Act 2: More of the
same, yet wackier
LAW359: how do you report a site?
HS: LAW359...go to the site (see the url
above) and click on the "notify aol" button.
HS: it's an aol-owned site, so they have
control over its contents.
L359: ok
T: lol - enough - Blind is reported for
chat disruption
BlindFools: T: I have not
disrupted - i have vigorously defended atheism.
J88: Umm - okay.... I just say
BlindFools website - Can someone tell him he needs
to find
J88: something better to do with his time... cause I have him
Clicked
T: and also for disrespect shown to members
who frequent this location
BlindFools: T: Prove otherwise.
BlindFools: J88: <-- flight
BlindFools: Atheism rules!
BlindFools: Chance and time love you.
T: scroll up blind fool...
T: you will find offending disruption
BlindFools: T: please paste
it for me.
L359: ok he's been reported
J88: The Website: http://hometown.aol.com/BlindFools/
J88: has been reported to TOS
HS: what is god's way, lab? and why do
the peoples of earth have so many different gods?
BlindFools: There is no god.
HS: J88...you and me both!
J88: Coolio
BlindFools: J88: And i nominated it as top site.
T: too much to paste actually
BlindFools: Science rules.
BlindFools: T: very vagie
- not much of a case.
BlindFools: T: vague*
T: repetitive commentary - too much to
paste
T: doesn't matter - 888 has is
T: *it
BlindFools: T: I like my
chances - I have defended atheism in here, no?
BlindFools: T: What have
I said against atheism?
BlindFools: T: nothing.
T: actually - most of what I've seen is
constant repeating of commentary
T: already stated by others...blind
BlindFools: T: what - scrolling?
T: which is a reportable...offense
BlindFools: T: Your case
is weak...
BlindFools: T: what have
I said that you disagree with?
T: nope - valid...three or more repititions
of aol comment...blind
BlindFools: T: And i have
not been the one insulting.
T: not about disagreement
T: or insult
T: about repetition
BlindFools: T: But I have
been talking to many people, right?
T: and mocking people by repeating their
commentary
LAW359: i hope you lose your
site pal
BlindFools: T: not repitition
if to many people.
T: but little button will take care of
that...
BlindFools: T: I do not
repeat others - I'm too good for that.
T: aol comment - three times repeated
in a row...blind
BlindFools: T: I paste
others names and put my own commentary.
K: yep T be very careful of the devil named blind
BlindFools: T: What have
I said that you disagree with?
BlindFools: T: anything?
T: T: I paste
others names and put my own commentary.
KB: T: T: I paste
others names and put my own commentary like the loser I am
T: the above is what I mean...blind
BlindFools: T: What does
that supposed to mean?
BlindFools: T: I don't
paste what others have written, just their name.
BlindFools: T: It's better
seen that way, that's all.
BlindFools: T: right?
T: no...blind...you disrupt because you
post lies coming out of mouths of others
TT: Blind, for some reason i find it annoying
for people to past SNs like that
TT: *****!
BlindFools: T: show me
once where i pasted what someone else has said.
BlindFools: T: No, that
is my way of getting the attention of who I am talking to.
T: it's not about what someone else has
said...it's about putting your lies next to
T: the names of others...blind
BlindFools: T: I do not
try to pretend to be others - I'm too good for that.
CBD: Blind, you are a wacko
CBD: a fundy
CBD: perhaps the missing link
CBD: :)
HCAT: Boy, the commentary between Blindfools and others has been
riveting,heh heh.
BlindFools: T: Anyone can
see that you are not writing this.
T: whey you post another's name and your
words next to it
T: you demeen their character...blind
BlindFools: T: your case
is weak.
CBD: Blind hates Atheists, because he KNOWS
we are right
T: you show disrespect...blind
BlindFools: T: Do you disagree
with any content of mine?
T: and discourtesy
BlindFools: T: how?
T: yes...blind
HS: grim...blind and labi are our fundie
guests for tonight.
BlindFools: T: what?
T: I disagree with your using my name
T: and it's against courtesy rules
BlindFools: T: you don't
get ot, do you?
BlindFools: T: it*
T: it's misleading and disrespectful
BlindFools: T: But, since
you asked (for the first time) I will stop.
BlindFools: Is this better?
BlindFools: May I type you name out?
