He was caught, and instead of being given a fair trial, was put through the worst farce, fake railroading trial darwin has ever seen. (darwin has watched over a hundred trials on TV) They wouldn't let him address the court or participate in his own defense. The brutal pigs tied him down and put tape over his mouth.

After they were done with the show trial, they set up a program of torture for him in Massachusetts' corrupt penal system. One day they found him dead, with his hands tied up and a plastic bag over his head.

The organization of this website, "National Alliance for the Mentally Ill", is an evil fraudulent organization that is really made up of "doctors" and mental hospitals. darwin has included this article because it shows some sympathy. For more about psychiatry (not Salvi) go to . (This link is not working at the time of darwin's posting but should be working later.)

An egg fertilized by one sperm can split and produce 2 or more embryos, this is called identical twins. Where do the extra souls come from?

But (here comes the but) a being is in existance even in the cell before it hits the wall, beings come from the rain, males carry the being for up to two years before such travel up the canal. This is why the advanced yogi is very controlled as far as expelling unnecessarily.

We see from stories that the cell has a being, mahabharata has stories of such beings carried in pots, etc. Those who have done this, though, may be considered gods, and not necessarily from the human being catagory. However, for practical purposes here, we can conclude that permission is granted to enter the human form when the attachment described above takes place.

Although I am not fanatically against birth control, there are forms of birth control that are no better than abortion for reasons described above, such as "morning after" pills, pills that force breakage of the biological attachment, etc. Spermicides may or may not do this.

It is not really that big of deal, it is only because the sex act is falsely advertised as such a thrill that it is so predominant in our society. People associate loving exchange as a biological event, but love has nothing to do with matter. Very old and very young people know this as a fact, for their loving exchange does not require permission from biology gods, or as my teacher humorously calls it "The god of Org". But we are bombarded with titillations, visions and ideas that make our senses control our mind, which makes us lose all intelligence. A proper, human way to act is that intelligence is the master of the mind and the mind has control of the senses.

Notice that I just said that this is a human way of life. Sense control is not a spiritual practice at all, it is what separates humans from animals only. This killing of offspring is so low, even the higher mammals do not do this, this is the activity of insects, worms, etc. (Dont bother giving proof that some mammals do this, I am sure they do, but this is not the point).

Anyway, to answer your question, another person, a human person, is in existance at the nanu second of conception, and after that event, the killing of that being is known as homicide.

Haribol, ys, mahaksadasa

"Why should a select group of people receive welfare?"

"Why not receive that (welfare) when you turn 18? Why shouldn't every United States citizen, not just the Catholic people, every United States citizen receive welfare benefits? And in fact, it should be more than that."

"What else would you think about, besides a welfare system, besides good jobs, making sure everyone has a certain wage?"

Like no abortions came out of them.

One has legal and righteous choice to prevent pregnancy, and though this may not be in line with the religious principle I adhere to (i.e. the version expressed by Bhagavad Gita), I support nevertheless.

When pregnancy occurs, however, from the connection of the cells that comprise procreation, another's choice comes into play. Viable? Not at all, but this is a lame and erroneous arguement, only the BF Skinner freaks can use this as justification, and if the policy of viability comes to it's natural extension, then the blind, the under 5 year old crowd, the elderly and infirm, the downes syndrome savants, all are fair game in the "viable or death" game.

Some say, "Why do pro-lifers object to RU486 (or whatever number the death pill is supplied with)", it is simple, procreative connection is thwarted, therefore, a person, non-viable, therefore worthy of Government Protection by all systems of democracy, is being denied human rights, which is abhorred and seriously protested by all who claim to be liberals.

So all who claim liberal status and support aboratoriums and kill-pills simultaneously, you live in contradiction of your very self, you embarass all liberals in history before you, you fail to protect the most needy and unfortunate victims of human rights abuses ever known to mankind.

Wonder why such a liberal like myself can support a staunch conservative like BB? Because he does not contradict himself, he is consistant with his philosophy. 10,000 pretender liberals who favor the greatest holocaust and mass slaughter of humanity in the history of the world, aint worth one true-blue conservative who will not allow such a horrible thing.

You phony liberals say you favor the mother, this aint about the mothers at all, it is about the industry forced down the throats of the so-called liberals of the west. To kill to prevent "inconveniance" is not a righteous kill, it is murder in the first degree. The doctor is also a first degree murderer, he is contracted to do the killing. The government is first degree murderer, it approves of such action.

later, get lost, you worthless phoney liberals, Dr. King rejects you even though you may use his name to support your cause. Susan B. Anthony rejects you, though you use her name. Abortion is just a way to subject women to evil, misogenist male domination, so dont try to spout your false doctrine of helping poor, unfortunate women around this truely bleeding heart liberal. My liberal nature is disgusted with your implication in this holocaust.

later, very mad mahax

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Originally posted by darwin:
darwin has nothing against BB's (Saffron Ranger) lifestyle choices. darwin just asks that BB not try to impose it on others. darwin wants to live free in a country that does not violate our rights. BB likes a strong government that violates peoples rights. It just seems to make him feel more comfortable, like a biker chick hanging onto the back of a Hell's Angle.
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Darwin, no matter what you think, I am not against any birth-control except babykilling. I do not wish condoms, gels, iuds, sponges, whatever outlawed. As a pro-life libertarian, I could care less what folks use in their bedrooms. I am only against killing babies in so called clinics and hospitals.

Personally, when I take a shower, I don't wear a poncho, and that is my attitude towards the trojan god.