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Tales of a Z.C.S.

No one that has played backgammon on the Zone or has read Auntie's and its forums could have missed what has become the most popular event in the MSN Gaming Zone Backgammon area - The Zone Championship Series.  Reports from the field indicate that the behaviour of the ZCS players has been extra-ordinarily cordial.  Even discussions posted about the ZCS on the "notorious" Auntie Zone forums have been held to a higher standard!

Questions that come to my mind are why??? - Why has then been such a success? and why has it brought the best out in people? And probably just as in important, How did they get this to work on the Zone? - which has its own record of bad-mouth, ill-tempered, unskilled players)

What we do know, and what has been verified, is that the original idea was suggested by a player named GentleGrizzly. Another player named trax120 saw the merit in the idea and started the arduous process of promoting the idea and enlisting the aid of other players.  

Many postings were made on the Auntie Zone's Players forum.  Unfortunately, a significant portion of the postings involved personal attacks against other participants.  There was a point where many people thought the idea might die an untimely death.  That's when Trax120 brought in her secret weapons - Stan (ThePatron) and Peter (Plodd).  It was agreed that if this effort was to succeed, it would require that two of the most respected players on the zone (ThePatron and Plodd) provide their services as the tournament's directors.  

Why did you agree to do it? What was your motivation?
<Peter> I thought it was a great idea to get the best players from around the zone together for a tournament.  The tournament was a good idea in danger of going nowhere through disputes over various aspects. I thought that Stan and I had as good a shot as anyone bringing the idea to fruition.   I guess I felt it was an opportunity to help my fellow Zoners or at least to add to the positive experience of playing backgammon on the Zone
<ThePatron> Despite the fact that I was very concerned that whoever led this effort would be a target for a lot of the personal attacks,  I agreed to do it.  And I was extremely pleased that Peter also agreed.  I was confident that Peter and I could get the tourney put together.

Why were you so confident?

<ThePatron> Peter is known as one of the best players here and I had never heard anyone say anything but nice things about him.  I knew he had the respect of the fellow Zoners.
<Plodd> Players that I respected also respected Stan's judgement - so I was optimistic about how well we would work together.

How did you get started? what did you do first?

<ThePatron> First, we started discussing interesting formats.  We both felt that getting a format posted as soon as possible was job number one.
<Plodd> We asked for discussion on Auntie's and got lots of constructive suggestions.  Once we had a first draft we posted it and asked for feedback on it.
<ThePatron> I think we were both a little nervous about what responses we would get after the preliminary format was posted.

So what happened? what was the reaction to the first draft?

<ThePatron> I was very pleased that the input from all the posters was very positive.
<Plodd> I was considerably heartened by how constructive the suggestions and feedback were. We got no feedback that could be characterized as abusive. Stan and I discussed and considered each suggested change and decided whether or not it was for the better.
<ThePatron> I think we both thought that we would get a lot more constructive criticism and suggestions for changes than we did.  I believe the reason for this was that we had put a lot of work and thought into what we originally posted.

What was the biggest change in your original design?

<Plodd> We extended the length of the matches in later rounds.  I also think it was at this stage we introduced the concept of total adjusted points (from the first two rounds) being used to determine the final eight.  And also the idea of the first 3 qualifiers in the final eight getting their choice of opponent
<ThePatron> I agree Peter, those were the biggest changes.  When we posted the revised format, as well as the rules and entry criteria it was accepted overwhelmingly with very few additional changes

About Snowie - I understand there was some discussion about using Snowie for the ZCS?
<Plodd> Yes that was an excellent suggestion.  For me, this has been the most educational tourney I have ever played for one reason only : the chance to see how Snowie ' marked' my matches.  Without that feedback, I would tend to just repeat my mistakes.
<ThePatron> The idea of having Snowies run grew from just doing the feature matches to Snowie-ing as many matches as possible.
<Plodd> Also I know it has been very educational for many other players and spectators who don't own Snowie.
<ThePatron> That's when Don Boyer volunteered to head a Snowie team and design a web page for the Snowied matches to be displayed.  Don recruited the assistance of Jim (HeyAbbot) to help him develop the web page and together they have done an extraordinary job. Long after this tourney is over, the web page will be an outstanding learning tool for many, many players.
<Plodd> So my thanks go to Don Boyer and his dedicated Snowie team Barb (NRGIZD_BUNNY), Jim (HeyAbbot), Stan (ThePatron), Rob (FriedLiverAttack) and anyone else who I may have omitted.

