Page 1a - Frank B. Finite (a "true" atheist)

 

Page 1b - Amazing Transitional Fossils

 

Page 1c - Andy Akers (ag-nostic)

 

Page 1d - Alternate Resurrection Theory of the Month

 

Page 1e - Ask Miko

 

Page 1f - Your Evological Horrorscope

 

Page 1g - The Book of Chances

 

Page 1h - Word of the Month

 

Page 1j - An Internal Memo

 

Page 1k - The Evolutionary Classifieds

 

Page 1kk - Letters to the Editor

 

Page 1m - Who Are We?

 

Page 63 - The Real Story

 

Page 70 - Past Issues

 

Page 77 - Contact the fools

 

Act 2: More of the same, yet wackier

 

LAW359: how do you report a site?

HS: LAW359...go to the site (see the url above) and click on the "notify aol" button.
HS: it's an aol-owned site, so they have control over its contents.

L359: ok

T: lol - enough - Blind is reported for chat disruption

BlindFools: T: I have not disrupted - i have vigorously defended atheism.

J88: Umm - okay.... I just say BlindFools website - Can someone tell him he needs to find
J88: something better to do with his time... cause I have him Clicked

T: and also for disrespect shown to members who frequent this location

BlindFools: T: Prove otherwise.

BlindFools: J88: <-- flight

BlindFools: Atheism rules!

BlindFools: Chance and time love you.

T: scroll up blind fool...
T: you will find offending disruption

BlindFools: T: please paste it for me.

L359: ok he's been reported

J88: The Website: http://hometown.aol.com/
BlindFools/
J88: has been reported to TOS

HS: what is god's way, lab? and why do the peoples of earth have so many different gods?

BlindFools: There is no god.

HS: J88...you and me both!

J88: Coolio

BlindFools: J88: And i nominated it as top site.

T: too much to paste actually

BlindFools: Science rules.
BlindFools: T: very vagie - not much of a case.
BlindFools: T: vague*

T: repetitive commentary - too much to paste
T: doesn't matter - 888 has is
T: *it

BlindFools: T: I like my chances - I have defended atheism in here, no?
BlindFools: T: What have I said against atheism?
BlindFools: T: nothing.

T: actually - most of what I've seen is constant repeating of commentary
T: already stated by others...blind

BlindFools: T: what - scrolling?

T: which is a reportable...offense

BlindFools: T: Your case is weak...
BlindFools: T: what have I said that you disagree with?

T: nope - valid...three or more repititions of aol comment...blind

BlindFools: T: And i have not been the one insulting.

T: not about disagreement
T: or insult
T: about repetition

BlindFools: T: But I have been talking to many people, right?

T: and mocking people by repeating their commentary

LAW359: i hope you lose your site pal

BlindFools: T: not repitition if to many people.

T: but little button will take care of that...

BlindFools: T: I do not repeat others - I'm too good for that.

T: aol comment - three times repeated in a row...blind

BlindFools: T: I paste others names and put my own commentary.

K: yep
T be very careful of the devil named blind

BlindFools: T: What have I said that you disagree with?
BlindFools: T: anything?

T: T: I paste others names and put my own commentary.

KB:
T: T: I paste others names and put my own commentary like the loser I am

T: the above is what I mean...blind

BlindFools: T: What does that supposed to mean?
BlindFools: T: I don't paste what others have written, just their name.
BlindFools: T: It's better seen that way, that's all.
BlindFools: T: right?

T: no...blind...you disrupt because you post lies coming out of mouths of others

TT: Blind, for some reason i find it annoying for people to past SNs like that
TT: *****!

BlindFools: T: show me once where i pasted what someone else has said.
BlindFools: T: No, that is my way of getting the attention of who I am talking to.

T: it's not about what someone else has said...it's about putting your lies next to
T: the names of others...blind

BlindFools: T: I do not try to pretend to be others - I'm too good for that.

CBD: Blind, you are a wacko
CBD
: a fundy
CBD: perhaps the missing link
CBD: :)

HCAT: Boy, the commentary between Blindfools and others has been riveting,heh heh.

BlindFools: T: Anyone can see that you are not writing this.

T: whey you post another's name and your words next to it
T: you demeen their character...blind

BlindFools: T: your case is weak.

CBD: Blind hates Atheists, because he KNOWS we are right

T: you show disrespect...blind

BlindFools: T: Do you disagree with any content of mine?

