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Author Topic:   How can we stop abortion?
darwin
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IP posted 09-09-2000 04:43 PM            
(BB came back and edited his post below, hours after this response by darwin)


"Get off your birth-control fetish."

You stole darwins word!

"Quit worshipping birth control.

darwin is trying to prevent abortion. You are just trying to stop sex.

"Birth control means keeping it in your pants."

Yes, always have some condoms in your pocket.

"A woman's choice begins in the bedroom."

They choose darwin.

"Don't want a baby, don't have sex."

But if you do, use nonviolent birth control.

'Simple for the simple, complex for the morons."

What is it for the dishonest?

"Proove it, mr darwin."

You are against nonviolent birth control to prevent abortion.

"Not about materialistic whining liberals such as you."

You are the one who is so against sex that you deny women birth control, then try to keep them from having sex, using babies as hostages.

"Proove it, mr birthcontrol fetish darwin."

You sure like to use my word.

"No. Is that what you think? Then you have confirmed the opinion that most of us have to you."

Please don't run away from the debate again.

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bhutabhavana
New Member
posted 09-09-2000 03:04 PM            
You are now in favor of nonviolent birth controll to prevent abortion?

Get off your birth-control fetish. Quit worshipping birth control. Birth control means keeping it in your pants. A woman's choice begins in the bedroom. Don't want a baby, don't have sex. Simple for the simple, complex for the morons.

lier

Proove it, mr darwin.

You just don't give a damn.

Not about materialistic whining liberals such as you.


Are you threatening to shoot yourself?

No. Is that what you think? Then you have confirmed the opinion that most of us have to you.


You make wild, bold accusations against someone you don't even know their first name. Your behavior begs the question: are you retarded? I realize thinking is hard work, that's why you don't perform.

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darwin
Member
posted 09-09-2000 02:18 PM            
"However, because we prolifers believe in non-violence, which therefor impels us to protect the babies, we must continue to urge for non-violent solutions, and use violence ONLY as a last resort where all other methods have failed."

You are now in favor of nonviolent birth controll to prevent abortion?

"Because all the shootings of abortionists that have occurred so far have happened only as a last resort, when all other methods failed,"

lier

"we prolifers can continue to rest easy, with a clear conscience."

You just don't give a damn.

"But just the same, eternal vigilance is required, so that the moral principle of only using violence as a last resort to stop mass murderers continues to be maintained."

Yeah, we found out that your a phoney.

"That way we will be practicing what we preach to the fullest extent possible."

Are you threatening to shoot yourself?


bhutabhavana
New Member
posted 09-09-2000 01:39 PM            

Justifiable Homicide

The use of violence against abortionists is having the effect of reducing
their numbers considerably, since medical students no longer choose abortion as a career
because of the risks to their own safety.

However, because we prolifers believe in non-violence, which therefor
impels us to protect the babies, we must continue to urge for non-violent solutions, and use
violence ONLY as a last resort where all other methods have failed.

In other words, abortionists should only be shot if they are working in
areas where the law allows them to continue their bloodthirsty murderous rampage. If they are
working in areas where the law does not allow them to do so, then the law must be brought to
bear on them, and they should only be shot if the law is ineffective in stopping
them.

Because all the shootings of abortionists that have occurred so far have
happened only as a last resort, when all other methods failed, we prolifers can continue to rest
easy, with a clear conscience. But just the same, eternal vigilance is required, so that the moral
principle of only using violence as a last resort to stop mass murderers continues to be
maintained. That way we will be practicing what we preach to the fullest extent
possible.


JOHN SALVI KI JAI!!!



RUN RUDOLPH RUN!!!!

darwin
Member
posted 09-09-2000 01:15 PM            
never mind

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darwin
Member
posted 09-09-2000 12:54 PM            
quote:
James Joyce said:
Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moocow coming down along the road and this moocow that was coming down along the road met a nicens little boy named baby tuckoo

His father told him that story: his father looked at him through a glass: he had a hairy face.

He was baby tuckoo. The moocow came down the road where Betty Byrne lived: she sold lemon platt.

O, the wild rose blossoms
On the little green place.

He sang that song. That was his song.

O, the green wothe botheth.

When you wet the bed first it is warm then it gets cold. His mother put on the oilsheet. That had the queer smell.

His mother had a nicer smell than his father. She played on the piano the sailor's hornpipe for him to dance. He danced:

Tralala lala,
Tralala tralaladdy,
Tralala lala,
Tralala lala.


Bal
Member
posted 09-09-2000 12:37 AM            
More, please.

darwin
Member
posted 09-09-2000 12:29 AM            
quote:
Originally posted by Maitreya:

One answer requires a 3 letter response, the other a 2 letter response. 2 hours? LOL


darwin sat behind his favorite log, drinking a 40 and watching the muskrat swim by. He had recently been having more dreams about being trapped under water. Before, he would just breath in the water like air. Those had been good dreams. He could still breath in the new dreams, but it was all in flooded buildings with long hallways and down the stairs to the Blue Line, all under water, to where he and the woman had first arranged to meet, away from the Gita class. He was supposed to swim back up the other stairs, but there were no stairs and the chain link fence meant that they would not let him win. When he woke up from that dream he analyzed all the elements; seven year old child in the dream, seven years since the abortion. He looked at the scars on his arm. Had that helped? As he sat behind the log, watching another muskrat swim by, he thought about a new dream he had just last night about a Jeffrey Dahmer being murdered in prison, and waking up to find out that John Salvi had been killed. He was not sure if he had met John. One afternoon, a few years after the abortion, before he started drinking, darwin saw a group of silent protesters across the street from an abortion clinic. He had spent the earlier part of the day reading 300 year old grave stones and trying to make himself cry. "and the tears of strangers water his grave" was his favorite. He saw a young man approach the group and walk up to the priest. They talked for a short time, the priest handed him something, and he left. darwin waited a few minutes, then went over to the group. The priest asked him how he was doing and where he lived. darwin said he was staying with friends. The priest gave him 5 dollars. Within the next year John Salvi attacked 2 abortion clinics, killing a worker in each clinic, including the one where darwins wife had an abortion. darwin and his wife are still together after 13 years. They now have 2 very young children. darwin no longer sits behind that log.