Was there any objection to using Snowie?
<ThePatron> We gave everyone the option on their entry form to decline to have their matches Snowied and posted with their names
<ThePatron> I was extremely glad when not a person in the field declined to have their matches posted.
<Plodd> In the event, I think just 2 entrants opted for Snowie anonymity and neither made the final field.
<ThePatron> I think that is a credit to the quality and the character of the field.

Speaking of ZCS, why the change in name?
<ThePatron> I really don't know except that we both thought that ZCS was a little catchier
<Plodd> I thought that any tournament named Championship of Zone ought to be an official Zone tourney.
<ThePatron> And when we started talking about format, a championship series, the name seemed to make sense to us.

How has Shelby been involved?
<ThePatron> Shelby had already been approached about hosting the tourney before I became involved. I thought it was a wonderful choice as a host.
<Plodd> Shelby offered to host at a very early stage. We were delighted to accept.  We drew on her knowledge and experience in drafting the format and the rules.
<ThePatron> She has been a huge asset for us. Her input, advice and work has been extraordinary.
<Plodd> The work she put into her website as well as her hosting abilities really added to the success of this tourney.
<Plodd> Several innovations I would like to mention :
  1. Having a page where players can announce when they will be playing makes it good for kibbitzers
  2. Being able to click on a crosstable to go directly to the Snowied analysis of that match (very neat!).
  3. Doing the draw in public heightened the interest.
<ThePatron> I agree completely, the things that she has done are wonderful and greatly appreciated by both us and all the players.

How much did the postings on the Auntie's ZCS forum play in developing the tournament?
<Plodd> They were essential
<ThePatron> That site was crucial to getting this tourney going and we were very thankful to have you, Corey, to provide it.
<Plodd> If I can suck up to Corey for a moment...were it not for the forum provided by Auntie's this tournament would not have happened.
<ThePatron> I remember asking you if it would be a possibility by email. Within two hours it was done. I thought what service!!!!
<Plodd> We needed the postings to see what players wanted and to consider improvements and ideas that we would not have thought of otherwise.
<Plodd> Also it was the best way to get feedback to our draft ideas.
<ThePatron> It was and still is a very vital way to get feedback on all our ideas and to distribute new and vital information.
<Plodd> Also, Stan and I would like to thank all of the posters on the ZCS page for their suggestions and feedback.  They too were vital to the process.

So what other communication was going on besides the forum posts? Email, Phone calls, offers of free sex? threats, intimidations, blackmail, bribes?

<ThePatron> LOL, all the good stuff, none of the bad.
<Plodd> We were getting some private email, but as I pointed out on Auntie's, we much preferred all submissions/lobbying be publicly done via posting on Auntie's ZCS Forum.
<ThePatron> In fact there were very few suggestions that were not well thought out and communicated.
<Plodd> I did get one email lobbying from a particular player asking to be included...used the word please about 7 times.
<ThePatron> We did exactly what we both committed to do. We openly discussed with each other every suggestion, regardless of the source and made decisions based on what we believed would benefit the tournament as a whole.

