our motto -Semper in faecibus sumus sole profundum variat (we’re always in the shit it’s only the depth that varies) |
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Why the Name? JHC : To elaborate on our original team name, it comes from a mutual friend of Dave Gee and Doc, called Bernie Shaw. In the opinion of Dave he looked like the famed football presenter, on the flimsy pretext that he had a big chin and sported a goatee beard. Bernie used to like going to singles clubs frequented by women of a certain age, hence Jimmy Hill or JHC. (We think there was one in Bromley called Square One). Thus a middle aged divorcee is known as a Jimmy Hill Club Member (JHCM), usually identified by having "ro ning" (no ring), an unsuitably short skirt, bottle blonde hair etc. When Dave and Doc were founding the quiz team, they thought JHC would be a good name (they had originally tried out BMC for Beaten Men's Club but thought this was not abstruse enough). Jay H Seedy: With the demise of the Cyberdrinkers, two of their members Matt and Bryan joined us and so we decided to change our name to reflect their origins. As the Cyberdrinkers shortened name was CD it would be easy enough to add this to JHC to make JHCD. However over a few pints the alternative name Jay H Seedy was thought more appropriate. Accrington Cylindricals: We felt the call for a name change when we hit rock bottom of the League ending up bottom of the second division. As the team had evolved from one of the four founder members of the Quiz League, wecould see parallels in our predicament similar to the of the great Accrington Stanley in football. As a mark of respect we felt our name should reflect this fact and we should call ourselves Accrington Seedy. But hey that wouldnot be too perplexing for the average quizzer to work out. So going back to the original version of Seedy we get CD, which are modern, so we toyed with Accrington LP and Accrington Vinyl until the even earlier forefather of CD was hit upon, the Cylinder and then it was just a touch of cosmetics to come up with the name Accrington Cylindricals 2009 - We will be changing it to the ACCIES |
(We must change our lead Banner now that we won the Cup in 2005) |
Quote from the Evening Standard on 5th March 1998
It is believed that the record for a quiz team’s thirst is held by the JHC Quiz team from the Royal Oak in Tabard St, London SE1 |
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This is quizzing at its very best. You're playing a team with one player short – and you are 20 –18 up at half time. Time to put on the pressure - not exactly. How about scoring one point a round till the final round when Doc wakes up to get his question right and ups the tempo to 2 points. Pure quizzing class |
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Accrington Cylindricals Pen Pictures bottom of page |
Although it breaks all the rules - action photo of the Jay H Seedy and Hump in quiz action. Colin, Jake and Matt are more interested in having their picture taken than officiating and playing whilst Ron always puts drinking before anything and John is absent taking the photo - Doc was there but was banging his head against the wall |
Cyberdinkers v JHC - playoff for promotion to Division 1 Venue Priory Arms – spring 1997
The JHC arrived early to get in some serious training, however being rather conservative they soon settled down to a steady consumption of Harvey’s Best after a couple of pints of Dents for warm ups. Having beaten the Cyberdrinkers on the last three occasions, the team although quietly confident, needed the steadying hand of an experienced respected captain, but were lumbered with Doc instead. He controversially put Colin number one, moving the normal opener John to number three. This tactical move was to have an important impact later on in the game, when it was found that Colin was not only a Train Spotter but was in to Ornithology in a big way. (Even sadder as most people only watch birds with big tits). Donald Yule tuned up to see that the rules were followed to the letter and announced he would score. He was immediately upset, as both teams had listed their names on the scoring sheet on the opposite side to which they sat, when the Cyberdrinkers logically pointed out that in the second half they would be on the correct sides he wasn’t placated, but winged on. He had his first embolism when Dave Townsend said if he liked, both sides could change their seating arrangements at half time a point eagerly picked up by other Cyberdrinkers. Colin later told us that he heard Mr Yule mutter at this point that he didn’t expect