Image of John Bull ship, on Marris web site,
John Bull arrived 22 Jan 1940, ship, 705 tons, Osmond master, from London September 22 1839. Cargo, sundries and passengers. Have 5 fiche page Images 29-37,,
Port Phillip Herald, Fri 24 Jan 1840, Page 2
Alexr Mckenzie Cheyne the Surgeon Superintendent. In page 26, "Perilous Journeys to the New Land" by Michael Cannon, he is named 'Dr M C Rayne'.
Two adults and two chn died during passage to Port Phillip
Mr George Blackmore and
Messrs Claud Faerie,
Edmund T Mr Higgins,
Mr and Mrs William Kerr, with William, Robert, Charles, Ann and Margaret Kerr,
Thomas Rutherford and
Mr and Mrs William Henry Buckley/Backley with George 10, Mary Ann 8, John 6, William 3 and Fanny Backley,
Mr and Mrs Alexander Dennis and infant,
John Mr Dennis,
William Mr Dennis,
George Mr Penn,
Mr Thomas Robinson senior 48, and Thomas Junior Robinson aged 4
Steerage 245 bounty immigrants (43 families, 45 single men, 56 single women, bounty 3441 pounds (18 pounds per adult, no payments for children, except 3 Morris boys 30 pounds, 3 Woods boys 15+10+5, 25 children not paid for).
From "Shipping Arrivals and Departures Victorian Ports 1798-1845" (pub 1984) Martin A Syme, 'John Bull' 705 tons, Captain Ormond, sailed from London September 22, Plymouth September 29 1939 arrived at Melbourne on 21 January 1840 with 233 emigrants, 20 cabin, merchandise. No further record of the "John Bull" ever returning to Melbourne.
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The Bounty names
"The Somerset Years", by Florence Chuk, page 41 begins a chapter on the John Bull, with notes on Eliza May, from Bath, the only emigrant from Somerset.
The voyage was swift and uneventful, taking only 105 days from Plymouth.
Florence Chuk comments that the John Bull was the first ship to be privately chartered to bring out Bounty Immigrants, the previous vessels being Government vessels managed by their appointed Royal Navy Surgeon Superintendent and not expected to carry cargo and private passengers as well as the Bounty people.
Consequently the ship on arrival did not have use of Government barracks to house the arriving people before they were selected by employers. Instead, the employers had to row out to the moored vessel to interview them.
Her arrival caused excitement, she was the largest vessel to have yet entered the Heads of Port Phillip. She carried 233 emigrants and 20 cabin passengers, as well as a cargo of beef, pork, flour, books, nails and tools.
Even the news carried by the John Bull was pleasing. England was alive with rumours of the prospective marriage of their Queen, and rejoicing that there was mutual affection between the young people.
In page 24-6, "Perilous Journeys to the New Land" by Michael Cannon he remarks that the voyage took 103 days, because the square-rigger could not sail 'close to the wind' but had to zigzag forward - called 'beating against the wind'. Also the 'great circle' route was not yet understood. Masters aimed at the small mountainous island of Tristan da Cunha in the southern Atlantic at 37.6 degrees south, enabling them to fix their position accurately and sail due east to Melbourne on almost exactly the same latitude.
Dr C Rayne (means Cheyne) assigned four men and four women every day to clean out and fumigate their areas. Even so, typhus and scarlatina (scarlet fever) broke out, killing two adults and three children. A reasonable result.
Note: 705 tons was a large ship for the day and the vessel is described as a "ship" not a "bark" or "brig". This arrival was only 4 years after the settlement of Port Phillip (Melbourne) by Batman, Evans and Fawkner. The largest vessels were a 1,000 tonnes (rare) and the average about 5-600 tonnes; the journey taking about 3-4 months. Arrival in the winter would have been most uncomfortable.
John Barnaby Morris/Marris was born 30 January 1804 in Kirton in Lindsey / Lincolnshire Co., England, and died 30 May 1874 in St Kilda, Australia. He married Susanna Langton Preston on 20 September 1825 in St Nicholas Anglican Church / Lincolnshire Co., England.
Extract from family Bible believed owned by Bill and Adair Marris in New Zealand
"...Immigrated with 6 children from Shearwood in the parish of Basford near Nottingham to Australia Felix in Marshals Emergrant ship the "John Bull" commanded by Captain Orman. Left Graves End September 28, 1839 and anchored in Hobson's Bay, Melbourne, 23 January, 1840..."
Dennis Alexander was thoroughly trained in farm work. In December 1837 he married Emma Williams, sister of E. P. Tregurtha. Finally heeding his brother-in-law's reports, Dennis sailed in the John Bull with his wife and daughter, his brothers John and William and four servants; they arrived at Port Phillip in January 1840.
John Marris, Susanna and 6 chn
John Hooton emigrated to Australia with his wife Eliza and son Henry. John was 29 years old and from Western Nottingham. He was Protestant and could both read and write. went on to have 8 chn
Mary Ann Good/e arrived in Port Phillip, Melbourne, on the "John Bull" on 21 January, 1840. The Shipping records say that she was born in Cork, Ireland, was 17 years of age and was a Nurse Maid. Little is known of her days in Ireland or the names of her parents. In 1840, she married William John Wilson and slowly they moved towards New South Wales.
Mary Sheehan was born in Newmarket, County Cork, Ireland 1819. She married Edward LYONS in Victoria, Australia. Edward was born in Bristol, England 1808. Edward died 1871 at 63 years of age. (See Edward LYONS for the continuation of this line.)
2 i. Eliza SHEEHAN was born in Ireland. Eliza immigrated, 21 January 1840. Destination: Australia.
Mary immigrated, 21 January 1840. Destination: Australia. Mary Sheehan arrived at Port Phillip on the "John Bull on the 21 January 1820 with her sister Eliza. They were dairymaids from Newmarket, County Cork, Ireland. Neither could read or write. Mary and Elizabeth came as bounty immigrants, the bounty paid to them was 18 pounds each. (Source J. Tolman THE STANGER FAMILY 1769 - 1968)
Robert Forsyth was born on 19 April 1807 at Sparkhall, Torphichen, West Lothian, Scotland.2,3 He married Elizabeth Hogg on 30 September 1835 at Cambuslang, Lanark, Scotland.1,4,3 He immigrated on 21 January 1840 to Port Phillip, Victoria, Australia, with Elizabeth Hogg, James Forsyth and Janette Forsyth aboard the aboard the John Bull.5 He was a squattor in 1878 at Mimamaluke Station, Mansfield District, Victoria, Australia.1 He died on 29 March 1890 at Mimamaluke Station, Mansfield District, Victoria, Australia, at age 82.6,7,3 He was Presbyterian. 10 chn
Ormond (Ormond Castle in the Highlands, now a ruin but once the home of the Black Douglases many
centuries ago). According to O'Callaghan (1918) this suburb was named for Captain Francis Ormond,
commander of the immigrant ship 'John Bull' which arrived in Melbourne in 1840 but more recent sources
suggest his son, Francis Ormond, the Victorian philanthropist. On the other hand, Point Ormond, a
promontory on Port Phillip Bay, was definitely named after Captain Ormond.