T: and discourtesy

BlindFools: T: how?

T: yes...blind

HS: grim...blind and labi are our fundie guests for tonight.

BlindFools: T: what?

T: I disagree with your using my name
T: and it's against courtesy rules

BlindFools: T: you don't get ot, do you?
BlindFools: T: it*

T: it's misleading and disrespectful

BlindFools: T: But, since you asked (for the first time) I will stop.
BlindFools: Is this better?
BlindFools: May I type you name out?

T: lol - it's already too late...blind
T: the report is long gone

BlindFools: T: She asked, and I did so, right?

T: and - at least you could ask gender - before determining fem...blind
T: that's pretty bigoted
T: and sexist...
T: and that can be reported also

BlindFools: lol

T: sexist commentary - yep

BlindFools: everyone report that too

T: (think I'll switch...put blind on ignore and listen to lab a while)

BlindFools: Religious leaders are more highly evolved than atheists.

T: BlindFools: Religious leaders are more highly evolved than atheists.

BlindFools: teach chooses flight instead of fight

CBD: Blind, isn't there some rule about keeping the company of teh UNgodly?
CBD: if Atheists don't count as UNGoldy, no one does

T: that's one...blind...
T: I knew there would be one...

BlindFools: T: exactly.
BlindFools: They have invented a way to get people to "voluntarily" submit control to them.

T: BlindFools: Religious leaders are more highly evolved than atheists.
T: BlindFools: Religious leaders are more highly evolved than atheists.

BlindFools: Yes they are.
BlindFools: They have invented a way to get people to "voluntarily" submit control to them.

CBD: Doesn't the Bible have some rule about calling others Fool?
CBD: like you get your *** burned in hell for calling other people fool or somethin

T: BlindFools: Religious leaders are more highly evolved than atheists.

C: I can't imagine why people tell Christians to shut up. I guess they don't have an ignore.

T: actually yes...scroll up

GRS1: Blind is gonna burn for that one...

BlindFools: GRS1: Why? based on what?

GRS1: Why what? Wasnt that a judgement?

CBD: Blind, doesn't the Bible have some rule about , if your message is not well recieved
CBD: that you should shake the dsut from your feet and move on to the next venue?
CBD: Doesn't teh Bible have some rule about casting your pearls before swine?
CBD: oink
CBD: oink

BlindFools: GRS1: Mine, yes. Based on the law of nature.

GRS1: Xtians are allowed to judge others? Since when?

BlindFools: GRS1: No, it was merely survival of the fittest.
BlindFools: GRS1: Nothing wrong with that.
BlindFools: GRS1: right?

CBD: Blind, as a Christian, you **** worse than as a Scientist

GRS1: What the h*** are you blathering about? You make no sence...
GRS1: sense*

T: just click him...GRS1

BlindFools: GRS1: Okay...

GRS1: What are you talkin about?

BlindFools: GRS1: what is the bases of religion?
BlindFools: GRS1: basis*
BlindFools: GRS1: power?

TT: Blind, would you just stop with the pasting of the name like that!

GRS1: How does that have anything to do with you judging me as unevolved?

BlindFools: TT, I will not do yours.

T: TT - just report then click him...is idiot

CBD: All Religions are built on the fears of the greedy few

TT: he IS an idiot!

BlindFools: But what is wrong with that?

CBD: pardon, built on the fears of the many
CBD: by the greedy few

BlindFools: What's wrong with using fear to get ahead?

CBD: Christinaity is a Blatant rip off of several earlier religions

T: well - gotta run...night all

BlindFools: Nobody has an answer?
BlindFools: What is wrong with using fear to control people?
BlindFools: Anyone?
BlindFools: <-- has not been proven wrong yet.

J88: I have an exam tomorrow
J88: goodnight all ;)

BlindFools: We are all just organic pain-collectors racing toward oblivion.

CBD: Blind you were born wrong it seems

BlindFools: How so?

GRS1: Blind, you just dont give anyone a chance

BlindFools: GRS1: go ahead.

CBD: GRS1 he is blind to reality

GRS1: Give me something to prove wrong.

CBD: his truth is all he cares about

BlindFools: GRS1: prove me wrong.

CBD: his fundy agenda

BlindFools: GRS1: okay...

GRS1: OK, about what? Your choice.