anything different with this level of intelligence. After Donald had calmed down, the Doc won the toss and took a risky decision to bat first and was rewarded by having a 4-point deficit at half time. Whilst collecting extra refreshments for the second half both teams commented on how agitated Donald was becoming due to the lack of reverence during the match for his 95-page rulebook. Things took a turn for the worse by the end of round 6 as the JHC had fallen further behind. It should be mentioned at this point that the gallant Cyberdrinkers were a man down, so potentially they could be dropping a point a round, Doc our captain was in deep shit and he knew it. On the brighter side Donald was near to apoplexy, in the way that both teams were happy to accommodate each other in the spirit of genuine regard they had for each other and the complete disregard for the rulebook. Round seven provided a life line for the ex Rugby and Oxford skip, the team finally realising that if they lost they would have to play Donald next season as he had just started a new second division side, at last did something right. Colin, as mentioned earlier revealed his bird watching habits and the rest of the team managed maximum marks plus two bonus points. The Harvey drinkers were in the lead at last. In the last round the tension mounted and the scores were level with half the questions gone, not forgetting the main purpose of the evening, both team still vied to set off the touch paper to a potential Donald Yule pyrotechnic display. The lucky winner was John who asked for an update on the scores, when Sir Donald bulked at this perfectly legal request, the flippant Cyberdrinking captain Bryan said, “Go on Donald its only a game.” There was a great rumbling followed by an immense explosion as the great man, eyes bulging stated in his measured Scottish accent …… “Listen here laddie, I have written and revised the rules twice and nowhere” The rest was boring and forgotten in the mists of Harvey’s. All were surprised with the venom of the outburst but were extremely satisfied in the way that Mr Yule had embarrassed himself again with his total lack of interpersonal skills. The rest of the watching League officials were dismayed by the event and so the rest of the match became an anticlimax. The game finally rested on Doc answering his simple question correctly to win, which he did after milking the occasion for all its worth in true DY fashion. In the bar afterwards Mr Y was shown rule 3.12 from the hand book that in the last round either captain had the right to be told the score only to be informed by Donald it was a misprint! Whilst the JHC luxuriated in their victory, the lads from the Cyberdrinkers continued to bait the Scot, until he relented and apologised. Finally, after being reminded a few times, Doc brought the team a congratulatory half pint of Harvey’s, which whilst being a long way from a champagne celebration, was well deserved for the rest of the team who managed to make up for the ex public schoolboy’s shortcomings as a captain. |
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Ron, Dave and Jim from Rosslyn Park pictured at the 2007 Charity night. |
Be a pub quiz champion -from the Evening Standard
Donald Yule knows a lot. "If a question is on jazz, the Second World War or Scotland, that is two points in the bag," he says. Yule competes in the Quiz League of London, which he helped to establish in 1990. "It is like football. Every team has a home pub, and you play every team home and away. On Tuesdays." His team, the Barbicans, topped the league last season. The league was set up when Yule, by, then a veteran of the Northern quiz scene, came to the capital: "You just had bog standard pub brewery leagues. I had competed in the Wirral league, but there was nothing similar in the South." (Now competition is fierce and the league is a serious business. "We are a cut above normal pub quizzing. Our I questions are harder than Master mind." These players are not typical pub quiz contestants: "Of course you quiz with a pint in your hand. But you cannot play under the influence. You need to keep alpha brain patterns." Sometimes the tension boils over: "Once a competitor bit someone on the opposite team," he says, " but we believe in hospitality. After the game every- I one has a drink together." Then there have been TV appearances: "I went on Mastermind once. I sat down, said my name then the camera broke. We had to start all over again.” He reached the semi-final. As a rule of thumb, he suggests the points following in blue: How the Accies measure up to Don’s thumb