[Credit where cretinism is due: thanks to Rebecca Schiller who actually transcribed this. I thought about trying to format it, then thought "Fuck it - it's only TISM". MGF still blow donkeys, though.]
From: "Owen Brown" To: crap@suburbia.com.au Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:36:30 +1000 Subject: tism: Fw: [machinegun] mgf v tism v the whitlams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Machine Gun Fellatio Fansite"To: "machinegun list" Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: [machinegun] mgf v tism v the whitlams > interview in today's canberra times with tism guy, in which he addresses the > fact that they are so much better than mgf. > > is as follows: > > *************** > > After a technical mishap that precludes the slated journalist from > proceeding, i have found myself in the interview chair with tism's ron > hitler barassi with no preparation. that's ok, i tell myself, barassi only > ever lets you get one or two questions out and that doesn't happen until ten > minutes into the interview anyway. besides i am aware that tism are coming > to town for the first time in ages to perform at stonefest, so i can ask him > about that. > > the conference call person tells barassi to go ahead and that's just what he > does, barraging me with his own personal brand of verbal diarrhoea. it > becomes evident that he believes he's been shafted and given the work > experience person to talk to: "how did you get this job in the office? what > are you, the work experience chic? [the other journo] is off talking to > machine gun fellatio or some cool band. you don't know fuck about tism, do > you? what are you, in year ten? what at canberra high? tism always gets > the work experience chic. this is the fourth time this week." (later in > the interview i inform him that i have interviewed him before for another > publication and he's unable to place me. tism aren't the only ones who can > be anonymous, you know.) > > "let me say this", barassi continues: "machine gun fellatio are going to be > blown off stage by tism. we've already talked about this. machine gun > fellatio are in tism's sights. what a weak approximation of tism machine > gun fellatio are, with the pseudo-corporatisation of their image and their > sort of bubblegum cartoonish approach. we were working this side of the > street mgf, years before you were born." > > but what are tism going to be doing that will blow them off stage? "just > the normal rubbish, of course" barassi says. "we've been playing live for > 16 years. we met our ex-lighting guy at the airport and he's going with the > whitlams. he reckons 'yeah the whitlams they get 50 people along to a show > and they all clap and stuff'. that's not a tism show, a tism show is not > just a show, it's an experience. that's why we can still go to sydney after > 17 years and sell out the metro within three days. we got a hell of a lot > of work experience people along to the metro and it was cookin. > > "name another band that can do that?" barassi asks without pausing for an > answer or indeed allowing himself to take a breath. "that is another band > that's shithouse, that's had one week of commercial success in 17 years? we > had one week when he'll never be an ol man river was in the top 10. one > week in 17 tmes 52 weeks. i've had one week where i can considre myself > something of a rockstar and the rest of the time i might as well be in > machine gun fellatio. > > "i'm going to use the journal of record that is the canberra times to state > confidently there is no other rock band in australia that tism is afraid > of - none. we've had bands that don't want to play after us; we've had > bands that don't want to play before us. we know if you put us head to > head, pound to pound, song for song, chord for chord, audience for audience > against any other rock band in australia, and they're gone. > > "you cannot be more than 17 and be convinced by anything the rock industry > will give you. if you're more than 17 and are still convinced that > radiohead have more credibility than kylie minogue, that kylie minogue has > more sexiness than holly valance, that holly valance lacks the integrity of > dj wizard, if you still believe those things and you're over 17, there's > something wrong. it's like saying i really believe the emails that say lose > 20kg in one week. that's all the rock industry is, it's just emailing > straight into teenagers brains a whole lot of incredible assertions that > anyone with any sense dismisses completely. anyone with any sense except > for rolling stone magazine. roling stone seem to swallow it whole, but i > suppose rolling stone are part of the industry that commodify rock music so > there's a certain self interest there. > > "once you take away that commodification that says dj wizard is somehow more > credible than kylie minogue, what are you left with? how do you > differentiate between bands and songs and stuff? one way you diferentiate is > 'can they kick it live?' and tism kick it longer and further and more > accurately than any other band in australia."