BlindFools: GRS1: there is nothing wrong in using fear to control people.
BlindFools: GRS1: True or false?

TT: nothing wrong in using fear to control people? that is just plain wrong!!!!!

GRS1: Um, is that a personal opinion or a fact of life?

BlindFools: GRS1: fact of life, right?

GRS1: Says who? You? How can I prove an opinion as false?

BlindFools: GRS1: It's not opinion, law of nature - survival of fittest, right?

GRS1: "Your opinion is wrong!" there...
GRS1: Dude, you cant stay on one topic can you?

BlindFools: GRS1: look...

GRS1: What am I proving wrong here?

BlindFools: GRS1: using fear to control - is it morally wrong or not?
BlindFools: GRS1: yes or no

GRS1: What am I proving wrong?

GRS1: Its wrong.

BlindFools: GRS1: using fear to control - is it morally wrong or not?
BlindFools: GRS1: why?

GRS1: WRONG!

BlindFools: GRS1: based on what?

GRS1: Look, Im trying to prove you wrong on something, and all you are doing is asking questions..

BlindFools: GRS1: okay...
BlindFools: GRS1: my statement...

GRS1: WHAT AM I PROVING WRONG?
GRS1: You asked me a question.

BlindFools: GRS1: It's not wrong based on law of nature. prove that wrong.

CBD: Blind, Evolution is not an Atheist Plot

GRS1: A law of nature says to use fear to control others? Which one....

CBD: the study of evolution is not a good vs evil scenario

BlindFools: GRS1: Survival of the fittest by whatever means necessary, right?

CBD: Godbots like the use of fear, they are sorely lacking in teh reasonable prudence
CBD: and the plausibility categories

GRS1: That is an instinct in us, yes.

BlindFools: GRS1: So...
BlindFools: GRS1: using fear to control is not wrong.
BlindFools: GRS1: correcty?

GRS1: So my instinct demands that I control the people around me with fear?

CBD: Long Blind is just that Blind
CBD: by choice

BlindFools: GRS1: yes, to gain power to insure survival.

CBD: there is no measure of human Stupidity
CBD: it is in fact, as Einstein would have us beleive, Infinite
CBD: Long, they would all have us elevate faith over reason

GRS1: That is not an instinct, to control through fear.

BlindFools: GRS1: what is it?

GRS1: It is a concious decision. Not survival.

GRS1: Fear is an instinct. To induce fear is not.

BlindFools: GRS1: but what would make that decision wrong?

GRS1: To be aggressive, yes.

CBD: GRS, he is trying to lead you to MORALITY
CBD: then he will claim that Morality can Only come from god
CBD: and then you would Logicaly, have to conver to his particular cult

BlindFools: GRS1: what do you base your opinion on?

GRS1: A moral issue perhaps? To use people for survival is a cop out.

BlindFools: GRS1: Where do "morals" come from?

GRS1: Thay are part of the way a person was raised, upbringing, education,genetics....
GRS1: etc.

BlindFools: GRS1: exactly!!!...
BlindFools: GRS1: so...

GRS1: Yeah. So?

BlindFools: GRS1: nobody's morals ant any better than anyon elses, right?
BlindFools: GRS1: any*

GRS1: I disagree.

BlindFools: GRS1: but if they are based on all those different factors?

GRS1: Yeah?

BlindFools: GRS1: Is there something else they are based on?

GRS1: There are infinite things that shape them.

BlindFools: GRS1: But which set of morals is correct? And why?

GRS1: That is not an answer I can tell you. You have to figure that out on your own.

CBD: always leading toward a GOD , from which all morals flow

GRS1: Completely Circular.

BlindFools: GRS1: Fine, but what would make my morals ant better than yours?
BlindFools: GRS1: any*

GRS1: Say, More respect for others property, love for nature, etc

BlindFools: GRS1: Those are morals, not what they are based on...
BlindFools: GRS1: what if my morals are different than those listed?

CBD: Blind, face it, your religion hasn't a snowball's chance in Sonora of winning one convert
CBD: in here
CBD: GRS1, My Morals are based in Self Interest
CBD: Do unto others
CBD: No god need apply
CBD: we don't kill people, because we don't want other people Killing us
CBD: not because A Sky Fairy will Punish us forever if we do so
CBD: Blind is too dense to get it
CBD: yet he beleives himself to be superior
CBD: :::Go figure:::

GRS1: Maybe your dad beat you for example. You might beat your kids too

BlindFools: GRS1: exactly, so what makes that wrong?