in red Do have four different kinds of person in your team. One must be good on pop culture. Oh dear will pension culture do? Don't fill your squad with academics. So f**k off Doc Do use a hand-signalling system so that the captain can see who knows what. We have the hand signals but not a captain who knows what he is doing. Don't use offensive hand signals. You will start a fight. But everyone knows Doc is a wanker Do meet in a neutral pub before an away game and have a pint. Only one pint! Don't arrive at the away pub separately and start talking to the locals (they will distract you from your game). I thought we were meeting at a neutral pub? Do let your partner come to the game to support you. Support you home that is, as you will be legless Don't argue over the questions -you might give the answers away. If we knew them Do congratulate the opposition on good play -it is good manners. And thank them for a darn good thrashing Don't show distress when you make a mistake, the opposition will feed off it. Doc take note and stop the head banging Do agree on a specified amount of time for sulking after a defeat. Is Donald serious? Don't try to improve your game by studying: real champions absorb knowledge by living not reading. We are doing something right Do wear a lucky sweater or drink a lucky drink. Leets jusst sttick to zee luckiee drinkie poohs Don’t get drunk. oh bollocks |
Bryan Lea, pictured in the middle is famous for wearing outrageous T-Shirts that remember bands that he should have long forgotten. Like Nicolas Anelka he has played for lots of quiz sides, promising a great deal, sometimes delivering spectacularly but usually not. Highest score 27 which is a lot more than any of the old JHC side ever managed, as well as a number of ‘full houses’. However it should be pointed out he also has an impressive number of zero scores, which would have been even more but for Bryan shamelessly abusing his captain’s position and nabbing bonus points. Greatest quizzing moment- setting a friendly quiz for the JHC & Diggers in 1994. The source he used was a Christmas pressie, Whittackers Almanac – because of the unsuitability of questions and the sobriety of the question master, this degenerated into a table quiz and then into a farce. Previous league quiz sides the Diggers and the Cyberdrinkers both sides folding under his captaincy. All in all a great asset for a team of interesting failures. |
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Accies win the All-London Cup in 2005 High drama in the final. Notice the difference in styles between both teams, hands out and fewer glasses on the table as opposed to the laid back 2 pints per man. As Accrington Cylindricals started with a 22-point advantage over holders Chester Army, and then took the first round 8-5, the result of the Final was never in doubt. In the event Cylindricals didn't even need the handicap, as they won 41-39 before the handicap was added in, which gave a final score of 63-39. |
Extract from Bryan's Journal
This morning I am a bit squiffy around the edges after playing in the Quiz League Final And last night we faced off the reigning champions with a 22 point head start. Not surprisingly, we won. What was a surprise, was the manner of our victory. We won with a score of 63 - 39, which you will notice is a win even without the 22 point bonus. Most satisfying - a real win, not just a handicap-assisted win. So now we have a nice, shiny silver cup to display. With the various team members holding it in rotation, we each get to keep it for about 8 weeks before pasing it on. On Friday we are planning an open-top bus tour around our local pub to celebrate the first time in 15 years of quizzing that we have ever won anything! |
Robert Willer looks on as the Accies pose for a winners picture, |
All London Cup Final 2000
The final of the All London Cup features two sides that are acquainted with the occasion. JHC (Royal Oak SE1) are founder members of our League and are playing with renewed vigour. They saw off their co-tenants Cyberdrinkers. took out Red Lion and gave a lesson in experience to Cat & Fiddle from Hertfordshire before sweeping away Priory Players 62-43 in the semi's on a lively night at Morpeth Arms. Having had much the worst of a final last year against Barbican they will be keen to put their name on a trophy for the first time. JHC (Start score 20) from John O'Connor; Roger Jacobson; Colin Donald and James Collenette. Ovalytes (Start score 10) Peter Johansen; Tony Kennedy; Stuart Solomons; Tony Sherwood. |
All London Cup Final 1999