T: lol - it's already too late...blind
T: the report is long gone
BlindFools: T: She asked,
and I did so, right?
T: and - at least you could ask gender
- before determining fem...blind
T: that's pretty bigoted
T: and sexist...
T: and that can be reported also
BlindFools: lol
T: sexist commentary - yep
BlindFools: everyone report that too
T: (think I'll switch...put blind on ignore
and listen to lab a while)
BlindFools: Religious leaders are more highly evolved
than atheists.
T: BlindFools:
Religious leaders are more highly evolved than atheists.
BlindFools: teach chooses flight instead of fight
CBD: Blind, isn't there some rule about
keeping the company of teh UNgodly?
CBD: if Atheists don't count as UNGoldy,
no one does
T: that's one...blind...
T: I knew there would be one...
BlindFools: T: exactly.
BlindFools: They have invented a way to get people
to "voluntarily" submit control to them.
T: BlindFools:
Religious leaders are more highly evolved than atheists.
T: BlindFools:
Religious leaders are more highly evolved than atheists.
BlindFools: Yes they are.
BlindFools: They have invented a way to get people
to "voluntarily" submit control to them.
CBD: Doesn't the Bible have some rule about
calling others Fool?
CBD: like you get your *** burned in hell
for calling other people fool or somethin
T: BlindFools:
Religious leaders are more highly evolved than atheists.
C: I can't imagine why people
tell Christians to shut up. I guess they don't have an ignore.
T: actually yes...scroll up
GRS1: Blind is gonna burn for that one...
BlindFools: GRS1: Why?
based on what?
GRS1: Why what? Wasnt that a judgement?
CBD: Blind, doesn't the Bible have some
rule about , if your message is not well recieved
CBD: that you should shake the dsut from
your feet and move on to the next venue?
CBD: Doesn't teh Bible have some rule about
casting your pearls before swine?
CBD: oink
CBD: oink
BlindFools: GRS1: Mine,
yes. Based on the law of nature.
GRS1: Xtians are allowed to judge others?
Since when?
BlindFools: GRS1: No, it
was merely survival of the fittest.
BlindFools: GRS1: Nothing
wrong with that.
BlindFools: GRS1: right?
CBD: Blind, as a Christian, you **** worse
than as a Scientist
GRS1: What the h*** are you blathering about?
You make no sence...
GRS1: sense*
T: just click him...GRS1
BlindFools: GRS1: Okay...
GRS1: What are you talkin about?
BlindFools: GRS1: what
is the bases of religion?
BlindFools: GRS1: basis*
BlindFools: GRS1: power?
TT: Blind, would you just stop with the
pasting of the name like that!
GRS1: How does that have anything to do with
you judging me as unevolved?
BlindFools: TT, I will not do yours.
T: TT - just report then click him...is
idiot
CBD: All Religions are built on the fears
of the greedy few
TT: he IS an idiot!
BlindFools: But what is wrong with that?
CBD: pardon, built on the fears of the many
CBD: by the greedy few
BlindFools: What's wrong with using fear to get
ahead?
CBD: Christinaity is a Blatant rip off of
several earlier religions
T: well - gotta run...night all
BlindFools: Nobody has an answer?
BlindFools: What is wrong with using fear to control
people?
BlindFools: Anyone?
BlindFools: <-- has not been proven wrong yet.
J88: I have an exam tomorrow
J88: goodnight all ;)
BlindFools: We are all just organic pain-collectors
racing toward oblivion.
CBD: Blind you were born wrong it seems
BlindFools: How so?
GRS1: Blind, you just dont give anyone a
chance
BlindFools: GRS1: go ahead.
CBD: GRS1 he is blind to reality
GRS1: Give me something to prove wrong.
CBD: his truth is all he cares about
BlindFools: GRS1: prove
me wrong.
CBD: his fundy agenda
BlindFools: GRS1: okay...
GRS1: OK, about what? Your choice.
BlindFools: GRS1: there
is nothing wrong in using fear to control people.
BlindFools: GRS1: True
or false?
TT: nothing wrong in using fear to control
people? that is just plain wrong!!!!!
GRS1: Um, is that a personal opinion or a
fact of life?
BlindFools: GRS1: fact
of life, right?
GRS1: Says who? You? How can I prove an opinion
as false?
BlindFools: GRS1: It's
not opinion, law of nature - survival of fittest, right?