GRS1: Beating your children? Um, lets see. Human law, love one another, the golden rule...

BlindFools: GRS1: okay...

GRS1: What is your argument anyway?

BlindFools: GRS1: you keep listng rules but no basis for them, so...
BlindFools: GRS1: do you think maybe that...

DE: Blind is our scribe.

GRS1: Ask for one.

CBD: grim tell him, self interest
CBD: simple

GRS1: Yup.

BlindFools: GRS1: there are rules that transcend nature and human nature?

GRS1: TBD.
GRS1: WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT TO BE PROVED WRONG?

CBD: Grimm, see he has once again come full circle

GRS1: Yes he has......*sigh*

CBD: GRS, Blind is an Intellectual coward

GRS1: Im beginning to think that

BlindFools: GRS1: again...
BlindFools: GRS1: do you think maybe that...
BlindFools: GRS1: there are rules that transcend nature and human nature

GRS1: Is that a question or a statement?

BlindFools: GRS1: a question.

CBD: grim it is a COmmand in question form
CBD: it worked for him

GRS1: I cannot dissprove a question.

BlindFools: GRS1: no, just answer it.

GRS1: Give me a statement.

CBD: so he figures everyone is as easliy impressed by such ********

GRS1: You are a coward.

BlindFools: GRS1: will you answer the question?

GRS1: Come at me with a good statement!

GRS1: I planned to dissprove you and you run.

BlindFools: GRS1: Okay...
BlindFools: GRS1: our "morals" should be based on survival of the fittets - that's my statem
BlindFools: GRS1: ent.

GRS1: Ahhhhh! Finally! and you are wrong.....

BlindFools: GRS1: based on what?

GRS1: Survival of the fittest was designed for fighting to preserve genes,lifelines,families.....

DAtheist: GRS1 , no sorry, it was not Designed
DAtheist: it evolved
DAtheist: we coudl say it was designed by evolution
DAtheist: for the sake of arguement

BlindFools: GRS1: and?
BlindFools: GRS1: So what law is higher than that?

GRS1: Survival is now not a nessesity, therefore to base morals on an instinct
GRS1: millions of years old is folly.

BlindFools: GRS1: the more power you attain, the higher your chances for survival, right?

GRS1: Not exactly. Russian coups ant turmoil has ended many genetic lines in power.
GRS1: Hitler for example

BlindFools: GRS1: What law is greater than the law of nature?

GRS1: Are you still there?

BlindFools: GRS1: yes
BlindFools: GRS1: What law is greater than the law of nature?

GRS1: If I were to kill my friend for the last hamburger in the bag, that is wrong.

BlindFools: GRS1: based on what?
BlindFools: GRS1: why is it wrong?

DAtheist: Blind, there is no law
DAtheist: get it?
DAtheist: just legislation
DAtheist: the law of gravity only exists given certain parameters
DAtheist: take away the earth, and teh stone will not fall

GRS1: Survival is now a concious thought. No longer an INSTINCT.
GRS1: Thus it is now a CHOICE. and a moral one.

BlindFools: GRS1: There are many people that would disagree.
BlindFools: GRS1: And what is that morality based on?

GRS1: Okay. There are also mass murderers in this world.

BlindFools: GRS1: Tell me what the other moralty is based on?

GRS1: Everyone has a different sense of morality
GRS1: Built on many things.

BlindFools: GRS1: so which one is right?

DAtheist: Morality is based on personal Interest
DAtheist: self preservationDAtheist: given enough reasons to commit any act, no matter how horrible, man will do it
DAtheist: as long as he can justify it to himself

BlindFools: GRS1: What is someone robs and kills you for your wallet?

GRS1: Which morality? What are the choices?

DAtheist: Lions kill their own young when ther eis no food

GRS1: I die.

BlindFools: GRS1: What if they did it for survival?
BlindFools: GRS1: Would it be morally wrong?

GRS1: THAT would be. He didnt have to kill me, just rob me.

BlindFools: GRS1: What if he thought you would point hin out?

GRS1: My death wont feed him
GRS1: He would still survive.

BlindFools: GRS1: He would be getting rid of a witness - right?
BlindFools: GRS1: He would just be thinking ahead, right?

