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How can we stop abortion? (Page 13)
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VdK Member |
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posted 09-24-2000 05:54 PM
No you are that one. having answers that is. actually if twins develop, there are 2 sperm involved. has already been done in the lab. just like they fertilise the egg in the vitro, with one sperm, otherwise there is no body developing. closed minded are those that think homoeopathy quackery, without having tried it themselves, who believe that the complicated - such as man - can develop from the simple, without the simple having the information to produce the complicated, who think that life developed, where life just is and so on. [This message has been edited by VdK (edited 09-24-2000).]
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darwin Member |
posted 09-24-2000 05:49 PM
VdK wrote, So you assert that the body carries two individuals? darwin said if the sperm carries the soul, whatever that means, then the egg does too. That's all he said. Don't be so closed minded, one fertilized human egg can be split to make twins, you don't know all the answers.
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VdK Member |
posted 09-24-2000 05:20 PM
So you assert that the body carries two individuals? then you must be a schizophrenic. that's good though, you'll never be alone.
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darwin Member |
posted 09-24-2000 04:34 PM
quote: In a few thousand years darwin will be an ancient and and someone will say; "Some of the ancients of VNN assert that if the sperm carries the soul, whatever that means, then the egg does too."
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VdK Member |
posted 09-24-2000 03:08 PM
No the egg produces the body only. And also only if the spirit is present. Otherwise there would not be any need for sperm and every egg would automatically produce a baby. It is the spirit that makes the body grow, breathe, feel pain, hunger and thirst. Adead body does not experience because the soul is gone an egg does not producea body when the soul is not present. The ancients of all cultures assert that the sperm carries the soul.
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darwin Member |
posted 09-24-2000 10:18 AM
If sperm has a soul then the unfertilized egg must also have a soul.
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VdK Member |
posted 09-24-2000 01:57 AM
Darwin. Yes I do think that when the US president does his thing in the oval office, he is committing murder. The soul is carried by the semen and thus 'nonviolent birthcontrol' is a contradiction in terms. Justas a fetus canno grow without the presence of a soul, we need to consider how that soul came to be there. Ifthe egg is not 'fertilised', a woman has her period and the egg is expelled. Ifthe egg is fertilised, it will settle in the womb and develop into a fetus. So from this we can by inference understand that it is the semen which brings the soul into the equation. So justas I am against abortion I am against birthcontrol. My advice before was qualified by 'if people MUST have sex, then use the temperature method'. THis is not to advocate any birthcontrol, but a concession to those that areaddicted to sex. PS My views arethus more uncompromising than yours. Don't worry what people think about that. [This message has been edited by VdK (edited 09-24-2000).]
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darwin Member |
posted 09-24-2000 12:00 AM
Some people have suggested to darwin that his opinions are too uncompromising and his rhetoric far too bold and direct. They have asked him to consider changing his style. darwin did take the suggestions into consideration before rejecting them. darwin thinks the main reason there are so many abortions in this country is that most people who are in the so called anti abortion movement are against non violent birth control. Its not just that they impede the free flow of non violent birth control, although this in itself has a devastating impact, it's that every honest, decent, concerned citizen sees that the so called anti abortion movement is a fraud, that they just want to spread hateful rhetoric but don't just give a damn about preventing abortion. darwin was really taken by surprise when some of the people on this forum started to argue that it is just as important to protect a squirt of semen as it is to protect a well developed fetus. The same people were claiming that sperm has a soul, but that the egg does not. It is time for us to get real, and do what it takes to get the public care about preventing the butchery of fetuses.
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darwin Member |
posted 09-22-2000 11:22 PM
You may be right, darwin's mother was susceptible to the power of suggestion. Please, let's discuss Homeopathy on the science page . We need to get back to discussing how to prevent abortion. darwin is not mad at you, he just needs to bring this topic back into order: Why are you against nonviolent birth control to prevent abortion? Why are you protecting sperm and not fetuses? Why are you so against killing sperm? Do you think that every time our President ejaculates into the sink in the Oval Office, he is committing murder? [This message has been edited by darwin (edited 09-22-2000).]
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VdK Member |
posted 09-22-2000 10:43 PM
Darwins mother also could have seen a proper homoeopath, to stop her miscarrying. VdK has had plenty of opportunity to do just the same.
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darwin Member |
posted 09-22-2000 10:38 PM
darwin's little brother's life was saved by an illegal abortion. darwins' mother had a bad pregnancy in between darwin's and darwin's baby brother's, that was going to miscarry and damage her ability to have more kids. She had to go to Mexico City to get the abortion, this was in 1966. She still had a hard time carrying darwin's brother to term and had to be sewn shut. Without the illegal abortion darwin's baby brother would not have survived.
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darwin Member |
posted 09-22-2000 09:41 PM
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VdK Member |
posted 09-21-2000 10:34 PM
Bach was a homoeopath who left the sampradaya and concocted his own process. No provings have been done, no potentising. I tried them for a few years, and they have some action, but due to no testing (no provings) areto speculative in use. So I threw them out as they are, but plan a series of provings to establish their real effects and thus whatcan be cured with them.
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bhutabhavana New Member |
posted 09-21-2000 06:34 PM
quote: 'all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.' Never appreciated George. What about Bach Flower? Bonafide????
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VdK Member |
posted 09-21-2000 06:00 PM
even swine havea right to an education. remeber: 'all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.' wait tillhe finds out thatwe have potencies that go to cmm or a million! and that it does not stop there. [This message has been edited by VdK (edited 09-21-2000).]
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