How did you decide on the final 40?
<Plodd> We posted our proposed eligibility rules, asked for feedback, reconsidered in light of the feedback, and then posted the final selection rules, and then we applied them.
<ThePatron> It was very easy after we decided on the criteria and posted it. We just followed our own rules.
<Plodd> Of course when we decided on the rules and a field of 40 we had little idea of how many entries we would attract...
<Plodd> We had a great response with 73 entries and applying the entry criteria as written resulted in quite a few talented players not making the final cut.
<ThePatron> In the spirit of the Zone Championship, we felt it was imperative to have a very strong field.
<Plodd> We did'nt get a single complaint about the way we applied the rules.  Well no one complained to me, anyway.
<ThePatron> I believed we didn't get complaints because we took a lot of time making sure we agreed on every selection.

Have you had to make any "director's calls" on special circumstances?
<Plodd> Yes we applied Rule 14 to the case of one player who had entered with a non-working email address.
<Plodd> So neither we nor Shelby nor any of his opponents could contact him.  We eventually decided to substitute him with the next eligible entrant.
Rule 14?
<Plodd> Rule 14 gives us the discretion to modify or add to posted Rules should Directors and host agree it is appropriate.
<ThePatron> When we made the final field selection the first person out that didn't make the field was Yelnod. Two days before the field was decided he and I played a match.  He had me down and was killing me when the dice changed and the cube was passed several times and I won the match on sheer luck.  If he had not played the match, his rating would have qualified him for the tournament.   I felt like such a heel.
<ThePatron> Then after a no show, Yelnod, being next in line, got to play.  I was very glad for him and it soothed my conscience a lot.

How is it going so far? Any interesting stories?

<ThePatron> The best story is that to my knowledge there hasn't been a single major problem and I know we both want that to continue.
<Plodd> I am pleased with the spectator interest its attracting.  I watched Zox v Sakura4 last night with 21 other kibbers
<ThePatron> Then there was the story of Phil Simborg, that just exemplified the spirit of the series.
(Auntie's Note - here is the text of ThePatron's original post)
Phil Simborg was playing ANGRYbuberi. Phil was playing for a gammon and only had 3 checkers left on the board, the cube was centered, and Angry rolled a nice joker and took off a checker. Phil, of course, doubled instead of rolling it out. By mistake Angry took. An obvious error with the mouse pointer. Angry typed oops and Phil said, "I realize that was a mistake". They agreed to reseat and adjust the score by resigning points to reflect the score as if Angry had dropped. It made me proud to be a zoner! Such a high level of sportsmanship deserves special recognition. We hope all will continue through out the ZCS. True sportsmanship, such as this, brings honor to the game, the tournament and especially to the players.
So where to from here? You guys gonna host another ZCS down the road?
<Plodd> I would be delighted to co-direct another with Stan.  There are a number of issues, including how often the ZCS ought to occur.  And I am sure there are further improvements to be made.  My feeling is we will ask for feedback.
<ThePatron> There seems to be a lot of interest in continuing this on a semi-annual basis.
<ThePatron> I will do just as I did in this initial event. If asked, I would be happy to continue as long as Peter was agreeable.
<Plodd>
You guys seem to make a really good team, have you ever met in person, or is your relationship purely electronic?
<Plodd> Yes...It was a pleasure working with Stan.  Could have been a nightmare otherwise !
<ThePatron> It has been mostly electronic but we had one fairly long phone conversation.
<ThePatron> I hope we get to meet one day. It's always fun to meet the people you enjoy on the zone.

Other than Shelby, has the Zone contacted you or offered any support for this?

<Plodd> No
<ThePatron> Not a word from the zone, but I understand they are aware of the tourney.
<Plodd> Though we have had support from others who happen to also host/sysop on Zone.
<Plodd> And we were pleased that ZRatings cleaned the rating list shortly before we had to select the field.

Any closing remarks?
<ThePatron> In closing I would like to say that it was a real honor to be asked to co-direct this tourney with Peter. It has been a valuable experience.
<Plodd> Yes, I second that.
<ThePatron> There are so many people who have put a lot of work in this, from you, Don and his Snowie team, Shelby, everyone has been great.
<ThePatron> The spirit of this tournament is a credit to all the hard working and very committed zoners who have made our task much easier.
Any comments or disagreements? Post them to my forum.