GRS1: Yes. But he would still live on....

DAtheist: grim, are you having the morality discussion with Blind?

GRS1: Yup

DAtheist: are you aware that Blind is an Atheist hater?

BlindFools: GRS1: But if caught, he would go to jail.

GRS1: No, Blind.
GRS1: Yes. But he would still survive.

DAtheist: a ******* who feels threatened by Atheism?

BlindFools: GRS1: Okay...

FIA: blind has been on ignore for QUITE some time

BlindFools: GRS1: But why would it be morally wrong for him to kill you?

DAtheist: he is AKA FaithINEvidense teh UberFundy ******* who frequents this chat

GRS1: It was a choice to kill me. Not something that HAD to be done.

BlindFools: GRS1: What if hos morals were that he could kill you and it not be wrong?

GRS1: Isnt that true?

BlindFools: GRS1: his*

BlindFools: GRS1: What if his morals say that he can kill you?

GRS1: Then that is his problem and he would be given therapy.
GRS1: Then those are his morals.

HCAT: What exactly does Blindfool believe? He seems to be all over the place.

BlindFools: GRS1: Only if caught by those with more power, right?

DAtheist: HCAT he is a Fundy

BlindFools: GRS1: So which set of morals is right?

DAtheist: an Atheist Fearing Fundy
DAtheist: most of em just fear teh Sky Fairy
DAtheist: :)

GRS1: People are robbed and not killed everyday and NOT caught.
GRS1: the robber that is....

BlindFools: GRS1: but if he was...
BlindFools: GRS1: caught...
BlindFools: GRS1: wouldn't he brought to a justice by those with more power?

GRS1: Then it would be survival of the fittest. He got caught by the law cuz he was weak.

BlindFools: GRS1: The justice is dictated by those in power, right?

GRS1: Justice is not the issue.

BlindFools: GRS1: Now we are back to square one, right?

GRS1: You are trying to stretch this conversation out.

BlindFools: GRS1: You brought up the fact that he would be caught.
BlindFools: GRS1: So...
BlindFools: GRS1: let's forget about man's justice...

GRS1: No actually. Skroll up, YOU did.

BlindFools: GRS1: What why be "morally" wrong for him to kill you?

DAtheist: GRS, hehehe, see that? let's forget about man's Justice
DAtheist: what comes after that?
DAtheist: why GOd's Justice!
DAtheist: Logicaly!
DAtheist: ********

BlindFools: GRS1: sorry...
BlindFools: GRS1: messed up there...

GRS1: We are arguing about ruling others through fear, yes?

BlindFools: GRS1: yes, and if it is morally wrong or not.

GRS1: It is because survival does not demand it.
GRS1: (wrong)
GRS1: Theres another one for ya.

BlindFools: GRS1: For some people it does, aquisition of money and power...
BlindFools: GRS1: increases chances of survival, right?

GRS1: Those are the weaker, then. Without power they cannot survive? They should not make it


BlindFools: GRS1: Exactly my point, so there's nothing wrong with it...
BlindFools: GRS1: survival of the fittest.

GRS1: There is something wrong with it. They arent fit.

DAtheist: Blind that is an illogical conclusion
DAtheist: which completely ignores self interest

BlindFools: GRS1: They are if they can control others.

GRS1: There was no power plays in Neanderthal tribes was there?

BlindFools: GRS1: If you are on top, you are fit.

GRS1: Controlling others will not ensure your survival.

BlindFools: GRS1: Then who were their leaders?

GRS1: "Individual hunter gatherers, right?"

BlindFools: GRS1: I doubt they had democracy.

GRS1: Families?

BlindFools: GRS1: So the dumb and weak were the leaders?

GRS1: Back then it was instinct. Today it is not.

BlindFools: GRS1: ANd you base that on what?
BlindFools: GRS1: Okay...

GRS1: No, they learned and EVOLVED with each other.

BlindFools: GRS1: Then why do people conatantly strive for more money and power when they...
BlindFools: GRS1: have enough to survive?

GRS1: What if the ones that invented the wheel never survived?

DAtheist: GRS1, Blnd still begging the question?

GRS1: Its called GREED.
GRS1: Period.

BlindFools: GRS1: Greed is a moral issue, right?

GRS1: Any way. I proved MY point.
GRS1: *yawn*
GRS1: byebye all.

BlindFools
: GRS1: alright, bye.