darwin
Member
posted 09-08-2000 04:51 PM            
darwin never got another dog again until he was 16. His parents weren't poor, there was a big back yard, and his younger brother had a dog and a cat, but darwin just had his cat and mice. His parents used to tell him, after his brother got a dog when darwin was 12, that he was too old have a dog, because he would be going to college in a few years. His brothers dog was the second dog their mother had brought home. The first dog was a huge Saint Bernard, a stray that his mothers friends had picked up. darwins father wasn't there to advise against it, as he had left darwins mother and was "out ***ing around around the town" as his mother would often say. A couple of hours after it got to the house, the dog attacked darwin, leaving him with an inch long piece of his upper lip hanging down over his chin. He went into the the bathroom and looked in the mirror. He then went to his mothers room, stepping over the blood and walking past his stunned brother. He told his mother "don't worry, it doesn't hurt.", when he went in, so she wouldn't get too upset. The lip took 18 stitches with no anesthetic, and the fang wound on the cheek took 5. After a few years, the lip looked fine, though slightly swollen. So when he was 16, darwin was very happy to be getting his own dog. After the dog died at the age of 2, darwin calculated that he would rather loose one of his arms, but not both arms or 1 leg. Again, it was the father who broke the news. darwin remembers that earlier in the day, he and his father were at the mall. The book "Pet Cemetery" had just come out that day, and there was a giant display in the front of the book store. darwin remembers that he and his father shared a nervous look. darwin had a dream in the one hour he managed to sleep that night. He walked his dog one last time, about halfway to the other world, and


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Maitreya
Member
posted 09-08-2000 02:14 PM            
Yeah darwin, this is a cruel place, too cruel to stay in.

We try to maintain a happy reality in the land of apparitions.

It hasn't worked for anyone, ever, but we still have a feeling that it might work for us.Madness.

YS MC

darwin
Member
posted 09-08-2000 01:57 PM            
quote:
Originally posted by Maitreya:
darwin,
please tell darwin that I can't understand his last questions and how they relate to my previous comments.
Thanks
YS [and darwins too]MC

darwin grew up in a typical american family. His mother was a Democratic party operative and his father was a college professor, he has a brother 3 years younger. Both of his parents were raised as Unitarians, although his mother was adopted. His fathers father is a Unitarian minister. His mothers natural father was shot down over France. darwins mothers adoptive mother had to watch her own mother burn to death in an oven explosion, and had to watch, as her brother died at home, of a bone infection. darwin remembers that when he was 6 years old, he and his family were visiting some relatives. His parents, aunt, and uncle were in the front room. It was raining and thundering. His uncle, also a Unitarian minister, who must have been drinking a bit, suddenly screamed "fak you god!". darwin and the other children were startled, never having heard of god talked about as though he actually existed, and worried that if he did exist, he might take offense. A few seconds passed, and the uncle said "We Unitarians can say that". A lightning bolt exploded right next to the house and all the lights went out. One evening when he was four years old, darwin came home from visiting a friend next door. His father told him that his puppy is dead, run over by his mother with the Volkswagen. His father brought him outside to view the remains. The father pulled back the edge of the tarp, and shined a flashlight. The puppy looked perfectly ok, exept that his head was a flat bloody pulp. When he asked his father if there was any magic that could fix it, he was thinking of climbing a very tall mountain in a very far away place.

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Maitreya
Member
posted 09-08-2000 01:53 PM            
darwin,

please tell darwin that I can't understand his last questions and how they relate to my previous comments.

Thanks
YS [and darwins too]MC

darwin
Member
posted 09-08-2000 01:45 PM            
Condoms and oral contraceptives act differently.Like the morning after pill, whic kills the newly conceived. Obviously,a condom is meant to prevent the pregnancy.So, IF successfull,there is no question of abortion.

Thank you. You agree with darwin?

I may have misunderstood your last post.I thought you were experiencing some remorse.

Saying that he is in favor of nonviolent birth control to prevent abortion means darwin is no longer showing remorse? A person who killed people by driving drunk should show remorse by telling people to drink and drive?

Condoms are now being handed out in schools and the abortions have doubled.

You are suggesting that they are handing out faulty condoms? Most insurance policies will not pay for contraceptives.

If one wants to save oneself from implication in these dark matters,self control remains the only sure thing.

Self control means being against nonviolent birth control to prevent abortion?

Maitreya
Member
posted 09-08-2000 10:34 AM            
Condoms and oral contraceptives act differently.Like the morning after pill, whic kills the newly conceived. Obviously,a condom is meant to prevent the pregnancy.So, IF successfull,there is no question of abortion.

I may have misunderstood your last post.I thought you were experiencing some remorse.

Condoms are now being handed out in schools and the abortions have doubled.

If one wants to save oneself from implication in these dark matters,self control remains the only sure thing.

YS MC

darwin
Member
posted 09-08-2000 07:52 AM            
How can anyone be against nonviolent birth control to prevent abortion? Are they against killing sperm? Do they think that every time our President ejaculates into the sink in the Oval Office, he is committing murder?

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