The fact that substances listed in the Homeopathic Pharmacopeia are
legally recognized as "drugs" does not mean that either the law or the FDA recognizes them as effective.

Regardless whether the FDA 'recognises' them as effective, their effects can be noted by everyone who dares to experiment. All the proponents of quackery=homoeopathy haveso far refused to do the experiment - which they as 'scientists' should follow - and take a dose, justso they can experience whether this assertion is true or false.

If a single molecule of the duck's heart or liver were to survive the dilution, its concentration would be 1 in 100/200. This huge number,
which has 400 zeroes, is vastly greater than the estimated number of molecules in the universe (about one googol, which is a 1 followed by 100 zeroes).

Estimated numbers arealso quackery - nobody 'knows'the number of googols in the universe. childish argument. Moreover, it talks of a dilution, not a multiplication thus the argument is fallacious.

But as medical science and medical education advanced,
homeopathy declined sharply in America, where its schools either closed or converted to modern methods.

Not true, the first allopathis pharmacopeia, Merck's Manual was published in 1900 and contained all the remedies then developed by homoeopathy, WITH EXACTLY THE SAME INDICATIONS! (If you like, buy the 2000 edition and receive the facsimile copy of the 1900 one for free, so you can check against homoeopathisc materia medica whether I tell you a story. Also read 'Divied Leagcy,' byHarris Coulter PhD (Allopathic PhDfor that matter)about the true course of events: allopathic doctors were 50 years behind to form the AMA, with the help of the pharmaceutical industry, lobbying the government and threatening massive unemployment if the govt would not close the homoeopathic schools.

Actually, the laws of chemistry state that there is a limit to the dilution that can be made without losing the original substance altogether. This limit, called Avogadro's
number, corresponds to homeopathic potencies of 12C or 24X (1 part in 1024).

this only means thatafter Avogrado - who lived 150 years ago - they havenot been able to devise a machine thatcan measure beyond whatAvogrado noticed. However,in France 4 scientists have conducted experiments with NMR, as I havealready pointed out. Read 'Homoeopathic high dilutions' translated ino english.

ys VdK

Ps, this is justa sample of the fallacious claims made in thatarticle. If you want to really understand I'll send you a copy of the Organon of Medicine, so you can hearit from the horse's mouth, for free. Hahnemann was the mostthorough going medical scientist the world has ever seen. He was not so narrow-minded to accept everything he was taught blindly. He was aa genius, who remained humble. "I stumbled upon this by the graceof providence." his words. He went to school, paid for by his boss, since his father was a poor porcelain painter in Meissen Germany, who had sent him to work for a chemist. The chemistsaw he was intelligent and did not want to waste that. At 17 he entered university and came out at24, with a degree in medicine and chemistry, and twelve languages unsder his belt,among which Arabic, Russian Greek, and all the major European languages.

darwin said he was sorry for the "men" mistake. Please try to understand darwin's confusion, some people were posting statements against men.

Instead of undertsanding the spirit, you split useless hairs over the use of words.

"First of all, divide the tip of the hair into hundred parts. Then take one of the parts, one hundredth part, again divide into hundred parts." Prabhupada, from gHari's post. (don't get upset, darwin is joking)

Thus it is hardly worth the while to reply any further, for you will not go into the issue, but sidetrack yourself in the words being used. Example, the previous post about homoeopathic medicine, which is about testing to find the truth, like us homoeopaths test all the new medicines we bring in, first on ourselves, so we KNOW what we are talking about.

darwin would like to see scientific testing. Is there a web page you recomend?

you however immediately interpret that I want you to drink strychnine to eliminate you and win an argument.

darwin was joking.

So silly and so childish. No I want you to bloody well UNDERSTAND!! I also hateabortion

That's great!

sneezing and nasal discharge arethe result of many things besides pollen. Thus a book with the title you mention is quasi homoeopathy, sahajiya homoeopathy. Real homoeopathy treats the person, not the disease, since diseases are but symptoms of a general disorder in the personality. Thus a cold can be cured by a host of medicines. If the flu is rampant, I may treat 100 people and use as many different remedies for their cure, each to his own. A runny nose can thus be cured by allium cepa, but only if it runs like a tap.If it is runny in another way, allium will not cure it. If a flu is worse fropm cloudy and rainy weather and also worse atnight, Rhus toxicodendron is the cure. But if it started with sneezing an has those symptoms, I will hav to use Natrum muriaticum. So you see that those generalisations do not constitute real homoeopathy. Each case must be individualised. Alas, justas there aremany imitation vaisnavas, so there arealso pretend homoeopaths.

A 50M potency means that there is a division of 1 to 100 and that taken to the power of 50,000.

You mean 1 part Nux Vomica in 5,000,000 parts of solute? Is that by weight? Is the Nux Vomica dried before weighing? Does it matter if one plant is more potent than another? You still haven't told darwin how much of it he should drink.

So where would the strychnine be? not even detectable, but with NuclearMagnetic Resonance.

Don't you mean Mass Spectrometry?

You have 'read somewhere' that in 1800 homoeopaths created modern asthma medicine. This is utter nonsense, since homoeopathy does not treat 'asthma', but only treats people.

"..... it was a British homeopath C.H. Blackely who in 1871 first noted that seasonal sneezing and nasal discharge were the result of exposure to pollen. An American homeopath, Dr. Grant L. Selfridge, was one of three physicians to start the organization which became the present American Academy of Allergy." From .

Shows you know nothing of the subject and thus your judgemental denouncing is neither scientific (which you claim your background is) nor openminded, which you want us all to be and lack yourself.

You're right, the only chance you have of winning this argument is if darwin drinks strychnine.

No not 'drink strychnine' but taking a dose in so small a quantity that darwin finally humanises a bitand stops finding fault with everyone. A 50M potency means that there is a division of 1 to 100 and that taken to the power of 50,000. So where would the strychnine be? not even detectable, but with NuclearMagnetic Resonance.
You have 'read somewhere' that in 1800 homoeopaths created modern asthma medicine. This is utter nonsense, since homoeopathy does not treat 'asthma', but only treats people. Shows you know nothing of the subject and thus your judgemental denouncing is neither scientific (which you claim your background is) nor openminded, which you want us all to be and lack yourself.

darwin will not select anything "mundane"

He claims he doesn't read that other stuff anymore, so someone else will have to bribe Darwin's brother, Darwin, into reading the Vaishnava revealed scriptures.

This is part of Srimad Bhagavatam that you had darwin read;
"the fetus grows and remains in that abominable residence of stools and urine, which is the breeding place of all kinds of worms......Bitten again and again all over the body by the hungry worms in the abdomen itself........Like the worms born of the same filthy abdominal cavity, he cannot remain in one place."

darwin follows Bhaktivinoda Thakur's thoughts on these matters. Look at the site; . It's about a book on Bhaktivinoda Thakur.