Our own “North v South” match as one again our Final brings together teams whose venues are on opposite sides of the Thames. JHC are founder members of the League. and in their line up have four players who have played in their side since the League’s inception. This is their first Cup Final appearance and they took some distinguished scalps on the way here, beating London Scottish, Rue St George, We’re Puzzled and the Chelsea Builders. JHC John O'Connor; Roger Jacobson; Colin Donald and James Collenette. Barbican (Start score 10) Donald Yule, Paul Spencer-Thompson, Paul Plater and Noel Cunnane |
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Matthew ‘hello’ Bowden, Pictured right. When Garry Sobers scored 6 sixes in a match no one thought this could ever be repeated, similarly when Colin Donald fell asleep during a quiz match, all thought this unique until Matthew repeated the feat in the 2001/2 season. A even greater claim to fame in this department was when Matthew fell asleep during a 1:1 with his boss. His best scores at quizzing is when he is seconded to playing for the opposition. Without commenting on Matt’s pastimes it is on record that once when searching his pockets he discovered the numbers for a shabby hotel in Burton-on-Trent, a Wolverhampton Haemeophile, and a lady in Ashford who might possibly have burnt down a dead relatives house.Says a lot for this signing? |
Name: Roger Jacobson aka Jake. Greatest quizzing moment; Being in the Rose and Crown Team that made the Quarterfinals of the Sunday People’s National Sports Quiz in 1981. Strengths; A powerful neck to avoid being strangled by Colin. Weaknesses; beer as well |
This photo of Bryan sums him up to a T |
Name: James Sebastian Collenette. Aka Doc, 4-eyed public school tosser to name the ones we can print. The only non-founding member in of the JHC team despite his protestations otherwise. Greatest quizzing moment; getting up from the table at the Maximum break to bang his head against the wall after getting a question wrong. Best effort this season; going on holiday to India. Strengths; Lots. Weaknesses; Chemistry (in which he got an Oxford degree) |
Name: John O’Connor aka The Flying Pig. Greatest quizzing moment; Scoring 16 whilst playing and winning against the JHC for an earlier re-incarnation of the Ovalytes at Blackheath, who were a couple of players short. Best effort this season; still awaited. Strengths; Lots. Weaknesses; even more. |
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Name: Colin Donald aka Dog. Greatest quizzing moment; Turning up to a league match in Garret Lane, in which Donald Yule was officiating smashed out of his head after attending a hospitality function at Twickenham. The incident where his slurring of his answer Chardonnay, will always be remembered as was attempted strangulation of Jake a short while after. His passing out soon after was also a first; Donald had no help from the rulebook on how to deal with a sleeping player. Best effort this season; a re-enactment of his strangulation attempt versus the Barbican, this time his victim being Ronnie. Strengths; when reasonably sober can be our best player. Weaknesses beside supporting Arsenal is he now lives in Nantwich. |
Name: Ron Kirkman. Aka Ronnie Randall and Ronnie the Whip. Greatest quizzing moment; getting lost on the way to the Triple Crown in Richmond. Best effort highest ever league score against the Chester Army. Strengths; Anything old time. Weaknesses; beer. |
Name: Dave Gee aka The Invisible Man. First JHC club skipper.Pictured at Charity night 2007. Greatest quizzing moment; leaving the JHC for a six year sabbatical. Best effort turning up at the Chester Arms with an attractive young French lady in tow with the news he had been made redundant. Strengths; Dog Racing. Weaknesses; Dog Racing. |
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2007 Charity night. our standing at half time |
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John McDonnell, our latest signing acquired on a free transfer in 2007 from the Bread and Roses. John has a vast selection of sports shirts, which he wears appropriately. Pictured in an away Fulham shirt. John is so good that he reads newspapers upside down just for the fun of it. John is one of the reasons why our standing in the table has moved upwards from previous years. |
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Geocities now does not allow linking to other websites. Below links to put in your browser Quiz League of London www.qll.org.uk Bryan's Journal caddyman.livejournal.com/ Matt's Journal romney.livejournal.com/ |
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