Which is the method of the Babylonians? Moonsighting or starting the month by conjunction? If for you moonsighting is the method of the Babylonians, then both Saudi and Kerala followed it. So why should you question Madhyamam? And what gave you the idea that I answered for Madyamam? You send a copy to me and to so many others. I only replied to inform the truth as Allah says not to conceal truth. Study about Babylonians and you will realise who are actually Babylonians. Ignorance after ignorance. If Guiness book of world records reads these mails they will put you people under the leadership of Manikfan as 'The most knowledgeable ignorant in the world'.

Sajid

My Reply to Dr. Sajid

Dear Sajid

For your kind information I have pasted below some quotes which are from your friend Dr.Riyad’s presentation two month before. If you have the mails with you kindly go through. This is the proof from your friend that start of the day in the evening is the method of Babylonians. For more clarification ask to your friend. He has taken the quotes from standard Encyclopedias.

“If calculated conjunction was before mid-day at Babylon, then that evening was first day of new month. If calculated conjunction was after midday at Babylon, then next evening was first day of new month”

This is the quote from your friend that proves the moon sighting was the practice of Jews. You can find it the scanned image in the same presentation that I have mentioned above.

“Determination of New Moon. – Regarding their knowledge of the beginning of the month, and the mode in which it is computed and used the Jews are divided into two sects, one of which are Rabbanites. They derive the beginning of the by menace of calculation from the mean motions of two luminaries (sun an moon), no regard being had has to whether new moon is visible already or not. For it was their object to have conventional time that was begin from the conjunction of the sun and moon

By the following accident they were, as relate themselves, induce to adopt this system: at the time when they returned to Jerusalem, they posted guards up on the top of the mountains to observe new moon, they ordered them to light a fire and to make a smoke, which was to be signal for them that new moon in fact had been seen. Now on account of the enmity which existed between them and the Samaritans, these later went and sent up the smoke from the mountain one day before new moon was seen. This practice they continued during several months, at the beginnings of Jerusalem found out this observing that new moon, on the 3^rd and 4^th of the month .rose above the Horizon from the east. Hence it was evident that the Samaritans had deceived them Therefore they had recourse to the scholars of their time, in order to protect by a system of calculation against the deceitful practice of their enemies, to which they were exposed by their present method. In order to prove that it was legally permitted to fix the beginning of the month by calculation instead of observation, they referred to the duration of the deluge…..”

I have given below some more evidence from the various website. This is what your method revealed by your scholars in recent years through their websites and invalid software of visibility curves.

The months began at the first visibility of the New Moon, and in the 8th century B.C.E. court astronomers still reported this important observation to the Assyrian kings. The names of the months differed from city to city, and within the same Sumerian city of Babylonia month could have several names, derived from festivals, from tasks (e.g., sheep shearing) usually performed in the given month, and so on, according to local needs….
http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-ancient.html#bab

For approximately 5,000 years various cultures have used the visibility of the new crescent moon in their calendars. Although many modern calendars which use lunar months are calculated, some still rely on lunar observations. Perhaps as many as one billion people use the first sighting of the new crescent moon to signal the start of the new month. For instance, in Islam, the sighting of the the new crescent moon should be made with the naked eye. For some amateur astronomers, the challenge is to sight the youngest crescent moon. Whatever your interest in the new crescent moon, it is useful to have good predictions of when the new crescent moon is likely to be visible
Predicting the first sighting of the new crescent moon has been attempted since the time of the Babylonians and perhaps earlier still. These early methods relied on the age of the Moon and the time difference between moonset and sunset. More modern methods use the angular separation of the Sun and Moon, the altitude difference between the Sun and Moon, their relative azimuths and the width of the crescent. Some methods even try to model atmospheric effects to improve the prediction.………

http://www.crescentmoonwatch.org/background.htm

When does a Jewish day begin?

A Jewish-calendar day does not begin at midnight, but at either sunset or when three medium-sized stars should be visible, depending on the religious circumstance.

Sunset marks the start of the 12 night hours, whereas sunrise marks the start of the 12 day hours. This means that night hours may be longer or shorter than day hours, depending on the season http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-jewish.html

I hope now you have got enough proof that moonsighting and evening start of day were the Babylonian and Jews practice.

I have addressed the letter to the Editor, Madhyamam daily (please find it on the top of the letter) and if you want inform me the truth kindly send through the path which we had done the conversation before. Otherwise the viewers think that this is the reply from Madhyamam.

Abdulrahim

Abdul Rahim