GRS1: "Your opinion is wrong!"
there...
GRS1: Dude, you cant stay on one topic can
you?
BlindFools: GRS1: look...
GRS1: What am I proving wrong here?
BlindFools: GRS1: using
fear to control - is it morally wrong or not?
BlindFools: GRS1: yes or
no
GRS1: What am I proving wrong?
GRS1: Its wrong.
BlindFools: GRS1: using
fear to control - is it morally wrong or not?
BlindFools: GRS1: why?
GRS1: WRONG!
BlindFools: GRS1: based
on what?
GRS1: Look, Im trying to prove you wrong
on something, and all you are doing is asking questions..
BlindFools: GRS1: okay...
BlindFools: GRS1: my statement...
GRS1: WHAT AM I PROVING WRONG?
GRS1: You asked me a question.
BlindFools: GRS1: It's
not wrong based on law of nature. prove that wrong.
CBD: Blind, Evolution is not an Atheist
Plot
GRS1: A law of nature says to use fear to
control others? Which one....
CBD: the study of evolution is not a good
vs evil scenario
BlindFools: GRS1: Survival
of the fittest by whatever means necessary, right?
CBD: Godbots like the use of fear, they
are sorely lacking in teh reasonable prudence
CBD: and the plausibility categories
GRS1: That is an instinct in us, yes.
BlindFools: GRS1: So...
BlindFools: GRS1: using
fear to control is not wrong.
BlindFools: GRS1: correcty?
GRS1: So my instinct demands that I control
the people around me with fear?
CBD: Long Blind is just that Blind
CBD: by choice
BlindFools: GRS1: yes,
to gain power to insure survival.
CBD: there is no measure of human Stupidity
CBD: it is in fact, as Einstein would have
us beleive, Infinite
CBD: Long, they would all have us elevate
faith over reason
GRS1: That is not an instinct, to control
through fear.
BlindFools: GRS1: what
is it?
GRS1: It is a concious decision. Not survival.
GRS1: Fear is an instinct. To induce fear
is not.
BlindFools: GRS1: but what
would make that decision wrong?
GRS1: To be aggressive, yes.
CBD: GRS, he is trying to lead you to MORALITY
CBD: then he will claim that Morality can
Only come from god
CBD: and then you would Logicaly, have to
conver to his particular cult
BlindFools: GRS1: what
do you base your opinion on?
GRS1: A moral issue perhaps? To use people
for survival is a cop out.
BlindFools: GRS1: Where
do "morals" come from?
GRS1: Thay are part of the way a person was
raised, upbringing, education,genetics....
GRS1: etc.
BlindFools: GRS1: exactly!!!...
BlindFools: GRS1: so...
GRS1: Yeah. So?
BlindFools: GRS1: nobody's
morals ant any better than anyon elses, right?
BlindFools: GRS1: any*
GRS1: I disagree.
BlindFools: GRS1: but if
they are based on all those different factors?
GRS1: Yeah?
BlindFools: GRS1: Is there
something else they are based on?
GRS1: There are infinite things that shape
them.
BlindFools: GRS1: But which
set of morals is correct? And why?
GRS1: That is not an answer I can tell you.
You have to figure that out on your own.
CBD: always leading toward a GOD , from
which all morals flow
GRS1: Completely Circular.
BlindFools: GRS1: Fine,
but what would make my morals ant better than yours?
BlindFools: GRS1: any*
GRS1: Say, More respect for others property,
love for nature, etc
BlindFools: GRS1: Those
are morals, not what they are based on...
BlindFools: GRS1: what
if my morals are different than those listed?
CBD: Blind, face it, your religion hasn't
a snowball's chance in Sonora of winning one convert
CBD: in here
CBD: GRS1, My Morals are based in Self Interest
CBD: Do unto others
CBD: No god need apply
CBD: we don't kill people, because we don't
want other people Killing us
CBD: not because A Sky Fairy will Punish
us forever if we do so
CBD: Blind is too dense to get it
CBD: yet he beleives himself to be superior
CBD: :::Go figure:::
GRS1: Maybe your dad beat you for example.
You might beat your kids too
BlindFools: GRS1: exactly,
so what makes that wrong?
GRS1: Beating your children? Um, lets see.
Human law, love one another, the golden rule...
BlindFools: GRS1: okay...
GRS1: What is your argument anyway?
