNAL---   MIKOLAYESKI  Plymouth PA/Russia/Poland PATERNAL ----  ZENKO   Plymouth PA/Vilna, Olita 
PATERNAL--   SINKIEWICZ or SINKCAVAGE Plymouth PA/Lithuania PATERNAL ---  RUZANTIS   Plymouth PA/Suwalki