BlindFools: GRS1: you keep
listng rules but no basis for them, so...
BlindFools: GRS1: do you
think maybe that...
DE: Blind is our scribe.
GRS1: Ask for one.
CBD: grim tell him, self interest
CBD: simple
GRS1: Yup.
BlindFools: GRS1: there
are rules that transcend nature and human nature?
GRS1: TBD.
GRS1: WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT TO BE PROVED
WRONG?
CBD: Grimm, see he has once again come full
circle
GRS1: Yes he has......*sigh*
CBD: GRS, Blind is an Intellectual coward
GRS1: Im beginning to think that
BlindFools: GRS1: again...
BlindFools: GRS1: do you
think maybe that...
BlindFools: GRS1: there
are rules that transcend nature and human nature
GRS1: Is that a question or a statement?
BlindFools: GRS1: a question.
CBD: grim it is a COmmand in question form
CBD: it worked for him
GRS1: I cannot dissprove a question.
BlindFools: GRS1: no, just
answer it.
GRS1: Give me a statement.
CBD: so he figures everyone is as easliy
impressed by such ********
GRS1: You are a coward.
BlindFools: GRS1: will
you answer the question?
GRS1: Come at me with a good statement!
GRS1: I planned to dissprove you and you
run.
BlindFools: GRS1: Okay...
BlindFools: GRS1: our "morals"
should be based on survival of the fittets - that's my statem
BlindFools: GRS1: ent.
GRS1: Ahhhhh! Finally! and you are wrong.....
BlindFools: GRS1: based
on what?
GRS1: Survival of the fittest was designed
for fighting to preserve genes,lifelines,families.....
DAtheist: GRS1 , no sorry, it was not Designed
DAtheist: it evolved
DAtheist: we coudl say it was designed by evolution
DAtheist: for the sake of arguement
BlindFools: GRS1: and?
BlindFools: GRS1: So what
law is higher than that?
GRS1: Survival is now not a nessesity, therefore
to base morals on an instinct
GRS1: millions of years old is folly.
BlindFools: GRS1: the more
power you attain, the higher your chances for survival, right?
GRS1: Not exactly. Russian coups ant turmoil
has ended many genetic lines in power.
GRS1: Hitler for example
BlindFools: GRS1: What
law is greater than the law of nature?
GRS1: Are you still there?
BlindFools: GRS1: yes
BlindFools: GRS1: What
law is greater than the law of nature?
GRS1: If I were to kill my friend for the
last hamburger in the bag, that is wrong.
BlindFools: GRS1: based
on what?
BlindFools: GRS1: why is
it wrong?
DAtheist: Blind, there is no law
DAtheist: get it?
DAtheist: just legislation
DAtheist: the law of gravity only exists given
certain parameters
DAtheist: take away the earth, and teh stone will
not fall
GRS1: Survival is now a concious thought.
No longer an INSTINCT.
GRS1: Thus it is now a CHOICE. and a moral
one.
BlindFools: GRS1: There
are many people that would disagree.
BlindFools: GRS1: And what
is that morality based on?
GRS1: Okay. There are also mass murderers
in this world.
BlindFools: GRS1: Tell
me what the other moralty is based on?
GRS1: Everyone has a different sense of morality
GRS1: Built on many things.
BlindFools: GRS1: so which
one is right?
DAtheist: Morality is based on personal Interest
DAtheist: self preservationDAtheist:
given enough reasons to commit any act, no matter how horrible,
man will do it
DAtheist: as long as he can justify it to himself
BlindFools: GRS1: What
is someone robs and kills you for your wallet?
GRS1: Which morality? What are the choices?
DAtheist: Lions kill their own young when ther
eis no food
GRS1: I die.
BlindFools: GRS1: What
if they did it for survival?
BlindFools: GRS1: Would
it be morally wrong?
GRS1: THAT would be. He didnt have to kill
me, just rob me.
BlindFools: GRS1: What
if he thought you would point hin out?
GRS1: My death wont feed him
GRS1: He would still survive.
BlindFools: GRS1: He would
be getting rid of a witness - right?
BlindFools: GRS1: He would
just be thinking ahead, right?
GRS1: Yes. But he would still live on....
DAtheist: grim, are you having the morality discussion
with Blind?
GRS1: Yup
DAtheist: are you aware that Blind is an Atheist
hater?
BlindFools: GRS1: But if
caught, he would go to jail.
GRS1: No, Blind.
GRS1: Yes. But he would still survive.
DAtheist: a ******* who feels threatened by Atheism?
BlindFools: GRS1: Okay...
FIA: blind has been on ignore for QUITE some time
BlindFools: GRS1: But why
would it be morally wrong for him to kill you?
DAtheist: he is AKA FaithINEvidense teh UberFundy
******* who frequents this chat
GRS1: It was a choice to kill me. Not something
that HAD to be done.
BlindFools: GRS1: What
if hos morals were that he could kill you and it not be wrong?
GRS1: Isnt that true?
BlindFools: GRS1: his*
BlindFools: GRS1: What
if his morals say that he can kill you?
GRS1: Then that is his problem and he would
be given therapy.
GRS1: Then those are his morals.
HCAT: What exactly does Blindfool
believe? He seems to be all over the place.
BlindFools: GRS1: Only
if caught by those with more power, right?
DAtheist: HCAT he is a Fundy
BlindFools: GRS1: So which
set of morals is right?
DAtheist: an Atheist Fearing Fundy
DAtheist: most of em just fear teh Sky Fairy
DAtheist: :)
GRS1: People are robbed and not killed everyday
and NOT caught.
GRS1: the robber that is....
BlindFools: GRS1: but if
he was...
BlindFools: GRS1: caught...
BlindFools: GRS1: wouldn't
he brought to a justice by those with more power?
GRS1: Then it would be survival of the fittest.
He got caught by the law cuz he was weak.
BlindFools: GRS1: The justice
is dictated by those in power, right?
GRS1: Justice is not the issue.
BlindFools: GRS1: Now we
are back to square one, right?
GRS1: You are trying to stretch this conversation
out.
BlindFools: GRS1: You brought
up the fact that he would be caught.
BlindFools: GRS1: So...
BlindFools: GRS1: let's
forget about man's justice...
GRS1: No actually. Skroll up, YOU did.
BlindFools: GRS1: What
why be "morally" wrong for him to kill you?
DAtheist: GRS, hehehe, see that? let's forget
about man's Justice
DAtheist: what comes after that?
DAtheist: why GOd's Justice!
DAtheist: Logicaly!
DAtheist: ********
BlindFools: GRS1: sorry...
BlindFools: GRS1: messed
up there...
GRS1: We are arguing about ruling others
through fear, yes?
BlindFools: GRS1: yes,
and if it is morally wrong or not.
GRS1: It is because survival does not demand
it.
GRS1: (wrong)
GRS1: Theres another one for ya.
BlindFools: GRS1: For some
people it does, aquisition of money and power...
BlindFools: GRS1: increases
chances of survival, right?
GRS1: Those are the weaker, then. Without
power they cannot survive? They should not make it
BlindFools: GRS1: Exactly
my point, so there's nothing wrong with it...
BlindFools: GRS1: survival
of the fittest.
GRS1: There is something wrong with it. They
arent fit.
DAtheist: Blind that is an illogical conclusion
DAtheist: which completely ignores self interest
BlindFools: GRS1: They
are if they can control others.
GRS1: There was no power plays in Neanderthal
tribes was there?
BlindFools: GRS1: If you
are on top, you are fit.
GRS1: Controlling others will not ensure
your survival.
BlindFools: GRS1: Then
who were their leaders?
GRS1: "Individual hunter gatherers,
right?"
BlindFools: GRS1: I doubt
they had democracy.
GRS1: Families?
BlindFools: GRS1: So the
dumb and weak were the leaders?
GRS1: Back then it was instinct. Today it
is not.
BlindFools: GRS1: ANd you
base that on what?
BlindFools: GRS1: Okay...
GRS1: No, they learned and EVOLVED with each
other.
BlindFools: GRS1: Then
why do people conatantly strive for more money and power when
they...
BlindFools: GRS1: have
enough to survive?
GRS1: What if the ones that invented the
wheel never survived?
DAtheist: GRS1, Blnd still begging the question?
GRS1: Its called GREED.
GRS1: Period.
BlindFools: GRS1: Greed
is a moral issue, right?
GRS1: Any way. I proved MY point.
GRS1: *yawn*
GRS1: byebye all.
BlindFools: GRS1: alright, bye.
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